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F&SF, February 2001 - Di Filippo

Is the piece by Paul Di Filippo in this issue titled "The Magazine Chums..." or "The Magazine Chumps..." (as in his essay collection Plumage from Pegasus? Thanks. MHHutchins 05:27, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Another pieces by Di Filippo in the F&SF, October-November 2001: is it "Adventures in Mishmosh..." or "Adventures in Mishmash..."? MHHutchins 05:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Both appear in the magazines as entered. The title "Magazine Chums . . ." is also used four times in the author's intro. to that column. I guess he figured it was funnier to change it to "The Magazine Chumps . . .?"--Rkihara 06:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation. Now I'll get with the verifier of the collection to confirm his titles. MHHutchins 17:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Reno in 2011

Looks like Reno is the site for the 2011 WorldCon. Only a four hour drive for me - or maybe I can get a cheap ride on a tour bus.--swfritter 01:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll have to go then, I haven't been to a con in thirty years. It's a four hour drive for me too.--Rkihara 05:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

"The Skeleton Key"

Nina Kiriki Hoffman's "The Skeleton Key" was nominated for the Hugo award as a novella and for the Nebula award as a novelette. It's 40 pages in your verified The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, August 1993 and only 31 pages in her collection Time Travelers, Ghosts, and Other Visitors, but Five Star books tend to be big. The Locus Index for 2003 has it listed as a novella, so perhaps we should use it as a tie breaker and add Notes? Ahasuerus 18:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I rechecked the entry and found that I had mis-numbered "Coming Attractions," which should have been on p. 160, not p.162. The advertising section was on p. 159, so the text ends on p. 158. The last page and intro were only a half page long, and there were two half page inserts, an ad and a subscription coupon, so the total page count falls to 35 pages. I counted the words on one page and got 432 words, so that works out to 15,120 words total, which makes it a Novelette. The TOC lists the story as a Novella, which may account for the listing in Locus.--Rkihara 21:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Kind if interesting that it did not make the cutoff for the Hugo awards which I think have the same word count rules. I wonder if some people nominated it as a novelette. It would have been real interesting if had been nominated and later been found to not qualify.--swfritter 21:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, there are provisions in the Hugo/Nebula eligibility rules for moving "close cases" around, e.g. if the same writer has another work eligible the same year and doesn't want to compete against himself the way Silverberg did in the Novel category in 1973. Ahasuerus 22:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Unverified F&SF issues

There are only a few that do not have a primary verification - great!! I apparently forget to check verification for October 1956. Is it possible the same is true for you with August 1967? December 1981, May 1985, December 2000, and April through June 2008 are not verified. Some issues from 2008/2009 have not been entered!! I have four more issues of Galaxy to do (hurray!) and I guess it would be a good little project to clean these up.--swfritter 20:02, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll go back and check, I'm missing at least one of those issues. I can verify/enter some of the 2008/2009 issues if no one else is going to do it.--Rkihara 07:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I can do the 2008/2009. I've just gotten through the Galaxy run - except the second revival and don't want to get started on any projects. Luckily all the editors who worked on Galaxy previously did a terrific job; all the reviews were done and there were very few errors. Most of the work involved adding multiple art and trying to make things a little more consistent. I can get the earlier issue you don't have.--swfritter 20:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Verified my unverified issue and started verifying unverified issue and entering missing issues. After having learned from bitter experience I checked first to see if the August 2008 issue was in the system - and sure enough it was, although in a slightly mangled state because the data was entered from site/downloadable issue data. Let me know when you figure out which issue you don't have.--swfritter 01:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I took care of 08/1967, all of the rest are missing from my collection. May 1985 was already verified by me, did you mean May 1988? If so, I'm missing that issue too.-Rkihara 17:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I probably meant May 1988 but I typed May 1985. The current issues go really fast - until it's book review time. Graphic novels, comix, music cds, novels, mainstream novels, etc. F&SF still seems to want to prove they are hip - sometimes I think they should have called it The Magazine of Fantasy and Anti-Science-Fiction.--swfritter 01:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Got my three issues done. There is still some potential work for somebody. I don't think all of the verifiers entered cartoons - and I don't think anybody entered the Coming Attractions column; should be nearly 700 of them for some industrious editor.--swfritter 22:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I entered Coming Attractions for most of the nineties, when it filled a whole page, but in years when the column was less than a half page long I didn't feel it worth noting. I'm seeing the same thing now in the Next Issue column as I enter the 1985 Asimov's. I've decided to enter these for completeness, as the column has been at least a page in length for over twenty years.-Rkihara 00:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
In many cases for other mags I have not entered them either although when I went through Galaxy I did all the Forecast entries. Such essays sometimes have biographical/bibliographical data although usually of minor significance. I really see no compelling reason to put them in a series. I am going to try to make it my responsibility to enter new issues of F&SF; it is the only paper subscription I a have - everything else I get is electronic. We really should not get behind on the new issues of current mags. Perhaps you could make it a priority to do one of the other mags? Asimov's? Maybe someone else will volunteer for Analog.--swfritter 21:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I think somebody is actually keeping Asimov's up to date. It looks like Analog could use a committed editor.--swfritter 22:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

