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Worlds of the Universe

Your submission adding this publication to the database was accepted. I made a few changes based on ISFDB standards, and other changes are pending based on your responses to my inquiries here.

  • The editor was changed to "uncredited" because three different sources (SFE3, Miller/Contento, Galactic Central) state that was no credited editor. Does you copy give explicit editor credit?
  • The author of "Lilliput Minor" is given as Thomas W. Wade by Miller/Contento. Can you confirm that the title page credit is for Wade? The ISFDB standard is to use the title page credit, even if it differs from the content page credit.
  • Miller/Contento gives the page count as 104. The ISFDB standard is to count all pages of a magazine, including the covers. Can you confirm the page count as given is correct? (It would usually be a multiple of 4 if all pages are counted.)
  • The location ("London") was removed from the publisher field.
  • The price of "1'5" was changed to the ISFDB standard for pre-decimalization British curreny: "1/5".
  • The issue number was given in the title field to differentiate it with other issues, a moot point since this was the only issue.
  • The publication series data was removed. Magazines go into editor series, and I've done that for the issue.

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I await your response to my questions. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 23:19, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

The editor was not credited in the magazine, as you point out. I have the name in my notes as I found it listed on another web site a while back. i can attempt to find it again, if you wish.
The author of "Lilliput Minor" is given as Manning Stern on the title page.
The page count including covers is indeed 104.
The price is 1/6 I must have fat fingered it.
I'll learn my way around in time.
I uploaded WotuIndex.jpg that shows the authors as credited in the magazine
Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crashmaster (talk • contribs) .
Thanks for the fast response. I'll make the correction to the credit for "Lilliput Minor" and change the page count. For a first time effort, you did very well. Thank you for choosing to contribute to the ISFDB as an editor. Adding and updating publication records in the ISFDB is not a simple process. We don't expect all editors to get it right the first time, and we know it may take some time to learn the ins and outs, and all of the tricks. Please be patient with us as we guide you through this process. We will try our best to also be patient, but being human, it may appear that a moderator can be nitpicking, or even overbearing at times. Please be assured that it isn't personal, and we're only trying our best to achieve the quality of data that our users have come to expect. Together we can build a better database. The best piece of advice I can offer is to take some time to read this help page. It has instructions on how to enter each field of a publication record. If you need further assistance, don't hesitate to inquire at the help desk. Again, thank you for becoming a vital part of the ISFDB. Mhhutchins 23:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
The cover image file was incorrectly uploaded. You should use the link on the publication record labeled "Upload new cover scan". This is semi-automated procedure will add all the necessary data to the file (licenses, links, etc.). I'll have to delete the one you uploaded because it lacks those features. If you need assistance to upload it again from the publication record link, just ask. Or I can do it for you. After the file is uploaded, the publication record has to be updated to add the link to the uploaded cover image file. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
BTW, the scan you uploaded of the contents page was OK for verification purposes, but as I said above, we don't use the contents page to record the contents of a publication. We use the data that appears on the title page, that is the page on which the content appears. With that in mind, can you confirm again that the story on page 42 is credited to "Manning Stern"? Mhhutchins 23:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
To respond to this message click on the [edit] link to the right of the topic. Do not use the link to edit the entire page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:59, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Thomas W. Wade is in fact credited on page 42.
Some day I'll get the hang of it. Really not too hard so far. Now to find out how (after reading the help page) to update New Worlds Magazine Vol 1 No. 1 with an alternate cover (a reuse of the cover art for Vol 1 No. 2 and a reprice to 1/6).
It's my understanding that it wasn't a new printing, just unsold copies with a new cover. I would suggest just adding a note (in the Note field) of the publication record. Do you have a copy of the issue, or a scan of the cover? If so, I'll instruct you how to upload it without replacing the cover image currently linked to the record.
BTW, when responding to a previous comment within the same topic, add a single colon (:), without spacing or tabbing, to the number of the previous comment. Look at the raw data of this discussion to see how it looks. This entry has four colons, so you'll start your response with five colons. Adding the colon automatically indents it, to make it easier to follow the discussion. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:17, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
My understanding is pretty much the same, the unsold copies were bound in a rework of the second issues cover after the second was issued and the priced reduced to help unload them. The interior pages are identical, down to the last signature (pages 49 - 64) that are of a much higher quality paper, so that there is considerably less browning of both versions. This supports the idea that they were unsold copies. I have a copy and can scan it. Thanks for the instructions, getting the hang of it as I go along.

