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Alien Horizons

I accepted the changes you made to this record, but ask they you check the capitalization that you've given for the introduction. And again: please, please, please let the moderator know whether you are working from the actual book or from a secondary source. Why is this so difficult to remember? Mhhutchins 02:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm going through my art books to verify them... as soon as I get started adding the details I'll verify them. The two I have by Eggelton are Primal Darkness and Alien Horizons. Ofearna 02:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm not asking you to verify the record. I'm asking you to let the moderator know in the submission if you're working from the primary or secondary source. So you must do one of these two things:
  • If you are working from a primary source, enter the following statement in the "Note to Moderator" field: "Book in hand".
  • If your data is from a secondary source, enter the following statement in the "Note" field: "Data from" followed by the source(s) of your data.
Please let me know whether you're able to follow this simple request. If you're not able to or unwilling to do so, just let me know and I promise to never bother asking you again. But I also promise to reject any submissions that do not follow these request. Mhhutchins 04:31, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Got it. I can only promise to try. Ofearna 10:32, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Humanx Commonwealth (again)

I've created a bibliographic comments page for the series. You can use the chronology as the source for your numbering of the stories, but it's not necessary to link to the author's list. Mhhutchins 05:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Hope it's all OK now! Thanks so much for your help. Ofearna 17:46, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
There are two #6s and two #7s. I thought you meant to reorder them, otherwise it's an error. As I said above: You can't have two stories in the same series with the same series number. Mhhutchins 21:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
I have moved this back from the archives to your talk page so that you can respond to my last post. Mhhutchins 07:50, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought this was Pip & Flinx again... This numbering error must have happened when I added "Perception" and "Chilling" to the series order. I'll go fix that! Thankx! Ofearna 17:27, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

de Lint's Moonheart

Hello, Susan. I have put your submission on hold, because the page count you submitted seems somewhat incongruent with the rules for pagination. For example, the page count of the publication is stated as 506 and there's no mentioning of [unnumbered] pages, which should be the case when you refer to them with contents. Stonecreek 19:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Just re-checked the rules you gave me the link to... these un-numbered pages are not at the end or the beginning, but inserted color plages. When I added [P|387226|Powerborn] the color plates were at the end, but when we did [P|316238|Queen of the Black Coast] the color plates were done the way I've done [P|261978|Moonheart]. If you'll approve the changes I can certainly go change the page numbering to [1]+506+[6] -- [1] for the autograph page just before page 1 and [6] for the 6 color plates. Ofearna 21:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, but we don't have autographs as content so [1] page should be subtracted from the page count.
Two further questions: are the color plates part of the overall page count (i.e. for example: page 120 has text, followed by a (unnumbered) plate, next numbered page with text is 123? This seems to be the case when I see for example [384] as proposed. And: are the plates really on even pages (normally one would expect them on uneven pages)? Stonecreek 10:15, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
No, the color plates do not affect pagination. Ofearna 10:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
And the other question? (There were two, just to remind you). Stonecreek 14:51, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
The color plates are on the right-hand side facing the evenly numbered (left-side) pages, but they don't affect pagination, so if they DID affect pagination, they'd be odd-numbered... Ofearna 17:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
You are right on the last one, but since they are not part of the page count, they have to be given page numbers as [1] to [6] (see this pub. for an example). It would be nice to add a note describing after which pages the plates are inserted. It now seems more promising to add the pages anew, so I will reject your submission. Stonecreek 19:08, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
is there any way you can still access the NOTES I'd added? and send them to me so I can include them in the new edit? All that was wrong with the rejected submission was the page numbers, but the notes were extensive took me about 1/2 hour to get done.Ofearna 19:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I am afraid that's not possible: a reject is a reject. Maybe I can sometime assist you in a research (or some other help). Stonecreek 19:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Variant with same names