F&SF, November 1974

I've placed two submissions on hold for you to look at. Also seethis discussion. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Peter Phillips as a pen name

Your approvals of changes in the title records making all of Peter Phillips stories as by Howard Browne has prompted a discussion you might find interesting. Thanks. MHHutchins 20:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, Fall 1998

Can you shed any light on why Amazing Stories, Fall 1998 has "The Observatory: You Might Live Forever" as a variant of itself? Is this a case where a "The Editor" entry or suchlike was adjusted back to real author without considering if the variant existed? (It's no trouble to fix, just merge both versions and DON'T keep the parent ID, and ignore the big yellow warning - but I'm wondering why it occurred in the first place.) BLongley 23:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Not quite sure, but I took care of it. My approach is to set the parent to "0" and then delete the orphan created by this. Thanks for the notice.-Rkihara 04:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Amazing, January & September 1969

I wonder if "Lawrence Janifer" in this issue and this one could be the same person as the more popular "Laurence M. Janifer". Is there any internal evidence that might connect the two? And here he is doing the same sort of essay in an earlier issue of Fantastic, but using "Laurence". Thanks. MHHutchins 05:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

For the January issue, it's "Lawrence Janifer" in the ToC and on the title page. The September issue has "Laurence Janifer" in the ToC, and "Laurence M. Janifer" on the title page. Both columns are film reviews, so it's probably the same person. I made the correction to the September issue, and will leave any changes to January for you.-Rkihara 05:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

F&SF December 91 - Catwings Review and Amazing July 1975 The Farthest Shore Review

I amended the notes and contents of F&SF Dec. 1991 and Amazing July 1975 to change the attributed author of Catwings, Catwings Return, and The Farthest Shore to 'Le Guin' instead of 'LeGuin' to remove a phantom Author. All three titles are verified in one pub or another as by 'Le Guin' and no other work, or verified pub but these two magazines refers to 'LeGuin' (excepting a few Critical Titles). Please re-check your pubs and if it's actually spelled with a space please remove my notes. - Thanks Kevin 19:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I left these on hold for Ron. Works for me but I will let Ron approve them - it looks like he has been active recently.--swfritter 20:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Spelled "LeGuin" in both reviews. Approved submissions.--Rkihara 21:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Kevin 22:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

F&SF, November 1965

Could you check the contents of this pub for the Zelazny entry? I am editing The Collected Stories of Roger Zelazny vol.2, which contains "... And Call Me Conrad" as a serial. According to this book, the November 1965 issue of F&SF has the second part, but it should also contain a sepatate entry called "Synopsis of Part One". I have entered this as a short story in Power & Light, and will make a note about the first publication in F&SF. Thanks Willem H. 09:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

There is a synopsis of a little over two pages, under the heading "Synopsis:"--Rkihara 16:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Asimov's December 2000 Review of Tiptree's 'Meet Me at Infinity'

Your verified pub Asimovs December 2000 attributed the work 'Meet Me at Infinity' in a review to James Tiptree, but the work is linked to Tiptree, Jr. - Since this work was never published without the Jr., could you check and see if it's a typo that needs fixing, or if Asimov's left off the Jr. - If they left it off, I would like to amend the review to add the Jr. and put a note in the Asimovs pub record that we changed it to avoid creating a phantom author. - Thoughts? - Thanks Kevin 04:50, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

