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The Exorcists of IF

Please take a look at this proposal and leave a comment. Stonecreek 16:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Due to danger of the proposal getting lost to memory and the response I changed the item to SHORTFICTION. Stonecreek 05:07, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Space Mail Vol II

Found a signature on the artwork for [this]. Running vertically along the right side of the smaller tower, left side background. Added to the record with note. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Cool!SFJuggler 21:01, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Richard Matheson: He Is Legend

Hi. Could you check the spelling of Rathbun's first name on the above. You have it as Martk Rathbun. There is a Mark Rathbun who looks like is the same person. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 22:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's "Mark" and I'll submit a correction. Thanks.SFJuggler 22:16, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

"A Grossery of Limericks", by Asimov and Cialdi

Based on Amazon's "Look Inside", I added some content items to your verified collection of limericks. (To prevent the cleanup reports from making various complaints, I needed to refer to each of the collections of limericks as a single "Poem".) Chavey 21:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Whoever entered the collection Limericks listed the two forewords in your publication as "Poems", but I assumed that they were essays. Could you please check and see what they are? I'd like to combine those records, but can't do it without determining that type. Thanks, Chavey 21:47, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
They are essays although each one contains a poem at the end of it. I'll leave it up to you to determine if the included poems rate separate handling.SFJuggler 18:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Not unless they're actually listed. For example, there are lots of poems/songs embedded in "The Lord of the Rings", but we don't list them separately. Chavey 03:06, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Kate Daniels or Kate Daniel?

Can you confirm the credit for the essays on pages 45 and 46 of this record? A Google scan of the original edition credits Kate Daniel. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 20:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Should be "Daniel" without the final s.SFJuggler 15:10, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. Please update the record when you have time. Mhhutchins 17:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation of INTERIORART records

The two pieces by George M. Harris in this record should have been disambiguated by following the ISFDB standard: The first piece isn't disambiguated ever. The second piece, if it has an identical title and artist credit, is disambiguated by adding "[2]". This continues for each additional identically titled and credited work. Mhhutchins 18:51, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Noted. I'll submit changes.SFJuggler 23:12, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


Other than the page count (which is immaterial in a non-verified record), how is the record you want to add to this title different from the one already in the database? Mhhutchins 15:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, I see now that it has a different ISBN. I'll accept it, but will change the publisher to "Del Rey / Ballantine", since that was the ISFDB designation of the publisher's name in 2000. (Unless your title page doesn't give Ballantine as the publisher?) Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:30, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

The ISBN...beat me to it!SFJuggler 15:31, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
What is on the two unnumbered pages which you've given in the page count field? Mhhutchins 15:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I'll add that in when I upload the cover.SFJuggler 15:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Diesel - Family name and legal name

I have made the following changes to the Diesel record:

  1. As per Help:Screen:AuthorData, The format of the legal name should be "Lastname, Firstname Middlenames", so in this case it's "LaForce, David S." rather than "David S. LaForce"
  2. As per the same page, the Family Name field should contain the only family name (surname) of the canonical name, so in this case it's "Diesel" rather than "LaForce"

Ahasuerus 01:47, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.SFJuggler 03:52, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Proposed variant for The Final Fear

Sorry, but what you had in mind wouldn't work, so I had to reject your varianting: You tried to variant for a publication, but it's only possible to variant titles (you would have created a new title with information for a specific publication in its notes). Please create a new publication (and automatically with it a new title) and then do the varianting. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 04:29, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay.SFJuggler 04:32, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Laurance Janifer pseudonym of Laurence M. Janifer

When you create a variant title based on a change of author you must follow up by making the author of the variant into a pseudonym of the canonical author. You do not have to wait for the first submission to be moderated. Mhhutchins 07:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Looks like it's already been done.SFJuggler 15:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
I did it. The purpose of my posting was to make you aware so that you'd do it without having to be asked. It's better to have every editor aware of the database's structure rather than the few moderators. Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:04, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.SFJuggler 03:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Random Abstract Memory

Hi, this publication still is catalogued with an unknown binding, though you are its primary verifier? Stonecreek 05:13, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

It was originally entered as paperback. Don't know what happened. I submitted a change.SFJuggler 05:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Well, it's widely unknown that Gremlins are at work here, especially at night; I have encountered them (or rather their work) many times. Stonecreek 05:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
It's fine if they work, just don't feed them~;)SFJuggler 05:35, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Some Metallic Robets

Would you mind double checking the essay on page 57 of this pub? Is it really Some Metallic Robets (with an 'e') instead of "Robots" as in the other versions? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:07, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

No, it's "Robots" and not the typo. Fix submitted. Thanks.SFJuggler 00:07, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

The Knight-Errant, the Dragon and the Maiden

Your verified Gahan Wilson's Cracked Cosmos contains The Knight-Errant, the Dragon and the Maiden. Previous versions of this story are The Knight-Errant, The Dragon, and The Maiden (with a comma after dragon). Would you mind double checking your title and either variant (if missing) or merge (if not missing) as appropriate? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:46, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I just put the box back in the stacks. I'll try to get it back and check.SFJuggler 15:30, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Ace Fantasy

Hello, I've put your submission on hold regarding your change of publisher from "Ace Books" to "Ace Fantasy". There are, at this time, only 3 books by the latter publisher here (note that one of them has even clearly "Ace SF" on cover) so it seems to me that the publisher should stay as "Ace Books" (and that the others should be regularized). What are the thoughts of the PVs ? Hauck 10:12, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree. If the change was put through I would be changing the other two books in the series to "Ace Fantasy" as they are similarly marked. It would be easier and cleaner just to leave it as-is.SFJuggler 14:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
I've changed the whole lot. Thanks. Hauck 15:21, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome.SFJuggler

Shirley's Cutter series

You should variant each of the title records on the summary page for John Cutter to John Shirley. Making a pseudonym and creating a variant are two different functions. Doing one doesn't automatically do the other. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:17, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Submitted test. If it's correct I'll do the rest.SFJuggler 05:10, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Looks good. Submission accepted. Mhhutchins 05:15, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I'll do the rest, then.SFJuggler 05:24, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars Episode I: Who's Who

There was already a record for what appears to be the same publication for this title. Please reconcile the differences and delete one of the pub records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Reconciliation submitted.SFJuggler 00:34, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Star Wreck screenplay

I changed the type of this publication from NOVEL to CHAPBOOK, and added a SHORTFICTION content record for the screenplay. I also removed the series number. You'd given it "1" and there's already a title with that number in the series. You also mention that you planned on creating a variant. Don't. A screenplay shouldn't be varianted to a novel. Variants should only be made if the works are basically the same work, only with a change in title or author credit. Mhhutchins 01:22, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Noted.SFJuggler 01:23, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Delta Quadrant

Can you confirm the author credit of this publication? According to most sources, including the two you link in the Note field, he is credited as "David A. McIntee". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:50, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Credited to "David McIntee" on the cover and "David A. McIntee" on the title and copyright pages. I'll make the change when I submit the cover.SFJuggler 23:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, when you get a chance could you archive all but the most recent messages on this page? The server is so slow today that it took some time for it to load this page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:21, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
You didn't change the author credit of the title record. Non-matching credits creates an error report. I've done it for you. Mhhutchins 01:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Distracted by appliance delivery and installation.SFJuggler 04:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Paul Gamarello or Camarello?

Can you confirm the cover art credit for this publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Have you had a chance to look at this publication? Mhhutchins 17:19, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see this message. Correction submitted.SFJuggler 05:05, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

The End and the Beginning

Can you confirm the publisher credit given in this record? Both of the sources you cite in the Note field give the publisher as "HarperEntertainment". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:19, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find the box that it's in. I'll update the entry if I can find it. My records (and most of the booksellers on ABE) list it as HarperPaperbacks.SFJuggler 15:49, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Yet, the two sources to which you link in the record's Note field do not. Hmmm. Guess who I think is more reliable, the Library of Congress and WorldCat or a group of dealers who piggyback off the bad data supplied to them by Amazon? I'll leave the record be until you're able to find your copy, or you can use your own initiative to correct it, or not. Mhhutchins 19:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm going to leave it as-is until the weekend (when I hope to have time to check on it). I can do any correcting/updating then.SFJuggler 04:09, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
It's been a few months. Have you had a chance to check the publisher credit yet? Mhhutchins 03:13, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

George Locke - Science Fiction FIrst Editions

I corrected the title typo for this book from 'flrst' to 'first' --Mavmaramis 17:54, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.SFJuggler 06:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Suzy McKee Charnas/Joan Vinge/Octavia Butler

Re this publication: can you confirm the source of the publication date? Most sources give 1986 as the year of publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, does the title page credit "Marleen Barr" or "Marleen S. Barr"? How is she credited on the title page of the essay on Charnas? Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [1].Don Erikson 19:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.SFJuggler 04:31, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Who's Hugh ?