Hi! I put the variant submissions on hold so you could update the title record to indicate which one is colour or black and white. Barbara Allen (colour image) as an example. Thanks!Kraang 02:51, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Pretty sure that's all 4 with both variants "note"d Ofearna 08:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
But you didn't change the title field, so the records' titles are identical (as Kraang stated). You can't make a title record into a variant of another title record if both the author/artist credit and title fields are identical. I would also argue that variants should not be based on one being a B&W reproduction of a color original, but that's a Rules and Standards discussion that I'd rather not start. Mhhutchins 18:58, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
OK, if you'll approve the changes, I can change the names, then the variant-ing can be approved? Thanks
Ok, two down two to go.Kraang 00:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
They're ready... thanks! Ofearna 19:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguating titles

I've noticed lately that you've started using brackets like this "[" and "]" to disambiguate titles. According to the help documentation, you should use parentheses: "(" and ")". Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Will do! Thankx ! Ofearna 18:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
One other thing: you have a submission in the queue to change the title of a record from "Web of Spider-Man 1" to "Web of Spider-Man 1 : black and white reproduction". This change is saying that the title as given in the publication (preferably captioned) is exactly "Web of Spider-Man 1 : black and white reproduction". If it's only "Web of Spider-Man 1" and you want to disambiguate it you should title it "Web of Spider-Man 1 (black and white reproduction)". Without the parenthetical disambiguation, you're saying that this is the exact title of the work as stated in the publication. Mhhutchins 20:43, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
OK, if you'll approve them as is, I'll go add () parentheses Thankx! Ofearna 23:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


I accepted the submission to update this record, but it appears you've given the wrong date for the interior art records. They should be the same date as the publication unless the art was published in an earlier edition. These records give the date after the publication date. BTW, I rejected the submission to add the ebook of this title because it wasn't sourced. It was only in the next submission that you said you have the book. In the future you must source each record within its own submission, or I will be forced to reject it. Mhhutchins 02:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

One more thing: you disambiguated the title of the first piece of interiorart. ISFDB standards are to only disambiguate the second and later pieces that share the same title. Mhhutchins 02:02, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

thanks Ofearna 02:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
One further thing: these ebooks were published well after the print editions. I was able to find the prices and publication dates on Amazon, and will be updating the records. Mhhutchins 02:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Cool; I was just using the date on the copyright screen Ofearna 03:04, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Never use the copyright date as the publication date. The ISFDB field is only for the publication date. We don't have a field for the copyright date, frankly because it's of very little value to know the year when a title was copyrighted. Mhhutchins 03:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


If you have the book, why did you add a note to this record that the data is from Amazon and the publisher's website? Mhhutchins 03:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Same situation with this record. If you mean the date (not data) is from Amazon, just say "Publication date from Amazon". Mhhutchins 03:40, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I just didn't remove the existing notes... the exact release date from the website tends to be more exact since SubPress doesn't change the date once they post the projected release date... So, I'll make sure they're all "correct" Thanks!! Ofearna 03:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Angelic [4]

Bad HTML in the note field of this title. Mhhutchins 06:58, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll redo it, thanks Ofearna 07:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Uploading art to the ISFDB server...

...could be a violation of copyright laws and makes the ISFDB liable for any claims by the publisher or artist. I will delete the images that you've uploaded. Mhhutchins 07:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

...isn't necessary when the image we link to is much better than the one you link to as in the case of Aliens and Alien Societies (the link to fantasticfiction is still functioning), so I rejected your submission. Stonecreek 16:14, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

How to enter an emdash in a title

Use the Alt-Code 0151 which looks like this: — . Some of the titles you're updating are using the HTML Unicode & #9644 ; which looks like ▬ and is too bold. Mhhutchins 17:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Excerpts in Immortal Bad Boys

Looking at the three excerpts printed in this book it appears they're not spec-fic works. Unless promotional excerpts are from spec-fic novels, you should not create content records for them. You have the option of adding info about them in the Note field. Please determine if any of them are sf-related, and delete those that are not. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

"Beluthahatchie" by Eggleton

Can you look at the art with this title in this publication and see if it matches Eggleton's artwork for this cover? I'm holding a submission to make it a variant of this cover, which is quite different. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 18:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll go cancel and re-do that merge... Thankx! Ofearna 17:16, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Eggleton's Psychomech

