User talk:Gisbystreet

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Welcome!

Hello, Gisbystreet, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Stonecreek 02:38, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

The Blue World

Hello, I've rejected your submission as the credit to Di Fate seems dubious. There is probably a confusion with the latter (1977) cover for the same novel that is attested. The other bibliographies of Vance do not support this credit nor does Weinberg's dictionnary of artists. Note that a 1966 publication date would be very early in Di Fate 's career (this will predate his first known sf work by more that three years). Hauck 04:02, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

You're the boss! Yes thought it was unlike his style but there was the attribution in what I thought was the "definitive" Vance bibliography. Perhaps a cut and paste mistake? I'll put a stickie on the page quoting your doubts! Gisbystreet 21:37, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

A Scent of New-Mown Hay

Hello,

I approved the edit for your verified A Scent of New-Mown Hay but did a few changes after that:

  • Moved the OCLC number in the new External fields. I suspect that the OCLC number was already there when you verified the work so when you see one of those, can you please remove it from the notes and instead use the External ID fields under the Notes Field. We are in the progress of slowly migrating all the old notes into the new fields and any help is appreciated.
  • We do not need a "br" tag at the start of each line anymore. I cleaned all but the first one (the first one is needed if you do not want the first comment line to be on the same line as the label of the field).

Annie 13:50, 23 March 2018 (EDT)


Thanks Annie - will watch for that. Gisbystreet 21:32, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

The Forever War

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as your book is very likely this one. It's best that you take the PV spot and update this publication instead of probably having two 1st 1976 Futura prinings. Usually, it's best to "take over" an unverified publication that nearly matches yours as the data given is sometimes sketchy or downright false. Hauck 08:10, 24 March 2018 (EDT)

Without reply, I've rejected the submission. Hauck 03:43, 27 March 2018 (EDT)

Thanks. Missed that one somehow so thought I had to start from scratch. Let me dig it out and double check again. Gisbystreet 18:35, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

Swords Against Death

Hello,

When adding titles like "Introduction", "Author's Introduction" and other similar common titles, you should add the name of the publication in brackets after the name. This way you do not end up with 20 essays on the author page with the name "Introduction" :) I've done this in Swords Against Death. Thanks for adding the missing titles in it. Annie 17:27, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for the tip. I am still getting used to this interface alas. I believe a couple of these were previously published so had planned to go double check, but I was filling out the title page for this book so wasn't sure what comes first. I am now guessing I should have found the "intro" in the older book, and then added a new link for the new edition, and then edited in the page number in the new book? I'll get it eventually... Gisbystreet 18:34, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
If it was previously published you can go one of two ways:
  • Add it and when approved, it can be merged or varianted into the original title
  • Import from the older title
Please note that if they were published under different names or if both are called Introduction but in different books, they need to be varianted and not merged. :) Do not hesitate to ask when you have questions - we all started at some point and most people here will be very happy to answer any questions. Annie 18:48, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

Your note to the moderator

Hello, it seems those 'variants' don't qualify as publications on their own: they are likely only redestributed older copies. (Please use the help desk for such questions: it's what it was made for, and such questions might get lost otherwise). Thanks, Stonecreek 00:00, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Cautionary Tales

What is the source for the cover artist credit you are adding? As you didn't verify the publication, I'm assuming it is not from the publication. When secondary sources are used, they should be credited in the publication notes field. Let me know here and I'll update the record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:12, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

Apologies, went to upload the cover image but got size rejected and didn't get back to it (is there a max file size?) - so yes will very the pub when I get back in. Artist name on back flap of jacket. - David
No problem. Approved. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:50, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

You gave the page number for the first essay as "(xi)". If this was meant as an unnumbered page, unnumbered pages are entered with brackets (ex "[xi]"). However, since it is part of a numbered range (the next essay is entered as ix), we simply record the derived numbered vs. marking it as unnumbered. One of our little oddities. See Template:PubContentFields:Page for details. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

well, publishing seems to have lots of personal editiorial choices after all, so appropriate for this group to have its own style guide. I'll get it eventually.

Since we're talking small details, this edition does not list "A word of caution" in the toc nor any of the story afterwords, presumably because they are less than a page. The Tiptree intro does not have a page number on it (nor do any of the stories, presumably because it would clutter the page) but it carries over onto page x and is listed in the toc as page ix. There is no xi printed on "A Word of Caution" (or a xii on the back for that matter).

