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The Nano Menace

I changed the publisher to just 'Perfection Learning' - the name already established. Thanks, Stonecreek 16:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Punkupine Moshers of the Apocalypse

Could you please clarify the intent of this submission? Did you perhaps mean to make "Punkupine Moshers of the Apocalypse" into a variant of "Punkupines of the Apocalypse"? If so, then something must have gone wrong since the submission would create a new title record, also called "Punkupine Moshers of the Apocalypse", and turn the current "Punkupine Moshers of the Apocalypse" into a variant. Ahasuerus 22:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I guess I did something wrong. "Punkupine Moshers of the Apocalypse" is supposed to be the varient of the original "Punkupines of the Apocalypse". I'll try again. MLB 07:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Worked fine, thanks! Ahasuerus 07:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now to verify and move on. MLB 07:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Cold Fusion Media [Empire]

I accepted your submission of Space Eldritch. I noticed you used "Cold Fusion Media" (which is the branding on their website), but we already have Cold Fusion Media Empire used for the issues of Arkham Tales. What do you think about using the latter instead? --MartyD 10:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

There is no "Empire" anywhere on or in the book, but if you think that it is a good idea, I'll go with it. It wouldn't be the first time that there were two seperate book or media companies with the same name. I guess we should be glad that we're not listing musical groups. :-) MLB 10:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
No, there's no "Empire" on the site, either. If anything, perhaps we should change the others. I would keep what you have. --MartyD 10:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
By the way, why did all of my submissions become verified, I didn't do it, before I could check them for errors? Has this something to do with my computer? MLB 11:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
This is a new feature. If you indicate you are working from a publication you own, it will mark you as the verifier automatically. I will point the person who added it to your question. If you don't like it, I suggest raising a complaint (or question) on the Community Portal to give others a chance to chime in. --MartyD 10:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
If you'd rather not have the record auto-verified, don't click the button for "I own this publication". The default asks you to explain in the Note field your source. In this case, say "Data from the publication. Primary verification forthcoming - MLB." Mhhutchins 00:47, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Submissions questions

Hi. Two questions for you, about two submissions I have on hold:

  • Zoetrope: All-Story is missing the date (and/or issue #) from the title. Should it be ", Spring 2013"?
  • Is your 2nd printing of New Cthulhu: The Recent Weird dated? The cloning propagates the 2011-11-22 from the original entry, and I'm suspicious.

Thanks. --MartyD 10:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes it is Zoetrope: All-Story, Spring 2013. I thought I did that. As for New Cthulhu: The Recent Weird, you have every right to be suspicious, I cloned the original and forgot to change the date to 0000-00-00. I was going to correct that once my submission was accepted. ***Sigh*** I just didn't want to cancel my work and do the page numbering again. I'll correct that. Sorry. MLB 10:37, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
No need to cancel. I just didn't want to leave it incorrect if it was wrong. I will fix it. --MartyD 10:39, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I see, looking at my history, I messed up my submission to Zoetrope: All-Story the first time, I cancelled it, and then redid it, wrongly again. I can make an excuse, but I won't. I'll fix both of the above submissions if you approve them. MLB 10:42, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Both accepted, and I fixed them up to save you another submit-and-review cycle. Thanks. --MartyD 10:43, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

"Nota del autor"

I suggest that even for non-English "standard" title equivalents, you add disambiguation. In Apocalipsis Maya, "Nota del autor" is "Author's Note", to which we would add the publication's title in parentheses, so the Spanish form should get it, too. --MartyD 14:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Also, when you get a chance, please variant the title to the English language parent title record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:40, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

WC Roberts -> W. C. Roberts

In a situation like this, the title's author credit should be corrected to reflect the "Initials" regularization described in Help:Screen:EditPub#Author_2. Unless the author is known to use a concatenated set of initials without punctuation, we put periods and spaces in, even if the particular publication does not. Here, we have lots of evidence, including the author's website, that he uses "W. C.", not "WC". So I rejected the proposed variant and corrected the title's credit instead. Thanks. --MartyD 10:50, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I was just entering how the magazine listed his name. Thanks for the correction. MLB 11:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Fantastic Horror

Hi. Some comments/questions for you about the various Fantastic Horror anthologies:

  • Volume 5 shows up as having a bad ISBN. Should the middle "9" be a "0"? Amazon lists it as 9781480276567.
  • For the same one, I notice the cover says The Mythos Revisited. Amazon doesn't show the title page, so I can't tell if "The" is missing from the entry or not. If it's not on the title page, it's probably worth noting the discrepancy between the cover and title page.
  • The ordering and punctuation of the title, series title, and volume number is not consistent among the various publication entries. Are they given differently on the respective title pages? Unless the titles are explicitly given as X: Y: Z or X Y: Z (so, for example, if they are presented "stacked" in varying orders), I suggest recording them as Series Volume: Title, then editing the title record to remove the series + volume (leaving just the title) and putting them with the appropriate number into a Fantastic Horror or Fantastic Horror (Anthologies) series.
  • The notes in all of them say they are "communally edited", yet you list editors for most of them. What's up with that?
  • Did you mean to make the frontispiece in Volume II be INTERIORART?
  • Number 6 has "Vol 6" on the cover, but "Number 6" in the title. Again, a note would be good if the title page uses "Number".

Thanks. --MartyD 10:27, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

p.s. I did see you addressed some of these in later submissions. By the way, in the Contents section, if you are allowed to either anything about the content entry, you are effectively editing that title's record. If the title has been merged and is shared as a content entry in other publications, you will not be allowed to edit it in place and will have to go seek out the title record. So there's no need to, for example, correct an author name's spelling in the content list and then also go make the same change to the title record. It's different if you are working on the publication's author, because there the title record is something separate and must be edited separately. I hope that makes sense. --MartyD 14:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Marty: Sorry to be so late getting back to you, we've had some black-outs here in my area lately, and as such, no internet.
  • Okay: I corrected the ISBN and the title. I hate the way their titled. I would have preferred to just have listed them by their title, without the excess verbiage, but, that's not what's listed. I just recorded exactly what's on the title page.
  • The first two books have no editors listed, but I listed my suspicions when it came to the two common editors of the other books. Communally edited is, unless I’m reading this wrongly, is what is inferred on the website about Fantastic Horrors in general about everything dealing with Fantastic Horrors. That’s why there are so many editors on these books.
  • I have yet to back and correct any mistakes in the first three books, but I will; see the black-out reason above.
  • Yes, It’s Vol 6 on the cover, but it’s Volume 6 on the title page. These seem to be do-it-yourself books. Not a bad thing, but it also accounts for the obscurity of the contributors. There’s also a Fantastic Horrors book of horror poetry that I don’t have, but which is unnumbered. MLB 10:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguating Analog's generic column titles