You should link the cover art records to this one, not the novels' title records. There are other editions that have covers by different artists. Mhhutchins 17:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Since you've either not seen or chosen to ignore this message, I've removed the links to the novels' title records. You can add links to the cover art records if you wish. Mhhutchins 07:32, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

2nd printing of The Eyre Affair

I accepted the submission to add this record, but you say in the note to moderator that you have "no idea when this particular edition was released". But you dated the records as "2002-02-00". If there is no explicitly stated date of publication, you must zero out the date as "0000-00-00" which will be displayed as "unknown". Mhhutchins 01:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool, will do. I've never added one with no date before ^-^ Ofearna 01:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
So every book you have created a record for must have been dated. That's very rare! Mhhutchins 02:11, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Image for Against Infinity

I really don't see the point in uploading an image such as this to the ISFDB server. It is of such poor quality that it's not worth the bandwidth to download it or the space it occupies. Is there any reason other than "it's better than nothing" to keep this file on the server? In a case like this, nothing is better. Mhhutchins 02:08, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the image for Against Infinity. Will look for the others. Thanks! Ofearna 18:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Same situation with this image. Again, what's the point? Your time and effort is worth more than this crap. Mhhutchins 02:10, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

And now fixed For Love of Mother-Not Ofearna 18:44, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

And this one. You must have higher standards. Mhhutchins 02:12, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed Wizard's Heir. Ofearna 18:47, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Why upload images like this when there are images like this that you can snag and upload? This is wasting both of our times. Mhhutchins 02:20, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed Texas Night Riders Thanks for helping me find the better image!!! Ofearna 18:50, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Lion of Ireland

Why did you place this note: "no credit or signature on art, back or copyright page for cover artist" in the "Note to Moderator" field of this record. That is very relevant information and should have been entered into the "Note" field. Otherwise no one but you will ever know why you didn't record the artist credit in the record. Mhhutchins 02:16, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Linking records to images on unauthorized websites

I've told you this before, so I don't understand why you continue to do this: DO NOT LINK records to image files on websites for which we don't have permission to link. We do not have permission to link to librarything, and the fact that you say you "need to go upload and change the cover image to local" doesn't mitigate the problem. What's the point of linking to an image in a submission which you claim is only temporary? We can't take the chance that you'd forget to go back and remove the offending link. I will accept the submission this last time. And I will remove the links. But any future submissions that do this will be rejected without comment. Mhhutchins 02:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Art record variants

We don't make early versions (pencil sketches, etc.) into variants of the finished works. They're considered a different work. Mhhutchins 07:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

COOL, thanks. I tried variant-ing them to the art, but it said that wasn't allowed b/c the art was already varianted to the covers. Should I just remove the sketches, then? Ofearna 16:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I see no reason to remove them. And there's no reason to variant them either. I'm assuming they're entirely different works, otherwise you wouldn't have created content records for them. Right? Mhhutchins 17:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
They're sketches or studies that he painted for the full-color cover versions... Ofearna 17:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Then they should not be varianted to the record for the finished work. Mhhutchins 20:42, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Perdido Street Station cover date

Hi. I have your proposed change of date from 8888-00-00 to 0000-00-00 on the Perdido Street Station cover on hold. "8888" means unpublished (vs. "0000", which means unknown, and "9999", which means "forthcoming [on an unknown date]"). It looks like that whole pub is marked unpublished (8888). Is the cover published somewhere? Thanks. --MartyD 11:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't actually know how to handle this... the book was never released and no longer appears on the website so it's cancelled.... ? Ofearna 17:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what the 8888 is for. Never published. So I am going to reject your submission and leave it as 8888. If you go to any of the summary pages (e.g., here or here), you'll see "unpublished" for the date, which seems to be appropriate. --MartyD 11:42, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Secondary source for Ever After cover art credit

I moved your same cover as SFBC edition ; flyer states "Jacket art by Larry Rostant" note to the moderator into the publication notes on Ever After. Whenever bibliographic detail does not come from the publication itself, the source should be recorded in the publication's notes. Notes to the moderator are not preserved -- they're just to help the moderator with the submission. Thanks. --MartyD 12:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Likewise the note about the cover art credit for the SFBC edition of Home from the Sea. --MartyD 13:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

