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Welcome!

Hello, LeighBlackmore, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Kevin 15:36, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The Space-Eaters

Hi - Welcome to the ISFDB. Thanks for your submission of notes. One of your submission was a statement that the short story The Space-Eaters was not appearing on the list of works by Belknap Long Frank Belknap Long. I understand your confusion (it's happened to all of us), but we only want each short title to only appear once on each author's page. Because the short story is part of the Cthulu Mythos series, it appears higher on the authors page. It is the first story in the section titled Short Fiction Series. Because it appears in the series section, it does not appear in the section titled Shortfiction. But thanks very much for checking. It's sharp eyes going over (and over) the database that lets us find mistakes and omissions. - And once again, Welcome to the ISFDB. Kevin 15:46, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

21st Century Gothic

Hi. I accepted your submission for 21st Century Gothic, but it contained no modifications. I can't tell if you thought you needed to submit it solely due to your having made yourself Primary Verifier (you don't -- marking yourself a verifier is an unmoderated activity and takes effect right away) or if something got lost, so please review if you intended to change something.

A further comment about that existing entry: If you come across a note citing a secondary source (Amazon, Locus, etc.), especially on a publication record with no verifier, it usually means the entry was constructed from the secondary source(s) and not from a copy of the book. So if you have the book, and its details match what's in the record, you should adjust the note accordingly: Remove the reference to the secondary source or modify the statement to cover just the data elements not found in the book. For example, in this case, if your book says "First Edition: December 2010", you should remove the statement about the date's coming from Amazon. On the other hand, if your book has no stated publication date, you might reword the note to say that: "No publication date stated; date from Amazon" or some such.

If you run across a case where you're not quite sure, just ask (or take your best shot and voice your concerns about what you've done in the note to the moderator). Thanks, and thank you for contributing. --MartyD 10:43, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

"A Sheaf of Horrific Delights"

Hi. I'm sorry, but I had to reject your submission that proposed changing A Sheaf of Horrific Delights from ESSAY to NONFICTION. The use of NONFICTION as a type is reserved to book-length works. Anything shorter that's not fiction and is not a Review or Interview we assign a type of ESSAY, even if it's not an essay. One of many little quirks waiting for you to run into them.... --MartyD 12:25, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

It's a long time since you made this note. I haven't been on ISFDB for a while but am now doing quite a lot. This work is in fact a review, so is it possible for you to change it to reflect that? LeighBlackmore 02:03, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Sure. What is it a review of? We handle genre books reviews and non-genre books reviews differently. Annie 02:06, 17 November 2019 (EST)
It was a review of a horror book or books. I regularly review for the critical journal DEAD RECKONINGS. Do you need more exact details of the book/s reviewed? Note: there are several other items on the list of my ';essays' which are in fact reviews. I'd like to change them to reflect their status as reviews as well. What's the best way?LeighBlackmore 02:15, 17 November 2019 (EST)
If you reviewed a book that is eligible for inclusion here (horror books are if they are speculative fiction - "tentacles are eligible, girl with an ax is not" is my usual example), then you need to add the review as a new item into the contents and then remove the essay. Then if we already have the book in the DB, the review will show up in the book's listing as well.
If the reviewed book is not eligible, then these remain essays but the title says "Review of non-genre book "Blah Blah"" as part of the title.
If you can point me to an essay and tell me which book it is for, I can give you a step by step again. And if you reviewed more than one book, we can add all of them and we can also keep the essay as an umbrella title IF it has anything besides the review itself.Annie 02:40, 17 November 2019 (EST)

1988 Terror Australis

Hi. I have your proposed addition of a 1988 Terror Australis on hold. You didn't supply contents, so it's difficult for me to tell: Might this be the same as the existing Terror Australis #1? You can reply here by editing this section. Indent your response by adding a colon at the beginning of the text, and don't forget to sign it by adding four tildes (~~~~) -- or use the "signature" button, 2nd from the right, at the top of the editor window -- at the end. Thanks. --MartyD 14:20, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Due to lack of reponse, and a guess by another moderator that you were actually trying to record this, I've rejected your submission. If it is not for one of the two issues, please re-enter with more details. Thanks. --MartyD 02:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the lack of response all that time ago. I believe I was trying to record Issue 2 of the magazine this as the other moderator guessed. But everything seems Ok with that entry, so no more to do as far as I can see.LeighBlackmore 02:06, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Naming conventions for magazines and fanzines

