User talk:Dirk P Broer/Archive-2013

Salvatore's The Ghost King

Could you please confirm the page count and ISBN of this record? According to the OCLC record (which I'm aware you usually find of very little use), the page count is 342 and the book contains the ISBN-13. At the time this record was created, the robot entered ISBN-10s, regardless of what was actually stated in the publication. It would also be a good idea to remove the robot-generated source from the note field. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:40, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Checked, corrected page count (342 is the last printed page and followed by eight blanco and two black pages) and re-populated the noted field. Will add a cover scan including spine soon.--Dirk P Broer 20:51, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Beyond the Safe Zone

Re [1] I added a cover artist credit Welshgriffin 17:38, 8 January 2013 (UTC)Welshgriffin

Well, who is the artist and where did you find the information?--Dirk P Broer 00:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm holding the submission to give cover art credit to Fred Gambino. The submitter states "I own the original painting" in his Note to the Moderator. I asked him to provide some further corroborating evidence of the work's artist credit. I have found this web page which seems to be sufficient proof. I'll accept the submission unless you object. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Wish I had the money to buy such art....no objections here.--Dirk P Broer 00:49, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Same here. :) Submission accepted. I'll notify the editor as I'm not sure if he'll know to check back on this page. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 01:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Forgot to say, I've given the source in the note field, assuming the artist isn't credited in the publication. Mhhutchins 01:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll enter my complete 80-odd volume Silverberg collection tomorrow! Just checked this title, no cover artist credited.--Dirk P Broer 01:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

The Brain-Stealers

Found a 'signature' on the cover of [this]. Added the artist and edited the notes. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Deep Space

Can you confirm the publisher as given in this record? It came up as an unknown publisher in the db, but we do have Abelard-Schuman and that's how the OCLC record gives their name. Thanks for looking. Also, it would have been better to clone the Thomas Nelson record, which will save you from having to make a second submission to import the contents into the new record. Mhhutchins 22:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

It says 'Abelard' on both spine and title page. Only on the copyright page there is mentioning of Abelard-Schuman.--Dirk P Broer 22:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

New Dimensions 8

Re this record: If there is no record on the Library of Congress website , it's not necessary to attempt to link it. The user only gets an error page. In cases like this, I give the number (unlinked) and add the note "There is no record for this LCCN on the Library of Congress website as of 2013-01-09" (or whatever date it is, just in case it should ever happen to appear). Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Seems like the library of congress is either a virtual black hole, or sells tons of material each year in order to make place for new material.--Dirk P Broer 23:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Neither. This happens but is relatively rare. Occasionally someone just fails to enter the record into the computer, which has nothing to do with the physical book and its availability. And sometimes the publisher will print the wrong number on the copyright page, which happens much more often than the first error. Mhhutchins 23:32, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Born With The Dead

Re Born with the Dead The website here [2] confirms the cover artist. Welshgriffin 05:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Not the usual Burns style, guess it is an early work.--Dirk P Broer 09:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Keep the Giraffe Burning

Hello, Dirk! In my editions of Sladek's collection there are only a Mr and a Ms in Mr. and Ms. America (no punctuation). If you'd like to look up your verified copy on p. 122, I'd do the changing in one go (if it's the same there). Stonecreek 04:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

It is indeed the same there. Can you by any chance try to verify which of our versions was indeed a Peter Goodfellow cover, and which was published first? Mine (with the burning giraffe) states: 'Published by Granada Publishing Limited in Panther Books 1977. over ISBN 0 586 04757 3 over A Panther Original' as first lines of the copyright page, and costed 80p. Judged by the price I like to think that my version was published earlier. --Dirk P Broer 12:35, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

It appears to have been translated into German: Lass die Giraffe brennen.--Dirk P Broer 13:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder! (I own this publication, but haven't come around to enter it; looking back, it may have been wise - the fragmentation of Heavens Below would possibly have been missed by me).

On the case of first publication of Sladek's collection: there must have been a omission on the side of the publisher, because the copyright page of my edition does state exactly the same! Judging by the higher price I'd say yours is the first edition & printing (and now that I belive in that: 'your' cover art does look much more to be in the vein of Goodfellow, although he is also stated as artist!). I'd say, the responsible editor has been a bit sloppy! I'll inform the other pv'ers and direct them here. Thank you for your open eyes! Stonecreek 14:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Dirk, can you possibly update your edition with the information stated on the copyright page? (And is the full title for the story mentioned in the next line perhaps also stated on its beginning page; it is not on toc?).

Bill and Willem: I also found the comma missing in The Hammer of Evil, or Career Opportunities at the Pascal Business School and would like to change that also. [This http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19326] is the publication in question. Stonecreek 15:08, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Isn't that a way of citing a title along with its subtitle? It could also have been written as The Hammer of Evil: or, Career Opportunities at the Pascal Business School.--Dirk P Broer 10:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, yes and no: The long title is what is to be found in the presumed second printing on the title page of the story - and that is what is to go by as far the rules are concerned. Since you are the master of the presumed first printing you know best what is stated on the title page of said story. I do think of the two publications as different printings (with a different cover), so it seemed reasonable that the contents would be identical. Stonecreek 10:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It is just that -at least in my printing- it is so clearly printed as

The Hammer of Evil or Career Opportunities at the Pascal Business School

and not as The Hammer of Evil or Career Opportunities at the Pascal Business School.--Dirk P Broer 11:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

I believe the comma is standard practice in this kind of title, and should not be deleted. Dirk, it also means the title in your pub should be changed to reflect what's on the titlepage.

Christian and Bill, it's higly likely we have a second printing. Perhaps the notes should be clearer about this, but unless there's evidence otherwise (some sources mention 1978), the publication date should remain 1977.