This should be done in the format "Title (Analog, Month YYYY)". Please update those titles in this record when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:57, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

And the previous month's record, too. (Look at how it's done in the 40+ years of previous issues.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I kept looking at it, but I never saw it, now I think that I do. Sorry. I am correcting these mistakes now. MLB 01:08, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Dating format for bimonthly issues

This pub record and its editor record should be changed to "September-October 2013" (using a dash instead of a slash). This is the ISFDB standard (one which I personally disagree with, but never got a chance to provide any input when it was agreed upon by other editors.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:05, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, now corrected. MLB 01:21, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2013

I mistakenly approved your submission to add this title to a series titled "Asimov's Science Fiction - 2013". The way these magazines are handled is that this publication should have been merged with the Title record for Asimov's Science Fiction - 2013, and that title record is then (already) part of the series Asimov's Science Fiction. I've corrected our error. Chavey 02:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

The Hollow

Does this 2008 publication have an ISBN-13? IT was standard by that time. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 16:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Corrected MLB 00:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Monster Blood

Just accepted your new pub Monster Blood... does the copyright page state that Hippo is an imprint of Scholastic, as opposed to a "subsidiary" as mentioned in the Note? At the moment it's the only publication in the db from "Hippo", and there is already an imprint "Hippo / Scholastic UK in the database. Thanks. PeteYoung 10:36, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Fortunately my cat decided to take a nap on my keyboards just as you posted your inquiry, so I was finally able to talk her off of it so I could answer you before signing off. This book's title page says "Hippo" but the copyright page says "Scholastic Children's Books". Maybe Hippo is an imprint. Frankly, I've never heard of Hippo before, I got this book at a garage sale. The back cover does say Scholastic, and it has a UK price, but Scholastic is not on the title page. MLB 10:56, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Considering the UK cover price and the fact that there are already plenty of pubs under "Hippo / Scholastic UK", I think it's a fair assumption this is also a publication of that imprint. I'll make the change. Thanks. PeteYoung 22:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

"Four Wooden Stakes"

Can you confirm the author credit of the story on page 342 of this publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

During a rare moment of desperate quietness in my household I cleaned up my workspace and put this book into storage. It'll take a day or two to try to dig it out. (There was a recent bookslide here where about fifty stacked books just collapsed outwards. I've never seen my cat move so fast.). However, if it helps, my review, and I explain why it rambles in the comments section, here on Amazon states that the story was Four Wooden Stakes by Victor Roman, as does Amazon's "Look Inside" feature. I didn't create this record, I just tried checking out some the entries but this is a lo-o-ong list of stories and I'm sure my eyes must of glazed over. Do you want me to add the cover image from Amazon? MLB 09:22, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I'll leave the record as is. I needed to confirm the author's credit as many publications have the same story as by "Victor Rowan". Obviously someone made a mistake decades ago (in the Not at Night series) and it's been perpetuated since. I'll link the Amazon image. Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Linking an OCLC record

You recently created a record which linked to the OCLC record like this:

OCLC Worldcat: <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/52562269?tab=details">52562269</a>

The standard format for linking to an OCLC record is:

OCLC: <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/52562269">52562269</a>

You can get a "clean" URL by clicking on the Permalink at the upper right of the OCLC record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:38, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just cut and pasting what I got from what somebody else had put in a record from this site. I'll do better, I hope. MLB 08:44, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

The Night Room

I accepted the submission adding this record to the database. A question: is it "Junior Library Guild" or "Junior Literary Guild"? Also, how is it given in the book? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

The title page is reprint from the Viking printing, but the back cover clearly states that "This is a Junior Library Guild selection, chosen as an outstanding book for boys and girls. (Y Group)" Then underneath this short paragraph it also states that this is a "Book Club Edition". I seem to remember, maybe wrongly, that you once stated that book clubs would often reprint the copyright pages from the standard trade editions. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, I can make it right. MLB 08:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I just needed to confirm that it states "Junior Library Guild". There was once a well-known book club for children named the "Junior Literary Guild".
The name of the book club should follow the name of the publisher, i.e. "Viking / SFBC", or "Viking / BOMC". If the book club isn't known, but the book is obviously a book club edition, it's entered as "Viking / BCE". Since the book club's name is stated in this case, then it should be given as "Viking / Junior Library Guild". I wish book club names were entered differently, because the same format also indicates "Imprint / Publisher". But that was how it was when I got here, and I just went along with it. Probably would have been better if the format had been "Publisher (Book Club)", e.g. "Viking (Junior Library Guild)". But it's too late to change it now, unless someone can come up with a program which can change all of the records en masse. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I corrected the publisher field, and noticed that you've done an OCLC verification and linked the record to an OCLC record. That OCLC record is for the trade edition not the book club edition. Unless there's a mention of "book club" in the OCLC record, it should not be linked to the ISFDB record for the book club edition. Please remove the confirmation and link when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:09, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Done. MLB 08:22, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Little Leather Library

Since it appears only moderators can add links and notes to publisher pages, I've done that for this publisher. So I removed the publisher-specific notes you added to this record to the publisher page. Still can't figure out why non-moderators can't add links or notes. Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to add. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:21, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I accepted the submission adding The Gold-Bug to the database, but removed the publisher-specific notes. Also, I added the missing content record, a requirement for CHAPTERBOOK-type records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:27, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, will eliminate all that content from future listings. I was unsure as how much to edit out. Now I know. MLB 19:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Publication notes should be specific to the publication, and not specific to the title nor the publisher. Mhhutchins 20:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Some of mine state on the back cover that they are Redcraft editions, but the covers are green not red, could the color of the covers have changed over the years due to poor storage conditions? MLB 20:42, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect image upload

