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Welcome!

Hello, Eric J. Guignard, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 17:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Author image

Author images should not be posted on the Bio page because it duplicates the image on the author's database summary page. I will attempt again to remove it from this page. Please do not add it back. I've also deleted the page you created using the Bibliographic Comments links on the author's database summary page. That page should not be a duplicate of the Bio page, but is used to add bibliographic information that is not easily handled by the database records. It can also be used for discussions of a bibliographic nature about the author's publications. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:41, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Dark Tales of Lost Civilizations

I had to reject your submission to add two formats into the publication format field of this record. There can only be one format per record. Here is a list of acceptable formats. Further research has shown that this is a trade paperback and should be entered as "tp". I will clone this record to create a separate one for the ebook. Mhhutchins 21:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I've deleted the bibliographic comments page you created for this record. If you have the book in hand, that should be noted at the time of the submission to create the record or update an existing one. After the submission has been accepted do a Primary Verification of the record. The instructions to do that are linked in the Welcome section above. Mhhutchins 22:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

After Death

The submission adding this publication to the database was accepted (a second attempt was rejected, please wait for a moderator to handle it before making a duplicate submission). Several changes will have to be made. Please keep these in mind when making future submissions. Also take some time to read the instructions on how to enter publications in the database.

  1. Format field was changed to "tp" (see the previous message). Each format requires a separate record (cloning an existing one is the best way to do this).
  2. The ISBN-13 as given in the Amazon listing was added to the record.
  3. Title was changed to After Death . . . (note the spaces between the periods of the ellipsis, the ISFDB standard)

I could find no record of an ebook edition on Amazon. Once it is published, you can clone the present record and make the appropriate changes (the format would be "ebook").

I also added the source of the data. If you have the book in hand, let the moderator know this in the "Note to Moderator" field of the submission. If you're working from a secondary source, you must give the source for your data in the "Note" field of the submission. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mhhutchins, Thank you for your corrections. Per your request, I do have: "book in hand" for reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eric J. Guignard (talk • contribs) .
When adding a response to a message, you should use a colon to indent it from the previous one. This makes it easier to read the response and to follow the discussion. Also, you must end each post by adding four tildes (~~~~) which will sign and date the message. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm slowly working my way through this site and learning it. I appreciate your e-mail and I e-mailed a response back. When I first entered the anthology book, "AFTER DEATH . . ." into the database, there was a section for "Reviews". I tried to enter one, but it may not have been done correctly. I no longer even see that as an option. Is that something I am able to change?Eric J. Guignard 23:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Reviews are not entered into the publication record of the work being reviewed. You have to create a publication record for the publication which contains the review. For example, if the work is reviewed in Asimov's SF, then there is a review content record in the publication record of the issue containing the review. Unfortunately, we can not create publication records for non-speculative fiction publications like Publisher's Weekly. You have the option to add this data manually by updating the title record of the work being reviewed. So go to the anthology's title record, click on "Edit Title Data" and in the Note field enter the data for the review. BTW you should add a colon to the number in the previous message so that each subsequent post is indented from the one above it. If you look at the raw data of this topic (click the [edit] link to the right), you'll see that this message has four colons in front of it (it's the fourth response to the original post). If you respond to this message, you'll need to enter five colons in front of the response. (This is standard Wiki language.) Also, I've responded to the questions you asked in the email. You should have received it by now. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I understand. I mis-read it while I was initially inputting the book. Thank you again for your help. Eric J. Guignard 23:21, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

INTERIORART records

Records for interior art should be titled the same as the work they illustrate. You have the option of creating one record for each work of art, or one for the entire book. I changed the title of the INTERIORART record for this book to the title of the book. One question, was the cover art a collaboration between you and Kevin Scott Sutay? Or are there different elements that each of you are responsible for? Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, yes, for Audra Phillips, she has 35 separate illustrations all within the book interior. For the cover, I credited in the copyright page as Cover Art by Kevin Scott Sutay and Cover Design by Eric J. Guignard. Thank you.Eric J. Guignard 00:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Then you should not be credited in the Cover Art field. We only have the option to credit the Cover Design in the record's Note field. Please correct the record when you get a chance. (I removed the extra colons you entered in the previous response. Remember, just add one to the number in the previous post. This is the second response to the original message so it has two colons.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:31, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I made the corrections, per your request. All should be good now! Thank you for your review and insight.Eric J. Guignard 00:42, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Evil Jester Digest, Volume 2

Submission adding this record was accepted by a few changes were made. The deep-link to the cover image file on Goodreads was replaced by the one on the Amazon.com server. We can only link to files on servers for which we have been given permission. Those permitting sites are listed here. You always have the option of uploading the file to the ISFDB server. Just click on the link "Upload cover scan" under the metadata of the publication record, and follow the directions. The file must be saved on your hard drive first.