About the cover, I would not be surprised if both were by Goodfellow. I see some resemblance to covers like this and this. Just my two cents. --Willem H. 19:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks to you all for clearing things up. I updated the notes, loaded up a new ISFDB-based cover scan and even added the interior art for the afterword.

I also added the interior art to your publication, Dirk, because I think it's most probably in there, too (and I haven't figured out if the pub. listing for it wouldn't list Bill's, Willem's and mine publication first if I had entered it there first). If this isn't to your liking, please remove it! Stonecreek 10:04, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Linking to the Locus database

Re this record: Don't link to any interior anchors in the Locus database. They shift when the database is updated, making them impossible to link to. (Explained here.) Just bite "Data from Locus1" and that should be sufficient. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:37, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll set my teeth into it.--Dirk P Broer 10:19, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

LOL! I presume you meant 'cite' rather than 'bite' but Dirk's response is the best laugh I've had in days. BLongley 12:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Considering they're only two keys from each other...and my typing skills, it's a wonder I've never done that before. But I do admit that Dirk's response was deliciously funny! Mhhutchins 19:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Mabel Marlow[e]

Should the legal name on Mabel Marlowe include an "e"? --MartyD 02:36, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't -as I explained in the biographic note-.--Dirk P Broer 09:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Stars in Shroud

Added notes [there were none] and two minor contents to [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:06, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Archiving?

Please consider moving some of your talk page again. It's about 4 times larger than recommended for browsers, and I frankly suffered from looking at it - partly my fault, I moved here without realising my broadband would be about 10% as good as my last place. :-/ BLongley 11:20, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Hellflower

Scanned an image for [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:29, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Mission to the Stars

Seems to be two records for the same printing, [1] and [2]. At least they both record the same data?? --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that looks like a double entry to me.--Dirk P Broer 09:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Publication date for The Tragical Comedy

An email providing information as to a more specific publication date is a secondary source that should be documented, so I took your note to the moderator, modified it slightly, and put it in The Tragical Comedy's publication notes. Please adjust as appropriate. Thanks. --MartyD 13:34, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

The Shadow Hunter

Hello, Dirk! I added some notes, the cover artist and a replacement for the amazon image to this. Stonecreek 14:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Two notes added . . .

. . . for this and this: explaining where cover art was credited. Stonecreek 20:18, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

. . . amd also for this. I also added cover image & artist. Stonecreek 19:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

David Thompson

When changing the author credit of a title record to disambiguate the author, you should also change the author credit of any publications which are under this title record. In this case the author credit for the pubs became "David Thompson (1941-)" while the title record was credited to "David Thompson (1914-1988)". I corrected the pub records' author field to match that of the title record's author field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I added the other price to your verified

I added the other price to your verified [3].Don Erikson 20:54, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I added the other price to your verified

I added the other price to your verified [4].Don Erikson

Thieves' World series (Penguin)

Hello Dirk, the cover art of Shadows of Sanctuary, Tales from the Vulgar Unicorn and Thieves' World is by Bruce Pennington, according to the checklist in this publication. Horzel 11:36, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I already thought as much, thanks for the confirmation!--Dirk P Broer 15:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Could you apply the cover artist to these titles please, according to a discussion I had, I'm not allowed to edit your PV'd publication. Thanks! Horzel 12:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

But then I should have to make the same request to Bill Longley, as he is the Primary Verifier, I am only the secondary. You can already find the first part of this discussion on his discussion page.--Dirk P Broer 12:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Eternal Light...

... cover image and notes added here. Stonecreek 16:05, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

And I also added a note on the credit for the cover art here. Stonecreek 16:16, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Robots and Changelings

I expanded the notes to del Rey's Robots and Changelings. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 01:31, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

KJ Bishop

I rejected your change to make "KJ Bishop" a pseudonym of K. J. Bishop. Instead, I edited the title record to change the credit to "K. J. Bishop". The ISFDB standard is to record initials followed by a period and a space even if the period or space is omitted in the publication; unless it is clearly the author's choice to omit the period. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't me who entered the KJ, nor me who approved it.--Dirk P Broer 13:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Right, I know that. But you were the one who varianted it and that is what I rejected. I was also letting you know the standard so you would know the proper way to fix any such errors you might find in the future. Since you're doing a great job of going through our authors and adding information, you may stumble across this case again. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:02, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Oké!--Dirk P Broer 14:11, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Eugen Saenger

Before creating a pseudonym, it would probably be best to contact the primary verifier of this record to confirm that the author is credited correctly in the ISFDB record. It's possible that the "ä" could have been entered by a previous editor as "ae" and the verifier failed to see it. Quite often in the past, editors who were unable to enter specialized characters in the database resorted to this sort of "substitution". Mhhutchins 20:06, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I've left a note on the verifier's talk page. Mhhutchins 22:06, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

According to LibraryThing the first verifier should have correctly credited the record in question. Then again, better safe than sorry.--Dirk P Broer 23:25, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

A date change

Being you are the 3rd verifier and the top one still available here, I informing you I changed the date as per the copyright page to your verified [5]Don Erikson 21:34, 20 March 2013 (UTC).