Re this book. I also have the hardback copy and the entry makes reference to interior art. Can't find any interior art in my copy whatsoever. Note that my copy was originally one of the unnumbered/unsigned versions. I sent it to Roger Robinson who inscribed it for me and sent it back. --Mavmaramis 20:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't have access to my copy at the moment. I'll have to dig it out and look. I don't remember it being much of an illustration, though.SFJuggler 04:28, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Having had a second thought I wonder if it refers to the illustration on the title page. The phrase "interior art" is perhaps somewhat misleading in this case. Not that I'm going to make a big issue out of it at the end of the day so take your time. Thanks. --Mavmaramis 17:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
That's the only illustration I remember. Nothing in the body of the book.SFJuggler 05:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Lydia Rozier or Rosier

Can you confirm the cover art credit for this publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:37, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Correction submitted (with new notes).SFJuggler 04:22, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Donaldson's Daughter of Regals

I've expanded the notes of Stephen R. Donaldson's Daughter of Regals, indicating a couple of secondary sources. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:58, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.SFJuggler 16:45, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Jerome Podwill cover credit

I changed the source of the cover art credit of this publication. Tumblr is usually not a very reliable source, and the links may not be stable. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:35, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Works for me. Thanks.SFJuggler 15:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

P. S. Nim

Hello, can you give the source of your intended pseudonymistic relationship? Thanks. Hauck 16:44, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Catalog of Copyright office of the Library of Congress, entry #TX0000160263.SFJuggler 16:50, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Ten Thousand Light Years from Home

Just wanted to add my 2p worth on the cover art of this book. The ship on the right is more in the style of Tony Roberts - he tends to do ships with those 'flecks' and althougn I can see why you might think Foss due to the hull patterning, Roberts tended to use browns, oranges and blacks for his ships - take a quick skim through this list and you get the idea. I'm append his name to the note only. --Mavmaramis 19:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'm leaning that way now. I had never noticed Roberts before. It would still be nice to know for certain, though.SFJuggler 02:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree. It'd extremely irritating. I think the thing with any of these artists is to get your eye in to their style although admitedly it'n not foolproof. --Mavmaramis 07:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

The Queen of Springtime by Silverberg

I've been exchanging emails with Nicholas Rodgers and he admits that he did the Gollancz cover for At Winters End by Silverberg but that The Queen of Springtime isn't one of his, even though he is credited on the jacket flap.

The Queen of Springtime

Never mind. His name is painted on the cover as "NICK". His memory must be failing!


It looks like there's a typo page number for the 'Author's Afterword' in your verified Markwood 20:15, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Fix submitted. Thanks. SFJuggler 05:06, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


Regarding, I 2nd verified and up-loaded a new scan that shows the jacket spine. Markwood 04:44, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Cool.SFJuggler 05:07, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Cover artist for The Road to Science Fiction #4.

I'm suggesting that we change the cover artist of this record from "Rick Courtney" to "Richard Courtney" per this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Change submitted.SFJuggler 04:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Asimov's The Complete Robot

There's a problem with the publication date given in this record. If this is the first trade edition, with a printing date of February 1982, it's hard to believe that it sat in the warehouse for two years before copies were released. Also, the book club edition appeared in July 1982. Please confirm the secondary source for the publication date. (Amazon says it was published in March 1982.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 15:41, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Typo. Fix submitted.SFJuggler 04:34, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

"Familyname" field

This field is used to sort authors in the database author directory. It should be the last name of the author's canonical name. In the case of C. Djang, it should be "Djang" and not "Zhang" which is the transliterated form of the author's last name. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:07, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Turns out that the book was first published with the full name, so I made Chu Djang into the canonical name. So I transferred all of the author data over to that name. Mhhutchins 02:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Far Eastern Government and Politics: China and Japan

By making the second edition into a variant of the first, an error is created because of the different author credit. So I unvarianted it to have its own title record. Mhhutchins 02:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Research has shown that the record for the first edition was miscredited. According to OCLC, it should be credited to Linebarger, Djang, and Burks. I'll make the correct and return the variant. Mhhutchins 02:16, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I accepted the submission, but what was your source that the first edition was credited to "C. Djang"? According to the OCLC record it was credited to "Djang Chu". Mhhutchins 02:30, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Even your source (LCCN) gives the author as "Djang Chu". Mhhutchins 02:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Both editions are credited the same in the Library of Congress listings but I typoed. I'm thinking that the second edition will have to be changed, also. I've checked my copy and it's credited to "Paul M. A. Linebarger, C. Djang and Ardath Burks" on the cover but to "Paul M. A. Linebarger, Djang Chu and Ardath W. Burks" on the title page. I'll submit the change for both editions.SFJuggler 02:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Dan and Don Weaks

Can you check the two records (here and here) you've verified for these artists and determine if the credit is correct, and if we need to pseudonym and variant the two credits? Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:27, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Have to dig these up again to check. I'm pretty sure I typoed on one of them.SFJuggler 05:30, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Just checking in on this subject, since it's been a few months. Have you had a chance to look up these credits? Mhhutchins|talk 01:56, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Hot Sleep

Can you check the titlepage of this edition for me? My paperback has 'Hot Sleep: The Worthing Chronicle' on the titlepage, and I'm trying to determine what the canonical title should be. Thanks, --Willem 20:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

This also has the subtitle. 'Hot Sleep: The Worthing Chronicle' should be the canonical title. Good catch.SFJuggler 05:23, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. I corrected the publication title. Because of this discussion I didn't change the title record though. --Willem 09:26, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

With the Knight Male

Your verified Space Suits contains With the Knight Male which you have dated as 2000 and listed as a shortstory. The 2000 original story is given as a novelette (which matches Locus' categorization). If your version doesn't appear to be abridged, then these two should be merged as a novelette. If it has been abridged, then a note should be added to the title record and the date changed to match your publication. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:12, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Unabridged as far as I know. I have not actually read it or any variation of it yet so I cannot definitely say.SFJuggler 05:25, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Merged. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:01, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Fredric Brown mystery collections

Now that we have the ability to mark SHORTFICTION as non-genre, you can update those Fredric Brown collections which contain mystery stories, by adding contents for each of the stories. Mhhutchins|talk 19:40, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

You fiend~ ;)SFJuggler 21:07, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Default display of non-English translations

When you get a chance, could you please review this discussion? The proposal basically boils down to changing the behavior of the Summary Bibliography when the viewing user is not logged in. Currently only English translations are displayed for unauthenticated users. The proposal would change it to displaying all translations. The downside is that the Summary page could get longer and harder to navigate.

I am trying to get a sense of how widespread the support for this change is. TIA! Ahasuerus 01:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

"Introduction" to Jurassic Park

Re this record and this one: Please join this discussion when you get a chance. It's my judgement that a fictional introduction is part of the novel, and as such should not have a separate content record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

My $0.02 is in the discussion.SFJuggler 05:29, 6 October 2015 (UTC)


Re this title: Series data is not usually given in the title field of the title record. According to the OCLC record for the paperback, this subtitle isn't used. Also, this synopsis is way too long. Please try to synopsize the synopsis. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 05:14, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I changed the synopsis to just the tagline. I think that's enough. As for the (sub)title, it appears that way on the title page, the LOC listing and the copyright page. If you want to remove the subtitle I won't quibble about it.SFJuggler 05:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm not saying you should remove it from your verified publication record. I'm talking about the title field of the title record (the canonical title). You had added it, and the subtitle doesn't appear on all publications of the title, which means it should be removed. I'll do it. Mhhutchins|talk 07:28, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I have to take that back. A Google Books scan shows it also appears on the title page of the paperback edition, so OCLC was wrong. Mhhutchins|talk 07:33, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Nobuddys purfekt. ;)SFJuggler 05:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Prayers to Broken Stones interior art

I've added interior art records to the unsigned first edition of Dan Simmons's Prayers to Broken Stones that you might wish to incorporate in your verified record for the signed edition. Note that the art appears on unnumbered pages within each story, so using the bar method of listing the contents seems most appropriate: Let me know if you need help with this, alternatively I'll be happy to do it for you. Cheers. PeteYoung 19:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Changes submitted. I don't think I screwed it up too bad. ;). Didn't know about the bar method.SFJuggler 17:25, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Uplaoding images

Hello, I saw that just re-uploaded this image just after I uploaded it. What are your motives for such an action? Hauck 17:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

I had just scanned mine and thought it was a little sharper. No ulterior motive. Didn't realize you had just put it up. My apologies.SFJuggler 17:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
No problem, it's just that, in order to save space, "supplemental" images must be manually deleted by moderators. Hauck 17:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Didn't know that. I do, now.SFJuggler 01:36, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

The Everything Box

Concerning this publication record: The ISFDB policy about creating records for forthcoming publications is to stay within a three-month time frame. There are so many factors in the publishing industry that could change any of the data you've given here. I will change the publication date to 9999 which is displayed as "forthcoming", and places the publication onto a clean-up script which I monitor. As the scheduled date approaches, I will check the record periodically to see if any of the data has changed. Please keep this in mind for future reference. Mhhutchins|talk 18:56, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I'll keep it in mind. I just got the proof so thought I'd enter the information I had.SFJuggler 01:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Galaxy #8

Hello, Zlogorek added publisher credit for your verified here. Hauck 10:25, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!SFJuggler 19:00, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Matheson's I Am Legend

I expanded the notes for Richard Matheson's I Am Legend, adding the catalog numbers for Reginald and Bleiler. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:11, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!SFJuggler 19:01, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Artist credit on Pangborn's West of the Sun

As the credit on the dustjacket of our verified West of the Sun is for "Dick Powers", it should really appear that way in the publication record. Powers already has that pseudonym in the database. Thanks. PeteYoung 12:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Change submitted.SFJuggler 17:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