I also removed the Note that "Data from book in hand. Cover Art from www.goodreads.com. ISBN-10: 0615735444 ISBN-13: 978-0615735443" The primary source was noted in the "Note to Moderator" field, the cover art no longer links to Goodreads, and it's not necessary to add the ISBN to the Note field, that goes in the ISBN field. The system automatically generates the matching ISBN, e. g. entering the ISBN-13 generates the ISBN-10, and entering the ISBN-10 generates the ISBN-13. You should only enter the one that's given in the publication itself. (Publishers weren't require to use the ISBN-13 until January 2007, but some started earlier than that.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

All noted. Thanks again for your careful review!Eric J. Guignard 03:29, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

The Horror Zine [Books]

Hi. In researching some other Horror Zine-related submissions, I came to the conclusion that they call themselves "The Horror Zine", not "The Horror Zine Books", so I changed the only two publications we had referring to them with "Books" to omit that. One of those was your verified A Feast of Frights. From what I could see in the Amazon Look Inside, it looked like that is consistent, but the Look Inside does not show the title page. If you would check and let me know if you see "The Horror Zine Books", that would be great -- I can easily put it back. Thanks. --MartyD 11:12, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Marty! The original e-magazine is "The Horror Zine" and the print books are compilations of "best of" from these stories. The interior title page of A Feast of Frights states: "Published by The Horror Zine Books". I do see that on Amazon.com, the publisher is simply listed as "The Horror Zine". Not sure where the discrepancy is, but the physical book does say: The Horror Zine Books.
Thanks. I put it back and added a statement to that effect in the notes. I also changed the other book -- I can see it has the same "Published by The Horror Zine Books" on its title page (which is shown in the Look Inside). --MartyD 11:38, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Smog / Baggage of Eternal Night

I'm holding the submission to add a record of this publication. It appears that this should be typed as either an OMNIBUS of two novels or an ANTHOLOGY of two novellas, not a NOVEL. At 222 pages, it's likely to be the latter. Do you know if either of the works are over 40,000 words?

Also, the Amazon Look-Inside shows the cover artist is Alan M. Clark, not Alan Clark. How is your copy credited? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 00:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

One last thing: Amazon gives the publication date as September 6, 2013. Is this correct? If so, that should be the date of the record, with Amazon given as the source. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:09, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Looking at the Amazon listing, I see it indicates the contents are novellas. I'm going to accept the submission and make the changes. This will mean creating content records for each of the two novellas. Once I've finished, I'll let you know, and then you can make any changes to the data that doesn't match your copy. Mhhutchins 00:57, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Here is the amended publication record. Mhhutchins 01:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your updates!
To answer your questions: Word Count for each novella is as follows: 22,000 words for SMOG and 35,000 words for BAGGAGE OF ETERNAL NIGHT. Neither have been published before. I suppose you're right that Anthology would okay. I think an Omnibus is for "previously published material". Is 40,000 words the count needed for a novel?
Alan M. Clark is correct. He goes by both names of Alan M. Clark and Alan Clark. I think when I tried first to link his name, it was only as Alan Clark. Anyway, it is correct as your currently have it.
Yes, September 6, 2013 is the correct publication date.
Anyway, it appears all the updates you made are correct. Thanks again, and sorry for my delay in response.
Warm regards, Eric Eric J. Guignard 21:07, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes, novels start at 40K words. About Clark, he has been credited both ways. The ISFDB record should credit him the same as he's credited in the publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Hell Comes to Hollywood

Re this record: Generic titles like "Introduction" and "Foreword" should be disambiguated. Also, spaces should be used after all periods in an initialed name. ("R.B. Payne" should be entered as "R. B. Payne".) I've made corrections to the record. Also, when you get a chance, you should add the starting page for each story. (Don't use the contents page to add this data, since they are often wrong.) Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins|talk 01:30, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Also, since you've done a primary verification of the record, remove Amazon as the source given in the Note field, unless there is some data which isn't stated in the pub (like the price or publication date) and is only available on Amazon. Mhhutchins|talk 01:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Stoker Awards