Ignore this! I was wrong and hopefully I deleted it in time.Don Erikson 21:34, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Yevgeny Voiskunsky

I am afraid I had to reject the submission that would have added "USSR" to Yevgeny Voiskunsky's "Birthplace" field. The USSR was created in December 1922 while Voiskunsky was born in April. Ahasuerus 16:13, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I can also call it "Baku, Azerbeidjan, Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic", which would be right. Wikipedia: "By March 1920, it was obvious that Soviet Russia would attack the much-needed Baku. Vladimir Lenin said that the invasion was justified as Soviet Russia could not survive without Baku's oil.[61][62] Independent Azerbaijan lasted only 23 months until the Bolshevik 11th Soviet Red Army invaded it, establishing the Azerbaijan SSR on April 28, 1920".--Dirk P Broer 20:02, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Technically, the three Transcaucasian countries remained separate states ruled by their local Communist parties (which, however, remained constituent parts of the Russian Communist party) until March 12, 1922, when a new federation was formed. That federation was first called "Federative Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of Transcaucasia", but the name was changed to "Transcaucasian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic" on December 13, shortly before the TSFSR became a part of the newly formed USSR. (The process was highly controversial within the Soviet Communist party and was one of the causes of Lenin's break with Stalin in early 1923.) The TSFSR was eventually dissolved in December 1936 when a new Soviet constitution was adopted and the three countries re-entered the USSR directly. I guess we could say "Baku, Azerbaijan SSR, Federative Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of Transcaucasia"? Ahasuerus 21:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

That's alright with me, but I hope that fits within the margin of numbers of characters for that field!--Dirk P Broer 22:12, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hm, that's a good point, the field is limited to 64 characters... Ahasuerus 23:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Let's drop the 'SSR' from the name and -when that's not enough- 'Federative Union of'.--Dirk P Broer 00:03, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I am thinking that it may be better to change the field definition so that it would accept longer strings. It's the only field in the author table that imposes this limitation and there is really no reason to keep it. Ahasuerus 00:17, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

The database definition has been upgraded and the value of the field has been changed to "Baku, Azerbaijan SSR, Federative Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of Transcaucasia". Perfectionists of the world, unite! :-) Ahasuerus 20:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! If I am permitted to propose more enhancements: Links made to SFE3 like links to Wikipedia and IMDb (so a 'special link' -also a wished by David Langford-) --Dirk P Broer 19:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

We have an FR to "[a]dd links from Author pages (Summary, etc) to the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction (3rd edition) and Goodreads." I have been mulling it over lately and my current thinking is that the best way to do this is not to keep adding new fields for "recognized" sites the way it's currently done for Wikipedia and IMDB, but rather to change the way external links are displayed on the Summary page(s). For example, John Bellairs's page currently says:

Wikipedia Entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellairs
IMDB Entry: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0068662/
Webpage: http://www.bellairsia.com/
Webpage: http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A533387 

instead, we could change the display logic to something a bit more user-friendly, e.g.:

Wikipedia, IMDB, Webpage 1, Webpage 2

This approach will make it almost trivial to add support for additional "recognized" sites such as SFE3, Goodreads or whatever else may come down the pike. We can also replace SFE3 links with their image () if their editors prefer it that way. As an added advantage, this approach will make it easier to distinguish between Wikipedia-EN, Wikipedia-FR, Wikipedia-DE, etc since they will be clearly labeled that way on the page. Eventually we could fold the Wikipedia data entry field and the IMDB data entry field into the multiply repeating "Web Page" field, but that can wait. I plan to post this proposal on the Community Portal shortly. Ahasuerus 02:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

and a combo box for entering the format of a book, instead of having enter a code. In the end the same value enters the database, it is just so much more user-friendly.--Dirk P Broer 19:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we have an FR for this and I expect that it will be implemented later this year. Ahasuerus 02:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Changing an author's canonical name

I'm sure you know that when you change an author's canonical name, you automatically change the credit of every record in the database under the original name. If so, are you certain that the two records under George Russell (A.E) were published as by "George Russell (Æ)"? Mhhutchins 01:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

According to this OCLC record, the introduction is credited to "A. E.", so I'm going to change the credit of this record (it was merged with one that was already in the database under the credit of A. E.). That left one SHORTFICTION record: The Cave of Lilith, under the old name. Since this OCLC record credits the story to "AE", I can't be sure if the initials have been dropped from the actual publication's credit. So I'll normalize the credit to "A. E.", which will delete the name "George Russell (A.E)" from the database, making the submission moot. Mhhutchins 02:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

This brings up the question of whether the records credited to A. E. could possibly be AE or Æ. I think we should let sleeping dogs lie in this case, and wait until someone with a primary source can confirm how the author is actually credited in the publications, and whether there are variants (thus pseudonyms) to be created. Mhhutchins 02:09, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

If we are to believe SFE3 "Æ: Pseudonym used by Irish poet George William Russell (1867-1935) for all his writing". The variants may have been created for purely typographical reasons, such as the impossibility to enter it in a catalog under the intended 'Æ'.--Dirk P Broer 11:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree, but until there are primary verifiers, or more reliable secondary sources for the publications themselves, I'm not going to be changing any of the ISFDB records based on this assumption. Mhhutchins 15:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

A tour via Goodreads and Librarything leads me to believe that every possible variant at one time has been used for this author, especially after his works became free of copyright....--Dirk P Broer 15:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Luc Descamps

It looks like the "De donkere getallen" series (or some parts thereof) is about to be released in English. When you get a chance, could you please check Luc Descamps's Summary page to see if I got everything right? I haven't entered any of the subsequent volumes yet, but I am sure we'll get to it soon enough... Ahasuerus 05:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

The series is named "De donkere getallen" and the first book to be published in that series (2003) had as name just "De donkere getallen" and saw 4 printings. The 2013 new edition has as sub-title "1: Zwarte Gaten". A seventh volume is about to be published. The protagonist is called Harry de Wilde -at least in the Dutch version, in the English version he is called Tim-.--Dirk P Broer 11:01, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for checking! Interesting about the translator changing the protagonist's name from Harry to Tim. I wonder if s/he was thinking of Harry Potter... Ahasuerus 16:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Vance's Son of the Tree

