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Hello, Hkauderer, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Your submissions

Hello, there are a lots of problem with your multiple submissions. First there are at last six that concerned seemingly the same issue (March 1989?) with full or partial contents and even with different dates, another one is for an already present issue this one, all this with a particularly variable capitalization (note that we regulartize it). I've rejected this lot. I strongly advise you, as a new contributor, to avoid such batches and try your hand submission by submission. I'm going to see what I can do with the rest. Thanks for contributing. Hauck 08:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

I've also rejected submissions for issues alreay in this grid. Please note the difference of editors.Hauck 09:24, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for deleting my errors while learning the system. There was more than I could easily learn in a few hours.

Hkauderer 12:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

The grid noted above (and many other places) list Marge Simon as the editor of Star*Line from 1990-1996. This does not reflect the issues that I own. Robert Frazier is the editor (at least most issues include the line "Editorial address: Robert Frazier, Box 1370...") through issue 14:1 for Jan-Feb 1991.

In issue 14:2 for March/April 1991 there is an opening editorial by new editor Richard Rowand, as well as a 'thanks it's been swell' paragraph from departing editor Robert Frazier.

Issue 14:6 for Nov/Dec 1991 opens with an editorial from "Marge Simon, Editor" including the words "I'll be your new STAR*LINE Editor".

I have these issues at hand should a scan for verification be desired. Hkauderer 13:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Don't hesitate to modify the data. Hauck 18:08, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, July-August 1990

Hello, I've approved your submission but tweaked it a lot to conform to our standards: 1) disambuguated title to "Star*Line, July-August 1990", 1) regularized publisher to "SFPA", 3) changed the type of A Pattern of Paradox: Poetry & Brian Aldiss from NONFICTION (used for book-length works) to ESSAY, 4) regularized capitalization, 5) merged titles with poems already in the DB (e.g. the Aldiss or the Daniel ones), 6) added publication series to insert the title in this grid. The result is here. BTW, can you confirm that An Open Letter to Those Trapped Aboard the Spaceship Aniara is a short story and not a poem?. Hauck 09:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

I like all the changes you have made, and will attempt to learn how to do them in the first place.

"An Open Letter" is formatted as clear lucid prose, specifically a fictional letter. Whether the author and editor considered it fiction or poetry would be up to them. Working on the idea of trying to guess intent, I would guess fiction because it is formatted in parallel with all other prose in the issue and in contrast with the poetry.

Hkauderer 12:21, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

As the sole PV, it's your call. Hauck 18:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, November-December 1990

Same set of remarks for this issue, the result is here, same question for The Space Baby, short story or poem? Hauck 09:21, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

"The Space Baby" is structured as prose and reads like a short story, but I might guess from the context that it was intended as a prose poem.

Hkauderer 12:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

We do not have such a category (Prose Poem) so your opinion is the best. I was just inquiring in case of an drop-down menu error. Hauck 18:10, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, May-June 1991

Same set of remarks for this issue. Can you confirm that one of the authors is indeed "Tony Daniels" and not the known to us "Tony Daniel"? Hauck 09:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

The poem on page 2 is credited to "Tony Daniels" while the poem on page 3 is credited to "Tony Daniel". Since the directions said to include the name exactly as credited, I reflected that in the entry.Hkauderer 13:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
I've changed the second one to "Tony Daniel" as per publication. For the first one if you've got some clue that this is a mispelling, IMHO it's best to use the standard name and add a mention in the notes. Hauck 18:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, November-December 1991

Ditto for this issue. Same question for Monsters. Hauck 09:32, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

While "Monsters" is formatted as prose, but must be a prose poem as it is listed under poetry in the Table of Contents. Hkauderer 13:02, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
You're in charge here, it'll stay that way if you want. Hauck 18:16, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, January-February 1990

Hello, I've approved your submission for this pub (note that I've thought best to change a "Wilock" to "Wiloch"). You're now facing the problem of linking reviews (you'll notice that the links that should direct you to the reviwed title are not active) because none of the reviews were automatically linked by our system.
For the first title ( Contemporary Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror Poetry) it's because the book is already in the db but under a slightly different (in this case more complete) title (it's probably this one). To link the review, go at the review's title level here, use the "Link Review to Title" item on the left of the screen and enter the "target" Title# (in this case 1205846), then submit.
For the four Wiloch titles, it'll be more complicated. Either you enter the four books reviewed in the db and then use the method above or you delete the REVIEW and add in its place an ESSAY (in such cases there is no link to the reviwed book as it's not known to the db) like this one. Hauck 08:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, March-April 1989

Hello, I've approved your submission, the result is here. I've just added the title series (to put it in the grid). I've also split the bilingual poems in two, assign language to the german originals and varianted them (see here). You'll still have to attend to the unlinked review. Hauck 10:53, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Same for this other issue. Hauck 10:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello, one more thing in this issue - you cannot have NONFICTION in a magazine - it needs to be ESSAY. I just submitted the change for you so just letting you know. :) Annie 01:55, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

EDITOR records

Hello, please do not add EDITOR type records to existing magazines (which already have the requisite quota of one). An editorial (for example) should be entered as an ESSAY. I've corrected your recent batch. Note also that titles by pseudonyms (e.g. by David Kopaska-Merkel) should be varianted to the the canonical name. For now, I've done this on the fly for you. Hauck 17:41, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Will do on the EDITOR type. I have started going to canonical name, thanks.
I note that I am holding an issue of Star*Line for Jan. 1992 and the contents are completely different than those verified by BLongley. How do I handle that? Hkauderer 17:53, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Your physical copy trumps all, I've deleted the existing record. Hauck 18:02, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Star*Line, November-December 1992

Hello, the text by Uncle River seems to appear twice (once as an ESSAY the other as a POEM), is it the case? Note also that some texts (Editorial or Editor's Comment by Simon) should perhaps best be disambiguated (I've done this for you). Hauck 17:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

The ESSAY is the correct entry. The second should be removed. Thanks for catching that.Hkauderer 17:50, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Done. Hauck 18:07, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

The Surly Blondes of Earth

Hello, please note that such a book should be entered as an COLLECTION and not CHAPBOOK (which is, for us, a collection with only one text). Remember also to use our standard capitalization which is precised here. Hauck 18:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the capitalization comment is referring to. Is this because poets like some titles in all lower case? Hkauderer 19:37, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes it's exactly that. We choose to "force" capitalization as per our guidelines even if the title is physically in lower case. Hauck 10:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I will be happy to standardize that capitalization going forward. However, I will have to learn to disambiguate poems whose title cases are the only difference between two poems that otherwise have the same title. I can see that should vastly improve the ability to merge multiple publications of the same poem. As you note below, I am sometimes one of the poets/authors involved. With over a thousand poems published (about half SF/F) I have about four instances where case is the difference between titles, but I suspect that none of those involve two genre poems. Hkauderer 13:14, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

All the Way Down

Hello, I've merged the two occurrences of this poem, hope that I was right. Note that the author has a name quite similar to yours ;-). Hauck 10:35, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, that is correct. I need to learn how to merge publications. Hkauderer 13:16, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Grievous Angel

Hello, I've put your submissions on hold. It seems to me that they concern a webzine that falls outside our parameters (see here). Have you additional data about it? Hauck 10:44, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

In fact Grievous Angel proudly pays professional rates and advertises that publication there is a qualifier for SFWA. In fact, despite being a British webzine that publishes English language fiction and poetry from authors all over the world, they advertise their rates (and pay in) American dollars. As a result, they have published some pretty big names.
Thanks for the information, I've approved your submissions. Just remember not to give a page number for texts published either in a an ebook or a website (it's quite a meaningless notion), I've deleted them. Hauck 17:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Question: Grievous Angel publishes work with a day/month/year dateline, and keeps about three months worth on the "Latest Poetry, Haiga & Flash Fiction" webpage. But it also gathers them and archives them by month. The monthly archives look much more like a conventional issue of a magazine. If it is appropriate for inclusion in ISFDB, should it be registered by full date as published, or by month as archived? Hkauderer 13:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Only the first appearance is to be recorded. Hauck 17:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Question 2: Scifaikuest is published four times a year in print, but also has a different (and smaller) online magazine those same four months. Clearly the print version qualifies for inclusion in ISFDB. The online version is HTML only and is not archived. It goes away after three months except for when people such me save it first. There are no SFWA rates for poetry, and the prose pieces such as prose poems, haibun, and articles related to the field, are paid but not paid at rates that qualify for SFWA. I note that some of the poetry is paid rates that qualify for membership in the Horror Writers of America, and certainly almost all of the magazine is SF/F (even the horror). Is there some way to justify including the online version? Hkauderer 14:11, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
With such parameters, the website falls outisde our scope, so enter only the printed versions.
Will do. The complications of tracking non-downloadable web publications makes me wince. Limiting them to those paying professional rates seems like a good plan. Hkauderer 17:50, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I have another question about this magazine: you entered two issues for the same date (December 12, 2016), this one and that one, are they the same or is it a mistyping? Thanks. Hauck 17:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Those are two different issues with the same date. I had not noticed that, but I just confirmed it. Hkauderer 17:50, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Linking reviews

Hello, there are quite a number of reviews in diverse issues of Star*Line that are not linked and appear on our cleanup reports. Can you please attend to them either by creating the reviewed book and linking the review to it (it's not automatic) or by changing the review into an ESSAY. Thanks. Hauck 11:07, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I just looked up the linking mechanism, and I will be happy to do that (create and link all S*L issues I've entered) gradually over the next two weeks. I am in Levi, Quebec for the holidays, and I am using my father-in-law's computer which is in French. It makes the research and entry process a lot more exciting.Hkauderer 13:36, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I approved your review linking for Poly: New Speculative Writing, but changed the review title from "Poly - New Speculative Writing" to "Poly: New Speculative Writing". Reviews should use book titles that are already present in the database (unless of course, the review shows the database has an error that needs correcting). The title variation can be noted in the notes for the publication containing the review. Hopefully, that makes sense. Let me know if I didn't explain it well. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:01, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I can check reviews against existing entries. I am amazed at the volume of variations, especially for work from the 90's. Hkauderer 15:10, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I've linked some of the reviews for you (for titles that I can find). BTW remember to use ":" to indent the thread. Hauck 17:54, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Like this? Hkauderer 18:31, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Exactly. Hauck 07:03, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Page Numbers

Hello, please note not to give a page number for texts published either in a an ebook or a website (it's quite a meaningless notion), they'll have to be deleted manually afterwards. Hauck 07:04, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Will do. Hkauderer 15:30, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to miss that point on your earlier post. Hkauderer 17:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
No problem, it's a lot of information and many idiosyncrasies to absorb. Hauck 17:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Special treatment of "generic" titles

Hi, and a belated welcome. I accepted your The Book of Answers submission. I made one change: Essay titles that are of the sort that could be used by the same author over very different essays (so-called "generic" or "standard" titles) are given special treatment. We add the title of the publication in parentheses to help disambiguate. Titles such as "Foreword", "Introduction", "Afterword", "Author's Note", etc., are candidates for this treatment. So I added "(The Book of Answers)" to "Author's Afterword". You might never use that title again, but who knows? :-) Thanks, and thank you for contributing. --MartyD 02:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. That makes good sense. I think I erred when I added the page count to The Book of Answers (or perhaps while noting the variant titles) and the book is now showing up twice. How might that be resolved? Is there something I can do? Hkauderer 13:41, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I've deleted one publication then merged the two resulting collections and the stories (which is some work). BTW, please update the price: "8" is not very helpful... I've also regularized some capitalization. Hauck 13:58, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Done. Thanks. Hkauderer 14:10, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Linking reviews