I had to delete the cover image file which you uploaded and linked to this record. You used the wrong function to upload the file. Please go to the record, click on the "Upload cover scan" link. This is the ONLY was to upload cover images to the ISFDB server. DO NOT USE the "Upload file" link on the wiki pages to upload cover images. Mhhutchins 17:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, corrected. MLB 07:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

"Flint the Knife", by Mary Kirchoff and Douglas Niles

Your verified publication listed a set of maps as by "uncredited". I filled in the credit to Steve Sullivan, based on the signatures on the maps. Chavey 04:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I must of missed the signature, thanks. MLB 07:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Battle Royale

I accepted your submission of the 8th printing of Battle Royale. Can you tell if 2003 is actually its publication date or if that might be a statement of the first edition's printing? --MartyD 11:25, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I think that I cloned it and forgot to change the date. On the copyright page it states the first printing is 2003-02-00 and the eighth printing is 2004-11-00. Will change immediately. MLB 12:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Dragon Rider

I accepted Dragon Rider and changed the publisher to just "Scholastic", which seems to be how we've been recording it. Thanks for the detailed note: I checked the 2011 edition's Look Inside, and it, too, just refers to Scholastic. It mentions Chicken House as the translation copyright holder and an original Chicken House edition that was an imprint of Scholastic, but gives no credit to Chicken House for the 2011 publication. --MartyD 11:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Introduction in Going Solo

I accepted Going Solo but changed the title assigned to the introduction. We don't seem to anticipate an entire book's having an untitled introduction, but I think this most closely aligns with the case of an untitled introduction to a story, such as we might find in an anthology. See the "Story Introductions" bullet in Help:Screen:EditPub#What_to_Include. The format specified for that is Story (Introduction), so I made this one be "Going Solo (Introduction)" and added a note that it is untitled. --MartyD 10:41, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. MLB 22:10, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Author's Note in Bound to Me

I accepted your Bound to Me clone, and I changed the "Author's Note" from SHORTFICTION / novella to ESSAY. Apologies if that was incorrect. --MartyD 10:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

No, you're right, thanks. MLB 22:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposed variant Washington Irving titles

I have on hold your three proposed variants of the Washington Irving titles. I suspect they should be rejected/cancelled, but I wanted to make sure. We don't use variants to record relationships between derivative works (there is no way to do this at the moment, except via notes). Variants are used only to record differences in title or author credit for the same work (by the same person/people, regardless of the credit). From your notes on the publications, these stories have been both condensed and further modified ("adapted for modern readers"), and so would not be the same works as the originals anymore. What do you think? --MartyD 11:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I think the practice is abhorrent. These are unauthorized posthumous collaborations in my opinion. It would be the same as dragging a likeness of a deceased famous somebody from the grave to sell toilet paper, something that they wouldn't think of doing in real life. I guess adaptations should be considered separate stories. I suspect they should be treated the same way as a comic or movie adaptations. I think this has come up before in your talk pages. Maybe there should be a separate category just for adaptations and novelizations. But then, what about the Reader's Digest materials and other materials like that? This all sounds like a rather tricky thing like a neophyte like me to get into. Maybe as a varient with a note in the story's Note field? I suspect there will be no good answer to this. MLB 20:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
It's been discussed before: the creation of a relationship function that would include adaptations, revisions, expansions, fix-ups, etc. Ideally, the function would tie two works together based on the text, a relationship which isn't covered by the variant function, which in its creation was only intended to indicate a change in title or author credit. This function was later used to tie a serial to a book publication, and, even worse, linking a translated work to the record for its original work, a dreadful mistake in my opinion, because these are basically two different works. Im Kreis is not By His Bootstraps. It is as much an "adaptation" of the original as the adapted stories in this Washington Irving collection. It's too late to repair the damage (again, only my belief) which was caused by making the variant function service translated titles. In an ideal database, or at least one I would create if I had the ability to write software, a single function could handle both translations and adaptations, etc. with a drop-down menu for the editor to use to describe the relationship between one work and another. The display would then make it clear how one work relates to another. You would know that All the Way Up, All the Way Down became a constituent part of The World Inside, that Death and Designation Among the Asadi became the prologue of Transfigurations, and that the novelette Blood Music was expanded into the novel Blood Music. All of those 1960s novels that John Brunner rewrote in the 1970s are now varianted to the original work, but according to ISFDB rules, they shouldn't be. For example Polymath (1974) is an almost 50% expansion of Castaways' World (1963). Any user familiar with the variant function would assume it's just a change in the title. If it weren't for the notes in the title record, there would be no way for a user to know that these are not the same work. (Rant over...keep moving...nothing to see here.) Mhhutchins 21:10, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, it's official, my head hurts, and I'm still confused. But, I was right, there is no good answer to this. MLB 08:15, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
No, and as Michael points out, we are not even consistent in our treatment, since we do use variants for translations (the problem with this one is immediately obvious the minute you have two translations of the same title into the same language by two different translators). Anyway, it is the way it is, and I only work here. I am going to reject those proposed variants. Please embellish the notes on the title records ([1], [2], and [3]) as you see fit. Thanks. --MartyD 11:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguating interiorart

When there is more than one interiorart record illustrating the same work, the titles are disambiguated by adding a bracketed number to each record after the first one. You'll need to change the parentheses to brackets for those content records in this publication. Mhhutchins 23:09, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. It was a long night. MLB 06:20, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Asimov's Science Fiction, October/November 2013

I keep messing this up. I only noticed that I had misspelled the title after I had submitted the recordd. I'll correct it if my submission is accepted. MLB 10:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

This should have been posted on the Moderator's Noticeboard. Posting it on your own page, you take a risk that no one will actually read it. Mhhutchins 18:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

BCE of The Thirteenth Tale

I've accepted the submission to add this record to the database, but made the following changes:

  • If the ISBN stated in a book club edition is the same as the trade publisher's edition, it should be recorded in the Note field. I moved the book club ID number to the ISBN/Catalog # field.
  • The OCLC record is for the trade publisher's edition, not this book club edition. I've removed the link.
  • I've added a note to the LCCN that it is stated in the book. If this isn't true, please remove it. (We would normally not give the LCCN in a record for the BCE unless it's actually stated in the book.)
  • Fixed the HTML to close the list.