The book was reviewed as by "James Tiptree" without the "Jr." It's not a typo, but due to the informal reviewing style used by di Filippo. Go ahead and make the changes.-Rkihara 05:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Kevin 05:49, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Stray Robert Coulson Reviews

I've been cleaning up and linking reviews and I've come across two stray Robert Coulson reviews from 1985. Since you have verified the Amazing Stories from that date range I thought you might be the one to ask. The two reviews Dragonsongs and Bill Maraschiello's Magnetic Elixir both have no publication record (For the review). Both are for Filk and similar material, recorded, and not for a printed item. I've already added a brief record for Dragonsongs but haven't yet for Bill Maraschiello's Magnetic Elixir (But I did find a complete track listing [online]). Do you recall if you at some point had these reviews in an Amazing issue and then later removed them from the pub? Do you think we should delete them or put them back into the appropriate magazines (Or if need be, just let them float until we can determine where they need to go)? While possible amateurish, they do seem somewhat noteworthy. - Thanks Kevin 15:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I also found evidence that Magnetic Elixir was in the Jan 85 issue in a google [search] but the link is dead and the indexed preview is all thats there]]. Kevin 16:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I believe the rule is not to enter either music or reviews of music, although I can't find the reference right now. Accordingly, I've left out all reviews of music in pubs I've verified.--Rkihara 22:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Based on your reply I went digging in the Wiki and found some discussions which support your exclusion. I will delete the new pub I added, and I will also delete the stray reviews as I find them. Thanks Kevin 00:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Another thought was to enter reviews of non-printed material as Essays. There doesn't appear to be a standard form of title though, see the page of Nick Lowe for instance. Sometimes it's just a description of the column, sometimes the titles of the films reviewed are added: and in some cases people have merged several 'essays' of the same title (but different content) just to keep the clutter down. I quite like to know what type of review column it is, some people might like to know about which films were reviewed, not a lot care about filk. But they shouldn't be called Book Reviews. (Which is a misnomer within ISFDB as you can link to Magazines and Fanzines too.) BLongley 18:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Asimov's Jan. 2000 Review: Almost Everyman's Guide to Science

The verified pub Asimovs Jan 2000 lists the authors of Almost Everyman's Guide to Science as 'Gribbon' when the actual pub is written by 'Gribbin'. I have updated the magazine with a note that we editorialy corrected the review. When you get a chance, please check the pub. If the pub actually lists 'Gribbin' we can remove the note. Thanks Kevin 03:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It is "Gribbin", the error was mine. I'll leave the note changes to you.-Rkihara 06:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Note removal submitted. Thanks! Kevin 00:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
In doing a last bit of cleanup.. I noticed that the review title is "Everyman's" while the published books are "Everyone's". Could you make one last double check on this one please? - Thanks Kevin 00:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Complete issue of 1930 issue of Astounding on Project Gutenberg

Maybe if more of these show up we can save some collecting money for issues we don't own or reduce the wear and tear on issues we do own. It is pretty well documented in our entry.--swfritter 22:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I have several boxes of pulps that have little value because of their condition, so I could break them apart and scan them without guilt before tossing them out. The only thing holding me back is the uncertainty about the copyrights. Gutenberg seems to be skirting the edge with a lot of the SF stuff that it's listed, though I feel they are doing a public service by putting this stuff online. One can imagine librarians of the future tantalized by ISFDB entries (which survived by being open source) of stories that no longer exist. I had a Xerox Documate at work that would scan 14 pages a minute, single or double-sided in one pass, with OCR, so it would be possible for a group like ours to scan and OCR every magazine that we own in a reasonable time.--Rkihara 15:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
It is also happening at Google Books. Distributed Proofreaders are the ones most responsible for the PG s-f material. It's possible you could just make a donation of the issues or provide scans although, as bad as it is, you may want to save some of the artwork. I did some proofreading there a few years ago before I had an LCD monitor and probably should do a little more.--swfritter 17:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
The Google Books site indicates that scanning SF magazines could be pretty dicey regarding copyrights, and I seem to recall that there were legal problems with the Street & Smith publications. I suppose if I provided scans and someone else posted the material I might be legally fire-walled. I checked the Xerox site and now their mid-priced scanner (~$600), the 162 is rated at 50 ppm double-sided. At that speed pages from older mags might survive one pass, not to mention the problem of paper flakes in the scanner. Flatbed scanning would be too tedious for me.
I've been informally proofreading Haffner's collected Jack Williamson series, and I'm compiling lists of errata for the published books. He's threatened to send me pre-publication copies, but that would be too much like work.--Rkihara 18:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I know Blackmask got in big trouble for The Shadow and Doc Savage which were still under copyright to Street & Smith. I would think that the subsequent publishers of Astounding/Analog acquired the copyrights. I think most copyrights revert to the author now but the contracts written in the past, seem to have been a mixed bag. PG is now also including artwork and I kind of wonder who owned the copyrights for those. In many cases there isn't anybody left to complain even if the works are technically under copyright.--swfritter 18:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, March 1993