Hello, I'm sorry to insist, but instead of entering new issues of Star*Line, I think that it's better for the ISFDB that you work on linking the growing number of "orphan" reviews that you're entering. If you need assistance, just ask. Thanks. Hauck 16:48, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely! My plan was to finish the 2015 and 2016 issues of S*L (on the last one now) and then tend to creating books and linking reviews. Is there a way to link reviews before a magazine entry is okayed? Hkauderer 17:20, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Alas no. Remember also that all the reviewed books should be spec-fic.Hauck 18:03, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I realize that one of the books reviewed is electronic only. I assume that excludes it from inclusion, and should change the review to essay. Hkauderer 18:06, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I have created an essay entry for the review, but cannot determine how to delete the review itself for 'What Strange Miracles' by James Brush Review by Herb Kauderer, in Star*Line 2016, Fall. Hkauderer 18:22, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
You should have used the "Remove Titles From This Pub" link to remove the content in the issue of the magazine and then delete the title (now publess) itself. As it's a two-step process, I've done this for you. I've also linked a good share of the orphaned reviews. Hauck 10:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I will stay focused on linking reviews until all caught up. Hkauderer 16:29, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
There are two left here, one here, one here. Hauck 10:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
The collection entries have been made. I will link reviews once the book entries have been approved. Hkauderer 21:04, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I've accepted the collections. It would be great to get their contents if you have any of that information. I will try to look for some other sources of info when I have a chance. --MartyD 01:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
I own quite a number of collections including a good bunch that I've made shell entries for. I will try to find time to flesh them out.Hkauderer 00:01, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

We Are Not Men price

Hi. I accepted We Are Not Men. It had a price of $.25, which I reformatted to $0.25. If that should be $25 instead, please correct. Thanks. --MartyD 01:13, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

You got it correctly. I will note the formatting for the future. The book in question was a micro-micro chapbook of a dozen haiku. 25 cents sounds correct for 1991. Thanks. Hkauderer 01:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Stairs Appear in a Hole Outside of Town

Hello, as you own the book, can you precise its format? Note that I've changed the "graphic" flag to "No", a simply illustrated book is not considered by us to be "Graphic" (it's used for comics or graphic novels). Thanks. Hauck 07:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

It looks like a comic book, but inside basically every panel of what would be comic contains a line of the poem. (The plain text of the poems are reprinted at the end of the book.) It is definitely an odd beast. There are no word balloons and such that you would associate with a comic. But it really looks like a comic. Given the presence of the plain text, simply identifying it as a poetry collection probably does the job well enough.Hkauderer 23:59, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Changing publication date

Hello, when you change a publication date (like you probably did for Star*Line, Fall 2014) backwards (i.e. changing to 2014 a 2015 publication), you'll have to change the dates of ALL the items in the publication lest they appear in our cleanup reports (being texts published in 2014 with a 2015 date). Note that it's a lot fo work (there were about 90 records involved). Hauck 10:55, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Noted. Thank you for letting me know.Hkauderer 16:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


Hello, after a publication that you entered is approved, remember that there may be some work left for you, for example, pseudonymistic links will have to be established, a title be put in a title series, reviews be linked, publisher to be regularized, etc... If not done by you, it'll fall on a moderator. Please also enter the "full" price e.g. $6.00 instead of $6 which may raise questions (Is it the correct price or is the decimal part missing?). Thanks. Hauck 08:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Noted, and noted. Thanks for all your help, and sorry to not catch on quicker.Hkauderer 14:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Alban Lake Publishing

I accepted two additions of Frostfire Worlds, but changed the publisher from Alban Lake to Alban Lake Publishing to match the existing publisher record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Noted. I'll make sure to follow that going forward. Thank you. Hkauderer 23:50, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Star*Line, September-October 1997

Hello, all the items in this issue are dated 1991-09. Perhaps (if it results from a unfollowed-up date change) should they be corrected? Hauck 07:15, 15 January 2017 (UTC)


Hello, when you enter and PV ã publication, it's mandatory to enter the Binding/Format (after all, you declare to own a copy of it). I've corrected some by analogy with other publications in the same series but it's better that you don't forget this point (such anomalies appear on our cleanup reports). Thanks. Hauck 07:46, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Doubled entries

For Starsong, March 1990 there are some doubled entries, see the author pages of Holli Quinn and Michael Ketchek (Light poem). Can you name the difference, if there's any? Thanks, Stonecreek 11:35, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Excellent eyes! Both poems appear twice in the same issue. Yes the text is the same and on two different pages, I checked. The Holli Quinn poem is actually listed in the ToC twice, while the Ketchek is listed once but appears twice. The entry has been classified as a magazine, but I suspect it should be fanzine, which is what they called themselves. Their goal was to help writers get started, and a lot of pretty big names appeared in their pages. They paid only in copies.Hkauderer 15:17, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I see the fanzine link and will use it in the future when appropriate.Hkauderer 15:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I have merged the doubled entries. Stonecreek 11:02, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Publications referred to in reviews

Hi. When you have a publication that's the subject of a review and you're creating an entry for it, if you have time and inclination, check (or Google the author and title). Often you can find information there -- in particular, the ISBN, format, and a cover image. If it's a collection/anthology and Amazon has a Look Inside, you can get the contents as well. --MartyD 02:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Will do.Hkauderer 04:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


Hi! In the proposed July 1991 issue there is an author named Carl Buchanon, whereas we already have a Carl Buchanan in the database. Could this be a typo, or is the name really spelled this way? Stonecreek 08:35, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

It is correctly Buchanan in the issue. My typo. Sorry. Good catch. Hkauderer 14:37, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. I know it's gonna cost some more time but if you can, please be thorough in entering the data: we have some 'single' authors who are only in the database because of typos. But thanks for contributing anyway! Stonecreek 04:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
On this item: Could you please also check Andrew Get(t)ler? Stonecreek 05:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Please correct the spelling of Allen Koszowski / Allen Kozsowski here. It's better to use paste & copy instead of typing the author's name every time anew. Stonecreek 08:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
I will be happy to make the correction when I get home from work. I have also been trying to review everything after it is approved. I found two other typos that way. In addition, I have found my new bifocals problematic for the computer, so I have reverted to the old ones for some tasks. Hopefully that will help. I will endeavor to use copy and paste more. And, of course, slowing down a bit and double checking things. I have started noting when new authors are flagged as one way of catching things. It would be lovely if the submission were still editable at that point.Hkauderer 16:14, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks for the answer. Alas, after submitting the publication (or the corresponding titles) are only editable after approvement. Stonecreek 16:28, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Mars No Longer Beckons

Hello, I've rejected a few submissions that were trying to create a variant (which is usually OK) but in these cases, the variant would have been strictly identical to the parent. What are you trying to achieve? I may be of help. Hauck 09:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

The poem "Mars No Longer Beckons" was first published in 1991. In 2014 it was collected in 'The Book of Answers' but the title was changed to be in parallel with the other poems in the book. What I am trying to do is get the two poems into one entry with the variant title noted. I would expect the title in the collection "After 'Mars Still Beckons'" to be the parent title. I note that this has been accomplished for the three other instances in the collection where a poem's title was changed for that parallel structure. Is this explanation clearer? I'm not really sure how I got it wrong already, so I might be more confused than I realize. Thanks. Hkauderer 16:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
OK, if I understand clearly you want to have Mars No Longer Beckons as a variant of After 'Mars Still Beckons'. To do this, you would have to go at the "children" title level here then use the "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" link and enter the TitleId of the parent (in this case "2106941" from its page). To speed up things I've done this for you. Please see if the result is correct for you. Hauck 17:33, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Perfect. Thank you.Hkauderer 18:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Focus #65

I'm working my way through back issues of Focus, making corrections, adding covers to old issues and generally tidying up the records. I've had to make some necessary corrections to Focus #65, which you added recently:

  • There were nine NONFICTION records in this publication that should have been listed as ESSAYs. The NONFICTION title type is for container titles such as books.
  • This issue's publication date of "Winter 2015/2016" means the date is recorded as "2015-00-00" and not "2016-00-00".
  • I have added a disambiguating "(Focus 65)" to the essay "Dev Agarwal Says ..." and added it to Dev's series for these editorial essays.
  • The current rationale is to group magazines by year, so I have changed the title reference of this publication to "Focus - 2015" to match all other records for Focus (and there is still some work to be done here with many older issues).
  • I have added a cover scan of this issue for you.

If you do have any general questions about how magazines are listed, or about Focus in particular, please don't hesitate to ask (although sadly the Primary Verifier of most older records, Bill Longley, passed away a few years ago). Thanks. PeteYoung 18:26, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I am still learning.Hkauderer 18:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Question: I entered the 'Ad Astra 2001 Anniversary Book' and it was errored out without comment. Is this because I incorrectly chose 'anthology' rather than fanzine, because it is ineligible as a convention publication, or some other reason?Hkauderer 18:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Without knowing anything about the publication I couldn't say. Is it this one? PeteYoung 19:14, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
No. It was a book put out for the 20th anniversary of the Toronto SF convention with lots of memoirs, as well as creative works (most reprints) by writers including Robert J. Sawyer and Connie Willis.Hkauderer 19:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
While I'm asking - I'd like to enter the SF poetry award anthologies for the Rhysling and Dwarf Star Awards. Should those be entered as an annual magazine, or each as an anthology?Hkauderer 19:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
The Ad Astra book certainly sounds eligible for inclusion, so I don't know why (or when) it was not accepted. Want to try again? As for the annual poetry anthologies, they should be entered as anthologies even if they may physically resemble magazines. As a comparable example, the BSFA publishes their Awards Annual Collections that may physically look like magazines although they are correctly entered as anthologies. PeteYoung 19:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you.Hkauderer 21:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't know (and have no time to search) who made the change, but when you change the publication date for one in the past (e.g. 2016 replaced by 2015), ALL the contents (without forgetting the cover) must have their date also changed. I've done this for you. Hauck 15:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you!Hkauderer 15:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

SFPA / Science Fiction Poetry Association

Hello, as you know (or not) we regularize publishers. So if SFPA=Science Fiction Poetry Association, and as the specialist on the matter, please choose the regular name. That done, I'll merge them. Thanks. Hauck 09:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I believe the regular name should be SFPA. Even as we virtually chat the organization is having a vote on whether to change their name, and the strong initial response is that the initials MUST remain (as SFWA kept their initials when they changed names), as there is forty years of identity attached to the initials. isfdb could be ahead of the curve in recognizing the group primarily as SFPA. Thanks for your attention to this. I love the work being done here.Hkauderer 15:04, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Done, this should perhaps be fleshed a bit. Hauck 15:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. I will fill out the publisher profile this afternoon.Hkauderer 15:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to make the magazine Star*Line a Publication Series? Or is that just for books?Hkauderer 00:43, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Why would you make it a publication series when it is already a title one (as all magazines are): Star*Line :) Annie 00:54, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
To make it easier to find from via the publisher page.Hkauderer 01:01, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, it's just for books, perhaps a linked line in the notes ("publishes the magazine XXXXX") would suffice. Hauck 06:55, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


Hello, can you remember to disambiguate titles as needed (I'm think of a bunch of Announcements in Star*Line), remember also to close the parenthesis. Thanks. Hauck 16:02, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Sure. I should have thought that even uncredited titles need to be disambiguated. Sorry about that.Hkauderer 16:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

"Convention Updates" credit in Star*Line, November 1979

I think the author credit is either incomplete or got truncated on "Convention Updates} in Star*Line, November 1979. I'm guessing it was meant to be unknown or uncredited, but I can't tell which. Thanks. --MartyD 02:39, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Edit made, thanks.Hkauderer 12:38, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Robin Groth vs Robyn Groth

Hi, In your verified copy of Scifaikuest, May 2015 you give the haiku's "the earth grew cold as" and "darkness" as written by Robin Groth. Can that be a typo (either by you or the magazine, which then counts as a variant name) for Robyn Groth? I encountered the haiku's here as “scifaiku 4” and “scifaiku 5” Scifaikuest May 2015.--Dirk P Broer 22:20, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I have consulted the issue, and in fact that is a typo by me. In both cases it is properly "Robyn". I am consistently impressed with the moderators on this site. I am also getting better at zooming in, triple checking, and putting on my old bifocals to improve my entries. Thanks for catching that.Hkauderer 03:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)