C. Vess Sketchbook

I accepted your C. Vess Sketchbook content additions, but I have a question, and some fixing up will be needed, too. I don't understand the leading "(from)" on some of the entries. I don't see why you would need that. Some of the entries have the same titles, so you should add [2], etc. to those to disambiguate. Also, unless the caption is a quote (in which case, add the quotes), I would go with normalized capitalization instead of all lower case, just as you would for any other work. --MartyD 13:09, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The A Midsummer Night's Dream graphic novel was never published and I don't have access to the illustrated version that *was* published, so I don't know the order or whatever... How would you like me to handle that situation? Ofearna 20:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
That's ok. Everything is relative to this publication, so you'd just add [2], [3], etc. sequentially as they appear in the Sketchbook. If we ever had the graphic novel or discovered an appropriate title/caption from the graphic novel, we'd make the ones we have variants of those. Then the summary would show those better names, too. --MartyD 11:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Caitlín R. Kiernan's The Colliers' Venus

Can you please double check that the Caitlín R. Kiernan story in your verified Naked City: Tales of Urban Fantasy (SFBC edition) is titled "The Colliers' Venus" and not "The Colliers' Venus (1893)" before I make it a variant? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:01, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

My copy fell apart and, as I'd already read all the short stories, I threw the pieces away. I'll probably buy another copy eventually b/c I did like some of the stories, but I don't have it on hand anymore. So... Ofearna 16:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
I've merged them as it's most likely the SFBC didn't change the name. Can you please change your verification to "Primary (Transient)" to indicate you no longer have the book? If you buy another copy, you can always switch it back. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
done. Thanks! Ofearna 18:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Interior art in The Silvered

Is the interiorart in The Silvered really credited to "undisclosed", or is it uncredited (in which case, it should be credited to "uncredited")? I was going to change it but figured I'd check first. Thanks. --MartyD 12:06, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

no credit at all, so I guess uncredited... Ofearna 04:16, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Vess cover art for Meisha Merlin ed. of A Storm of Swords

What is the source for this image? Since the book wasn't published, it can't be from the book itself. Mhhutchins 20:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

It was at the Meisha Merlin site way back when; I've had it on my hard drive... Ofearna 20:40, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll accept the submission and ask that you update the record to give the source for the image. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:42, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Stealing Magic

I am holding two submissions. The first wants to delete this publication record, and the second wants to update the same record. Since both can't be correct, please cancel the submission that is in error. Mhhutchins 20:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll cancel the delete since this was the one I was trying to delete as what the publisher's calling pb is actually a trade paperback (larger than regular mass market). Ofearna 20:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I accepted the submission giving the shortened title for the collection. In the previous submission, you'd given a subtitle. Is that subtitle not present on the book's title page? Mhhutchins 21:48, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


What does the page count of "212 +" mean in this record. If there are unnumbered pages in the publication, they should be counted and added to the field, e.g. "212+[12]" and then indicate in the note field what is on the unnumbered pages (such as plates for artwork). Also, there is no need to add a link in the note field to the publishers sales page for the book, unless that page provides information that is not stated in the book itself. If so, that should be noted. Mhhutchins 20:48, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I was adding the color plates (there are 3 in my version) that do not affect pagination) but my Aunt from Cali arrived, so I just hit enter... Ofearna 20:49, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Now pending are the rest of the changes I was adding Thanks Ofearna 20:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Sub Press ed. of A Storm of Swords

There is already a record for this edition. Is there any other reason why I should accept your submission adding another record? It would be better to cancel the submission and update the current record, giving the source for the updated information. Mhhutchins 20:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I was going to do it correctly; vol 1 then vol 2 then make the existing record an omni since it's a box set. Ofearna 21:35, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it's one novel, published in two volumes and typed as NOVEL, not OMNIBUS. So there should only be one record for the set. There would be two records if the two volumes were sold separately, each having their own ISBN and priced individually. I don't think that's the case here. Mhhutchins 21:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
OK, how to handle the different covers? use that dual pic? Ofearna 01:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes. That sounds fine. Use the single file that gives the images of both volumes. Mhhutchins 01:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Updating title records

