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Whispers 1

Hi Bob - I was checking my one and only copy of Whispers, Whispers 1 and noticed the following:
On content title page title actually reads "Renunciation by Donald Wandrei of the Right of First Option to Buy Arkham House"
Essay on p.23 is actually credited to "Professor Dirk W. Mosig". Since it's also in another pub, I checked with its verifier and he said it's the same there, too. So I submitted a change in the title record and am waiting approval.
P.35 "The Urn" should be "David Riley" without the middle initial.
P.46 should be "Robert Howard" without the "E." Since there are other pubs with this, this one will have to removed from the pub and a new one with "Robert Howard" added, then varianted.
That's it! I would have changed them but thought I'd better check with you first. Let me know if you want me to do them. Thanks / Doug Vornoff 02:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Please go ahead and make the changes! Thanks. Bob 19:54, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
All submitted and approved, Bob. Doug / Vornoff 16:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

The Art of the Fantastic

Hello, I've approved this pub, can you confirm that some artwork is effectively credited to "Artist Unknown" and if so please chage it to our usual "uncredited". Hauck 07:27, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

That is indeed exactly the way the artwork is credited in the pub. Bob 17:28, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I've changed the lot to "uncredited". Hauck 17:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

"The Phenomenon of HPL", in Crypt of Cthulhu #93

You verified this publication, with the article mentioned, written by Helen V. Wesson. On the off-chance that you're interested, I added a biography of her to her author page, along with basic birth/death info, plus some some links to information about her. Quite an impressive woman, in fact. Chavey 05:23, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Very interesting! Thanks for letting me know about this. Bob 18:48, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Francisco Coching

Can you confirm that the pieces on pages 102-103 in this publication by and about "Francisco B. Coching" are correct? His name is actually Francisco V. Coching. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:42, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

My bad! Fixed. Bob 17:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Claire Wendling and Windling

Can you look at the pieces credited to this artist to determine if they are correctly credited? All are in volumes of Spectrum which you primary verified. I suspect Claire Wendling should be the correct credit. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:55, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I had the wrong spelling in the topic line. It should be Claire Wendling and Claire Windling. Mhhutchins 17:24, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Just caught that, but was able to figure it out. The first of the two attributions was correctly spelled "Wendling", but the second was indeed given as "Windling". Fixed. Bob 17:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Pellitiere or Pelletiere

Can you confirm the credit for this record? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

The art credits give the name as Pellitiere, but the art is signed Pelletiere. Corrected. Bob 17:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Christine Mitzyk or Mitzuk

Can you confirm the credit given in this record? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:20, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

That's the way it appears in the text, although the Artist Index has the correct spelling. Fixed. Bob 17:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Chacal #2

Hi Bob! Can you check your verified Chacal 2 and see if the name "Phillippe Druillet" really has two l's in Philippe; the main name only has one. If true we need pseudonyms and variant. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 18:38, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Not only does is his name given with two l's, but also with one p! The name is given correctly in the ToC, though. Corrections submitted. Good find! Bob 17:07, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

High Adventure

Hi Bob. I started a discussion on MLB's page which involves magazines we've all entered. Please join if you'd like. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:15, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

The Howard Review 5

I disambiguated the Boas art and reorderd the bep and bc pages so they be in order on the above Doug / Vornoff 04:20, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Doug! Bob 16:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

J. J. Wegeulin and J. R. Wegeulin

Are the credits for these works by this artist correct? You've varianted a record under one name to a record under the other name. Mhhutchins 03:24, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

J. R. Weguelin is correct. Fixed. Bob 19:03, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


Except for the author credits and one having a price, I can see no difference in the metadata between this publication and this one. (The latter has a more complete content listing.) Mhhutchins 18:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

They indeed are the same. Removed the less complete one. Thanks, Michael. Bob 23:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