I turned Crowned into a collection. There's no particularly good way to represent the "braided" nature of the individual pieces combining into a single novel. If you search for braided in this Wiki, you'll find several discussions and examples, and no real conclusion. Here, I think it's further complicated by the nature of poem "short" pieces and what would be a novel long piece -- not really what a searcher would expect. So my inclination is to treat it as a collection and record the combining nature in the notes as you did. I don't feel strongly about this, so let me know if you disagree and what ideas you have for a better representation. --MartyD 03:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I think that you made a good decision.Hkauderer 13:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Varianting titles

Hello, the issues of (mostly) Star*Line that you're entereing are generating lots of unvarianted titles that appear on our daily cleanup reports (today there are 17 authors involved for a total of nearly 50 titles of which 98% are of your doing). Allow me to stress the importance of varianting pseudonymistic titles as soon as possible. This task (not really glamorous, I confess) must be accomplished as the bibliographic quality of the db is lessened by "dangling" titles. Instead of entering a new issue, I'd advise you to set the pseudonymistic links first. Thanks. Hauck 09:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

I am happy to do the unglamorous tasks, (and sorry to create tasks for anyone else) but I'm not sure what I should be doing here. If I recognize pseudonyms (I often do), should I be entering the canonical name or as it appears in the issue? (I have gotten some mixed signals on this.) I have registered new links of pseudonyms to the canonical name where I knew them. Is there a separate process of connecting the work to the canonical name? Sorry for my difficulties, but I have not had success looking up some terms and procedures in the wiki. If there is a tutorial that applies I would be happy for direction.Hkauderer 16:39, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
For your first point, the rule is clear "THOU SHALL ENTER AUTHORS' NAMES AS THEY ARE ON BOOK" (note that, as usual, this rule has some exceptions ;-), if not it wouldn't be fun), so you enter the pseudonym if it's what's on the publication. Even if Author "B" is given as a pseudonym of "A" this is not an automatically implementerd relation, so you'll also have to variant each title by "B" to a title by "A", either (if the title by "A" exists), by varianting the by-B one to the the by-A one, and if it doesn't already exist by creating the by-A title (all this is done via the "•Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work " link at By-B title level and choosing the correct option. This is perhaps more clearly explained here. Hauck 16:51, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! I have tried to be accurate to the book when the book is in hand. I am less rigorous with the second-hand entries from the Contento Index as I have some familiarity with their sometimes inappropriate use of names not in book. I note that I successfully varianted some titles. The moderators here are generally so exceptionally fast and efficient that it is often done before I see that the entry has been approved. Please take that as praise.Hkauderer 17:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Titles with differing punctuation

When we have titles that differ in explicitly-provided punctuation, we treat them as if the title text were different, choose one form to be the "canonical", and then make the others variants of that. So in the case of Psi-Rec: I Gladiator (colon and no comma) and Psi-Rec / I, Gladiator (slash and comma), we use the variant approach, rather than merging them and losing one of the two forms of the text. If the verifiers were very active, one could always ping them to double-check the punctuation, but they're not. Michael Hutchins was very particular about punctuation, so I expect the slash-plus-comma one is definitely as the magazine had it. The other, I'm not so sure, but some Google work shows secondary references using the same colon and lack of comma, so I'm willing to believe it's punctuated that way in that book.

That's all a long-winded way of explaining that I rejected your proposed merge of the two and made the former a variant of the latter instead. You can see how it looks on Peter Dillingham's summary page. --MartyD 16:26, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

I should have realized that from examples I've seen. Of course, there's lots of reasons title punctuation changes between reprintings. I'll variant such titles going forward, thanks. Hkauderer 16:29, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Publication vs. Title Series

I have a bunch of edits to add "Rhysling Awards Annual Anthology" as a publication series. This seems like a title series and not a publication series. The ISFDB differentiates publisher series (publisher level series like Ballantine Adult Fantasy) from title series (universe or groupings of books independent of publisher like Dune Universe). I don't see how this equates to a publication series. The same also goes for the Heliocentric Net one. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:59, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

My error on the Heliocentric Net, sorry. I'll be glad to change those. I was trying to get them in a 'Series', not a Publisher Series.Hkauderer 01:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
On the 'Rhysling Awards Annual Anthology', the goal is to get users visiting the publisher SFPA to see that they have three different series of books, one of which is the 'Rhysling Awards'. Since all 33 volumes are specifically and exclusively publications of the same publisher, I thought that was a publisher series, though I have a lot to learn about ISFDb. I understand that series such as David Hartwell's best SF, or Gardner Dozois' best SF are able to change publishers. The Rhyslings cannot change publishers. Does this help? Thanks. (BTW, I loved those Ballantine Adult Fantasies.)Hkauderer 01:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
I agree with JLaTondre, this should stay as a title series, we're in the same configuration than the Nebula Awards series here that effectively changed publishers. You already tried to make a magazine a Publication series (sse above) on the same grounds of visibility at the publisher level, and it wasn't appropriate either. Remember that we're a bibliographical outfit, not a sales assistant or a marketing aid. Hauck 09:01, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
You are the authorities. I'll be glad to start changing things to a title series. As a user, I had a terrible time locating the books. As long as they are connected somehow, I think it will be good for the users.Hkauderer 13:14, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
I have removed both pub series and insured all titles that were associated with those respective publications are in the applicable title series. I also changed the name of the "The Best Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Poetry" title series to "Rhysling Poetry Awards Anthology". It is far more likely users would search on "Rhysling" so it should be in the series name. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Excellent! Thank you very much! Hkauderer 15:04, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Marshella Rockwell vs Marsheila Rockwell

Hi, after reading this I changed the author of Answering the $466 million Question from Marshella Rockwell to Marsheila Rockwell in your verified copy of Star*Line, January-March 2012.--Dirk P Broer 11:38, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. This magazine uses one of three fonts that cause me difficulty in differing from "i" and "l". On the ToC (different font) it is clearly Marsheila, so thanks for the correction. I should be checking the ToC every time with that era of that magazine.Hkauderer 13:13, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Mile vs Milo

Hi, after reading this I changed the author of "gleaming hovercars" from Mile James Fowler into Milo James Fowler in your verified copy of Star*Line, Winter 2013.--Dirk P Broer 00:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. My apologies for not catching that typo. Hkauderer 22:02, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Oddball capitalization

For the capitalization of "Calendar Round," the intention of the standardization rules is to ignore typesetting/publishing choices (the most obvious being the situation where all titles are listed in all caps or all lower case), but to preserve deliberate author/editorial capitalization choices. Assessment of "deliberate" is left to subjective judgement. Usually the best evidence in questionable cases is the author's use of the title in some other context where the surrounding text is normal mixed-case. Where there's obviously distorted mixed-case capitalization (abcDEF, ABCdef, AbcDEF, etc.) chances are good the capitalization is an editorial choice, especially if other titles do not exhibit the same treatment. So you can use your judgment, based on what you see in the magazine and what you find elsewhere. The choice does not affect searching or matching for merging, so it's not hugely important (and standardization is a safe default). --MartyD 22:07, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Skeleton of Light

I've rejected your submission re. Skeleton of Light, which would have made the title a variant of itself. Want to have another go? In the toolbar click 'Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work' then under Option 2 enter "Ivan Argüelles", which is this author's canonical name. Click 'Create New Parent Title'. This will create a canonical parent title record for the non-canonical title. At least I assume this is what you were trying to do? If not, do let me know. Thanks. PeteYoung 03:12, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

I have given it another try, thanks.Hkauderer 14:49, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Kelli vs. Kalli and Hoppmann vs. Hoppman

Hi. I have some submissions on hold that would change cover artist credits on your verified Star*Line, January-March 2012 and Star*Line, Spring 2014 to "Kelli Hoppmann". Do those corrections match what you have in the pubs? Thanks. --MartyD 03:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

On Spring 2014, definitely. On the Jan-Mar 2012 the only credit is on the cover in a difficult typeface, but under the magnifying glass it is probably Kelli (rather than Kalli). Thanks for checking. Hkauderer 12:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
This is pretty clear and better readable than the original about Kelli Hoppmann being the right name for Star*Line, Spring 2014.--Dirk P Broer 16:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
And this is pretty clear and better readable than the original for Star*Line, January-March 2012.--Dirk P Broer 22:36, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Keith Allen Daniels vs Keith Allan Daniels

Hi, Can it be that Keith Allan Daniels in your verified copy of Star*Line, January-February 1992, who wrote The Death of Science Fiction Poetry together with W. Gregory Stewart, Todd Mecklam and Denise Dumars, is no other than the same Keith Allen Daniels that already appears twice in this publication?--Dirk P Broer 16:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

You are correct. I have submitted the edit. Thank you for catching it.Hkauderer 20:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Focus #65 (again)

As I mentioned back in January, I've been working on completing as far as I can our listings for Focus. Regarding your verified Focus #65, I'd like to make a few further changes and additions, with your permission as Primary Verifier.

  • I'd like to expand the Note such that it more resembles that of Focus #66, although without the reference to letters as there aren't any in this issue.
  • Page 12 has the new section 'Re/Source ...' credited to Terry Jackman. This is a revamp of her 'News from Orbit' section from previous issues of Focus and it also appears in issue #66, therefore I have created a series for it.
  • Pages 24-25 appears to be a promotion (not an ad) for the Arvon Writer's Workshop, but it contains an essay and an interview. My feeling is that it would be no harm to add these. What do you think?
  • The section 'Poems from the Stars' also has an introductory essay by Charles Christian, which I've been putting into a series when he writes one, so I'd like to add this.
  • Regarding Charles Christian's role as poetry editor, I've been including him as an editor alongside the Editor-in-Chief and design editor for each issue (this seems to be our default for publications from the BSFA) so I'd like to add him and Alex Bardy as editors alongside Dev Agarwal.
  • I'd like to add 'Becoming a Better Writer' on page 43, which is also part of a series.

Do let me know your opinion on all the above, I'm happy to do the work. Thanks! PeteYoung 15:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

These look like fine edits.
  • In expanding the note to parallel the note on Focus #66, I will mention that my records say #65 "was released around March 9, 2016" despite the Winter 2015/16 designation. I suspect you knew that, but since that is not easily verifiable I am sharing what I know.
  • Making series for 'Re/Source...' and the introductory essays of 'Poems from the Stars' sounds like a good idea.
  • Given the nature of the magazine, adding the promotion on pages 24-25 sounds like a good idea.
  • Regarding the listing of additional editors, I think it's a nice thing to do. I have been wrestling with it working on Star*Line.
  • The feature on page 43 I just plain missed. Please add it.
I really like that you are working on Focus, as I have been working on Star*Line. Interesting questions come up that might not be considered without a bit of a specialist. Good luck. Hkauderer 20:44, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
OK, job done. Let me know if something doesn't agree with you! Thanks again. PeteYoung 05:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Scifaikuest, May 2015


Can you check the spelling of Robin Groth in this issue? Can it be a misspelling for Robyn Groth? Robyn Grothdoes claim two poems in that issue here. So it looks like either a misspelling in the magazine (so a pseudonym is in order) or a typo here? Thanks! Annie 19:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

And while I am here, can you also take a look at "Starsong, March 1990" and see if Sydney Williams is not actually Sidney Williams. The official site is claiming it so same as above - pseudonym needed if the magazine made the typo or is it a typo on the entry? Thanks! Annie 19:44, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
In Scifaikuest, it is correctly Robyn. I have submitted the edits. In Starsong it is correctly Sidney. I have submitted the edit. Thank you for catching my errors. Hkauderer 20:27, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Perfect. Thanks! Typos are a pain, aren't they? :) Annie 21:31, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Star*Line, Fall 2016

Hi again :) Found one more possible typo: can you check if Simon Pershik is not actually Simon Perchik? Thanks! Annie 21:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