I mistakenly rejected your submission to add an award because it was entered under the wrong year...or so I thought. I had assumed that the 2014 award was for work published in 2013. It appears that the 2014 Stoker award was presented in 2015 for work published in 2014. Most awards date their awards for work in the previous year. I've made the correction. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins|talk 07:22, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Exploring Dark Short Fiction #1: A Primer to Steve Rasnic Tem

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to make some changes to conform to our standards:

  • changed author to simply Steve Rasnic Tem (in such case we only list the fiction authors).
  • largely trimmed synopsis (it's not a blurbing space).
  • disambiguated Introduction.
  • regularized the title of the INTERIORART record (set it to the title of the book).
  • merged the stories with the ones already in the db.

The result is here. As the publisher (or so I suppose), you'll be able to add the page numbers and the price. Note that you may also opt to shorten the title to simply A Primer to Steve Rasnic Tem (IMHO a better solution), but it's your call. Thanks for contributing. Hauck 16:37, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

Thanks so much for your review and modifications! Eric J. Guignard 16:28, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for adding this book. Would you be able to check how long the new story "Whatever You Want" is? Under 7,500 words is a short story, 7,500-17,500 is a novelette, longer is a novella. Thanks!
The story, "Whatever You Want" is 3,357 words long.Eric J. Guignard 12:34, 7 August 2017 (EDT)
Also, I have corrected the binding in this record: the book is 5.5 by 8.5 inches in size, so the binding is tp not pb. --Vasha 04:08, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
OKay, thanks! Eric J. Guignard 12:34, 7 August 2017 (EDT)

Winter Horror Days

In your verified publication Winter Horror Days you have "Winter Witch" down as a short story, but is this really correct? On her own bibliography the author says it's a poem. --Vasha 19:02, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Hi Vasha, yes, you are correct. I have the book in hand. “Winter Witch” should be classified as a poem, not as a short story. Additionally, the inclusion, “Krampus Comes to Town” should also be listed as a poem. I’m not sure how to go back and make the corrections on my end… are you able to correct?

Eric J. Guignard 11:31, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

There is an "Edit" link at the top right corner of every record, to take you to the form to make changes. --Vasha 12:30, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

That Which Grows Wild, publication dates

I added original publication dates to some of the stories in That Which Grows Wild based on your PDF bibliography--if you get a chance, I'd appreciate if you'd check that it's all correct. Thanks --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 20:41, 15 October 2018 (EDT)

They look fine, thank you very much!Eric J. Guignard 12:37, 3 November 2020 (EST)

Typo in "The Best of Horror Library: Volumes 1-5"

Hi, please check and fix the title on page 191 of The Best of Horror Library: Volumes 1-5; I think it should be "Exegesis of THE Insect Apocrypha." --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 02:12, 21 December 2018 (EST)

Sorry for the delay in response, but yes, you are correct. It should read as: "Exegesis of the Insect Apocrypha".Eric J. Guignard 22:44, 2 November 2020 (EST)

Exploring Dark Short Fiction

A quick note to let you know that "Exploring Dark Short Fiction" has been converted from a "title series" to a "publication series". Publication series generally consist of otherwise unrelated texts that were grouped by the publisher in some way. The change affected one of your verified publications, Exploring Dark Short Fiction #1: A Primer to Steve Rasnic Tem. Ahasuerus 17:37, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Sorry for the delay in response, but this is noted, and thank you.Eric J. Guignard 22:41, 2 November 2020 (EST)
I'm also renaming each volume with the preface of: Exploring Dark Short Fiction. That is the full and proper title, e.g.: Exploring Dark Short Fiction #3: A Primer to Nisi Shawl. Additionally I'm adding myself as cover artist on each, as well as filling out other fields of info. (it's been a long time since I've added to these pages!)Eric J. Guignard 22:51, 2 November 2020 (EST)
This is against current practice actually - we do not add the name of the series to the title of a book. As "Exploring Dark Short Fiction" is the series already, it should really not be added to the title as well. We can add you as the artist of course but if we add the series name, someone will remove it sooner or later to make the books conform to policy :( Annie 12:32, 3 November 2020 (EST)
Thank you for the feedback. I don't want to go outside of current practice. But if I was to click on the individual publication record, the title would not reference the full and correct title that aligns with ISBN numbers and all other publication records... For example, this page: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?702340 . The publication title just states: A Primer to Nisi Shawl. However the official title is: Exploring Dark Short Fiction #3: A Primer to Nisi Shawl. Again, I don't want to cause any weird page issues, so I will defer to your judgement. I'm just a bit confused on that.
You can add that to the notes -- with a note that the series name is removed per current usage. If you look at the title level, lower on the page, you will see the series name. A lot of books have their series on their title pages and a lot of them have them as part of their name on copyright pages because the publisher decided to. If you insist on adding them, someone may approve... but as I mentioned - even if they get approved now, someone may change them again at any time... and we really do not want an editing war on our hands. It is a bit of a gray area -- if a book has its own title, the series usually gets removed from the name. But adding the series is not completely out of policy either - at least for now. The text in the help page is: "Note that the title page may show the series name, and sometimes the publication's position in the series. The present (2018) usage is to enter only the "simplified" title, for example, you could enter the title for a publication as "Song of the Dragon" and the note would have "The title page states 'Song of the' over 'Dragon' over 'The annals of Drakis: Book One'."" Annie 13:06, 3 November 2020 (EST)