Regarding your verified F&SF March 1993 - is the story on page 25 Schrodinger's Cathouse or Schrödinger's Cathouse? If it's the "ö" version then you can use this to pull up the records and to merge them otherwise we should add a note that it's with "o" in one publication and "ö" in another. --Marc Kupper|talk 06:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

It's an "o" with a diaeresis on the title page, and without in the index and page headers. I've changed it to the diaeresis and made the merge. One of my favorite stories.--Rkihara 16:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Jack Dann's Visitors

Please read this comment on Swfritter's page when you get a chance. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Do you have that issue of Fantastic? I don't have the Asimov's.--swfritter 00:34, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Just the opposite for me.--Rkihara 06:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
The second story (12 pages) seems to be twice as long as the first story (6 pages). I have actually seen cases where two unique stories by the same author had the same title. The story in Fantastic has the first line "It has been exactly four hours and twenty-five minutes since Sandra Left." There are characters named Roger and Sandra and there is a talking parakeet named Henry. Any similarities? Contento list the two versions as "Visitors [1]" and "Visitors [2]" which seems like a good solution if the stories are totally different. If the second story has been expanded the "The Vistors (expanded)" solution seems to make sense. The anthologized story appears to be the second version based upon length.--swfritter 17:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
From your description there's no doubt that the story in Asimov's is a different story. There are two major characters in this story, Charlie and Benjamin, Benjamin is a ghost. It opens, "After Benjamin died he came back to Charlie's room for a visit." Charlie is slowly dying, and Benjamin who became friends with Charlie in the hospital has come to wait with Charlie until the end. Ten pages long after subtracting a two-page illustration.--Rkihara 02:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I guess I should give the stories the old [1] [2] so they don't get merged again.--swfritter 13:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Let's hope it works this time. You'd think the warning in the notes would have been enough for a moderator to reject. I've scattered hundreds of DO NOT MERGE in title record notes. Now I have to wonder how many have been overlooked. :( MHHutchins 16:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Fixed. Of course, it had to be a case where a variant name, a broken link to locus1, and artwork were involved. The notes I put in this title and this title should be pretty hard to ignore.--swfritter 17:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
After thinking about it I went with parenthesis instead of brackets because we use brackets for multiple pieces of artwork. Also decided not to use the modifiers on the artwork since there is no confusion there.--swfritter 17:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Astounding June 1952

"The Specter General" from this issue is reprinted in Jim Baen's Universe ebook magazine and I was able to get an accurate word count of nearly 20,000 words.--swfritter 15:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!--Rkihara 00:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, July 1985 - Review of Valentina: Soul in Sapphire

Could you check the co-author spelling for 'Valentine: Soul in Sapphire' in the review from Amazing July 1985. The entry states a last name of 'Delany' for co-author, but we have the record in the database for the publication as 'Delaney' - I have changed the author in the review to 'Delaney', but if the publication states 'Delany' I can put a note in the publication that the there was a typo. Thanks - Kevin 05:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, it's Delaney.--Rkihara 15:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Kevin 15:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

F&SF November 1987 - Review: Divine Intervention by Julia Eklar

The review of Divine Intervention by Julia Eklar in this pub, is for a Filk CD, which is currently out by the RoA, but the Author has published a Variety of SpecFic under the name 'Ecklar' and Amazon lists this CD under that name. Could you please check your copy to see if it's a typo in the database or a typo in the magazine? - Thanks Kevin 03:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I have a copy of the Filk CD, and IIRC the name was Ecklar on it. I don't know what it was in the review as published. -DES Talk 13:38, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank's for the notice, it's Ecklar. Music is out, so I should delete the entry.--Rkihara 15:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Or perhaps convert it to an essay, in case we do implement non-linking reviews, as is now being discussed. -DES Talk 16:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Removing or Not adding reviews

