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World Out of Mind

Perhaps you can take another look at this pub, the notes are somewhat confusing. I believe I have the same edition, but mine doesn't state it's the second printing (it does state there were two book club printings). If I understand the copyright page correctly, it was printed in November 1955, and published in January 1956. And finally, the cover is credited on the backcover as by "Robert Powers". Is yours the same? Thanks, Willem H. 14:17, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

It is confusing, so I'll dig out the book and hopefully make it less confusing. Thanks!Kraang
Any luck with the digging yet? I'm still wondering if I should clone or verify. Thanks, Willem H. 14:43, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry forgot about this , will look tomorrow night.Kraang 02:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Mine's a second printing.
Doubleday edition published June, 1953
Science Fiction Book Club edition August, 1953
2 printings
Permabook edition published January , 1956
2nd printing.................November, 1955

(unindented)How is yours credited?

Thanks for looking. Mine is credited exactly the same, except for the last line which goes "1st printing.................November, 1955" Looks like there were two printings in the same month. I'll clone yours. Willem H. 15:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Dune: House Harkonnen - publication month? difference

Morning! This. [1]. I have the second printing, but my book states the first printing (yours) as September 2001. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:46, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry forgot about this , will look tomorrow night.Kraang 02:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
My library note has the date as October 2001 and I don't use this to enter data for the books I do that direct, so it would seem strange to do it incorrect twice. It's not on my main book cases but packed away in boxes, so I'll dig into them tomorrow night.Kraang 01:40, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Publishers again

It looks like you're doing a bit of a clean-up or regularisation of publishers again (wiki-side at least) - thanks! I've been looking at a lot of Fixer submissions recently (can't get at most of my own books till I get well again), and think we can suggest some improvements there, like having "(BYR)" removed automatically and having "make this a 'jvn' title" added to moderator notes. And the publishers with "Trade" at the end normally signify that it's "tp" and the "Trade" could be removed and the binding changed from "pb". Do you feel the same? BLongley 01:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea. Once the minor variants of publishers names are gone I like to remove the redirects. I also keep an eye on Orbit and Tor, they have US and UK imprints. The ISBN#'s are different and the pricing is a dead giveaway.Kraang 02:34, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

The Interpreter title reference

I changed your verified The Interpreter to use this title by "Brian Aldiss" instead of this title by "Brian W. Aldiss", matching the author credit on the publication. --MartyD 11:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix.Kraang 23:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Harrison's Bill the Galactic Hero

Can you re-check how the cover art and interior art is credited in this pub? Some sources give the credit to "Michael W. Kaluta" (which is closer to the artist's given name). Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

It's actually "Michael Wm. Kaluta".Kraang 02:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Tiger by the Tail and Other Science Fiction Stories

I added the publication month from the 2nd printing and a note to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 09:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Out of the Sun

Just a note that I have added Bova's NONFICTION title The Amazing Laser and a minor essay to your verified 1984 Tor edition of Out of the Sun. I guess by 1984 you couldn't sell one hundred page books even to the juvenile audience, so Tor decided to combine two of them to get to a respectable page count :) Ahasuerus 02:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Also added the Canadian price to Out of the Sun and Privateers. Ahasuerus 03:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Longyear's Circus World

I was updating my SFBC edition of this title and noticed that there are two records for first paperback printings: this one verified by you, and this one verified by Dragoondelight. Yours has a later catalog number, which is the same as this record of the second printing from 1982. Could you recheck the publication date of your copy when you get a chance? Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Will dig it out. Thanks!Kraang 00:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


Added a cover scan to Flandry Hauck 17:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


On my version of this book here, I have 551 pages, your count of 496 is perhaps from the HC ? Hauck 18:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

That's a big difference, so I'd better have a second look. Thanks!Kraang 02:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Page count fixed. Thank!Kraang 02:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Artist credit on A Torrent of Faces?