I'm holding a submission to add a new undated Mayflower printing to this title, but it's identical to an existing record except for the price. In the note field you say the "Original price blacked out." If I understand correctly this means that a new price has been printed on top of or beside what was once the original price. That could mean that this is just a redistribution of the original printing and would not require the creation of a new record. Is there any interior evidence that this is a new printing? Perhaps they just used some left over covers from the original printing and overprinted them with the new price. In that case, a new record would be OK, and I would accept the submission. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 16:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

The space of the original price has been overprinted with a black rectangle with the new prices (in green), as with other records in the database from that period. There is nothing in the interior that suggests a new printing, but the same holds for other records with a mentioning of 'overprint' in the note field.--Dirk P Broer 16:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

If others are doing that, then I would point out why I believe they're creating phantom records. I have several hardcover books in which the publisher has placed stickers over the original price. Would you think that that situation calls for the creation of a separate record? It seems very comparable. At least, to me. If a publisher changes the list price for a book which has no printed price at all, would it be necessary to create a new record even though the books themselves are identical, being from the same print run? (Many book clubs, university presses and textbook publishers follow this practice.) I'll remove my hold and allow another moderator the chance to handle the submission in whatever way they deem correct. Mhhutchins 05:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you and have withdrawn my submission. But you might perhaps want to have this same discussion with the persons who submitted and moderated these entries: The Houses of Iszm and Afterwar, just two random examples.--Dirk P Broer 09:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Both have been primary verified by other moderators. I have to pick and choose my battles when it comes to how other moderators interpret the standards. And my feelings about this particular issue aren't very strong. (That's why I released the hold on your submission.) Feel free to bring the subject up for discussion on the Rules & Standards page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:16, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

John Russell

Instead of changing the name of the parent record from "John Russell Fearn" to "John Russell", I broke the variant relationship between the records and then deleted the parent one which credited Fearn. Mhhutchins 19:34, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I did not push it all the way because there is still a record left where John Russell Fearn uses John Russell as alias, but this might be a valid one, as Steve Holland pointed out to me "John Russell was an American screenwriter and had no connection with a minor British publisher like Paget. Fearn, on the other hand, did write for Paget under pen-names and under his own name. 'Account Settled' was later reprinted under Fearn's own name". He must know more than we as we only have one book published by Paget, John Russell's.--Dirk P Broer 22:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

One novel written by Fearn was published as by "John Russell", but I disregarded the ISFDB policy of creating a pseudonym. (I kept the varianting.) It just doesn't make sense to create a disambiguated name for this one title. Mhhutchins 01:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

J. W. Schutz

I moved the link of the author's son's bio to a wiki bio page, and noted the discrepancy in the sources for the author's birthplace. It is more appropriately a source for data and given on the wiki page, than it is a webpage about the author, which I believe is the intent of the webpage links on the author's summary page. If you disagree with this decision, start a discussion on one of the community pages. Mhhutchins 16:05, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I had given the link to the son's page mainly to support the place of birth, of which I also notified SFE3.--Dirk P Broer 16:22, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying SFE3. I know from personal experience they're very receptive to corrections. Let me know their response so that we can update the wiki bio to remove the note about the discrepancy. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 16:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

No personal mail this time, but they changed the place of birth: born (offshore) Seattle, Washington: 8 May 1912.--Dirk P Broer 08:10, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Rocket Ship/Rocketship Galileo

Does your NEL edition of [this] have the title as two or three words? Just updated the '73 printing and created the Variant [mine has Rocketship]. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:11, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Mine has -like the cover- a two word title on it's title page (so 'Rocketship'). Thanks for catching!--Dirk P Broer 19:26, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

William H. Keith, Jr. and Bruce Boxleitner

I have on hold your submission that would make William H. Keith, Jr. a pseudonym of Bruce Boxleitner. There's a pseudonym relationship in the other direction already, so this won't work. You provided links in the notes but no explanation, and I don't see anything in either of them relating to Keith. It looks to me like there should be no relationship between Boxleitner and Keith at all. But it's early in the morning, and no coffee yet.... Is that what you meant? If so, cancel your submission and do a Make/Remove Pseudonym on Bruce Boxleitner, using the spiffy new "Remove" button you'll find in the form, or specifying a parent record # of "0". Or I can do it, if you'd rather. Thanks. --MartyD 11:03, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

That is most certainly not what I meant. I just wanted to remove Bruce Boxleitner being a pseudonym of William H. Keith, Jr. I did see no button, spiffy or not....Thanks for pointing me into the good direction!--Dirk P Broer 11:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, the "0" thing is for variants. The dangers of insufficient coffee. :-) That did it. I will get rid of the variants. --MartyD 12:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops. What's interesting is the note here, claiming Keith is ghost writer for those Boxleitner works. Perhaps you could see what the SFE folks think. I will have to ask what we do to record ghost writing.... --MartyD 12:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

So this book is the same as this one... It really was William H. Keith writing as Bruce Boxleitner all the time.--Dirk P Broer 13:42, 13 May 2013 (UTC) --Dirk P Broer 13:37, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it seems so. Michael gave a nice how-to write-up here. I'm going to experiment with some variants and see what I can do with the display. --MartyD 01:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

See what you think: Frontier Earth series display and Bruce Boxleitner's bibliography. In the fake title, I put a link to Keith's Frontier Earth page. --MartyD 01:38, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Series display looks good, as does the biography. Could not find the fake title with link you mentioned, so I made a series comment.--Dirk P Broer 08:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

This is the fake title. Part of its trickery makes it un-clickable in the bibliography and multi-title search results. Putting those links in the series comments is a good idea. --MartyD 09:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

But how would people get from here to This? In other words: what links to This? [6] doesn't and nor does [7] or [8].--Dirk P Broer 09:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