The Hyborian Age

Hello, as it appears on our cleanup report, can you add the contents to this chapbook. Thanks. Hauck 07:24, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm happy to do that. As I'm sure you recognize, the CHAPBOOK classification does not allow contents to be added when entering a new pub, any more than one can add a cover scan at that time. Both are now added. Bob 18:11, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. It seems to me that it's possible (to add content) on the first pass, but I'm perhaps mistaken.Hauck 18:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
I assure you it was not, at least in this situation when I used "Add Publication to This Title". Bob 18:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, in this case you're right (IIRC it's the same for novels). I was thinking of a creation ab nihilo. Perhaps try "Clone this pub" instead.Hauck 19:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

The Best of Stephen Fabian

Hello, why is just the title credited to Stephen E. Fabian and not all the rest? I've changed it to the canonical name. Hauck 19:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I used Stephen E. Fabian because that's the way the copyright is assigned on the copyright page. I used Stephen Fabian for the artwork because that's the way the pub is titled. Not that I particularly care, really, just trying to be consistent with the pub. I think the canonical name should be Stephen E. Fabian, since that's the way I most often see it, but that's just me. Bob 22:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
OK, in this case, it's more the title that should guide us (it's not titled _The Work of Stephen E. Fabian_). Regarding the choice of the canonical name, I can only sympathize (I've once changed the canonical name for a french author, it's a long business even as a moderator). Thanks. Hauck 10:05, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

The Ankh-Morpork National Anthem

I changed the title type of this piece from POEM to SHORTFICTION to include the introductory material per this discussion. It is contained in this collection that we have mutually verified. Please feel free to join in the discussion if you'd like. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:34, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I have no particular problem with classifying it as SHORTFICTION. I would have objected to ESSAY, but either POEM or SHORTFICTION seems fine to me. Bob 16:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic Nudes: Second Series

Hello, can you proceed to the varianting for the titles in this pub. Thanks. Hauck 12:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

On my way! Bob 16:52, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Hauck 17:20, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

She belonged to the sea: to it's everlasting mystery he returned her

Could you please confirm that this title and its VT are spelled "it's everlasting mystery" rather than "its everlasting mystery"? TIA! Ahasuerus 15:34, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for catching that one; I should have caught it myself! Fixed. Bob 18:58, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Approved, thanks! Ahasuerus 19:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


I've added cover art credit to Waylander based on the art being in at least one of the books and one of the card-set/portfolios. Susan O'Fearna 05:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Susan! Great!! Bob 15:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Letters Lovecraftian

Re this publication: "ibc" is not a term usually used in the page field. If the page on which the content appears isn't numbered, used the pipe method to sort it among the contents. Mhhutchins 17:30, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 20:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Spectrum 18

Can you confirm the artist credit of this title? There are other pieces by Shelly Wan in other Spectrum volumes. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Right you are, Michael. Fixed. Bob 21:12, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Virgil Finlay duplicate titles