Ron - It came up in a discussion on Michaels talk page User_talk:Mhhutchins#Science_Fiction_Eye.2C_July_1989_-_Review_of:_Brought_to_Life:_A_Graphic_Docudrama about the practice of removing or leaving out reviews for items that are out (And not documenting them in an essay). When digging through the wiki, I found several historical discussion that you participated in, and I linked to those. Per Michaels suggestion, I am moving the ensuing discussion to the Rules and Standards board Rules_and_standards_discussions#Entering_Reviews_of_items_that_are_not_.27Books.27_or_.27Magazines.27, and wanted to both point you towards it, and let you know that I'm not complaining about your practice, only the practice. It was just unfortunate that my research seems to have pointed out what you've done, and I apologize for not taking the time to find a better variety of examples. Please come discuss, and help us tie down this issue. Thanks Kevin 23:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Planet Stories, July 1952

I added a cover photo to your verified pub: PLANETJUL1952. --Phileas 18:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem. There's no need to notify me if you add a cover photo, although I would like to know if you alter the contents.--Rkihara 22:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Review of 'Cloud Chamber' in F&SF Sept. 2004

Your pub F7SF Sept. 2004 in a review lists the Author of 'Cloud Chamber' as 'Howard Myers'. I believe this should be "Howard L. Myers". Could you please check that issue when you get a chance? I've already changed the review with a note in the publication "The review of Cloud Chamber, was originally published crediting Cloud Chamber as written by 'Howard Myers'. It has been entered here as by 'Howard L. Myers' in order to avoid creating a false pseudonym." If after checking your magazine issue, if the typo was in the database and not in the magazine we can remove the note. Thanks Kevin 03:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The author is credited as "Howard Myers" in the review. A Google search of the title turned up this image which confirms that the book was authored under "Howard L. Myers." I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence?--Rkihara 17:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I think that Kevin meant that if an entry error had been made here, and the review actually credited 'Howard L. Myers', there was no need for a note to say that it credited 'Howard Myers' but we changed it to the name actually used on the book. Whereas given that the review credited him without an L, but the book apparently used an L, at least on the cover, the note is needed. -DES Talk 17:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
DES explained my intent clearer than I did. Thanks! Kevin 17:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Schomberg or Schomburg

Found that my "autospell" feature has been creating a false pseudonym for Alex Schomburg. Managed to cure all the ones I could get references to but can't do that with magazines. [This] is one. Can you check, please? I think there are only four left to check and they are all magazines. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. It's Schomburg, fixed.--Rkihara 23:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Raineses' or Rainses'?

Hi. Could you double-check if Nisi Shawl's story in the April 1995 Asimov's is spelled "The Rainses'"? On her webpage and in her collection "Filter House" it is listed as "The Raineses'" Cheers. Jonschaper 01:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

It's "The Rainses'" on the title page, footer, index, and within the text. It's possible she may have altered the title in the time since it was published in Asimov's.--Rkihara 13:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

The Vintage Anthology of Science Fiction (?)

When you get a chance, could you please double check whether your verified The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, September 1966 reviewed Christopher Cerf's "The Vintage Anthology of Science Fiction" or "The Vintage Anthology of Science Fantasy"? I suspect that the former is in error as I can't find any other references to it. TIA! Ahasuerus 17:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The title given in the review was "The Vintage Anthology of Science Fiction," Vintage Books, 1966, 307 pp., 20 stories plus biographical notes, $1.65. ABEbooks lists two books under that title, but I think you're right about it being in error. Hope that helps.--Rkihara 19:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I'll check my Science Fantasy copy tonight and see if the contents elements match, thanks! Ahasuerus 19:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
The description matches my copy of "The Vintage Anthology of Science Fantasy" perfectly, so I will change the Review link and notes to the affected pubs. Thanks for checking! Ahasuerus 03:01, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

F&SF for August 1999 ("The Girl Who Ate the Butterflies")

Can you check the title of the story by M. Rickert in this issue of F&SF? I'm holding a submission that wants to change it to "The Girl Who Ate Butterflies". Thanks. MHHutchins 04:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

A mistake on my part. "The Girl Who Ate Butterflies," is correct.--Rkihara 15:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Phillip or Philip?