Because we are building grids for these, we have some requirements around name conventions. The basic syntax is "Name of the zine, Issue number" or "Name of the zine, Month and year" or combination of these. Then the date will tell the grid where to put something. So for your "Avatar No 3 (June 1995)", depending on what is printed on the fanzine itself, the name should be either "Avatar, No 3" or "Avatar, No 3, June 1995" and the date should be 1995-06-00. I chose the first but feel free to change it. Is there other contents besides yours in the fanzine? If not, remove the Incomplete I added. I also set up the series for it, moved the note to it (where it belongs) and got the editor record standardized. You can see the whole thing here. Thanks for adding it! Annie 23:05, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

Thanks again, Annie. You're teaching me well!LeighBlackmore 02:16, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Mantichore 1, No 2 (March 2006)

Hello again :)

So what is the number of this issue? 1.2? Volume 1, issue 2? Or is the fanzine name "Mantichore 1" and this is the second issue? I will approve and fix it but need to know how :) Annie 23:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)


Hi Annie. It is Volume 1, issue 2. Thanks for your help. I am just learning to edit here. - Leigh Blackmore (I'm not sure where to find the tilde on my keyboard).
That’s fine - everyone needs to start. :) I will fix it in a bit. :)
What kind of a keyboard do you have? Another way to sign is by pressing the sign button. When you are editing here in the wiki (not the site) look at the top of the message. Do you see the line of icons (some look like the ones from wordpad)? The one before the last (which looks like a signature a bit) will add the 4 tildes for you. --Annie 00:52, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

I don't see any icons, just the tabs at the top of the page. Where is the 'sign button' you mention? I suppose I could copy and paste the four tildes from the message under Terror Australis above? - Leigh

When you are editing any message, under the tabs and under the title and above the line starting with ==. they look like small pictures but are small buttons. The first one is B for bold, then I for Italic then Ab for a link and so on. and yes, you can always copy paste from above :) Annie 01:17, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

Got it now. Thanks Annie --LeighBlackmore 01:38, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

Recent Additions

I have approved a number of your recent additions, but made some changes to match ISFDB standards:

  • Prices should be entered with a currency symbol ($, £, etc.) as we deal in multiple currencies
  • Chapbook has a specific definition for ISFDB. It is a book with a single short story / poem. If it contains multiple, even two, we list it as a collection (single author) / anthology (multiple authors)
  • If a book doesn't have a price or ISBBN, that information goes into the publication notes; not in those fields
  • Where you left a moderator note stating you would enter the contents latter or you only listed your story and it seems there should have been more, I added a {{Incomplete}} template to indicate not all the contents were entered. This should be removed when you finish with the entry.
  • You are correct that for a mixed genre publication, we only list the genre contents. We add a note to the pub to state that.
  • Magazine ISSN's do not go into the ISBN field
  • For non-genre magazine, we don't credit the editor by name. We use "Editors of MAGAZINE NAME".
  • The Synopsis field is for a short blurb describing what the story, novel, etc. is about. We have a separate notes field for other notes. I moved your notes to the notes field.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:17, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

Pardon my ignorance, and many thanks for all your help. Just on the point of magazines which have ISSNs, is there a place to enter those, or does ISFDB not note ISSNs?LeighBlackmore 02:01, 17 November 2019 (EST)
You can add them in the notes - either in the issue itself or all the way up on the series level. Annie 02:14, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Thankyou :) LeighBlackmore 02:17, 17 November 2019 (EST)

And Then I Woke Up!

Did this have a date or a volume number? Magazines should have this in their titles.

You had a note of "Leigh Blackmore's story features collage illustrations by the author." I converted this to an interior art credit. By author, I assume you meant yourself as story author and not the editor.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:18, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

There was no date shown in the magazine although it was in fact published in 2009. No number either - it was a 'one-shot'. Thanks for what you did with the art credit, that was correct. :) LeighBlackmore 01:55, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Tide, Number 5

You did not fill in the format for this publication. However, you primary verified it. Since you have it, please fill in the correct format. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:18, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

I added some notes and a cover image. --Zapp 14:52, 12 November 2019 (EST)
JLaTondre - I'm sorry, I don't know how to go in and edit an entry once it is established. The magazine is in A5 format. Could you instruct me how to change it from 'unknown format' to A5?
Zapp - many thanks!LeighBlackmore 01:59, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Go to the publication. In this case here. Look at the top right corner. Locate the edit button. It opens this. Change the value in the drop down to A5, press "Submit Changed Data" at the bottom. Then a moderator needs to approve.
If you first find the title (here), look at the table at the bottom of the screen, the publications are there. Click on their name, then follow the above. Annie 02:21, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Cheers, I have submitted a request to indicate A5 format.LeighBlackmore 02:24, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Approved. One more thing you may have not noticed. There is a link on your page on the main DB My Changed Primary Verifications. Every time when someone edits the publication (just editPub), you will see a line there. If you open the last one that just appeared (my name is attached to it - click on the date in the third column) and look at the bottom, you will see a message from the person that did the change (if they left one). We use that as a notification system for small changes (it is the moderator note - so when you edit someone else's verified pub, always good to add a moderator note). If it is a big change, notifications are posted on these Talk pages here. For small stuff, that works wonderfully. Annie 02:35, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Dark Spirits

We credit authors listed as per the title page (publication or story title page as applicable). For Dark Spirits, the Amazon Look Inside shows it as "R. R. Lang" so I have changed the credit.

