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de Lint's "Leaves for MaryAnn"

What is meant by "[as Wendelessen]" in the title of the poem on page 25 of this publication? If de Lint uses that pseudonym in this collection, it should be credit that way in the author field, not in the title field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:41, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

A lot of de Lint's earlier poetry that he just wrote for MaryAnn he signed Wendelssen or some other, but this is the first time they've been printed and the [as Wendelssen] is in the title IN the book... Susan O'Fearna 03:38, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Realms of Fantasy, April 2011

In you verified 347419 could you please check artists' name on p.52, one too many "l" is suspected (Cyrill -> Cyril). Thank you, ForJohnScalzi 00:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

Finally had a chance to check it and you're right... changed it! Susan O'Fearna 19:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Uploading copyrighted artwork to the ISFDB server

Re this image file: It is against ISFDB policy and a copyright violation to upload artwork onto the ISFDB server. You can link an ISDFB title record to the image on another server (using the "Website" field), but you can not upload copyrighted material to our server. Once you've read this and acknowledge it, I will delete the image. If you can remember doing this in any other circumstance, please make a list of those files so that a moderator can delete them (non-moderators can't delete uploaded files.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I found another one. These are not the cover art files for a publication. They are the actual illustrations and already recorded in the database as INTERIORART records. You can link these interiorart records to Tor's website if you wish, but they will not be visible on the ISFDB record. See how it is handled on this piece's title record.

Similar situations have been brought to your attention in the past. You can only upload image files of the publication's cover. That is the only purpose for which we can claim "fair use" and protects us against charges of copyright violation. Please respect the artist's rights and their legally protected property. Mhhutchins 03:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

These are the images directly downloaded from tor.com, so I suppose they're the ones getting me in trouble ^_^ Susan O'Fearna 21:39, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Tales of Mystery and Terror

Hi Susan. I have your proposed clone of Tales of Mystery and Terror on hold. There are two problems:

  • You can't have the publication's author credit disagree with the title's author credit. So if you want to have a dual-credited collection, you'd need to make a new collection, not clone a single-author collection.
  • If you want to credit the collection to the combination of authors, you really should be doing the same with each of the stories (the authorship of the collection is by virtue of the authorship of the contained stories). So, again, clone wouldn't be appropriate, as that's creating references to the single-author-credited stories.

Also, did you mean to make the new additional author be Katz (the reducer/simplifier) instead of Vogel (the editor)? Collection editors are not credited as authors, but rather are cited in the notes. On the assumption you meant Katz:

If you don't agree with the crediting for the one you've cloned, you should try to work that out with MLB before cloning it. I tried looking at Amazon's Look Inside to see if I could help. Unfortunately, they show a different one (from Puffin), so it's hard for me to tell. What I'd suggest is looking at the title page and the interior title pages for the stories. If they're credited there solely to Poe, then you should go with that and keep the information about Katz in the notes.

If you really meant to try to credit Vogel, then I can accept the submission and remove that -- the rest of it would be ok as-is. Let me know. Thanks. --MartyD 02:48, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Susan, any feedback on this? I still have that submission on hold. Thanks. --MartyD 12:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
I gave up. I accepted the submission and removed the Vogel credit from the pub (Vogel's editorship is cited in the notes). --MartyD 14:54, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Seize the Night

Hello, Susan! I shortened the publisher to just 'RB Large Print', the one by which we already have books in the database. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 15:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:35, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

The Ladies of Grace Adieu and Other Stories

In your verified The Ladies of Grace Adieu and Other Stories, you have two stories that are entered differently than in other verified editions:

Would you please double check your edition and either variant or correct as needed? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:48, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Christmas Guests

This publication can not be typed as CHAPTERBOOK. For ISFDB purposes it is considered an ANTHOLOGY. Also, are you certain it's a tabloid (newspaper size publication e.g. National Enquirer)? Also, there's a typo in the author credit for the introduction. Please make the corrections in an update to the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