Mhhutchins 18:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Still learning about these book club books. MLB 06:07, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Bi-monthly periodicals

When entering bi-monthly periodicals, you should use a dash, and not a slash, between the two months. I've corrected the title of this record and the disambiguated contents. Mhhutchins 23:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. MLB 06:07, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

The Creeping Kelp

If you think this may be a novel (more than 40,000 words) you could do an estimate of the word count to confirm the suspicion. Count how many full pages (you may combine partial pages to get a truer count), count the number of lines of each full page, get the average number of words in 10% of the lines on 10% of the pages. Then multiply the three figures to get an estimated word count.

Example: There are 100 full pages and forty lines per page. You count the words in the first four lines on every tenth page, which comes to 42, 37, 26, 49, 52, 36, 40, 29, 35, 55, and you come up with an average of 40 words (401 divided by 10). That means there's an average of 400 words per page. So the total word count would be 40,000, making it a novel.

Here's a word counter written by one of the ISFDB moderators, but you may have to have a Google account to access it. It will crunch the numbers for you by just filling in the colored fields. If you don't have access, just give me the count and I can do it for you. Mhhutchins 17:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

David Mitchell Turnbull, Chimeraworld #4

Do you still have access to your primary-verified Chimeraworld #4? I was wondering about David Mitchell Turnbull's author bio and what it says about him and his publications. I'm trying to figure out if he's the same person as David Turnbull, but the web offers no definitive connection. No urgency, feel free to disregard if too busy. Thanks! Dwarzel 21:05, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

It might take a while, but I'll try to track it down. I almost never throw or donate anything, although its becoming obvious that I'm going to do some serious housecleaning around here. A recent bookslide almost cost me the life of my cat. :-) MLB 06:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Mr. Dwarzel: Don't think I forgot. Still looking. It's around here somewhere. MLB 07:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Yardley's "The Container of Sorrows"

I accepted a submission that added a note to this title, giving original publication data as "Originally appeared in The Pedestal Magazine in 2009." But a subsequent submission replaces that info with "Originally appeared in The Gate: 13 Dark and Odd Tales in 2010.". Was this submission meant to replace the data given in the first one or did you intend to add a further publication to the field? I found the story on The Pedestal website and that it was reprinted in The Gate. Mhhutchins 15:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, it was a long night, and all I was doing was copying the information that is found on the copyright page which listed every reprinted story's first appearance. This information gave the publication's name and year, but not the month or day. So, looking at the acknowledgements I see that either the same story is given two publication dates, or another story is not given the original publication date it deserves. I should have caught this, I'm sorry; I guess I was just copying the acknowledgement’s page’s information on autopilot. Somebody, not me, is going to have to compare all three texts. MLB 08:48, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to reject the submission that replaces the original data, and add a note that the work was also reprinted in The Gate. Once a publication record for that anthology is in the db, the note can be adjusted. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:24, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Asimov's Science Fiction, October-November 2013

Added scan for your verified here. Hauck 13:43, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. MLB 20:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

"Dark Universe", by William F. Nolan

The introduction listed in your verified publication was listed as: 

“ ‘ The Waiting, Windless Dark ’ ”: William F. Nolan's Universe

where I've added extra spaces around the punctuation to make it clearer. This is a very odd punctuation, and is presumably copied from the WorldCat record, which also lists it that way. I couldn't find a "look inside" for the book, so I looked at several online pages that mentioned the introduction (which had many punctuation variants of it), and used this reference to replace the double punctuation with single quotes: 

'The Waiting, Windless Dark': William F. Nolan's Universe

I hope that's appropriate. Chavey 13:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it is " 'The Waiting, Windless Dark' ": William F. Nolan's Universe. I suspect the title of the introduction wasn't by Christopher Conlon; the reason for odd punctuation is that on page fifteen, at the end of the introduction, Conlon uses the phrase "The windless dark awaits." I suspect that somebody, remember this was Leisure Books, known for its, ahh, editorial liberties, paraphrased this sentence as a quote for the introduction. But, that's only speculation. Anyway, I hope that this answers your question. MLB 03:09, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Father to Son

Can you confirm that there is an ISBN-13 printed in this 2002 publication? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 17:04, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Same question for this one, this one, this one, and this one. Mhhutchins 17:08, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


Father to Son / Destroyer #129 / ISBN: 0-373-63244-4 / Found in bar code box
The Nano Menace / D. F. Rider / ISBN: 0-7807-4352-0 / Found on back cover
Brand of the Werewolf & Fear Cay / Doc Savage #13 / ISBN: 1-932806-86-5 & ISBN: 9768-1-932806-86-1 / Found on back cover in bar code box

or Father to Son, The Nano Menace, and Brand of the Werewolf. Most of these did not have ISBN-13s, I just listed or confirmed what was on the books, or in the case of the Destroyer books, pre-existing records. The other two Destroyer books are packed away in storage and it will take a while to find them. Why? What did I do wrong? MLB 01:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

When creating or updating a publication record, you should use the ISBN stated in the book itself. The system will display both ISBNs on the publication record page, but will display only the entered ISBN on the title record page. For example, look at the title record for Father to Son. You'll see an ISBN-13 for a 2002 publication. The ISBN-13 didn't exist before 2005, and didn't become required until 2007. So it's important to record the ISBN as is. If a book has both, use the ISBN-13. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger...there are hundreds of records in the database for pre-2005 publications that have an ISBN-13. I'm going through the list and notifying the editors of those records which have been primary verified. Would you like to update these records or should I?
You say that Brand of the Werewolf & Fear Cay has an ISBN-13. If so, that's proof that the publication date on the record is wrong. But be careful, an EAN can be confused for an ISBN-13 because it is also 13 digits. The EAN is a numbered representation of a barcode, so unless the word "ISBN" is stated above the barcode, it is probably an EAN, and not an ISBN-13. Mhhutchins 02:18, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Corrected the date of publication to the Brand of the Werewolf & Fear Cay publication. Then kicked myself. The rest of my family volunteered to kick me too, but I had to threaten to cut them out of my will (no $1.95 after my death) if they did so.
I remember reading on this site that there will be an automatic ISBN-13 generated if an ISBN-10 is listed. I can't correct something that I have no control over. If these books don't have an ISBN-13 how can I check them or correct them? Be glad to do it, to correct it, but how? Check 'em out on Amazon? Anyway, if you can, please do so. MLB 07:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
As I wrote above: the publication record will display both, but the title record will only display the ISBN which was entered into the publication record. When you edit publication records, you should see the entered ISBN in the Update screen. That ISBN should match the one in the publication. No ISFDB record for a book published before 2005 should have a 13 digit ISBN in the "ISBN / Catalog #" field when the book is displayed on the title record page (use the title reference link to get back to a title record from a publication record.) Books published from 2005 onward may have either (some publishers were slow to convert) or both. From 2007 all books were required to have an ISBN-13, but again, I still see some small press and self-published books are still using the ISBN-10. In those cases, you should enter the ISBN-10. It's what appears in the book that should be your guide, not the Amazon listing which will list both ISBNs. OCLC lists both as well, but most of the time, the one that is actually printed in the book is listed first on the ISBN line of an OCLC record. Mhhutchins 19:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Neuromancer / The Steel Tsar variant mismatch + date error?