The End and the Beginning redux

Have you had a chance to check on the publisher credit given in this publication? (First brought to your attention in April here.) It's still the only verified record with that publishing credit, and both LCCN and OCLC give the publisher as HarperEntertainment. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 18:18, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Still have not re-located the box this is in. If you want to change it to HarperEntertainment until I can confirm it, that's fine.SFJuggler 17:39, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

The Legend of Broken

Hello, I've put your submission to update this pub because your long entered list of artists will create three new authors (of which two are corporations). I suppose that each one has contributed a minute part of the cover. Are you sure it's worth the trouble? (In such case, I tend to give such data in the notes and left the cover globally uncredited). Thanks for your input. Hauck 07:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Not worth it, I guess. If you can kill the artist info and accept the rest I'll change the entry and put the complete info in the notes.SFJuggler 02:11, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Done. Hauck 09:30, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.SFJuggler 22:53, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Price's Strange Gateways

I've expanded the notes to our mutually verified record for E. Hoffmann Price's Strange Gateways, adding record numbers for secondary sources. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:01, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Also his Far Lands, Other Days. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Actually it looks like I misread your Worldcat verification as a primary. Please ignore the second comment. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:10, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
1. Thanks...and 2. Ignoring.;)SFJuggler 02:33, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [2].Don Erikson 06:42, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!SFJuggler 16:37, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos

Would you mind double checking these possible typos?

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Fixes submitted. Thanks for the catches. Fat fingers only.SFJuggler 19:22, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

The Gods Themselves

Regarding, my copy's dust jacket has a price of $5.95, and 3 different ABE booksellers confirm the $5.95 price. However the isfdb record has $6.95. Are you OK with me correcting the price to $5.95? Thanks. Markwood 03:32, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

My copy has $5.95 also. I guess I overlooked that since it was already entered when I confirmed it. Go ahead and change it. Thanks.SFJuggler 04:19, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

runes of the earth

hi. I was going to enhance the contents of the book a bit, if you're ok with it. thanks. gzuckier 07:42, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Go for it!SFJuggler 03:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thanks gzuckier 04:49, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


Re this publication: "bp" means the content appears on an unnumbered page that precedes pagination, although generally you can derive the page number and enter it in brackets. So by itself it shouldn't be in brackets. Only regular numbers go in brackets, i.e. an unnumbered page which appears in a range of unnumbered pages. To determine what number goes in those brackets, start with the first unnumbered page and go forward until you've reached the content for which you've created a record. Then you should add that range of numbers to the page count field. For example, the frontispiece appears on the fifth unnumbered page, then "[5]" should go in the page field of the content, and the page count field would be "[5]+264". Or you can enter "bp" in the content field and do nothing else. Mhhutchins|talk 01:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

I knew that! ;) Brain fart. I'll fix it.SFJuggler 01:27, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

"uncredited" cover art

Hello, it seems that "uncredited" is not allowed for COVERART (or so seems to be the last "official" position). I've deleted the corresponding item for Gridlinked. Hauck 17:07, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Noted!SFJuggler 17:17, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [3].Don Erikson 06:13, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.SFJuggler 17:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Something in My Eye

I'd like to add the content to Something in My Eye by Michael Whelan if you have no objections. Bob 03:50, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

None. Go for it!SFJuggler 20:38, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The Planet of the Apes Chronicles

Re this publication: Can you confirm that there are three different interviews with Paul Dehn, and not just a continuation of a single interview, and that one of the interviews is conducted by "Peter Nichols" unlike the other two which are credited to "Peter Nicolson". Also, since most of the interviews in this publication are not of persons who are in the spec-fic field, they should have been entered as ESSAY instead of INTERVIEW. (You see that it creates odd "author" summary pages like this, this, and this.) I personally don't believe this publication qualifies for eligibility, since it's almost entirely about the film and not the novel. But I'm not going to push that point. Mhhutchins|talk 18:32, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Cannot confirm this right at the moment as the book has been cycled back into storage. It might be easier to actually remove the book from the database since it's questionable.SFJuggler 17:38, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Wells' Food of the Gods

I was correcting the title of a printing of Wells' The Food of the Gods and How It Came to Earth which we mistakenly had as simply "The Food of the Gods" and I noticed that we had several publication records with the longer title in the publication records, but with the shorter title in the associated title record. I fixed the ones that weren't verified which leaves only this publication, which you have verified, with a mismatched title. I didn't want to move it to the correct title record without your assent. Let me know if you're OK with my moving it. Of course, you can move it yourself if you'd prefer. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:13, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

I happened to run across this myself and went ahead and changed it. Only saw this note when I came here to let SFJuggler know. This is a straightforward case. Container titles are generally supposed to match publication titles. Since the publication title is The Food of the Gods and How It Came to Earth, then that should be the container title and not a variant of that title. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Murder on the Yellow Brick Road

A check for potentially invalid data spotted the value "1978-02-00" in the page count field for Murder on the Yellow Brick Road which you verified on 2013-03-03. I've changed the page count to 197 based on WorldCat plus Amazon all of which report 197 and will add a publication note about this too. --Marc Kupper|talk 19:51, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Yep, 197 is correct. I'll submit a fix. Thanks.SFJuggler 04:57, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

They're Here ...: Invasion of the Body Snatchers

Added the Canadian cover price to your verified They're Here ...: Invasion of the Body Snatchers: A Tribute. PeteYoung 18:41, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!SFJuggler 15:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Eric Williams (artist)

Hello, exploiting a cleanup report, I took the liberty to change the artist for the cover and interior art of this pub from Eric Williams (a pseudonym of the writer Eric C. Williams) to Eric Williams (artist). Do you agree? Hauck 06:10, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely!SFJuggler 20:23, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Time's Rub

Just added Time's Rub to a Cheap Street Solstice Card publisher series and added a Worldcat link. Albinoflea 23:10, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Never thought to check Worldcat for something like that.SFJuggler 02:27, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

"2001: A Space Odyssey", cover art

In your verified edition of this book is a note, presumably from you, saying "Cover art not credited. Verified from "Art of Robert McCall." Presumably, that applies to the front cover (only?). But the back cover on this edition is what's used as the front cover on 13 other publications of this work, for which we currently have no artist identified. Do you know if that back cover is also by Robert McCall? Thanks, Chavey 05:38, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

The back cover is a still of David Bowman (actor Keir Dullea) from the MGM publicity department. I'm not sure how you want to credit that.SFJuggler 04:53, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Escape from Kathmandu / Two Views of a Cave Painting & The Idol's Eye

Since the title of this places the Robinson work first (arbitrarily) I've set the page numbering to list the Robinson first, so it is now 75+[4]+16+22 rather than [4]+16+22+75. I've also used the | based method for placing the individual items in order despite the weird page numbering. Albinoflea 23:44, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Okay!SFJuggler 06:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Introduction to Unpublished Stories in Charles Beaumont: Selected Stories

I have a later edition of this pub. In my copy this title is uncredited though written by likely the editor, and there is an introduction to the following story written by Chad Oliver. I suspect that the original entry of the publication may be in error. Can you check? TAWeiss 14:30, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

It's entirely possible that you're correct. I do not have immediate access to the volume to check and I seem to recall that the original entry was duplicated from the limited edition entry. If you would like to make the change based on your information I'm comfortable with that.SFJuggler 04:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Changes to Living wtih Aliens

Hello, please remember that you should notify all PVs (and not only the PV1 whose presence here is quite erratic), especially as I uploaded the cover. Consider me notified. Hauck 07:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Will try to remember to notify everyone in the future.SFJuggler 14:41, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Credo for Fantasy Writers by Robert Bloch

Hi. In your verified The Eighth Stage of Fandom: Selections From 25 Years of Fan Writing on p.22 for the Robert Bloch "Credo for Fantasy Writers", I've entered an identically titled work in The Pulpster #15. I was wondering if the two are the same and should be merged. It's 2 pages long and starts with "The following oath is recommended to be administered to all professional writers of weird or science fiction by the editor who purchases their first story. It goes on to list 34 humorous bits of advice, all numbered. Could you check and see if they are the same? Thanks. Doug / Vornoff 02:51, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll put it on the list of things to look for. I'm out of town for a week starting on the 13th and I'll have to try to dig out the book after I get back. I strongly suspect it is the same article, or a close variation, though since it would not be a new piece from Bloch.SFJuggler 23:25, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

The Twilight Zone Complete Stories

Hello, I don't know what happened but I found this title without a publication in our cleanup report but with a lot of data in the notes that seemed related to a publication but not to a title. I've tried to salvage some of the data by creating a publication as per amazon here. As it seems that the original submission was yours, can you have a look at the result? Thanks. Hauck 13:42, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

I think it happened because it was submitted as a variant title. I thought it was weird when it got accepted. Submitting fixes. Thanks.SFJuggler 15:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Fixes approved. Note that in such cases, it's perhaps better to import the content from existing COLLECTIONs or an equivalent OMNIBUS, because all the stories that you entered have to be merged individually. Hauck 15:35, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I'll do that next time.SFJuggler 15:37, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Foundation.--Dirk P Broer 01:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

That's cool but I guess maybe I'm a bit thick here. What content was imported?SFJuggler 04:04, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
All that's now there, it was a collection without contents before I imported content into it. Got the record from this report.--Dirk P Broer 23:00, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The page count for Aunt Dimity: Detective ...

