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Hereafter, and After

Thank you for your addition of Hereafter, and After. I approved it but have several questions:

Can you please double check the ISBN? 1–904619–87–8 was not recognized. Note - if the book states 1–904619–87–8 then that's fine as we want to record what the book states.
Could you please explain a binding of "pb, hc". Was, or will, the book be published with both bindings under the same ISBN?
You used a title type of CHAPTERBOOK - Is this a children's chapter-book or a chapbook? The problem is that ISFDB has the wrong text - it should be CHAPBOOK and I suspect you will want to use the a type of NOVEL.
This is the second entry for this publication - at the moment there are two title records and two publications that appear to be the same. Before merging these I'd want to understand if there are separate pb and hc publications.

To reply to this just click on the "talk" that is after my name. Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) 15:35, 20 Feb 2007 (CST)

I'm working from an arc pdf of the book, and these are the isbns listed:

Hardcover: 1–904619–87–8

Paperback: 1–904619–86–X

This is a stand-alone novella that is being issued simultaneously with both bindings, hardcover and trade paper. "Chapbook" might be closer to accurate than Chapterbook, but it was the closest thing in the list.

I think both listings for HEREAFTER, AND AFTER refer to the same publication, and probably should be merged unless each binding should have its own listing.

Ogresan Ogresan 10:02, 23 Feb 2007 (CST)

Thank you for the reply Ogresan. In ISFDB we have one title record for the story and then under that separate publication records for each binding and printing. Thus in the case of Hereafter, and After there should be one title listed on Richard%20Parks’ author page and underneath Hereafter, and After you would have three publication records, one for the hardcover, another for the paperback, and a third for the eBook. If, for example, the paperback were to go into a second printing, or get reprinted, then a forth publication record would get added to reflect this.

Here’s a set of procedural steps based on what I see. I’d like you to do the edits/merges as that’ll get you used to the process.

On Richard%20Parks’ author page I see two titles named Hereafter, and After. These should merged and also should be listed as novels, not Chapterbooks. There are two ways you can merge titles.
1. From the author display click on “Titles” in the left navbar, click/checkbox the two copies of Hereafter, and After, and click [Merge Selected Records].
2. Sometimes a author will have many stories and the titles method is not convenient. A second method is to use Advanced Search to look up the titles and you will also have the option to merge there.
Once the merge has been approved go back to Richard%20Parks’ page click on the remaining Hereafter, and After title and select “Edit Title Data” from the left navbar. Change the story type from CHAPTERBOOK to NOVEL. (note there is an ISFDB bug and the type will show as ANTHOLOGY – change it to NOVEL in either case). Save this using [Submit Data].
We don’t need to wait for moderator approval but go back to the Hereafter, and After title and edit the publications so that we have three records, one for each binding. There are already two records and so you can just edit those and then use clone-publication to create the third record. It would be nice if for the hardcover and paperback records that you add a note that the source of the record’s data is the ARC/PDF eBook edition so that if someone comes along with a physical copy of the hardcover or paperback, and the record does not match that physical copy, then they will know that it’s safe to correct the record and not that the record exists because there some other physical copy out there that does match what’s in ISFDB.

Also, did you copy/paste the ISBN from the eBook/PDF? I took a look into why the ISBN was not recognized and it turns out that you had entered the ISBN using en-dashes and not hypens. An en-dash looks like a hyphen that’s the width of the letter “N”. I'll put in a feature request for ISFDB to recognize en-dash and em-dash but for now can you please replace the existing dashes with hpyens (the minus sign)? Thank you.

1-904619-87-8 (with hyphens)
1–904619–87–8 (with en-dash)
1—904619—87—8 (with em-dash)

Marc Kupper (talk) 11:08, 23 Feb 2007 (CST)

The Long Look

Thank you for adding The Long Look. I saw that you entered the note "Publication Date: September 17, 2008". I changed the date from 2008-00-00 to 2008-09-17 as that's where we enter the printing date and also added a publication note giving the source of the data as presumably it's not from the publication itself.

When entering or updating a publication record pleaser add a note giving the source of the information if it's not from the physical publication. Thus reduces the chance of confusion down the road should, for example, the publisher decide to release this at a different price.

It's minor, but when using an Amazon image URL that has a "_SS500_." at the end I remove it. Here's the images for

I wrapped a border around both of them so you can see how the "_SS500_" version has extra margin padding so that it's a 500x500 pixel image. Marc Kupper (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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