One more: In "Star*Line, January-February 1992", is Todd Mecklam a typo for Todd Mecklem? They seem to collaborate with the same people so it does look like a typo? Annie 21:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
And one more (I am less sure in that one but if you do not mind checking): Sozoryoku, #5 - Rose Wolfe for Rose Wolf. Thanks! Annie 21:37, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
On Pershik, Perchik is correct. I have submitted the edit (and actually found a second correction to make on the issue.)
Mecklam/Mecklem is a strange case as the introductory note to the collaborative poem says Mecklam, and the poem is signed Mecklem. I have submitted an edit to change the credit to Mecklem.
Maybe add a pub note in the magazine or in the poem explaining that so the next editor that validates do not get confused on the different spelling? Annie 22:16, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Note submitted. Hkauderer 22:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
In Sozoryoku #5 Rose Wolfe has a final 'e' in the ToC, and on the poem. I note that a number of issues of Sozoryoku use a very difficult font, so mistakes are easy to make there.
As I said - I was not so sure about Wolf/Wolfe - will do some digging to see if I can connect the dots there somehow or it is a really close name but still a different person. Thanks for fixing the rest! Annie 22:16, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Hunting things down is what makes this like a detective story! Hkauderer 22:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
If you want to do some more hunting: Carter on Kadath and Dandelion Wine. As you are the verifier for both magazines containing these two, can you see if you there is anything in either that may point to a connection? If that fails, I will just leave these two alone for now... Annie 00:59, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
The two issues definitely spell the name differently. Star*Line is adamant about not including author info. Sozoryoku includes the log line "Orlando, Fla." I note that the issue of Star*Line was edited by Marge Simon from Ocala FL, which is a nearby city. Other than that, there seem no clear connections. I note that the poems read very much as if written by the same author, and they share similar subject matter. This is not a cursory comment. In my day job, I'm an English professor, and one of my specialties is stylistic comparison (albeit, usually of 17th century texts). I would never assume based on style that it was the same person. But I would certainly use style as supporting evidence. I suppose if this gets intriguing enough I could ask Marge Simon if she has any recollection of the poet.
If you do not mind asking, that will be helpful. Part of the problem is that the name is pretty common so Google is a bit useless - or at least not as easy to find other evidence as with more uncommon names. But with the log line, I will see if I can somehow connect based on that somewhere. I will keep digging - this kind of things annoys me. Annie 01:37, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for catching these. Hkauderer 21:53, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

(unindent) While I have you around:)
Sozoryoku, #7 - any bio available for J. D. Thibodeaux? I wonder if it is not the same as Jane Duchamp Thibodeaux?

Relevant bio in issue says "Previously the author has been published in such small press journals as The Haunted Sun, Night Songs and Heliocentric Net." I just checked my stack of Night Songs and my stack of Heliocentric Net, and they all post-date Sozoryoku, so Thibodeaux must have been in the earliest issues of those magazines.
Well - the only one under the full name is in "The Haunted Sun #3, Spring 1991". Which is one of the list. I think it needs a bit more of digging but it looks like the same person. Annie 00:47, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Sozoryoku, #3 - any chance that Kin Elizabeth Laico is the same as Kim Laico (from Sozoryoku, #2 for example) (and most likely Kim Elizabeth Laico as well (looking for the verifier on that one to see if we can connect the dots)? Annie 23:22, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

And this points to the second connection on Laico - so can you check your "Kin" before I get the other 2 connected? :) Annie 23:29, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
I am happy to believe that should be Kim. I find the font used miserable, and looking at the last letter of her first name provides little evidence of what the letter is, even with a magnifying glass. In fact throughout the issue I can only describe the letter as 'blob'. But with some incentive, I tried reading some of the prose and interpreting, and I am now fairly sure that 'blob' = m. I have submitted the edit changing Kin to Kim.
In addition, Laico's appearance in #2 & #3 each carry the logline "Staten Island, New York". Normally I would consider the appearances in consecutive issues with the same logline to be convincing enough to merge the authors. I confess I have not fully teased out the difference between a pseudonym and a disambiguated name, so I leave that to you.
I will see what I can do about that after some more digging. The difference is easy: a pseudonym is for 1 person with two names (in this case - Kim Elizabeth Laico and Kim Laico. Disambiguated name is for 2 people with the same name - when we have two people named John Smith and we do not know an initial to differentiate by that. Annie 00:47, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah. Thank you. I often wade into the wiki explanations, and sometimes my eyes glaze over. :~)
And one weird title: Mark McLaughlin in Sozoryoku, #3 - did you have the title and author switched by chance? Annie 23:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
I did switch it. Just a weird mistake on my part. I have submitted the correction. It is helpful to do these in a bunch, thanks. I store the octavo and quarto issues of Sozoryoku separately. Easier to get them all out at one time. I feel like I used to have the rest of the issues of Sozoryoku as well. Perhaps they will turn up. I feel like a box or two of these things may be lurking in the attic. Hkauderer 00:18, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I know the feeling . As I found a few on these, I ran through all the issues to see if I can spot something else while you are looking at that bunch anyway :) That should be all of them for now -- until I spot something else of course... Annie 00:47, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. I can tell that I am doing much better these days, but I feel like I could use spring break to review the first month or more of New Pubs I entered. Of course fresh eyes are always better. Hkauderer 00:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Secondary Sourcing

When primary verifying a publication, generic secondary source statements (ex. "Data from publisher's website") should be removed. If primary verified, the data should be from the publication itself. If there is information not present on the publication (ex. date), than the secondary sourcing should be used with a specific statement of what information is from where (ex. "No date in publication. Date from publisher's website"). I removed generic secondary sourcing statements from the two primary verified publication edits I just approved. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:26, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I will do that going forward. Hkauderer 12:50, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Frostfire Worlds, November 2015

Hello again, can you check one author in that publication - Jakob Drub. Is it indeed different from Jakob Drud? Thanks! Annie 19:59, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Drud is correct. Edit submitted.Hkauderer 20:01, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. :) One more: In "Star*Line, Spring 2016", is Neil Wilgus by any chance Neal Wilgus? Thanks! Annie 20:03, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Neal is correct. Edit submitted. I think Neal Wilgus has had one of the more interesting publishing careers ever. Hkauderer 20:51, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
When you have a career that long and you write across all forms, you end up with such an interesting record... But yes - I was looking at some of the publications and he almost can write a history of the genre on his own :) I wonder if Neal F. Wilgus is not him again. And even Neal Wingus. I think I am going to do some digging this weekend... Annie 22:01, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Scifaikuest, February 2016

In Scifaikuest, February 2016, there are two ""severed claw twitches". Is this correct? Are they the same poem or different? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:00, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes. They are the same poem with the same author printed on two different pages. This is the third time I've come upon double printed works, which strikes me as funny. I assume I am supposed to leave them both in.Hkauderer 00:05, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes, you can leave both in. And unfortunately, we don't handle that case very well. Worse even than I remembered. I tried merging the two titles, but then only one appeared in the publication. I then unmerged it, but it lost the page number for the one. If you can tell me what the second one was, I'll fix it. The best thing to do is add a note explaining these cases to the title and publication records. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Pages 8 & 17. I'm glad to add a note. The note ability is a great feature of this wiki.Hkauderer 00:51, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

MacIntyre's Improbable Bestiary

I have rejected your addition of MacIntyre's Improbable Bestiary as it already exists. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:47, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I felt as if it should exist, I just couldn't find it when I was entering the review. Hkauderer 21:09, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Lauren McBride Poems

Lauren McBride has three matching poem titles that appear in two different Frostfire Worlds:

As you have verified these two pubs, are these the same poems repeated 4 months apart or are the different poems. If the same, the respective pairs need to be merged together. If different, than notes need to be added to the title records. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

These are in fact the same poems repeated 4 months apart. I have submitted the merges. Thanks for noticing. This kind of reflects the year that Alban Lake had. Hopefully they will get a little more organized this year.Hkauderer 01:41, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Fixing Star*Line, September-October 2002 contents

Hi. I have left your submission on hold so that you can look at it -- you'll see it doesn't do anything with the contents (I don't have a way to know what you tried to do within the edit). To fix the problem you describe in your note:

  1. View the pub and choose Remove Titles From This Pub under Editing Tools, at the left.
  2. Check one instance of "Doubt" and one instance of "Salon de Nadir" (it does not matter which).
  3. Submit that with a note-to-the-moderator that you're removing duplicates and will do a merge once accepted, and wait for your submission to be approved.
  4. Merge the duplicates. A handy trick: Go back to the pub and use Check for Duplicate Titles (which is also in Editing Tools) to find them.

By merging instead of deleting, you avoid any considerations about which is in the pub, which is not, and whether any of them appear elsewhere. The process of merging will take care of all of that. If you need help or would rather I do it, just ask. --MartyD 15:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. "Remove Titles" worked great. I will follow up with the merges after approval. The more I use the system, the better I get. And I still have a lot of room for improvement. :~) Hkauderer 16:08, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
You're doing fine. The system is complicated and just a wee bit less than clear, shall we say. We moderators are here to help, and we very much appreciate contributors who try to learn the ropes and improve. You have been doing good work, and no explanation has been a waste of time, so no complaints. --MartyD 16:23, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the encouragement. Hkauderer 16:26, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Vision #13, 1992

Hi, I added a cover for your verified copy of Vision #13, 1992. In the contents list on the internet I couldn't find the 'Part Four' part of your verified "Who Art They: Part Four" title though, nor can I find any other parts of a serial published by Steven B. Joy. You being Herb Kauderer himself must give you expert knowledge about this publication series.--Dirk P Broer 13:03, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

The ToC lists only the title. On page 14 it lists the title, and under it "(Part Four * The End)" although the star is a bullet. I cannot find other listed parts of the serial, but my guess would be that the author lost count. The following stories feature the characters Jane L Lynn and R. Casper - Vision issue #1 There and Back?, #2 Research, #3 Life Form, #4 Fear of Extinction, #13 Who Are They?. I checked all stories by Steven (B.) Joy through all issues of Vision, and those are the only five featuring those characters. Perhaps this is a time to replace the serial designation with the Fiction Series designation. I don't know what the standard practice is.
Thank you for adding the cover. The covers for the entire run were exceptional. I have had many complete runs that did not survive the vagaries of life. This fondly remembered magazine did, and I am happy to have all 18 issues at hand. Hkauderer 01:49, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Star*Line, October-December 2011

Hi, small printing in difficult fonts again: your verified copy of Star*Line, October-December 2011 features the work The Sorcerer's Curse by ayaz daryl nielsen, written without capitals. It also features the work Ch-Ch-Children! by Ayaz Daryl Neilsen, with capitals and with 'ei' instead of 'ie'. The Online Star*Line, October-December 2011 gives them both as Ayaz Daryl Nielsen. Which is the truth? [Or are there alternate facts at work here?] Can you get your magnifying glass to check this out?--Dirk P Broer 21:10, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

It was Ayaz Daryl Nielsen in both cases. Both edits have been submitted. My recollection is that I expanded the contents when I verified the issue. I obviously didn't do the best job verifying. I also realized on this review that a section of the issue had been guest edited, so I added the second editor's credit. Thanks for catching it. Hkauderer 01:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Possible Variants

Here are two possible variants:

In both cases, since you have verified both pubs, would you mind checking if these are the same poem? If they are, they should be varianted. If they aren't notes should be added. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:57, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

In each case these are different poems of the same title by the same author. With "Walpurgis Night" is both instances the poem is untitled and that is the first line in quotation marks. I have submitted a punctuation edit on the May 2016 poem. I have submitted notes on the later published poem in each case noting that it is different than the previous poem of the same title. Confusing stuff. Thanks for catching it. Hkauderer 01:10, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Amal El Mohtar vs Amal El-Mohtar

Hi, I've taken the liberty of submitting a change request for your verified copy of Star*Line, July-August 2006, where you have the poem 'Forfeit' credited to Amal El Mohtar, while we have only that poem for her and plenty for Amal El-Mohtar.~I can be mistaken though, in case this will turn out to be a variant name. Can you please check?--Dirk P Broer 02:01, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

On page 19, and in the ToC it is listed without the hyphen as Amal El Mohtar.Hkauderer 00:58, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Made her a variant of Amal El-Mohtar.--Dirk P Broer 00:22, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Elizabeth Barrett vs Elizabeth Barrette

In that same issue of Star*Line, July-August 2006 you attributed Alien Einsteins to a Elizabeth Barrett. Can that be a typo for Elizabeth Barrette? At least this site seems to indicate that.--Dirk P Broer 22:57, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