That's what I mean. The way the title is constructed, it prevents its display from being the link it normally should be. The only way to get to it is to search by title for the text (or unique portion thereof), which takes you directly to the only match instead of presenting you a list of matches. For example, if you do All Titles and "credited to Bruce" in the search box, you'll get to it. With a little more creativity, we could get some portion of its text to be a clickable link, too, but it's probably not worth it. --MartyD 12:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Roger Bellon

Hello, I've approved your sub for this french author. Note that the proposed birthplace "Neuilly sur Seine, Hauts-de-Seine, France" is incorrect for the year 1953 as the "Hauts-de-Seine" administrative subdivision (a "département" in France) didin't exist before 1964. Hauck 13:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Submitted a change to Seine-et-Oise. Thanks for the correction!--Dirk P Broer 15:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Georges Le Faure

I have your edit to Georges Le Faure on hold. The edit is setting the language field to "English". However, I would think it would be more appropriate to be "French". When editing an author whose language field is empty, it defaults to "English". Did you intend that? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

It should indeed be French. Most of the times i manage to catch the language field, sometimes even after submitting, but this one seems to have slipped the mazes.--Dirk P Broer 09:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Happens to me as well. Approved & changed to "French". -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Castello N. Holford

Dirk, I accepted your edit to add details to the author listing for Castello N. Holford, although under his canonical name he was originally (and probably mistakenly) still listed as "Costello". I've made that a correction, as I don't see any mention anywhere that he ever went under that name. PeteYoung 00:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You can see the correct name faintly on the title page here.--Dirk P Broer 00:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure "Costello" was a typo on its original entry. PeteYoung 00:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The Secret People

Hello, can you have a look at your copy of this book to see if it's the eighth printing as is mine. Thanks. Hervé Hauck 13:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

My copy says -as in the notes- "Eighth impression".--Dirk P Broer 18:32, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

This bit of data has just been inserted by me, that's why you saw it. It's indeed the eighth printing and I don't have to clone it. Thanks. Hauck 18:58, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

The Atlantic Abomination

Turns out there are two different printings with the same Ace catalog #, [1] and [2]. Have explained the differences in the notes. Not sure which one you have [or, oh joy, maybe a third printing!!] It is Ace, after all! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 13:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Mine is a [B], I've un-verified the [A].--Dirk P Broer 13:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Kersh's On an Odd Note

I expanded the notes to Kersh's On an Odd Note detailing additional secondary sources. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 11:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Kuttner (and Moore?) - The Mask of Circe

Could I get you to check the title page of The Mask of Circe to see if it is credited to Kuttner alone, or if it includes a credit to C.L. Moore? While I can see the book cover only credits Kuttner, E.F. Bleiler in The Guide to Supernatural Fiction credits to them both (though he gives the date as 1975, matching the copyright). Additionally, Reginald3 makes a point of saying the book was originally published under Kuttner's name alone. I'll leave a note on the other verifiers page directing him here. I plan on expanding the notes adding references to Reginald and Bleiler if we determine this is the same edition that they reference. Thanks for looking. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 14:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, The title page states 'by Henry Kuttner and C. L. Moore', so this is the edition Reginald and Bleiler referenced.--Dirk P Broer 18:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the confirmation, Dirk. Ron, in other cases, where there is no primary verifier for the record, a good source for title page credits is OCLC (unlike many other sources which give only cover credit). This OCLC record (which is linked in the record's Note field) confirms that both authors are credited on the title page of this edition (look at the Responsibility line). I'll leave it to either of you (or Bluesman) to correct the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:25, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Afterwords for Eyes of Amber and Other Stories?

Hi, Dirk! In the german edition of this collection (to be entered) there are afterwords for each shortfiction by Vinge, which I suspect to be not original german. Are they also here? (And would you also say that the cover art illustrates the title story?) Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 08:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, there are indeed afterwords after each story -not mentioned in the TOC of the UK edition. The cover is Peter Jones' interpretation of the title story afaik, read the book some 30 years ago.--Dirk P Broer 20:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for looking up the contents, Dirk! Well, it is also some 30 years ago that I first read that particular story, but I am now reading some more by Vinge: things I haven't come around at that time, the collection in question among them. And thanks for adding them, also! Stonecreek 07:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

When you imported the contents from the record that had the afterwords, it duplicated the titles which were already in your record. Although they're not visible, they're there. You can see that the page numbers don't show. (If you go to the title record of the title story, you'll see that your pub record is listed twice.) By using the "Remove Titles" function, you'll see the duplicate titles, with the page numbers on the ones you want to keep. In the future, it's best to remove all content records before doing an import, otherwise there'll be duplicate title records attached to the publication record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Killer Pine

Hello Dirk, the cover art of Futura 1979 edition is by Vicente Segrelles, see [9]. The cover art of Fratricide is a Gas is also by Segrelles, see here. Thanks. Horzel 11:28, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!--Dirk P Broer 11:32, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Credit and note added to "Fratricide is a Gas" --Willem H. 13:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Future History

[This] title is not mentioned anywhere in the Contento/Locus index. --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Can't find it now, has Contento suffered some breakdown/virus/partial recovery over the years? The book surely fits the criteria for an inclusion in Contento...I've un-verified it for now, but I'll check Contento in the future to see whether it returns. Thanks for noticing!--Dirk P Broer 19:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Contento would not have listed this as it's an Omnibus, not a collection. Perhaps it's not their 'breakdown' .... ;-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:09, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

The Time Mercenaries by Philip E. High

The cover art for the Tandem 1972 paperback is by Chris Achilleos. Artist identification from his official website. Deagol 14:39, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! That's a nice site from Chris Achilleos....--Dirk P Broer 16:05, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