I've given myself a mission of trying to clean up the separate, individually-credited Leo Dillon and Diane Dillon coverart titles that should be single jointly-credited titles. How is the cover on your verified A Torrent of Faces credited? I see from the scan there are two separate drawings.... I will also point Willem H. at this question, as he has 2-verified it. Thanks. --MartyD 17:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It's credited to both Dillons (Cover art by Leo & Diane Dillon). I believe the whole first series of Ace Specials had covers by them, and are thus credited. Willem H. 18:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Credited to both.Kraang 20:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Downtiming the Night....

Would you take a look at this submission? I'm wondering if the title as set up is therefore incorrect. You are the primary both on this one and BKTG22926, the only two pubs using that title. Thanks. --MartyD 12:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Will check, thanks!Kraang 03:40, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
OK, the Tor edition is correct, but the Baen title page has "Nightside" as one word, if you approve the change I'll fix the variant and add some notes. Thanks!Kraang 02:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. Done. Thanks. --MartyD 16:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I believe this issue was discussed before(2 year's ago) and it was thought best to leave it as two words and the variant title page was an error of the type setter not an intended change. No point in creating unnecessary variants.Kraang 00:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Search the Sky

Copyright page of [this] wouldn't happen to mention the date of the first printing? The cover for the '54 has been credited to Powers by Jane Frank. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:14, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

FYI, I answered this based on my copy, which does say "February", and adjusted the notes to reflect that statement. --MartyD 11:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Fortress of Dragons excerpts

I'm sure this will be on the top of your list of things to do, but you are primary verifier on both Eater and Vacuum Diagrams, in which appear Fortress of Dragons excerpts 1097399 and 440471, respectively. Are they perhaps similar enough to be merge-worthy? --MartyD 22:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Their identical. Will merge. Thanks!Kraang 01:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Merged the other two excerpts. Both books have excerpts from themselves, whats the point in that?Kraang 01:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
That's pretty funny. I'm afraid I wasn't paying close attention (I had added content for a Fixer-supplied anthology and was checking for duplicate titles when I found the excerpts above). --MartyD 02:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

New Edit to Richard Condon

Hi, I've been away for several years and have had a *terrible* time figuring out how to contact you (or anyone else for that matter), but hopefully I've now succeeded -- I guess that I have to have a "user account" as well as just my plain account that lets me edit the database. Well, anyway, here I am, but only because I made a minor addition to Richard Condon for "A Talent for Loving" that I see that you approved. My question is this: I only put in the info for the 197-something paperback. The first edition was 1961, which I don't have. Should that info be in the present entry? I no longer remember what I used to do three years ago, when, for a while, I made a *lot* of entries.... Best, Hayford Peirce 18:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Since its a nongenre entry I'd only change the title date to 1961, we generally don't support anything beyond a token entry for nongenre. I'll change the date for you. As for accounts you only need one, just log in on the Wiki side if it's not do automatically. Thanks!Kraang 01:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The Colonel Came Back from (the) Nothing-at-All in The Instrumentality of Mankind

Can you check this verified pub for this story? In my printing the story is as "The Colonel Came Back from Nothing-at-All" on the contents page, but as "The Colonel Came Back from the Nothing-at-All" on the story's title page. Is yours the same? I suspect that all publications were under the title with the "the". Thanks, --Willem H. 20:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Waited for two weeks, then changed the title. If you don't agree, drop me a note. Thanks, --Willem H. 06:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't see any new messages on the home page. Mine's the same. Thanks!Kraang 01:09, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

The Man Who Awoke by Laurence Manning Feb 1975

Uploaded cover image. --Astromath 03:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Attila Hejja vs Hejji

Hi Kpulliam & Kraang, I think you have both made the same error based on an attempt to interpret a signature. You both credit the cover of this to Hejji, but as far as I can make out the signature on the photo scans looks similar to the signature posted here for Hejja. A quick net search also supports the latter spelling for his Dragonstar credit. Cheers Jonschaper 01:54, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I've checked my copy and your correct it is an "a", I'll change the name. Thanks!Kraang 02:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Cheers. here is another variation on his name. Jonschaper 03:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
The cover has his signature "Attila Hejja" but the copyright page credits him as "Attila Heja" with only one "j".Kraang 01:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
He's currently credited as "Attilla Heja" with 2 l's as well. Should that be changed before it is made a variant? Jonschaper 23:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
My mistake, it's spelled with two "l's" "Attilla Heja" and I'll make it a variant right now. Thanks!Kraang 02:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

