User talk:Don Erikson/Archive 03

Archive for messages January 2013 through May 2014

Star Trek 8

Re: Star Trek 8
Adding LCCN to notes.--Astromath 18:47, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Night in Funland

I accepted the submissions updating this record by removing "Exchange of Men" and replacing it with "The Scarlet Ibis", but there are two reliable source that differ: Locus1 and OCLC. Are you certain you're working from the same edition? Mhhutchins 01:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

I believe I was the one originally entered this book (so long ago & so many books since). Instead typing in the content I clicked and dragged from the WorldCat page which is as far as I can tell is the for the same book I own. So the original error was mine for trusting WorldCat who seemed to have gotten their content from another printing.. After some searching I've found that later printings replaced "The Scarlet Ibis" for "Exchange of Men". There also evidence that there was another paperback editions from the publisher Lantern and some University press. To make thing more confusing there is a collection by William Peden "Night in Funland and Other Stories". So in conclusion this 1st printing by SBS is correct and any other printing is still up in the air.Don Erikson 20:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Please do a primary verification of the record to keep another editor from coming along and changing it back. Mhhutchins 21:20, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

To Live Forever

Re: To Live Forever Adding LCCN to notes.--Astromath 04:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

The Impossible Spy

The ISBN given in this record is incomplete. Can you check to see if the valid ISBN is stated in the book? Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:18, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I corrected my error.Don Erikson 22:25, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Cosmic Knights

Added printing statement and artist signature notes to your verified Cosmic Knights.

Also, your change to Dreadnought! is still on hold pending a response here. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

The Planet Savers

I just added cover art credit to The Planet Savers/The Sword of Aldones. If the cover you show is the correct one, the cover art is the same as all the other Whelan-painted covers to this title and is by Michael Whelan as proof from his artbook Wonderworks and his 2nd trading card series. Ofearna 02:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

The Seven Cardinal Virtues

Replaced the amazon image with a scan and corrected the title to match the Title page for [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Introduction Typo

Can you please double check Introductiob (The Unknown Five) from your verified pub? If this is a typo in the actual publication, please add a note or if not, correct the spelling of "Introduction" in the title? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

It's a typo on my part. I'm surprized there ain't moore.Don Erikson 20:14, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:30, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguating generic titles

I corrected the title of the introduction in this record to follow ISFDB standards. Mhhutchins 19:28, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Norton's Perilous Dreams

Can you look again at this book and see if there is an ISBN? By 1978 DAW has started giving ISBNs on their spines. It may be 0-87997-405-2. (The linked OCLC record gives that ISBN.) Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 19:27, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes there is that ISBN on the spine.Don Erikson 19:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I've added it to the ISBN field, and moved the catalog number to the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

The Wrong End of Time

Changed the date to the proper year for [this]. The edition the WSFDB was referring to was the hardcover, a record for which didn't exist until yesterday. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:20, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Isaac Asimov's Wonderful Worlds of Science Fiction # 1: Intergalactic Empires

I made the following changes to Intergalactic Empires:

• Expanded the notes
• Added the uncredited essays that divide the sections
• Added the cover image that you had scanned & uploaded to the wiki, but had not been added to the publication
• Changed the credit of "Chalice of Death" to Robert Silverberg per the title page (previously it had been credited to the original pseudonym)
• Changed the credit of "Fighting Philosopher" to E. B. Cole per the title page (previously it had been credited to Everett B. Cole)

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

To Keep the Ship

Re: To Keep the Ship
Where'd you get the printing date for this pub? My copy has no printing date for the 3rd printing and the 1983 date that I can find on the net is not specific to the 3rd printing. If you did not add the date, please ignore this post. I'm contacting the other verifier with the same issue just in case.--Astromath 16:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. Hauck answered my question.--Astromath 17:35, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

The Ringworld Engineers

Re: The Ringworld Engineers Replacing Amazon image with one of better quality scanned from personal collection. Reformatting/adding notes.--Astromath 01:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Exiles at the Well of Souls

Re: Exiles at the Well of Souls & Quest for the Well of Souls & The Return of Nathan Brazil Added LCCN to notes.--Astromath 23:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Tubb's World at Bay

Can you confirm the listing in the Whole SF DB 8 for this record? I think it may have been confused with the Paul Capon similarly-titled novel The World at Bay. I could find no secondary source for a US publication of the Tubb novel. And what are the odds that Winston would have published another novel in 1959 with titles that similar and with cover art by the same artist? Mhhutchins 03:57, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

The WSFDB 8 does say it & the 1st printing are by Tubb but I think you are right, it is their mistake.Don Erikson 22:07, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll delete the publication record, but add a note to the title record to help prevent another editor from re-creating it based on the false secondary source. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Echoes of the Well of Souls

Re: Echoes of the Well of Souls Added LCCN to notes.--Astromath 04:22, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Darkover Landfall

Hello! In your verified Darkover Landfall augmented the title of Gaughan artwork "Darkover Landfall" with "(frontispiece)" to match it with the other printings and merge with Darkover Landfall (frontispiece). Thank you! ForJohnScalzi 23:36, 4 February 2013 (UTC).

Doom Star Number Two

Your verified Doom Star Number Two is missing a number in the ISBN. I believe there should be a 0 in between the double dashes (as in 0-503-0-7050-5). Would you mind checking? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Actually it was typo, the "-" for the "0" next to it. I fixed it. Thanx.Don Erikson 20:07, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Cover art credit for Against the Fall of Night

According to an earlier printing of this book there is a visible signature of Ron Walotsky. Mhhutchins 02:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

And so does a later printing which you verified. Mhhutchins 02:10, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Missed that one. I fixed it and double checked the rest. Don Erikson 20:00, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

The Brain

Hello, you've verified this pub with the short story _The Brain_ by Norbert Weiner. Can you check if it's not Wiener ? Thanks. Hauck 18:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

You are right it is Wiener.Don Erikson 19:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Corrected. Thanks Hauck 20:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

The City of Gold and Lead cover artist identified

The cover art of this paperback edition is identical to the cover art used for the Macmillan hc edition where the artist is credited as "Roger Hane" (his signature is partially visible on the hc scan.) Mhhutchins 23:00, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Also this edition. Mhhutchins 23:02, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I've added the credits these. Thanks.Don Erikson 19:31, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Please read my notifcation preference again

I left you a message on my notification page. Please read it when you get a chance. Mhhutchins 23:06, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I've been waiting for a response to the question I posed there, while placing the submission to update this record on hold. I'll remove my hold and let another moderator handle it. Mhhutchins 03:29, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I want to apologize. I started to just note the addition of artist name and then realized blah blah blah... But ultimately it's still my fault so, sorry. And considering the signature it's there, barely visible an inch from the spine & half inch from the bottom. Sorry for the delay in answering but I just got laid off (the lying bastards) so thing have been crazy here.Don Erikson 19:26, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Damn. I'm sorry to hear that. Hope it all works out eventually. Mhhutchins 19:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Reader's Page (Fantastic Adventures, Novenber 1950)

I corrected the spelling of November within the magazine title parenthetical for:

• Reader's Page (Fantastic Adventures, Novenber 1950)

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:59, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Terror Bajo El Mar

I accepted the submission adding this pub to the database. It didn't give any source for the data, so I had to assume you had the book in hand. In the future, please let the moderator know this in the "Note to Moderator" field. Mhhutchins 20:47, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I own this and dozens of other foreign language edition. Mostly Japanese, French & Spanish. I have over a dozen Robert Sheckley foreign language paperbacks alone from his personal collection that will be fun to submit later. If I donn't own or have access to a book I will mentioned it.Don Erikson 23:47, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Aliens

I had to reject a submission to update this record by adding an ESSAY titled "Four Vignettes". This is the group title for the four stories by Niven, so it can't be an ESSAY. Because the ISFDB has no way to handle group titles, the only way to do so is to note it in the record's Note field. Mhhutchins 21:35, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I wrote a detailed defense of my decision only realize that each story has a short introductory essay. So I'll now go and add a note to entries.Don Erikson 23:35, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Armageddon

Is Greenberg explicitly credited as one of the editors of this publication, or is it just copyrighted to him? If the latter, his name should be removed from the pub record and title record, but you can leave the copyright notice in the Note field. Mhhutchins 00:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Gtreenberg is only mentioned in the copyright notice so I'll do as you recommended.Don Erikson 16:53, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Your change still implies that he is credited as editor on the copyright page. If that is true, then its OK to credit him as a co-editor of the record. If he only holds the copyright, and is not explicitly credited as the editor, on either the title page or the copyright page, that should be made clear. (Holding the copyright doesn't imply authorship or editorship.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Discoveries in Fantasy

I expanded the notes a bit for Carter's Discoveries in Fantasy. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 15:24, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Great Short Novels of Adult Fantasy (I)

I also added notes to Carter's Great Short Novels of Adult Fantasy. I additionally removed the Roman number from the title as it is not reflected on the title page. I probably wouldn't have noticed if not for the difference in titles being mentioned in the Bleiler review that I added to the notes. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 15:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Great Short Novels of Adult Fantasy: Volume II

One last one. I expanded the notes a bit for Carter's Great Short Novels of Adult Fantasy: Volume II. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 15:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Cogswell's The Wall Around the World and The Third Eye

I expanded the notes to Cogswell's The Wall Around the World and The Third Eye. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 12:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

A Walk with the Beast

I expanded the notes a bit for Collins' A Walk with the Beast. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 12:38, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

TheThe Ether Vibrates (Startling Stories, November 1942)

There is a double "The" in TheThe Ether Vibrates (Startling Stories, November 1942) in one of your verified pubs. Would you mind checking and either correcting or adding a note if the typo is in the publication? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I checked and it as usual my fault. It's now fixed. Good catch.Don Erikson 19:46, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

In the Grip of Terror et al

I expanded the notes a bit for Conklin's In the Grip of Terror. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 23:19, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Also his The Graveyard Reader. Thanks again. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 23:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Also his Br-r-r-! . --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 23:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Mandrake

A book published in 1966 wouldn't have a decimalized price. So it would be better to give the printed price in the Price field, and note that your copy has a stickered price which indicates a later distribution of the 1966 printing. Mhhutchins 19:49, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Good point, didn't think of that. I have fixed it.Don Erikson 19:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Not really. In the new submission you want to remove the date from the record. If it says "Published in Penguin Books 1966" shouldn't that be the date given in the ISFDB record? If it has a stickered price, and you're able to get to the printed price, it's the printed price which should be given in the record. Mhhutchins 19:59, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I believe this a publisher applied sticker (using a back light I can see the old price is 4/'). But there is a lot of questions about this book. Just because it says published in "1966" (as opposed to "August 1966" as the other printing says) doesn't necessarily mean if wasn't print later, we've all seen examples of that. Also putting higher prices on books released after spending time in a warehouse isn't unheard of. The only thing anyone can do is describe the as it is and note the discrepancies. Which I will do now.Don Erikson 20:19, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

That was one of the points I was trying to make. This could have sat in the warehouse, and then distributed later (circa 1978/79 based on the stickered price). But we don't create new records for such "printings", because they're not new printings. We just record the sticker in the note field of the record for the original printing. Which brings up another point: how can we be certain that this was a publisher sticker and not a dealer-applied price? I can't imagine a book being warehoused for 12 years. But I can imagine a bookshop where the book has been sitting around, and the dealer covering up the original price and selling it for the going price. I'll accept the submission, but am still wary of the record. Mhhutchins 20:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

War * Moon

Is the asterisk in this title intentionally an asterisk, i.e. author authorized? Or is it a graphic element that could have been added by the book designer? Does it appear on the title page and is it included in the title of the copyright notice? Mhhutchins 19:53, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

It is an eight-pointed asterisk on the cover, back cover, spine, title page and regular 5-pointed one on the page header on the top of every page. So a star shape is part of the title. But an asterisk being the only generally used typographical symbol available in this case I, used it. Do you have another suggestion?Don Erikson 20:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

No. I just wanted to make sure it appears in the title other than on the cover. Are there spaces around the star? Mhhutchins 20:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

