User talk:Possidente

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I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Annie 03:37, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, March/April 2020

Thanks for adding this one. Wonderful job (especially for a magazine - they can be... interesting). A few small changes after the approval

  • Cleared a couple capitalization issues: MArch -> March; is -> Is;
  • Added the incomplete template - as we are missing the essays and the reviews and anything else besides the stories. That way we know there is more to be added.
  • Fixed the name of S. L. Huang based on the DB standards and on how we have the name here.

The result is here. Please do not hesitate to ask any questions you may have. Welcome again! Annie 03:43, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

Thanks! The nonfiction sections are loaded, so I saved them for another session.
How should I enter the science column? It's not a story, not a review, not an interview.
Essay :) Any non fiction content inside of a magazine that is not an interview or a review is added as an essay Annie 11:50, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
A small trick. When you have two pieces of contents on the same page, you can use a sorting order to tell the DB their exact order. This is done with a | - for example 69|69.6. The number before | is shown on the screen, the number after the | is used for the sorting :) When you have just a page number (69), it is treated as 69|69 - we show and sort with the same number. Annie 13:24, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
Can you also check the spelling of the review of "The Mercy of Snake"? Is it "The Mercy of Snake" or "The Mercy of Snakes"? Annie 13:24, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
Thank you. I rechecked, and it is "Snake" (singular).
The 6 Dean Koontz novellas are all discussed in one review, not separately. I can number them according to how they're listed in the magazine.
I fixed the numbering for you. For that review - then you will need to connect it manually because the title is different. Do you want to try to connect and let me know if you are not sure how? :) Annie 14:00, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
I also added the "Curiosities" column as a review, although it's really more of a digging up of old, interesting books. This one, for example, was published in 1932. If it should be an essay, let me know. Thanks!
We usually add it as both - two items for that single column in the magazine. See this as a good pattern of adding the different elements. Some of the latest issues need some work (I've added it to my TODO list... unless you want to try to fix the January issue? :)
A few more housekeeping/helpful things for this page:
  • You can sign your name by using ~~~~
  • Use an additional : for each answer to create a ladder in the conversation - I just added these to this one so you can see how it works - it makes it easier to track who says what and when
  • Instead of hitting edit at the top of the page, use the Edit next to the item name. While your page is almost empty, it does not matter much but when you have a lot of conversations, that will help lead you directly to the answer when you click on the link.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask here or on my page or on one of the Community boards. Annie 14:16, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

More thanks. It's been a while since I worked in a wiki. Still getting back up to speed. I used the January/February issue listing as a learning tool. No wonder I got so much wrong. Ha. Possidente 16:58, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

Nothing was really wrong - just incomplete :) You did very well - magazines tend to be very confusing (when you add your first novel here, you will see just how much easier it is). I will let you finish the work on this one - do let me know if I can assist or if you want me to finish some of the tasks (link the unlinked reviews, add things to their regular series and so on). Annie 17:02, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
I have not been able to find how to connect the individual reviews to the essay that contains them. Is that explained somewhere? Possidente 17:11, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
You do not need to do that (and there is no way to do "contains" between essays/reviews - you just list them one after another. You can add a note on the essay record with a list of the reviews but it is not mandatory.
The unlinked review I am talking about is the ones like "The Mercy of Snake" for example - see how it is not a link? To link that, click on the word Review and look on the left menu for "Link Review to Title". You will need to find the story this one (you need the story, not the chapbook) and use its IDs to connect. If the book being reviewed is missing, it will need to be added before being linked. This manual linking is needed in 2 cases: when the title on the review and on the book differ and when the book is simply missing when the review is added. Hope this makes sense:) Annie 17:31, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
Thanks. I think I got it done. For the other unlinked one, there's no entry yet for the book.Possidente 18:12, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
There are two unlinked -- the Curiosity one and this one. Would you like to try adding the books? If not, I can do it later :) Annie 18:22, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

(unindent)For the cartoons, we do not just say "Cartoon", we copy the text of the cartoon - see the cartoon section. I will approve them this way for now but they need fixing. And one more small thing. When the essay name is generic (Introduction, Books to Look For (same title, multiple issues), we append the issue title to the title of the essay so we can differenciate them on the author page (imagine this page with 232 essays all called "Books to Look For" :) I fixed these after approval. The Curiosity essay often has a title (see the series so you may want to change that as well) :) Annie 17:44, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