Hi. I have on hold one of your interiorart / coverart variant submissions. It would make interiorart Neuromancer by Crisp a variant of cover The Steel Tsar by Grant. I'm guessing you meant one of those to be something else. While looking at that, I noticed the Neuromancer entry has a date of 1886: should it be 1986? Thanks. --MartyD 13:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

All true. I'll cancel it and redo it. MLB 06:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Miscredited interior art

I accepted the submission updating this record, but you'll have to change those records which were miscredited back from "uncredited" to the artist for which you have a reliable secondary source as the credit. Unlike miscredited authors, if a piece of interior art (or cover art for that matter) is miscredited, it's OK to correct the credit, and give the miscredit in the note field along with an explanation and source for the correct credit. Crediting it to "uncredited" leads a user to mistakenly believe that there is no credit at all. Mhhutchins 20:39, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay. MLB 17:00, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
There was another content which had been miscredited other than the Brautigam but I can't remember which one. Do you? Mhhutchins 17:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Oh yeah. I forgot. It was The Kingdom Beyond the Waves. I'll correct it now. Sorry. Still learning. MLB 18:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Publisher check

Can you see if Spectra alone is credited as the publisher on the title page of this book? Most books from the Spectra imprint are entered as "Spectra / Ballantine Books" (starting in 2009). Thanks. for checking. Mhhutchins 18:53, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

One more to check here. Is there a mention of Bantam or Ballantine on the title page? Mhhutchins 19:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm looking, I suspect they're in storage. MLB 23:36, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

The Return

Please check to see if the ISBN-13 is present in this publication. If so, your estimate of 2002 as year of publication is too early. Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, if Signet is the imprint and New American Library is given as the publisher on the title page, it should be entered in the record as "Signet / New American Library".

One last thing: the closing HTML attribute should be identical to the opening one, but with a slash. This one's missing an "L" so it didn't close properly. You can see this from how the record is displayed. (I've corrected several of these over the past few weeks and just wanted to bring it to your attention.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:35, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I put the "Circa" in there because of the touting of Bentley Little's collection on the cover. Laziness on the publisher's part is probably why they didn't change the touting to his more recent novel. I see now in the back that The Burning is listed as his most recent novel, and that's 2006. I'll change it.
No, there is no "New American Library" mentioned anywhere on the title page, I'll add it. Again, laziness on their part? Will fix the HTML attribute. MLB 13:59, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Submission accepted. You forgot to correct the closing HTML. Mhhutchins 14:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Dead Cat...

Can you confirm the credit iin this publication? Is the author spelled "Gerard Hourarner" or Gerard Houarner? Also, the ISBN is missing a digit. Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:16, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

This is my dyslexia acting up again. Will correct it and the The Island request from before (just found that book). 14:19, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
When you change the author credit of a pub record, you should also change the credit in the title (reference) record. Mhhutchins 14:43, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Cemetery Dance #65

I just did a second primary verification of this record and changed the page count from 144 to 148. We inclue covers in the page count field of magazines. Please be sure other issues you've entered also include them. Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:33, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

The following changes were also made:
  • Corrected the author of the Masterton review on page 30 to "W. D. Gagliani".
  • Changed the piece on page 51 from ESSAY to INTERVIEW
  • Corrected the starting page of "After-Words" (and its illustration) from 62 to 60, and removed the series data from the title (it's not really a subtitle).
  • Corrected the starting page of Bell's "The Book of the Dead" (and its illustration) from 117 to 118.
  • Removed and deleted the record for a second illustration to the above story. It's not a new work but a detail of the other piece.
  • Removed and deleted the INTERIORART record for the photograph of the author on page 125. We don't enter photographs as INTERIORART unless they illustrate a work of fiction.
  • Corrected the starting page for "The Town Suicide" from 131 to 128, and its illustration from 129 to 128.
I also created publication records for those titles that were reviewed but not in the database, and then linked the reviews to the titles. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
One last thing: my copy is priced at "$5.00 US/$7.00 CAN". Does your copy give the price as $6.00? Mhhutchins 15:27, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, all true, I was still learning at this point (I'm a slow learner). Since then I no longer list photographs or cropped artwork, as far as the page numbers go, don't know, and I only listed what was on the title page to "After-Words". I now go page-by-page of my magazines. This is how I'm finding interviews and reviews that often buried in columns and articles. And yes, the Canadian pricing is $7.00.
What about the US price? You had it as $6, but my copy has $5. Mhhutchins 20:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
By-the-way, this from issue #70 was a typo, not a variant. I thought that I had corrected it. MLB 20:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
It's a variant because of the author, not the title. I'll fix the typo. Mhhutchins 20:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Column titles in Asimov's

It may not have been pointed out before, but when disambiguating column titles in Asimov's Science Fiction, the format should be "Title (Asimov's, Month Year)". Take a look at previous issues and you'll see that is the standard. The titles in this record will have to be corrected. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:17, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Analog, December 2013

Arlan Andrew, Sr. is an alternate name for Arlan Andrews. I have submitted a change making this a pseudonym work for him. Likewise, David Livingstone Click is an alternate name for David Clink. Funslinger 19:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. MLB 21:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Roberts' Entranced