... seems to be considerably reduced now. Is that correct? Stonecreek 06:01, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

No, that's a fat finger. Correction submitted. Thanks.SFJuggler 15:14, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Meluch's The Myriad

I've corrected the Canadian cover price for our verified The Myriad from C$23.95 to C$35.00. Thanks. PeteYoung 09:16, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.SFJuggler 17:35, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Maps for Felicity Savage's 'Garden of Salt' series

I've created records for the uncredited maps that appear in Humility Garden and Delta City. You may wish to import them if they also appear in your omnibus edition. Cheers. PeteYoung 04:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. If I can get back to the boxes, I'll check.SFJuggler 00:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi, I had imported the contents into your verified Superhorror based on the British edition (as the same sheets were reused). Feel free to add any corrections once the moderators approve it. Anniemod 00:06, 16 November 2016 (UTC)


Hello! As the title suggests I've changed this to NONFICTION (from COLLECTION). Thanks, Stonecreek 14:00, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Also, the cover suggests Rudolf instead of Rulolf for this. Can you confirm (it would also fit more to his legal name). Stonecreek 14:04, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Rulolf v. B. Rucker

Hi, in your verified copy of Geometry, Relativity and the Fourth Dimension you have credited Rulolf v. B. Rucker as author, despite the name on the cover being Rudolf v. B. Rucker. The same Rulolf again appears in the preface to this book. Is it a typo?--Dirk P Broer 14:36, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Big typos. I'll submit fixes.SFJuggler 05:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

A Load of Old BoSh: Serious Scientific Talks

Hi, I've changed the publication type of A Load of Old BoSh: Serious Scientific Talks from 'Collection' to 'Nonfiction' (it contains only essays) because it kept creeping up in Primary-Verified Anthologies and Collections without Contents Titles.--Dirk P Broer 00:11, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks.SFJuggler 05:46, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Cover artist for "Soarer's Choice"

Your verified copy of this pub of Soarer's Choice has the cover artist listed as Raymond Swanland. All other books in the series have Daniel Horne as the cover artist. Including the paperback version of Soarer's Choice which has the same cover as the hardcover. Can you check your copy? Thanks. Doug H 15:48, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Swanland even claims it on his website: Soarer's Choice. Is it not his?SFJuggler 17:00, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
It looks like the pb credit is wrong. There is a signature (bottom left) that matches other Swanland pictures. Of the other covers in the series, only one has a visible signature that looks like a D, maybe an H. My suspicion is that they used Horne for the first five and Swanland for the last but didn't change the cover credit on the back. I'll update my copy and we can leave yours as is. Thanks for checking. Doug H 23:12, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
Good catch!SFJuggler 23:04, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Credo for Fantasy Writers

Hi. I have an essay by Bloch titled "Credo for Fantasy Writers" in my verified Pulpster 15 and wondered if it matched yours in Eighth Stage of Fandom. It starts "The following oath is recommended to be administered to all professional writers of weird or science fiction by the editor who purchases their first story." There are 34 promises the author is supposed to make. It ends "Although in view of the above plots one sometimes wonders..." Thanks for your help! Doug / Vornoff 05:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi. In checking through your verified Wonderworks library edition, I see that the Foreword actually starts on p.13 and is titled just "Foreword", not how it is in the ToC. Also "Romantic Fantasy" begins on p.54, not 55. Doug / Vornoff 02:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead and submit corrections since you have them in front of you. Thanks.SFJuggler 02:26, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I submitted page number changes but will have to contact the others to see if they have the title correct or not. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay.SFJuggler 04:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Serve It Forth

I've made a few changes to capitalization and punctuation in your verified publication Serve It Forth: Cooking with Anne McCaffrey. --Vasha 01:19, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two B

Re: your PV'd, my copy has gutter code "N46" (i.e. a week earlier than the "N47" in the listing's pub notes.) You OK if I add a pub note with this info? Markwood 05:30, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't see a problem. Good to know.SFJuggler 06:24, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
edit submitted Markwood 21:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

The Gods Themselves

re our PV'd, I uploaded new jacket scan to show spine. If your jacket is in better shape than mine, no need to notify me if you replace my image with one of yours showing spine. Markwood 08:10, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Dec

The following are possible typos in your verified pubs:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:39, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Not possible...confirmed...submitting fixes. Thanks.SFJuggler 16:45, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

grey318 vs gray318

Hi, in your verified copy of The Flight of the Silvers you credit the cover art to grey318. Could you please check whether that could be a typo for gray318?--Dirk P Broer 13:39, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Yep. Correction submitted. Good catch.SFJuggler 05:58, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

A Cosmic Cornucopia

I added the content to the first printing of your verified pub; you might wish to import that content to the second printing. Bob 19:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Submission made.SFJuggler 05:42, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Name check needed: George's Secret Key to the Universe


Can you check your verified George's Secret Key to the Universe and check the spelling of the artist "Dynamo Designs". Can this be a misspelling for Dynamo Design or is it indeed a different entity? Thanks! Annie 16:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

The book has gone into storage and I can't lay by hands on it right now. From the looks of the other material involved it's almost certainly the same people. You can go ahead and submit a correction or I will if you like.SFJuggler 01:37, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Replacing Cover Scans

When you upload a new cover scan on the wiki, there is no need to edit the pub. A null edit doesn't do anything. If the cover scan doesn't appear to change, you need to either force a page refresh (usually <F5>) or clear the browser cache. Our version of wiki software doesn't always tell the browser a new version is present and it will keep using the cached version. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I was told (maybe wrongly) that there was some cleanup that the editors needed to do and that I should notify. What's the latest word on that?SFJuggler 01:50, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Probably referring to deleting the old version off the wiki (it keeps a history of file versions just like edits). I thought those could be found & were being regularly purged without needing to be notified. I'll look into it. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:11, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Okay. I think I'll play it safe and notify until I hear otherwise. Thanks.SFJuggler 02:13, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Fifteen-Love On a Dead Man's Chest

Would you mind double checking Fifteen-Love On a Dead Man's Chest? It is usually given as Fifteen-Love on the Dead Man's Chest. Looking at the Amazon Look Inside of the 2013 Space Suits, the TOC shows "the". If the 2001 version has "a", then we should unmerge those two, merge the 2013 with the "the" record and variant the "a" record to the "the". Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:51, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

The book has gone back into storage. I will put it on the list of things to do if it resurfaces.SFJuggler 01:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Okay. I made the 2013 Gateway version the "the" version and then made your version a variant. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:10, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Works for me. We can always correct it later if need be. Thanks.SFJuggler 16:47, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Noon: 22nd Century

Hi, following this discussion your verified pub. got transformed into a COLLECTION. You might now want to add the contents. Thanks, Stonecreek 20:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Book is currently in storage. If I can find it I will add contents. If someone else adds them in the meantime, that's okay, too.SFJuggler 04:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

William Shatner's+Chris Henderson's ""Man O' War"

Hi, if Henderson is only credited in the acknwoledgments and not on the title page, we won't credit him in the publication (and its corresponding title). So I have installed a variant (parent) title instead. Thanks, Stonecreek 04:16, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks.SFJuggler 04:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect LCCN on verified pub note?

Hi, I recently fixed the note links in L. Ron Hubbard Presents Writers of the Future, Volume X and I noticed the original notes said LCCN 84-73270 was listed on the copyright page but failed to work in the LoC catalog. That is not true. Old LCCNs written with a hyphen like that need to be zero padded so I updated the note and made the correct LCCN link (along with fixing the old BLIC link to link into the British Library correctly). That said, the note also mentions "LCCN 2013207527 (from LOC lookup)", however that seems to be associated with different content (it seems to represent the series or at least the series since Galaxy Press started publishing it). Could you check that and consider removing it if it is not appropriate. Thank you, Uzume 20:56, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

I realize that you have to zero-pad the old LCCNs to find them. The "84-73270" was listed as a bad LCCN because the LOC entry explicitly lists it as invalid. The new LCCN was used because the LOC considers the series a periodical (it has an assigned ISSN to link the entire series). I would stand by the initial entry. On another note, thanks for the BLIC fix. I haven't been able to start the project of going back on all my edits to convert the links to the new templates. That's one less I have to do!SFJuggler 04:58, 24 April 2017 (UTC)


Changed publication date of Comets from 1986-00-00 to 1986-02-00 based on the publication note "First Printing, February 1986". Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:39, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks.SFJuggler 04:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

"Serve It Forth: Cooking with Anne McCaffrey"

In your verified publication, the recipe on p. 64, "Basque Potatoes with Wine", is credited to Nancy Etchmendy. This is certainly the well-known writer "Nancy Etchemendy". Can you check whether this was entered correctly, and hence should be varianted, or whether it was entered incorrectly? Thanks, Chavey 19:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

The book is in storage and I can't get to it immediately. It's probably correct and I just fat-fingered it.SFJuggler 04:51, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
I'll let you correct it when you feel like it. Chavey 05:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
I'll take care of it. Thanks for the heads-up.SFJuggler 05:28, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
I guess I won't take care of it yet. For some reason I cannot edit this entry. I can get into the edit screen but all keystrokes are blocked.SFJuggler 05:46, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
I have done the edit for you (but I don't have any idea why you were blocked). Stonecreek 08:06, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! That's the first time I've been blocked like that. I'm assuming it was a one-time glitch.SFJuggler 04:11, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