Hi, can you doulbe-check if Jennings' name is spelled "Philip" or "Phillip" here? His name is properly spelled with 2 ls, and I'd like to see if we can get rid of the 1 l variant. Thanks Jonschaper 03:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I've corrected it, it is spelled "Phillip" with two ls. Thanks!--Rkihara 16:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Credit for Brin's story in F&SF

Can you re-check to see if Daniel Brin is credited as co-author of "A Stage of Memory" in F&SF December 1986? Thanks. MHHutchins 22:55, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Brin is credited as a co-author, and is identified in the editor's note as David's brother, a thirty-year old newspaperman living in Los Angeles.--Rkihara 23:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Club House vs Clubhouse

Hi, could you check if the title in this publication is "Club House" or "Clubhouse"? The latter title appears to be the series' name. Thanks Jonschaper 01:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I sort of recall that. The original column by Rog Phillips in late-forties, early-fifties Amazing was titled "The Club House." When it was restarted in the early seventies, it was titled "The Club House" in the index, and "The Clubhouse" on the title page and footer (that's the case in the May 1975 Amazing). I gave priority to the earlier form so that we wouldn't end up with two series of columns, one a variant of the other. I saw similar things in other magazines, where the variants would flip back and forth depending on the proofreader.--Rkihara 05:56, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

"A Day in the Life of Justin Argento Morrell"

Hi, could you double check if the titular name in Gregory Frost's story is "Morrel" or "Morrell" here Thanks Jonschaper 02:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, you've been busy. I'll be going to bed late tonight. The titular name appears in the index, title page, and footer as "Morrel," but the credit for the cover illustration gives the name as "Morrell." Under our rules it should be "Morrel." I've made the correction, thanks!--Rkihara 06:57, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Claim-Jumpin' Woman, You Got A Stake in My Heart

Hi, could you double check the title here I'm checking if it is a variant of "Claim-Jumpin' Woman Got a Stake in My Heart" Thanks Jonschaper 02:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The title is given in the index and first page as "Claim-Jumpin' Woman, You Got A Stake in My Heart."--Rkihara 07:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Too much extra time at work. Thanks for all the checks! Jonschaper 22:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

How to Make a Unicorn Pie

Checking another variant: Can you double check "How to Make a Unicorn Pie"? I note the cover dispenses with the "a" Thanks Jonschaper 02:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's "How to Make Unicorn Pie." Corrected entry, thanks again.--Rkihara 07:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

"Sweet, Savage Sorceror" by Friesner

Can you check to see how this story is titled in the January 1990 issue of Amazing? I had a submission which wanted to merge it with Sweet, Savage Sorcerer which I accepted before realizing that you had verified it as "Sweet, Savage Sorceror". I changed it back and await your response. Thanks. MHHutchins 03:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

It's given as "Sweet, Savage Sorcerer," in index, on title page, and footer. Corrected, thanks!--Rkihara 07:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Wild Boys by Karen Joy Fowler in F&SF, March 1986

Can you see if the story by Karen Joy Fowler in F&SF March 1986 has the subtitle: "Variations on a Theme"? I have a submission on hold which wants to create a variant of it. Thanks. MHHutchins 05:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

There's no subtitle.--Rkihara 07:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Friedman story in F&SF November 1960

Can you see if the title of the story by Friedman in this issue of F&SF has a comma after "Yes"? It was reprinted in two different F&SF anthologies with the comma. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:30, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Checked index, title page, and header, there is no comma.--Rkihara 03:43, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. Looks like a variant is called for. Also thanks for checking the two mags above. MHHutchins 16:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Elliot vs Elliott

Hi, please see Jonschaper 23:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Riddles of Science in August 1940 Amazing Stories

In your verified Amazing Stories, August 1940 are two "Riddles of Science: Mystery of the Sunspots" essays, one by uncredited, the other by Sewell, both on p. 99. Judging by the pattern of titles, I'm guessing the uncredited one should probably be INTERIORART? --MartyD 01:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It's the other way around. The essays were mostly uncredited, while Sewell's signature was always visible on the illustrations. It's possible that Sewell wrote the essay too, but there's no evidence of that. Entry corrected, thanks!--Rkihara 02:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Will vs Wil Creveling