It's a photocopied 'zine (8.5x11 folded in half...) and I'll fix the anth/chapter book and typo. Thanks! Susan O'Fearna 20:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
It sounds like that should be typed as "octavo". If it is printed on sheets of 8.5" x 11" paper and then folded in half so that the text appearing on both the front and back creates four pages. Then it is stapled (or stitched) down in the middle. It can also be perfect bound: 8.5" x 11" pages are cut in half and then stapled on the side or glued with the binding hidden by a single folded sheet to form a cover which measures 5.5" x 8.5". For ISFDB purposes, a "tabloid" typed publication averages 11" (across) x 16" (down) when held face up by the reader. This means that it uses 22" by 16" sheets of paper folded in half, forming four pages (front and back). Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Changed to Octavo. Susan O'Fearna 17:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

The Wildside Book of Fantasy

I have accepted The Wildside Book of Fantasy, but please check the ISBN. It is producing an invalid check-sum. If the book truly has a bad ISBN, please add a note. If not, then the ISBN needs to be corrected. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I got the ISBN from B&N, as Amazon has an ASIN and the e-book itself has no number...

Also, is The Black Abbot of Puthuum really by Lin Carter or by Clark Ashton Smith? Amazon look inside shows Smith on the copyright page. Since this is a collection of reprints, it seems more likely a reprint of the Smith story than a new Carter story. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

eek, it *is* CAS... I'm sure I'd've caught that when I went in to merge shorts, but thanks... Susan O'Fearna 17:50, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
The ISBN is not the same as the one given on B&N. You should also give the source for any unstated data, which has pointed out to you on multiple occasions. I will make the correction and source the data. Mhhutchins 18:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I also changed the editor from "unknown" to "uncredited". Do not use "unknown" unless that is the actual author credit given to the work. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Dating records based on copyright

If it's not been mentioned before (and I suspect it has), we don't date titles based on the year of copyright. Many titles are copyrighted at the end of a year and are published early in the next year. Many titles are published at the end of the year, but copyrighted for the following year. So please do not use copyright year for dating records. About this title: I will accept the submission to update it, but revert the date of the record to 1965. A work which has the same title and the same author credit is considered the same work. Rarely does an author use the same title for an entirely different work, in which case we create a separate record. Any revision of that work can only be noted and can not be the basis for a variant record. We don't variant based on text, only when there is a change in title or author credit. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I changed it to 1987 b/c there are 2 version of this story; this one (87) and the original version (65)... Susan O'Fearna 18:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
As I just said, we don't create two records for the same titled work by the same credited author unless there is a substantial difference in the two versions. If you have a copy of the 1965 publication, please compare the two stories and then determine if a new record is necessary. Revision of the text is not a sufficient reason to create a separate title record. Mhhutchins 19:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, I didn't see the earlier version it referenced here, so... Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Dating records based on copyright

If it's not been mentioned before (and I suspect it has), we don't date titles based on the year of copyright. Many titles are copyrighted at the end of a year and are published early in the next year. Many titles are published at the end of the year, but copyrighted for the following year. So please do not use copyright year for dating records. About this title: I will accept the submission to update it, but revert the date of the record to 1965. A work which has the same title and the same author credit is considered the same work. Rarely does an author use the same title for an entirely different work, in which case we create a separate record. Any revision of that work can only be noted and can not be the basis for a variant record. We don't variant based on text, only when there is a change in title or author credit. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I changed it to 1987 b/c there are 2 version of this story; this one (87) and the original version (65)... Susan O'Fearna 18:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
As I just said, we don't create two records for the same titled work by the same credited author unless there is a substantial difference in the two versions. If you have a copy of the 1965 publication, please compare the two stories and then determine if a new record is necessary. Revision of the text is not a sufficient reason to create a separate title record. Mhhutchins 19:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, I didn't see the earlier version it referenced here, so... Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Dating records based on copyright