Hello, I've approved your submission (and disambiguated added content) but we're now perhaps facing an excess of maps ;-) one "generic" record from page 357 and onwards (if I understand correctly) and one specific on page 363. This may be overkill. What do you think? Hauck 06:53, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

It actually looks to be correct. The section in the back is jointly credited but there is nothing specifically identified. The map on page [363] is specifically identified. I would let it stand as-is.SFJuggler 04:09, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

The Tomorrow Project

Hi, as we don't list uncredited cover art I have removed the art title from this anthology. Stonecreek 13:17, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

I knew that! ;) Thanks.SFJuggler 02:18, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


Hello, I've approved your submission but took the liberty to re-"simplify" the title (as it was). So it matches again the title record and the COVERART record. IMHO adding such subtitles as "Book X in the Y n-logy" is not desirable. Hope you'll agree. Hauck 06:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Okay with me. I was just recording what was there. ;)SFJuggler 13:57, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

ADDENDUM: Discussion moved to the Community Portal. --Vasha 01:00, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

I've only read a couple of these, but I can't disagree with those that I have.SFJuggler 02:01, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Halfway to Anywhere: Achieving America's Destiny in Space

Moving the external identifiers to their new fields in your verified Halfway to Anywhere: Achieving America's Destiny in Space. Let me know if you would like to be notified when the only change I am doing is this. Annie 20:47, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. This is something that I hope to get around to doing on all my verified titles eventually. If that's all you're doing then I don't need to be notified.SFJuggler 03:59, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [4].Don Erikson 20:52, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


Please see User_talk:Kraang#Sundiver. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Combining the two interior art listings works for me.SFJuggler 05:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Third Reich Victorious: Alternate Decisions of World War II

Hello, I'm not convinced that such a book (that seem to gather essays on alternate outcomes of WWII issues) is to be included in the db. We're here more in the field of (uchronic) historic studies like this book. Note that nearly all the authors are unknown to the ISFDB at present which is another hint of the non-genre status of the book (there are also not an ounce of fiction texts in it). What are your thoughts on the matter. Hauck 09:49, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Same for Rising Sun Victorious: The Alternate History of How the Japanese Won the Pacific War. Hauck 09:51, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
That's fine if that's the decision. I was just filling in contents for already-existing entries.SFJuggler 15:44, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your input, I'm going to delete both of them. Hauck 16:48, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
K.SFJuggler 21:28, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Karel Čapek's R.U.R.

I'm in the process of correcting Karel Čapek's last name from Capek to Čapek. In nearly all cases we had his name incorrectly listed without the hachek over the C. I've gone ahead and changed the title record for the play R. U. R. which is included in your verified copy of Science Fiction Thinking Machines and your copy of The Arbor House Treasury of Science Fiction Masterpieces. Could you check your copies to see if how his name appears in the books. If it is Čapek, then nothing further needs to be done. Otherwise, we need to swap the title in your book for this one. This also assumes that the translations in your copies are by Paul Selver alone. There is a different translation by Selver and Nigel Playfair as by Karel Čapek. If your copies have some other combination of translator, name and title, we may need to add a new title record. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up.SFJuggler 03:22, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

A Journey Through Time: Exploring the Universe With the Hubble Space Telescope

Hello, I'm not sure that this book meets our ROA as it's a NONFICTION title that is not about spec-fic. The usual problematic question is "Is Caidin above the threshold?" (Barbree is clearly below it). What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 05:59, 23 July 2017 (EDT)

Caidin is already in the database with more than 30 novels plus assorted non-fiction (including one with Barbree) so I think it fits but I'm not going to lose any sleep if it doesn't make it in.SFJuggler 12:48, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for your input. I've cleaned Caidin's record and rejected your submission in order to avoid other astronomy books. Hauck 13:11, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
Okay.SFJuggler 13:23, 23 July 2017 (EDT)

Road War

I credited the cover of Road War to R. S. Brown and expanded the note on his signature initials to say that he signed other Traveler volumes with the fuller name. MOHearn 10:01, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

Cool. Thanks!SFJuggler 18:24, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

Grand Prix de l'Imaginaire for Cadigan Story

I'm going to reject your edit to add the 1998 Grand Prix de l'Imaginaire nomination for Pat Cadigan's "The Boys in the Rain". The short fiction categories for that award can be given to either short fiction or collections of short fiction. On the award's website, they list the nomination for the "recueil" (collection). Thus the nomination is for Cadigan's collection and not for the story of the same title. I'll also point out that the awards for translated works should be linked to the translated title records. When that is the case, the parent title will still show the award. For example, the winner from 1998 in the same category is the Poppy Z. Brite story "Calcutta, seigneur des nerfs" which is where the award is linked. The parent title of that story still shows the award even though it is not linked to that parent title. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:30, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

Noted.SFJuggler 00:57, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

The Martian Inca

Hi, I want to alter your notes for The Martian Inca. You give "LCCN printed in book (77-80269) does not exist. The LCCN found that does exist (listed below) references the Gollancz edition. LCCN: 84-18339." I will make it "LCCN printed in book does not exist. External links LCCN: 77-80269.". I have removed the 84-18339 remark and link and will place the link with the Gollancz edition.--Dirk P Broer 15:33, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

At the time I made the entry it did not exist. If it works now, go for it!SFJuggler 22:23, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

My Days With the Fairies variant

Hi. Your submission that I have on hold appears to be creating a parent that's identical to the child. I can't tell what you intended, so please take a look. Thanks. --MartyD 08:07, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Not at all what I intended. "My Days with the Fairies" should be a variant of "Fairies I Have Met." Killing the submission and trying again.SFJuggler 00:24, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

Price added to Star Wreck IV

I've added the US price ($3.99) to your verified Star Wreck IV. --TracyPoff 14:09, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Not sure how I forgot to put that in. Thanks!SFJuggler 00:20, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

The Night Is Large

Hi. You verified and probably entered 1996 hardcover The Night Is Large P633042. now provides for that work a "Look Inside!" the 1997 paperback format.

For me now, that Look Inside includes p.xiv, the end of the Illustrations list, but lacks p.xiii. Of the illustrations you note "only a few credited"; I wonder whether you entered all of the credited ones in the database (as I see you entered no others). A revised Note may clarify that.

Everything that was credited was entered. If you know of credits for other, please enter them. I'd be interested.SFJuggler 23:42, 29 September 2017 (EDT)

Is the frontispiece illustration "bp • The Edge of the World" credited to "S. S. Sime" as our record shows, not S. H. Sime? Judging by the paperback "Look Inside", S(idney) H Sime will be no surprise as the artist (compare 1899 story illus. by Sime)--and clearly signed "S H SIME").

The 1899 illustration on page 79 alone is clearly labeled "S H SIME". The other four are signed S. H. Sime plausibly, and the signature of engraver(?) is more prominent.
No signature is visible to me from the 1996/97 Look at Amazon. --P64 moments later
I did not go through the book page-by-page checking for signatures. Again, if you know, please enter them with my blessing. The more information, the better.SFJuggler 23:42, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
I will change the S.S. Sime to S.H. Sime.SFJuggler 23:42, 29 September 2017 (EDT)
I don't know anything about the book, nor know that the frontispiece is by S(idney) H Sime. Simply I noticed "S. S. Sime" between "S. H." and "Sidney" when I searched for the former Name a few days ago [working on that 1899 magazine story], wondered whether "S. S." is genuine, and investigated as far as I could using only the database and the Amazon Look, where the reproduction looks plausibly Sime.
Thanks for expanding the note. --Pwendt|talk 13:44, 1 October 2017 (EDT)
No problem.SFJuggler 13:47, 1 October 2017 (EDT)

Do you know why we use fc/bc and fep/bep for covers and endpapers, front and back, but bp/ep for pages front and back?

--Pwendt|talk 16:02, 28 September 2017 (EDT)

Giger's Alien: Film Design, 20th Century Fox

As this book of film design seems to have been published initially in English (I own a German edition), I'd like to ask you about the title of this re-used painting. In my copy it's on p. 39, which may be the same as in yours. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 11:41, 2 October 2017 (EDT)

I've always thought of this image as something like "The Gunner" but for some reason it's called "Space Jockey" (they even referred to it on the set that way). Go figure.SFJuggler 12:17, 2 October 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for looking it up. By the way: What does the interior art by Verena Eggman consist of (there's none by this artist in my edition). Stonecreek 00:24, 4 October 2017 (EDT)
No actual "art" but the photograph of Giger on the inside cover. May not exist in your edition.SFJuggler 12:09, 7 October 2017 (EDT)
I'd think we usually don't index inside photos of authors or artists (or buildings). Christian Stonecreek 05:16, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Cover artist for The Black Angel

It would seem that the 'National Gallery in Prague' is not the true artist but only the supplier of the picture. So, I recommend to not credit that source. Christian Stonecreek 05:14, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Yeah, couldn't find any other reference. Change made.SFJuggler 12:40, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Serious Scientific Talks

I've discovered an uncollected Serious Scientific Talk by Bob Shaw: Eau De Clone in Matrix #30. It seems logical to put these into an essay series, though this would affect the appearance of our verified (and much loved) A Load of Old BoSh. What do you think? PeteYoung 14:01, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

I'm okay with it. But now I want to read it. Curse you! ;)SFJuggler 18:13, 8 October 2017 (EDT)


Some questions about Warrior. First, on a minor matter, could you check if the "o'" in the title of "Ford o' Kabul River" is printed uppercase or lowercase there? Since that particular preposition is not on the list of standardized prepositions, a moderator wants to put it in the database "as written."