There are dozens of records which come up as exact duplicate titles for Virgil Finlay, most of which are in your primary verified records. If you ever have time on your hands, please consider merging them (if they're the same art) or creating a note to prevent others from merging them (if they're not the same art). Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Michael, I would love to, but right now I'm severely handicapped in trying to do anything on-line. My desktop computer crashed last week and I'm having problems with Windows 8.1 on my new machine. My laptop is very slow and limits me to simple things for now. I need to enter 7 more Fabian portfolios and the contents of the four hardcover books, as well as doing the merging and varianting of his artworks. I had planned to hold off on the latter until all the content was entered to insure that variants used the earliest date available. I'll see what I can do, but it may take a while; I'm also being plagued by pop-ups, so it's a mess. Bob 20:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Quite understandable under the circumstances, and this is rather low priority. Another editor has been adding notes to prevent the merging in cases with identical titles for which he has made a physical examination. I've asked him to contact you when he's making a change in the title itself. Hope everything gets back to normal soon. Mhhutchins 06:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi Bob. I've been checking some of the duplicate Virgil Finlay records for you, as Michael notes above, against my copies and have been adding DO NOT MERGE notes to those I can verify are not duplicates (all so far) to help you get a little jump on things. There were two that needed numerical disambiguation as they had the same title records in the same publication: "Being" in this one and "Mars Invites You" in this one. I submitted changes but they are being held until I notify you to see if you want me to go ahead and change these or if you want to do them yourself. For some reason I never got the Second Book of Virgil Finlay so can't do those. Good luck with your computer. Doug / Vornoff 06:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Michael for understanding. I've switched from Firefox to Microsoft Explorer on my laptop, which solves some of the problems I've been having with working on-line. I really don't like Explorer (I've had to retype this note twice because I hit the wrong key), but for right now I'll be using it. Doug, thank you for your help. I think I identified all the merges/variants for Finlay's work, but I did not note the DO NOT MERGEs, which I should have. Please make any changes you find necessary. I see why I missed the disambiguations you found, given the gap between each pair. Notice the two "Mars Invites You" illos are really part of the same magazine illustration. I made a pest of myself with the verifiers of the magazines to find the matches; they very graciously help me identify the matches, using my poor descriptions of the illos. Thank you again for your help; I frequently need it. Bob 16:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Glad to help out, Bob. I may have fouled up the disambiguation for "Mars Invites You" - hopefully Michael can come up with the solution. I'll try to enter some more DO NOT MERGE's later this evening - that will still leave plenty for you to do because regretfully I don't have all those Finlay books to verify from. Doug / Vornoff 20:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate

Can you confirm that this hardcover edition has the same price and ISBN as the trade paperback edition? Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it does. I sent a note to Bluesman to make sure his copy is a tp. I had originally verified his entry, but removed that yesterday when I was looking at Fabian illos in the pub and cloned the "tp" instead. I suppose the publisher could just have copied the back cover for the tp onto the hard cover version; that's where the price is. So is the ISBN, but that's also on the copyright page. Notice that the ISBM for the fancier HC is also the same. Bob 16:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
The re-use of the ISBN is understandable (publishers can get stingy and not want to buy another one), but the price is an obvious mistake caused by the duplication. All of Donning's tp editions averaged $5.95, so it you paid that much for a hardcover edition, you got a bargain. It would be a good idea to note the duplication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm waiting for a response from Bluesman to make sure the tp exists. If he doesn't respond this week or if he confirms his copy is indeed a tp, I'll remove the price and add it to the notes. I got the book secondhand, so I don't know what it sold for originally. Bob 21:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


...stands for the Independent Film Channel, I believe, and not one of the special page designations of the ISFDB. Please change this record to follow those standards. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I had a brain freeze and couldn't remember fep for some reason. Fixed. Bob 16:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


I changed the title of this record from "Frontispiece (A Hannes Bok Showcase)" to "A Hannes Bok Showcase (frontispiece)" to conform to ISFDB standards for titling and disamgibuating interior art records. An untitled art piece is given the title of the work it illustrates. Certain works can then be parenthetically disambiguated by the kind of art, i.e. "Title (map)", "Title (endpaper)", etc. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Same situation with this title. And this one. Mhhutchins 17:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael. Someday I'll remember. Bob 18:07, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Waistcoats & Weaponry

Can you confirm the publisher as given on the title page of this publication? According to most sources it's just "Little, Brown". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 05:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Changed. I suspect that whoever entered the initial information (presumably from Amazon) copies the publisher information from the website. But all the books in that series show "Little, Brown" as the publisher on the copyright page. Bob 17:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
I suspect 'all of the books published by "Little, Brown Books for Young Readers" (currently about a thousand in the database) are really just "Little, Brown". All of these records came from our robust robot Fixer via Amazon, and they are the ones who give the marketing division instead of the actual stated publisher in their listings. There's a few more primary verified records under "...Young Readers" and once I've heard from their verifiers, I will do a universal change for all of them to "Little, Brown". Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Cover for Weirdbook 23/24