On page 16, and in the ToC it is listed as Elizabeth Barrett.Hkauderer 00:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
The Contento Index is impressive, but also imperfect. But aren't we all?Hkauderer 01:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Remains strange that Elizabeth Barrett has only one poem and that Elizabeth Barrette has lots in the same period and publishes in the same magazine. If you happen to know her please ask about it.--Dirk P Broer 22:39, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
This feels like a variant. And it feels as if I should know Elizabeth Barrette. I have sent a Facebook request to her. I know the editor who bought the poem, but eleven years is a very long time to remember such details. I let you know if I get an answer on the FB query. Hkauderer 01:50, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I encountered Alien Einsteins in Prismatica: Science Fiction Poetry Spanning the Spectrum by Elizabeth Barrette. I'll make it a variant name.--Dirk P Broer 11:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Byron Kernan vs Byron Kerman

Hi, in your verified copy of Star*Line, July-August 2006 you credited Three Haiku to Byron Kernan. Can that be a typo -either by you or the magazine- for Byron Kerman? This site seems to indicate that.--Dirk P Broer 23:15, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

This is actually in Star*Line, Jan-Feb 2006. On page 10, and in the ToC it is listed as Byron Kernan.Hkauderer 00:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Bobby G. Wagner

In Starsong, March 1991, you credit the poem on page 83 to Bobby G. Wagner. Should this be Bobby G. Warner? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Page 83 and the ToC both list it as Bobby G. Wagner. Hkauderer 00:51, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Is there anything in the magazine to indicate it's the same person? If so, a pseudonym relationship should be established. The same would go for some of the prior questions above. While we list the credit as given, if it's clear that it's the same person, we establish pseudonyms and create a variant. Sometimes there isn't enough information and we have to live with the ambiguity, but sometimes it's close enough (like with Concerto credit on the prior two it's highly likely they are the same people). -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
There is no other mention of Bobby G. Wagner in the issue of Starsong #15. I checked the surrounding pages, the editorial, and the list of contributors bios. He isn't mentioned outside the poem and the ToC. Likewise, the three cases above for Star*Line, there is no mention. All four cases seem like likely variant names of established writers, but I have no evidence.
I find this part of bibliographic research fascinating. I researched and found external evidence that Daryl Nielsen, Ayaz Daryl Neilsen, and ayaz daryl nielsen are all the same person. I provided clues to Annie regarding some possible variants. Given that I got tagged with an unwanted variant myself, this seems useful as well as interesting. (Dare I mention a mundane specialty of analyzing the questionably attributed works of Shakespeare?) It all feels a little like detective work. And a lot of fun. Hkauderer 01:47, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

It Started with a Word by Shelly Bryant

In your Frostfire Worlds, August 2015, is "It Started with a Word" by Shelly Bryant (page 24) a story or an essay? The author has another entry with the same title that is essay. On that one, the magazine is visible via Amazon and its listed as an article. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Upon actually reading the piece, it is an essay. An edit has been submitted. Hkauderer 20:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Poem in Summer 2016 Star*Line

Could you double check the credit for the poem, "Learning the History of War" on page 4 pf the Summer 2016 issue of Star*Line? We've got the author listed as "J. J. Steinfield". The credit is listed on the Star*Line website as "J. J. Steinfeld" which is how that author is usually known. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:58, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Steinfeld is correct. An edit has been submitted. Thanks for catching it. Hkauderer 20:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Scifaikuest February 2015

In this issue of Scifaikuest which you verified, there's an interview. Is it by Rie Sheridan Rose or with her? I think the interviewer and the interviewee might be switched. --Vasha 23:54, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Good catch. Edit submitted. Hkauderer 02:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Moon Madness & Refuge

There are two cases for you to look at where a poem with the same title was published relatively closely together in the same magazine:

In each case, if they are the same, they should be merged and if they aren't, notes should be added. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

In the first case it was an unidentified reprint. The merge-edit has been submitted. In the second case, there was a note that the work was being reprinted due to a misspelling (which was the word 'remuneration'). I have submitted a merge-edit assuming that it should be considered the same poem despite the two letter difference between printings. Thanks. Hkauderer 01:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, for such a slight change, we would consider it the same work. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

The Dreaded Dreadnoughtus

Another possible duplicate poem: The Dreaded Dreadnoughtus and The Dreaded Dreadnoughts

Is the spelling correct on the first one ("us" vs "s" at end)? And are these the same poem? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:27, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Dreadnoughtus is correct in both instances. An edit has been submitted to correct the second. They are the same poem. A merge edit has been submitted. (It completely missed me that this poem was nominated for the Rhysling. Probably just as well. :~) Hkauderer 02:43, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
From the peanut gallery, just for future references - you could have submitted just the merge and select the correct name for the merged work :) Annie 02:45, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip! Hkauderer 15:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Frostfire Worlds

I have added cover images to Frostifre Worlds, February 2016 and May 2016. I have 2 questions about those issues. A. The website spells the name "FrostFire", what about in the magazine? B. You have the size of one indicated as "bedsheet" and the other as "digest". This magazine is 8-1/2 by 11 inches (letter paper size) which isn't either of those formats. --Vasha 00:06, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

The Feb 2016 issue was the first in the smaller format. The edit has now been submitted. Good catch. The website, and their emails, have been inconsistent on whether it is Frostfire, or FrostFire. For the two issues in question, the name has been rendered in all capitals on the cover and inside. However, on the interiors it appears that the FF and W are boldfaced. I'm willing to believe that is meant in lieu of capitalization. I have submitted edits to change the title to FrostFire. Hkauderer 02:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The Adventures of Colo Collins & Tama Toledo in Space and Time

Regarding The Adventures of Colo Collins & Tama Toledo in Space and Time in your verified Frostfire magazines: Is this a serial or a series? It is currently entered as a mix. It should be one or the other. If it's a single continuous story, it would be a serial. Otherwise, it a series. An episodic story sometimes can be borderline, but can usually be resolved via publishing context (i.e. is it designed to published as a single story). -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

It is definitely a serial. Edit submitted. Hkauderer 01:03, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
This is going to need more editing. The series should be removed from the titles, and they should all be made a variant of the composite (I'm supposing NOVEL) The Adventures of Colo Collins & Tama Toledo in Space and Time. Take a look at Help:Use_of_the_SERIAL_type. --MartyD 02:21, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Questions: 1) The serial refers to each installment as 'Episode' in the ToC, but 'Chapter' on the actual installment. Which is preferred? 2) One installment has an irregular version of the serial title on the installment, but the regular version in the ToC. Should I go with the regular version and add a note regarding the irregular point? 3) Will I be able to delete the series once the individual titles have been removed? Thanks. Hkauderer 19:22, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
The ISFDB standard is to use what's on the title page, not what appears in to ToC. So for #1, you should go with "Chapter", and for #2 you should go with the irregular title. In both cases, noting any discrepancies with the ToC (in the pub notes) is a good idea. For the irregular title, you might also put a similar note in the title record itself. The installment titles will end up grouped under the composite title in the bibliography, and it should look ok (a little strange, but it should be apparent that installment had an irregular title). As for #3, if the series does not go away when the last title is removed from it -- sorry, it doesn't happen often, and I don't recall the behavior -- it can definitely be deleted; there is a Delete Series option. If you need any help with this, don't hesitate to ask. --MartyD 01:41, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
I have regularized the titles for the chapters that I verified, and attempted to remove them from series. However, the chapter verified by VWCrist should probably include the Chapter 6 title "The World That Warmed". But I don't know how to contact VWCrist given that when I click on her name I am taken to a blank page. I got the title from a website, and therefore don't want to edit a verified entry. Hkauderer 23:06, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
From the peanut gallery: Look at the top of the blank page. There are tabs there - one of them is "discussion". Click on it. It will lead you to here. The name leads to an empty page because they had not added anything to their user page Annie 23:19, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
It's as Annie says: A person's "talk" page is that discussion tab. It's also named "User_talk:USERNAME". So yours (this page) is User_talk:Hkauderer, mine is User_talk:MartyD, and VWCrist's is User_talk:VWCrist. Your thought to contact her is on the money, but do you have that issue of FrostFire Worlds, too? If you do, you could make the change, do a Primary 2 verification, and let her know what you did to it. In that case it would be pretty safe to assume she went by the TOC. --MartyD 01:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the headsup on how the user talk works. I do not have the issue in question, only those issues to which I contributed. Sometimes I dream of retiring to a house so big I could have all the books and magazines I want. But then I realize that there is no house that large... Hkauderer 23:36, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

addition to Not One of Us: Care

I added story lengths to Not One of Us: Care --Vasha 08:25, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Gregory Fitz Gerald

Regarding my edit to Xenophilia, July 1993: You had the note "It says Gregory FitzGerald in the ToC, and Gregory Fitz Gerald on the poem. I have opted for the first version as that name already exists on ISFDb." With few exceptions, we credit per the title page, even if that means entering a new form and creating a pseudonym. However, in this case, Gregory Fitz Gerald was also already in the database. The one other entry for "Gregory FitzGerald" was from a secondary source and has also been corrected. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for handling it. Hkauderer 02:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Dietmar Tachner --> Dietmar Tauchner

Hi, I have transformed the author name of the poem "stars beyond stars" in Star*Line, Winter 2016, assuming a typo: there was another poem by Tauchner in that very issue and the title fits with his preferred titling idiosyncracy. I have also added some biographical data to the author. Hope that fits, Stonecreek 08:41, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Well done. Thank you. Hkauderer 23:05, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Star*Line, Winter 2017

The change I made to type publication was to change a review-as-essay into a linked review. --Vasha 14:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.Hkauderer 23:07, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

JD DeHart

Hi, in Frostfire Worlds, August 2015; FrostFire Worlds, November 2015; Star*Line, Summer 2013; Star*Line, Summer 2014; and Star*Line, Winter 2015; and Star*Line, Winter 2017, which you verified, how is JD DeHart's name printed? without periods, like most of the records in our database and like it is on all of the publisher's website listings, or with periods, the way it is in these publications currently? Please change the records to "JD" if appropriate. Thanks, --Vasha 03:18, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

No periods in any instance. Changes submitted. Thanks. Hkauderer 11:39, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! By the way, do you still get issues of Frostfire Worlds or other Alban Lake magazines? When I do monthly magazine updates, I've been putting off entering Alban Lake publications because I hope that you, Vonnie Winslow Crist, or someone else will enter them from physical copies. The information they have on their website is only partial. --Vasha 21:48, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
I get contributor's copies of whatever Alban Lake publications contain my writing, and I plan to enter the new Scifaikuest in the morning. However, Alban Lake has had a great deal of change in the editorship, and they are now 6-14 months behind in handling submissions. Except for Scifaikuest: the editor there is like clockwork and rarely takes more than a week to answer. She is a blessing. I am in all of Scifaikuest for this year, and I believe the next Outposts of Beyond (July). The rest of the Alban Lake magazines may randomly use my (or Vonnie's) submissions with notice and payment after the fact. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. It often seems to me that this publisher fills an important niche in the field(s), but with minimal organization.Hkauderer 23:06, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Polu Texni

I have your Polu Texni additions on-hold. Non-downloadable webzines are only included if they are SFWA membership eligible market (don't belive that applies here) or if the works were shortlisted for a major award. That also doesn't seem the case here either since you're entering them in order. Am I missing something? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm not aware that SFWA has a rate for poetry, and since the SFWA fiction rate rose to six cents a word, Polu Texni no longer qualifies that way. So I guess these don't qualify. Good to know about the shortlisting exception, thanks.Hkauderer 00:27, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Characters with tildes, etc.