Secondly, I am sure that that poem and "Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries" are non-genre and would like to mark them as such. Can you identify any other non-genre items in this anthology? --Vasha 15:57, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Not sure I'm going to be able to do that in a timely manner. I'm taking boxes out of storage, logging and then cycling them back in until I get some room and decent shelving again. This one was processed almost 4 years ago and I'm not sure I could locate it immediately. I'll keep it on the back burner, though.SFJuggler 23:36, 21 November 2017 (EST)
No problem. There's another verifier, but that was somebody I'd recently asked other questions, so I thought I'd bug somebody else for a change :-) I will ask them since you can't do it. Thanks for the reply. --Vasha 23:42, 21 November 2017 (EST)
No problem. I'd love to be able to get back to my books at will *sniff* ;)SFJuggler 02:09, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Crush Creative

Your verified The Getaway God has the cover artist as CrushCreative where their other works are credited as Crush Creative. Via Amazon Look Inside, the ebook version of The Getaway God has it with the space. Would you mind double checking your version before I set up a pseudonym? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:50, 6 December 2017 (EST)

Most of my stuff goes right back into storage as soon as it's cataloged here. Since this is a fairly recent one I should be able to get to it shortly.SFJuggler 04:23, 9 December 2017 (EST)

The Shape Changer

Hello, just FYI, you have verified twice this pub. Hauck 11:37, 2 January 2018 (EST)

Internet connection was bouncing on and off that day. Can you remove one of them?SFJuggler 01:02, 3 January 2018 (EST)
Alas, moderators can't do that. Perhaps should you un-verify then re-verify. Hauck 05:39, 3 January 2018 (EST)
Done!SFJuggler 12:01, 6 January 2018 (EST)

The Fallen

I accepted your edit to The Fallen, but I removed the comic as a content record and simply described it in the publication notes. Graphic works are excluded per ISFDB policy. The only exceptions we make are for prominent genre authors which would not seem to be the case here. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:19, 18 January 2018 (EST)

Yep. Saw that. Not a problem.SFJuggler 17:20, 18 January 2018 (EST)

Your verified Lethem

You verified this [5] as a first printing with a date of 1994-03-00 and "First Edition" [over] "B C D E" on copyright page. My copy is probably the true first with "A B C D" on copyright page. So your copy is most likely a 2nd printing.Don Erikson 16:39, 14 February 2018 (EST)

Thanks. I have never seen one with an "A". I have updated the listing to show that this is a second and changed the publication date to move it after your entry.SFJuggler 22:52, 21 February 2018 (EST)
Hi, I have set the month to unknown, as this seems to be what we know about the month of publication and waht we do in such cases (it easily might have been published in alater year). Thanks, Stonecreek 23:34, 21 February 2018 (EST)
Works for me.SFJuggler 23:46, 21 February 2018 (EST)

The Life and Times of Schrödinger's Cat: A Quantum Tale of Love and Entanglement

Hello, I've approved your submission but have two questions about this book: 1) may the publisher be this already existing one? and 2) (in fact this is not a question) I've regularized artist's anme. Hauck 04:47, 25 February 2018 (EST)

1) Possible, but can't confirm or deny as the website listed in the book if 404 now, so I'll go with it until I know better. 2) Whoops, forgot to do that. Thanks.SFJuggler 12:38, 25 February 2018 (EST)
There is no need to enter the Goodreads ID as '5995539-the-life-and-times-of-schrodinger-s-cat', '5995539' is enough.--Dirk P Broer 09:08, 1 March 2018 (EST)
Good to know that. Thanks.SFJuggler 00:21, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Futuropolis jacket artist

I've also verified Your pub notes say, "Cover art not credited. Possibly Angus McKie." However, on the Acknowledgments page (next to last page, adjacent to image #153) it says, "Cover design by Alan Daniels". (And FWIW note Image #129 by Alan Daniels, which has a similar airbrush look.) If you concur the jacket art is by Daniels, per that credit, one of us should make that change to the pub record. I'll do it if you prefer. Markwood 13:19, 9 April 2018 (EDT)

Price question

Your verified book [6] shows a price $2.95. My copy and the image of the book both show $3.50. Is yours a variant or just a typo?Don Erikson 16:52, 11 April 2018 (EDT) $3.50 is correct. Typo on my part. Correction submitted. Good catch!SFJuggler 15:15, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

Sam, Kieth or Keith, you choose

Hi, in your verified copy of The Art of Star Wars Galaxy there is a interior artist that is also mentioned in the notes, Sam Keith. Shouldn't that be Sam Kieth, as is suggested here?--Dirk P Broer 11:57, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

Correction submitted. Good catch.SFJuggler 12:36, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

Visions of the Universe


Can you confirm that Iwasaki is either not credited at all or credited with his Japanese (aka canonical name) in this book and not with the English spelling? Thanks! Annie 23:46, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

This book is in storage right now, but he's very clearly credited on the cover with the English spelling and I do not remember any Japanese text at all in the book. For what it's worth.SFJuggler 00:01, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction

Hi. I accepted your The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction submission and left it alone, since you said you are not finished. Don't forget to add the issue date to the title(s). --MartyD 21:14, 29 April 2018 (EDT)

Yes, trying to get back to it now. Thanks.SFJuggler 21:19, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
For the titling, you did it right. The only thing missing was putting it into the title series (which I did, and I also made the variant to the canonical editor name). --MartyD 22:16, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
Thanks. Is there a help page for this? I have the other two issues for 2018 to enter. I think I also need to link the departments to their "series", is that right?SFJuggler 22:18, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
Magazine help is a bit scattered. Have a look at the links below. For departments, some people organize regular features into series. You can do that if you wish. If that has already been done with other issues, yes, it's best to follow the precedent and do the same with what appears in a newly-recorded issue.
One other common practice for high-frequency magazines is to make a single Title ("Editor") record to represent the year, then merge all of the year's individual issues under that one title (so you get a title record along the lines of "XYZ - 2017" and, say, 12 issues linked to it whose publication records show "XYZ, January 2017", "XYZ, February 2017", and so on.
I hope that is useful. If you need help, or find yourself wondering about anything, just ask. --MartyD 07:25, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

Science Fiction Thinking Machines

Would you please double check the title of Science Fiction Thinking Machines? I'm holding an edit that would update the title record to "Science-Fiction Thinking Machines" as the editor believes it should have a hyphen. I note the cover does show the hyphen and there is no note regarding the title page being different then the cover. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2018 (EDT)

I cannot get to this book at the moment (in storage). It's in my personal records as without a hyphen but if the other editor has the book in front of them then I would go with that.SFJuggler 13:30, 5 May 2018 (EDT)
Updated. If you ever get a chance to check, that would probably be beneficial. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:58, 6 May 2018 (EDT)
Noted.SFJuggler 13:03, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

"Jewel of the Heart[h]" in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, January-February 2018

Hi. I have an editor who proposes to change "Jewel of the Hearth" to "Jewel of the Heart" in your verified The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, January-February 2018. Would you check how it appears in your copy? Thanks. --MartyD 06:54, 10 May 2018 (EDT)

Go for it. Typo on my part. Thanks.SFJuggler 00:04, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
Thanks! --MartyD 06:54, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
Thank you both for your help. I'll know the correct procedure to use next time. --Ccfinlay 16:29, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

Adding an essay to the Expanded Universe TOC

Hi—you’re listed as a verifier for Heinlein’s Expanded Universe, so I think I’m supposed to notify you about this? There was an essay missing from the TOC for the original hardcover edition: “Spinoff,” on p. 500. I’ve now added that, though I think it’s awaiting moderation. I’m seeing that essay in both the 1980 hardcover (my copy says “First edition” on the cover) and the 1982 first mass-market paperback edition. Let me know if you need more info or have concerns. --Elysdir 19:00, 17 May 2018 (EDT)

PS: I wasn’t sure whether I need to do anything to get the essay’s appearance in the book listed on the essay’s Title page (, or whether it’ll automatically appear on the Title page if the TOC change is approved. Can you let me know if there’s more I need to do? Thanks, —Elysdir 19:05, 17 May 2018 (EDT)
Just chiming in after approving the addition: as you just added it to the publication as a new title, it was added as a separate record. I merged it with the rest of the Spinoff essays.
In cases like that, when you are adding a title we already have, you can do an import instead of publication edit - look at the left-hand menu inside of a publication. There is an "Import Content" menu. It will allow you to pass the ID of the title(s) you want imported. That way the merge would not have been needed. :) Thanks! Annie 19:16, 17 May 2018 (EDT)
Oops—sorry about that, and thank you for fixing it! —Elysdir 14:11, 19 May 2018 (EDT)
Looks like I'm not needed here so I'll just mosey on... ;)SFJuggler 01:56, 27 May 2018 (EDT)

