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The Saliva Tree by Aldiss

I have a submission to add a fourth Sphere printing to The Saliva Tree by Aldiss. There is already a record for this printing, but it's under the title The Saliva Tree and Other Growths. Keep in mind that it is ISFDB standard to record author credit and title from a book's title page, not from its cover or spine. If this record matches your book, please cancel the submission. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's the same book, thanks. Withdrawn. Jcameron 01:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Removing white space around Amazon images

I approved the submission adding this record, but you'll notice a white frame to the left and right of the image. This is easily removed: Copy the original URL and remove all characters between the last dot (.) and the previous one, leaving one dot before the file extension. In this case you'd enter the URL as Look at the difference between the two images: here and here. Pretty neat trick, don't you think. This is pointed out on the help page for image-linking permissions under Amazon's listing. Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't spot that till after I'd submitted the pub. (I think I got the other Amazon cover right.) I'll go fix it. Jcameron 22:31, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Year of The Naked Sun 9th printing

Hi. I have your submission of the 9th printing of The Naked Sun on hold. You gave it a date of 1993, but your notes talk about reprints through 1973, and the price of £0.30 does not seem consistent with 1993. Should that be '73? (No need to re-submit; I would fix it when I accept it -- it's on hold as a reminder to myself). Thanks. --MartyD 15:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, that's a typo. It should be 1973. Thanks. Jcameron 15:19, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. All set here. --MartyD 15:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

The Caves of Steel

I agree with you that capturing what you have is worthwhile. Here it is. Please make yourself primary verifier so a future editor will know to contact you about it. Thanks. --MartyD 15:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Complete Robot

Does "...That Thou Art Mindful of Him" in your copy of this pub have an exclamation point in the title (on the story's title page 605)? Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

No, neither on the story's title page nor in the table of contents. Jcameron 17:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. BTW, there's no need to know how it's titled in the TOC. We don't use that for our records. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 17:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
The submission to make it into a variant was rejected because a variant of this title already exists. One of the reasons for my first question was to see if it should be merged with any other variant of this title. Please merge yours with this one. I'm going to make sure that the contents of all Grafton/HarperCollins/Voyager/whatever printings are consistent. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:11, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
OK, done. Jcameron 18:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
One other question: does your copy have the introduction and the essay "Some Non-Human Robots" that appear in this earlier printing (and are also verified in the US edition)? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I see now that the essay in question is one of a series that appear to be section introductions. Do these introductions appear in your copy? Mhhutchins 18:26, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, each section has an introduction that appears under the section title. Jcameron 18:30, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
If you intend to have these essays as part of the record of your printing, you should remove all contents from the record and then import them from record 156021. This will save you many submissions in having to merge the new contents records you'll create. Ask if you need help in how to remove contents and then import contents. Mhhutchins 18:38, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Dating pubs

If a pub only gives the date of publication as the year, it's likely that a secondary source might have the month or even actual day of publication. If you're working on a book-in-hand that differs from the record, you should note that difference in the record's note field, and then do a primary verification of the record. The month stated in this record is probably from Locus1. I suggest updating the pub, noting that the month is not stated and that the record's date is from Locus1, then doing a verification of the record. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 00:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

OK, I have added a note to that effect. Thanks. Jcameron 21:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Page Counts

For most books, we use the last numbered page for the page count field. If significant text appears before page 1 (whether it's numbered or not) or after the last numbered page, we add those pages in brackets. So if a prologue is not numbered, and page 1 is after that prologue, the page count field is entered like this: [5]+393 (as an example). If text appears after the last numbered page it's entered like this: 393+[5]. In this book, if the prologue begins on one of the five unnumbered pages, those pages are already included in the page count, so the number shouldn't be added to the page count field. If the epilogue appears after the last numbered page and is 5 pages long, the field should be 393+[5]. Numbers given in brackets in this field indicate unnumbered pages. I'm going to accept you submission to update the record, and ask you to adjust it according to the rules as I've outlined here. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Here is the section of the Help pages that explains page counting. Mhhutchins 01:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
OK, I've been going by the rule outlined in the last paragraph of that section, which by my reading of it says to count the last page in the text in the page count if it alone is unnumbered, and it seems I mistakenly extended it to the entire epilogue in this case. This probably means that none of the page counts for the Orbit printings of this book are correct, since they either give a page count of 393 (omitting the epilogue altogether) or 405 (adding it in rather than expressing it separately). Jcameron 01:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
I'll work on getting those into some sort of agreement. BTW, can you confirm that your copy is trade paperback size? According to the OCLC record, it's only 18 cm. They may be wrong. Mhhutchins 01:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
I've just measured it and it comes out to 19.7cm. There is a 'pb' printing from 1999 in the database here, which might be the one the OCLC record is referring to. Jcameron 01:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Nevermind about the last part there. The OCLC record gives the ISBNs for both the mmpb and the tp, but only the size of the mmpb. Sorry. Mhhutchins 01:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Image scans