If it's not been mentioned before (and I suspect it has), we don't date titles based on the year of copyright. Many titles are copyrighted at the end of a year and are published early in the next year. Many titles are published at the end of the year, but copyrighted for the following year. So please do not use copyright year for dating records. About this title: I will accept the submission to update it, but revert the date of the record to 1965. A work which has the same title and the same author credit is considered the same work. Rarely does an author use the same title for an entirely different work, in which case we create a separate record. Any revision of that work can only be noted and can not be the basis for a variant record. We don't variant based on text, only when there is a change in title or author credit. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I changed it to 1987 b/c there are 2 version of this story; this one (87) and the original version (65)... Susan O'Fearna 18:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
As I just said, we don't create two records for the same titled work by the same credited author unless there is a substantial difference in the two versions. If you have a copy of the 1965 publication, please compare the two stories and then determine if a new record is necessary. Revision of the text is not a sufficient reason to create a separate title record. Mhhutchins 19:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, I didn't see the earlier version it referenced here, so... Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Uploading copyrighted artwork to the ISFDB server

Re this image file: It is against ISFDB policy and a copyright violation to upload artwork onto the ISFDB server. You can link an ISDFB title record to the image on another server (using the "Website" field), but you can not upload copyrighted material to our server. Once you've read this and acknowledge it, I will delete the image. If you can remember doing this in any other circumstance, please make a list of those files so that a moderator can delete them (non-moderators can't delete uploaded files.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I found another one. These are not the cover art files for a publication. They are the actual illustrations and already recorded in the database as INTERIORART records. You can link these interiorart records to Tor's website if you wish, but they will not be visible on the ISFDB record. See how it is handled on this piece's title record.

Similar situations have been brought to your attention in the past. You can only upload image files of the publication's cover. That is the only purpose for which we can claim "fair use" and protects us against charges of copyright violation. Please respect the artist's rights and their legally protected property. Mhhutchins 03:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

These are the images directly downloaded from tor.com, so I suppose they're the ones getting me in trouble ^_^ Susan O'Fearna 21:39, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

The Dolphin and the Deep

I rejected your submission to note that this title was "originally appeared in Nova #4, 1963". A casual glance at the record shows that it was first published in a 1963 issue of Science Fantasy. The name of that magazine's publisher was Nova Publications. So obviously, the credits given in The Wildside Book of Fantasy is terribly wrong. Please look at the title record before noting original appearances to make sure that your secondary source is not in error. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I saw that it was in Science Fantasy, but who knows that Nova is Science Fantasy... it's also why I put the note from Wildside in quotes. (plus the numbers don't match) Susan O'Fearna 18:58, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Then the credits in the Wildside anthology are obviously wrong. So why perpetuate the error in the ISFDB? Mhhutchins 19:38, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't assume anything's wrong, even if it's obvious to you (because it's not obvious to me), sorry Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Terazin or Terizan

Well, it's happened again. This author still hasn't figured out how to spell the name of her character. Should it now be changed back to "Terizan" based on the collection's title? Mhhutchins 23:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's on the cover of a book, now, so I'm gonna stick with Terizan ^_^ Susan O'Fearna 23:35, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
OK, but I'm sure it won't be long before another story appears that spells it differently. Just another case of poorly copyedited publications. I'm pretty sure the author knows what she wants to name the character. I just wish she had publishers who had copyeditors who could tell her when she doesn't spell it the same way within the same publication. (Read the reviews on Amazon.) Mhhutchins 23:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I have added a note to the series about the different spellings of the character's name. Mhhutchins
Cool, thanks! Susan O'Fearna 00:02, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

HTML in title field

You should not use HTML in any field other than the Note field, regardless of whether there are italicized or bold words in the title. It messes up searches. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 18:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Changes to Amaranth

I see you've changed the editor of this record from Dovya Blacque to Alayne Gelfand. If that is correct you need to correct the editor record and remove the note that sourced Fanlore.org (which credited Blacque). Mhhutchins 19:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I looked all over and there's no "Dovya Blacque" anywhere on the book... how do I correct the editor record? Susan O'Fearna 19:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Just as you'd update any record. Go to the editor record (linked above), click on "Edit Title Data", make the correction, and submit. I just discovered that Alayne Gelfand's real name is Dovya Blacque. Mhhutchins 20:17, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
OK, that's what I did... and I'll add the Dovya note to the author record -- oop, you already did!. Susan O'Fearna 20:20, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