BTW, second (and unrelated) question: Once I have submitted an edit, and it goes to the moderator for approval, is there a way to go back and make a correction to what I submitted? Yesterday I made updates to pages, and then realized I forgot to correct something, or didn't explain my reasoning appropriately. But once I've sent the edit, I don't know how to revise it, until it's been reviewed (i.e. I don't want to waste a moderator's time checking something I mis-input)!Eric J. Guignard 12:46, 3 November 2020 (EST)

No, you cannot correct an already submitted edit. You can reject it (from your My Pending and submit it again though. That way you won't confuse the moderators as well -- if you have multiple edits in the system, depending on the order of approval, you may end up with really bad data :) Annie 13:06, 3 November 2020 (EST)
Oh, thank you! That helps, I'll just cancel those issues and resubmit.Eric J. Guignard 13:12, 3 November 2020 (EST)
Trick you can use is to use your browser's back button - if you do, you'll need to take care to carefully check, because not everything is preserved when using the back button. That way you don't have to type in everything again. Regards, MagicUnk 14:03, 4 November 2020 (EST)
Ah, got it. I did try that once, and didn't understand why some info had saved and not others, and spent more time trying to check and understand the discrepancy, than if I'd just started over! :) Eric J. Guignard 18:50, 4 November 2020 (EST)
Hi Eric, as explained above, I have not accepted your submission to add the (pub) series title to the publication title of A Pripmer to Kaaron Warren nor for A Primer to Nisi Shawl. Again, while it is not against policy per se, it is against current practice to not add series titles to the publication title. I did accept your addition of titles to the Contents though. Oh, and by the way, importing contents is really easy. Once the new contents is added, you can select 'Import contents' from the left hand menu, and use option 1. Regards, MagicUnk 17:36, 10 November 2020 (EST)
Okay, noted, and thank you!Eric J. Guignard 17:03, 12 November 2020 (EST)

Negative Space

Hi Eric, I've approved your submission to add Negative Space. A tip for the future: when adding a URL from Amazon for the cover image, you may sometimes get a message that the URL is formatted incorrectly. To correct this you can simply discard everything that comes after "L", so it ends "...L.jpg" (Amazon image URLs always end in L). I've made this simple correction for you, and there's also no requirement to add "Cover art supplied by Amazon" to the Note; this already appears under the image. Also, in future please note the several words that we do not capitalized in titles, as detailed in the 5th bullet point under Title in the NewPub help screen here. I've also corrected those few words for you. Thanks. PeteYoung 21:13, 11 November 2020 (EST)

Okay, thank you very much.Eric J. Guignard 17:03, 12 November 2020 (EST)

The Beetle

Hello! I hold your submission for your new entry of The Beetle. Perhaps I'm blind, but where is the difference of your entry and the already present record The Beetle? Regards Rudolf Rudam 08:28, 27 August 2021 (EDT)

No, it's my fault! Apologies. After I input it, I got the error message of the ISBN already existing. Somehow I missed that originally. And I should have withdrawn the submission. I'll do so now. Eric J. Guignard 16:37, 27 August 2021 (EDT)