I accepted several submissions which updated title records, which were subsequently merged with another title record, thus losing the updated notes that you had added to the first record. You should not make simultaneous submissions to either update or merge the same title record. Wait until the first submission is accepted before making another submission to merge it with another record. You will have to go back and add the notes that were lost in several of those interiorart records by Vess. Mhhutchins 21:54, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I was trying not to... thanks tho Ofearna 01:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Story lengths

I accepted several submissions which merged records, retaining the "unlengthed" version instead of the "lengthed" one. I had to go back and restore the lengths to the merged record. In the future, if one record has a length (ss, nt, nv), you should choose it over one that has no designated length. Mhhutchins 21:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

OK...Ofearna 01:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Terazin / Terizin

I see you've changed the name of the series back to the original spelling. Back in April you'd changed it to the other spelling. What is the source for the latest change? You said then that the character's name is spelled "Terizin", but the latest submission changed the series name back to Terazin. Is it spelled differently in different publications? Mhhutchins 01:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

It was Terizan, but it's supposed to be Terazin.Ofearna

Zero in the dollar field

You have to add a zero ("0") in the dollar field when the price is less than a dollar. I've changed several of your records from "$.99" to "$0.99". Mhhutchins 05:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks... what about free e-books? Ofearna 05:42, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Star Messenger

If a book (print or electronic) has more than one story it is not a CHAPTERBOOK. I've changed this record to a COLLECTION. Mhhutchins 05:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Got it, thanks so much Ofearna 05:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

A Game of Thrones : the Graphic Novel : volume 1

Is this exactly how the work is titled on its title page? (The punctuation and capitalization seem odd.) Also, you didn't give the source for the data. I should have outright rejected the submission because of this, as I've started doing with all submissions that do not give a source. Mhhutchins 05:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, book in hand. Should I scan the title and copyright pages so we can make sure the punctuation is correct? I was putting colons in place of line breaks. Ofearna 05:56, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
No scan necessary, just make sure that the title is taken from the title page. I'll accept the submission and ask that you make any necessary changes. We use a colon to indicate a change in font face or size (usually for a subtitle), so that's not necessarily the problem. We don't add spaces before them, and we usually capitalize based on standard capitalization rules which you'll find on the help page for entering titles. Mhhutchins 07:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
I've re-tried to add those books you rejected with the mod note "book in nook" Ofearna 06:08, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Is this exactly how the afterword is titled, with the word "Afterword" in brackets? I can't emphasize enough that the title should be entered exactly as it given on the work's title page. We only disambiguate when the title is generic. Mhhutchins 07:28, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
so, I leave it as essay and don't note that it's an afterword. Okay! Ofearna 07:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Karen Chance's A Family Affair

Are you certain that the publisher of this story is St. Martin's Press? I could not find a copy for sale on either Amazon or Barnes & Noble websites. All of my research is showing that it is a free download from the author's website. (You also forgot to create a content record for the short story.) Mhhutchins 07:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The title page at the end of the story shows the publisher at St. Martin's Press and the copyright info before the story begins says smashwords. I got it as a free download from for my nook and I used the publisher on the title page. Should I change anything? Ofearna 07:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
The title page is at the end of the story? Strange. I've got the same problem with "The Lake" by Tananarive Due. I can not find it available on either Amazon or Barnes & Noble. This is all giving me a headache. I'll accept the submissions as is and hope that the data is correct. Mhhutchins 07:53, 27 December 2012 (UTC) is where The Lake still is.