"Family Trees"

I see that you would like to add Fiona Patton's "Family Trees" to the series "Marysburgh County" as title #5. However, I can't find any references to titles 1-4, so I am wondering if perhaps something may be amiss here. Would you happen to know more about this story? Ahasuerus 04:31, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

In the intro essay for the story, Fiona states that this is the 5th story in this ss-series. I'm not sure with are the first 4, but I've been re-reading her stories that I have and have posted to the Fiona/Tanya board asking what the first 4 are, so they're pending. Is that OK? Susan O'Fearna 16:33, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Sure, let's see what the author says. Thanks for looking into this! Ahasuerus 17:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
NP Susan O'Fearna 17:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
I got the list of 7 stories if you'll release the pending I can do the other 6... Susan O'Fearna 20:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Done, thanks! Ahasuerus 23:09, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, now adding rest of ss series. Susan O'Fearna 16:56, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Unusual Suspects

I have changed my Unusual Suspects verification to transient. You may wish to take over the first primary slot. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:33, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, that's darned odd... I didn't MEAN to change yours, I was just taking Primary2. Sorry. Susan O'Fearna 16:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood. I no longer have access to the book so I removed my Primary1 slot and changed it to the transient slot. I'm suggesting you change your Primary2 to Primary1. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:43, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh, Cool! thanks Susan O'Fearna 19:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Tigana cover image

I believe this image is for the hardcover edition from Viking UK. Look at the ISBN printed above the barcode. It was uploaded from the record for trade paperback edition published by Penguin Books. I have the submission on hold to link this image to the trade paperback edition. Please confirm whether it is correct. Mhhutchins 01:28, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

I got the image from the BrightWeavings.com (official GGK) webpage... I'll check it again. Susan O'Fearna 18:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Even if you got it from another source, you uploaded it from the wrong edition. Go to the image I linked above and then click on the edition link in the license. You can even see the publisher's name and a different ISBN on the image. So obviously your source's data is wrong. Mhhutchins 06:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I have rejected the submission and re-uploaded the image from the Viking UK hardcover edition. And then linked the image to that publication record. Mhhutchins 07:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I was gonna delete it this morning and re-try; thanks! Susan O'Fearna 16:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Frankenstein's Aunt

Re this publication record: I removed the translator credit from the author field. For ISFDB purposes, translators can only be credited in the Note field. I also changed the publisher to "Little, Brown" which is the ISFDB standard designation for this publisher. Mhhutchins 18:31, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Now I'll add the cover image... Susan O'Fearna 18:41, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

ASIN

Amazon's product identifier is neither an ISBN nor a catalog number, so it shouldn't be entered into that field. You have the option to add it to the Note field. I've done that for you here. Please keep this in mind for future submissions. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:03, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Had to do the same thing with this record. BTW, "anoniem" is not the artist's name. It means that they chose not to be credited by name for their work. Mhhutchins 21:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Susan O'Fearna 23:52, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

The Sandman: Book of Dreams

Please confirm that the co-editor is credited on the title page of this publication as "Edward E. Kramer" and not "Ed Kramer" (as was verified by another editor for the first printing.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Cover & Title Page both say Ed Kramer, copyright page DOESN't say anything, and the bio-stats on the inside of the back cover also says Ed Kramer... I'll change that. Susan O'Fearna 18:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Jennifer Roberson story in Sword and Sorceress XII

Could you take a look at this discussion and check your copy. The first primary verifier has not been responsive. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I've added my two bits... Susan O'Fearna 08:09, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Aurora in Four Voices

Re this record: Disambiguation of titles should be done with parentheses, not brackets. Also, can you confirm that there is a period in the credit for Silver? He normally doesn't use it. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins

Parentheses, check. Plus, you're right, no period. Fixing it. Susan O'Fearna 08:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
You fixed the period but not the brackets. I'll do it. Mhhutchins 20:27, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Knight Fantastic

Added notes and cover image to Knight Fantastic. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Cool. Susan O'Fearna 07:22, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Proposed The Green Mile title type change