Longshot Island

We record anthologies and magazines in very different ways - different dating (dating based on cover date and NOT based on exact date unless it is a regular schedule; most likely this will mean a date of 2018-00-00 for Longshot Island: Small Choices) and naming conventions (they will become "Longshot Island, Issue 7" for example unless we can find a date/month - then this is what will be used). Magazines don't get reprints either (well, they do but when that happens, we treat the reprint as an anthology) so this ebook which is from 2020 will NEED to become a 2018 one (as that's when the magazine was published) OR will need to remain an anthology as a reprint. We have two choices here:

  • Leave these as they are and add a note explaining that the publisher calls these magazines but as they are anthologies of stories and their different formats are in different years and do not contain any other material (columns, letters and so on), they are added as anthologies.
  • Convert them and move all the extra information (exact dates, the subtitles on the magazine issues and so on) to the notes; split the reprints from the magazines and form separate series under a single umbrella.

Let me know what you think. I'd opt for option 1 if I were you but... :) Magazines in this DB are something very specific (And yes, these rules get more and more divorced from reality as publishing changes but they are the current rules so... until we change them, we follow them). Thanks! Annie 17:25, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

Dear Annie, I'm very sorry for my delay in response! I’m just going to leave the entry “as is” for the time being, i.e. no need to do anything further. I feel like I want to input it correctly as a magazine, but am not ready at this time, and will just come back to this another day when I have all the mag’s accurate info. And thank you for your detailed note explaining the process and options! Eric J. Guignard 19:40, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
No worries. Keep in mind that the rules may change later - this is becoming a common occurrence and the magazines rules were built based on paper magazines essentially. So if the rules change and we do not need to date weirdly the reprints (or treat them as anthologies), it will be a lot easier to make the decision. If that happens and I do not remember to fix this one, just ping me and I will convert these for you. Thanks for the understanding! Annie 20:20, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
Thank you, and I will! :) Eric J. Guignard 09:52, 2 November 2021 (EDT)

A Primer to Han Song

Hi Eric, I've expanded the Contents for this ebook to include all interior art and commentaries/essays. I've also varianted the credit "Michael Arnzen, PhD" to Michael A. Arnzen. Feel free to import them into your hc edition, but as I don't have that (or the tp edition) I don't know the page numbers, which you would need to add. Once you have done that, you could import the entire pub contents to the tp edition (assuming the page numbers are the same). All up to you.

Gotta say: great collection, my first encounter with Han Song too. I'll be expanding his presence at my site as much as I can. Cheers. PeteYoung 13:01, 2 November 2021 (EDT)

Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind note, and updates to this entry are on my very-soon to-do list. :) Eric J. Guignard 13:12, 2 November 2021 (EDT)
Hi Pete, for this book, how do we credit the translator of individual stories? For example, for the story "My Country Does Not Dream," it was written in Chinese by author Han Song. But it was translated into English for this 2020-09-28 Primer by Nathaniel Isaacson. Eric J. Guignard 12:51, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
It is already done. We do that on the title records. See My Country Does Not Dream. Annie 12:55, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
Ah, got it. I see it now. Thank you! Eric J. Guignard 13:01, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

A Primer to Jeffrey Ford

You are getting good at updating these :) A few small notes about this one:

  • LCCN only lists the paperback. I know that you usually do no apply for separate LCCN per format but technically speaking, that record is only for the paperback so I would not add it to an ebook.
  • Each essay or story that has a date different from the date of the book needs to be edited in one of two ways:
  • Add a note in the title record explaining where this date comes from (for example "First publication: Asimov's, January 2011").
  • Add the book/magazine where it was initially published and add that and import the essay/story. We should never have unexplained dates in the DB - otherwise one of the those days, one of the cleanup jobs will find these and we will reset to match the information on the book (due to lack of any other information). So when you take care to add the correct dates, let's also make sure they stay that way.

The last one could not have been done before I approved - I am just posting next expected steps as you do not edit often enough to be sure you are planning to. Additionally, when doing that, adding a moderator note to your submission listing the sources is also useful for two things: someone may assist and do the notes/books but also there is a record in case things are left unfinished. Or just tell us you will sort out the dates. OR leave the dates to the default and fix them when you are adding the sources to the titles. :) Let me know if you have any questions.