A Romance of the Equator

Hi, Dirk! I added : Best Fantasy Stories to my edition of Aldiss's collection, because that is what is stated on its title page. From the cover of the other two editions it seems that this could possibly the same with them. Would you like to check your edition? Thanks, Stonecreek 19:43, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Checked, and added : Best Fantasy Stories too. Thanks for catching!--Dirk P Broer 08:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Star Songs of an Old Primate

[This] record already indicated a CDN printing, price now reflects that. Cloned for a [US] edition. Not sure which one you have ... --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:02, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Canadian versions are as scarce as hen's teeth in the Netherlands! We do have US import though...--Dirk P Broer 09:59, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Leiber's Shadows With Eyes

I expanded the notes for Leiber's Shadows With Eyes indicating additional secondary sources. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 01:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

R. Blijstra edit

Hi. I have your proposed changes to R. Blijstra on hold. There's an error in the Web Page 2, which is given as "Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands". I am not sure what you intended. I thought you might have meant to change the Birth Place, but I looked at the other page, and if I understand it correctly, that says he was born in Harlingen and died in Amsterdam. Thanks. --MartyD 10:49, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

You get me at a loss there, I can't see my own edits. I may have pasted his place of death by accident in the isfdb birth place field while also editing LibraryThing. My intention may have been to paste www.librarything.com/author/blijstrar as extra webpage for isfdb.--Dirk P Broer 12:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I fixed it up, removing the Amsterdam and adding the LibraryThing link. --MartyD 23:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank You!--Dirk P Broer 00:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

William A. Veselik

The link (http://www.livelycorpses.com/) added to this author's summary page and bio page isn't a valid URL. Mhhutchins 22:11, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

They were already there and were valid at the time (edit: expired on 13 August 2012). He still has a blog, http://livelycorpses.blogspot.nl/, which is valid.--Dirk P Broer 22:42, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I saw that you'd edited the Bio page today, and mistakenly thought it was adding the data. I should have checked the page history. I'll remove the link from the ISFDB. Mhhutchins 00:12, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

The Eternity Code

Can you confirm there's an ISBN-13 in this publication? If so, this is probably a later printing published after 2005, and not the same year as the first 2004 printing. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

In my notes I stated "7th printing by number-line of the 2004 edition". On the copyright page it says "First American paperback edition, 2004" followed by the Number-line 7 9 10 8.

The back cover and inside front cover list both the ISBN-10 and ISBN-13, the copyright page only lists ISBN-10. I think it is indeed very likely that this printing was published after 2005. I will remove the publication date and replace it with 00-00-000 until we know when the 7th printing was actually published.--Dirk P Broer 22:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. That's the standard procedure for undated reprintings. Mhhutchins 23:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Silverberg's Beyond the Safe Zone

Can you confirm the publisher and publication date of this record? There's another record in the db with the same ISBN and price, but dated 1994 and from a differently named publisher. Also, why give BLIC as the source for the price and page count, if you're doing a primary verification? Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 04:35, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

The two records can be merged: "HarperCollins Science Fiction & Fantasy is an imprint of HarperCollinsPublishers" it states on the copyright page of my book. And I can add that my copy also states "This paperback edition 1994", followed by number line 1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2, as in the copy of Hauck.--Dirk P Broer 13:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Publication records can't be merged, only deleted. Get with Hauck and decide which one to keep and which to delete. Since Collins is not the publisher, at least that would have to be changed, as well as the publication date. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Leonid Vladimirsky

I rejected your edits to Leonid Vladimirsky. Since your prior edit changed it to be a pseudonym of L. Vladimirski, I instead removed the links and other information. Since they are not pseudonym specific, it's easier to maintain them in one place at the author's "real" page. I varianted the one title that was under that name and now the standard pseudonym link appears under that author record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

You did just what I meant to be done with both records.--Dirk P Broer 21:58, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Kinsman

Hello Dirk, can you confirm artist credit for this pub as it seems that the cover is by Hay (as per this site). Hervé Hauck 17:11, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Hervé, no I cannot confirm it. I had identified Moore by virtue of "Cover artist not credited, but same cover as the 1989 Mandarin edition where Chris Moore is credited", but that cover has since been changed into one that is both entirely different and much more Moore-like.--Dirk P Broer 21:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Fred Gambino, not Blas Gallego

Hi, at online art gallery wow-art.com there's ample evidence that the covers of the following Arrow editions of EC Tubb's Dumarest series should not be attributed to Blas Gallego, but to Fred Gambino: The Quillian Sector, World of Promise. The style also seems closer to Gambino than to Gallego, who is not known for his spacecraft. And therefore the signature should be read as FG or even FjG. I can find more examples of that signature, if necessary. See also Hauck's userpage. Horzel 14:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Not known for his spacecraft? What's this?. But I agree with you that Fred Gambino is the real artist behind the covers that were hitherto credited to Blas Gallego.--Dirk P Broer 09:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I Am Legend

Have added a scan of the cover to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17612Prof beard 13:11, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Futura and/or Orbit edition of Phoenix in the Ashes

Hello, Dirk! I have added some notes to this pub. Judging from the statements made in the volume wouldn't you agree to change the publisher to Orbit / Futura? Thanks for considering, Christian Stonecreek 15:07, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Done so. --Dirk P Broer 23:06, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I accepted the update, and also removed the link to BLIC, and corrected the OCLC link to the permalink along with correcting the display format for it. Mhhutchins 23:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Confiction 1990 - Programme Souvenir Book

I'd like to make some changes to the ConFiction Souvenir Book:

1. First the title. At a minimum I feel we should match the capitalization as it appears on and in the book as "ConFiction" as opposed to "Confiction". Ordinarily we would take the title from the title page of a book. In this case, there really isn't a title page and it appears that you decided on the title that is on the spine. The other options would be the title from the cover "ConFiction: The 48th World Science Fiction Convention" or as it appears above the table of contents on page 7 as "ConFiction Souvenir Book" which is probably what I would have chosen. I do, however, think that the title from the cover is a better choice than the title from the spine. Let me know your thoughts about this.
2. The type should not be COLLECTION as more than one author (of the fiction) is present. This help page under NONFICTION indicates that either that type should be used or ANTHOLOGY depending on whether fiction or nonfiction is more prevalent. In this case, I would probably opt for NONFICTION, but I could live with ANTHOLOGY.
3. I intend to add the following:
   1. The cover artist
   2. The interior art items
   3. The In Memoriam list on page 14
   4. The Committee and Staff list on page 16
   5. The bibliographies beginning on page 22
   6. The essay on page 116 (I think if we are going to split parts 2 and 3 out from the larger article about the Hugo awards beginning on page 115, we should probably split out part 1 as well)
4. It appears that have taken the title of the articles from the table of contents. Our Policy is to use the title as it appears in the heading where the item appears. I intend to change the titles of the following:
   1. The essay on page 19 as "Once Upon a Time . . ."
   2. The essay on page 29 is by "J. A. Dautzenberg" and should have a "and" instead of an ampersand.
   3. The essay on page 44 should be by "Dave Langford"
   4. The interview on page 47 should have a colon between the title and subtitle.
   5. The essay on page 80 does not have single quotes around the title and it should have a colon between the title and subtitle.
   6. The essay on page 107 should be titled "Remember Us in Winter . . ."
   7. The essay on page 110 should be titled "The World Science Fiction Conventions from 1939 to 1992"
   8. The essay on page 113 should be titled "The Science Fiction Achievement Award (the Hugo): Nominees 1990"
   9. The essay on page 115 should be titled "The Science Fiction Achievement Awards (the Hugos) in the Past.
   10. The essay on page 120 should be titled "Listing of Past Hugo Winners by Category"
   11. The essay on page 128 should be titled "An Index of Hugo Winners and How Many Times They Did It"
   12. The WFSF Constitution on page 130 should be titled "Constitution of the World Science Fiction Society, September 1989"
   13. The essay on page 135 should be titled "Standing Rules for the Governance of the World Science Fiction Society Business Meeting" and it should be disambiguated withe name of the book that we settle on. This title appears in most modern Worldcon program books.
   14. The essay on page 137 should be titled "Business Passe on to ConFiction"
   15. The membership list should be titled "ConFiction Membership List as of July 24th, 1990"
5. The poem "Three Poems" on page 25 is really only a heading and I'll delete it. We can note that the poems are collected as "Three Poems".
6. The content credited to "Stitching Worldcon" should be credited to "uncredited"

I am happy to make these changes but wanted to make you aware as well as get your opinion on the title and type. The other changes are based on our policy and hopefully you'll agree to their necessity. Unfortunately, I wasn't at ConFiction but it sounds like it was fun. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 02:24, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've made the most changes as you suggested, but like to point out some differences in opinion:

1. The additions
   1. The cover artist -done
   2. The interior art items -not done yet
   3. The In Memoriam list on page 14 -done
   4. The Committee and Staff list on page 16 -done
   5. The bibliographies beginning on page 22 -done
   6. The essay on page 116 (I think if we are going to split parts 2 and 3 out from the larger article about the Hugo awards beginning on page 115, we should probably split out part 1 as well) -The essay -which I added- is on page 115, as you said in your title suggestion

1. Titles
   1. The essay on page 19 as "Once Upon a Time . . ." -done
   2. The essay on page 29 is by "J. A. Dautzenberg" and should have a "and" instead of an ampersand. -done (Jo A. Dautzenberg is a more fuller version of his name, but title is indeed credited to J.A. Dautzenberg, which we note as J. A. Dautzenberg)
   3. The essay on page 44 should be by "Dave Langford" -done
   4. The interview on page 47 should have a colon between the title and subtitle. -done
   5. The essay on page 80 does not have single quotes around the title and it should have a colon between the title and subtitle. -done
   6. The essay on page 107 should be titled "Remember Us in Winter . . ." -done, but as on the title page, so: Remember us in Winter
   7. The essay on page 110 should be titled "The World Science Fiction Conventions from 1939 to 1992" -done
   8. The essay on page 113 should be titled "The Science Fiction Achievement Award (the Hugo): Nominees 1990" -done
   9. The essay on page 115 should be titled "The Science Fiction Achievement Awards (the Hugos) in the Past. -done, with added 1., as on title page.
   10. The essay on page 120 should be titled "Listing of Past Hugo Winners by Category" -done, with added 2., as on title page.
   11. The essay on page 128 should be titled "An Index of Hugo Winners and How Many Times They Did It" -done, with added 3., as on title page.
   12. The WFSF Constitution on page 130 should be titled "Constitution of the World Science Fiction Society, September 1989" -done
   13. The essay on page 135 should be titled "Standing Rules for the Governance of the World Science Fiction Society Business Meeting" and it should be disambiguated withe name of the book that we settle on. This title appears in most modern Worldcon program books. -done
   14. The essay on page 137 should be titled "Business Passe on to ConFiction" -done, but then as "Business Passed On to ConFiction", as on titlepage.
   15. The membership list should be titled "ConFiction Membership List as of July 24th, 1990"- done
2. The poem "Three Poems" on page 25 is really only a heading and I'll delete it. We can note that the poems are collected as "Three Poems". -not done yet as it requires another edit
3. The content credited to "Stitching Worldcon" should be credited to "uncredited" - done, but note that 'Stitching' is with needles and 'Stichting' is with non-profit corporations.