Hi. I'm sorry, but I am going to have to reject your proposed change of The Green Mile from NOVEL to OMNIBUS. FWIW, I've been there myself. First, a couple of mechanical/procedural things:

  • Most important: This change would alter MANY primary-verified publications. You can't (well, you can, but you may not) do this sort of change without first clearing it with the verifiers. For such a widely-held/widely-verified publication, the best approach would be to start a topic on the Community Portal and then drop a pointer to the discussion on each verifier's talk page. That said, see below.
  • The title record type needs to match the pub types. If you change the title from NOVEL to OMNIBUS, you also need to go change every publication from NOVEL to OMNIBUS. But, again, see below.

Second, this particular work has been discussed before, and it looks like there are several reasons to keep it a NOVEL and to treat it like a "fix-up", where the constituent works are cited in the notes but are not added as content. It doesn't look like anyone has pursued the variant-to-an-omnibus idea. If you feel strongly about it, you may want to revive that discussion (start a new topic on the current Community Portal page and link back to that archived one and even my original question). Thanks. --MartyD 13:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

As the note on the title record states: "This is a novel that was first published in six parts." (Emphasis mine.) It is definitely not an OMNIBUS, unless you think that each of the six parts should be changed to NOVEL. A stronger case would be to variant each of the constituent parts to the novel record, but they would have to be changed from SHORTFICTION to SERIAL. I would also argue that this is not a fix-up since there is no difference between the six-part serialization of the novel and the novel which contained all six parts. Another editor (not me) could argue that it's a COLLECTION, but we don't want to go there either. :) Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
OK Susan O'Fearna 23:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

"Down in the Darkness"

In an update to this publication record, you changed the page of the story from 4 to 5, but based on ISFDB standards, if a story is illustrated, the story begins on the page of the first illustration. Look at the second bullet ("Interior art as the first page of a story") under the Page subsection of this help page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox

Can you check the cover of this verified pub? The Amazon image is different from my copy. Mine has the image currently showing at Amazon.com. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:16, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

The discrepancy is the dustjacket first run had the blue title background bar while the cover of the book and the 2nd and 3rd printing (3rd was SC same release date as 2nd edition) didn't have the blue title bar. My 1st edition hardback has a damaged dust jacket, but the book itself has the cover shown here at ISFDB. Susan O'Fearna 17:44, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused. My copy has the blue title background bar on the dustjacket and on the boards, as well as a full numberline on the copyright page. Normally that would make it a first printing or am I missing something? --Willem H. 18:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Author photos

We must have permission to "deep-link" to other servers which host files, whether they're cover images or author photos. If you have explicit permission to host an author's photograph on your own server, we can deep-link to it since you've given us permission to link to your website's server. Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

K, got it. BTW, is there a way to fix the capitalization of the Mercedes Lackey (et al) serie Serrated Edge to the correct SERRAted edge (South East Road Racing Association...)? Susan O'Fearna 21:27, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Capitalization is disregarded if you try to edit the name field and the only change is in the capitalization. There's a workaround which takes two submissions: in the first submission, edit the series name by adding the number "1", so that the name becomes "SERRAted Edge 1". In the second submission, remove the "1". Mhhutchins 22:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
It worked... Thanks! Susan O'Fearna 06:04, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Michael Whelan's Wonderworks

You verified a copy of Wonderworks. Kelly and Polly Freas are credited as editors on the titlepage of my edition, and according to the current standards should be credited as co-authors. I would like to change this credit if you don't mind. --Willem H. 19:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure... I've credit them as the editors (see contents), but if they should also be co-authors, go for it. Susan O'Fearna 20:55, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Changes. Thank you! --Willem H. 18:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White

I think I have a copy of this printing of Tim White's book you verified (price and year are the same). A few questions though. My copyright page states "Design ©1981,2000 by Collins & Brown Ltd", not 2001. In my edition there is a numberline (9 8 7 6 5), indicating a 5th printing. Can you check your copy again? Also, if you have a source for month and day of publication, you should add a note about this, or else a note stating the source is unknown. Thanks for checking, --Willem H. 20:15, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll have to check that... Susan O'Fearna 21:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Found your copy yet? :) --Willem H. 20:02, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
A month without response, so I altered the notes. Please check. Thanks, --Willem H. 08:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Charles de Lint's Jack in the Green