I'm holding two submissions that want to change the titles of this cover record and this cover record (an artist credit variant of the first) from "Cover: Weirdbook 23/24" to "Cover: Weirdbook, 1988". Cover records should have the same title as the publication. Why do you want to change these to a non-matching title? Mhhutchins 21:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Initially, I was matching the cover art to the Art Folio No. 5 title. Then I noticed that the cover art for the hardcover and softcover editions of 23/24 were not only not merged, they were "Coverart: Weirdbook 23/24" and the other "Coverart: Weirdbook, 1988". Since the interiorart for Art Folio No. 5 used "Weirdbook 23/24", I merged the coverarts to that title. But then I found that all the other Weirdbook coverarts were in the other form, "Weirdbook x, mm 19xx". So I submitted the changes your asking about. The fanzine titles use both the number and the date, by the way. I didn't pick the coverart configurations, the software did. Bob 23:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, the software assumes, as it should, that the title of the publication record should match the title of its cover art record. I'll reject the submissions, since the titles currently match the publication. If there are any that don't match, it's because someone came along later and changed the titles of the publication records. Mhhutchins 23:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The reason why there is inconsistency in the titles of the cover records is that there is no consistency in the titles of the various issues. Some of the issues were only numbered, while others gave a seasonal date. There's no reason to have all the cover records match each other, only that they match the title of the publication. Mhhutchins 23:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

The Best of Stephen Fabian

Based on its description in the note field, this would be considered "other" in the pub binding field. Mhhutchins 01:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Fixed. Bob 02:24, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Weird Menace 5 cover

I'm holding a submission to make this into a variant of this, because in a submission immediately before you'd made it into a submission of this. A title record can only be a variant of one other title. Which one is it? Mhhutchins 19:05, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Michael, you seem as screwed up as I was. Both of the citations above are for the same (incorrect) variant. The current variant assigned to Weird Menace 5 is the correct one. Sorry about the second variant assignment; not sure what happened. there. I cancelled the submission that you were holding. Bob 21:23, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Stephen or Stephan Peregrine

Can you confirm the artist credit of this record? We have several pieces credited to Stephan Peregrine. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:56, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Good call. Fixed. Bob 17:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Steve Swentsen or Swentson

Can you confirm the artist credit for this record? We have several more records in the database credited to Steve Swenston. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:58, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Michael, you're getting as bad as I am. This points to the same item as the last note you left me. It should have been this record. Again, the observation is right on. Fixed. Bob 18:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Nope, not as bad as you. I sometimes slip and miss copying the correct link in a post on the wiki. You make entry errors in the database. No comparison. I'll try to be better about posting the correct links when questioning your mistakes. :) Thanks for finding the correct reference and fixing the error. Mhhutchins 18:52, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The Hyborian Age

Hello, can you add the contents of this publication as it appears on one of our cleanup reports. Thanks. Hauck 13:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. As always, cloning a chapbook doesn't allow content to be entered. Bob 17:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Nope, not true. The clone function allows the editor to add new content. Any content in the first record that's not in the new record can then be removed in a second submission. You may have used the "Add Publication to This Title" function which doesn't allow the addition of any content. Mhhutchins 18:58, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Science Fiction Review 45 cover

Why would you change the title of this if that's how it's given in the publication? Whether it's an accurate title is inconsequential. Mhhutchins 19:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Because that's how the title is given in the pub (with the question mark). I left it out at first, but corrected it. You may have noticed that I occasionally make mistakes in entering data. Bob 19:46, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
If we only had a "Note to Moderator" field... I'm in the process of scanning the covers for #38 and #44, which should help you identify the art. Mhhutchins 19:56, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for trying, but no match. 44 is indeed the illustration labeled as such in that portfolio, and 38 doesn't match the one with the question mark. I'll modify the note on 45(?). Bob 20:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Just uploaded cover for Issue 25. Could it be a match? Mhhutchins 21:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Appreciate the attempt, but no. Nice cover, though! Bob 19:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Dan Gobbet

Would you please check this essay from Crypt of Cthulhu, #51 Hallowmas 1987 to see if the author is truly credited as Dan Gobbet (one 't') vs. Dan Gobbett (two 't's)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:44, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