William Fryer Harvey

The title page says W. F. Harvey, so the collection needs to be made a variant title of William Fryer Harvey. (It is not, however, identical with any of the three other collections of that name on the William Fryer Harvey page.) I was having a little difficulty following the help page's description of how to make a variant. Sorry for the confusion. Best, BrendanMoody 02:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll approve the submission and then change it back. I'll also create the variant and do the rest of the titles. If I had more time I'd walk you through the variant process. Thanks!Kraang 02:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

The Silkie

Evening, Sean! Did you put the note in [this] about the ACE ad? For no lack of trying, I can't find an ACE #08130 or any Saberhagen title with a number even close to it. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The note is not from me. I can look at my copy and see whats there. Thanks!Kraang 22:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Mine starts with the Ace Double H-56 (PITY ABOUT EARTH Ernest Hill & SPACE CHANTEY R. A. Lafferty), the other must be a later printing with a different ad.Kraang 02:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for checking~ --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi guys. I was trying to figure out how to enter my copy when I stumbled upon this. I have the alternate printing with the ad beginning with Saberhagen's THE BROKEN LANDS & it is indeed listed as 08130--50¢, followed by Alan Garner's THE MOON OF GOMRATH 53850--50¢. The copyright page appears identically as described in the notes. Should I simply clone the pub & enter it as a separate entry with the same info including publication date or should I just add/modify the note in this entry to consider as the same entry? Thanks. Zybahn 03:45, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Niven & Barnes' The Descent of Anansi

There are two records for verified copies of the first printing of this title: Blongley's and yours. Mhhutchins 17:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Interesting, two different ISBN #'s. Checked mine and it's all correct and the image of Bill's cover is clear.Kraang 01:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
The 0-812 ISBN was used after Tor split from Pinnacle (0-523) as their distributor in October 1983. Perhaps yours is a reprint that failed to change the printing history on the copyright page? Mhhutchins 01:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Does your say anything about being distributed by Pinnacle? Also, not that it means anything, many of the dealers date the one with your ISBN as 1985. Mhhutchins 01:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
No mention of Pinnacle. There is a 3rd printing dated Apr 1991 so this could be from 1985, just not credited correctly on the copyright page.Kraang 02:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Mine is the same as Bill's and there is no Canadian ISBN. Do we know when Tor started using dual ISBNs? Ahasuerus 03:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

McEnroe's Skinner

According to this website, the cover artist for this pub is Enric. Is his name misspelled on your copy? Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

The name is in very small print and it's "Enrie", I'll create a variant. Thanks!Kraang 02:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Also at the same site, this pub is credited to Enric. Yours also has a visible signature according to the notes. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The signature was a best guess, so I'll add the name in. Thanks!Kraang 02:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

proposed cover change on Redemption Ark

I trust Hauck, but in this submission, the scan is different from the explicitly-selected Amazon image it proposes to replace. I can't hold it for you, but I put it on hold to prevent acceptance before you check. Thanks. --MartyD 11:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I just finished readng it so it was close at hand and the update is the correct cover. Thanks!Kraang 23:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
You must live a clean life or something. Anytime anyone asks me about something, it's buried somewhere.... Anyway, thanks for checking; I approved his submission. --MartyD 01:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

5 Galaxy Short Novels - added essay

Morning! This. [2]. After matching my book to your ver I added the essay on pages ix-x and changed the page count to reflect this. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Men Against the Stars - #534 printing