I added notes to this record, changed the page count from 96 to 90, and did a second primary verification. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Cool! Susan O'Fearna 18:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

The Books

Re this record: I changed the price to the current list price on Amazon. Also, are you certain this is a novella? It's only 11 or 13 pages long in its print editions. Mhhutchins 03:32, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I suppose it could still be considered a short story, but amazon says kindle price $0.99 Susan O'Fearna 03:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
It can't be a novella in one publication and a short story in another one. It has to be one or the other. Or it's two different stories. Also we don't use Amazon's Kindle price. That changes at the whim of Amazon. We try to use the publisher's list price. Mhhutchins 03:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Also, we can't link to images on cloudfront.net. I changed it to the image on Amazon. Mhhutchins 22:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

The Giving Plague

Re this publication: Amazon gives the digital list price as $0.99. I accepted your submission to change it before I checked Amazon's listing. The ISFDB price field should record the retail price, not the sale price. Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Amazon says kindle price $0.00 -- free... ? It's been that price (free) at amazon & b&n as well as smashwords for over 2 years.Susan O'Fearna 03:39, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
We don't use the "Kindle Price" for the ISFDB price field. We use the publisher's list price. You should not enter a sale price which could change in the next five minutes, even if the sale price is "$0.00". If you're uncertain what the list price is, or if Amazon or B&N don't give it, leave the field blank, and add a note about that. Thanks. Mhhutchins

Ebook content pages

Re this publication: Because ebooks are not paginated, we've developed a way to order the contents without visibly displaying the page numbers. First enter the pipe symbol "|", then enter a number based on the content's order of appearance in the ebook. The first work would be entered as "|1", the second as "|2", etc. Thanks. Mhhutchins

Same with this publication. Mhhutchins 04:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! Susan O'Fearna 05:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Adding an ASIN to the Note field

It's best to use a colon instead of an equal sign, e.g. "ASIN: BYG123456". This has become the standard for entering ASINs, and will facilitate the search for ASINs in Note fields. Mhhutchins 04:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 05:12, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

The Chesley Awards

I think I have a copy of this verified pub, but the price stated soesn't match my edition. Mine has three prices on the dustjacket's front flap: £30, US$45 and Can$69.95. Is your copy different? I would also like to add some notes (source of the publication date and such). Thanks for checking, --Willem H. 15:40, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll check my copy... and the notes are welcome. Susan O'Fearna 19:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Notes added. Please check. Thanks, --Willem H. 08:42, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Looks great! thanx Susan O'Fearna 05:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Fantasy Art Masters

I would like to make some changes to this verified pub. I want to add the subtitle ('The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide') from the titlepage, change the publication date to 2000-00-00 (the numberline indicates a second printing published in 2000) and add notes. I will also clone the pub to get the first printing in the database. Can you agree? Thanks, --Willem H. 13:31, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Knock yourself out... sounds like good changes. Susan O'Fearna 06:58, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Notes added and date changed. Please check. Thanks, --Willem H. 08:42, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Looks good to me ^_^ Susan O'Fearna 05:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Secondary sources and author credits