You also list this as a tp, but the only version on-line I can find is an ebook. Is the format correct? -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:25, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this. Apparently only the e-book is currently in print. The editor told me there would be a trade paperback but it seems not to have appeared yet. Is it possible to list e-books on ISFDB?LeighBlackmore 01:53, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Yep. I can convert that one to an ebook if you want and if this is what you have? Annie 02:12, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Yes, thanks, that's what I have. LeighBlackmore 02:18, 17 November 2019 (EST)
This one? Someone already converted it - so it is an ebook. Added the price to it. :) Annie 02:24, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Oh, great, thankyou LeighBlackmore 02:25, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Horrors of Sherlock Holmes

Hi, I completely edited your submitted collection Horrors of Sherlock Holmes into an ANTHOLOGY, as it contains works by more than one author. Being of 30cm height (according to the Australian National Library, that also provided the missing page numbers and the ISBN) it can't be A4 -which is a magazine size to begin with- so I made it a trade paperback.--Dirk P Broer 05:53, 5 November 2019 (EST)

Hi, I believe this change to be incorrect. The book is a collection of work by one author (me), which happens to have an introduction by another author (Peter H. Cannon). It is not an anthology, which is an edited collection of stories by different authors, usually by one or two editors.
Neither is it a trade paperback. The size of an A4 page or publication is (left and right side) 30 cm. So A4 is correct for this publication. Could you please revert the changes you made? Thanks.LeighBlackmore 01:38, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Hi Leigh, in ISFDB, A4 is a valid format only for magazines. For books, anything that is not a mass market paperback and is with soft cover is recorded as "tp". One of our quirks - don't think of "tp" as a standard trade paperback only - it is a catch all. You can mention that it is A4 in the notes. Here is the help page explaining that. :) Annie 01:40, 17 November 2019 (EST)
On the type. Here I see stories by three authors besides you. Are those your pseudonyms? Annie 01:43, 17 November 2019 (EST)

OK, 'quirk' noted. Let it be called a 'tp'. Unfortunately the entry seems to be screwed up (I don't know whether I did that or not). Steve Lines was one of the two illustrators of the collection. He provided artwork for front and back cover. (The other illustrator was Phillip Cornell who did internal illos). "The Arcana of Death" is by me, under my real name. "Exalted Are the Forces of Darkness" is also by me under my real name; the names against the story in this entry are those of the editors of the anthology "Gaslight Grotesque" (Edge Publishing, Canada), where that story first appeared in print. Are you able to fix all that up, or should I? LeighBlackmore 01:49, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Look at it now. Anything I missed? Annie 02:11, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Looks much more accurate. Only thing I see is that Steve Lines did exterior (not interior) artwork. Probably not a big deal.LeighBlackmore 02:20, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Oops. My bad. Help explains this "bc" I had in front of the interior art piece (another quirk) but as it is a book and not a magazine, we do something different if we record both. Fixed now. Look at it again? Annie 02:28, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Checked again, this looks great now. Thankyou! LeighBlackmore 04:30, 17 November 2019 (EST)

One of the editors of Studies in Australian Weird Fiction

Thanks for adding those! However, one of the editors here is given as Benjamin J. Szumsky, whereas the other two issues have Benjamin J. Szumskyj (with an appended 'j'). It seems possible that either of the two versions is a typo, so you might want to check on it.