And you forgot to add a content record in this one also. I'll do it for you. Mhhutchins 07:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

And this one, too. Please remember to create content records for CHAPTERBOOK-typed publications. Mhhutchins 07:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

And I've had to fix this one as well. Mhhutchins 07:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Crud; I thought that was automatic. Thanks Ofearna 07:48, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
It's never been automatic for CHAPTERBOOKS. Mhhutchins 07:53, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it; I'll go see if I need to combine duplicate titles in the morning (1am means bedtime!) Ofearna 07:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

"Shade" by Gould

I accepted the submission but subsequently deleted the record you created for an ebook of this story. There was already a record in the database. Mhhutchins 16:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


I normalized the capitalization of the title of this record. Unless the actual name is all caps in the story, don't use a designer or typesetter's choice but apply standard capitalization rules. Mhhutchins 16:19, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Pharoah Fantastic

Did you do an actual word count in order to change the story lengths from novelette to short story for many of the stories in this publication? At more than 40 pages, I would expect "Beneath the Eye of the Hawk" to be a novelette. Mhhutchins 19:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

No, I didn't, but her website (Lindskold) calls it a short story ... Ofearna 19:21, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll accept the submission but return the story lengths to their original designation. Mhhutchins 20:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Titles of interiorart records

I see you've given titles to a couple of interiorart records which appear to be captions in this publication. It is ISFDB standard to title an interiorart record for the work which it illustrates. If it does not illustrate a specific work (fiction or nonfiction), it is given the name of the publication in which it appears. As a last resort, you can give the caption that appears in the actual publication, but only if the work doesn't illustrate either a story or the book itself. It appears that the two captioned pieces in this anthology should be titled the same as the work they illustrate. And the same may apply to the pieces on pages 3 and 83 which are titled differently than any work in the book. Mhhutchins 20:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed this one... Ofearna 20:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Same situation with the piece on page 131 of this publication. Mhhutchins 20:39, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

This one the picture actually SAYS "Our Sixth Grade Teacher is Missing". Would I still entitle it the short story? Ofearna 20:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, as I said above, in the order of priority, we title the interiorart record 1) the title of the individual work which it illustrates, 2) the title of the publication which contains the work, and 3) the captioned title, but only if it doesn't illustrate a specific work. Mhhutchins 20:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Between Time and Terror

I accepted the submission to update this record but restored the publisher name to "Roc / New American Library" which is the ISFDB standard designation for this publisher. Mhhutchins 04:42, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Looked all over for some mention of the New American Library; couldn't find one ANYWHERE, that's why I removed it. I did put the ROC FANTASY (from the spine) in the notes... Ofearna 04:47, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
It's usually indicated on the copyright page as "ROC / Published by New American Library, a division of Penguin Group (USA)". Even if it's not stated in your copy of this edition, it's better to keep the books under one publisher name, until or when the imprint changes hands or is folded, which may be any day now that Penguin and Random House have merged. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Title page just says A ROC BOOK, copyright page says ROC / Published by the Penguin Group / First published by Roc an imprint of Dutton Signet, a division of Penguin Books. Ofearna 05:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

"Miracle Needed"

Is there any spec-fic element in this story? Mhhutchins 21:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

other than the anthropomorphic element, not really. (same with Rikki-Tikki-Tavi from same book). Ofearna 21:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Record source in the NOTE field

Please record the source for your data in the NOTE field of this record (and all records in which you're not working from the actual book). DO NOT record vital information in the NOTE TO MODERATOR field. That data is not a permanent part of the record. Please read this to understand the purpose of the NOTE TO MODERATOR field. You've been asked to do this more than once. Mhhutchins 21:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I've re-added that info in notes. Thanks. Also, I got to leave the note for Willem re : Chronomaster now that my boss is gone. Is it good to go now? Ofearna 23:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


I'm holding your submission to add cover art credit to this record while you inform the primary verification of the change to the record. Mhhutchins 00:08, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I was informed of this. On the wrong page, but still. The edit is valid and can be approved. Thanks, --Willem H. 10:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Notifications for Dragoondelight

As the notification message at the top of his talk page states, only post notices if you're adding images or notes and he's the sole verifier. Otherwise you should post only on the other verifiers' talk pages. If there are no other verifiers, post notices on the Moderator's Noticeboard. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:33, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Gor Omnibus, Feb 1972

I believe you have the wrong cover, GRMNBSBZJM1972.jpg, for this publication. That seems to be the right cover for the Nov 2007 edition published by Dark Horse but wrong for the original Feb 1972 edition published by Sidgwick & Jackson. Uzume 07:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Yup, according to the Complete Works of John Norman website, you're right. how to fix? Ofearna 16:39, 31 December 2012 (UTC)