Gerald Kersh

You may know Harlan Ellison has a site dedicated to Gerald Kersh, and it has a wealth of bibliographic detail (eg. here and here) which I would like to use to enhance our records. This would probably alter some of the detail in publications you have verified, eg. more accurate dates for The Secret Masters/The Great Wash and some of his collections. Also, given the great amount of genre short fiction we have for him, would you consider Kersh to be 'above the threshold' as I do? I would like to add the non-genre short stories that are included in his many collections, but I want to get other verifiers opinions first. Given his standing as a highly respected genre author I think our biblio page for him is lacking and ought to more resemble that of Kurt Vonnegut, who also has a large number of non-genre short stories listed. What do you think? PeteYoung 13:08, 3 June 2018 (EDT)

Further to this, I'm trying to untangle some incorrect Kersh records that we already have in the database, for instance Kersh's Lunatic's Broth is a variant of 'Busto Is a Ghost, Too Mean to Give Us a Fright!' according to Harlan Ellison's online Kersh bibliography. 'Lunatic's Broth' appears in your verified The Horrible Dummy and Other Stories as by "P. J. Gahagan", the pseudonym he used for the story's original appearance in Courier. My question is, do the three pseudonymous stories in the collection appear under the names P. J. Gahagan and Waldo Kellar, or do they appear without pseudonyms? Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 02:35, 5 June 2018 (EDT)
I consider Kersh as "above the threshold" and would include all of his stuff here. I don't have access to the collection right now (in storage) but I do not recall any of his pseudonyms appearing on TOCs in any of his collections that I have. They were usually just page numbers and titles. The British editions during and after the war (into the '50s) were rather sparse on bibliographic details, not even listing original appearances in most cases.SFJuggler 00:30, 6 June 2018 (EDT)
Thanks. I'll get on with adding the non-genre. I think records for Kersh's short fiction were created using Ellison's Kersh biblio, but they were not always done correctly, using pseudonyms that were very likely only used for their first magazine/newspaper appearances, and there are also typos and other idiosyncrasies in our database that seem to be copied directly. Can I take this as permission to upgrade your verified pubs? I'll let you know about everything I've done. Thanks again. PeteYoung 00:50, 6 June 2018 (EDT)
I've added the non-genre that appear in Neither Man Nor Dog to my ebook pub and, as I indicated, imported them to your verified pub. I've preserved the page numbers you had previously indexed for the genre stories, and used the pipe method to order the rest as they may appear in yours (I'm assuming the story order is the same). However this has resulted in an odd display for the stories on pages 1 and 10 – they're not grouped with the rest of the numbered titles. When you get a chance you may wish to add page numbers for these remaining non-genre stories. I've also removed the note referring to "Only SF stories are included in this record's contents." Thanks. PeteYoung 17:25, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
When I get access to the books again I will go back through them and complete the contents. Thanks!SFJuggler 23:05, 10 June 2018 (EDT)

About webzines and stories

Hello, As per our rules of acquisition, webzines are not eligible unless they are a SFWA membership eligible market or they are shortlisted for a major award. It does not matter how important the author is (Stephen King or John Doe), we cannot add them as the rules stand at the moment. Sooner or later we will probably need to change the rules but for now, I need to reject your submission. The only way for this story (and others) to show up anywhere is to add them to the notes of the author. If that blog/site/webzine has a nomination somewhere, that changes the story but I cannot find any proof of that. Sorry. Annie 23:28, 10 June 2018 (EDT)

Not a problem. Thanks for the info!SFJuggler 23:40, 10 June 2018 (EDT)

The Shroud of the Thwacker

Hi. You verified an October 2005 paperback as publisher "Miramax Books / Hyperion", which is our notation if "Miramax Books" is/was an imprint of Hyperion. Does the title page actually show "Miramax Books/Hyperion" (unspaced) as your cited LCCN implies?

Does the title leaf identify an imprint of Hyperion, or of Hyperion Books for Children, or neither? Compare our publisher Miramax Books / Hyperion Books for Children. --Pwendt|talk 19:47, 18 June 2018 (EDT)

This one has been cycled into storage so I can't get to it right at the moment. Sorry.SFJuggler 01:21, 8 July 2018 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, January-February 2018

Hi, there was a simple typo on this entry. "Pilgrimage from Pegasus" should have been "Plumage from Pegasus." I'm the editor and I have the original in front of me, so I double-checked. Thanks for entering all this data, and I hope it's okay that I made that minor correction. Ccfinlay 17:23, 2 July 2018 (EDT)

Perfectly fine with me. Thanks for the catch. Just got the July/August issue, so that's next.SFJuggler 01:20, 8 July 2018 (EDT)

Ashley Bloom vs Ashley Blooms

Hi, In The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, July-August 2018 I've changed Ashley Bloom into Ashley Blooms, based upon the contents found here and here.--Dirk P Broer 05:32, 20 July 2018 (EDT)

Good catch.SFJuggler 22:40, 22 July 2018 (EDT)

Saucer Wisdom

Added the Canadian cover price to our verified Saucer Wisdom. PeteYoung 06:01, 20 July 2018 (EDT)

Thanks.SFJuggler 22:40, 22 July 2018 (EDT)


I updated Convergence to

  • Add the subtitle "The Return of the Builders"
  • Update the Cover artist credit note to add that it's also on the copyright page.
  • Added note about the location of the map and that it's not credited.
  • Added content records for the map and introduction which pushed the start of the story to page 6.
  • Moved the OCLC into external links.

--Marc Kupper 01:53, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Thanks!SFJuggler 22:38, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

The Fear Index

OCLC added to this pub. --Zapp 10:46, 17 September 2018 (EDT)

Thanks!SFJuggler 12:05, 22 September 2018 (EDT)

"I have the book"

Hi, I've seen you submitting updates with, amongst other material, "I have the book" in the note field. Why don't you verify the book?--Dirk P Broer 21:10, 30 September 2018 (EDT)

I do verify them...after the submission has been accepted. This is just a courtesy note to the moderator that I'm taking the information from the book rather than some website. If it winds up in the note field rather than the notes to moderator then that's a error on my part.SFJuggler 23:44, 30 September 2018 (EDT)

The World I Left Behind (Me)

Hi, I added the Me to this (it seemed to be the right thing to do, judging by the cover and the enclosed title). Stonecreek 01:58, 6 October 2018 (EDT) did I miss that? Thanks!SFJuggler 01:59, 6 October 2018 (EDT)
Things like that do happen to everyone of us: you think you have done one change, but actually missed out on it. Such is life, I suppose. Stonecreek 04:47, 6 October 2018 (EDT)


I'm holding your addition of Sundance. Is this genre? The descriptions don't make it sound that way. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:54, 13 October 2018 (EDT)

Wasn't really sure about this one. It's not billed as genre but it's sort of an alternate history. Borderline. Your call.SFJuggler 16:27, 13 October 2018 (EDT)
Historical fiction routinely changes some historical facts. Since the only delta seems to be Sundance didn't die in Bolivia & that is already part of the historical legend, this would be historical fiction vs. alternate history. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:53, 13 October 2018 (EDT)
Fair enough!SFJuggler 18:21, 13 October 2018 (EDT)

Astounding: John W. Campbell Memorial Anthology

re: our verified, the ISBN recognized by ABE is 0-394-48167-4 (that is: the correct checksum digit at end should be "4", not "7" as printed on the book.) I will correct the ISFDB listing and add a Pub Note. Markwood 19:12, 21 October 2018 (EDT)

The Skin Palace

Hi. You verified the 1996 hardcover P674040 as from "The Mysterious Press". Does the title page state "The Mysterious Press" rather than "Mysterious Press". The cited library records show no definite article.

Anyway, we use Mysterious Press (no publisher Note, yet) for an imprint of Warner Books, mainly 20th century, and The Mysterious Press for the current Grove Atlantic imprint.

So your record should be changed, perhaps with another note item. If you say t.p. shows "The Mysterious Press", I will note that when I revise the current imprint/publisher Note. --Pwendt|talk 20:24, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Sometime last month I did write that publisher Note for Mysterious Press (no definite article). Today I submitted a change of your reported publisher from "The Mysterious Press", which we use for the current Grove Atlantic imprint. --Pwendt|talk 21:38, 1 December 2018 (EST)
Okay.SFJuggler 12:15, 14 December 2018 (EST)


Have added a couple of bibliographic notes to your verified copy of Somtow Sucharitkul's Mallworld. PeteYoung 20:39, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Cool. Didn't know some of that!SFJuggler 12:24, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

Where do You Get Thsoe Crazy Ideas?