I also changed the publisher to the already established 'Equilibrium' (Issue #3 still lacks an entry for this field), and have added an ',' to the titles, since that puts the issues into our 'trademark' issue grid. Thanks, Stonecreek 02:42, 14 November 2019 (EST)

Re: Benjamin J. Szumskyj, his name ends with a 'j'. The listing without the 'j' is a typo. Would you mind fixing that? Thankyou. And thanks for the other changes you made, I am still getting accustomed to adding info here. LeighBlackmore 01:40, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Done plus the needed variant is also done :) Annie 01:45, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Thankyou Annie. LeighBlackmore 01:50, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Please be sure to sign your talk and discussion page comments

You can do this by using four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments; this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, ask at the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:34, 14 November 2019 (EST)

Mythopoeia: The Newsletter of Dymocks Science Fiction & Fantasy

I accepted your submission of Mythopoeia: The Newsletter of Dymocks Science Fiction & Fantasy, but removed your note. Personal observations are generally not appropriate in the notes. You need to indicate the date and the volume/number, at least one of them in the title (to disambiguate the issue), and the other either in the title or in the note. I realize you likely produced a whole series of these pubs. You can enter all of them if you wish. The series can then have the note about what and why they were produced. I would hope you can set the dates for each issue, even if you no longer have a copy. Bob 13:05, 14 November 2019 (EST)

I only have one surviving issue of the run of this magazine. I can add the number and date of that one. LeighBlackmore 02:32, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Please do. Even if you do not own the rest, if you have data about them, you can add them as well. :) Annie 02:43, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Submitted the date for Issue 1, the only one I have. LeighBlackmore 04:30, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Adding essays

I see that you have a couple of essays added to the queue and these will need to be changed radically. Unless an essay is published as a separate book, they need to be added the other way around. You add the zine/magazine and you add the essay inside. We are a publication-based DB. I will convert those for you later tonight (putting them on hold now - need to check on eligibility as well so will need some time) and then come back with more explanations on what else we may need. Thanks for submitting them (regardless of how that ends up). :) Annie 16:28, 14 November 2019 (EST)

Ok. So here is the result of Red Viscous Madness (this submission after editing. And yes - the reprint can also be added - by adding the magazine that contains it. If you have all (or some) issues of "Red Viscous Madness", you can add them to the DB with their contents - it is exactly the kind of contents we DO want in the DB :) Annie 12:56, 15 November 2019 (EST)
PS: As I saw you have login issues for the wiki, make sure that you are using the same capitalization of the username when you try to login to the wiki: LeighBlackmore (same password as on the main site) will work; leighBlackmore won't. Annie 12:56, 15 November 2019 (EST)
And here is Shadowplay, No 9 - the result from this submission after some editing. :) If you can add the publisher, the editors and more details and the rest of the contents, it will be awesome. Let me know if you have any questions. Annie 13:01, 15 November 2019 (EST)


Many thanks for your help with all this Annie. I will see what I can do about adding further details to the entries. Re amateur press association zines, technically the publisher of each zine is the author of the zine - the apa only distributes the combined mailings and so is not technically the 'publisher'. But I imagine making this distinction might present problems for ISFDB, so leaving Esoteric Order of Dagon as the publisher for 'Red Viscous Madness' will be near enough.LeighBlackmore 01:42, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Nope - not a problem. Author as a publisher is common - a lot of small presses and self-published stuff in the DB. Do you want me to change that or do you want to try to edit and I can approve and assist? Annie 01:47, 17 November 2019 (EST)
I'll see whether I can change it. I'll let you know if I have problems.LeighBlackmore 02:26, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Is this http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/submitpub.cgi OK? LeighBlackmore 02:30, 17 November 2019 (EST)

The link you posted is a generic link so no idea what it was? But as I approved and changed it after that - just use your name. The "on behalf of" goes into the notes. Annie 02:45, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Terror Australis No 3

So... a few notes here because magazines are a bit weird here. This is the submission.

  • The EDITOR records for a magazine are by policy yearly records. So this one will be always called "Terror Australis - 1992"
  • The special name and number goes into the MAGAZINE record (the publication).
  • When you are creating a new magazine, it will automatically create both records with the same name, we edit the Title one (the EDITOR) later. Once created you have two separate entries so when you change the authors for example, you need to change in both. I did that for issue 1 and 2 and will do it for this one :)

I am approving this edit and then moving the data where it belongs - just wanted to explain what I am doing and why. If you have any questions, do ask :) About Sequeira: We may have more than the one. Let me do some digging. We connect them as pseudonyms and then variant the titles. Do you want me to teach you how or do you want me to just connect them? Annie 03:10, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Oh dear, how confusing. I'll get the hang of it eventually. Thanks once again. Umm - re Sequeira, could you just connect them for now? perhaps I'll learn to do that later. LeighBlackmore 03:13, 17 November 2019 (EST)
If it helps, magazines are the most confusing and complicated thing you can find in this DB. That and translations. :) Novels are so much easier... Just ask if you need help and don't worry if you are not sure - do whatever you think is right, add an explanation in the moderator note if it is not very clear what you are doing and the handling moderator will work with you - see above how everyone stopped by to ask questions :)
You know those binders where you bind a full year of magazines together? This is what our EDITOR records are. Except when there are different editors per issue (editor is a person, EDITOR is that big record for the year) - then we have an EDITOR for each editor group...
And sure - I will take care of Sequeira. Annie 03:23, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Oh, thanks for explaining all that. Makes more sense to me now. Thanks again! LeighBlackmore 03:24, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Anytime. I am sure that it is as clear as mud but it gets clearer when you see more of them. :)
Question: is Chris G. C. Sequeira and C. G. C. Sequeira him again? Looks like it but you would know better. Annie 03:28, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Yes Annie, they are all the same person.LeighBlackmore 03:33, 17 November 2019 (EST)