Is the piece titled "The Donovans (Donovan's family timeline)" in this record actually an illustration or a chart? Either way it should not be disambiguated in the title (unless there's another work which is identically titled and credited). Mhhutchins 23:17, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I changed the publication date of this record based on Amazon.com data. Any source that gives January 1 as the publication date is suspect, especially for older books where the date defaults to the first day of the year. Mhhutchins 23:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Now I know. I will change the first to "Chart", and add a note. Didn't know about the second bit of information. Now I know (2). MLB 23:27, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
But is this chart an illustration? Ordinarily a chart would be typed as ESSAY unless there are some graphic elements involved. And the only reason to disambiguate it is if it's an illustration (like a map or frontispiece).Mhhutchins 23:30, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Its a chart. I didn't know that charts were considered essays. Now I know. Will change. MLB 23:35, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Melusine

Re this record: The LCCN given in the book should be the one stated in the ISFDB record. If there is a later LCCN, and it is the only one on the LoC website, that should be made clear as well. There is a record of the Harper & Row edition on the LoC website (the LCCN you say is stated in the book.) Paperback publishers often give the LCCN of an earlier edition. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:29, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I thought that I had made it clear. The LCCN number that I listed takes you directly to a record of my paperback copy. I will reword the note. MLB 23:38, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Kevin Anderson "Foreward"

You merged two records into this one, dropping "Foreword' and keeping "Foreward". Are you certain this is the correct spelling? Mhhutchins 21:15, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Lets make one thing clear. I am a fricking idiot. You have taken me to task before because of my blind spots when it comes to spelling. I will correct immediately. MLB 08:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

"The Priestess of Pain" and R. T. M. Scott(s)

I have on hold your submission that would make Priestess of Pain a variant to R. T. M. Scott, Sr. According to SFE, Maitland Scott was the name under which R. T. M. Scott, Jr. wrote. Have you something specific citing Sr. as the author for this particular story? Thanks. --MartyD 11:08, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

No, I didn't know that there was a senior and a junior. This is what I used. MLB 11:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
As the submitter, you have the option to cancel a submission without having to wait for a moderator to reject it. Mhhutchins 05:27, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
The page you cite shows just the two stories we have credited to Sr., so that seems to further corroborate SFE's explanation of the two names. I will reject the submission. Thanks. --MartyD 11:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Essays for Galaxy Press editions

I have put your submission on hold to put the date for Kevin J. Anderson's essay in this publication to unknown. While this possibly (or even probably) is true, this way we would lose information. After all, it is possible that this is the first publication of the title and it was in every case most probably first published in the last half of the decade. What do you think to leave the date as it is and instead add an explaining note to the title? Stonecreek 13:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Works for me. What is needed is somebody with a complete collection of these editions to pinpoint the first printing of this article so that the correct date can be assigned. Too bad some authors don't get involved with this site involving their works. It can only help them in the end. MLB 18:27, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Good, I rejected your first submission. Our hope is that there will be different people who happen to have some of the editions who are willing to verify their books. I'd say that with enough time there'll be a clarification. Don't you think? Stonecreek 19:34, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

ISBN for 100 Dastardly...

The ISBN on your proposed 100 Dastardly... submission, 1-56610-107-6, turns up with a checksum error. Would you double-check if it should be 1-56619-107-6 instead? Thanks. --MartyD 21:30, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

I need new glasses. The ISBN is 156619-107-6. Sorry. MLB 09:27, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. All set. --MartyD 10:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Brandilyn Collins

I have massaged Brandilyn Collins's biblio based on your submissions -- could you please take a look and see if everything looks OK? TAI! Ahasuerus 20:09, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes. This is the same author. Both books are mentioned on her website. Since I don't own anything else by her I cannot vouch for how genre oriented the rest of her material is. Thank you for finding this site. MLB 20:23, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for checking! BTW, did you notice that I rejected the submission that would have put the COVERART record for one of the pubs into the series? Ahasuerus 20:28, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
No, thank you for correcting this mistake. MLB 20:42, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Silverberg's Blood on the Mink

Can you confirm that the publisher of this book is given as Hard Case Crime or if that is the publication series from Titan Books? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:16, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I think that we've gone over this before. Leisure Books, Titan and Subterranean Press have all published Hard Case books, all with the stylized banner that the Hard Case books have pasted on them. Due to a blown knee, it will take me a couple of days to find this book, as I have recently stored some stuff in, um, storage. On the other hand, my copy of Max Allan Collins' novel Seduction of the Innocent is attributed to Hard Case Crime and Harlen Ellison's Web of the City is attributed to Edgeworks Abby / Hard Case Crime. So until I can locate this book, I'm sure that I listed only what was on the title page, and that would have been Hard Case Crime, although I am ok with listing them as Hard Case Crime / Titan. MLB 12:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
The fact that it's been used by different publishers convinces me it's an imprint or publication series and not a true publisher. Please update the record if you find that this edition was published by Titan. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:05, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
BTW, the current record for Web of the City gives the publisher as Titan. Mhhutchins 15:07, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Time to archive?

Your talk page is becoming extremely long, and has been slow at loading the last couple of times I've visited. Please consider archiving the older messages when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Done. Let's hope that I got it right. MLB 08:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

"Alex Archer"

FYI, I have created variant titles for "Rogue Angel" 39 and 43. When the publisher says "Special thanks to XYZ" on the copyright page, it means that the book was written by XYZ. It's pretty much an industry standard these days -- they do the same thing with Daisy Meadows, Adam Blade, etc. Ahasuerus 19:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I realize what you say is true, however, I just thought that "Special thanks to . . . " should be mentioned in the note field. If I'm wrong about this then I'll stop doing it. MLB 06:58, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
No, no, that's fine. I didn't realize that you were going to VT these titles and add notes. More information is always good :-) Ahasuerus 06:01, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Countdown publisher