Morning! This. [3]. I have a G234 printing that I just added that matches your contents but this [4] cover. I am wondering if your catalog number is incorrect or possibly chipper/diced/flaked somewhat? My g234 has a red circle with pyramid at top left, Pyramid, top, Giant, lower, in circle. Also a G234 running downwards at very top spine. I have found references in Contento (general) and Tuck (specific G234), but no 534. Tuck could easily have missed it though. My bottom spine is starting the flake off process, so it seems reasonable to ask. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

The number is correct, what I need to add is the printing history, it's probably Canadian. Here's a similar example [5]. I'll dig it out of the boxes and add some info.Kraang 01:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I had not thought of that, but have long known that Canadian printings were not adequately covered. I started noting when I run into "Printed simultaneously in Canada", hoping that will pull some out of hiding. I had NOT considered that the number sequence would be a cue, but thanks to you I will keep a better eye for it. I wish someone had worked to make a listing of the Canadian printings. Canada has had a much greater influence on science and speculative fiction than is presently shown. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 11:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Wheels within Wheels

Added a clean image to [this], clean enough to see a signature on the bottom left but not enough to 'decipher' it. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Warm Worlds and Otherwise

I updated Warm Worlds and Otherwise to change the price from $1.50 to C$1.50. As I verified the U.S. edition you may want to take a look at the notes for that to see if any apply to the Canadian edition you verified. For example, is the publisher on the title page "Ballantine Books • New York"? --Marc Kupper|talk 18:15, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Will check. Thanks!Kraang 00:34, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Ballantine books. Fixed.Kraang 01:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Anderson's The Van Rijn Method

Should the afterword on page 375 in this book be shortfiction? Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, see my note in #Anderson's The Van Rijn Method above. -DES Talk 15:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
I'll have a second look. Thanks!Kraang 00:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
It's an essay.Kraang 00:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Brother to Demons, Brother to Gods

I added the cover artist and a note to this verified pub. --Willem H. 20:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, look fine. Thanks!Kraang 00:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

The Moon Children

Can you check this pub for me? I could have the same edition, but the first note is confusing me. It states: "Stated 1st printing of 1973 Berkley ed." where mine sais "Berkley Medallion Edition, October, 1973", no statement of printing. My copy is printed in Canada, and has the LCCN (73-186646) on the copyright page. Should I clone or should I verify? Thanks, --Willem H. 09:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll dig it out this week. Thanks!Kraang 00:38, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I've fixed the printing statement. A verification would be fine.Kraang 00:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

People Machines

I added Williamson's story introductions to this pub, as they're quite substantial (running from 1 to 3 pages). Also restyled the notes. Hope you can agree. --Willem H. 17:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine, thanks!Kraang 00:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Berkley pb of Coleman's Seeker from the Stars

Is there any mention at all of the publisher credit as "Berkley Medallion" in your copy of this pub? I'm trying to confirm whether all Berkley books at this time (1967) used the Medallion imprint or not. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll check later this week. Thanks!Kraang 00:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Ragnarok series

SORRY... seems that I have attached this to an existing article section. I tried to create a new section.

The series "Ragnarok" contains books from two separate series.

Not sure to whom I should direct this question, or where to find in the FAQ how to fix it myself.

I noticed that you're the primary verifier for the Tom Godwin novel "Space Prison", which is the first book in his series "Ragnarok".

But just this past year, author John Meaney has released a new book, which is the first book in his new series "Ragnarok". This new book has nothing to do with Godwin's work. It's only coincidence that the books have series with identical titles.

However, the books are showing up as though it's a single series, started by Godwin and now being continued by Meaney.

I have spent some time searching the FAQ to find out how to fix it, but am a little hesitant to do edits indiscriminately when I'm still a relatively new user.

Can you sort this out if you have time? Or otherwise pass this along to someone else who has the time to correct this?

Thanks very much.