I don't know how to make things like ñ using the keyboard (there are key sequences), but on Windows I use the Character Map. Another handy trick is to Google without and then copy/paste the correct character from the results. --MartyD 11:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I should have figured out the second work around.Hkauderer 11:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


Hello, I've put your submission on hold. I'm not sure that this magazine is a genre magazine, as per their site they "publish everything from adventure stories to fantasy and folklore" and they seem (IMHO of course) to take pain to avoid being catalogued as spec-fic. The very high level of potentially new authors to the db (except you) is also significant. IMHO it's better to treat this issue as a non-genre magazine. It means credit to "Editors of XXX", no cover upload and to enter only the spec-fic texts. Hauck 06:25, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I was looking for a second opinion. I have half a dozen issues and other than Denny Marshall and I it's new people. While most of the contents fit into spec-fic, perhaps if they decline that designation it is best to let them do their own thing. Hkauderer 14:11, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Dwarf Stars 2016

I accepted your addition of Dwarf Stars 2016. Regarding your note to the moderator ("I don't know how these types of anthologies are actually connected to getting preliminary nominations registered. Does someone need to be notified?"): I believe you are asking how award information gets entered? For supported awards, it is entered by interested editors (help). However, the Dwarf Stars is not an award that is currently supported by the ISFDB. This page lists the currently supported awards. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:51, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! I think that as long as users can find the Dwarf Stars anthologies, the award does not particularly need to be supported here. But it's good to know the process. Hkauderer 12:25, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Dreams & Nightmares issue price

Hello, I've deleted the individual price for your recently updated issues. As we enter the stated price (not the calculated one) you can't write "No single issue price listed" in the notes and give a price. Hauck 18:06, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. I didn't know how to approach it. I figured someone would have an intelligent suggestion. :~) Hkauderer 22:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Possible Typos 06-05

The following are possibly typos in your verified pubs:

It would be appreciated if you could double check these, and 1) if they are misspelled in the database, correct them; or 2) if that is the spelling used in the publication, add an applicable note to the title record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Done. Four typos, four oddities worthy of notes. Thanks for catching them. Hkauderer 23:40, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Star*Line, January-February 1990

Your verified publication includes an entry for "Desktop Poetry • essay by Jim Gall". This is certainly in the same series as "Desktop Poetry • essay by Jimm Gall" from the previous issue. I'm guessing that this was a typo in the data entry process, although there's always the possibility his name was actually misspelled by the magazine, in which case we would need to variant it. But either way, it should probably be repaired. Chavey 16:16, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Corrected. Thanks for catching it. Hkauderer 20:46, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

Name check: Jessica Jo Horowitz


Can you check the spelling of Jessica Jo Horowitz's name in Grievous Angel, April 16, 2017. We already have Jessica J. Horowitz who has two poems in the DB (and you have one of the magazines with one of them). If her name is indeed spelled Jo, does any of the magazines contain any bios so we can see if they are the same people person so we can pseudonym? Thanks! Annie 04:47, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

In Grievous Angel in both the introduction and with the work, it is Jessica Jo Horowitz. In the other two instances it is Jessica J. on both ToC and page. Hkauderer 20:47, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

Name check: Karen L. Neuman

Hello again,

One more: in your verified Star*Line, November-December 2006, there are 3 poems by Karen L. Neuman on page 20 and these are her only works in the DB. Can you check if she is not actually Karen L. Newman (another link just in case) who has a lot more poems in that period and the name is very close? A typo maybe ? And if not a typo on your part, can it be a typo from the magazine? Any bios to help? Annie 23:19, 20 June 2017 (EDT)

On ToC and page it is Neuman. I know the editor from that era, and while I consider it very unlikely she would remember such minutia, I am willing to ask her about it next time I see her. Hkauderer 20:50, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest, May 2016


Is My Favorite Poem (Scifaikuest, May 2016) really a poem? The same named entries in other issues are added as essays. Thanks!Annie 12:19, 27 June 2017 (EDT)

This one was added as a poem as well so I changed it to an essay. Annie 12:20, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
I think they should be essays, but the May 2016 was three lines of essay and 21 lines of poetry. I can see what I was thinking when I entered it. :~) Hkauderer 20:32, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
Essay it is then - I will change it :) You had the editorial in the same issue as a poem so I think you just went on a "all is a poem" kinda thing :) Can you also check if the author is credited with her full first name or just T.? Annie 20:40, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
Teri. Hkauderer 16:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

"At the Temporal Cafe", by David Clink

Your verified book The Role of Lightning in Evolution included a poem titled "At the Temporal Cafe", by David Clink. I have varianted that title to "At the Temporal Café" (with the accent on the final "e"). If you have the chance, it would be helpful to check the spelling of that title in your book and see if it already included that accent mark. Chavey 18:34, 22 July 2017 (EDT)

On page and on ToC it has the accent. When I entered the book I had not hit upon the fairly obvious technique of copying and pasting characters that my keyboard was lacking. Thank you seeing that. Hkauderer 11:01, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
I'm pretty good at getting the basic European accents (on a Macintosh you usually type one "Option-key" character, then the regular character), but there are times for unusual characters that I have to someplace else to do a copy and paste. I had to do that recently with a Lydii͡a. I have NO idea how to get that arc to combine two characters, so I went to a Wikipedia page to copy it. Anyway, I corrected the second "Cafe" to have the accent, and combined it with the existing title. Chavey 21:10, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
Thank you. Hkauderer 11:47, 28 July 2017 (EDT)
Alt-130 for ye olde DOS adepts.--Dirk P Broer 09:24, 23 September 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest August 2015

Hi, Am I right in thinking that the illustrator of Scifaikuest August 2015, Sarah Malone is the same as the poet Sarah Marone of the poem Gania in that same issue?--Dirk P Broer 09:23, 23 September 2017 (EDT)

Yes. I have submitted a correction. Thank you for your sharp eyes. Hkauderer 18:20, 29 September 2017 (EDT)

Dreams & Nightmares, #106

You have verified two magazines each with the name Dreams & Nightmares, #106m but different dates and contents: 618642 & 635391. Should the second be #107? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:20, 2 October 2017 (EDT)

Absolutely! Thanks. I made a point of noting to finish my coffee before I start entering things. This brings my note home. :~) Edit submitted. Hkauderer 00:39, 3 October 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest February 2017 & Illumen Summer 2017

Just wanted to let you know that the untitled haiku in Scifaikuest February 2017 & "the weight of each breath" in Illumen Summer 2017 should be attributed to Peter Roberts (1952-) (that's me) rather than to Peter Roberts (who apparently is English, which I am not). Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PeterRoberts (talkcontribs) .

Scifaikuest, May 2017

In your verified Scifaikuest, May 2017, should the essay on the last page be "My Favorite Poem" vs "Favorite Poem"? -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:55, 21 October 2017 (EDT)

On page it says "Favorite Poem". In the ToC it says "my favorite poem". I have previously been told to prefer the on page. Hopefully I got it right. Hkauderer 19:55, 24 October 2017 (EDT)
You did it correct. Title page is what is supposed to be used. I was just curious if it was a typo in the database since the others are all "My Favorite Poem". -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:45, 24 October 2017 (EDT)

The Square Root of Doppelgangers

You have verified the pubs containing The Square Root of Doppelgangers and The Square Root of Doppelgängers. Are these the same poem and is the absence/presence of the umlaut correct on both titles? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:36, 6 November 2017 (EST)

They are the same poem, and both versions include the umlaut. Between entries I learned the trick of copying a special character and pasting it in a desired text field. I will put through a merge request. Thanks. Hkauderer 20:21, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Denis / Denise Dumars

Hi. Could you check the spelling of the name "Denis Dumars" in your verified issues of Star*Line Summer 2014 and Spring 2015 to see if it's not really spelled "Denise Dumars" as that author seems to be the same person, judging by her longish bibliography. Either corrections or pseudonym/variants need to be done. Thanks much, Doug / Vornoff 13:40, 8 November 2017 (EST)

In both cases Denise is correct. Corrections have been submitted. Thanks for catching it. Hkauderer 20:26, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Star*Line, Autumn 2013

You verified this magazine as having an essay titled "President's Message, Star*Line Winter 2013". Since an essay by that title also occurs in the Winter 2013 issue, I wonder if Jeannie just ran the same essay in two issues? Or more likely, that this essay should be titled "President's Message, Star*Line Autumn 2013" instead? Chavey 21:48, 21 November 2017 (EST)

No, that was my mistake. Thanks for catching it. The edit has been submitted.Hkauderer 12:25, 2 December 2017 (EST)
Thanks! Chavey 23:25, 2 December 2017 (EST)

Cemetary: A Horrorku Suite

In your Scifaikuest, August 2017, is Cemetary: A Horrorku Suite (p43) actually misspelled "Cemetary" in the publication or is that a database error? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:47, 2 December 2017 (EST)

My entry error. Edit submitted, thanks.Hkauderer 19:02, 2 December 2017 (EST)

Flying Solo Review

I rejected your review link. You were linking a review of one of your books to a Malcolm Rose's "The Devil's Footprints". I assume you meant to link to this instead? If so the reason it did not auto-link is that the title is not an exact match. Reviews will only auto-link if the author name and the title exactly match. In this case, the review does not have the subtitle. As for the wrong linkage, you used the publication record number (618801). You need to use the title record number (2204347) instead. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:04, 3 December 2017 (EST)

Two Holds

I'me holding two submissions:

  • Scifaikuest, November 2017 addition: It looks like this pub is already entered (here) and this is a duplicate submission?
  • "archipelago" variant: The proposed new parent matches the existing record? Did you forget to change something?

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:30, 5 December 2017 (EST)

The Scifaikuest appears to be a duplicate submission, both credited to me. Somehow I must have sent it twice, even though I entered it only once. I don't know how I did that. With the poem, I was trying to merge "archipelago" and "sky island hopping" which are the same poem, but one appearance without the title. As I was doing it, I realized I forgot how to do that, and I should try again when fresh and with help. Thanks. Hkauderer 20:50, 5 December 2017 (EST)
I've rejected the edits and varianted "sky island hopping" to "archipelago". Please double check that I understood you correctly on that. I also rejected your review link submission. As stated in the above section, you were using the publication record number. Review links need to used the title record number. I made the correct linkage for you. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:43, 5 December 2017 (EST)

D. L. Mattila

D. L. Mattila and dl mattila both appear in your verified pubs. I assume these are the same author? If so, it should be standardized. Does the author use initials or not? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:59, 6 December 2017 (EST)

The initials appear in both cases, the question is of periods and cases. I confess that I am downright confused by what I've read about how to register some entries. When in doubt I try to always go with what is on the page of the story or poem. But it seems arbitrary to chart when an author uses periods with their initials, and when not, particularly as that is usually up to the publisher. Is there a clear policy on such cases? Should teri santitoro always be Teri Santitoro? Hkauderer 17:31, 6 December 2017 (EST)
In the past, we always normalized to periods for initials and capitalized. Lately, the periods rule has been relaxed when the author doesn't use them. However, we don't create pseudonyms when they are sometimes credited with and without periods. Instead, we pick one (usually based on the author's preference when doable) and just add notes to those cases that are different. So far, we are still sticking with the capitalization rule. Searching on-line, it seems no-periods is her standard so I will go with DL Mattila. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:53, 6 December 2017 (EST)

Dark & Bitter

I have your addition of Dark & Bitter on hold. Your proposed note states "Mixed genres, the majority of stories falling into speculative fiction." Have you only listed the genre stories? In a mixed genre anthology, we don't include the non-genre stories (except for authors above the threshold which doesn't seem to apply here). Also, you note that the editor is not credited and you obtained that from the publisher. As we credit per the pub, it should be entered as uncredited and then varianted to the editor's name. Let me know about the stories and I will make the appropriate changes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:02, 29 December 2017 (EST)

I wondered about mixed genres. The stories with no apparent speculative element are: #1 "The Grind", #6 "Passing", #8 "Over-Extraction". #5 "Victory" is bleak horror which would cause some to call it spec, but contains no supernatural element; so I am unsure how to categorize it. Thank you for taking care of it. Hkauderer 14:20, 29 December 2017 (EST)
Updated. I left "Victory" in, but included a note. Please updates the notes as you see fit. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:56, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Probable Variants

You have verified the pubs containing both of the stories from the following three sets:

Would you please check if these are the same & variant as appropriate? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:13, 2 January 2018 (EST)

In each case it is the same poem with a variant title. Thanks. Hkauderer 17:29, 2 January 2018 (EST)
They have been varianted. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:12, 2 January 2018 (EST)

September 2012 issue of Dreams & Nightmares

I've reverted your edits to the September 2012 issue of Dreams & Nightmares. If you check this help page, under the bullet on "Missing or variant dates", you'll note that the standard is that " The date is always preferable, even if the magazine typically gives the issue number ...". I've seen other editors using different standards, but until it has been discussed and agreed to on Rules and standards discussions page, I think we need to keep this as the documented standard. Also, it is generally expected that before a change of this nature is done on a publication that has been verified, you should contact that verifiers who are active unless they have posted a note stating they don't wish to be notified. I do have a note for a separate notification page for minor edits. However, changing a title of a publication is significant enough that you really should have contacted me before the edit. I've also reverted the name change of the illustration on page 3. I generally try to keep disambiguation notices as short as possible. I also don't see this so much as an advertisement, but rather showing a book cover that is mentioned in the essay on the same page. If it truly were an ad, we shouldn't include the illustration at all. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:30, 2 January 2018 (EST)

Noted. Hkauderer 08:45, 3 January 2018 (EST)

Speculative 66, Issue 13

I accepted your addition Speculative 66, Issue 13, but changed the date from "2018-10-06" to "2017-10-06" based on the issue number. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:47, 17 February 2018 (EST)

Thank you. Good catch. Hkauderer 09:59, 17 February 2018 (EST)

Dan Smith

Hi, a couple of things about "Dan Smith":

First, if there's already an author spelled the same way, the submission of a new title with that author credited gets matched up to that, independent of case and some diacriticals. So where we have a "Dan Smith", even if you enter "dan smith", it'll end up "Dan Smith". There's currently no way around that. You could put the note about lower case everywhere in the publication's notes, if you want.