The two 't's is correct. Wouldn't have entered the letter if he had not been in the database already! Another of my many typos! Thanks!! Bob 20:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

From Faust

Hello, Bob! Could you please check if it's Johan or Johann for this title? Christian Stonecreek 13:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Gad, yes, it's two "n"s. Fixed. Bob 00:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

John and Dorothy de Courey or de Courcy

Can you confirm the credit for the piece on page 4 of this publication? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

I did misread the "c" as an "e". Thanks, Michael. Fixed. Bob 00:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Bok (1974) again

The problem that was pointed out here has yet to be resolved. There are still two title records, the first one credits everybody and their brother but Bok, and the other one adds Bok to the cast of editors. No doubt they should be merged, but I'll leave the correct credit to you. I also suspect this publication is a duplicate of this one except the latter has incomplete contents. Mhhutchins 23:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Don't understand how I managed to do this, but I deleted the second pub as a duplicate. Thank you, Michael. Bob 01:13, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Deleting a publication record doesn't delete its title record. I suggest merging these so that the review will be linked to the merged title. Mhhutchins 03:04, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
I went ahead and merged the titles. Mhhutchins 03:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Michael. I intended to go back and delete the title record; that I knew about. If I had realized that the review would hold after a merge... Bob 15:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Grantville Gazette VII

A quick question about "The Pitch" in your verified Grantville Gazette VII : Is the last name of (the husband and wife team) Domenic and DJ diCiacca really spelled "deCiacca"? Ahasuerus 02:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Another of my many typos. Thank you for fixing it. Bob 16:04, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

I Found Cleopatra

Re this publication: Is the price of $4.17 actually stated in the publication? Could anyone have actually paid that amount for it? If you're only dividing the subscription price, then rightfully it should be $4.166666666666... (I'm being facetious, of course.) The field should be blank with a note explaining that there was no individual price stated in the publication. Mhhutchins 19:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

O.K. Bob 19:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Title check

Is this title actually "Slull-Face" and not "Skull-Face"? Thanks for checking. (If you have to change it, both the parent and title must be corrected.) Mhhutchins 18:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 20:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Changing the dates of art subsequently retitled and/or reprinted

When a work of art is reprinted with a different title, you should not change its date to match the date of the work's first publication. It is important that the date of this first use of the title be retained. Also, do not change the dates of cover art records if they reprint the same art as a differently titled work. A cover art record must match the date of the publication on which it was first used as a cover and with a matching title. Mhhutchins 20:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Michael - I may have approved some of those submissions, I apologize if that was in error. I thought it was appropriate based on the variant help template Template:TitleFields:Date based on this instruction ... enter the first date when the work appeared under any title and any pseudonym; typically, variant titles do not have separate dates. And also as stated in Help:Screen:MakeVariant If, however, this is not the first publication of the title, then you need to find when the title first appeared and enter that date manually. It is entirely possible that I've misunderstood this requirement. (I had always thought that variants deserved their own new date, but had never pushed the issue.) Perhaps this is something decided when the new artwork support has been added and I missed it during one of my long absences. Or perhaps this is something where we've shifted our desires but not our help instructions? (Or I've stumbled all over it and just misunderstood.) Thanks, Kevin 03:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Your assumption is correct, Kevin. The practice has changed but the help pages obviously never were updated. I've apprised many editors of the de facto standard, including Bob here, that there is extreme value in retaining the dates of a variant title records. In cases where the title is a slight variant, such as this one and this one, it's OK to change the dates to match, but in cases like this one and this one where the title is completely changed, it's important to keep the first date of the first publication of the variant title. Mhhutchins 04:31, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Dave McFarran or Dave McFerran

Can you confirm the credit for the author of this review? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:52, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 20:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Don Floto or Fioto

Can you confirm the author credit of this title? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 04:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I misread it. Fixed. Bob 20:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)


fix "uncredited"