Hi, please double check if "Stitch Stich Stich" here is credited to Will or Wil. Thanks Jonschaper 04:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It's "Wil Creveling." Entry corrected. I'm impressed, I suppose that what I'm seeing here is only a tiny part of the cleanup work you're doing.--Rkihara 05:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Jonschaper 06:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm amazed myself. I come across these only by stumbling on them while doing something else, but Jonschaper has been finding hundreds of them. Let is in on the secret and we'll share it with other editors who are in-between projects. I'm beginning to think of you as our "Cleaner" (as in someone who knows where the bodies are hidden.) A couple of days there I suspected you were a robot that Bill Longley had wrote. Then you finally started talking. Even Fixer can't do that. Great work! Keep it up. MHHutchins 06:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
LOL No big secret. I have one of those jobs that is either full on craziness or periods of stretched out boredom (the two balance out). Since I can't bring tons of books with me to work (half of them still haven't made the move from Canada to Australia at any rate) and I wouldn't look very productive in front of other workers (who have more steady workloads) reading paperbacks, I can thankfully fill some of my spare time by using my computer to compare my own spreadsheet of my collection (arranged by author vs by publication) against what's on the ISFDB, checking whatever I can against Locus etc. Since I'm doing it by author instead of by publication, I come across duplicates, variants in names, missing series references, etc. In this case, looking up Creveling because he's on my spreadsheet since he's in one or more of the publications in my collection I would come across both "Will" and "Wil" in the search results and check Locus. Sometimes it's tedious or less reliable than I'd like, and sometimes I have to take notes about what to dig up when I get home, but it fills up time. As I've become more familiar with procedures here, I'm also trying to be less dependent on editors (contacting verifiers myself more often). On the weekends I sometimes also go through a few of my publications too, which helps catch missing cartoon references, hard to read artist credits, etc, and I should be able to add some more original content (e.g. some books in Stephen Jone's Fantasy Tales series) eventually but since I'm usually busy with other things (including actually reading my books) on the weekend when I have access to them that'll be really slow going. Cheers Jonschaper 00:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
PS, which Cleaner would I be? Jean Reno in La Femme Nikita, Harvey Keitel in Point of No Return, or Harvey Keitel in Pulp Fiction? Jonschaper 05:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

"A Little Girl's Christmas in Moderania"

Hi, can you check if Bunch's story is "Moderan" or "Moderania" here It should either be merged or become a variant of this Thanks Jonschaper 02:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I assume that "Moder(a)nia" is a typo. It's spelled "Modernia," on the cover, index, illustration credit, title page, and header.--Rkihara 05:23, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! It looks like Bumch hadn't settled on the name of his future civilisation yet. Jonschaper 23:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

The Year of the Quiet Sun - added cover/cover artist & credit/notation

Morning! This. [1]. I added a cover image, [2], added cover artist & crediting, and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Astounding Science-Fiction, April 1942

"Probability Zero! (Astounding, April 1942)", which is attributed to L. Sprague de Camp, Malcolm Jameson and George E. Dale in your verified Astounding Science-Fiction, April 1942 is now a variant title and the main title is attributed to de Camp, Jameson and Isaac Asimov since George E. Dale was an occasional Asimov pseudonym. Ahasuerus 20:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Original publication date of "Funk" by John W. Vandercook

Re : Although the reprint in the November 1960 F&SF lists it as copyright 1930, the Harper's Magazine archives show that it was published in September 1929: Cheers Jonschaper 03:15, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Corrected, Thanks!--Rkihara 04:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Cheers. I'll submit a notation that it appeared in Harper's. Jonschaper 23:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Andre Norton: Fables and Futures

It would appear that you may have created a Non-fiction record for Andre Norton: Fables and Futures based on Paul Di Filippo's review in Asimov's Science Fiction, February 2002. According to OCLC 21941083, Norton is not credited and the book credits Anne Janet Braude (possibly the same as "our" Anne Braude and Anne J. Braude) as the editor. OCLC also states that there were two editions, the first one by Niekas Publications in 1989 and then a reprint by Borgo Press in 1990. Ahasuerus 04:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

No author was credited in the review, so I probably assumed it was by Norton. From other sources it's a collection of essays, Anne J. Braude, editor. Fixed, thanks!--Rkihara 06:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Ed M. Clinton stories

We have a new editor who noticed that these stories by Ed M. Clinton belong to this author. I double checked my copies to save you the time and they are all credited correctly as Ed M. Clinton. The new editor knows how to do pseudonyms so I think we can leave it to him. Thanks.--swfritter 19:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The pseudonym processing has been done by the new editor.--swfritter 14:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Okay. Interesting to see how pseudonyms are edited now.--Rkihara 19:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Being unable to undo pseudonym attributions at the author level and locking merged titles within a pub are on the top ten list of great ISFDB fixes.--swfritter 21:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

date on "Gödel's Doom" in F&SF?