Second, our Dan Smith entry is not likely to be the dan smith in Star*Line. I found we have Dan Smith (poet), so I changed those two titles to use that. I did not have time to verify if he's really that same poet or another one, so you may want to see if you can verify that somehow. --MartyD 15:46, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Thank you for unscrambling that. It usually takes a few weeks (or more) to find out, but I have managed to disambiguate a few before, and will hope to find out more in this case. Hkauderer 16:15, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Page Numbers & Sorting

When using page numbers to sort entries on the same page, they should be entered as "PAGE NUMBER|SORT ORDER" (example "31|31.1" and "31|31.2"). The first value is the displayed value which should be the actual page number and the second value is used for sorting so that 31.1 will come after 30, but before 31.2. See Template:PubContentFields:Page. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:07, 19 February 2018 (EST)

Thank you! I will follow that protocol going forward. Hkauderer 13:36, 19 February 2018 (EST)

The 2015 Rhysling Anthology: The Best Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Poetry of 2014


You have the type of Marvel Word Problems set as Serial. Was that on purpose or was it a mistake? Thanks! Annie 15:15, 16 March 2018 (EDT)

That was my error, thanks for catching it. Edit submitted. I have been hesitant to enter all the Rhysling Anthologies I own, as the process is exhausting. But, of course, I'd love for them to be in ISFDb. So I have been very slow to do it. I keep hoping someone with younger eyes will jump on them. Thanks again.Hkauderer 10:43, 25 March 2018 (EDT)

W. Gregory Stewart vs W. Gregory Stewa

Hi, your verified copy of Dreams & Nightmares, #33 contains Cocooning by W. Gregory Stewa. Both Locus and the FictionMags Index have it as by W. Gregory Stewart. Could you please check?--Dirk P Broer 08:11, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

Definitely 'Stewart' on page and in ToC. Edit submitted. Thanks for catching that.Hkauderer 10:46, 25 March 2018 (EDT)

She Dreams of Tigers, or Remembers

Would you mind double checking the author of "She Dreams of Tigers, or Remembers" on page 48 of The Distance Between Insanity and Genius. You have the poet as "Jen Giacalone". That poem has been nominated for a Rhysling, but the nomination list has the poet as "Jennifer D’Aubergny". Given the discrepancy, I'd just like to ensure that we have the correct name listed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:13, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

On page and in the "Author/Artist Index" the poem "She Dreams of Tigers or Remembers" is credited to Jen Giacalone. Further, the name Jennifer D'Aubergny does not appear in the index. Sounds as if it could be an error, or a pseudonym revealed, or a name change possibly due to marriage. In any event, the book definitely lists Giacalone.Hkauderer 08:30, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

Metastable Systems

Hello, I did all the merges in the newly added Metastable Systems that I could see of previously published poems in this publication but you may want to check for others that did not show up because of spelling for example. You also added the following 3 items (I added the disambiguation on the third):

  • 139 • Acknowledgments (Metastable Systems) • essay by David C. Kopaska-Merkel
  • 141 • About the Author (Metastable Systems) • essay by David C. Kopaska-Merkel
  • 142 • Other Books by the Author (Metastable Systems) • essay by uncredited

These usually do not get added to the Contents and get noted in the Notes only - unless it is a substantial essay and not the usual generic thing. Can you confirm that these are indeed long and substantial enough to stand on their own? Annie

They are not long, and could easily be included in the notes instead of receiving their own entries. I was planning to look for additional merges in the morning with calmer weather and fresh coffee. Thanks. Hkauderer 19:45, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
Have a good night and hopefully calmed weather then. Fresh coffee is always a good thing. Annie 19:51, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

FrostFire Worlds update

I just added the length "short story" to all the stories in the latest FrostFire Worlds-- correct me if that isn't right. --Vasha 19:40, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

That is correct. Hkauderer 09:35, 21 May 2018 (EDT)

Star*Line, Winter 2016

Questions about the poems on pages 42-43 of Star*Line, Winter 2016. 1. The name of the author Campo Ricardo Burgos Lopez is normally spelled "López;" is the diacritic actually missing in Star*Line? 2. Are the two poems by that author one in Spanish, one in English? They sound like they would be translations of each other. And if the first one is in Spanish, the title ought to be written "El superhéroe se ha ahorcado" (as when it was reprinted in the webzine Axxón). Thanks for checking that. --Vasha 00:55, 26 May 2018 (EDT)

There is an accent over the o in Lopex, and the e in "El superheroe". At the time I entered these magazines I did not yet know the trick of copying and pasting special symbols into the wiki text field. Thank you for improving this. The translator was Fred W. Bergmann. Hkauderer 10:53, 28 May 2018 (EDT)
Changes have now been submitted.Hkauderer 12:57, 28 May 2018 (EDT)
Thanks. I made further corrections to the Spanish version (changed the language, and put it in sentece case which is standard for Spanish titles). Did you ask a moderator to change the author's name? I did, so presumably someone will respond to one or both of us. --Vasha 16:08, 28 May 2018 (EDT)
Well, if you insist on an answer :) Name changed. Annie 16:39, 28 May 2018 (EDT)

Scifaikuest typo

I think you have a typo in this issue of Scifaikuest, page 49. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 08:30, 21 June 2018 (EDT)

Correction submitted. Thanks for the catch.Hkauderer 11:06, 22 June 2018 (EDT)
Also, I saw that a few of the issues of Scifaikuest which you verified didn't have the editorial assigned to the series "Editorial (Scifaikuest)" (or didn't have "My Favorite Poem" in its series), so I fixed that. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 20:46, 23 June 2018 (EDT)
Thank you.Hkauderer 14:07, 3 July 2018 (EDT)

typo? in The 2015 Rhysling Anthology

In The 2015 Rhysling Anthology, on page 71, should the title be "And I'll Dance with You Yet, My Darling?" --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 00:01, 31 July 2018 (EDT)

Yes, thanks for the catch. Edit now submitted. Hkauderer 12:56, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

Illumen, Spring 2017

A couple of fixes to Illumen, Spring 2017: corrected capitalization of "A Rousing Song: The Poetics (Make-Up) Of Cosmic Horror And Escapist Science Fiction" and changed "Seamstress Notes by Amy Kotthaus" to "Seamstress Notes" by Amy Kotthaus. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 17:31, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Thank you. Hkauderer 12:56, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

WC/W. C./W C Roberts

We are currently going through an awkward phase of trying to deal with authors who punctuate or capitalize their names in nonstandard ways—you might've seen the multiple R&S discussions and I know I've asked you to check spellings in publications. Right now it seems we are (mostly) entering them with standard spelling and making notes about the differences. The one I wanted to let you know about is WC Roberts. He is in the database as both WC and W. C. I really don't want to change all the WCs to W. C.s because there are over 100 of them! versus 3 as W. C. However, in Scifaikuest, August 2017 you recorded that it is printed "W C Roberts" and I think that is one variant spelling too many so I changed it to "W. C. Roberts" but made a note in the publication. Is that OK with you? --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 15:12, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

That is fine. I have had some gnashings over author name punctuation, not based on author choice, but in the fact that I am often left to interpret a font and its spacing. Honestly, a lot of publications I have both print and PDF and I find myself making the PDF huge and still not sure whether there is a space, and such. WC is fine. Thanks for checking. Hkauderer 21:13, 25 August 2018 (EDT)

Star*Line, Oct-Dec 2012

In Star*Line 35.4, Oct-Dec 2012, you have the author of "Community Pool Rules" (p. 8) listed as "David A Dickson." On their website they give "David A. Dickinson." Could you look again just to make sure which it is? Thanks for checking ... --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 12:07, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for the catch. Edit submitted. Hkauderer 21:15, 25 August 2018 (EDT)


Please double check the ISBN for Entanglement. A 13-digit ISBN should start with 978 or 979. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:23, 18 May 2019 (EDT)

Edit submitted. Thanks for the info. That was a difficult ISBN to locate. The incorrect one is in the bar code box on the back of the book.Hkauderer

Review of 'Dark Matters: New Sci-Fi Poems' by Russell Jones

Is there a reason you entered Review of 'Dark Matters: New Sci-Fi Poems' by Russell Jones as as essay and not a review? The title sounds like a genre publication. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:27, 18 May 2019 (EDT)

I was taught to enter reviews of books that don't have their own entries as essays. I'm happy to change if that is no longer preferred.Hkauderer
Reviews should only be entered as essays if they are for non-genre books that don't belong in the database. If they are for a genre book and the book is not in the database, the solution is to add the book. I have added the book and converted the essay to a review. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:34, 18 May 2019 (EDT)
Noted. Thanks.Hkauderer

Not One of Us

Hi Hkauderer, as a verifier of Not One of Us I'd appreciate your thoughts on this post. Thanks. PeteYoung 08:14, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

Hi Pete, I have always considered Not One of Us as a quarto magazine. It has always acted like one, paid like one, etc.Hkauderer 00:56, 28 December 2019 (EST)

Could it be a typo?

Hello, I stumbled upon this title Old Stars Remembered by John Soared which you've PV'd. Could that actually by a typo, and should the author be John Soares instead? Thanks for checking! MagicUnk 13:08, 14 January 2020 (EST)

Currently my copies of Starsong are in storage. I have made a note on my to-do list, and hopefully in four months when those copies come out of storage I will check this. Thanks. Hkauderer 20:03, 30 January 2020 (EST)

got a cover!

Dreams and Nightmares #110 I got a cover image! Susan O'Fearna 22:23, 24 March 2020 (EDT)

Noted, thanks. Hkauderer 11:41, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

A Diety Goes Too Far

In Star*Line, Winter 2019, is the spelling of "A Diety Goes Too Far" (page 5) correct? Or should it be "Deity"? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:28, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

That is a typo on my part. A correcting edit has been submitted. Thanks for catching it.Hkauderer 19:35, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, July-August 2020

There is a review in Your pv magazine that seems to have one wrong autor Adam Yolen, since the reviewed pub The Last Tsar's Dragons has the author Adam Stemple. Can You confirm? --Zapp 15:32, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

An edit has been submitted. The review does NOT identify Adam's last name. It refers to him as Jane Yolen's son Adam. I should have looked that up to see if his last name was the same. Thank you for finding this.Hkauderer 09:12, 26 July 2020 (EDT)

Random Planets: A Collection of Minimalist Brush-Strokes

Thanks for submitting Random Planets: A Collection of Minimalist Brush-Strokes and sorry about the delay in processing!