Hello! Regarding the page numeration, please take a look into the help section (especially the second bullet point on Roman numerals).
Regarding contents: we don't use the table of contents, but refer to the body of a publication: quite often there are items that are erroneously spelled, or not included at all there. To cite: Caution: Do not use the table of contents to determine the page numbers of a publication's contents. Enter content page data by going through the publication and entering the numbers which are printed on the pages on which contents begin. Thanks, Stonecreek 05:04, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Image Uploading

Cover image uploading is a two step process. Once you have uploaded a cover to the wiki, you need to click on the image (so you get just the image), copy that URL, and then edit the publication to add the URL to the publication. So for Image:LRDVLNTNSD1980.jpg, you need to enter this URL, in Lord Valentine's Castle. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:00, 25 April 2019 (EDT)

Profiles of the Future

Hi, in your submission you state "with the first trade edition by Gollancz priced at 21s (21/) it seems likely the "Scientific Book Club" was issued at a lower price, after the trade publication." Yet you give the price for this hardcover as 25/, which is actually 4 shilling higher.--Dirk P Broer 05:21, 2 June 2019 (EDT)

And the Gollancz editions actually are hardcovers too, not trade paperback editions.--Dirk P Broer 07:49, 2 June 2019 (EDT)
To top it off: Shouldn't it be 21s 0p on the inside cover (21 Shilling, 0 pence)?--Dirk P Broer 07:51, 2 June 2019 (EDT)

The Edge of Worlds submission

Hi. I have your The Edge of Worlds submission on hold. I see your note to the moderator in it, but the submission does not change anything. If you're willing, you should do two things:

1. Fix the cover art credit.

When publication contains a "title" (and we consider artwork credits to be contained titles) and that title is shared by more than one publication, you cannot edit it directly.

If the same change needs to be made everywhere that contained title appears, you have to follow the link to the title from the View Pub screen (in this case, go here) and make the changes there. I can see this credit is only used in other unverified editions of the same book from the same publisher, so I would assume the typo has simply been propagated from one edition's records to the others. In fact, Amazon Look Inside shows for the ebook edition's copyright page the same spelling you cite. Doing this "change it everywhere" fix looks appropriate.

You don't need to worry about this, but for future reference: If you wanted to change it for only one publication (say the misspelling was used in some editions but then was corrected in others), you first have to make the publication have its own, independent version of the shared title. That's a little tricky, not obvious, to say the least. To do that, you still go to the contained title's page, where you see all of the publications containing it. You use the Unmerge Titles editing option, and in the screen that comes up, you check the box for the publication that needs to be different from the others and submit. After that is approved, the publication will have its own, independent version of the title, which can then be edited as appropriate.

2. Update the publication notes

I see you have made yourself primary verifier, which is perfect. But the publication's notes still claim the data comes from Amazon and Locus. You should delete that note, since now the information comes directly from your copy of the book. If there is anything in the record that is not in the book, you can leave the data and adjust the note to state which information comes from the non-book source. For example, Look Inside shows only a 2016 copyright and no statement of publication date. If your hardcover did the same, you might make the note read: "Copyright © 2016 by Martha Wells, but no publication date. Publication date from Amazon as of 2020-09-06."

You can try your hand at #1, or I can do it for you. It's safe to try -- the submission will be moderated. Let me know if you rather I do it. Only you can do #2, since you're the only one who knows what is in the book vs. not. If you need any help, though, just ask.

Thanks, --MartyD 07:51, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

Hi. I processed your submission and fixed up #1. Please do make the changes I suggested in #2. You can click here to get directly into the editing screen. Thanks. --MartyD 11:23, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

The Wild Road

Cover image uploading is a two step process. Once you have uploaded a cover to the wiki, you need to click on the image (so you get just the image), copy that URL, and then edit the publication to add the URL to the publication. So for Image:THWLDRDMVG1997.jpg, you needed to enter this URL, in Image URL field of The Wild Road. I have taken care of this one. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:21, 6 December 2020 (EST)

The Ogre Downstairs

As with the above, I have added your scanned image for The Ogre Downstairs to the pub. However, in this case, you did not use the "Upload cover scan" option from the publication page. Please always use that as it will create the image under the correct title and add the license template. I have left this one where it is and manually added the template, but it is always best to use the proper upload option. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:27, 6 December 2020 (EST)

The Midnight Bargain

As the date is not printed in the book, it either needs to be sourced from Amazon (or the publisher site or somewhere else) or the pub date needs to be changed to match the book (aka 2020-10-00). As it is a new book and the Amazon date is correct, we prefer that (older books present bigger logistical challenges). :) So I added the note to your verified. Let me know if you have any questions/concerns. Annie 15:43, 8 February 2021 (EST)

The Ministry for the Future

Hi, as the help for entering the date of publications explicitly says to use the publication date stated within a book [For books, to identify the publication date, try to find a statement (often on the verso of the title page) that says something like "Published in June 2001"], I'll change the date to 2020-10-00 (from 2020-10-06, the day stated with Amazon, which was likely enteresd upon the publication in the first place). Christian Stonecreek 13:29, 12 January 2022 (EST)

Stonecreek, please take this to the Moderator board if you disagree. Date restored. The note of the verifier restored. Publisher site confirming the date added and note added to that effect. Gisbystreet, apologies again for the multiple updates - this should have been discussed before anyone started changing your data. The publication now looks exactly as it did look like before Stonecreek started changing based on his personal interpretation of the rules (plus a link to the publisher site which confirms Amazon's date). I will post back before any additional change are being made. Annie 15:14, 12 January 2022 (EST)

Jack Finney / Time and Again

I am editing and PVing Jack Finney / Time and Again and will add pub notes and interiorart and footnote. Teallach (talk) 17:27, 25 September 2023 (EDT)

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