Vargo Statten SF Magazine #1

I accepted the submission updating this record, but some corrections will have to be made based on those changes and your response here. Are you certain that "Beyond Zero" is a novel and "March of the Robots" is a novella? Miller/Contento types both as short stories. Also, if "Beyond Zero" is novel-length (more than 40,000 words), we type such works as SERIAL with an appended title as "Beyond Zero (Complete Novel)". (ISFDB standards prohibit the NOVEL type to be contained in a MAGAZINE typed publication.) Awaiting your response. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

The same concern about the two "novels" in this publication. Miller/Contento shows them as novelettes. Sometimes the early magazines were eager to oversell by claiming the inclusion of "novels" in their periodicals. Could that be the case here? Mhhutchins 23:57, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

As well as this publication. The three novelettes are given as short stories in Miller/Contento, and the novel is given as a novelette. Mhhutchins 23:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC) As well as this publication. The three novelettes are given as short stories in Miller/Contento, and the novel is given as a novelette. Mhhutchins 23:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

And another one. Mhhutchins

I am going by how they are listed in the publication. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crashmaster (talk • contribs) .
When they're obviously wrong, as it appears these cases to be, it's OK to use a reliable secondary source. Or you can do an estimated word count using this word count calculator (you'll have to have an account with Google to access it.) Once you've determined the average number of words on a page, it's easy to determine the story length designation of each work: ss (up to 7500), nt (7501 - 17500), nv (17501 - 40000). And as I said earlier, if it's more than 40K, it's typed SERIAL. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
For the time being, I'll leave the whole Novel/short story thing alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crashmaster (talk • contribs) .
I'll revert the changes to the Miller/Contento designation, and add a note that the publisher has designated them differently. That's usually the best approach if you choose not to do an estimate of the word count. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Vargo Statten SF Magazine #5

Re the changes made to this publication: I changed the type of "The Amature’s Microscope" from NONFICTION to ESSAY. The former type is only used for book-length non-fiction works. The latter is for short non-fiction works which are contained in another publication. Also can you confirm the spelling? Miller/Contento has it as "The Amateur’s Microscope". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

You'll also have to set the binding type for this and the other issues which you've primary verified. If it's not close to one of the choices in the drop-down menu, choose "other" and describe it in the Note field. Mhhutchins 23:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

The spelling is Amateur's, sorry for the typo. I'll stop editing until I get caught up on corrections.

Page count for magazines

I accepted submissions changing several issues to a page count of 130, even though that's unusual for a digest. Because of the way the sheets are printed, cut, folded and bound, the number normally is a multiple of 4. Miller/Contento gives these issues a page count of "128+" which is their way of saying that the pagination doesn't include the covers. Can you confirm the page count of these issues? Mhhutchins 00:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Trying to understand the page count. Worlds of the Universe had 102 numbered pages plus covers for 104. This magazine has 127 numbered pages plus the obverse of the last page, un-numbered for 128 plus the covers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crashmaster (talk • contribs) .
128 pages plus the cover (which is four pages) comes to 132. It may also depend upon which page is numbered "1". Some magazines count their front cover as "1", and some count their first inside page as "1". Once you've determined that it should be easy to get the exact page count. (I'm not saying it must be a multiple of 4. It could well be that the printer figured out get an extra sheet into the publication!)
Don't forget to "sign" your entries so that it adds your user name and time-stamps the message. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:27, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Vargo Statten magazine columns by 'Inquisitor'

I'm working on several aspects of Vince Clarke's bibliography, and one of these is the 19 Fanfare and Suchlike columns he wrote for the various Vargo Statten magazines under the name 'Inquisitor'. All 19 of these have been reproduced in A Vince Clarke Treasury, and I will need to variant their titles to their original appearances in the magazines. Unfortunately, several of the magazines you have very usefully verified in the database make no mention of these original essays, eg. in none of the three Vargo Statten Science Fiction Magazine issues for 1954, and possibly elsewhere. My question is, are you able to go back and add the remaining missing essays for the magazines you have? Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 07:20, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Vargo Statten Science Fiction Magazine, Vol 1 No 3

Just a quick note to let you know that I have added Chuck Harris's vignette "Omega" to your verified Vargo Statten Science Fiction Magazine, Vol 1 No 3. It's listed on the cover and The Science Fiction, Fantasy, & Weird Fiction Magazine Index is the source of the page number. Ahasuerus 11:40, 21 April 2021 (EDT)

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