When you find a secondary source of information and use it to provide a credit in the book, be sure to put the info in the Pub Notes, not in the Note to Moderator. The former is preserved, the latter not. I moved your comment on Night Visions 8. Also, when you change an author credit on a publication, don't forget to go fix the title record's author credit, too. I took care of it. Thanks. --MartyD 11:14, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks Susan O'Fearna 11:20, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
The ISFDB publication record reflects credits as given in the book. So it should be changed back to "uncredited" and its title record should be varianted to another which credits the editor based on secondary evidence. Mhhutchins 20:02, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Several secondary sources (like this one) credit Dark Harvest publisher Paul Mikol as the editor of the uncredited volumes of the Night Visions series. McCammon wrote the afterword to Volume 8, but that doesn't make him the editor. If he had been, surely the publisher would have promoted that fact and given him actual credit in the publication. (McCammon was pretty hot in the horror field of the early 90s and such a credit would have driven sales.) I would suggest that McCammon be contacted to confirm his role in this publication. Mhhutchins 20:09, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
The Dean Koontz website states that Dean Koontz edited it with Paul Mikol. Susan O'Fearna 07:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for contributing to the confusion. I thought it was just a partial record and didn't realize uncredited reflected the publication itself. So what Mike says is what needs to be done. I will put the pub and its title back to uncredited. Once you determine the actual editor(s) -- and it sounds like you might be able to contact one or more of the candidates to confirm -- variant the "uncredited" title to the properly credited one and move the note from the pub to there. Thanks. --MartyD 02:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Never mind. I see I'm way late and this is already done. --MartyD 02:02, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
I've wrote the webmaster of McCammon's official website, and he wrote back saying that he'll contact the author directly to determine the extent of his involvement in the editing of the book. Mhhutchins 04:42, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
cool Susan O'Fearna 03:05, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Introductions: Shortstory vs. Essay

Usually, the introduction to a book is an essay, but some of the books that you have verified list their introduction as a fictional short story. Could you check these and, if they really are short stories, add a title note to the Introduction record noting something like "Fictional introduction"? And of course if they actually are essays, then correct them? Works that fit under this question are:

Portents
Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairy Book

Thanks, Chavey 14:09, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Looks like someone already fixed Portents, but I just submitted changes to fix Lady C's.. Thanks Susan O'Fearna 23:07, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

The Mule Rustlers

You tagged The Mule Rustlers as "non-genre", but the non-genre flag is not set. I assume the tag was applied before the flag was available. However, since it is in a verified publication, I figured I'd ask if you want to double check before setting the flag. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks... the non-genre thingy was added after I did the verify Susan O'Fearna 23:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Little Book Series II

From Rick Hautala's web site one gets the impression that this is rather a publication series than a title series: they speak of the fourth volume, with seemingly no other titles by Hautala and the use of 'Book' also Points towards this direction, so I've put your submission on hold. Please leave a comment. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 06:07, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

It is a publication series instead of a title series... can't alter the submission until it's been approved, tho Susan O'Fearna 17:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll approve of it and then make the change. Christian Stonecreek 18:41, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Grazie :) Susan O'Fearna 18:52, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

God of the Razor

Are you certain this publication is a digest? Based on the page count, it seems more likely to be a pamphlet. See this list of bindings and choose the closest one to the publication.

The INTERIORART records shouldn't be disambiguated because they're not by the same artist, so disamgibuation isn't necessary. And is the piece on page 18 correctly typed? Also, why are the illustrations titled differently than the work they illustrate? Mhhutchins 01:25, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I suppose it should be considered a pamphlet...
page 18 is an interior illustraton
the lower-case roman numerals indicate the introduction, the numbered pages are for the story itself, then the illustrations are at the back in a section titled "Visions of the God" Susan O'Fearna 01:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Please re-read my message. I said nothing about the page numbering of the contents. I was talking about the unnecessary disambiguation of the INTERIORART records. Please make a submission to correct the record. Mhhutchins 01:53, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
You need not have made separate submissions to update each content. You could have done it in one submission to update the publication. Mhhutchins 03:52, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Little Emerald Book

Please update this title record to make the synopsis factual and objective, and to remove the link to the publisher's sales page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:47, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

OK Susan O'Fearna 03:01, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Please re-read my message and "make the synopsis factual and objective". Mhhutchins 03:15, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
If I put it in italics and credit the website...? I don't actually HAVE this book, myself (Yet ☺) Susan O'Fearna 03:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Nope. It would still be promotional and subjective. Just make an objective, factual statement about the book, like "A collection of essays, opinions, reflections, and poems." or leave the field blank. Mhhutchins 03:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
better? Susan O'Fearna 03:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Little Book series numbering duplication