Would you give me more specifics on the identification of the publisher in your proposed Countdown clone submission? I am pretty sure "Troll Special Edition" isn't a publisher. Troll might be, but I haven't been able to find any sources indicating they ever published this -- everything points to Hyperion. If you'd tell me exactly what it says on the title page, the publisher/edition-oriented wording on the copyright page, and any publisher/edition-oriented wording and logos from the cover and spine, I should be able to make a suggestion. Thanks. --MartyD 13:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay: Title page states: Hyperion Paperbacks for Children. However, copyright page states Reprinted by arrangement with Hyperion Books for Children. Back cover states Hyperion Paperbacks for Children on the left bottom cover, HOWEVER, where the bar code should be, there is no bar code and no ISBN number, there is a blank space with Troll Special Edition in big bold letters centered in it. Troll is also in a small yellow box on this book's spine. I'm assuming that this is some sort of book club edition. And I have been informed, several times, that many book clubs just automatically reprint the original publisher's publishing information. In toto. I think that I stated that the information found on the copyright page may be unrealible. I have a cover scan, which is slightly different than that of the Hyperion edition's, but I guess that I should have scanned the back cover also. Which I can't do for a while, as the scanner I use is at my public library. As far as I know, and I could be wrong, Troll is now defunct, so I don't know how to look it up. School book clubs are such fun to document. MLB 06:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Fascinating. It looks like "Troll Special Edition" would be the publisher series, although it seems as if that's a monniker for a book club. I wonder if Troll published it or if Hyperion published it for the club. Various online sellers seem to treat these books as from the original publishers, then noting "Troll" as an imprint and/or "Troll Special Edition" as the series. I've solicited a more expert opinion about how we should record it. By the way, I see your verified Pleasing the Ghost handles what sounds like the same situation differently from what you propose here. Stay tuned. --MartyD 12:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
As far as I know, Troll was a book club for children that made direct sales at school book fairs and to school libraries. I don't believe they were ever sold on the retail market. (I could be wrong.) From the description of the publisher statement on the title page, and the copyright page, which looks like it is identical to the trade edition, I would enter the publisher as "Hyperion Paperbacks for Children / BCE" or to be specific "Hyperion Paperbacks for Children / Troll Book Club". The problem with this format is that it is similar to the one used by the ISFDB for "Imprint / Publisher". I've been mulling this over for a while now, and have come to the conclusion that the way the ISFDB handle book club editions should not use the same format. When I've had a time to think it over more thoroughly, I'll present my case on the community portal. Mhhutchins 15:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll make it be that way for now (using the Troll Book Club -- seems worth preserving the Troll in a visible way). I will also change Pleasing the Ghost to be done the same way. It's too bad publisher series doesn't support subseries. We could almost use that for recording book club editions.... --MartyD 19:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't think of book club editions as a publication series. It's simply the original publisher giving another publisher (the book club) the rights to reprint the title for its subscribers. That wouldn't fall into any definition of publication series of which I'm aware. Mhhutchins 19:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Never Let You Go

Are you certain that "Love Inspired Suspense" is an imprint, as shown in this record? It seems more like a category, like Ace Fantasy, or Tor Science Fiction. How is it stated in the publication? Mhhutchins 18:54, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Harlequin has done several Christian imprints over the years. "Next" and "Steeple" (I think it was called) and at least one other. I picked this book up as part of an introductory offer and it clearly states, on the title page, the spine, and on the book's back cover Harlequin © Love Inspired © Suspense. Until I had got these, I had never heard of this imprint either. However, they now print the books of suspense writer Vicki Hinz. See here for an example of this imprint. MLB 05:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The example you linked to gives the publisher as "Love Inspired" on the title page, and "Suspense" on the cover, suggesting a category as I mentioned above. And "Love Inspired Books" on the copyright page. I could find no mention of "Harlequin". But if your copy gives the entire name on the title page, I'll let the matter drop. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:32, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

A whole new year of Asimov's

In response to your note to the moderator about Asimov's, Jan 2014, here's what you need to know:

  • For each "year" we have a single title record, which we place in the magazine's series.
  • To start a new year, or to start a new magazine where yearly consolidation will be desirable, once the submission of the issue is accepted (as yours, above, is now), you go to the title record and edit it:
    • Make it reflect the format: Asimov's Science Fiction - 2014
    • Change the date to have zeroes for the month and day: 2014-00-00
    • Put it in the series: Asimov's Science Fiction

That's it. Then subsequent issues can use Add Publication to this Title or can merge their titles into that one for the year. I left it for you to try your hand at. As with everything else, it's moderated, so you can't do any harm. If you'd rather I do it, let me know. --MartyD 13:22, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

No, I should try it myself. I can't learn if I don't try. Let's hope I get it right. Your job is still safe. ;-) MLB 13:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Looks like you got it right. One step closer to retirement for me.... --MartyD 12:16, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Analog 2014-01&02

Hello, I've placed the publications series in the overall scheme of Astounding/Analog. I've also added the short story by Brenta Belvins on page 96. Hauck 14:16, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Dead Reckonings #12

In creating records for unlinked reviews in this publication, I saw that you made the reviews of stories by D. H. Lawrence into essays. You may not be aware, but you can create REVIEW type records instead of ESSAY for spec-fic SHORTFICTION titles. The system links them just as it does for book title records (if it can find an exact match and they're entered as REVIEWs.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:16, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay, will do. MLB 08:18, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Submission to remove accepted. Now you'll have to delete the essays records from the database. You will also have to manually link the review of "Glad Ghosts". The system will only automatically link reviews with titles at the time of the review's creation. Any change to the record requires that you use the "Link Review to Title" function. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:47, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Okay. MLB 09:14, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

100 Hair-Raising Little Horror Stories

Hello, Mark. I've put your submission on hold. You want to change the date from 1993-09-00 to 1993-00-00. Is there a reason for that, that is: do you know that it wasn't published in September? Christian, Stonecreek 10:29, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

September was the date that was originally entered for this anthology, however, Amazon lists June as the date. There is no way at this late date, I guess, to verify which date is correct. So I decided to just use the date that that used in the book. MLB 10:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Okay, will approve immediately. Thanks for the explanation. Stonecreek 10:56, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Rocket Girls: The Last Planet

Added Canadian and UK cover prices to your verified pub. Thanks. PeteYoung 04:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Jason V. Brock

In your verified The Weird Fiction Review #3, Fall 2012, there is an essay as by Jason V. Brock. This is probably Jason V Brock (no period after the V). Would you mind double checking the period or whether a variant needs to be created? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

It's Jason V Brock, no period. I keep being told that to always put the period in the name. Sorry if I messed up. I will correct it. MLB 09:11, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Variety Novels Magazine

Hello, Mark- I've put your submission on hold, because to me it looks like you want to put a publishing series into the place of a title series. I believe Adventure House to be a publisher, so that Variety Novels Magazine: Adventure House Reprints should be by definition a publication series. Stonecreek 14:58, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps, but this was started before I started editing here, and I've been adding to it ever since, as most of these are from my copies of this facsimiles. MLB 22:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
P.S.: I'm sure there are more, but I can't buy everything. MLB 22:31, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Well, who can? I approved of the submission, thanks for explaining. Stonecreek 09:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
My father used to say "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" MLB 12:05, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

The King of Elfland's Daughter

Have replaced Amazon link with a scan of my verified copy in The King of Elfland's Daughter http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258154 Prof beard 11:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Feb or Mar Asimov's?