I will connect them then. Dabney Hoskins is all set. Annie 03:34, 17 November 2019 (EST)
All done: Christopher Sequeira. I also left you a few responses in previous threads above in case you missed them :) Annie 03:42, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Phillip A. Ellis

Unfortunately, we cannot link to this site. :( If you have permission, you can download the image and upload it here. If not, these are the sites we have permissions to link to. Annie 04:02, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Thanks for the list of sites you can link to. How can I simply upload an image without a url? (there only seems to be the option to put in a url - unless I'm missing something).LeighBlackmore 04:14, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Through the wiki. Here is the help page. for author images, you want the Direct Upload section. You upload it, now you have an URL and you know what to do with it :) Read the licensing section as well. Annie 04:20, 17 November 2019 (EST)

The Australian H. P. Lovecraft Centenary Calendar 1990-91

Art books and similar things go under NONFICTION :) Fanzines are for actual fanzines. Did a bit of an update on the author names - whatever you put in an Author field, that is what goes at the top of the author page. So cleaned Editor from the name of the editor and removed your name from the top level and instead added an actual introduction. The name of the publication in brackets is because you had written more than one introduction in your life (or you might) and a list of essays all called "introduction" is useless. So we disambiguate. :) And capitalized Centenary. I also cleaned the publisher - the city, country gets added to the notes of the publisher (here).

The result is here Annie 04:17, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Thanks Annie. You're a legend.LeighBlackmore 04:21, 17 November 2019 (EST)

A question on a different item. I have an essay in this http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1689706 9Masque Noir #3, 1999. But how can I add to the contents of the magazine when it is already listed?LeighBlackmore 04:25, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Do you remember how you changed the format of a magazine earlier? Same place for that. Go to the publication, press edit? So this link is the title. Look at the table on the screen in your link. Do you see "Masque Noir #3, September 1999" in the table below? Click on it. It opens this. Click edit, scroll down. Locate the "Add Title" button in the contents section (under the last story). When you press the button, it will open a line that allows you to add an entry. Add the essay. Submit at the bottom. Annie 04:31, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Thankyou, I don't know why I can't see what to do sometimes. Your help is much appreciated. I think I will call it a night now! More to come...:) LeighBlackmore 04:40, 17 November 2019 (EST)

It can be overwhelming. Have a good night! Annie 04:41, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Tabula Rasa, No 7, March 1995

Fixed the publisher (do not add "Sidney" in the name of the publisher please:) ) and the format of the title. When you are not adding the complete contents add a {{incomplete}} in the publication notes - so it is clear there is more work to be done. And I setup the series while I was at that. The result is here.

Just to confirm - is that a genre magazine? Annie 04:41, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Thanks so much. Yes, it's a genre magazine that started out under the name "Burnt Toast" as a Dr Who fanzine and gradually transmuted. Under its later title "Tabula Rasa" it was a horror criticism zine. It can also be found online but I'm still not sure if ISFDB references websites etc. Maybe you can let me know? LeighBlackmore 04:45, 17 November 2019 (EST)
Depends. We catalog fiction webzines that produce distinct issues. See our Rules of Acquisition. For non-fiction we are a bit more restrictive (being fiction DB and all that:)) but if it is about speculative fiction, it may be eligible. A magazine/fanzine that is eligible as a paper publication would remain eligible when it moves to the web usually - as long as it is actually producing issues and is not just a website or a blog now. If you post a link, I can take a look.
If under found online you mean the old issues that also have paper versions, then yep, we do link them in the notes when we know where they are. Annie 04:58, 17 November 2019 (EST)

Sharnoth's Spores and Other Seeds / Winds from Sheol

Hi, I found a eBay listing for your verified copy of 'Sharnoth's Spores and Other Seeds' and added content. You may want to review it. I also started a bit on your verified copy of Fred Phillips' 'Winds from Sheol'.--Dirk P Broer 06:54, 8 January 2020 (EST)

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