Bryan —The preceding unsigned comment added by Blyoung (talkcontribs) 21:50, 20 October 2010

Help:How to work with series should be clearer. The answer is to five a different name here. Perhaps Ragnarok (Meaney) or some other name that will distinguish the Meany series from the Goodwin series, and edit the title record(s) to change the series name on the Meaney series. I'll discuss this further on User talk:Blyoung . -DES Talk 13:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The Probability Corner

You verified the book The Probability Corner By Walt & Leigh Richmond, as a 177 page novel. Looking at the book, though, there is a 5 page Prologue that comes before the numbered pages. It seems like those should be noted somehow, although I'm not sure of the best way to do that. Chavey 06:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Now that I have some experience, I think I figured out how to handle it. I've added some page numbers and notes to that record about the prologue. Chavey 05:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
I accepted the edit, Chavey is right. --Willem H. 15:26, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Mission of Honor

Updated and corrected notes for 314226 Dana Carson 10:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

ISFDB support for foreign titles

You recently accepted a submission for Die fliegenden Zauberer. Its title record should have been merged with the English language title record and not made into a variant. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed.Kraang 02:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Cover for Mission of Honor

Hi. I have this submission on hold. It augments the notes and changes the cover on your verified Mission of Honor, but the uploaded cover doesn't match the linked Amazon cover -- the text above the title is different, as is the text inside the red explosion badge -- and the submission is from a new editor, so I thought I'd ask you to check it before doing anything with it. I am leaving the editor a note about verified pub change etiquette, too. Thanks. --MartyD 13:24, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The new cover image is the correct one. Please approve the submission. Thanks!Kraang 00:17, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for checking. --MartyD 01:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Titan's Daughter

Added an image, found an artist's signature on the cover and also changed the title of [this]. Odd that Berkley would implement the change from the first edition, but there it is. Did the necessary variant as well. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:22, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Deus Irae

Not sure about the artist credit for [this]. I've looked at it very carefully, magnified and can't find any initials on the cover. Always the possibility the cover is slipped/cropped differently on my copy. --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Brin's "Whose Millenium?" or "...Millennium?"

Can you check the spelling of the essay in this collection? The version in this magazine has two "n"s and I want to correct the title record if all of them are misspelled. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:28, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Millennium with two "n"s.Kraang 04:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Great. That makes the change better. I'll make the correction. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:33, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Empire of the Atom

Found a signature on [this] cover. About 1cm up from the bottom right, along the edge of the purple colouring running from bottom up. Very tiny, very faint. My eyes think it's Faragasso. You will need some magnification...!--~ Bill, Bluesman 05:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Posted an image [here] --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

JHB Cover Artist

Summary: I'm adding a cover artist to your verified publication Conehead.
Details: You are the primary verifier for both Conehead, by Gardner Fox, and Dragon Magic, by Andre Norton. In the former case, the cover artist is listed in the notes as leaving a "JHB" monogram, and in the later case, the cover artist is listed as "J. H. B.", based on that monogram. We appear to have 9 books in the ISFDB database whose covers have that mysterious monogram, and I am adding cover artists attributions for the 4 (including Conehead) that are not directly linked to that artist. The intent is to connect all of these mysteries into one, esp. in case anyone ever figures out who the artist is. Chavey 21:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

The signature has been identified to be that of J. H. Breslow. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Outcasts of Heaven Belt

F.Y.I. I cloned your verified The Outcasts of Heaven Belt for my US edition. One of the notes in your pub sais Verification copy printed in Canada, unknown if US edition has any differences. Probably the only difference between the two is the price (mine is $1.75), so I think the price on your pub should have the C-prefix. --Willem H. 21:12, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Price corrected to Canadian. Thanks!Kraang 01:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Map in "Flinx in Flux"

I changed a content item in your verified Flinx in Flux from "Map" to "Flinx in Flux (Map)". My understanding is that this is the approach we've adopted so that when you look at a listing of the artist, it makes more sense than just having "Map" listed in their resume. Chavey 10:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!Kraang 01:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Shadow of the Well of Souls

