User talk:Gweeks

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I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 18:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

"Quest for the Golden Ape"

RE: The change from Randall Garrett to Paul W. Fairman for "Quest of the Golden Ape" I just had a discussion with Robert Silverberg over this title. I'll forward you the emails if you want. I still have to get the PG catalog fixed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gweeks (talk • contribs) .

If you can provide us with the details here, we can decide whether there's substantial proof that Lesser wrote the story with Fairman instead of Garrett. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a set of emails with Robert Silverberg. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theworldsofrobertsilverberg/message/6518 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gweeks (talk • contribs) .

I'll accept the submission and add notes to the title record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Silverberg makes an incorrect statement at one point in the discussion "Check out the Jan 57 AMAZING STORIES, where the story, a three-part serial, is tagged with Lesser's pseudonym, no indication of a second author." That's not true. That issue credits Chase and Jorgensen. Mhhutchins 18:16, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

And then he corrects himself in a later email.Gweeks 18:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't in the link that you posted here, but I was able to figure it with some difficulty. (It's in this message.) I'm not familiar with how the threading and display of messages on a newsgroup work so it's how to determine the order in which they were posted. Thanks for the contribution. Mhhutchins 18:35, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

An Earth Gone Mad

I'm holding this submission. One is a novel and one is a novella. So either one of two things:

1. The novella was expanded into the novel for the book publication. This frequently happens. In such cases, we don't variant the two works together. We leave them separate and title notes (with links) explaining the relatuionship.
2. They are the same work and one of our title types is wrong.

Do you know which case this is? Ideally, if you can compare the whole works that would great. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:22, 14 April 2021 (EDT)

JLaTondre asked me to compare both versions. While the magazine story starts the same as the novel. I checked the starts of the next several chapters and they all differ. Also, the book has 20 chapters as opposed to 16 in the magazine. I will note that the copyright page notes s separate copyright of the magazine version of 1952. However, it does not specify the other title or Startling Stories. I think we have to conclude that the novel is a significant expansion of the novella. Hope this helps. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 18:25, 14 April 2021 (EDT)

Thanks. I have rejected the variant and instead added title notes (with links) explaining the expansion of the novella into the novel. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:12, 14 April 2021 (EDT)