In your verified The Best of Xero, is the "Thsoe" in Where do You Get Thsoe Crazy Ideas? a database typo or is it spelled that way in the pub? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:00, 29 December 2018 (EST)

Typo. I'll submit a correction. Thanks.SFJuggler 18:05, 29 December 2018 (EST)

F&SF Nov/Dec 2018

Based on my copy, I made some edits to F&SF Nov/Dec 2018: corrected author of 2 cartoons from Nick Harris to Nick Downes; added the Publisher's Note on p. 200. I also added disambiguators and series to titles, adjusted the titles of the cartoons to the format used in records for other issues of F&SF, and suchlike little tweaks. Finally, I removed the "Coming Attractions." It's true that Help:Screen:NewPub#Contents included with exceptions says that it's a judgement call whether or not to include coming attractions announcements in contents, but it seems to me that the ones in F&SF are too brief and low on substance to be the sort of article Help says to include. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 00:04, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Don't know where "Harris" came from. Thanks for the tweaks!SFJuggler 00:17, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Election Day 2084: Science Fiction Stories About the Future of Politics

I was looking at the Internet Archives's copy of Election Day 2084 and had a couple of questions regarding the record:

  • Page 57 has the story as by John W. Jakes. However, the scan shows John Jakes on the title page.
  • Page 154 has the story as by Robert A. Heinlein and Elma Wentz. However, the scan shows only Robert A. Heinlein on the title page. The intro paragraph does say 'originally published as by "Lyle Monroe and Elma Wentz"', but we go by the credit and that is Heinlein alone.

Would you mind double checking your version? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:16, 31 December 2018 (EST)

This book has gone back into storage so I can't get to it easily. I'm comfortable with your corrections. Do you want to make them or shall I?SFJuggler 14:09, 1 January 2019 (EST)
Changes made. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:12, 1 January 2019 (EST)
Thanks for making the changes.SFJuggler 18:07, 1 January 2019 (EST)

Test of Honor

Hi. Re your verified, I've also verified and am going to 3 corrections to the contents (last page number is 473 not 470, the page number for "The Warrior's Apprentice" should be 211 not 209, and addition of the linking short story "Aftermaths" which is not currently in the record.) If your copy actually has the title page for "The Warrior's Apprentice" on page 209 instead of page 211, and/or if it actually omits "Aftermaths", then check the publisher (should be Nelson Doubleday) and printing code on page 472 (should be "R11".) If either is different, then check to see if your book is this 1995 edition If it's not that GuildAmerica edition, then you've got yet a 3rd variant of the title. Thanks. Markwood 15:51, 10 January 2019 (EST)

No, this is the Nelson Doubleday with the "R11" code as specified. Thanks for the corrections!SFJuggler 00:16, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan

I just finished entering the contents for my paperback version of your verified Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan. You may wish to import that content to your hardcover. Bob 23:16, 11 February 2019 (EST)

Thanks! Import submitted.Jim 12:39, 7 April 2019 (EDT)

The Ganymede Takeover (Severn, 1988)

Hi, you're the primary verifier for and you state "Cover: The Ganymede Takeover (1988) • by Patrick Mortemore" and "Cover artist credited on front flap of dustjacket." The cover is from Chris Foss, at least that's what he states on his page (and it sure looks like Chris Foss, but I can't see his signature-logo). Can you re-check - and maybe add a flavour of doubt, if the books actually states Mortemore (and it wouldn't be the first book with completely wrong data)? Christoph 16:34, 16 February 2019 (EST)

That book is in storage and I don't have ready access to it at the moment. I was more inclined to think Foss also but went with the citation on the dustjacket. Go ahead and change it to Foss with a note. I'm thinking something happened like this: [7].SFJuggler 12:07, 17 February 2019 (EST)
I will, thanks. Gimme a day. - Btw, similar thing happened here (very top): [8] + there's more than one PKD edition where they got the author wrong (on the cover) --Christoph 12:17, 18 February 2019 (EST)
Lovely. Saved money on proofreading, though.SFJuggler 17:54, 24 February 2019 (EST)

Dragons and Nightmares: 4 Short Novels

Hi Juggler, I've made a change to the Note for your verified pub Dragons and Nightmares: 4 Short Novels. I've had on hold for the last two weeks an edit by Elmsfan who wanted to entirely delete the second bullet point, with the reasoning (in the Note to Moderator) that "I have #161 in my hand and it is not signed and no indication that the 1,000 were signed - looking at copies for sale also shows most unsigned and those signed were done so personally NOT as part of Limited Edition release." My attempt at discussion on this editor's talk page drew no response, so after two weeks I'm rejecting the edit and instead adding a comment that the info in Chalker & Owings is disputed. Do let me know if you have an issue with this as PV. Cheers. PeteYoung 22:53, 24 February 2019 (EST)

I have #904 and it IS signed so maybe some of them slipped through without signatures. Always possible. The comment probably is the way to go since Chalker is no longer around to check with. I'd go with it.SFJuggler 23:52, 24 February 2019 (EST)
Pete left the same message on my talk page. I have copy #205 which is not signed. Nor does the colophon mention mention signed copies. I also have a later edition of Chalker & Owings (1998) which mentions the numbering, but nothing about signed copies. Is your copy signed on the colophon page, or a separate limitation page? Or might it have been signed after publication? In any case, and if you agree, I'm going to propose changing the note on the publication record to reference the later edition of Chalker & Owings and eliminate the word signed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:04, 26 February 2019 (EST)
Ron, I think we should go with removing the word signed. I believe this one was signed afterwards. I remember going to one of his signings at a convention and I'll bet this is one of the books I brought.SFJuggler 17:23, 9 March 2019 (EST)

The Gemini Man: His Time Is Now I added a note about the acknowledgments to the notes, if that's ok. Thanks. gzuckier 21:25, 12 March 2019 (EDT)

Hadn't noticed that. Cool.SFJuggler 22:54, 12 March 2019 (EDT)

Groff Conklin's 'Science Fiction Adventures in Mutation'

Hi. Since you PV'd this book, hope you can help with a question about my copy, a re-bound ex-library book with no jacket. There's no statement of edition or printing on its copyright page. Do you know whether there's anything on the copyright page designating a first edition and/or 1st or later printing? I checked Cole, Currey, Tuck & Magill: no help. Thanks! Markwood 19:01, 13 April 2019 (EDT)

This one is in storage and I don't have ready access to it at the moment. But this was done by Vanguard Press. They typically had extremely sparse copyright pages and I don't remember ANY of their books indicating a first printing/edition.Jim 12:03, 20 April 2019 (EDT)

The Brontés Went to Woolworths

Since it is reviewed in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, March/April 2019, I assume The Brontés Went to Woolworths is speculative fiction but the descriptions on Amazon, et. al. don't indicate it. Since it is under the Curiosities column vs. the normal review column, would you please confirm the review treats it as genre and then I will add it? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:51, 20 April 2019 (EDT)

It seems to be a parody of a certain type of novel. The review states that the Brontés are called up in a seance and go shopping at Woolworths with their "twentieth-century soul sisters". For what that's worth...Jim 19:20, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
Book added and review linked. Thanks! -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:38, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
You're welcome.Jim 12:43, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

The Clockwork Dynasty

Hi, I'd like to add more info on origin artwork of cover of The Clockwork Dynasty, and clarify Michael J. Windsor is actually the cover designer, not (one of) the cover art artist(s). Can you agree? Thx MagicUnk 18:22, 7 May 2019 (EDT)

I obviously copied the wrong field from my database into the cover artist. I have Triff (photography); siloto (photography); josefauer (photography); Andrey Burmakin (photography); grafvision (typography); Rzt Moster (photography). If that matches your info then go ahead and submit it (or let me know and I can submit it, either way works for me). Thanks for the catch!Jim 23:23, 13 May 2019 (EDT)
Hi Jim, I've updated the notes accordingly & submitted for approval. I've left the cover art record in though. I'm impartial, so I'll leave it to you whether you want it removed or not. Regards, MagicUnk 15:04, 14 May 2019 (EDT)
I say remove it and put the correct information in! ;)Jim 01:13, 15 May 2019 (EDT)

The Glass Teat

I corrected a mistyped SBN number in the publishing note of a book you primary-verified here Hifrommike65 19:13, 11 June 2019 (CST).

Thanks for the catch!Jim 17:47, 16 June 2019 (EDT)


Hi, you edit books and use the term PV1 in the notes -or state 'have book' in the notes to moderator, yet you do not verify them, why?--Dirk P Broer 20:02, 16 June 2019 (EDT)

They are verified afterwards. Check out Opal Deception which you just accepted.Jim 20:05, 16 June 2019 (EDT)
No, you not only enter new books that way, you edit existing books like that too.--Dirk P Broer 20:07, 16 June 2019 (EDT)
Personal quirk. I only verify after I've seen the information that was accepted and I feel comfortable with it. If it's isfdb protocol to verify before submitting an edit then I'll do it that way but I was unaware that there was a particular order. The "Have book" note is a courtesy note to the editor that I'm working from the book itself and not some website or other reference.Jim 20:17, 16 June 2019 (EDT)
If you edit a book that hasn't been verified and mention 'have book', than I personally wonder why you don't verify the book as well. See it as a courtesy to other Isfdb users: they know that someone ownes that book and can answer questions about it.--Dirk P Broer 22:27, 16 June 2019 (EDT)
I DO verify them. If you look at the stats page, as of last night I have primary verified 2,114 publications. I verified a few more just minutes ago. I just want to see what information I'm verifying first.Jim 00:03, 17 June 2019 (EDT)

The Death of Baldur

I'm holding an edit that would change The Death of Baldur to "The Death of Balder". Per Amazon Look Inside, "Balder" is the spelling used in the ToC. Would you please check your edition of Norse Mythology to see what it's title page has? I will also ping the other verifiers in case it changed between editions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:51, 14 July 2019 (EDT)

Go ahead with the edit. Typo.Jim 22:56, 14 July 2019 (EDT)