In regards to your verified Shadow of the Well of Souls, the notes have "All copies seen start 2 3 4... , may be 1st with printing error." My copy, which I have entered and am waiting for it to be approved, has a full printing number line "10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1" so you can change that note for your verified entry. I also uploaded the cover for my copy to your verified entry, as I assume it's the same cover since the artist and trade paperback format are the same, and your verified entry didn't have a cover. Please let me know if you have any problems with this. Thanks :) AndonSage 04:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I've been looking for a 1st since 1994 and everyone I've ever seen in Canada is a 2nd print. It looks like the 1st was sold in the US and later in the year a 2nd printing was sent to Canada. I always kept a lookout for his new books and the first time I saw it was in the airport in Sept of 1994 on my way to Ireland. Nice to know it exists because it's the only book of his I don't have as a 1st. Thanks!Kraang 02:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
You're welcome :) It's always nice to "meet" another Chalker fan. He's the only author for which I have all his novels (although not all first printings). I was also lucky enough to meet him at the World Science Fiction Convention in New Orleans in 1988, and sit down and have coffee and talk with him. I corresponded with him after that a couple times, and was very sad when he died. AndonSage 13:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

What's It Like Out There? and Other Stories

I'm entering the November 1941 issue of Weird Tales which contains a story by Edmond Hamilton that we currently have titled as "Dreamer's World". However, the magazine actually has the title as "Dreamer's Worlds". Your verified pub What's It Like Out There? and Other Stories has the only other appearance of the story. Contento lists it without the "s". Could you double check how the title appears in your copy. Willem H. also has a primary verified copy and I'm leaving the same note on his page. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:44, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Answered on my talkpage (It's "Dreamer's World" on the contents page, but "Dreamer's Worlds" on in the acknowledgements and on the story's titlepage). If you agree Ron can change the titlerecord. I added some notes to "What's It Like Out There?". Thanks, --Willem H. 19:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Same on mine.Kraang 03:52, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Medusa: A Tiger by the Tail

I have this same printing but I cannot verify this:

This edition has the US price and a sticker was applied over top, it has the initials "R.H.C."(Randam House Canada)and "Price in Canada" $4.75.

I am not sure the data should totally be deleted but I am also not sure it belongs in the note—maybe in a wiki comment? Uzume 15:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Books sold in Canada by Randam House had these stickers applied when their "Printed in Canada" editions didn't have the Canadian price(i.e Canadian dollars) printed on the cover. It was common for several publisher to have two printings one US and one CDN with the different prices to reflect the currency difference. One other publisher would blackout the US price and put the CDN price under the painted over portion. The note indicates how the publisher distributed the book and I believe it should stay. If the price had been applied by the book seller I would agree with you. Thanks.Kraang 02:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Having fun with the new scripts?

I suspect you're using them - feel free to suggest more. BLongley 03:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Something new to play with! Ok thanks!Kraang 03:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Tales of Riverworld

I added the author's note for Farmer's "Crossing the Dark River" to your verified Tales of Riverworld. --Willem H. 10:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

A Lion on Thartee

Can you confirm that the author's middle initial is credited on this pub's title page? Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:26, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

The initial isn't there so I removed it. One of the early edits. Thanks!Kraang 02:41, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Closed System by Zach or Zack Hughes

Can you confirm that this pub uses a noncanonical form of the author's name? Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:51, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

It's Zach, not Zack. Fixed. Thanks!Kraang 01:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Stray Authors

Bill Longley has uploaded a new list based on the last backup. It's here. Thanks for helping to clear the list. Mhhutchins 02:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

This is more current than list#3. Thanks!Kraang 02:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The Dark Side

Can you confirm the author's first name as credited in this book? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:40, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. That's the second one I spelled this way.Kraang 02:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I actually found at least 5 other nonverified pubs that had spelled his name with a "K" instead of an "H", so don't feel like the Lone Ranger. Mhhutchins 03:05, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

The Veil of Azlaroc

Hi, I uploaded a scan for The Veil of Azlaroc.--Dirk P Broer 19:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

The Dancing Gods: Part 2

Your verified pub THDNCNGGDS1996 states a date of 1996, and the notes mention a first edition date of December 1996. This matches up with my copy. Is there a reason not to have the publication date include the month? Md5i 06:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