Done--I think. Possidente 18:12, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
Perfect. I removed the incomplete (As it is not now) and the disambiguation from Curiosity - it is now a unique title. The only thing remaining besides the 2 reviews is to add the essays to their respective titles. In order to do that, you open each essay, edit and add a series into the Title record (you can see the proper series names in the other issue I linked above) :) Or I can do that if you prefer. Annie 18:22, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
Added a Series to the appropriate essays. (I think I got them all.)
The Films one also needed it :) Fixed that. A question about "Coming Attractions" - is it explicitly credited to Finlay or is it unsigned/uncredited? Annie 13:38, 28 May 2020 (EDT)
Thanks! I'd meant to go back and fix Coming Attractions and forgotten.
I've tried adding the two missing books. I have cover scans, but will wait to upload and add them until the records exist.
because I haven't figured out a good way of doing that beforehand. Possidente 13:49, 28 May 2020 (EDT)
It is always a two step process :) Annie 13:50, 28 May 2020 (EDT)

Forgot to answer re: fixing the Jan/Feb listing. I'd be happy to, after I get this one done (and feel like I have some vague notion of how this all works)--in the little bits of time between work and writing and life stuff. Possidente 13:06, 29 May 2020 (EDT)

Public Faces

New book, new thread - the other one got crowded. I will have to reject this one because we already have the book. The reason the review did not connect was that you had misspelled the author name initially. Once you fixed it, the author was now correct but the automatic linking only runs on initial creation. So you can link the same way you did with Koontz yesterday.

If I had approved it, I would have made the following changes:

  • We do not record "A Novel" as part of the title
  • The publisher goes by "Constable & Co. Ltd." :) Annie 13:55, 28 May 2020 (EDT)
Meanwhile I Know What I Saw is approved and just needed a cover and a small price format adjustment. Now you can link both reviews. Thanks for working on these!
Ah, I realized you have a scan - just upload it and replace the Amazon link if you wish :) Annie 14:00, 28 May 2020 (EDT)
My "scan" was a downloaded and resized version of the graphic from another bookseller site. It's probably better to retain the Amazon link. (?) Possidente 18:43, 28 May 2020 (EDT)
Either works. :) Annie 19:56, 28 May 2020 (EDT)

One more question: The two unlinked titles have remained unlinked. I didn't link the Koontz; it just happened (shrug). Is there a way to cause them to auto-link or manually link them? Possidente 13:04, 29 May 2020 (EDT)

Oops... I think I did that one and then forgot... let's blame the gremlins :) They need to be linked manually. Click on the word Review and look on the left menu for "Link Review to Title". You want to title record of the book, not the publication one - so for "I Know What I Saw", it is 2731533 for example Annie 13:22, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
Ack! Please ignore the first attempt. I accidentally used the Publication # not the Title #. Possidente 13:41, 30 May 2020 (EDT)
Happens to all of us :) You can cancel your own submission when that happens. Thanks for finishing this. :) Annie 21:28, 30 May 2020 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, January February 2020

Tried to correct and complete the entry. Possidente 19:33, 2 June 2020 (EDT)

Approved. Very good job with one small reminder:
Essays with the same name across issues need to have the issue name and number in brackets.
Would you like me to fix them or do you want to while fixing the series and the remaining unconnected reviews? :) Annie 19:49, 2 June 2020 (EDT)
Thanks! I did the essays, and I'll take a shot at the unconnected reviews. Series?
Yep - for the essays. Look at the March issue - you need to edit the title records and add the various series so they get grouped in the editor's pages and in their own series. Such as one. That can only be done after approval of the addition of the essays into the DB.
One thing I missed to mention earlier. "Monstress Volume Four: The Chosen" is a comics which makes it ineligible for addition to the DB based on our rules of acquisition. In this case we record the review as an essay with a title such as "Review of the Graphic Novel "Monstress Volume Four: The Chosen" by Marjorie Liu and Sana Takeda" or something to that effect. We cannot convert the review you added so you need two steps: 1. Remove title from the publication (left menu) to eject the review and one more editPub to add the essay in its place. Let me know if this does not make sense or if you want me to assist. Annie 22:09, 2 June 2020 (EDT)
PS: And check the order again - you have a cartoon and a review on page 101 for example -- which one is first? :) You fixed the order when the two elements were at the same part of the screen but these were not - so they got missed. Thanks for working on those! Annie 22:14, 2 June 2020 (EDT)
That is what I get for not checking this specific graphic novel which manages to squeeze in under one of the exceptions. Sorry. Still the note is valid for ineligible books. :) Annie 00:46, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
Okay, I think I got the Series added and the page number corrected and the reviews linked.
Look at the last page: you have both the essay and the review as 258. The review should be 258|258.1 so it always goes after the essay, regardless of how the site wants to order the two titles. Same for the review and essay on page 85, the ones on 94, the cartoon and review on 101 :) Annie 21:07, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
Sorry, life got in the way and I was away for a while. Did this entry get finished? Possidente 12:39, 11 July 2020 (EDT)
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