Thanks for uploading the recent set of cover image scans. I don't want this to be taken as a complaint, but some of them appear to be dark. Is there a way to adjust the settings on your scanner to brighten the image? If not, don't worry. They're still acceptable for the purposes of the database. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 23:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, some of them did come out a bit dark. It's probably my inexpert cameramanship. As you say, they're for identification purposes rather than for looking beautiful, so I didn't sweat it too much, but I'll see what I can do about getting better ones in future. Cheers. Jcameron 00:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Weaveworld Clive Barker 1988

In this pub cover artist is Tim White (from this pub) BarDenis 19:31, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The artist had got set to "Tim Artist" somehow. I've corrected it and added a note. Jcameron 22:21, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Uploded new cover for this pub. BarDenis 19:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Expedition to Earth

I'm holding your submission to enter contents for this as it's far better to Import Contents from another printing, e.g. 380418. If I accepted your original submission then each of the contents would have to be merged. BLongley 15:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm replacing it with a cloned version of one of the existing ones; is that an acceptable workaround? Jcameron 19:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
An import would have done it in one step vs. cloning and deleting being two steps. It can also be easier for the moderator to understand what is intended, but your notes to the moderator were good so that wasn't an issue in this case. I approved the clone & delete before I saw this. Jcameron, you can cancel the on-hold submission. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:47, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Have done, thanks. Jcameron 20:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I uploaded a scan for this book Viter 12:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Prelude to Foundation Isaac Asimov 1989

Uploaded new cover art version (with back cover) for this pub BarDenis 18:07, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Maps in The Ruby Knight

Are the interior art records in this publication titled in the book as you entered them into the record? Also, the page number should be the page on which the piece begins. We don't include the range of pages on which a piece appears. Mhhutchins 20:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

They are titled "Eosia", "Lake Randera", "Ghasek" and "The Troll Cave". I imported them under the names they already exist under in the db. Also, of course it should, sorry. I copied the first one from an existing entry that had the pages as a range and didn't think to correct it. Jcameron 20:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
They should be recorded as they are titled in the publication. We give it an extended title, as "TITLE (map)", to show it to be something other than the usual interior art record. I'll make the corrections. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 21:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Your question about "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul"

You asked a question on my talk page about "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul". It's been a while since you asked, so I am responding on your own talk page. In my printing of the book the line "back in control of myself!" (at the top of page) is immediately followed by the line "My table lamp". Hope this helps, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 20:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

The High Crusade

Hello, the cover artist for this publication is Jack Faragasso, see Horzel 22:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Forgotten Life

Have replaced Amazon link with scan of verified copy here Prof beard 10:36, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The Earth Book of Stormgate One

Have replaced Amazon link with scan of verified copy here Prof beard 10:44, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hugh Cook's _The Walrus and the Warwolf_ (Corgi Edn)

Hi, I've added the cover artist (& associated note re source), plus added an interior art record for the maps. --clarkmci / j_clark 03:31, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Darwin's Radio

Added the 3 essay contents and cover art credit to your verified pub. PeteYoung 14:10, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Prelude to Space

Hi, I've added Gordon C. Davies as cover artist for your verified copy of Prelude to Space, see here for more of the same cover art where Gordon C. Davies already is credited.--Dirk P Broer 23:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Silver Stallion

Replaced cover of this book with a better version. --Mavmaramis 13:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Eternity - artist detail

Pub note on artist credits added to your PV1'd Eternity. Astrodan 08:43, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

The Man in the High Castle - pub notes

Added pub note on date of cover art to your PV1'dThe Man in the High Castle Astrodan 13:41, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


This pub that you verified: I added the cover artist and revised the pub notes. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 18:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

The Rest of the Robots - Asimov

I've changed "Granada" to "Panther / Granada" here and amended the notes in the light of added printings and recognition that Panther misses printing dates from its copyright pages. For futher information please see others of the 1968 edition. Kev. BanjoKev 16:12, 26 February 2020 (EST)