On the cover and title page it is War then the asterisk on top of the Moon. On the spine and back cover if is one line and there appears to be spaces but the the page headers there is no spaces. WorldCat & LoC gives no asterisk, but is it because the limitations of there systems or do they see at a decorative item. You know. all this is why I didn't submit this book the first time thru. I'm leaning on going with what the title page says.Don Erikson 22:49, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Space Doctor

Please check the date given in the date field with the one given in the note field of this record. The first printing was in June 1981. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:15, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Forgot to change it when I cloned the 1st. Fixed now.Don Erikson 17:26, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Beyond the Farthest Star

I recently entered this issue of Burroughs Bulletin and on its cover is a reproduction of Beyond the Farthest Star which you verified here. If your copy has the same cover, I can enter this cover to your entry for you if you want. MLB 10:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

When Will You Rise by Mira Grant

I've updated the title of your verified record from When Will You Rise? to When Will You Rise: Stories to End the World, and changed the title of the bonus story (from "...#683..." to "...No. 683...") to show how the works are titled in the book. I've also given additional notes. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:42, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The Spell of Seven

I expanded the notes for de Camp's The Spell of Seven. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 12:48, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

The Year's Best Dark Fantasy and Horror: 2011

Does the Holly Black story "The Dog King" appear in this publication? The record is missing its page number. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 19:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

It is & I fixed it.Don Erikson 19:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Fire Mountain

I'm unable to find this title or author listed in any of the major sf references. The only description I could find called it a "suspense thriller". Are you certain there are spec-fic elements in the work? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

From the blurbs and a skimming this a "disaster" novel. Mt. Rainier in Washington erupts and kills people and destroys towns. With scientists characters and a lot of geology espoused. It seems close enough for me, but I'm not married to it.Don Erikson 18:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

It may be fiction about science, but that's not necessarily science fiction, or covered by any of the Definitions or Rules of Acquisition. I'll reject the submission. Mhhutchins 19:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Bulmer's To Outrun Doomsday / The Doomsday Men

Hello, Don! A german review has the two titles as variants and I am tempted to variant them on that. However, I'd like to have some more confirmation: if you have read this book (or maybe based on the cover blurb), could you confirm this assumption reading this summary? And do you know anything of a pre-publication in Galaxy magazine? After all, there's a copyright hinting to that possibility (maybe with a different title). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 10:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, by now the case is settled, I think - take a look here. Stonecreek 18:02, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

The Little Monsters

I linked to a cover scan and expanded the notes to the Elwood and Ghidalia anthology The Little Monsters. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 21:36, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, (just notes) for their Horror Hunters. Thanks again. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 21:46, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

The Tormented

Can you see if the publisher of this fourth printing is given as "Warner Paperback Library", which had taken over Paperback Library more than four years before. I see the Warner logo on the front cover. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 19:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

You're right I missed it.Cancel it and I'll redo it.Don Erikson 19:39, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Into the Void

Are you certain that the second printing had the same publication date as the first? Mhhutchins 19:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I seem to type "Oops! My mistake, it's fixed now." that maybe I should make a macro for it. It was & it is.Don Erikson 20:02, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I think I make as many mistakes as the average editor. So it's a good thing I get a second chance by moderating my own submissions. Maybe if we had a preview option, editors might catch more of their typos and similar errors. Mhhutchins 20:36, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Time to archive?

With almost 600 topics on your talk page, it appears to be a good time to archive the older ones. Do you remember how to do this, or would you like me to do it for you? (I'd only archive the messages through the end of 2012.) Mhhutchins 20:44, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. If you did it, I'd be grateful. I do not remember how to do it or even if I did it myself the first time. Thanx.Don Erikson 16:56, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. Mhhutchins 17:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Worlds of Weird cover artist identified

The cover of this publication is a reprint of the one used for Weird Tales, October 1933 credited to Margaret Brundage. I added the credit to the record and then made the coverart record a variant of the original record. Mhhutchins 16:46, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Signet ed. of The Lucifer Society

Can you confirm that no publication date is given in this book? Also, is the publisher given on the title page as New American Library? If so, the publisher field should be "Signet / New American Library". Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

You're right on both counts. The acknowledgements are part of a 3 page copyright page and I missed the date. I fixed them.Don Erikson 19:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The Midnight People

Re this record: catalog numbers should be entered with an initial # to indicate a catalog number as opposed to an ISBN. Also, is this number from the front cover or spine? Most ISFDB records for pre-ISBN books from this publisher are given in the form "#445-XXXX-YYY" with the X being the catalog number and the Y being the price code. So does "445-01359-075" appear anywhere on the book? Mhhutchins 19:34, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I fixed it.Don Erikson 19:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The Satanists

Can you confirm the spelling of the author credit of the piece on page 13 of this book? Also, does the title have one long dash or two short dashes? And what is the source for the date of 1969? I could find no piece by Derleth with this title, but I found a page for the British edition which credits the editor (Haining) with an introduction with the same title. Mhhutchins 19:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The truth is I don't know how to make a long dash. I've seen others use 2 short to make a long so that's what I did. I know one can go their whole life without learning some simple fact, but I don't know if there even are 2 different slashes.Don Erikson 23:56, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

An em dash, twice as wide as a regular dash (the en dash), can be made by holding down the ALT key and at the same time entering 0151 on you keyboard's numberpad (not the top row numbers). It will look like this: — . This is what the dash of the keyboard (below the number line) looks like: - which looks the same as an "en dash" (ALT 0150): – . Try it. Mhhutchins 00:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

What about the other questions I asked? Mhhutchins 00:29, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

The dash looks like an em dash, but with different type faces it's hard to tell the difference, I think the en dash probably the most common so I'll go with that. The essay is by Haining and the the Intro ,which I mistook for it, is by Derleth. There's may be more problems (& mistakes) with my edit than these. I'll go over it again.Don Erikson 18:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh! And the date is from the copyright date from the original Taplinger date.Don Erikson 18:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

A new question about the introduction on page 9: is it credited to "August Derlith" or "August Derleth"? Mhhutchins 14:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Geez! I have to correct my spelling every other time I type his name. Fixed it.Don Erikson 17:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The Mummy Walks Among Us

I added notes to the Ghidalia anthology The Mummy Walks Among Us referencing Reginald, Bleiler and Worlcat. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 03:06, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

also his Eight Strange Tales. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 13:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

and his Wizards and Warlocks. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 13:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

and his The Devil's Generation, which is the last one mentioned in Bleiler. Thanks again. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 13:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The Girl with the Hungry Eyes, and Other Stories

I expanded the notes to The Girl with the Hungry Eyes, and Other Stories referencing Reginald1, Bleiler and the LOC. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 22:56, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

"The Way We Fall", by Megan Crewe

I added a cover artist (from the back dj flap) and a minor note (the last note) to your verified edition of this book. Chavey 05:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Tales from the Cobra Wars: A G. I. Joe Anthology

Are you certain these are truly spec-fic stories and not just war/action/thriller stories with no spec-fic content? Mhhutchins 02:18, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

It is borderline at most. But you do have day-after-tomorrow tech and villains out to take over the world. It is at least as spec-fic as say Batman or Man from U.N.C.L.E. I won't be bothered if you reject it though.Don Erikson 17:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

My personal interpretation of the policy wouldn't allow such books, but in borderline cases, I err on the side of inclusion. I'll accept the submission. Mhhutchins 18:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Clans of the Alphane Moon

Found a signature on the cover of [this]. Meltzer is on the gun running bottom up just left of the index finger. Very hard to see as the lettering is almost the same colour as the background. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Good eye. I knew it was Meltzer by the style but I had no proof. Even went over it with my linen counter (a fold-able magnifier original used on fabric to do thread counts, available at any art supply store).Don Erikson 18:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Cults of Horror

Can you confirm that Dozois' story in this anthology credits his middle initial (on the title page of the story itself)? By this point he'd stopped using the middle initial. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 15:55, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

The same question for the Dozois story in this anthology. Mhhutchins 16:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

There are no Rs in either book. TOC or story page.Don Erikson 18:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

The Haven by Diamond

The cover you uploaded for this record shows the author credited with his full name. How is it credited on the title page? Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 18:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I missed that. It is Graham Diamond on the title page, copyright page & page headers. But strangly the spine just says Diamond. After some searching "G. R. Diamond" doesn't appear anywhere, not WorldCat, not ABE, not even Google. My guess this pseudonym doesn't exist.Don Erikson 18:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Good. I'll fix the credit and the pseudonym will be automatically deleted from the db. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Cover image for Clans of the Alphane Moon

Hello, Don! I saw that you uploaded an image for the Peter Jones cover. Instead of taking up the work of scanning and uploading you could just have used the link to this image. They seem to be identical. Just an idea, of course. Stonecreek 19:11, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

It's easier for me to just scan them. Takes about 30 seconds each & I automate the resizing and compression in batches of 20 to 30. Easier than hunting and comparing each cover.Don Erikson 00:22, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Not being able to add publication

I poked around a little. I don't know if this is what happened to you, but you can't add a publication from a shortfiction bibliography (e.g., from here), but you can add it from the chapterbook bibliography (e.g., from here). --MartyD 02:00, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

That's exactly what I did.Don Erikson 18:22, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

The Animal People

Hi, quick question in re your verified 192893. Could you please checj the bottom of the last page, it might have the code of type "XX-XX" corresponding to the month and year of the publication. If none is present, could you please set the pub date to unknown (0000-00-00) by isfdb standard. I've left the same message with the other PV. Thank you, ForJohnScalzi 07:26, 26 April 2013 (UTC).

it is fixed now.Don Erikson 19:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

So there was no gutter code :( Thank you, ForJohnScalzi 00:14, 29 April 2013 (UTC).

Devils & Demons

I rejected your submission to create a clone of this record because it appears to be identical to the one already in the db. If your printing appears without a gutter code, that should be noted in the note field of the current record. We only create a new record for a SFBC printing if it's a new edition or if the ID number has changed. Changes in gutter codes are noted only. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

That's what I thought I did. Must have been another book. Fixed now.Don Erikson 19:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Sambuka Black

According to Amazon this softcover edition is 8.6 inches tall making its format "tp". Mhhutchins 23:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

My copy is 6.5" by 4.25". Either Amazon is wrong our there's another version of this.Don Erikson 19:31, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Must be. Be sure to do a primary verification of this record so that someone won't come along and change the format based on the Amazon listing. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. It is done.Don Erikson 20:31, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

George Allen & Unwin / Houghton Mifflin

I'm holding two submissions that give the publisher as "George Allen & Unwin / Houghton Mifflin". This indicates according to ISFDB standards that "George Allen & Unwin" is an imprint of "Houghton Mifflin" which I don't believe it ever was. If both publishers' names are given on the title page, the publisher field can be entered as "George Allen & Unwin and Houghton Mifflin". We usually use the "&" to indicate joint publication by two different publishers instead of a slash (which indicates an imprint / publisher relationship), e.g. Donald M. Grant & Scribner and Ursus Imprints & Mark V. Ziesing. But in this case, it would look strange because the "&" was already used as part of one of the publisher's name. Let me know how the publishers are credited and I'll accept the submission and update the record. Mhhutchins 23:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

It appears as:

London: George Allen & Unwin LTD

Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company

one line above the other on the title page.Don Erikson 19:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll accept the submissions and change the publisher field. Mhhutchins 20:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

A. Merrit's [The] Face in the Abyss

I just picked up a copy of this printing of Merrit's The Face in the Abyss. However, it appears that the title of this printing drops the article "The" from the title. I just wanted to check to ensure we do indeed have the same edition and to make sure you would be OK with my unmerging and making this copy into a variant title. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 21:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I was relatively new at verifying then. Now I wouldn't have. Yes, I have no problem with unmerging it.Don Erikson 18:50, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Cover for The Infinity Concerto

Hello, Don. May I ask you to take a look if the image for your verified publication does resemble the one for this? If so, I could variant them. Thanks, Christian (Stonecreek 16:51, 29 April 2013 (UTC))

The only differences in the covers are that the Berkley one has a logo in the lower left and of course different ISBN & price and imprint name vertically upper left. I thought I scanned this one, I guess not. I'll put in my scan pile and it should be up in a few days.Don Erikson 18:57, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! In varianting the titles only the cover art is meant, though the actual cover image may differ (for example just abother price or some kind of imposed sticker). In that regard, please take all the time you need for uploading. Stonecreek 16:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Pillars of Eternity

Two primary verifications for the same [pub]? Making sure??¿¿?? ;-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't get your point. Were there 2 verifications by me and it was changed or...? I do sometimes get distracted and then catch myself from doing a second verification.Don Erikson 19:10, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, there were, but in rechecking, one was gone the same day I left the note. Thought you had done the removal as with the new changes no-one else can. ??¿¿?? --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:55, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I guess it was me. I vaguely remember doing something like that. Don Erikson 16:39, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Caliban Cove

You should remove the "[This Publication Record]" from this record's note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

It is done.Don Erikson 19:11, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Thirteen French SF Stories

Hi, Don. Putting your artist recognition to a test! There seem to be initials on the cover of [this], just below and right of the foreground figure's left foot. Looks like a 'W' and something else, but I can't recognize the squiggle. Any ideas? --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:53, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I originally thought this was George Ziel but I couldn't find any evidence to support it. But it turns out to be Lou Glanzman (initials GSL). Several web sites say it is him, but is that enough? I'll leave a note if it's not.Don Erikson 17:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

That's fine by me. Add the artist, just cite the best source. Good sleuthing! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Ragtime

I accepted the submission updating this record but see that the ISBN you changed is now an invalid number. Please check to see if the number agrees with your copy. If it does, check in different areas of the book, on the copyright page, spine or back cover, to see if a different (valid) ISBN is present. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I guess I can't blame this one on my broken glasses or a typo, but it's fixed now.Don Erikson 16:16, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

The Death Master

My copy of [this] is CDN, so the PV1 slot is now vacant. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:41, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Likewise for [Fantastic Voyage] --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:54, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Also [Moons of Jupiter] --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

And [Tales of the Black Widowers] --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:28, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

And another [All The Colors of Darkness] --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Another [THX 1138] --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:27, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

One more [Interstellar Empire] --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:20, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Nongenre contents in nongenre collection

I've had to reject the submission to clone a record of The Return of Sherlock Holmes for the same reason that I rejected a similar submission for The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes a few days ago (perhaps you weren't aware that it had been rejected.) You added content records for the non-spec-fic mystery stories that are contained in the collection. We can accept a submission for a nongenre publication, but not one that contains contents which are nongenre. The non-spec-fic books by Doyle are eligible for inclusion because he is "above the threshold", but we don't have a way to handle non-spec-fic SHORTFICTION by such authors. At the moment the only way to record such stories is to list them in the Note field of the publication record. For example, the way it is handled in this collection of non-spec-fic mystery stories by another "above the threshold" author, Fredric Brown. Mhhutchins 20:48, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

(The) House on the Strand

Can you confirm the title as given on this book's title page? Mhhutchins 21:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

It is "The" on the cover, spine and title page.Don Erikson 15:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Make a submission to correct the title field of the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

13 Great Stories

There may be a date in [this]. Just picked up the printing just before it [T2174] and on the last page of text there is a code 69-12-4, which I'll use as year/month/printing#. Could be a similar code in your printing? Left same message on Willem's page. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:43, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

No, there is no date, or any other indication of the date.Don Erikson 00:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Deryni Challenge

Deryni Challenge is in the title series "Crossroads Adventure". As per this discussion, I'm turning it into a publication series. Darkday 22:57, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

The next step would be to set the series of the title record to the proper value. However I can't judge if it should be Deryni or Deryni Universe. Do you know? Thanks, Darkday 21:35, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

A Glow of Candles

Added an image and notes [there were none] to [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I--Alien

Hello, I've changed the title of this pub from _I, Alien_ to _I--Alien_ as per title page. Hope you'll agree. Hauck 12:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Cover art credit for Mistress of Mistresses

I've accepted the submission to add the uncredited cover artist to this record based n a visible signature. It is ISFDB etiquette to discuss this kind of edit with the active verifying editors before making a submission to update a primary-verified record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:48, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

12 Great Classics of Science Fiction

I added the month of publication and a note to this pub. There's a date code on page 192. --Willem H. 19:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Artist recognition test #2

On the cover of [Unicorns!], bottom left on the dark brown corner, there are symbols/initials[?] in red that I can't make head or tail of. Any ideas? --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

I can't decipher this but here's, with a little Photoshop magic, a more readable image and a mirror image in case it was originally reversed [1].Don Erikson 22:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Rats!! Interesting signature, whoever it is. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:29, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Alien Worlds

PV1 spot open [here]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

And [here]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

One [more]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Sixth OMNI Book of SF

Scanned in an image for [this] and identified the artist from an old OMNI magazine [noted]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:21, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

The Early Asimov

Think I have the same edition as [this], at least the price/catalog# are the same. But on the copyright page there are two dates, one for the Book CLub Edition and under the Printed in the US statement is "June 1974". I know that's the date for the first printing, not this one, but the notes for the linked record state there are no dates. Can you double-check? Thanks. --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:47, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I read it as there was no date for this printing. I see it's a little unclear. I will fix it.Don Erikson 21:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Don, just didn't want to create an unnecessary duplicate record. --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:36, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The Atlantic Abomination

Turns out there are two different printings with the same Ace catalog #, [1] and [2]. Have explained the differences in the notes. Not sure which one you have [or, oh joy, maybe a third printing!!] It is Ace, after all! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 13:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Mine turns out to be a type "B", but I verified the "A". I changed it the to the right one.Don Erikson 17:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Please read the message left on my user page

Here. That page, as is explicitly stated there, is only to inform me that you've added notes or a link to a cover image. All other messages should be made on my regular talk page. This request is neither arbitrary nor capricious. I'm only informed when changes are made to my talk page, not to this notification page. Mhhutchins 01:49, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

The Lovers

Have your clone on hold for the moment. Asked Willem to clarify the existing record. Discussion [here]. I don't know if this will alter your submission? The clone retained the same date ... --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Tunnel in the Sky

Another set of 'twins', [1] and [2]. Difference is in the notes. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

It seems I have a third twin. The ads in the back of mine are; 1. with no number "more Ace Science Fiction Specials" 2.with no number "Jack Vance's Great New World Series; Planet of Adventure" & 3. numbered 17A "10 Novels By Robert E. Heinlein". This is different than the other two, right?Don Erikson 21:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, indeed! Your copy would be between the two already found. 17A was first used in Dec. '71 and the two other numbered ads 32/33 in the later printing started in Apr/May '72 so your printing is between those dates. I knew this was going to come up. Always thought it very strange that when Heinlein was being printed by Signet there were lots of printings, but with Ace there was a huge gap [4 years in most cases] between the first set of 11 titles and their [supposed] second printings. This won't be the last set of twins/triplets found, I'm sure. Good thing I don't have any hair left ... if there are any quadruplets out there .... oy ... ;-)) I would bet your printing would have been in '71 as Ace had transitioned into all numbered ads by '72. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:22, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

And another wrinkle. You have 17A with 10 novels? not 11? I've found two 17s, one with 6 and one with 10 but haven't [until now] known of a 17A with 10. If that's the case then your printing would be earlier in '71. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Would it be possible for you to email me with a scan of the ad 17A? Like to add it to the files I have. You may have one of only a very few printings it appeared in as 17 [with 10 Heinleins] was in use from June '71 to Nov'71 and 17A [with 11 Heinleins] first appeared in December '71, which leaves a window of maybe six weeks for this ad to have appeared and disappeared. Higher resolution is fine [250-300 dpi]. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The Sword Smith

Hi, I'm about to change the cover artist of this publication from "A. Echenammia" to "Abe Echevarria", based on the same signature occurring on the cover of The Soul of the Robot (also Condor 1978) and in Ian Summers' Tomorrow and Beyond, where it is attributed to Abe Echevarria. Horzel 20:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

After a closer look, I agree with the change.Don Erikson 20:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

And All the Stars a Stage

Replaced the amazon scan and dated [this] from an ad in the back. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

U. O. F. Ho-Ho

Can you confirm the title of this record as given on the book's title page? It's UFO Ho! Ho! according to the OCLC record. Also, please check the ISBN, Belmont's assigned ISBNs stated with 0-505, and the OCLC record doesn't give an ISBN. Is the number you've given derived from a catalog number? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Boy did I screw this one up. First the title, transposed letters. Took the title spelling from cover and spine, only glanced at the title page to check if second "h" was capitalized. The number on the spine, 508-50940-095, was used to construct an ISBN so I went with a catalog number instead as I should have originally. I fixed everything, I hope. BTW I check WorldCat and they have no record of this book. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Don Erikson (talk • contribs) .

If OCLC had no record, how could I have used them as a source for the wrongly entered title and ISBN number? See this record? Mhhutchins 20:26, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

OCLC and WorldCat are two different things aren't they? It's my understanding that just because a publisher sends a copy to the LOC doesn't mean they retain a copy that would appear on WordCat which record actual library holdings. There are stories of the LOC dump bails of magazine & comic books without even removing them from the original shipping packing.Don Erikson 00:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

OCLC and WorldCat are essentially the same thing. OCLC ("Online Computer Library Center") is the non-profit organization and WorldCat is the name of their database. If you click on the "WorldCat" link on any ISBNed record in the ISFDB, it will take you to the OCLC WorldCat database record. OCLC Worldcat is not part of the Library of Congress and its cataloging system. It maintains a separate database whose records are created by member libraries (or their librarians) from all over the world. Mhhutchins 00:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

To change a publication date to unknown ...

... isn't recommendable unless you have a source for that step. Do you have any source for the stated 1974 publication of Nine Strange Stories? Sorry for stepping in, but you didn't state any reason in your submission, so I have put it on hold. Stonecreek 18:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I guess should have left a note for the moderator. My copy, that I cloned from the above, is a 1st printing with the copyright date of 1974 and a completely different cover. This makes this book a later reprint of unknown date. I should have been more clear.Don Erikson 00:51, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

It would have been better to have just updated the record that was already in the database, because, except for the cover art, it matched exactly your copy. Keep in mind that images linked from Amazon shouldn't be used to determine if the record is for your printing. They often "update" their listings giving the cover for a new printing even if it doesn't match the older printing. And since the record hadn't been primary verified, it would have been perfectly OK to just link the proper cover image to the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I see your point. I assumed (there's that word again) that the cover image and the book entered were directly matched. I have the book in my to-scan pile and will update the original entry.Don Erikson 16:47, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I am afraid Stonecreek's last edit has been lost since it collided with a Wiki purge process last night. Ahasuerus 06:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

P.S. This collision caused a further problem with the underlying Wiki data, so every time you edit this page, you will see an "SQL error". Your edit should take effect, though, so you can ignore the error for now. I will see if I can fix the Wiki data. Ahasuerus 06:48, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I think we got your Talk page fixed, Don. Knock on wood... Ahasuerus 01:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

No Blade of Grass

PV1 spot vacated for [this] edition. --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Also for [this] one. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

And [this] one. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

One [more]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

And [another]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

One more [here]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

ISBN on Voice of the Smoking Mirror

Hi. Would you do me a favor and double-check the ISBN on Voice of the Smoking Mirror? The submission is complaining of a bad checksum. I haven't been able to find an online listing giving the ISBN, so I'm not sure what might be wrong about it. Thanks. --MartyD 21:43, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

From the spine: 0-532-19271-1. The ISBN doesn't appear anywhere else on the book. The book does exist though, I'm holding it in my hand. And every reference to this title on Google points to the copy I bought.Don Erikson 19:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, wasn't doubting its existence. :-) I couldn't find another source of an ISBN. That one's invalid (should end in 0 or start with 1). But it is what it is. Thanks for double-checking. --MartyD 21:42, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I accepted the submission and added a note that the ISBN is as stated on the spine, to keep someone else from wondering. --MartyD 21:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Siege Perilous

Two Primary verifications?? [?¿?] --~ Bill, Bluesman 13:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm surprised there are not a lot more of these. I fixed it.Don Erikson 18:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

PV1 spot[s]

Open [here]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

And [here]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:12, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

One [more]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Another [here]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:37, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Tactics of Mistake

Is the image shown in [this] record the right one? I know the artwork is correct but the Ace slug-line on the image shows a full ISBN and a CDN price, though it's too grainy to read. Could [this] be the correct image? Thanks for checking. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes the 2rd one is the correct one.Don Erikson 21:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Changed the image. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Ringworld

Replaced the amazon image with a scan and added some notes to [this]. Maybe you can make out the signature, if it is one ...? --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:13, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

No, there just no enough there. But it is Sternbach. He is credited on the dj of this book [2] and all the del Rey printings from 8th to 11th.Don Erikson 21:37, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy cover artist

I have on hold a submission from a new editor that would add "Peter Cross" as the cover artist on your verified 13th Pocket Books printing, with no explanation. There's no cover image on the entry, so I can't guess. My own 27th printing credits Peter Cross, but © 1985. On the other hand, the artwork looks just like that on this verified 1980 SFBC edition. What do you think? --MartyD 13:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

It is the same art as the others. I will scan the cover shortly. Don Erikson 18:38, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I accepted the submission giving Peter Cross credit. --MartyD 22:51, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Gordon R. Dickson's Guided Tour

You verified this pub containing Guided Tour and this pub containing The Guided Tour. I believe these are the same poem. The notes to the second pub have the title as "Guided Tour", where as the contents have "The Guided Tour". If these are the same and the second title does indeed have the "The", the second should be varianted to the first. If they are the same, and the second doesn't have the "The", they can be merged, keeping the non-"The" title. If they aren't the same poem, would you mind adding a note to that affect (avoids additional questions down the road). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:27, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

It looks like I and the other verifiers missed that there is no THE in the title as it appears in FORWARD! I checked both books and the original F&SF publishing and none contain a THE. Also the verified Canadian printing entry of FORWARD! has it THEless.Don Erikson 16:18, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I merged it to the THE-less version and notified the other two verifiers. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Cover art credit for Stories of Suspense

I've added cover art credit to this record, sourcing the artist's website. Mhhutchins 16:50, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

The Mindwarpers - Added Cover

I added a cover from my copy in hand of your verified pub The Mindwarpers. - Thanks Kevin 16:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Merge / Variant Candidates

The following are possible merge / variant candidates where you have verified publications containing both works:

• Basil Copper's Amber Print and Amber Print (possible merge)
• Harlan Ellison's !!!The!!Teddy!Crazy!!Show!!! and !!!The!!!Teddy!!!Crazy!!!Show!!! (possible variant)

Would you please check these and resolve (merge, variant, or add notes about differences as applicable)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

The Ellison story "!!!The!!Teddy!Crazy!!Show!!!" appears this way in both books. I'm gonna blame this one on my eyesight. The Copper story though is going to have to wait as it seems I have mis-shelved the books.Don Erikson 19:15, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Since the title and author credits for the Copper story are identical, there's no need to check. I'll simply merge the records. There was no need to question this merge. Mhhutchins 00:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

The dates were not the same. Since it's not uncommon for a story to be modified in later publications (or even a title to be reused), there is certainly reason to check with a common verifier if the titles were left different for a reason. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:48, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Using that rationale, the only merges allowed would be those for which an editor has compared the texts of both records and can confirm that they're the same stories. That's not going to happen. Revisions of a story's text should not be used to create variants. Only changes in story title or author credit are varianted. A SHORTFICTION-typed title record should be merged with one that has the same author and title, regardless of the dates of the records. You will find titles that have been disambiguated as "X (revised)". But that is nonstandard, and should be discouraged unless there are special circumstances that would make it qualify as an exception to the standard. Mhhutchins 03:42, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I never said that text revisions should be varianted; nor did I say that they should be disambiguated. The ISFDB standard practice is to add notes to the title field that two versions are not the same (though the extent of the change required to call it a new version verifies - some minor differences are merged with a note in the merged version, some aren't). I also never said that merges should only happen after editors compare the text. Many times, it is easy to figure out it is a reprint and just merge. However, when an experienced editor has verified multiple publications containing the same unmerged TITLE / AUTHOR combination, I give them the courtesy of asking. Many time they simply forgot, but in a number of cases, it was intentional & they've gone back and added notes. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Who?

I made a small change to the note about the cover artist in Who?. It used to read "Cover painting credited to Engle on the back cover; front cover is also signed". --Willem H. 11:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

One Hand Clapping

Hello, Don! Have you read this novel by Anthony Burgess or do you have some knowledge about its possible speculative content? I thought that I have read somewhere a passage about it that would qualify this title for the ISFDB, but can't remember where. Background for this question is this discussion that also might be of interest to you. Stonecreek 14:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Shadow - Go Mad

Reginald1 and SFE3 have this book credited to Maxwell Grant, not Walter B. Gibson. (It was ghost-written by Dennis Lynds according to both sources.) Can you re-check your copy? Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:42, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I know little about who's who concerning the Shadow authors, so I just went with what the title page says. The copyright is dated 1966 by Conde Nast. I hope that gives you enough to decide who wrote it.Don Erikson 19:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that is ISFDB policy. Only record credit from the title page. It is not the responsibility of the ISFDB editor (or moderators) to determine who wrote it. We are only tasked to record who is credited in the book. Are you saying that Walter B. Gibson is credited as the author of this work on the book's title page? That's how you entered the record. Mhhutchins 23:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

ISBN in The Satanists

Can you confirm the ISBN as given in this record? That ISBN range belongs to another publisher. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:56, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

The ISBN is as it appears on the copyright page.Don Erikson 19:38, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

"The Kingdom of Fukkian", by A. Philo Mann

I added a WorldCat OCLC # to your verified publication. Chavey 23:04, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Orbit Unlimited by Anderson

Can you confirm that the ISBN given in this record is stated in the book? It seems that it was several years later that Pyramid began giving the ISBN in their books. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

The ISBN is on the copyright page.Don Erikson 19:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Can you check to see then if this later Pyramid edition has an ISBN instead or just a catalog number? Mhhutchins 01:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

You are right, there's an ISBN on the spine. I fixed it and added note of the Catalog number.Don Erikson 16:53, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Appointment with Yesterday/Tomorrow

Hi, can you please elaborate on the chosen title for this publication?--Dirk P Broer 21:48, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes the brain sees what it wants to see. Now only if I had a brain to see with... It is now fixed, can't say the same about me.Don Erikson 22:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Tomorrow the Stars

Could you tell me the dates given for previous printings in your [sixth]. I just picked up a ninth and the dates in it don't correspond to a single record [other than for the first]. None of the verified ones note a source for the dates, even your [third]. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bill, I'm back. Been sick, flu in the summer? Who'da thunk? All good now.

So according to the 6th pr. c'page:

1st 6/67 2nd 1/69 3rd 7/69 4th 1/70 5th 7/70 6th 11/70

The c'page of my 3rd printing agrees.Don Erikson 20:41, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Amazing. Not one, except the first, matches the printing history in the ninth! 2-4 have dates one month earlier and 5/6 one month later. I'll add the discrepancies in the notes. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:20, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

The Lad & the Lion

Hi, Don. Been having a little problem trying to sort out the Ace printings of the above. [This] one has a 1982 date but the logo on the cover wasn't used past October 1978 [if the image is correct] and the price was up to $2.25 by '82. I think your edition and mine are the same, mine has ads 15L and 16J, both of which were used only in 1977/78 [Ace switched to a three-digit ad code about the same time they changed the logo from the rounded 'a' to a pointed [like an arrowhead] one. Then again, they've done weirder stuff ... ! Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:00, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I guess I was relying on the Locus citation noted for the date. So if it is a (Wow 5 word 9 letters) mistake it was done previously. I am going to unverify this to avoid confusion. By the way there was some overlap in logos probably because it was cheaper to just reprint what the had. And anyway Ace used this logo (what I call it the tombstone) for years on all there books including some borderline stuff found here, like the 80's Ellison reprints..Don Erikson 20:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, seems like they reverted to the 'tombstone' logo for the Ellisons. No telling why as all the covers for them were new artwork, so not like they were Ace reprints/old stock. Curiouser and curiouser. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:41, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

A little more data! Found a copy of the printing Nimravus has and the interior is virtually identical [other than the copyright page which is much more extensive] but the best clue was in the Ace address on the title page. Ace moved from Ave. of the Americas to Park Ave. in Mar/Apr '78, so the one with the first address is earlier, probably in late 1977. The first book in the ad 15L came out in Jan '77 but the price of $1.95 didn't appear until much later in the same year. Narrows it down anyway. Have created an undated [record] for the earlier printing. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Doom Wind

I've had to reject your recent Doom Wind edit. The change was putting "Price in Canada C$" into the image field. I'd just move it to the notes field, but there is no price. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

It's fixed now.Don Erikson 23:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

"To the Haunted Mountains", by Ru Emerson

In your verified edition of this book, I moved the map from the notes to the contents, added the titles of the appendices to the note you had about them, and added the first note about it as a 1st edition/printing. Chavey 23:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

"Friends of the Horseclans II", ed. by Robert & Pamela Crippens

In your verified publication, the story Traitors was listed "by Susan Shwartz [as by Susan M. Shwartz ]", i.e. the story was entered into the contents with the author as "Susan M. Shwartz". But in fact, that story was listed in both the ToC and in the story title page as by "Susan Shwartz", so I corrected that error. (My guess is that it came from someone pulling in the contents from Locus, which doesn't care much about how the author is actually listed.) Chavey 03:54, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Adventures of the Stainless Steel Rat

I accepted your submission to add a fifth printing, but there was already one in the database. Does your copy have a stated publication date? Please compare the two records and determine if one should be deleted. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, mine states printing & date.Don Erikson 18:04, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Please add that information to your record's Note field to avoid someone thinking they're identical and deleting the non-dated one. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Will do.Don Erikson 18:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Ace The Stainless Steel Rat 2nd printing

I wonder if you have a later (?) printing of The Stainless Steel Rat. I have your note change on hold: The PV isn't likely to respond, but the cover image associated with the record shows "($3.75 Canada)" very clearly. Contrast with this one (and, likewise this one) showing "($3.95 Canada)" equally clearly. So I'm thinking the original note is correct and you have a different printing. I'm going to see if Bill Bluesman, who uploaded the $3.75 scan but didn't make himself a verifier, can shed any light on it. --MartyD 17:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

My mistake. If you cancel it I'll redo it.Don Erikson 18:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Done. Accepted the clone. Will you scan a matching cover, or would you rather I linked it to the better of those Amazon images? --MartyD 18:20, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

It's in my scan pile and should be in a day or two.Don Erikson 17:12, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

SF Hall of Fame

Approved the edit to add [this]. Is the ISBN correct? Comes up with a bad checksum. --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Same with [this] one. --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I mistook an 8 for a 3. Old eyes only get older.Don Erikson 19:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I hear you! Can't see you, but ..... ;-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:15, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Devils and Demons

I've held the submission that wants to add 2nd printing to the notes. What is the printing statement? I ask because this particular record is multiply verified [all secondary] but the sources are all for first printings, especially Reginald/Clute/Currey. I'm sure this was reprinted more than once with the same catalog#. Bantam usually would have "First [or Bantam] printing [or edition] / [Month], [year]" with '2nd printing, 3rd printing' etc below, sometimes with dates, sometimes without. Or were you trying to clone and hit edit instead?? --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

It say "2nd printing...February 1967". The problem is I didn't notice that the 1st printing was the same month according to the copyright page. I will clone one the 2nd printing. Also you may like check out the Help section for a question about this title.Don Erikson 00:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Think I had noticed that but didn't think anything of it. Probably gets into some esoteric corner of the software that this old mind dare not go. Just know I can't fix it. --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Primary and Primary2 Verification

Perhaps you mistakenly verified this record twice? Mhhutchins 20:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Fixed this.Don Erikson 02:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers

Did you intend to create this record by cloning a record you had primary verified? Perhaps you meant to update the latter instead of creating a new record? Mhhutchins 20:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I did not mean to clone this. Boy I guess there were to many distractions today. Or maybe it's just me.Don Erikson 02:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Bad cover image link

You linked the image for Whispers IV to this record for Whispers III. Mhhutchins 20:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Fixed it.Don Erikson 02:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

The Memoirs of Jesus Christ

Is there anything speculative about this novel, other than it being a fictional account of the life of Christ? In other words, do we find out he's an alien? :) Mhhutchins 00:03, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

It is the memoir of a post-crusifixion Jesus hiding from his followers to keep from upsetting the resurrection story. How fantastic it is depends on your viewpoint. But it's borderline at best either way.Don Erikson 00:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Interesting take. I'll accept the submission. Mhhutchins 03:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Man Who Upset the Universe

Added the artist to [this]. Schulz' initials are on the cover, about a cm. left of 'Unabridged'. --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:25, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Best of Planet Stories #1

Added the artist to [this], Contento had Freas credited but to be sure I emailed Freas' agent and he confirmed the credit is valid. --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

SF Stories, May 1958

Is the piece by Asimov on page 122 of this issue a letter? Mhhutchins 20:14, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I have fixed it.Don Erikson 20:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The Silver Stallion

I've added the subtitle to Cabell's The Silver Stallion: A Comedy of Redemption, as it appears on the title page. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 02:01, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Also Something About Eve: A Comedy of Fig-Leaves. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 02:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

The Temple of the Ten

I added contents for the illustrations and the introduction to Bedford-Jones & Robertson's The Temple of the Ten. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 15:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

The Best Horror of the Year: Volume Three

Mr. Erikson: I added the OCLC link to The Best Horror of the Year: Volume Three. MLB 23:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

The Presence

Would your copy of [this] be a US or CDN printing? I just picked up a CDN one but don't want to create another record if yours is also. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:06, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Mine is printed in the US.Don Erikson 18:19, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Astounding Stories Yearbook 1970

Why did you add a new interiorart record ("Cities of Tomorrow" by Julian S. Krupa) in this record, but mark the identical one which was already in the record as "NA"? Mhhutchins 18:59, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I was following the instructions in the Help file to mark it to "Remove Title" after approval. The art is on the back cover and there's an essay about it on page 2. Don Erikson 19:05, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

That wasn't necessary. All you had to do was change the page number. Now the extra record will have to be removed and deleted from the database. That Help section is used when you're unable to make changes in the AUTHOR or TITLE fields of a content because it's is "greyed" out, meaning it appears in another publication. Changing the page number doesn't affect the AUTHOR or TITLE fields. I'll make the necessary submissions to clean up the record. Mhhutchins 19:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

What the original idea was, was to change INTERIORART to ESSAY. If I just thought about it...Don Erikson 16:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Science Fiction Classics Annual

Perhaps you were unable to find this record in the database. Sorry that you went to the trouble to create a new record. Please cancel the submission in the queue, then update and verify the current record. Mhhutchins 21:18, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

But, but, but... I searched 3 titles and none came up with this. Crap.Don Erikson 03:58, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I found it using the simple search form (the one on every ISFDB page) by entering "Science Fiction Classics Annual" and choosing MAGAZINE. Didn't even have to go to the Advanced search. Mhhutchins 04:35, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Science Fiction Classics, Fall 1968

Hello, Don! I have put your submission for adding an item to this magazine on hold. You seemingly have forgotten to choose INTERIORART, so that Wesso's 'The Steam God [4]' will be added as SHORTFICTION. I may be in error or right, but let me know which of both it is. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 17:27, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

In error it is. Don Erikson 17:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I will accept the submission and correct the type of the item. Thanks, Stonecreek 17:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Thrilling Science Fiction, Spring 1971

I'm holding the submission to change the credit for five pieces of uncredited interior art in this publication. Are these pieces explicitly credited or are the changes based on visible artists' signatures? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 05:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I sourced the the entries of the original publications from which the stories and art appeared.Don Erikson 14:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll accept the submission. Please update the record to give your source for the credits. Mhhutchins 15:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

3rd printing of The Green Hills of Earth

I'm holding a submission to create a new publication record for this printing, because there is already on in the database. Is there any substantial difference between your copy and this one? Mhhutchins 19:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

This is interesting. When I searched for this book it seems I used the page for the short story by this title. That page should have all the appearances of that title. But this printing doesn't appear on that page even though all the other book printings that I checked do. So no, this isn't a new entry and I cancelled it.Don Erikson 20:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

You should have searched by the book title, not a content title. There's a reason why you couldn't find it by searching for the content story. The publication record had no contents, regardless of the fact that it's primary verified (a no-no in my opinion). I'll import the contents after you've updated the record. Mhhutchins 20:06, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Bester's Extro

Added a cover art credit for your verified Extro, via Chris Moore's book Journeyman. PeteYoung 11:43, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

ISBNs on The Bat Staffel and Ace of the White Death

Would you check the ISBN for The Bat Staffel? Your submission has it as "0-425-1734-6", which is missing a digit somewhere (if it's an ISBN). I tried adding a check digit, but that result brings up no hits on Google or Amazon, so I don't think that' it. I've left the submission on hold as a reminder to myself. Thanks. --MartyD 11:53, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Likewise, "0-425-1764-8" on Ace of the White Death. Thanks. --MartyD 12:03, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

These should be 0-425-01734-6 & 0-425-10764-8. These are from the SBNs on the copyright page.Don Erikson 19:24, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Added the missing 0s and your note about the source. --MartyD 23:43, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers 1977 Orbit

I've added a cover scan of my copy and a couple of notes based on my copy to: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263061Prof beard 15:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

The Coming of the Robots

I've done a second PV of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301149 You commented that the artist was in your opinion Don Ivan Puncharz - my copy has this confirmed on the back cover - I thought I'd check before changing the notes and adding the artist? Prof beard 20:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

you are correct, I missed it. Go ahead and change it.Don Erikson 20:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Caidin's A Torch in the Sky

Can you confirm the title of this record? I can find no corroborating evidence for this title. Mhhutchins 22:33, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I've done some stupid things but...oh man. I'll fix it.Don Erikson 22:35, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

If you change a publication record's title, you'll also have to change its title record's title. And I still can't find any hits for this ISBN. Not on Amazon, Abebooks, OCLC, etc? Mhhutchins 22:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I fixed the title data & made a note that the ISBN is derived from the SBN on the copyright page. Should I not do that and just use a catalog number?Don Erikson 22:43, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

It's OK to derive an ISBN from the SBN, if the number is actually an SBN, and not just a catalog number. Some editors try to create an ISBN from the catalog number, but it is not a standard (or shouldn't be, in my opinion.) What is the exact wording on the copyright page? Mhhutchins 22:54, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

It says "SBN 345-23754-4-125" so I was pretty confident.Don Erikson 23:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Yep, that's close enough to an ISBN to be recorded as one in the record. Mhhutchins 00:02, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Heinlein: Tunnel in the Sky

Hi, Don. Michael dropped me a note that you had added the last line in the notes for [this] pub. Was the note meant to reference [this] earlier printing? If so the ad numbers don't jive [17/17A]. If not then I need to change the notes for existing printings of this particular Ace # to indicate that there are four printings using it, not three. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

My bad. I'll fix it.

Crispan Magicker

I added some words to the notes for Crispan Magicker. Bob 20:12, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Crispan Magicker

I added some words to the notes and a cover scan for Crispan Magicker. Bob 20:13, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

The Mountain King

Can you confirm the publisher as given in this record? Does it give Berkley Medallion on the title page? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 16:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I seemed to have mis-shelved this book. The cover does say only Berkley but has the Berkley Medallion logo. If you think this needs changing I'll accept your judgement.Don Erikson 19:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

That's the problem. This was a transitional period, when some printings replaced "Berkley Medallion" with "A Berkley Book", but kept the fleur de lis logo of BM, and not the later stylized "SF" logo of Berkley Books science fiction releases. This book was late in the year when most of the printings had already changed both the imprint and the logo. I'll leave it be for now. Mhhutchins 21:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

High Deryni

I added a cover scan and some words to the notes for High Deryni. Bob 21:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Canadian price on Sundrinker

I accepted your added note to Sundrinker, but it just says "C$" with no price. --MartyD 21:23, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Fixed.Don Erikson 16:03, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The Blessing Papers

I added a cover scan and words to the notes for The Blessing Papers. Bob 20:32, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Imram

I added a cover scan and words to the notes of Imram, and similar words to the notes for The Sigma Curve. Bob 20:42, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

The Future in Question

Please take over the Primary 1 slot for this record. Turns out my copy is a second printing. Please confirm that the other data fields are correct, because when I created the record it was from my second printing. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:59, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Celestial Hit List

I have your proposed change to this pub on hold since something appears to the off. The Notes field currently says "Third printing", which your submission would change to "Stated 1st printing as per number line". However, the price of this 1989-08 pub is $3.95 while we also have another record published in 1988-11 whose price is $3.50, so it's unlikely to be a first printing. I wonder if you may have meant to update the other record? Ahasuerus 20:52, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I put in my ready-made DAW book note and meant to change the 1st to 3rd. Just cancel it and I'll redo it.Don Erikson 20:56, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Done! Ahasuerus 21:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

The Road to Science Fiction #2: From Wells to Heinlein

Please see this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 00:55, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Fantasy Annual III

I updated the publication date of Carr's Fantasy Annual III per this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 23:57, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Conjunctions 39

You and Fsfo have verified separate publications of Conjunctions 39: yours, Fsfo's. These publications have the same ISBN, price, & page count and similar content, but different subtitles and editors. Would you mind checking with Fsfo to see if these are the same publication with database discrepancies or if it's truly two different versions? I will post this at Fsfo's talk page as well. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Bradford Morrow is in fact listed as the editor (of the whole Conjunctions series, apparently; Peter Straub is the actual editor of this volume, listed as "Guest Editor"), I guess I didn't know how to handle this when I entered the publication. The subtitle is consistently "the New Wave Fabulists" in my publication (see also image). Fsfo 22:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I would agree with Fsfo that Straub should be listed as the editor, since his is the name on the title page. Morrow is pretty clearly the series editor. I would agree with Don that the contents should include the two extra entries, for the interior art and for the Guest Editor's note, that he has listed. I have added a couple of "Notes" to Fsfo's record of this publication, on the date and on the interior art, that I think are appropriate, but I did not add those two content items. There's an oddity in how the semi-colon should be shown in the publication name. Using our normal ":" to separate parts of the title, our standards would probably require it to be "Conjunctions:39: The New Wave Fabulists", but that looks weird. Chavey 09:59, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to remove my entry as a duplicate. If you want I'll added the two items to the contents. And add Straub as a co-editor.Don Erikson 19:18, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I would encourage you to do so, then "Verify2" Fsfo's entry. (Then I'll "Verify3" it :-) ) Chavey 05:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Hounds of Dracula variant title

As I remarked in the rejection notice the first time I rejected the submission: you should first create a publication record for the edition titled Dracula's Dog. Once that has been accepted, make its title record into a variant of the original title record. Whenever I reject a submission, I always give a reason in the rejection notice, or direct the editor to a message on their talk page. In this case, I thought the rejection notice would suffice. Mhhutchins 20:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I forgot about the Rejected Edits page.Don Erikson 20:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I accepted the submission which used the CLONE function to create this record. But I should have rejected it because it was CLONED from a publication which had a different title. Now you can see it is under the wrong title record, and doesn't have its own title record, which means it can't be varianted. I'll correct the problem once you've seen it. In the future, don't use the CLONE or ADD PUBLICATION TO THIS TITLE function if the titles don't match. Just use one of the ADD NEW... functions when you're adding a publication which has a title not already in the database. That's what I meant by "create a publication record". Guess I should have been more specific. Mhhutchins 21:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Jeez, I'm such a dope sometimes. I apologize for the extra effort on your part. And add Straub as a co-editor.Don Erikson 22:39, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Forbin Project

I split the cover image you uploaded for this record, and then linked the stickered cover in the Note field. Mhhutchins 21:17, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Five Steps to Tomorrow

Hi, the cover art for this publication is the same as for Perry Rhodan #95 and is thus by Johnny Bruck. See also perry-rhodan.net. Could you perform the update? Thanks! Horzel 10:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I've updated the entry.Don Erikson 19:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Playboy Book of SF & F

I accepted the submission updating this record, adding the fifth bullet point to the Note field, but I have no idea what you meant by it. It looks like a list of similar Playboy genre anthologies. Mhhutchins 01:51, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

It was suppose to mention that this was also part of a box set. I seemed to have screwed up a cut and paste. I have fixed it now.Don Erikson 17:43, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Heroic Visions

Found a signature on the cover of [this]. Runs vertically along the right side of the figure with the scythe. I can make out the last name as 'Grant' but can't quite decode the first name. Any ideas? I didn't add the credit yet, hoping for a full name. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I can't help. I agree it probably is Grant, but it's just too unclear. The first name may be Mary and is there middle initial or is that the first letter of a last name? Maybe Salmonson herself could tell you, she has a Facebook page.Don Erikson 23:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Tiberius - Ernst Mason

Added LCCN and OCLC links plus some cover information to Tiberius.SFJuggler 07:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Cover credit for Fear

You added cover credit to this record, and give your source as an OCLC record. But I could find nothing in that record which credits the cover art of this entirely different publication. Mhhutchins 20:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

I just cancelled the other pending entries & this one should go to. Somewhere earlier today I mixed up some copy & paste concerning some Dillons' cover credits. I'll go back and double check any that may have gotten through.Don Erikson 20:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

In this "correction", the HTML is badly formed and the only thing displayed is "Cover artist credit from this web site". Please check your HTML. Mhhutchins 20:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Another case of bad HTML. Mhhutchins 20:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Guns of Darkness

Added notes and OCLC links to Guns of Darkness.SFJuggler 04:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

HTML problems

I copied the comments from above which I think you may have overlooked:

In this record, the HTML is badly formed and the only thing displayed is "Cover artist credit from this web site". Please check your HTML. Mhhutchins 20:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Another case of bad HTML. Mhhutchins 20:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I thought I had but now I have. My HTML skills are next to nothing.Don Erikson 22:12, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

The Survivors

I added the Gaughan interior illustration to The Survivors per this discussion. I also expanded the notes while I was in the record. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 03:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

The Cipher

Perhaps you overlooked the note that I added to this record asking to be notified if a copy with a complete number line appears. Can you confirm that your copy is not an advance reading copy and that it was for sale to the public? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:32, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

It's not an ARC, it has all the markings of a retail copy. Foil and die-cut cover, bar code and prices and when I had it signed by Koja she didn't mention anything about not being a regular edition (other authors I have had signed one usually say something). I have an ARC of her BAD BRAINS also and it has a black & white cover with no art. So I have no reason to believe this is anything but a 1st printing.Don Erikson 00:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

I'll accept the submission. In the future, please give consideration to any notes that previous editors may have placed in the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:05, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

"Leviathan's Deep", by Jayge Carr

I added some notes to your verified publication. Chavey 00:56, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

The Fortunes of Brak

Could you weigh in on this discussion regarding the artist credit for Jakes' The Fortunes of Brak. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 00:04, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Gold Star

Hi, Don! Have found a signature on the cover of [this]. It's behind the last part of the blurb "A Trace?" I can make out © and the letter 'm' and at the end '83. I think it may be the signature of Don Mattingly, but it's hard to tell. What do your eyes/magnifier see? --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Hey Bill. After looking at some Mattingly covers from the same period I completely agree with you. It seems that "M" is am L & Y with a faded tail. I'll added the credit and make a note. So you & yours have a happy Turkeyday.Don Erikson 19:08, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for checking and sleuthing! We Canucks have our Thanksgiving in October, the Yanks have their's in November. By now, at least at my place, we've had almost 2' of snow, so harvest is long past [the celebration of which is the reason for killing a turkey ... can't quite figure that one out ...........] ;-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Today it's in the low 50s and sunny. Around here that's shirt sleeve weather. When it gets cold enough to snow the cold air usually keeps the moisture off the Pacific at bay. By here I mean Portland OR. But it can be cold; in 2004 it got 10 degrees F. and some pipes burst when I wasn't home and did thousands in damage & I lost over a thousand books (mostly paperbacks).

Bummer! All my books are above the 'water line', though I once lost about 300 album covers for in-storage records. Some great Santana covers that are impossible to find. For some reason I always thought you were in a way different time-zone, like New Zealand ....??¿¿?? We're practically neighbors! [Alberta, Canada] Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Lukan War

Replaced amazon scan and added notes for your verified here. Hauck 13:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Cover art for The Fire in His Hands

Hello, Don! I have a submission by another hand on hold to drop the cover artist for this. The editor states "Just got back from a signing for Rowena Morrill and she said that this was not her work." Do you know where the statement of Morrill stems from? Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 09:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

It does look like Morrill, but taking a second look it probably Kevin Eugene Johnson. I will remove Morril and leave a note concerning Johnson.Don Erikson 18:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking that one up! I also added Paul Lehr as cover artist to Conquest's A World of Difference. I now think this to be evident; thank you for that hint. Stonecreek 09:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Nebula Winners Fifteen

Added a scan to [this] and found a signature on the cover. Covered in the notes. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:32, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Same signature is on the cover of [Nebula Awards Fourteen] A twofer!! ;-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Transmission Error

Hi. I have your proposed clone of Transmission Error on hold. It looks identical to this one, which I assume is the one you cloned. What's supposed to be different? I will fix it up a little to distinguish the two. Thanks. --MartyD 19:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I think I noted that this is the US printed edition.Don Erikson 19:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Indeed you did. Sorry, I missed it. Approved now. --MartyD 20:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

And All the Stars a Stage

User Horzel found the artist for this pub here. I added Enric to the record and adapted the notes. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Anvil of the Heart

Hello, I've added the Author's preface to your verified here, BTW I've also replaced the amazon scan for Rissa Kerguelen. Hauck 15:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

"The Princess of Flames", by Ru Emerson

The notes for your verified copy of this book list the Canadian price as $3.50. I have what claims to be a first printing, and is identical to this entry in all data, but lists the Canadian price as $3.75. Could you check your book and verify that this price is as shown, and not a typo? Thanks, Chavey 04:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

This my fault. I missed something and I will fix it. Thanx for the heads-up.Don Erikson 21:14, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

The Black Gryphon

I think you wanted to add the Canadian price to this pub, but forgot the amount. --Willem H. 19:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the catch. It's fixed.Don Erikson 19:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Way Out

Have replaced Amazon link with a scan of a verified copy http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54013 Prof beard 12:33, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Alternat Warriors

Have replaced the Amazon link with a scan of a verified copy in http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?2304Prof beard 14:34, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

The Best of Eric Frank Russell

Re:The Best of Eric Frank Russell Replacing Amazon image with one scanned from personal collection. Prof beard 15:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Serling's Triple W

I'm not sure that it would be appropriate to change the publication date of this second printing to the same month as the first printing, regardless of the source's statement. It's not likely that a second printing with a different (much higher) catalog number and a higher price would be printed in the same month, no matter how popular the title. Are you certain your source gives this date for the second printing? Mhhutchins 04:44, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Your right. I didn't catch that. The 5th printing's copyright page is most likely wrong. I've cancelled it. Thanks.Don Erikson 00:01, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Year's Finest Fantasy

Hi - I've replaced the Amazon image with a scan of my verified copy in Year's Finest Fantasy http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?55721 Prof beard 10:09, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Lacey and His Friends

Have replaced Amazon image with a scan of my verified copy in Lacey and His Friends http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19811 Prof beard 10:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

The Charwoman's Shadow

Have replaced Amazon link with a scan of my verified copy in The Charwoman's Shadow http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258117 Prof beard 12:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

The King of Elfland's Daughter

Have replaced Amazon link with a scan of my verified copy in The King of Elfland's Daughter http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258154 Prof beard 11:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror: Sixth Annual Collection

Have replaced the Amazon image with a scan in http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?292662 Prof beard 12:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

The Regulators

is the cover to The Regulators the same as http://johnjudepalencar.com/Regulators.htm -- and therefore the cover by Palencar? Susan O'Fearna 18:49, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes it is. I've added the credit and noted it's source. Thanks, good catch.Don Erikson 20:27, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Great Science Fiction Adventures

Have added a note regarding Tuck's listing to "Great Science Fiction Adventures" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15923 Prof beard 11:43, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Haunted Legends

I made the following changes to your verified Haunted Legends: added cover scan; expanded the notes; and changed the title of the introduction from "Introduction (Haunted Legends)" to "Saying Boo: Why We Like Ghost Stories" per its title on the essay page. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

wrong cover image

Hi, Don. Rejected the submission to add an image to [this]as the one uploaded was for a Steven Laws book, Spectre. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I picked some wrong tabs, clicked some wrong links, I thought I got them all. guess not. Thanx.Don Erikson 22:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

The Green Flash

Please confirm the data added to the price field of this record. It's unusual for a major publisher, unless it indicates a library binding. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 00:43, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Jeez I'm an idiot! Sometimes it is hard to tell a library edition when you don't have a trade printing to compare it to. Maybe the "Holt Library Edition" on the cover should have been a clue. I'm going remove any additions to this record and edit the Library edition instead.Don Erikson 19:18, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Double Full Moon Night by Gentry Lee

Please unverify as my copy has a full number line 10-1 and create a copy for your 2nd printing. Thanks--Teddybear 00:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Varianted cover art of The Comet Kings

It now appears on this page. Stonecreek 14:52, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Double Full Moon Night

I'm assuming this is a 2nd printing, but wouldn't the number line be incomplete? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the sloppiness, I've been gone from here for about a month, guess I'm rusty. I fixed it.Don Erikson 22:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Fifth US printing of Glory Road

Did you forget to change the 4th bullet note in this one to show that it was entirely printed in the US. Otherwise it's identical to the Canadian printing. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes I forgot. I fixed it.Don Erikson 23:29, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Not yet. Now both the 4th and the 5th bullets are identical in both records. I think you mean to say in the 4th that your copy of the book was printed in the US, and in the 5th that there is a Canadian fifth printing. Or am I totally confused? Mhhutchins 23:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I think I got it fixed now. Fingers crossed. Had just got home from donating blood (received my 8 gallon pin! Donate blood people, I can't do it all myself!).Don Erikson 01:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Great Science Fiction Adventures

Added the artist to [this], artwork was used previously [uncropped]. Link is in the notes, and you have the earlier version as well! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I knew I'd seen it before somewhere.Don Erikson 20:36, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Outlaws of the Moon

Added the artist to [this], it's taken from the German Perry Rhodan series, link is in the notes. Cheers! --John 14:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Epidemic!

Are you certain this title is speculative fiction? I can't find any description of it anywhere on the internet. Also, is the "MD" given on the title page? The OCLC, which records author credit on the title page like us, doesn't give it. (You're also one number short on the ISBN, but I can fix that if we decide its eligible for the database.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. I missed this posting initially. Anyway, besides being about fighting a world-wide plague, it takes place 7 years in the future of the copyright date. The M. D. does appear on the title page, cover , and spine but not the copyright page. The ISBN is 0-89083-644-2.Don Erikson 19:28, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Greetings from Earth

Corrected the artist for [this]. Even though the copyright page credited Neeley, Schleinkofer's signature is on the cover. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

The Death Tower

Added the artist to [this] from a signature, just above the "W" in Shadow. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Planet Savers/Sword of Aldones

Does the number line in [this] edition actually have '1' in it? I just picked up what seems to be an identical copy but the number line is 2 4 6 8 0 9 7 5 3. Same catalog #/price/etc. Thanks for checking! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:27, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Ahasuerus has confirmed that it does, so no need to look. --~ Bill, Bluesman 05:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

News from Elsewhere

The artist for [this] is Kelly Freas. Confirmed by email with Freas' agent who has the preliminary sketches but had no idea what book the artwork was used for. He's a happy camper! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The Fall of the Towers

There is a signature on the cover of [this] on the left foreground rock, but I don't recognize it. Any thoughts?? Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 05:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't recognize the signature. But it looks like someone who has talent and/or experience likely outside the genre market.Don Erikson 19:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, that certainly narrows it down ... ;-))) --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:47, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

The Futurological Congress edit

Don, your submission for The Futurological Congress didn't contain any changes (at least, not that the moderator screen showed). I accepted it anyway, but you may want to double-check that record. --MartyD 01:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I added a cover image.Don Erikson 18:14, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

ISBN check

Can you confirm that there is no ISBN-13 in this book? Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

There's a problem. I believe I was the originator of this entry and goofed up. This book is from 2006 not 2009 though all the other info is correct (including the 13 # ISBN). I will change the date. If this incorrect date is what caused you a problem this should fix it.Don Erikson 23:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Should the first note in it likewise be changed from 2009 to 2006? --MartyD 02:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I changed the note to match. --MartyD 11:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't look like it. The note still says the book was published December 2009. Mhhutchins 23:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Thieves' World

Hi - I noticed you verified this pub, but you didn't mention a two page uncredited piece called "A Few Remarks by Furtwan Coinpinch, Merchant", which appears on p.145 in my fifth printing, and which is not listed in the contents page. Could you check to see if it's in your edition? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 15:35, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it is there. I added it to the contents.Don Erikson 22:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

The Book of Robert E. Howard

I changed the designation of a piece of content for The Book of Robert E. Howard that you verified. Etchings in Ivory was designated as "shortfiction". It is a series of prose poems, so I suppose it could be classified as shortficition, but it is identical to three poetry collections with the same title. I reclassified it as "poem" and variented it to the collection. Several reviews had been attached to the "shortfiction"; I attached the reviews to the collection as well. If you have a problem with these changes, please let me know. Bob 20:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I got the same message, but instead I added the separate poems to the contents of my edition. I hope you can agree with this. You also verified the other edition of "The Book of Robert E. Howard". Shall I make the same changes to this edition? Thanks, --Willem H. 20:01, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

No answer yet, so I did as I suggested. Please check titles and/or pagenumbers if you agree. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Weird Tales #1, 3 and 4

I am making several changes to Weird Tales #1 as well as #3 and #4:

1. I'll be adding navigation links to the prior and subsequent issues of either the magazine or the anthologies in this series.
2. I'll be adding the missing cover for #4
3. I'll be adding records for the letters included in "The Eyrie"
4. I'll be adding the missing interior art records for "The Eyrie" and the masthead
5. I'll be changing the author of "The Eyrie" in 3 & 4 to "The Editor" as Carter isn't actually listed as the author. This would treat the column the same way it is treated in other issues of the magazine.
6. I'll be adding the page number for "The Eyrie" where it is missing in #3
7. I'll be adding the missing coming next issue essays.
8. The last change I'm contemplating is for #1. There certainly needs to be a record for "The Eyrie". I also noticed that Carter's editorial isn't actually titled. My thoughts are that the editorial is really a continuation of "The Eyrie". The column was traditionally a combined editorial and letters column and with the letters printed at the end of the current editorial it makes me think that the intent was for this to be a single column.

I'm going to proceed with these changes, but do let me know if you disagree. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 16:17, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Thieves' World maps

Are there maps by Jim Odbert in the first two publications of this title which you primary verified? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 00:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Michael asked a similar question on my talk page and I've verified the maps were there in that edition. I'm also going over my copies of the series, which I first did back when there was only 1 primary verifier. I'm adding the maps to this book along with a note about how the credit was derived. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 13:04, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Maps also added to this book. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 13:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I've made the same addition to one other book in this series: The Dead of Winter. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 13:29, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Improperly uploaded image file

This image was improperly uploaded. Instead of using the publication record link, it appears you used the direct upload link from the wiki. (Notice that it doesn't have a "fair use" license, it doesn't link back to the publication record, nor to the artist's page or wiki category, and its title doesn't match the publication record's tag.) Please go to the publication record and use the link "Upload new cover scan" and re-upload the image. This will provide all the missing data for the image. Once you've uploaded it, you will have to update the pub record with the new URL. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:11, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I fixed it I think.Don Erikson 22:49, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Honeymoon in Hell

Hi, the cover art for this Bantam edition is by Lou Glanzman, according to Louis S. Glanzman checklist in Illustration #19 (Summer 2007). Could you perform the update? (I remembered Louis S. Glanzman as preferred name, but I was wrong there). Horzel 14:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Done.Don Erikson 23:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Sphere ed. of Delany's Nova

Does 0722128916 appear as the ISBN on your copy of this book? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Same situation with another Sphere publication: Scars of Dracula with 0722142714. Mhhutchins 19:50, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

There is no real ISBN. Someone derived these from their 5-digit catalog number.Don Erikson 23:21, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Downtiming the Night Side

Can you check the cover art credit as stated in this publication? I have a suspicion that "Norma" and "Segrelles" are two different credits: one for his art agent and one for him (he's often credited as his last name only.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 21:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

That's what it says on the copyright page. According to the Vicente Segrelles web site his representative is the Norma Agency. This may be the source of the mistake (if it IS a mistake.) Don Erikson 23:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Is there a change of font between Norma and Segrelles? If not, I would suggest correcting the obvious error and change it to just Segrelles, noting the error. ISFDB standards allow the correction of obvious errors in cover art credit. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The name appears as if who ever set the type thought it was correct, same type etc. The is another Norma credit here [3]. Don Erikson 18:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I've already left a message on the talk page of that record's verifier. I think it would be best to note the bad credit, and change the cover art credit to just "Segrelles", but I'll let you verifiers decide that. Mhhutchins 19:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Final Assault

Hello, I've found the artist for your verified here. Hauck 17:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Fortress

Hello, the artist of this pub is in fact Ron Walotsky as per subsequent printing and credit in this book. Can you check your copy ? Thanks. Hauck 17:45, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The copyright page says Alan Gutierrez. Feel free to change it.Don Erikson 18:54, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I've made the changes. Hauck 19:29, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Kings of Infinite Space

Hi, I've added the cover artist to [http:/www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?194921 this book]: Cover art is identical with #214 of the German Perry Rhodan series: http://www.perrypedia.proc.org/wiki/Quelle:PR214 - JLochhas 21:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

World Jones Made

Scanned in an image for [this] and there's a signature on the artwork, just right of the face [eye-level], but I can't make it out. Any ideas? --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:37, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't recognize the artist or signature.Don Erikson 23:00, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Rats! The style is irritatingly familiar ... Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Dune

Is the catalog # in [this] record correct? I have what appears to be an identical edition but the number is 17620, not 17260. Thanks for checking. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 05:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

My copy is definitely 17260. Is your copy also $0.95? That would be an unusual variant.Don Erikson 20:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Yep, same price. No ads in the back to help. Has the Hugo Winner blurb on the front. Blurbs from AC Clarke, Heinlein and Miller on the back. Interior identical to the N-3 first printing. An unusual variant indeed as future Ace printings proceed numerically from the 17260. And the number block is a straight overprint of the previous number, both spine and cover. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

The Spell of Seven

I had half a mind to add “Pyramid Science Fiction” as a series to this pub (see cover), since Pyramid Books appears to have a few more such series. What is your position in this matter ? Thanks. Linguist 11:38, 26 February 2014 (UTC).

I think this may be a marketing technique to help paperback buyers find there SF. But I don't really have much info to make a desidion. Don Erikson 21:06, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I'll wait and see whether there are other opinions about this. Linguist 22:05, 1 March 2014 (UTC).

900 Grandmothers

Found a portion of a signature on the back cover of [this], just right of the barcode. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:07, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

An Abyss of Light

Added a scan to [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:50, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

The Hour of the Dragon

I have added Howard's The Hour of the Dragon to the Conan (Berkley) publication series. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 03:50, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

also your 4th printing. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 03:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

and The People of the Black Circle. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 03:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

and Red Nails. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 04:00, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Lancer/Ace/Sphere Conan Books

I will be adding Howard's Conan books published by Lancer, Ace or Sphere to a publication series. It looks like you've verified several of them. I'm just going to leave this one note rather than multiple posts on your talk page, unless you want a list of the individual titles affected. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 12:56, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

A question has been raised on my talk page about the creation of the Lancer/Ace/Sphere pub series. Please feel free to chime in there if you have any thoughts you'd like to share. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 19:12, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

The Spirit Stone

The binding was skipped in the entry of this record so it defaulted to "unknown". Please correct that when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Not used to the new form yet. I fixed it.Don Erikson 18:31, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Tarzan the Magnificent

I wanted to add "Second U.S. Printing" to this record based on my copy. Are you ok with this change? TAWeiss 21:56, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I'll just fix it myself.Don Erikson 18:33, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

The Stand: The Complete & Uncut Edition

Hi. I would have liked to make a few additions or changes to this record you are sole verifyer of :

• cover artist is John Cayea, judging from this other record.
• there are xxv pages at the beginning, containing 1) Author's Note (p. ix), 2) A Preface in Two Parts (p. xi-xv) and 3) a kind of introduction named “The Circle Opens” (p. ixx-xxv), which finds its echo p. 1136 whith “The Circle Closes”.

Furthermore, although copyright page has “Published by Signet, an imprint of New American Library”, title page only has “A Signet Book”. As I was given to understand that title page data primes other indications, shouldn't the publisher be changed to just “Signet” ? Thanks for your opinon about this. Linguist 22:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC).

Until Don weighs in on the issue: we don't add contents records for parts of a novel, so "The Circle Opens" and "The Circle Closes" wouldn't have separate records. The author's note and the preface should be added to the contents (see here). As for the publisher credit, when most of the records from a publisher gives both imprint and publisher name (as in "Signet / New American Library") then you should go with it. You're correct that title page publisher credit should be the first consideration, but exceptions are made in cases like this, when the combination of imprint and publisher is the more common form of the publisher name. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Concerning this last remark, I suppose I'll have to modify the publisher credit in the other two Stephen King Signet records I have just created, then. Ah well. And as far as page indications are concerned, then the novel starts on p. xvii (opening quotes) or ixx (first subtitle), and carries on (Book I) p. 1 ? How can you indicate this without mentioning the “The Circle Opens” part ? Linguist 09:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC).

You have the option to record any unusual pagination in the Note field. Mhhutchins 15:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. What a kettle of fish (mmmm...fish). I agree with both of you. It's weird but the novel does start with a Roman numeral. The unusual pagination should be clarified in the notes and the publisher should be just Signet. So I say do what you think is right.Don Erikson 18:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

At the time of this book's publication (1991), Signet was (and remains) an imprint of New American Library. It's best to keep the record's stated publisher as is. You have the option to give in the Note field how the publisher is stated on this book's title page, and that the record's data is based on the copyright page statement. Mhhutchins 20:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks to you all. I'll try and make the best of it. Linguist 21:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC).

I accepted the edits. --MartyD 00:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Time to Come

Found initials on the cover of [this], beneath the machine's exhaust, added the artist credit. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:15, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Added contents to your verified record

Re this record. The only one I was uncertain about was the Jack Gaughan artwork. Is it included in your copy of the second printing? Mhhutchins 04:47, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I just picked up a copy of this and the artwork is not there. --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:28, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I've removed it. A question: the cover credits "John W. Campbell". But the record credits "John W. Campbell, Jr." Does the title page credit not match the cover credit? If not, the credit of the contents must also be changed to match the title page credit. Mhhutchins 00:30, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

No Jr. on the title page, have corrected the record. And, Don, I found Chris Foss' initial on the spine so added an artist credit. --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:56, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Howard and De Camp's "Hawks Over Shem" and "The Road of the Eagles"

Two stories by Howard and De Camp, "Hawks Over Shem" and "The Road of the Eagles" are listed as by Howard alone in several of your printings of Conan the Freebooter ([4], [5], [6] and [7]). I've got an earlier printing of this collection and it does credit both authors on the contents page (there are no author credits on any story title pages). Could you check if you copy has De Camp listed as an author. I'm checking with verifiers of this collection and if if De Camp is always credited for these stories, which I suspect, we can fix this with two merge edits. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 15:39, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

De Camp is credited in each of these books.Don Erikson 18:07, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Future Earths: Under African Skies

Added a scan to the Future Earths: Under African Skies anthology. Albinoflea 15:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Kinsman

Just entered a record for the Canadian printing of [this] and found initials on the cover. Just right and below the young lady's ... assets ... are V C[maybe]V which I don't recognize. The style is similar to several Bova covers, but no ideas. You? --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea. I even did an "Advanced Search" for last names starting with "V" then looked for first names starting with "V". No luck, but a surprising percent (more than half)of names with 1st & last names starting with "V" are listed as cover or interior artists. I guess they like alliteration.Don Erikson 22:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Added cover to Magellan

Hi. Since it was different than the others shown, I added a cover scan to your verified copy of Magellan.

Which cover? The link above leads to Brian Herbert's Dune book "House Atreides ".Don Erikson 21:40, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry - Not sure how I did that. Looks like I deleted the last digit in trying to get the html to work correctly. Should be OK now. Jack Sjmathis 13:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Also, I was surprised to see that it's the only thing he wrote, while the database lists a bunch of covers for which he is credited, far more recently. Perhaps these are two people? Is there a way to tell? Jack. Sjmathis 19:02, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I'd put money that the artist of the 2000s is not the same as the author of this 1970 novel. I'll disambiguate the author. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:56, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Asimov on Physics

Could you please check two things in your verified Asimov on Physics?

• "The Ridged Vacuum": Is it indeed "Ridged", or is it "The Rigid Vacuum"? The latter is the title of the original publication of this essay.
• "A Modern Demonology": Is it "A" or "The"? I'm asking since this essay was first published under the title "The Modern Demonology".

Thanks, Darkday 19:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Both items have now been corrected.Don Erikson 22:45, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Rocket to the Morgue

The cover art for this edition is by Robert Stanley, see this art gallery. Could you perform the update? Thanks. Horzel 22:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Update performed.Don Erikson 22:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Three in One

Hi. I have uploaded a new cover scan with a better definition for your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC).

The Clock We Live On

Added better cover scan and some notes to The Clock We Live On.SFJuggler 22:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

The Death Dealers

Added notes & links to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38164 The Death Dealers[.SFJuggler 22:37, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

The Many-Colored Land

Have a hold on your submission to add an edition to the above. Notes give a date but the year is 0000-00-00 in the record? Am I missing something??¿?? --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

My mistake. It should be July 1983.Don Erikson 22:13, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I'll accept it and change the date. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

The Saliva Tree

Replaced scan of your verified (correct dimension, no stain on cover). Thanks. Linguist 21:21, 2 April 2014 (UTC).

Barbarrosa Red

Can you confirm the publisher credit given in this record? Jove / HBJ became Jove Books circa 1978/79. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

It is Jove only. I changed it.Don Erikson 18:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Carter essay in Beyond the Golden Stair?

Sorry, I saw to late that you were second primary verifier of Beyond the Golden Stair. I should have asked you in advance before adding the essay by Lin Carter. Could you please check if it is included? Stonecreek 06:13, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem.Don Erikson 19:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Calibration Run

You have verified this publication containing Calibration Run (novelette) and this publication containing Calibration Run (novella). Would you mind double checking if these are indeed two different versions or if they are the same version with the size difference being a database error? If they are different versions, please add a note to the title records. If they are the same, then they should be merged under the correct size. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:16, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

After checking a word count makes this both these a novelette.Don Erikson 19:15, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Merged. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Sword of Lankor

Found a signature on the cover of [this], just beside the front figure's shoulder. Added the artist credit. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:29, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Holding Wonder

Dated [this] from two ads in the back. --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [8]. Also made a note of the probable cover artist.Don Erikson 23:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Seeing that the 'i' and 'u' are next to each other on the keyboard: Brice or Bruce Jensen?--Dirk P Broer 20:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

It is Brice with an I.Don Erikson 17:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

We only have one entry for Brice Jensen, Through the Breach. In both verified copies the notes reads "Cover art by Bruce Jensen", and is that exact typo that I mention above made....--Dirk P Broer 20:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

As the devil said "Boys, is my face red." I search the db for "Jensen" and stuck oh the 1st one the a cover credit. Rookie mistake. I have corrected it. Thanx.Don Erikson 18:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Forgotten Planet

User Horzel found the artist for this pub here. I added Robert E. Schulz to the record and adapted the notes. Thanks, --Willem H. 18:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Countdown for Cindy

Hi, the cover art for this publication is by James Bama, you can find the original art, with signature "Bama", here. Could you perform the update? Thanks, Horzel 21:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Club Tycoon

The image you're adding to [this] record only has "Man to Moon" on the cover, no 'a'. Does the title page have the different title " A Man to the Moon"? I accepted the edit as the image is the image, but the record might need a slight change? Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:31, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Strange how the brain works, we see what we expect to see. It seems the title is emulate a newspaper headline.Don Erikson 18:03, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

My brain expects to see bikini-clad persons of the female persuasion on a beach, and yet my eyes can't quite accommodate ...... ;-)) Of course, living where there are no beaches might have something to do with that?¿? --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:31, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

The Golden Compass

The binding of this publication was entered as "unknown". It appears to be a paperback. Mhhutchins 18:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

After thousands of edits, I've grown used to blank spaces. I fixed it. Now if I could only learn...Don Erikson 18:36, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Masked

Can you confirm the title of the story on page 105 of this anthology includes "Bubble Gum" and not "Bubblegum" (as it appears in the author's collection)? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 13:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

It is "bubblegum" on acknowledgement, contents and story page.Don Erikson 23:00, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Isle of the Dead

Hi, Don. Added an image and some notes [there were none] to [this] record. Would you happen to remember where the date came from? There's nothing in the book. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Yarrow

Hi. Can I ask you to check this record please? My copy has "Yarrow: An Autumn Tale" on both title and copyright pages rather than "Yarrow". There is also an author's note on page [245] as in the third printing. Many thanks for checking. --AliHarlow 01:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

You are correct. I fixed it.Don Erikson 18:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll submit the relevant changes for the author's note. Hope that's okay. --AliHarlow 22:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Bob Haberfield

Credit for the cover of Runestaff may have come from [here]. Decent site! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:19, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Starships

Replaced the amazon image, and found Sternbach's initial on the cover of [this], just below and right of the figure in the red 'bubble'. Also expanded the notes as the TOC has some interesting things not in the book proper. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:19, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Deryni Challenge

Added page count and notes to Deryni Challenge.SFJuggler 05:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Analog 1

The cover artist for this publication is Jack Gaughan, according to Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan, page 146. Could you perform the update? Thanks! Horzel 21:39, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Cover art credit discovered

The cover for this book appears among the rotating covers credited to Norman Adams at this website. Mhhutchins 21:04, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

And so it this cover art and this one (same art). Mhhutchins 21:05, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

The link to the web site goes back to the ISFDB.Don Erikson 17:35, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. Link fixed. Mhhutchins 22:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I added the info.Don Erikson 22:24, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Replica

Added cover scan and notes to Replica.SFJuggler 04:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Killing in Swords

Added better cover scan and notes to Killing in Swords.SFJuggler 06:03, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

The Lights in the Sky Are Stars

User SFJuggler found the cover artist for this pub here. I added credit and a note. --Willem H. 18:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

According to the 53rd printing, this record was printed in Jun. 1979 TAWeiss 01:34, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Rocheworld

Double Primary Verification for [this] record. --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:40, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Norton's Crossroads of Time

What is meant by "No other date" in the first bullet point of this record? A copyright only gives the year, and not the date. Mhhutchins 18:25, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

It means I wasn't paying close enough attention to my cloning. I'll fix it.Don Erikson 18:54, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Norton's Daybreak

I'm holding the submission to add a cover artist to this record for several reasons.

Hold on to your hat, there's a lot of crow to eaten here, by me of course! So cancel it.

• You should not have removed the note that "The artist is not credited, no visible signature". Removing the note implies that the cover is credited in the book.

You're right.

• The link you give for the source is goes to with the error message "The selected album/file does not exist !"

You're right. I didn't bother to test it first.

• You left a notice about the change on the PV1 editor's page, when there's a notification message explaining that he's inactive and that it should be left on the other PV editor(s) pages.

Right again.

• Such a change should be discussed before making a submission to change a primary verified record.

Mhhutchins 22:24, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Yep

I accepted the submission to change another printing of this title, because it only changed the Note field. But you can see that the source link isn't valid. If you intend on crediting Barton in the cover artist field, please discuss it with the other PV editors. Mhhutchins 22:28, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Here's where I start to choke, the credit I gave turns out to be for the other half of the original Ace double anyway! So it' was all for naught. My apologies.

Same situation with this printing. I accepted the first submission to change the Note field, but I'm holding the second submission to add Barton to the artist field until it's been discussed with the other PV editors. Mhhutchins 22:31, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

There were three submissions in the queue to update the same publication record. Making a second (or more) submission to change a record before the first submission has been accepted will very likely result in data being loss between submission and acceptance. You should always wait until the first is accepted before making another submission that changes the same publication record. If you've found that you've made a mistake or forgot something on the first submission, than cancel it and make a new submission. Mhhutchins 22:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

To tell you the truth I got confused. I will go back and undo my mistakes. Don Erikson 23:03, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Forerunner Foray

Hello, note that the cover of your verified here is not by Ladd but by Siudmak as per this pub. Hauck 20:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I changed it.Don Erikson 21:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Universe 12

According to Amazon, this edition was published on December 1, 1983. This date aligns with the ISBN assignments from the publisher. It can be used to date the record. Just give Amazon as your source. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Norton's Fur Magic

I'm holding a submission to add a new record for a second Pocket printing of this title, but there appears to be one already in the database. Can you confirm that your copy is different? Mhhutchins 21:13, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I just missed it. I'll cancel it.Don Erikson 21:52, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic Adventures, January 1945

Can you confirm the title of the work on page 107 of this issue? Other works in the series were titled "Fantastic Facts". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

You are right. I FIXED IT.Don Erikson 21:30, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Cap lock really is on the spot on the keyboard.Don Erikson 17:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

'Ware Hawk

Please check the price field as changed in the recent update to this record. Mhhutchins 01:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

My dumb-ass computer often puts the cursor one space to the left of where you click. It drives me crazy! I fixed the price.Don Erikson 17:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Science Fantasy Winter 71 & more covers

Hi, I'm adding the cover artist here and here and one more and will link them to their originals subsequently. JLochhas 20:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Lloyd Biggle, Jr(.)

Hello. I was wondering about the correct spelling of this author's name in this edition of All the Colours of Darkness, which you verified. On my copy, there is no period after Jr (and there shouldn't be, as r is the last letter of Junior). I would be in favour of suppressing the period, and varianting the name. Thanks for your opinon about this. Linguist 09:27, 29 May 2014 (UTC).

See the last entry under [9]. --AliHarlow 12:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Linguist 12:50, 29 May 2014 (UTC).

We normalize all uses of "Jr.", "Sr.", "II", "III", etc., regardless of how they're credited. Mhhutchins 16:00, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

The Seedling Stars

Hello again. I have added some minor notes to your verified. Moreover, I think the editor should be entered as Signet / New American Library, as per title page. What do you think ? Thanks. Linguist 09:55, 29 May 2014 (UTC).

Prometheans

Added a note to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 08:45, 30 May 2014 (UTC).

After the Rain

Replaced Bookscan image by a new cover scan of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 08:58, 30 May 2014 (UTC).

Of Unknown Origin

Please confirm the author credit of this record. OCLC doesn't give the suffix in either this record or the original (differently-titled) publication of this work. Thanks. for checking. Mhhutchins 23:46, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

It's "III" on the cover, spine, title page & copyright notice. Without the comma but that's how we do it , right?Don Erikson 00:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for the info. Mhhutchins 02:31, 31 May 2014 (UTC)