--Dirk P Broer 23:04, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Should a 152-page publication with less than 35 pages of fiction be considered an ANTHOLOGY? Not according to the rules (see the NONFICTION subsection of this page). (Also, the title field of the title record doesn't match the title field of the publication record, not a requirement, but it wouldn't be displayed correctly on the editor's summary page or the series listing.) Mhhutchins 01:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Dirk - Thanks for making the changes. I've added the interior art, corrected the title record, deleted "Three Poems" and corrected the remaining Stichting Worldcon titles. I also moved the ones credited to the World Science Fiction Society as uncredited as well. Lastly, I've changed the NONFICTION records to ESSAYS. NONFICTION is for book length works.

Michael - I tend to agree (see my original #2 above). If Dirk agrees, I can change it to NONFICTION. Sorry about the title, I missed that when I was correcting the type of the title record to match Dirk's edit to the publication type. It matches now. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 02:16, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Ron, done as suggested. The ConFiction was indeed fun, I'll never forget the guy who thought he was bidding on just one Philip K. Dick title, picking up that book angrily from the pile, leaving quickly, mouthing angry words and not hearing the seller say he had bid on five titles!--Dirk P Broer 06:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

It was great. Actually, we might have met (if only in passing). My best remembrance is that of the Hugo ceremony, though. I'll also verify the program book. Stonecreek 06:39, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The Killing Thing

I've added a cover scan and associated note to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329332Prof beard 09:52, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Cover art for Clash By Night

The undetermined cover art for your verified Clash By Night is by Chris Moore, appearing in his collection Parallel Lines on page 65. PeteYoung 03:17, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I always suspect it to be Moore's, but could not prove it.--Dirk P Broer 20:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Adding Gender to Author Data

Hi Dirk, You might want to contribute to this discussion since you are one of the major contributors of author edits.--Rkihara 06:40, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

A very interesting discussion indeed...managed to 'prove' the sex of Dale Aycock in the process.--Dirk P Broer 20:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

My memory is that I used this drawing of Dale to conclude that she was female. Did you find better evidence? Chavey 02:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

That drawing was too androgyn for me, but this link talks about a 'she'.--Dirk P Broer 07:41, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

And says she's a "mother of five". Thanks for finding that. Chavey 02:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Worlds Apart

Added a cover art credit and related note to your verified pub, Haldeman's Worlds Apart. Thanks. PeteYoung 10:40, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I like the art and I'm glad to know the artist's name is now verified.--Dirk P Broer 20:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified Scor-Sting.Don Erikson 18:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I had overlooked that while it's clearly visible, even on the scan...--Dirk P Broer 18:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

The Regiment: A Trilogy

I added some words to the notes for The Regiment: A Trilogy. Bob 18:45, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

John Berry bio

Hi Dirk, I see a couple of years ago you placed a bio comment on the death of John Berry, aka. John D. Berry. Last I heard he's very much alive… did you mean this guy? PeteYoung 03:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

• I must have, yes!--Dirk P Broer 01:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Assault on the Gods

Hello, I've replaced the amazon scan for your verified here but my copy has "Legend" as publisher on title page and the mention "A Legend Book" (even if the copyright page states "Published by Arrow"), can you please check your copy ? Thanks. Hauck 14:01, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

You're right, it should be Legend / Arrow to be precise.--Dirk P Broer 20:24, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Is the same true for later books in the same series? Mhhutchins 21:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

I'll check them all personally, but I think the same is true.--Dirk P Broer 17:52, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

My oldest title in the series is a 'Hamlyn', but the copyright page says 'A Hamlyn Paperback, published by Arrow Books'. I'll change all books in my possession to either Hamlyn / Arrow Books or Legend / Arrow Books (leaving the straight 'Arrow Books' for what it is) and ask others to do likewise, referring to this talk page.--Dirk P Broer 21:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

The Night of Kadar

Hello Dirk, I've changed the publication date of this pub according to a review slip found in my copy, same for Split Second.Hauck 16:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Creatures of Light and Darkness

Added notes for your verified here. Hauck 15:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Sign of the Unicorn

Added scan and modified notes for your verified here. Hauck 15:21, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Knight of Shadows

Added notes and artist (see the bottom left of bc) for your verified here. Hauck 15:38, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Confessions of a Crap Artist

Hi - I've replaced the Amazon link with a scan on http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7859 Prof beard 15:13, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

The Last Stand of the DNA Cowboys

Hi - I've replaced the Amazon link with a scan of a verified copy and added a note to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?42864 Prof beard 11:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Could it be Peter Gudynas as artist? I've seen some likewise art by him.--Dirk P Broer 16:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I know what you mean - I'll investigate further Prof beard 22:30, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The Puppet Masters

Hi, the cover artist for this Pan 1974 edition is Bob Fowke, source is Bob Fowke article in SF Monthly 1974-10. Horzel 13:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Already made the submission. Horzel 13:24, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for finding!--Dirk P Broer 16:10, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The Castle Keeps

Have replaced Amazon link with a scan of a verified copy in http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269242Prof beard 14:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Had to defend my copy on the way between Amsterdam and Athens when our Magic Bus guide tried to nick mine.--Dirk P Broer 22:23, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

The Earth Book of Stormgate One

Have replaced Amazon link with scan of verified copy here http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?118521 Prof beard 10:44, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

They Fly at Çiron

I added the author's note to your verified They Fly at Çiron. --Willem H. 14:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

The Same to You Doubled and Other Stories

Have replaced the Amazon image link (which appears to be broken) with a scan of my verified copy in The Same to You Doubled and Other Stories http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121901 Prof beard 13:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Your copy of The Same to You Doubled and Other Stories looks better than mine...--Dirk P Broer 20:29, 15 December 2013 (UTC)