Can you determine if this is the February or March 2014 issue? The title field and the date field don't match. If the date field is wrong, you'll have to change the date of each of the content records, and the cover art record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:17, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

You'll also have to correct the disambiguated content titles: Next Issue, On Books, and SF Conventional Calendar (which is currently missing a disambiguation). Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:19, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Corrected MLB 23:42, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, you didn't change the publication date and the dates of each of the content fields and cover art record as requested. Mhhutchins 02:02, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Michaels' Other Worlds

If you want to confirm the title in a book which is missing its title page, you can use OCLC, which as a rule records titles from title pages. Also, if this record is a collection, please add the story contents, and then import them to the trade edition. A question: how is the publisher given? I know missing a title page takes away the ISFDB source for publisher credit, but where did "Chivers Press" appear in the book? The OCLC record gives only G. K. Hall as the publisher. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

•There is no title page, but this book was listed on this site as a collection, and and I went with it, as it is, but it is marketed as both. On the back cover it states "There the conversation turns to murder--two very scary cases indeed . . .", then the product description calls this a novel ". . . this thrilling new novel." There is no contents page. In my review of this book on Amazon, I mention that this book reads like two failed novel projects tacked together with a contrived framing device. I left a note about this on my listing. If you want to change this listing to a novel, feel free.
•On the back cover it states, under the bar code box, in large bold letters, G. K. Hall and Chivers Press. MLB 23:42, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
I only asked because you added a note "Will listed as a novel in many places, this is collection of two ghost novellas." If that's true then you should add content titles for each. If you feel it's a novel (it's your record), then update the record. That's entirely up to you. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:19, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Changed it to a novel and revised the note explaining that this is a book with two novellas that are bound together with linking materials. This is probably a more accurate description than calling it a collection. MLB 01:15, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Wolves of the Calla

If this is taller than 7 inches or 18 centimeters, it should be entered as "tp". Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

I am working away from home due to an ice-out, will double-check as soon as power is up, and I can post it the information. MLB 01:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

King's 'The Final Argument"

Are you certain that the work is spelled "Arguement"? If so, that's a mispelling, and should be noted. Also, if you change a content record's title in a publication update, you don't have to make a second submission to change the content's title record. Changing either one changes both. Mhhutchins 02:49, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Just got my power back, will correct everything. MLB 11:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
No, it's "Argument", sorry. MLB 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
You have the option of cancelling a submission instead of waiting for the moderator to reject it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Cover image for February issue of Asimov's

I have to delete the cover image file you uploaded for Asimov's February issue, because you uploaded it to the wiki directly instead of from the link on the publication record. Please try again by clicking on the link "Upload New Cover Scan". Also, you've still not corrected the problem about the dating of the issue which I brought to your attention here. Thanks. Mhhutchins 08:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

The record also appears to have the wrong price: the cover is priced at $4.99. Mhhutchins 08:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Leviathan

If there is "no exact printing date or price to be found anywhere in or on this publication", you should have provided your source for that data in the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:10, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Blood Cursed

I'm holding a submission to update this publication record, but it adds a cover image for Sunken Pyramid, the next book in the series.

I'm also holding your next submission to update the same record (for Blood Cursed), but changes the date, ISBN, cover image, and accompanying notes to match that of Sunken Pyramid. I think you clicked on the wrong record to update.

I'm also holding a submission to update the title record for Blood Cursed to add a synopsis that starts ""Deep in the Bavarian forest...". Is this the correct synopsis for this title?

Let me know if you want me to accept the submissions. If I do, you're going to need to make some corrections. Or you can cancel the submissions and start again. Here are the notes you added in each submission which will save you some time to re-create the submissions:


No numberline, presumed first printing. Book is unnumbered. The numbering of this book results from Amazon.com's product page as of 2013-12-13. Alex Archer is a house name. "Special thanks to Michele Hauf for her contribution to this work" quoted from this book's copyright page. Forty-fourth novel in this series. Series is unnumbered. Book number is arrived at from counting the number of books published so far. "The Legend" is a one page coda describing the origin of Annja Creed's sword that appears as a prologue in every novel in this series Novel starts on page seven. Tim Bradstreet is credited for the cover art on this book's back cover Robert Goshgarian is credited for the "photo" on this book's back cover, although which photo is not made clear. $7.99 in Canada. OCLC: 828488391. OCLC: 862062853. E-book OCLC: 858876756.


No numberline, presumed first printing. Forty-fifth in this series. Series is unnumbered. The numbering of this book results from Amazon.com's product page as of 2013-12-13 and from counting the number of books published so far Alex Archer is a house name. "Special thanks to Jean Rabe for her contribution to this work" quoted from this book's copyright page. "The Legend" is a one page coda describing the origin of Annja Creed's sword that appears as a prologue in every novel in this series Novel starts on page seven. Tim Bradstreet is credited for the cover art on this book's back cover Robert Goshgarian is credited for the "photo" on this book's back cover, although which photo is not made clear. $7.99 in Canada. OCLC: 843856658. E-book OCLC: 862148278.

Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:01, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I have completely redone the Blood Cursed entry, including the plot synopsis. Yes that was a direct quote of the correct synopsis, from the Worldcat site, which is abreviated from the back cover of the paperback. MLB 19:13, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
I have just redone the submission for Sunken Pyramid from scratch. Let's hope I got it all right this time. MLB 19:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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