When I updated the pub I missed that box. Fixed now. Thanks!Kraang 01:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Star Healer

Just picked up a copy [I think] of [this] but the price doesn't match. Mine has $3.75. Everything else seems to match and the copyright page gives no indication of a later printing. If yours is $3.50 I'll create a new record for the one I have. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Mine's $3.50. Larry Niven's "The Integral Trees" has two similar printings for Canada, one's $4.50[6] and the other is $4.75[7] both 1st, I have both. Thanks!Kraang 01:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Most odd. Thanks for checking! --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Coyote Destiny

Can you confirm that the author's middle initial is not credited on this pub's title page? Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

"Allen M. Steele" on the title page.Kraang 01:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Weinbaum's The Red Peri

Could I get you to take a look at your verified copy of The Red Peri. I am trying to determine if we have the same or different states of this book. You may also want to look at this discussion. My copy is bound in black cloth and the lettering of the title on the spine appears to be in 24 pt type (all capitals at a little less than 6mm high). Currey lists this as the "A" state. He lists the other states as B-salmon cloth, C - brown cloth, D - blue cloth, E - red boards and F - which is a later Donald Grant binding in black cloth stamped with cold with the difference being that the title on the spine is in 18 pt type. If we have the same state, I'll go ahead and update the existing record, if not, I'll clone and proceed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Mine's the same black cloth, capitalized gold letters just under 6mm high. On the copyright page it's stated "First Edition".Kraang 00:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Great Science Fiction Stories, ed. by Cordelia Titcomb Smith

I'm correcting two entries in the contents of your verified edition of this book. Both refer to the way in which the author is credited on the story title page: (1) in "The Roads Must Roll", the author is listed as "Robert Heinlein", not "Robert A. Heinlein", and (2) in "In Hiding", the author is listed as "Wilmar Shiras", not as "Wilmar H. Shiras". Of course both are just variants of the author's more commonly used name, but I'll change them to the way they're credited here. Chavey 00:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I approved the first edit. Thanks!Kraang 01:45, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Doesn't the same holds true for the variant title The Best of Sci Fi (Three)?--Dirk P Broer 12:49, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Mr. Reginald

Ever get the urge to just kick him?? ;-)--~ Bill, Bluesman 02:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Just think what would happen if every editor of the smaller presses sent in submissions. :-)Kraang 03:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
We'd probably have more reliable records. Mhhutchins 18:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
But some might actually learn to use the right editing tools!! Glad you were doing these as well, I was getting a little peeved ... the things we do for 'celebrities'!! :-) --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I find the preceding conversation rather disheartening. Perhaps it should not have been placed on a public forum. In the case of Robert Reginald, I've found him always to be a gentleman in all my dealings with him and his submissions. He's been quite amenable to all suggestions and changes that I've presented. Bill Longley and I have both handled dozens of his submissions and have never treated him any more or less than any other editor. Perhaps any problems you're having with his submissions should have been brought to his attention. Sometimes all it takes is a some guidance, and a little patience on the part of the moderator. He may be more tech savvy than either of you may believe, and has already read this. In that case, the ISFDB may have lost a valuable asset. Mhhutchins 18:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Apologies. --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:02, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I had no problem with any of his submissions in quality or quantity. If every editor of the small presses took the time to submit their publications we would be much better off.Kraang 01:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
My sentiments/experience, too. I think it's great he's contributing. It's nice to have the participation of an authoritative source. --MartyD 11:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

(unindent) I find that our editing interface can be somewhat intimidating (and our rules rather arcane) unless you deal with them on a regular basis. If you are an infrequent contributor, it's often easier to dump the data into our lap and hope that moderators sort it out rather than take the time to learn the rules that you will likely forget by the time you need to use them again. Which is why, I suspect, I get a fair number of e-mailed submissions and corrections from authors and librarians.