After approving the submission, I:

  • set up variant titles for known pseudonyms
  • merged "Ouroboros" with its pre-existing version
  • added the URL of the cover hosted by
  • moved the bibliographically important parts of the "Note to Moderator" field to the regular "Publication Note" field
  • regularized the cases of the anthology's subtitle and of the introductory essay

When you have a moment, could you please take a quick look to make sure that everything appears to be OK? Also, I have a few questions about the Contents section:

Thanks again! Ahasuerus 19:12, 27 July 2020 (EDT)

Thanks for taking care of this. As an English professor I always want to regularize titles and authors. But I know there are differing opinions here and I try to default to what's on the page. "Trust the moderator"is a good mantra for me.
  • I do not know if these are alternate names for Blackwell and Mulroy.
  • "the Grand Library" is capitalized that way on the page.
Thanks. Hkauderer 00:35, 28 July 2020 (EDT)
Sounds good, thanks! Ahasuerus 00:41, 28 July 2020 (EDT)

A Rose Waits

Dreams & Nightmares, #113 and Dreams & Nightmares, #114 both contain "A Rose Waits" by Adele Gardner. Are these the same poem? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:15, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

They are the same poem word for word, though with different page breaks. There is no explanation of the reprinting in the editorial. Hkauderer 09:47, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Thanks! I have merged them and added a title note to avoid future confusion. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:59, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Guitar Bot

In Star*Line, Spring 2020, is there any information on the artist for Guitar Bot? We currently have David Shultz as an alternate name for David F. Shultz. However, that entry has no other art work so am wondering if this is a new person. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:15, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

No, there is no additional information. The illustration is not signed. Hkauderer 11:58, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Okay, I separated the two. Since the author has no prior drawings, seems more likely it is a different person. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:50, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Influence of the Moon

In Influence of the Moon, does Tsuki Ga; The Moon, It's Beautiful Tonight, Isn't It? (page 230) have a semicolon as listed or is that a typo for a colon? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:17, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

It is a semicolon. I should have noted the unusual punctuation. And after the semicolon, "The" is the only word with a capital first letter though I understand in most places the capitalization will be regularized. Hkauderer 09:59, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
Thanks. Added a title note to avoid future confusion. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:01, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

Untimely Frost: Poetry Unthawed

I added an image URL to Your pv pub. Hope it is the right one. --Zapp 14:33, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

That is the correct cover image, thank you. Hkauderer 12:30, 11 August 2020 (EDT)

Star*Line, Spring 2020

In Your pv magazine there is a poem called "t)here". In cleanup reports it is to find in 'Titles with mismatched parentheses'. Can You confirm that title writing or is it a typewriting error missing a '(' ? It would be great if You put a short comment in notes. Thank You. --Zapp 13:19, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

The correct title is "t)here" as entered. I should have noted that oddity. Hkauderer 12:30, 11 August 2020 (EDT)
I did. --Zapp 16:21, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, July-August 2020

I recently, four months late got my copy of the July-August issue. I'll add a cover image if you want. Do you want me to continue to do the Asimov's? I have the September-October issue right here. Late, again. MLB 17:45, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

Added the cover image and one buried review in Silverberg's column. MLB 15:18, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Four Possible Typos

Here are four possible database typos:

Would you mind checking and adding notes if original to publications? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:33, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

All confirmed as my typos. Corrections submitted. Thank you for correcting me. Hkauderer 19:08, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

Duplicate titles in the same magazine

The DB is not set for allowing the same text to be added twice to the same book with the same title so we need to change the name of one of the entries and then variant it up. See what I did here. Let me know if you have any questions and/or concerns. :) Annie 23:25, 17 January 2021 (EST)

That looks simple enough. Thanks, I'll follow that model going forward.Hkauderer

W. H. Blackwell

So what is the chance that W. H. Blackwell is actually Will H. Blackwell, Jr.? Anything that proves or disproves that in your verified? Thanks! Annie 23:30, 17 January 2021 (EST)

I believe it is well implied that W. H. Blackwell is Will H. Blackwell, Jr. But I haven't confirmed it yet. At some point I should make a list of four or five such cases and send a query to the editor. Hkauderer

Darkverse: The Shadow Hours

I approved your submission of Darkverse: The Shadow Hours, corrected "Teh" to "The" in the title and added the ASIN. In the future, when you want to add the ASIN, go down to "External IDs" on the entry form, click on the down arrow and a list of possible external ids will appear. ASIN is first in the list. Click on it, then enter the value of the ASIN in the blank. You can add a whole list of different external ids as needed. Bob 19:41, 19 January 2021 (EST)

Thank you!Hkauderer

Dreams & Nightmares, #117

Hello! We appreciate your entry, but I have to hold your submission, because you add no source for your data. For each entry it is requested to cite the source as well. Regards Rudolf Rudam 11:53, 24 June 2021 (EDT)

I own the issue. I am also hoping to correct the spelling of Anne Carly Abad's name in the issueHkauderer
Hello! Thanks for the info. I'll immediately approve your submission. It would be helpful for the moderator, if you briefly mention in the note to the Moderator that you are the owner of the publication. Furthermore you can also mark the field I own this publication. Now you can correct the spelling. Thanks for your patience. Regards Rudolf Rudam 03:57, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
Thanks, I usually mark the "I own this publication field." It was just an error on my part. I appreciate that you caught it. Hkauderer

Star*Line, Winter 2019

I imported the missing content title loose change into Star*Line, Winter 2019. John Scifibones 10:14, 28 June 2021 (EDT)

Thank you. Hkauderer

Random Planets: A Collection of Minimalist Brush-Strokes

I corrected the spelling of "stargazing on Olymplus Mons" to "stargazing on Olympus Mons" in the publication Random Planets: A Collection of Minimalist Brush-Strokes. If it really was spelled incorrectly, let me know and I will restore the old title and put an explanation in the notes. Thanks John Scifibones 11:58, 28 June 2021 (EDT)

The Poet's Haven Author Series

The ISFDB differentiates publisher series (publisher level series like Ballantine Adult Fantasy) from title series (universe or groupings of books independent of publisher like Dune Universe). The Poet's Haven Author Series would be a publisher series. We currently had it entered as a mix of the two. I have updated the records so they are all publisher series now. A publisher series shows up under the publisher's page (see here). Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

Who? (Authors' Bios Scifaikuest, February 2021)

I had to reject this edit. Scifaikuest is a magazine series and only the magazines should be added to it. If you want to group the Scifaikuest author bios together, you would need to create a new series ("Authors' Bios Scifaikuest" or perhaps "Scifaikuest Bios") and apply it to all these. Similar to the Editorial (Scifaikuest) series (though that is missing from newer issues and should be added). -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:43, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

I'm just trying to get the issue to show up in the issue grid. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Hkauderer
Ah, I misunderstood the intent. In that case, you needed to add it to the Editor record (this one) instead. I have taken care of that. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:59, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

Several Merges

I'm holding several merges ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], and [8]) that would change one of the titles. Should these be variants instead? Or all of the ones being changed database errors? We credit as per the pub and if the these have been published with different titles, they should be varianted instead of merged. Let me know and I will handle appropriately. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:47, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

In most cases they are interpretations of poems without titles. The ToC of Dwarf Stars 2019 abbreviated untitled poems' first lines in a way slightly different way than is usual in the field. If that's worth making it a variant, then it should be so. Hkauderer
That's a bit non-standard. Technically, they should be entered as "untitled", but that is unwieldly. I have gone ahead and accepted the merges. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:02, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

Scifaikuest, August 2020

I know you aren't the only person who worked on this issue. I'm asking you because you were the last. "Centauri" is shown twice. Are there two versions, or an accidental duplication? I happened to notice when looking at Nick Hoffman. Rather than assume an error, thought I would ask. John Scifibones 09:47, 13 July 2021 (EDT)

Every issue of Scifaikuest includes a reprint of one of the poems from the issue. I will label them reprint in the future.Hkauderer

The Ambassador Takes One for the Team: Poems of Loss, Alienation, and Hope

Added cover John Scifibones 16:06, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

The 2015 Rhysling Anthology: The Best Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Poetry of 2014

When you have a free moment, could you please check your verified copy of The 2015 Rhysling Anthology: The Best Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Poetry of 2014 to see if the title of the poem "Ode to Yon Gliesan Orbs, or No?" is spelled that way? The reason I am asking is that this author has a similarly titled poem, "Ode to Yon Glizan Orbs, or No?", in Tales of the Talisman, Volume 9, Issue 4. TIA! Ahasuerus 12:00, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Will you also check "Eventually You Become Immune"? The spelling in the original publication is Eventually, You Become Immune, found in Jamais Vu, #1, Winter 2014. John Scifibones 16:02, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

"Ode to Yon Gliesan Orbs, or No?" is spelled that way on the ToC and on page.
"Eventually, You Become Immune" has a comma on the ToC and on page. Hkauderer

Startling Stories, 2021 Issue

I have converted Startling Stories, 2021 Issue from an anthology to a magazine. While only planned as annual issues, this is being published as a continuation of the 1960s magazine. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:17, 7 August 2021 (EDT)

Editorial (Scifaikuest) Series

There is an essay series for the Scifaikuest editorials. Some of the issues you entered did not take advantage of this. I added the series to the relevant titles. John Scifibones 11:38, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Same for the My Favorite Poem. I took care of these as well John Scifibones 20:56, 17 August 2021 (EDT)


Adding covers to some of your verified issues. John Scifibones 11:01, 13 September 2021 (EDT)

Dreams & Nightmares Magazine

Since you have verified many of the issues, I'm alerting you to the changes I am submitting.

  • Adding the missing issues
  • Renaming to comply with current standards
  • Reviewing for errors
  • Adding covers

If I have to make any other changes to one of your verifications, I will add them below: John Scifibones 09:51, 18 September 2021 (EDT)

Dreams & Nightmares, #117 is actually the January 2021 issue
Looks like they changed from octavo to digest in 2008, you show octavo in most, not all , can you confirm?
These are 8.5 X 11 inch sheets of paper turned sideways, folded, and center stapled. I call that octavo. Others may call it something else. Hkauderer

Scifaikuest, August 2019

In your Primary verified publication Scifaikuest, August 2019, you show the title "spaceship lands" by Dylan Mabe twice.

  1. Is the same poem repeated?
  2. Is it a different poem with the same name?

I'll assume 2 and disambiguate. If this is incorrect, remove the disambiguation and add notes. Thanks John Scifibones 13:53, 27 October 2021 (EDT)

    1. The same is poem repeated. This happens once per issue in each issue of Scifaikuest, both print and online.Hkauderer
Chiming in (A bit late but did not see this earlier) - in such cases we disambiguate the second one and variant it to the first -- or alternatively you just list it once and add a note explaining where it is also repeated. The software does not allow to have the same title twice in the same publication - and we cannot have same-named variants (or it gets messy) and we cannot NOT connect the same text on the author's page. So add a [2] on the second one and variant to the other (and I'd still add notes usually). I did the rename and variant here. Annie 18:51, 7 March 2022 (EST)


I added the cover image for your verified pub Care. John Scifibones 18:07, 7 March 2022 (EST)

Also added the date to the title as per magazine standandards John Scifibones 16:30, 9 March 2022 (EST)

While I agree this is a magazine, I changed it to an anthology following this conversation. Here is the resulting publication. I hope you'll agree this was the best solution. John Scifibones 22:21, 9 March 2022 (EST)

The 2005 Rhysling Anthology

Added page numbers and a better cover image to your verified pub The 2005 Rhysling Anthology . John Scifibones 10:34, 13 April 2022 (EDT)

Dreams and Nightmares;; I replaced thumbnails with bigger images. --Username 12:14, 26 May 2022 (EDT)

Star*Line, May-June 1990

I'm holding these two submissions [9] & [10] which would remove the dedication from these two tiles in Star*Line, May-June 1990. Should the changes be accepted or rejected.? Thanks, John Scifibones 11:31, 3 July 2022 (EDT)

I have accepted the edits, let me know if you disagree. John Scifibones 10:30, 15 August 2022 (EDT)

Coming Buried Or Not!; I fixed Alison Faye to Alyson. --Username 09:42, 11 July 2022 (EDT)

2015 R. A.; I added link and missing comma after "Fantasy" in title, also fixed page count to 158. --Username (talk) 15:44, 14 July 2023 (EDT)