While I was around I checked this one (should have done before I approved so now I will do the merges). When you already have the stories in one book, you do NOT need to add them again. You can import them instead. Let me know if you have questions about that. However - the Goodreads on this one was wrong - it pointed to the ebook. And I removed the Goodreads from the hardcover - there is no record for the hardcover in Goodreads. Annie 21:47, 2 November 2021 (EDT)
Okay, thank you for the helpful notes, Annie. I've somehow overlooked the import option! I've always hand-input the records into one book, and then cloned it for other formats... but when an entry is already existing but missing info, I've just filled in the missing fields, which is time consuming. Anyway, thanks again for the suggestion, which I'll try next time. :) Eric J. Guignard 00:53, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
Yep. A lot of work for you. A lot of work post approval. :) Also - when importing, if the title with this ID is already in the book, we will not import twice. So I’d fill the earliest edition and then wait for it to be approved, then you just import all from it in the rest of the editions and the site sorts out what is missing - no need to chase the different IDs for each missing piece. :) Annie 01:03, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

A Primer to Kaaron Warren

No need to renumber in cases like this. We will order based on the numbers - they do not need to be sequential. You will often see people using the paperback pages with pipe (I) in front of it so it is clear how many "pages" this content may be taking. Makes it also easier to insert a missing title :) I also cleared up the Goodreads numbers on the whole set. The external ID section is for IDs that belong to this specific edition of the book, not links to other editions. If there is no ID in Goodreads as with your hardcovers, you do NOT add the ebook one instead. See also my notes on LCCN - if you insist on having them in, a note needs to be added into the publication notes explaining what LCCN lists actually and why it belongs to this edition as well. Thanks! Annie 22:01, 2 November 2021 (EDT)

I completely blew past the fact that Goodreads has a separate external ID for each format. I was reusing the same ID for ebook, pb, and hc. Apologies--I'll be more clear when I input that. Eric J. Guignard 00:54, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
Even 2 for eBooks with ISBNs often - one for the isbn, one for the asin (because Amazon stopped connecting those for them). So a lot of eBooks will have 2 Goodreads numbers. :) And no worries - if no one tells you, you can miss it - so I stop by and explain in such cases. I think I fixed almost all of yours but if you want to look through them one more time, it cannot hurt. :) Annie 00:59, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
Let me make that a bit clearer - if an ID does not belong to THAT edition, you do NOT add it in the external IDs list. At all. LCCN is probably one of the only exceptions technically as you almost never have separate ones so it can be acceptable (I'd rather not but if someone insists, as long as there are notes, it's fine). But the Goodreads ID for a paperback should never be added to the hardcover edition because Goodreads does separate editions per format. If there is no record for that specific format/ISBN/ASIN, you just do not add an ID. See how I fixed it here. Thanks! Annie 13:06, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
Okay, noted. :) Eric J. Guignard 13:20, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Adding covers to existing books

I approved the cover here. However, when you forget to follow the instructions on how to add covers and do not use the very handy "Upload new cover scan" link which we have on every book, you MUST apply a license template to the image manually. The process is explained here Alternatively, I can delete this one and you can use the link (which will upload the file in the correct place and do all those manual steps and all you will need is to add the link into the field). Let me know what you prefer to do :) Annie 23:14, 2 November 2021 (EDT)

Okay, I just reuploaded the cover using the "Upload new cover scan" link! Eric J. Guignard 12:47, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
Update approved, the old image is now deleted. You can see here how the licenses appeared when you uploaded with the link. Thanks! :) Annie 13:00, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Professor Charlatan Bardot's Travel Anthology ebook

I had to reject the clone for the ebook - it needs too many changes to fix it so instead, let's do a new clone.

  • For ebooks, the pages field stays empty. The length is added only in the notes
  • The pages number in front of each of the contents items needs to be after a pipe (so 25 becomes |25) or you can use |1, |2 and so on. But we cannot have page numbers.
  • The note about LCCN needs to be in the regular notes, not in the moderator notes. See how I fixed the hardcover of the same book

Would you like to try to clone it again? Or I can if you would rather not - but approving what is now in the queue would had meant a lot of extra work post approval and as clones don't take that long, I'd rather we redo it (had it been new contents, I would have approved and fixed but this clone took 3 clicks :) Thanks and let me know if you have any questions. Annie 13:12, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Yes, I'll redo it, following your recommendations. Eric J. Guignard 13:16, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