At first I found this disheartening, but after reading a number of librarian-run blogs I realized that this is true of most catalog applications. Thinking a few decades back, I remember how frustrated I was by what appeared to be arbitrary rules used by the catalog of the Library of Congress, but eventually I got used to them. And so it goes... Ahasuerus 06:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

The Return of Nathan Brazil (in 1989)

Hi, not meaning to be rude, just noticed something peculiar: just how many copies of this title do you have that are the second printing? Any chance they both might be the January 1989 reprint? --Dirk P Broer 11:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I only have one copy, must have entered it twice without noticing the mistake. It could be the Jan 1989 issue, but there is no way to know. I'll put a note in the record that isn't deleted about the date and leave the other record. Thanks!Kraang 00:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Clarke's 'City and The Stars' - P3429

Your verified pub The City and The Stars has a note that states "Stated 1st printing of 1968 Signet ed. (note - while it's stated 1st printing it's actually the 3rd printing.)".... however this does not match my copy. My copy has "Third Printing" and then several lines later "First Printing, December, 1957". Do I have an actual different printing with different text, or have things gotten muddled since you verified the pub several years ago? - Thanks Kevin 04:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to check, but I believe what's there is correct. Is your copy a US printing? Signet also printed in Canada and sometimes that can cause these differences.Kraang 00:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Rockets in Ursa Major

Found artist for your verified here. Hauck 16:32, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

King of the Fourth Planet / Cosmic Checkmate

Your verified edition of this Ace Double lists the page count as "96+126", but the notes claim that King of the Fourth Planet has 128 pages. I verified that the 128 is correct (in my copy), and changed the "126" typo. Chavey 02:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

The Man Who Loved Mars

The suspicion that the cover of this pub is by Paul Lehr is confirmed by Jane Frank. I added the artist an a note. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

A Barnstormer in Oz

I added the author's notes to this verified pub. --Willem H. 18:24, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Dark Space

I've added to the notes of Dark Space that cover art / cover design looks a lot that done on the #2 of this series. --Dirk P Broer 15:49, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Medusa: A Tiger by the Tail

Hi, I also have a copy of the 7th edition of Medusa: A Tiger by the Tail (Del Rey / Ballantine, January 1988) but, even though it is printed in Canada, there is no Canadian price and no sticker claiming it to be from "R.H.C." (Randam House Canada). Can you perhaps change the notes to "Examples of this edition meant for the Canadian market had a sticker applied over top, it had the initials "R.H.C." (Random House Canada) and "Price in Canada" $4.75." An example from a third verifier, bought outside Canada, did not have such sticker. ? --Dirk P Broer 19:38, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Sounds fair, the stickers get removed or fall off, so I'll update the note. Thanks!

Lord Demon - Duplicated Excerpt Block

I normalized the excerpt titles that appeared in your verified pub Lord Demon, so that I could merge them as they appear in my verified pub Europa Strike. To normalize them I added a space to the titles and corrected the label to lower case (excerpt). I'm merging them because they are a generic block of excerpts... since the block includes an excerpt of the larger novel the block has been added to. I am also putting a note in each excerpt title to indicate the relationship between this block, and to note that only excerpts appearing in this block should be merged. (Other single excerpts are probably different / longer). Thanks Kevin 18:20, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Gordon R. Dickson - Dorsai Spirit

Hey - You might want to take a look at your verified pub Dorsai Spirit. I think it might have a variant (in copyright date) for Dorsai! that would be worth mentioning in the notes. Locus mentions this in their index, and I found a similar copyright date change in the SFBC Four to Dorsai! and I've put a note up under the Genetic General title. Kevin 18:37, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Chalker - War of Shadows - Publication Series

I added your verified pub War of Shadows to a publication series An Analog Book. Thanks -Kevin 04:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Hidden World

[This] likely has a date code at the bottom of the last page of text/last page in the book. Most Airmont later printings have it. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

found the code. Thanks!Kraang 00:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Airmont Science Fiction series

I am organizing the Airmont Science Fiction series, and have added your verified pubs: The Hidden World, Conquest of Earth, and Invaders from Rigel to this series. Chavey 18:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

"So Close to Home", by James Blish

I added a month of publication to your verified publication, from Contento. Chavey 18:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC)