User talk:Dirk P Broer/Archive-2017

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Limits

In Limits the novelette The Locusts is attributed to Steve Barnes and not Steven Barnes. --AndyjMo 21:41, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll change it to Steve Barnes (I) -which is a variant name for Steven Barnes-.--Dirk P Broer 00:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't. It's greyed-out.--Dirk P Broer 00:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Just chiming in with an idea here :) You cannot change it because it is used by a lot of other works. You will need to create a new variant with the correct name and then remove the one that is now in the work and import the newly created one, Unless if ALL of those need to be Steve in which case you can change it on the Title level on the story. :) Annie 01:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
As it is not Steve Barnes, but Steve Barnes (I) (a variant name for Steven Barnes) who is to be attributed, my guess is that it is not always the case.--Dirk P Broer 01:12, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Then it is a new variant, then remove and import :) Annie 01:34, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I've made the preparations, but I'm far from being the first verifier.--Dirk P Broer 02:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Flight of the Silvers

Hi, in your verified copy of The Flight of the Silvers you credit the cover art to grey318. Could you please check whether that could be a typo for gray318?--Dirk P Broer 13:39, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Yep. Correction submitted. Good catch.SFJuggler 05:58, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Nope. Took a magnifying glass to the dustjacket and it IS "grey318" after all. I've submitted the change back.SFJuggler 23:50, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

The Door Into Summer

Not a change to your verified pub per se, but I've been going through many pubs of The Door Into Summer and capitalising the "into" to "Into". Thanks. PeteYoung 02:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Little Fuzzy

I've added some Notes to Little Fuzzy. Can you check your copy for the Page Count? My copy ends on numbered page 174, the last 2 pages are blank and unnumbered. --AndyjMo 19:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, after page 174 only two blank and unnumbered pages. Changed it to 174.--Dirk P Broer 21:32, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Nichol, C. A. Scrymsour

I still think you should be a moderator, and I defer to your judgement, but I am going to ask anyway: What do you think of just changing the credit for The Mystery of the North Pole to "C. A. Scrymsour Nichol" instead of making Nichol, C. A. Scrymsour a pseudonym? I looked at the OCLC entry cited in the lone pub, and it uses "C. A. Scrymsour Nichol". --MartyD 03:46, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Changing the credit would be another way to get rid of Nichol, C. A. Scrymsour. Whoever entered that, and who approved it? But now we're faced with a to-be-merged title, as it also features under the right name.--Dirk P Broer 11:53, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
It was even worse than that. The pub itself was duplicated, too (with the proper credit). I redid the credit, merged, and deleted. I think it should be good now. --MartyD 02:39, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Earth Abides

Hello Dirk, can you stop uploading images for this pub ;-). Everything seems OK by now (try to refresh your browser perhaps) and I've had to delete nearly 10 similar images. Hauck 15:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

But I DO refresh my browser after each try. The picture does not change. It is supposed to look screen-shot-2016-07-02-at-11-25-58-am.png like this[/image]]--Dirk P Broer 21:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
That is the image that is being displayed. You need to clear the cache of your browser. The old version of Wikimedia software that the ISFDB uses doesn't properly tell the browser when a new image is uploaded. It doesn't know the image has changed so will keep loading the old one from the cache. Sometimes F5 works, but not always. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
After my last try it finally shows me what I wanted.--Dirk P Broer 22:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Greek Lois McMaster Bujold titles

Your three submissions that I have on hold would change the author credit on the parent titles, which would make them match the variants. (I admit I could be wrong.) Instead it would be easier to remove the variants and delete the orphan parents. But what are you intending to do? Don't we want this parent, with her English name? I think I must be missing something. --MartyD 02:14, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Does this answer your question? If what you describe -parent, with her English name- is right, this list (a clean-up list) would be much longer.--Dirk P Broer 09:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Well, it helps me understand your motivation, but, no, it still doesn't help. I think the only reason these three show up is because there's no English-titled chapbook to use as a parent for the Greek title + Greek author credit ones. So they have a Greek title but Latin/English author name. Maybe they should be ignored in the report. I will ask. --MartyD 11:20, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
IMHO the first two publications should stay that way (title+author (both in greek) varianted to title(in greek)+author(canonical in english)) as these chapbooks seems to exists only in greek form (they also should be ignored inthe cleanup report), the last one should be varianted to this existing title. The same logic would apply to a NOVEL by (say) an english writer only published in a non-latin alphabet. Hauck 11:21, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that's right (I missed the Mountains one). I posted a note on the Help Desk, so we'll see if anyone thinks differently. Dirk, I will fix them up and do the marking in the report as appropriate, according to the feedback. Leave the submissions as a placeholder. --MartyD 11:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Okay.--Dirk P Broer 11:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
I have done it: Made the variant of The Mountains of Mourning and deleted the Greek + English offender. And I marked the other two as to-be-ignored in the report. So all three are gone. --MartyD 14:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Perfect!.--Dirk P Broer 14:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Mission Critical: Death of the Phoenix

I have rejected your edit to make Mission Critical: Death of the Phoenix by Paul Chafe a novelization. Based on this it is a story separate from the game. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:42, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Alright by me, but variant Mission Critical: Death of the Phoenix by Paul C. Chafe already is a novelization. I only try for consistency.--Dirk P Broer 09:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
And that's great! The problem is that some editors seemingly characterize things as novelizations that could be such, but aren't necessarily. Christian Stonecreek 10:11, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Heroes Of Zara Keep

I added the LCCN to your verified copy of Heroes Of Zara Keep. MLB 05:30, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Image:BattleForTheStars-Mayflower-Dell1963 signature.jpg

I just randomly stumbled on your author sig image where the author was still unknown, but the publication page http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260418 now identifies it as Pino Dell'Orco so I've taken the liberty of updating the image page; if this is a bad thing to do, please let me know, and i apologize in advance. Thanks. gzuckier 23:11, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Perfect if accompanied with messages like this!.--Dirk P Broer 23:13, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Oops…

Rejected one of your submissions by error (Butch Burcham / F. Newton Burcham), but fixed it up; sorry about that… Linguist 11:27, 1 February 2017 (UTC).

Thomas Burke

Here's one for your author investigations. The Look Inside for Limehouse Nights by Thomas Burke starts out with a little bio "Thomas Burke": Thomas Burke was born in Clapham, London in 1886.... yet we have his birthplace a rather explicit Eltham, Kent, England, UK. --MartyD 17:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Our sources are IMDb, wich states Eltham, London (wrong, because in 1886 Eltham still was part of Kent) and Wikipedia, which twice (top and template) names Eltham and once Clapham (body text). The Wikipedia article about Eltham mentiones Burke as a former resident, the one about Clapham does not. If it was Clapham he was born in 1886, it would be presented as Clapham, Surrey, England, UK. Clapham, London -in 1886- is wrong anyway.--Dirk P Broer 10:45, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
I don't know the first thing about the boroughs of London or the surrounding towns. I did find this, but I don't know if it's something we'd consider authoritative. Similar, although less detailed, information is also presented for him on the Valancourts site. --MartyD 11:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
It are not the surrounding towns, but (parts of) the surrounding counties that over a period of time have been absorbed into the ever greater Great London Area (Kent, Surrey, Middlesex, etc). Both Eltham and Clapham were suburban villages then (in 1886) just outside the London borders. Clapham is much more west than Eltham, Burke placing much of his stories in East London surroundings. BTW: Clapham Junction is a railway station, not in the Clapham area...--Dirk P Broer 21:48, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Changing title types

Don't forget that when you change the type of a title that is one of the "container" title types -- ANTHOLOGY, CHAPBOOK, COLLECTION, NONFICTION, NOVEL, OMNIBUS -- you also need to make the same change to the publication(s) using that title. Unfortunately, it does not happen automatically. I did the two Goosebump ones (NOVEL -> OMNIBUS) that went by a little earlier today. --MartyD 13:33, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 13:34, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

N/A Marked Primary Verifications

In the following pub, you have marked a primary verification slot as N/A:

It is not clear if you meant to verify it or you clicked an extra row in marking secondary references as N/A. If you could update it, it would be appreciated. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

clicked in wrong column/radiobutton in 2011....--Dirk P Broer 11:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Transliteration Problem

I put this submission on hold as one of the words,がんばる, should be transliterated as Ganbaru, not Ganbare.--Rkihara 02:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

I only watched the author, not the title. Title was in both cases already entered but I noticed it was the same author.--Dirk P Broer 10:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I fixed it.--Rkihara 18:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 19:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The Iron Thorn

Hello Dirk, the cover art of this is by Peter Jones, as can be seen on his site (search for 'swa147'). Thanks. Horzel 13:59, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 14:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The Golden Strangers / The Invaders

Hi. I saw you cancelled those changes to make The Golden Strangers into a collection and a variant of The Invaders. Your evidence seemed good that the changes were appropriate. I did not think there was anything wrong with them; I was only giving the primary verifier a chance to agree before letting them through. Did you find something else suggesting they are not the same? Thanks. --MartyD 12:09, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I want the primary verifier to look before applying any changes, and I also hope that someone will get his/her hands on a copy of the 1st US edition. I am not entirely convinced that all editions of Golden Strangers/The Invaders contained three stories, all the more because Golden Strangers is often referred to as being a novel.--Dirk P Broer 12:39, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

The Drought

Changed the publisher for [this] to match the title page [spine/copyright page] and added the OCLC # --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Empire

Empire: I edited the notes to 1) mention introduction essays before each story; 2) clarify the note regarding the story credits (it had implied "The Return" was credited to Piper on the title page); and 3) fix the HTML. I also added page number sorting to the chronology so it appears before the introduction. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:51, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Five to Twelve

Altered the publisher to match the title page in [this] --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Same for [The Last Continent] --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:41, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Same for [The Overman Culture] plus link for the artist --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:50, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Author credits on "The Invention of Ephraim Gadde"

The update you submitted to The Windsor Magazine that I have on hold seems to be changing the existing author credits to the same thing that's already there. I looked at the Homeville reference you provided in the note to the moderator, and it looks like the existing information matches it, so I'm not sure what you want to change. Thanks. --MartyD 01:29, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Hermann Knapp

Hi, Dirk! Do you have any specific source for placing the place of birth Steinbach into Lower Austria? (I've put your submission on hold). Christian Stonecreek 05:23, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Steinbach in the German Wikipedia article about Hermann Knapp connects with Bad Großpertholz. Steinbach is a municipality within Bad Großpertholz, which is located in Lower Austria (English for Niederösterreich).--Dirk P Broer 10:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I was a bit concerned about this, because I thought it possible that someone just connected the entry with the most prominent Steinbach. But as there's in fact an author site that stated the same I'll approve the submission. Sorry for the inconvenience, Christian Stonecreek 14:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Fanzines and Magazines wiki pages

Hi Dirk,

Please see my note here. The remaining handful of magazines and fanzines are there because there is work to be done in the DB. :) Annie 22:57, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Mittag, 22. Jahrhundert

Hi, Dirk! I've put your submission for making this a variant on hold, as this would make a COLLECTION into a variant of a NOVEL (but I'd say that this really is a COLLECTION; some of the stories were published independently). Seems as this should be discussed first. Christian Stonecreek 11:02, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

The 'mother' title is mentioned to be a fix-up novel, originally out of sixteen, later out of twenty stories.--Dirk P Broer 11:06, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Well, the stories (or parts) were drawn from various previous publications and make out parts of the Strugatsky's future history. In that regard I'd think there's not much difference to a title like Heinlein's The Past through Tomorrow or other future histories. I'll start a discussion on the community portal. Thanks, Dirk! Stonecreek 17:12, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

The Eleventh Commandment

Hello Dirk. Do you confirm 192 pages for your verified ? My copy only has 186 (and no ripped pages !). Thanks, Linguist 13:57, 14 March 2017 (UTC).

You are right, I've changed the page count. We must ask Bluesman whether his Canadian edition has the same fault.--Dirk P Broer 14:06, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
I've left him a note about the matter. Thanks, Linguist 14:32, 14 March 2017 (UTC).

Crashcourse

I added some notes to your verified copy of Crashcourse. MLB 04:14, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Wonders of the Spaceways / "The Green Cloud"

In Wonders of the Spaceways, I changed the "John Robertson" credit on "The Green Cloud" to "John Roberston (I)" and made it a variant to this under John F. Watt. Please check to see if that looks right to you. Thanks. --MartyD 11:37, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

James Robertson for "Space Warning" in Wonders of the Spaceways No. 6

Is the author credit on Space Warning in Wonders of the Spaceways No. 6 perhaps "John Robertson" (and, so, "John Robertson (I)", similar to the above)? If it is James Robertson, I think he's someone other than our current entry for that name. --MartyD 11:54, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

It is John Robertson (I) [John F. Watt] who is the right pseudonym.--Dirk P Broer 11:55, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I changed it and made the variant. --MartyD 12:01, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

"Double" submissions

Hello Dirk, I suppose that you know this but, when you change an author at title level for certain types (IIRC SHORTFICTION, INTERIOR ART & ESSAY) the change is replicated in all intances of the record making it useless to submit a second similar change at publication level. Hauck 07:32, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

The problem lies in the 'certain types'. There are other instances where a change is not propagated, leading e.g. to titles without publication. To me this is not clear upon the moment of submitting.--Dirk P Broer 08:15, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes I've learned this lesson, for the above types I think that it's OK. Hauck 08:35, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Changes to John G. Hemry/Jack Campbell pubs

I am changing John G. Hemry's canonical name to Jack Campbell; this is affecting some of your verified publications. --Vasha 17:45, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

No, it didn't.--Dirk P Broer 18:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Pournelle's Mercenary Books

Dirk, as I said in my messages before, Chapter 12 of The Mercenary (at least the hardcover version) appears as the last chapter in "Falkenberg's Legion" in The Prince, NOT in "Sword and Septre" as part of "Prince of Mercenaries" in the same pub. I don't care what some website says, I verified this directly from the books. Bob 12:43, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I have asked nothing about "Prince of Mercenaries". I only asked whether all that is present in Future History is also present in Falkenberg's Legion and Falkenberg's Legions as part of The Prince. I can't help that Baen wedged a complete novel in between The Mercenary.--Dirk P Broer 21:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

The Immortals

Hello Dirk, I've approved your submission for this collection but I'm surprised that the author is given as "James Gunn" but the texts imported (the shortfiction ones at least) are by "James E. Gunn". I suppose that your import comes from this publication that is also differently credited (and peraphs in error). Can you confirm the author credit? Thanks. Hauck 06:04, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

The author credit as given checks with the copyright page for the publication, a weird case of crediting one man with two versions of his name. You can't get to view enough of the book to verify (e.g. no title page), though the preface is indeed signed 'James Gunn'.--Dirk P Broer 07:16, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Hauck 07:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Cover Art Credit Change

When changing the credit for cover art, you can do it either in the title record or in the publication record (if the cover art is not shared between multiple pubs). You don't need to edit both. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Sentinels from Space

Updated Sentinels from Space with Printing History and source of Cover Artist. --AndyjMo 12:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 12:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Stef van Stiphout

You set the birth date of Stef van Stiphout to 1981. However, all of his works pre-date that. Did you mean to make that the death date or was there a typo in the year? The included link does not seem to have birth/death dates so unsure what is the correct value. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

At least I am not the only one to make that mistake: here they do it likewise (geboren (=born) 1981) -most probably my source too....-Dirk P Broer 14:42, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Corrected it, thanks for catching!--Dirk P Broer 14:46, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

The Winds of Gath

Replaced Amazon cover art for The Winds of Gath with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 10:39, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Toyman

Added Notes to Toyman. --AndyjMo 10:44, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Kalin

Added Notes to Kalin. --AndyjMo 10:51, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Beginning to look like you bought the whole series! Nice read though.--Dirk P Broer 10:52, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm working through my library and reached the letter T. It looks as though I bought the first 17 of this series and then got bored with it. Maybe I will revisit it if I find the rest in a Second Hand Shop. --AndyjMo 09:15, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Moon Base

Updated Moon Base with the Printing History. --AndyjMo 09:19, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Jondelle

Replaced Amazon cover art for Jondelle with a scan of my copy, added the Printing History. --AndyjMo 10:16, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Jack of Swords

For Jack of Swords the signature Kirby is on the front cover (below the boot second from the right). I've added the Printing History to the record. --AndyjMo 11:41, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Fantasms and Magics

In my copy of Fantasms and Magics the novella The Miracle Workers is listed in the Contents and at the start of the story without the hyphen. Is this an alternative title for the story? I've added the source of the Cover Artist and updated the Printing History. --AndyjMo 09:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

I've made the correction. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

To Live Forever

Added the copyright statement and Other Prices to To Live Forever. --AndyjMo 10:42, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Maske: Thaery

Added Printing History, source of Cover Artist and Other Prices to Maske: Thaery. --AndyjMo 12:56, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The Ophiuchi Hotline

Added Printing History, Other Prices and Source of the Cover Artist to The Ophiuchi Hotline. --AndyjMo 16:56, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

The Honor of the Queen

Replaced cover art of The Honor of the Queen with a scan of my copy and added Notes. --AndyjMo 19:49, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Field of Dishonor

Replaced cover art of Field of Dishonor with a scan of my copy. As the excerpt at the end of the book has no page numbers shouldn't the Page Count be 367+[5] and the page number of the Excerpt start at [368]?. --AndyjMo 20:07, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

I have made the change to the Page Count. --AndyjMo 05:55, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

In Enemy Hands

Replaced Amazon Cover Art of In Enemy Hands with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 15:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

At All Costs

I've added the source of the Cover Artist and interior maps to At All Costs. Shouldn't the authors of Sister Time (excerpt) be John Ringo & Julie Cochrane? --AndyjMo 15:46, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

You are absolutely right, thanks!--Dirk P Broer 17:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

C. G. Chenevix Trench

I approved your edit adding author data for this name, however the legal name as you have entered it has the surnames hyphenated. Your source doesn't indicate this, so should the hyphen be removed? Thanks. PeteYoung 12:24, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

They're all related: google search. Seems more like a matter of personal choice than a rule.--Dirk P Broer 19:03, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

ADDENDUM: Discussion moved to the Community Portal. --Vasha 01:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

The Other Foot

Cover artist for this is Josh Kirby, according to The Josh Kirby checklist. Horzel 11:43, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 11:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Ambulance Ship

Added Library of Congress reference to Ambulance Ship. --AndyjMo 16:51, 22 June 2017 (EDT)

Star Healer

Updated Printing History and added correct LCCN to Star Healer. --AndyjMo 05:50, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Max Begouën

I approved your update of Max Begouën but did you mean to put this note in the Note of the Author (visible) or in the Moderator Note? Annie 21:36, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

I meant the moderator note, but it won't harm to have it in the other if I have put it there.--Dirk P Broer 21:38, 23 June 2017 (EDT)
Nope, no harm. I reworked it to make sense now after the update. Feel free to edit if you prefer a different wording. Annie 21:46, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Stormguard: The Invisible War

Hello Dirk,

I have your 5 "Stormguard: The Invisible War" submissions on hold. Serials will take their series name and number from the novel/story they get varianted into (as serials need to always have a parent title) and they cannot have their own numbers in the series. Did you mean to convert these to short fiction as well? If they stay SERIALs (I do not have the magazine so cannot determine if it is one split story or separate stories in a series), we cannot have the series set like that. Am I missing something in what you are trying to achieve here? Thanks!Annie 18:09, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

This list prompted me to try it: SERIALs without a Parent Title.--Dirk P Broer 18:14, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
That won't remove the entries from the list though - what these entries need is a parent title - a short fiction or a novel that all the serialized entries are varianted under. See this one or this one for example. See also the explanation on this page on how to date the cases when the complete novel is not there yet (and other considerations). Annie 18:24, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
These lists could sometimes do with links to the wiki.--Dirk P Broer 19:05, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
I think it is a side effect of the fact that most (all?) were designed at the times when only moderators could see them. But yeah - some "how to" may be useful - even if not directly linked, a page that explains all the reports and how to clean them (I've seen parts of it all over the wiki...). I will reject the 5 updates I am holding now. Thanks for the understanding Annie 19:30, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Zorïn et Mïrka

Hello Dirk, I've rejected your submission on two grounds: 1) as per your later submission about Feck & Zorin and the pseudonymistic links created, this would have attributed partially these works to Lou Feck, 2) as they have not other works under their individual name, there's no need to create new authors for each member (a bit like this situation). I've added some data to the notes. Hauck 08:54, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

HO! Zorin is *NOT* Zorïn. The first is a US citizen, the latter French, and collaborator of Mïrka Lugosi!--Dirk P Broer 11:14, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
Yes, I know this but our system does not differentiate between Zorin and Zorïn. Hauck 11:20, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
Luckily they -Zorïn et Mïrka- are not very active in our field.--Dirk P Broer 11:22, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

Manuel de Pedrolo

I accepted the edit but I wonder if the family name should not be de Pedrolo for him (as this is how he is known in his native country and users would look for him under "de Pedrolo" usually). What do you think? Annie 19:35, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

I wouldn't know. As Dutch we have also 'de' names (de Vries, de Jong, de Wit, etc), but we will always look at the last part. This goes so far as placing Lester del Rey under the 'R' and A. E. van Vogt under 'Vo'. I know that it is the custom in other countries too, but I can't speak for Portugal. You might want to lookup other Portuguese names though, I've seen it twice -using the 'de/da', and one time 'Lima de Freitas'.--Dirk P Broer 19:54, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
We need a broader discussion and a native speaker :) Bulgarian is weirder - it sends some under the "de" and some under the name after that - based on country of origin or based on "whatever someone dreamed up last time". I just saw it and thought I should ask. :) On a separate note - I found his book's original title so this specific author looks very well in the DB now. Annie 20:02, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
What I DO know is that Portuguese, like Spaniards, have a 'double' surname: that of their father and that of their mother. --Dirk P Broer 20:04, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
Of course they do. Plus a couple or 5 first names (exhibit A) :) Although de Pedrolo is not Portuguese. Annie 20:13, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

A Rose for Ecclesiastes

Replaced the Amazon cover art of A Rose for Ecclesiastes with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 14:23, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

Nice one.--Dirk P Broer 18:04, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Today We Choose Faces

Replaced Amazon cover art for Today We Choose Faces with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 15:25, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

Wyrms

Cover artist of this is Tony Roberts, the art is on his site. Horzel 17:42, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 18:03, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Jacques Le Compte

I accepted the pseudonyming but considering the number of titles under all the names, I wonder if the pseudonym should not go the other way? Is it expected that the de Graef name will be used more in future or missing from the DB titles? Annie 19:34, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Anyway - apparently you got the variants in while I was distracted so I will accept those - at the end of the day, the real name is as good as any for canonical. Annie 19:38, 1 July 2017 (EDT)
As Jack de Graef he has written far more: look here. Not all of it spculative fiction, but 'Jacques Le Compte' is a thinly disguised pseudonym (a litteral translation, like I would become Richard Frère).--Dirk P Broer 19:39, 1 July 2017 (EDT)
Yeah, I saw it is one of those pseudonyms for the sake of having a pseudonym but if he had used it for most works, it would have been the canonical here :) A note in the Moderator note field on the pseudonyming when something like that happens (and the pseudonym goes against the most logical visible way) will help a lot. :) Thanks for the quick answer! Annie 19:44, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Family name

Hi Dirk,

When you are changing a family name because of special characters, the author always also need a transliteration of their name (for the same characters). Would you mind adding these as well in these cases? Thanks! Annie 20:56, 2 July 2017 (EDT)

The New Women of Wonder

Added roman-numeral introduction to the page numbers; moved external identifiers. --Vasha 12:30, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

Bolo!

I have your edit to Bolo! on-hold. You are changing the notes from "First printing by number line." to "No number line.". That is a significant change that needs to be notified to the other verifiers. While someone could have made an error in the entry, it is also possible that you have another printing. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:26, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

Sorry, when I first looked I didn't see your notices. Now they are showing up. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:28, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
I known I have the same (hardcover) printing, the paperback printing mentions the same (about the number line). If there's a number line, it was not recognized by me as such.--Dirk P Broer 09:36, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
The only number I had doubts about, 2004021810, appears to be the LCCN number.--Dirk P Broer 09:55, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

LCCN format

Hello,

Is there a reason why you are changing the format of the LCCN while moving it here? Both 91-38127 and 91038127 are valid and the old text was using the "-" format (I know the link was the one with 0 but that was a preference - it was not visible anyway)? Thanks! Annie 18:27, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

The reason is that I want a clear connection between the old and the new notation. I always(?) leave the one with '-' in the notes (mostly with "as given on copyright page").--Dirk P Broer 18:30, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
Still, both links would work so using what the original editors prefer should be the preferred option IMHO - even if you prefer the pure numerical format.
And I am holding 2 of your updates for the same reason - in one of the cases there was not even a link before so the explanation above does not apply at all (this one. We are not standardizing those when moving and we not forcing just one of the formats. Is there a special reason why we need to change the format in these cases against the format preferred by the PVs? Annie 18:35, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
'I Am Spock' still shows the original LCCN in the notes, somehow I seem to have removed the original with 'Firewatch' and replaced with the number given at LCCN. I can't explain what went wrong here.--Dirk P Broer 18:41, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
I think that "leaving it as is in the notes but changing it as I think it should be when putting in the new field" is a bad approach - it is an attempt at standardization and forcing a "correct" format for the field. Which we do not really have. I will open a discussion over at Community Forum to see what other people think. Annie 18:44, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
I do not understand your problem. In the old way of notation an editor uses lccn.loc.gov/89025712">89-25712 to show 89-25712 and to direct to 89025712. I leave what he/she shows and direct to which was originally directed.--Dirk P Broer 18:52, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
In the case where there is no link at all, the "0 format" is not referred to anywhere and you are introducing it when moving to the new field. And in the case of the link, the visible part is the one with the "-" - and not the one with the 0s. Not all the old links use the different values - we have more than enough where the 0s format is used both in the visible part and in the link part. Having the link stay in the Notes is not optimal - it clutters the note, requires a second change if the LCCN ever is found wrong and so on. Anyway - posted over in the Community Support. If the overall agreement is that we overwrite PV's wishes and just do it in a standard way - that's fine. But I would rather keep the PV's formats when possible when we do not really have a standard way. Annie 19:04, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
But do all those old ways of notation ("In its most elementary form the number includes a year and a serial number. The year has two digits for 1898 to 2000, and four digits beginning in 2001. The three ambiguous years (1898, 1899, and 1900) are distinguished by the size of the serial number. There are also some peculiarities in numbers beginning with a "7" because of an unsuccessful experiment applied between 1969 and 1972.") give a valid link to the present record?--Dirk P Broer 19:08, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
Yep. http://lccn.loc.gov/91038127 and http://lccn.loc.gov/91-38127 both open this. If you send the "-" format, it converts to the 0 format for you when building the search string on the LOC side (I think it was not doing it very well back in the days which is why our formats were as they were - but I may be wrong). Most older books will have the "-" format printed and when people add these, that is what we will be seeing in those fields. Thus my thinking that we should just use whatever the PV preferred to be visible anyway. I am yet to see any that does not open when I am converting. If you have an example from the weird "7" ones, we can verify quickly but LOC had done quite a lot of work to allow both formats interchangeably. And if we need to force one of the formats because of peculiarities, we need to all agree on that. Annie 19:26, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
I was more thinking about cases like e.g. 99-xxx, where '99' can be both 1899 and 1999.--Dirk P Broer 20:34, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
Even more to the point are those cases where a LCCN number is quoted in the book that has no bearing to the present records of the Library of Congress, thus offering no valid link upon entering. I think all links should be checked, and the actual number must be used for linking.--Dirk P Broer 21:30, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
We treat these as every time where there are typos in a book - we record and we leave the correct link. The vast majority will have a correct one printed though - and these we want to keep as they are. Annie 16:04, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
A little sideways -before I cancel the last held submission- : How is it that while this submission is on hold that I am the submitter, while once it would have been approved it would have changed over to the approving moderator as the submitter?--Dirk P Broer 14:44, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
You always remain the submitter - it is just that there is an approver after you when accepted. An accepted submission always have 2 users associated with it - submitted and approver. For moderators it is just the same name in both places :) Annie 16:03, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
99% of these were submitted by me...--Dirk P Broer 16:28, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
A lot of moderators will do a quick "touchup" edit after yours (to fix a comma or something else technical). It becomes the last one on the books. The link leads to my list, not yours (it leads to the current user list) so if you can click on the link for the one at the top of the list you see and get me the resulting address, I can go and see what happened in that case. Annie 16:37, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
You mean this?--Dirk P Broer 16:45, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Yes. This one is added by Bluesman and approved 3 seconds later. Your original update is here and you can see that it shows you as the changer. From the looks of it, Bluesman converted back from the ul/li you (or someone else - I will need to find the previous update to see what was before the OCLC move and this can be far far behind - and I know you do change to ul/li now and then) converted to silently back to the non-html text again as was before you moved the OCLC. Annie 17:18, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Interplanetary Flight

Hi,

I have your variant on hold - I do not see any difference between the variant and the original. What are you trying to do? Thanks! Annie 19:17, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

I am trying to bring a solitary 1950 164-page edition of 'Interplanetary Flight' under the publication record that already holds four editions.--Dirk P Broer 20:24, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
It won't let me merge, because the one is entered wrongly as 'essay', the four other being non-fiction (and all are 164 pages as I pointed out in the moderator notes (one of them even sharing the cover with the sraggler). I can easily 'unmerge' as editor, but for this case I have no 'easy' menu option -hence the note.--Dirk P Broer 20:51, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
But your submission is varianting this essay to a new title that is exactly the same like the original. Which will leave you with a new empty title (that matches the old one) and this essay will still be on its own. What do you want to merge/variant the essay to?
I am finding two more essays with that name: this one that is not the same despite sharing a name and this one that also is not the same as the one from the book. Both of those are extracts from the last chapter (different from each other). So all 3 need to stay separate - they share a name and a year but they have different content. You probably saw the descriptions anyway - but I prefer to write down my thinking so I do not need to redo the search and check.
This 164 pages thing is not an essay I presume but the non-fiction book? Is that the case? We seem to have all the publications collected for it -- but if you found a stray, where is it? Also - make sure you are not looking at the non-fiction and at the essay and wondering why they are not together - that essay that you are trying to variant is only showing on one of the non-fiction books because none of the rest have any content imported.
If it is none of those things, can you tell me which entries need to get together and I may be able to help? Annie 20:52, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
After resolving a conflict in editing - are you mistaking the essay on page 58 of this book with the whole book? Because you are trying to variant this essay on page 58 (which is 20 pages), not some 164 pages essay. Annie 20:53, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
I want all 164-page non-fiction under one record, including the one that is wrongly entered as an essay.--Dirk P Broer 20:55, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
OK. Click on the publication inside of the table of the one you say is wrongly entered as an essay. Look at the table of contents inside of it. Look at page 58. Do you see the 20 pages essay there? This is your straggler - it is INSIDE of one of the non-fiction books. Click on it if you do not believe me - you will end up where you started. Annie 21:00, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
I guess I was mislead by this record, that was under this, seeing the same cover/title........sorry!--Dirk P Broer 21:01, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
If you open all the others here, you will see thatnone of them have contents - except that last "Berkley Books" publication. This is why this looks like a stray essay. It probably is in all of them but only one PV had added the separate essays in their records. :)
And no worries - I suspected that this is the case - thus my attempt at long explanations above :) Annie 21:04, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

A Plague of Demons

Hello, the real artist has been found for this pub. Hauck 05:16, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

Thanks!--Dirk P Broer 06:05, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

Manifest Destiny

Substituted the Amazon cover scan for this pub from one from my own collection. --Mavmaramis 11:24, 15 July 2017 (EDT)

That's a good one.--Dirk P Broer 19:33, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

Emphyrio

I'd like to change the cover artist of this Coronet edition from Matthew Fox to Nick Fox. The signature is the same as on other covers currently credited to Nick Fox, the style (leathery skin colors) is the same as on for example Dark Crusade (Coronet 1981). And "Matthew Fox" has no other credits, his existence is probably just based on signature "Fox" somehow combined with 1940s Weird Tales artist Matt Fox. Horzel 05:49, 18 July 2017 (EDT)

Sorry for the late reaction, I am just back from holidays. Sounds good to me!--Dirk P Broer 19:33, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

Cetaganda

Added Printing History, source of Cover Artist, changed Page count, added Canadian price. Updated page numbers of the contents to reflect the actual page numbering. --AndyjMo 13:00, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

B. W. Clough

In accordance with discussion on Moderator Board, I changed the canonical name of B. W. Clough to Brenda W. Clough, which affected this verified publication of yours. --Vasha 02:20, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

Rings of Ice

Updated the Printing History for Rings of Ice. --AndyjMo 08:15, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

The Big Lifters coverart

While working on the coverart record for Terraforming: Ecopolitical Transformations and Environmentalism I came across the artist's description of this work on his Deviant Art site, which leads me to believe that the Jacket Art credit for The Big Lifters is incorrect.

Since the hardcover is also the basis for the attribution on the paperback, and since the sole PV for the hardcover has agreed to the change, this is mostly a formality, but just wanted to notify the relevant parties before I made any changes to the paperback record. Thanks, Albinoflea 14:37, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! I changed it.--Dirk P Broer 14:46, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

Step to the Stars

The LCCN 54-8792 listed for Step to the Stars is for the hardcover edition. It does not reference the paperback editions. I think that the Notes should state this and the LCCN should be removed from the External IDs. --AndyjMo 08:00, 29 August 2017 (EDT)

We'd better ask a Primary Verifier whether the LCCN is mentioned on the copyright page. If so -and I can think of many a 1980ies book with a 1950ies LCCN-, than this might not be an isolated case and you've opened a can of worms...--Dirk P Broer 08:05, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
The LCCN 54-8792 is listed on my copy in the Copyright page. I've found that this condition occurs quite a lot in older editions. The LCCN seems to be just copied from the hardcover edition and a new LCCN for the paperback edition is not created. In these cases I just list the LCCN in the Notes section and say that it is for the hc edition only. However it does mean that a LCCN should be checked on the Library of Congress website before it is added as an external ID. Maybe something to put to the Moderators? --AndyjMo 10:25, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
Sounds very reasonable.--Dirk P Broer 10:36, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
Another idea: Use the LCCN as external Id for the Title, not for the Publication, as it looks like a given title has just one LCCN, and each publication with that title shares the same LCCN. Just my 2c.--Dirk P Broer 18:36, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Proposed variant

Sorry, I am doing this on my phone, and research is not easy. Your variant submission that I have on hold seems to be creating an identical parent. Let me know if I am missing something. Thanks. --MartyD 07:39, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Matters Arising... merge

I had to hard-reject your merge of two "Matters Arising..." titles, because one was gone. Maybe you submitted the same merge earlier? I searched and did not find any duplicate titles anymore. --MartyD 07:53, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Vasha77 did it earlier.--Dirk P Broer 08:37, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Phule's Paradise

Replaced the Amazon cover art for Phule’s Paradise with a scan of my copy. Updated the Printing History, included the source of the Cover Artist, moved the OCLC. The Publication Month comes from Locus1. --AndyjMo 06:23, 4 September 2017 (EDT)

Crashcourse

Updated the Printing History for Crashcourse. Changed the LCCN as the one shown (2010714592) was for a completely different book. --AndyjMo 17:29, 4 September 2017 (EDT)

You know that the LCCN gets allocated only once (most of the times for a hardcover), when the Title is first published in the USA? In all subsequent (USA) editions the same LCCN gets mentioned, and we should ask ourselves if the LCCN# should be used to indentify a given publication, as is obviously does not. It can be used to identify a first publication of a book title in the USA though. Problem we face is that the LCCN# is mentioned on many a copyright page and in fact pointing at the title, not the publication itself.--Dirk P Broer 19:32, 4 September 2017 (EDT)
This one is fishy, where does the 2010714592 come from?--Dirk P Broer 19:40, 4 September 2017 (EDT)
Not having access to any update history then it is difficult to know who added what data. When I add/move an LCCN I first check if it is valid. There is a discussion about LCCNs on the Moderator page. Not sure where it is going. --AndyjMo 05:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

The Martian Ambassador

Replaced the Amazon Cover Art of The Martian Ambassador with a scan of my copy. The title is readable, even with the gilt covering. Also added the Copyright statement and moved the OCLC. --AndyjMo 05:56, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

The Wind from Nowhere

Updated the Printing History for The Wind from Nowhere, added the source of the cover artist and moved the OCLC. --AndyjMo 08:13, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

"Der Kampf beginnt" variant

The system forced me to reject your proposed "Der Kampf beginnt" variant because the title involved is gone. --MartyD 09:21, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

Magazine/Editor variants

Hi. For your two submissions of magazine-related variants that I have on hold, typical practice is to merge the records for the individual issues into a single year-based editor record. Did you mean to do that, or are you making variants for a different reason? Thanks. --MartyD 08:55, 13 September 2017 (EDT)

I meant to do that.--Dirk P Broer 12:22, 13 September 2017 (EDT)

Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy

Are you intending Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy to be a publisher series or a title series? You are currently adding it to both which is incorrect. It should be one or the other. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2017 (EDT)

I am forcing the moderator in charge to look at this series, as titles already appear to have been entered as publisher series, as title series and one even as both.--Dirk P Broer 18:21, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
BTW: looks like a clear publisher series to me, though one can argue that this title should be included too.--Dirk P Broer 18:22, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
There is no such thing as a moderator in charge. A better way would have been posting at the Community Portal or the Moderator Noticeboard. The way things get worked off in the queue (multiple moderators working at different times), it could have easily been overlooked (especially since you didn't have a moderator note). I will delete the title series and make it into a publisher series. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:31, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
As long as there is consistency in the database, I am happy.--Dirk P Broer 18:33, 25 September 2017 (EDT)

Orbit Science Fiction Yearbook

Cover artist of Yearbook 1 is Brian Waugh, see The Last Castle / Nightwings (Tor Double).
Cover artist of Yearbook Two is also Brian Waugh, according to Sztuka Science Fiction Art. Horzel 08:09, 28 September 2017 (EDT)

Oké!--Dirk P Broer 08:28, 28 September 2017 (EDT)

OCLC for Vortex

Hi. Your modification to Vortex, adding the live LCCN, dropped the OCLC link from the pub notes but did not add it to the external identifiers list. I checked the link that had been there, and the entry it pointed to seemed valid, so I added that as a second external identifier while I had it in the submission for copying + pasting. If you deliberately wanted to get rid of it, it will have to be removed again -- I couldn't tell. --MartyD 07:48, 30 September 2017 (EDT)

Something went wrong upon submitting (I did a second upon discovering that the original LCCN was not valid).--Dirk P Broer 07:57, 30 September 2017 (EDT)

Wanderers of Time

Replaced cover scan of this with full wraparound cover. --Mavmaramis 07:52, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

Looking forward to it! Present scan is rather bad...--Dirk P Broer 07:54, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

Stowaway to Mars

ReplacedAmazon cover scan of this with full wraparound cover. I did nave copies of both this and the prevuious book but the spines of both mine were white - I found replacement copies today in my local Oxfam shop. --Mavmaramis 07:58, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

Long live the charity shops! Some major finds I did there...--Dirk P Broer 08:09, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

I added other prices to your verified

I added other prices to your verified [1].Don Erikson 16:29, 11 October 2017 (EDT)

The Best of Harry Harrison

Hi, the cover artist of this is not Chris Achilleos, but Alan Craddock. The cover is signed with an A in a triangle, not an A in a circle. And you'll find the art on an Alan Craddock site, and not on chrisachilleos.co.uk. Thanks. Horzel 06:10, 12 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! I've edited the entry.--Dirk P Broer 06:15, 12 October 2017 (EDT)

I added the Canadian price and number line to your verified

I added the Canadian price and number line to your verified [2].Don Erikson 14:48, 12 October 2017 (EDT)

Lazarus #7 (Jonathan Press edition)

Hello, I noticed that you changed a portion of the Notes section for this publication: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?637734 where a list of titles originally in small caps was changed to italic font. Although italics would be proper for a user referring to publication titles, this list was given in quotes to indicate that it was shown exactly this way on the copyright page of this publication, including the use of small caps, not italics. Unless there is a specific policy regarding this, I'd prefer that it be changed back to its original form. All the best, Ldb001 02:03, 20 October 2017 (EDT)

I did that because the html used to do this ([small][/small] (or even [smaller][/smaller]), but with chevrons instead of angle brackets) was being reported as 'unsupported' at http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/cleanup.cgi.--Dirk P Broer 07:42, 20 October 2017 (EDT)
Changed it back to [small][/small]-still with italics because all-caps look like shouting.--Dirk P Broer 07:51, 20 October 2017 (EDT)

Kathleen De Grave

Since her Amazon page says that "she was born near Green Bay, Wisconsin", should we change her place of birth from "Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA" to just "Wisconsin, USA"? Ahasuerus 10:34, 20 October 2017 (EDT)

Her surname makes finding her place of birth rather difficult, as you only get grave-related hits..--Dirk P Broer 04:51, 21 October 2017 (EDT)

The Jagged Orbit

Updated the Printing History and added other prices to The Jagged Orbit. Replaced the Amazon Cover art with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 12:42, 20 October 2017 (EDT)

2010: Odyssey Two

2010: Odyssey Two: my copy matches this record but has “Special overseas edition” on the copyright page. Does your copy contain this line, if not then I will create a new record? --AndyjMo 18:03, 29 October 2017 (EDT)

My copy has that line too, you'd best add it to the note field.--Dirk P Broer 21:16, 29 October 2017 (EDT)
See my answer elsewhere, in this case it's better to create a new publication. Hauck 04:49, 30 October 2017 (EDT)
I've created a new record. --AndyjMo 07:02, 30 October 2017 (EDT)
I'll verify it as soon as I see it and un-verify the present record.--Dirk P Broer 08:18, 30 October 2017 (EDT)
Approved. Hauck 08:44, 30 October 2017 (EDT)

The Clone Codes

i'm adding some stuff to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?305363 that you verified, if that's ok. thanks. gzuckier 06:56, 9 November 2017 (EST)

Dangerous Visions 2

Replaced Amazon cover of Dangerous Vision 2 with one from my own collection --Mavmaramis 12:09, 10 November 2017 (EST)

Time to become a moderator?

Hi, Dirk! I personally think it's long overdue that you may become a moderator. But before I propose that officially, it is helpful to ask you first if you're willing. As for the ability, I do think that there should not be much doubt. But please take a look into the moderator help screen and the moderator qualifications first before answering. Christian Stonecreek 04:20, 11 November 2017 (EST)

I am still wondering what went wrong last time this was asked of me.--Dirk P Broer 12:06, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Hi, Dirk! Does that mean you are accepting? (I hope so). Christian Stonecreek 13:49, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Yes, I am.--Dirk P Broer 17:36, 13 November 2017 (EST)
I'm glad to hear that, I have started the nomination process. Good luck! Christian Stonecreek 09:14, 14 November 2017 (EST)
Congratulations, you are now a moderator! If in doubt, don't hesitate to solicit others' opinions :) Ahasuerus 23:54, 20 November 2017 (EST)
P.S. I have added your name to this template -- please feel free to flesh it out when you have a moment. Ahasuerus 23:57, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Thanks! I've updated the template as well.--Dirk P Broer 06:04, 21 November 2017 (EST)
Great! Congratulations from me as well; and welcome as moderator! Christian Stonecreek 06:52, 21 November 2017 (EST)

With the Lightnings

My copy of With the Lightnings has the Copyright date as 1998. Is the date of 1995 in the current record a typing error? --AndyjMo 12:33, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Oops! Thanks for catching...--Dirk P Broer 12:40, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Review

We don't link reviews to chapbooks, but instead to their shortfiction contents. I have rejected the 4 submissions you had that would have changed the linked review from the shortfiction to the chapbook version. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:05, 18 November 2017 (EST)

Sorry, I didn't knew that. I specially checked how the stories were published (Chapterbook only) to make sure the reviews were about chapterbooks.--Dirk P Broer 11:30, 18 November 2017 (EST)

Explaining the changes to "The Ghost Stories of Edith Wharton"

You rejected some edits -- I guess I should have tried to explain in the moderator notes, but it's a long story. You see, in 1937 a collection of 11 of Edith Wharton's ghost stories was published under the title Ghosts. It contained a preface and an afterword by her, which for some reason are not in the current record; I want to import them, so that's why I changed the date. In 1973, Scribner republished this collection in toto as The Ghost Stories of Edith Wharton. Most of the other publications--Fantasy and Horror Classics and Virago--are also reprints of the same thing.

However, in 2009, David Stuart Davies made a selection of 15 stories, and compiled them without Wharton's preface and afterword, but with an introduction of his own. You see, it really is a different book, and that would be clear if Wordsworth Editions hadn't chosen to give it the unimaginative title of The Ghost Stories of Edith Wharton.

I hope that clarifies things. OK if I resubmit those edits?--Vasha 07:12, 23 November 2017 (EST)

OK, and please check the page count. WorldCat has 292 for the Wordsworth.--Dirk P Broer 07:14, 23 November 2017 (EST)
292 pages is correct. Also, on second thought I can't tell if the afterword is in the 1937 edition (the preface certainly is) so I'm going to leave that as the later date only. --Vasha 07:30, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Publication series

You asked me why I named the publication series the same as the publisher. Here's why: House of Fallen Trees copyright page, I can always change it if need be. MLB 10:01, 2 December 2017 (EST)

What is the added value of entering the same information in two different fields? Look at e.g. Ballantine Books for an example how Publication series is used..--Dirk P Broer 21:30, 2 December 2017 (EST)
Okay. I saw, but didn't see, if you know what I mean. I'll just list the numbers then. Sometimes common sense ain't so common. Sorry. MLB 20:11, 3 December 2017 (EST)
Perhaps you should read the help for this field, I hope that clears it for you.--Dirk P Broer 05:52, 4 December 2017 (EST)

AutorenEdition

Hello Dirk, please take a look here and on the end of the page here. Regards Henna 16:08, 10 December 2017 (EST)

Funny, the Deutsche Nationalbibliothek has it as Bertelsmann - München : Verlag Autoren-Edition and the German Amazon has the book as published by Verlag Autoren Edition. As the book was published in 1978, AutorenEdition / Bertelsmann could be used, or your original can be submitted again.--Dirk P Broer 05:38, 11 December 2017 (EST)

page count

Hello Dirk, I think your explanation to the page count is not current, please look here. Regards Henna 13:21, 21 December 2017 (EST)

I think you are right, but I also think -as there are two editions involved, and three verifiers- you can best take this up with JLochhas and above all with Stonecreek, he owns (and has verified) the other edition -also with 313+[1].--Dirk P Broer 14:26, 21 December 2017 (EST)

Stories for Chip

Hi, Dirk. Your rejection noted, "Please make this a new edition". I'm guessing this means you believe there was a 2015 hardcover edition of 'Stories for Chip'. If that's not correct, can you please clarify? If that is your assumption, do you have any evidence of that 2015 hardcover? I know the 2015 TPO is print-on-demand, but I'm pretty confident Rosarium never offered a hardcover POD until now. My bookstore in Seattle was University Books, which has a great SF buyer, Duane Wilkins. Duane hosted Nisi Shawl's launch of 'Stories for Chip' in July 2015 (at Nalo Hopkinson's Clarion West reading.) More than once since then I lamented with Duane & Nisi that there was still no hardcover. If you've got evidence there WAS a prior hardcover, I'm REALLY interested, and can't wait to share with them. :) Markwood 14:14, 27 December 2017 (EST)

2015 edition with the right ISBN is shown here: Amazon.com, Worldcat, Goodreads.--Dirk P Broer 20:04, 27 December 2017 (EST)
I remain skeptical. Neither Worldcat nor Goodreads identifies the print book as hardcover. The Amazon listing for a hardcover notes, "This item has not yet been released. You may pre-order it now and we will deliver it to you when it arrives" (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1495601951/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=&sr=). None of the hardcovers on ABE includes a dust jacket. I can PV a hardcover, but I can't determine whether there was a 2015 hardcover, nor whether the hardcover I just received from the publisher was previously available in this edition. Bottom line, I won't submit any edit at this time. Thanks. Markwood 11:41, 28 December 2017 (EST)
Your PV copy does have a copyright page, containing remarks about edition and printing (or a number line) I suppose?--Dirk P Broer 15:15, 28 December 2017 (EST)
LCCN 2015943602 states a year of publication 2015 for a hardcover with ISBN 9781495601958.--Dirk P Broer 15:28, 28 December 2017 (EST)
Yes, my hardcover has a copyright page, and, other than having the hardcover ISBN, it's identical to copyright page of the trade paper I acquired in July 2015. No statement of edition or printing on either. I sent enquiries to ABE booksellers, and got back 1 confirmation of a hardcover with dust jacket that's been listed for over a year. Given that, I agree with you that I should assume the hardcover I received from Rosarium is an instance of the 2015 hardcover edition. I've PV'd that edition and will update it with info & image of my hardcover. Thanks for your guidance on this. Markwood 13:39, 1 January 2018 (EST)

The Thrill Book, May 15, 1919

Re this edit: NONFICTION should only be used for publications. Nonfiction content within pubs should be ESSAY type. It's a frequent error new users make so something for which to keep an eye out. In this particular case, I deleted the NONFICTION entries as they are non-genre. Also, please consider placing the {{welcome}} template on a new user's talk page after you process their edit. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:23, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Thanks for correcting me. No easy job, moderator.--Dirk P Broer 20:41, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Unterwegs zum Kalten Stern

Hello Dirk, thanks for your help, sometimes when I want finished my contribution, everything is done. In this case you are to hurry. The author of this publication is really Janusz Zajdel. Your help to create a pseudonym is very welcome. Thanks Henna 12:43, 30 December 2017 (EST)

I got triggered by the 'unknown author' flag. Okay, if you are sure the name of the author on the title page is really just 'Janusz Zajdel', I've made him a variant name of Janusz A. Zajdel, and the book a variant title of the same author. Unfortunately the original Prawo do powrotu is not yet in our database.--Dirk P Broer 14:00, 30 December 2017 (EST)
Hello Dirk, Prawo do powrotu is the correct parent. Thanks Henna 15:22, 30 December 2017 (EST)
Now everything is fine, thanks for your help. Henna 08:39, 31 December 2017 (EST)
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