Please reconcile the numbering in this series. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I believe the numbering is only relevant to the publisher's website for this series as nowhere in the book does it state Little Series or have numbers... Susan O'Fearna 03:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Page numbers for ebook contents

Re this publication: Because the pages in ebooks are set by the user and not the publisher, you should leave the page numbers of the contents blank. Alternately, you have the option to sort the contents for display by adding a pipe character "|" before the order number. That way, the contents are displayed in order but the number isn't. Please keep this in mind when entering ebooks with contents. When you get a chance, please go back and make the correction for any ebook for which you've given "page numbers". Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll try that ! thanks Susan O'Fearna 22:38, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I was unable to accept the submission to update the page numbering because of a system error. You had merged one of the content records in a previous submission so the system wasn't able to find it and errored out the submission. Please try again. Remember in the future not to make simultaneous submissions that update both the contents AND the publication. Wait until one has been approved before moving on to the other. Mhhutchins 23:05, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Now that I know HOW to do that, I have a few of those to do... but it'll be after work, OK Susan O'Fearna 23:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

The Christmas Megapack

Re this publication: With few exceptions, only SF (speculative fiction) stories are eligible for inclusion in the ISFDB. I'm holding your submission to add the remaining stories in this anthology which a previous editor considered to be non-genre. Unless you disagree and that ALL of the stories you're adding are spec-fic, please cancel the submission. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:03, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I was the one who excluded the stories; now that we have a non-genre category... all of the stories have at least a little bit of SpecFic, just these 16 or 17 weren't purely SpecFic, so I left them off the first time... Susan O'Fearna 23:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Non-genre stories are only allowed if the authors are "above the threshold", i.e. have reached a reputable status within the field of speculative fiction. Non-genre stories by non-genre authors are not eligible for a website which calls itself the Internet Speculative Fiction Database. If you disagree with my interpretation of the standards please start a discussion on one of the community pages. Or cancel the submission, and resubmit another which only adds speculative fiction stories to the record. Mhhutchins 23:18, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
I'll just cancel it and do another with the numbers, but when I get back from walking my dog and sleeping off the worst of my allergy meds XD Susan O'Fearna 00:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Hey, Mike... if they're stories by authors ALREADY in the DB, so I add the stories? or not? hmmm Susan O'Fearna 05:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Is the author above the threshold? Do they have a considerable presence in the field of speculative fiction? A non-genre story by Isaac Asimov would be eligible. A non-genre story by Joe Schmoe who has only a few spec-fic credits and has had little or no impact on the field would not. Mhhutchins 06:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
How would I know if the author is above the threshold? Susan O'Fearna 06:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
99% of the time, it should be obvious. If you've read much in the field, it shouldn't be difficult to determine. If you are not sure about a specific author, post a message on the community portal. Someone with a larger knowledge of the field should be able to help determine eligibility. Mhhutchins 07:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Use of HTML in title fields

I removed the HTML used in the title field of this record. ISFDB rules prohibit such use because it conflicts with title searches. Mhhutchins 06:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

thanks; I guess we don't italicize titles in the title field :D Susan O'Fearna 06:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Apex, March 2015

I accepted the submission to add Sigrid Ellis as an editor of this issue, but learned that she is no longer associated with the magazine. According to this announcement, her last issue was December 2014. She isn't mentioned at all on the publisher's website. How is she credited in your copy of the March 2015 issue? Mhhutchins 16:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

On the copyright screen it states edited by Jason Sizemore and Sigrid Ellis, so I figured she should be credited on the pub record. Odd. Susan O'Fearna 17:08, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
She's also credited on the cover page. I've updated all 2015 issues to credit both her and Jason Sizemore. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. (I guess they're not very good at maintaining their website.) Mhhutchins 19:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
The link to my website in Nina Kiriki Hoffman's bio-screen is wrong, too... drat! Susan O'Fearna 19:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Memory and Dream & Memory & Dream

Sorry, but I had to reject your submission to merge these two titles since the longer version is clearly stated as printed on the title page in the original entry. Instead I merged the two occurrences of Memory & Dream. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 03:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

ok Susan O'Fearna 05:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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