In your verified March '86 F&SF, the date on "Gödel's Doom" is the date of the magazine (1986-03-00), but the Locus content listing for that issue, and also for Mathenauts cites it as first appearing in the February 1985 Popular Computing. Can you confirm from your copy one way or the other? Thanks. --MartyD 02:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Your references are correct, it is copyrighted on the bottom of the page, 1985, reprinted from Popular Computing. Fixed. Thanks for the notification.--Rkihara 06:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Astounding October 1951

"The Head Hunters" in this pub was incorrectly entered with a hyphen. Changed and merged with anthologized version.--swfritter 13:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, July 1955

Could you please check the title of W. Finch's cartoon in Amazing Stories, July 1955? The current title is garbled and it's hard to tell what expletive substitution was used. TIA! Ahasuerus 02:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much typed as written. An inverted question mark, followed by an ampersand, a leaning, reversed "3" (which I thought was a "c," a "t", and finally another inverted question mark. I don't think that hinting at the expletive started until the nineties.--Rkihara 03:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for checking! What does the character immediately before "landing" look like to you? My browser displays it as   and the internal database value is &#12288, apparently an obscure HTML code. Ahasuerus 03:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Not sure how that character got entered, but it looked like a blank space to me (I just removed it). Feel free to replace the string with something more to your liking. I entered it the way it was written, because I could.--Rkihara 05:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Looks good, thanks! Ahasuerus 02:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Date of "Marsprobe" in Nov 1982 Amazing Science Fiction?

Any chance the date for Tymon's Marsprobe in your verified Amazing Science Fiction, November 1982 could be 1978? See this other Marsprobe from The Anthology of Speculative Poetry #3. --MartyD 11:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

There's no prior publication date credited. There has been one case to my knowledge where an author reused a title, so this is probably the same poem. Maybe this will help; there are two stanzas of twelve and five lines respectively. The first line is "The manless wandering in deep space," and the last, "dust falling in empty halls."--Rkihara 16:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
That's the same poem in TASP #3. I've merged the two records. Thanks. MHHutchins 04:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Alex Schombrug

Hi, I believe I've located a typo of Schomburg's name here: Cheers Jonschaper 02:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for the notification.--Rkihara 03:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Ferdinand Feghoot in Amazing Stories, July 1987

In your verified Amazing Stories, July 1987 is Through Time and Space With Ferdinand Feghoot: iota. This is set up as the sole variant of 88887, originally "...: l" (lowercase "L"), which I've submitted a change to be "...: I" (uppercase "i"). But I'm wondering if this is really the 9th one and the "...: iota" one should be made a variant of ...: IX instead, making 88887 and its indistinguishable trailing letter superfluous. None of the others with the spelled-out Greek letters has been put in the series or made a variant of any of the Roman-numbered titles. What do you think? --MartyD 13:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I stand semi-corrected. There's another series in which some of the Greek-lettered ones appear, some set up as variants of titles with trailing lower-case Latin letters. So maybe what I just changed to uppercase "I" should be changed to lowercase "i" and moved from Through Time and Space With Ferdinand Feghoot to Through Time and Space With Ferdinand Feghoot (3)? --MartyD 13:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
This is a distinct series using the Greek letters, alpha, beta, gamma, and so on, as identifiers. The person who originally entered the series used the closest visual match from the English alphabet. In pubs that I verified, I replaced it with the names of the Greek letters, since the database tended to react strangely sometimes to characters from other languages.--Rkihara 16:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I see. I will change the parent to use "iota" and move it to the other series. I'll take a look at the other ones in that series (3), too. Some of the variants are also to oddball Latin letters/characters that probably should follow your spelled-out lead. --MartyD 11:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)