The Queen of Spades

And here is where translations become fun. Who translated this story in December Tales? As you can see here, we already know of 3 translations (with this title and author form anyway - we have more under different names). If it is one of these 3, we will merge the new title with its brothers. If it is a new one though, we add the translator and we variant it on its own. If we do not know, it will get merged into the "Translated by an unknown or uncredited hand" bucket. I will leave that to you here. Let me know if you have questions! Annie 13:21, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Hi Annie, the Pushkin story is only listed on the copyright page as "a work of public domain" authored by Alexander Pushkin (and I do realize that I incorrectly input the anthology publication date for the date of the story rather than the story's original date, so apologies). This book is a combination of reprint classics and modern/new short stories.
Then it goes into the big bucket and one day we may figure out the translation based on the texts. Add this ""a work of public domain" authored by Alexander Pushkin" statement in the publication note - it will be useful later on.
Also as an aside, per the copyright page: The editor of this book, J.D. Horn, credits himself with the 2021-09-28 English translation (from French) of two stories:
Véra by Auguste Villiers de l'Isle-Adam
The White and the Black by Erckmann-Chatrian
Thank you for all your assistance! Eric J. Guignard 13:29, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
You now know where to record this information now - add him as a translator on the title level (click on one of those with a translator to see how we do it - we use a template for that), then variant to the originals. If you are not sure at any step, post back, I will either guide you or do it for you and explain it after that - whatever you prefer. :) Annie 13:38, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Fear the Future

A few small things on this one:

  • Capitalization - we follow house rules here regardless of what the books show. See the case section for the exact rules (we follow a flat list of what is never capitalized unless first in a title/subtitle and capitalize everything else). In this case: "Is" is always capitalized (and "So" and "As" and "Am" - these are the usual one people mix up). "in" is never capitalized unless it is the first word.
  • When an author name uses initials, we always add a space after the dot. The only exception is if the author never uses a space. So "C. S. Mergo" and not "C.S. Mergo" because his personal Twitter has a space - so obviously that is not an author's choice not to have one. More here, Initials section. You can add a pub note if you believe that the difference is significant in that specific publication.

These are now fixed. Thanks for adding the contents! As it turned out we even had one of the stories so I merged it with its original. :) Annie 13:34, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Okay, thank you. I didn't know one was a reprint--there's no notice of previous copyright in the book. Eric J. Guignard 13:46, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
A couple of reprints that need to be merged post approval are never an issue and happen often. It is the "you need to now merge 10+ titles" that should give you a pause and make you think of Import. I would not have imported for one story either - faster to type and merge ;) Annie 13:50, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Café Tanuki

When working with another title by Umiyuri Katsuyama, I noticed this title Café Tanuki. You are crediting Toshiya Kamei as a co-author. Are you sure he isn't the translator of this work. If so, then you need to edit the title, removing the author credit and inserting the translator template in the notes. Either way, the title need to be varianted to Umiyuri Katsuyama's canonical name 勝山海百合. Let me know if this doesn't make sense. John Scifibones 15:12, 27 January 2022 (EST)

I am very sorry for the delay in response, and apologies for the oversight in how it was submitted. I just submitted the change as you requested: I corrected to credit author as only Umiyuri Katsuyama, and added note that it was translated by Toshiya Kamei. Eric J. Guignard 15:02, 11 April 2022 (EDT)
No problem, thanks for taking care of it. John Scifibones 16:31, 11 April 2022 (EDT)

Horror Error

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1871034; "Word" should be "World", right? --Username 12:58, 4 March 2022 (EST)

Yes, that is correct. Thank you for catching that! I just submitted a change."Eric J. Guignard 13:55, 10 April 2022 (EDT)

After Death Editions

I corrected the page count for this anthology from 330 to xi+315, added ix to your intro, and added LCCN and Open Library ID; LCCN is the one that actually has the correct page count, but OL shows a cover with a blurb on it which doesn't appear on either edition entered on ISFDB (the actual book on Archive.org shows the regular cover, although with a big barcode stuck on it). Was the edition with the blurb a later one? --Username 12:13, 28 April 2022 (EDT)

Okay, thank you. There was/is a bar code on the back cover of the book, but there's never been a bar code on the front. And your edits sound fine.Eric J. Guignard (talk) 14:25, 2 October 2022 (EDT)

I just added the cover artist credit to Night Terrors III: Horror Anthology. MLB 22:35, 31 May 2022 (EDT)

OK, thank you. Eric J. Guignard (talk) 14:25, 2 October 2022 (EDT)

Night Terrors III

I just added the cover artist credit to Night Terrors III: Horror Anthology. MLB 22:35, 31 May 2022 (EDT)

OK, thank you. Eric J. Guignard (talk) 14:25, 2 October 2022 (EDT)
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