I keep trying to add cover art credit to Boris Vallejo & Julie bell to "Imaginistix" cover in Spectrum 15 (I have them both) but Mike keeps rejecting it b/c you primary verified the art book... could you add cover art credit so I can variant it? Thanks Susan O'Fearna 18:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I didn't credit it before because I didn't know if one or both of the artists were responsible. Since you know that it's both, I've submitted a change to credit both. I'm really glad to see someone else interested in the artwork; there aren't many of us working on the database. Please don't hesitate to bug me when you find problems with pubs I've entered. Bob 19:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Susan. This is how you change verified records. Not by continually making the same submission until someone breaks down and accepts it, but through discussion with other editors. I would have hoped you'd learned that by now. Mhhutchins 21:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
For you, Bob: how is the work actually credited in the publication? Whether you "didn't know if one or both of the artists were responsible" is irrelevant. Mhhutchins 21:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
The pub has a string of small illustrations, including this one, across the center of a page with text above and below. The caption mentions that this was the cover for Imaginistix, an art book by Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell, but doesn't say who was responsible for the cover art. And I certainly could not tell which one or both did the cover art. I have a number of books from these artists, but frankly got bored with their work because it all began to seem the same, and I stopped buying their books. I would have left the citation as "uncredited" and let Susan variant it to the book cover correctly credited. Bob 00:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I'll do that. Mhhutchins 00:06, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Stephen E. Fabian

There are 82 titles on this pseudonym's page which must be varianted eventually. If you've gone as far as you can to find the original appearances of these works, then proceed to variant them as is to Stephen Fabian. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Michael, I assume this was you. Most of the content will be varianted to other work by Fabian, but most of them seem to be in books he illustrated where he is credited as doing all the illustrations in the pub. So far I've requested editors to enter the individual illustrations in a number of these pubs, but people are on vacation or not responding, not an unusual situation for this sort of thing. This situation has been made more difficult by my somewhat problematic internet connection and my distraction with some other problems over the past week or so; I'll go variant them since it's been longer than I had hoped. Bob 00:11, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Just do the best you can. It would be a good start to stop adding more "Stephen E. Fabian" titles until you're able to variant most of the ones already in the database. Otherwise, you're only making it harder to work the ones you have. When I first asked you to follow that plan, there were only a few dozen titles. Now the total is up to 98. We're going in the wrong direction. :) Mhhutchins 00:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Well, the ones I just added are going to be varianted, then become variants for half a dozen of the Woman & Wonders citations. Trying! Bob 00:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


Re this record: unless it is actually titled "Frontispiece", it should be titled "Night Images (frontispiece)" per ISFDB standards. Mhhutchins 01:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

By the same rules this would be titled "Night Images (endpiece)". (Unless you think "tailpiece" is how such a work is properly called.) Mhhutchins 01:11, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

And this would be "Night Images (poem borders)". You see there is a consistency in the madness. Mhhutchins 01:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

These are the actual titles given in the index. Bob 01:12, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
We normally don't use indexes and tables of contents to title works, but if that's what they're titled, I'll drop the matter. You might want to add a Note to these title records to keep other users from questioning you again about them. Mhhutchins 01:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't have a problem rearranging the titles, but I do want to keep the "Tailpiece" label, since that's what it's called in the pub. Bob 18:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Pipe method

You should use the pipe method of pagination to place the extra poem and artwork in correct order in this publication. That's what it was created for. Mhhutchins 01:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Michael, I'm not sure how to use it in this case. In the past when I used it, there were page numbers, just multiple sets in one pub. In this case, there are two sheets of paper bound between pages 9 and 10, unnumbered, single-sided, one a poem the other an illustration. Page 9 is blank, 10 is a header page for a section with an illustration. Should these be 9A and 10A or something else? Bob 12:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Since there are no numbers on the contents' pages, you'd enter the pipe character first into the page field. This will then display no page number at all. If the poem comes first then it would be entered as any number higher than 9 and less than 10, including fractions. The poem could be "|9.1" while the art would be "|9.2". (The numbers would be reversed if the art comes first.) Try it and see how the titles are displayed in the record. Mhhutchins 19:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Interesting! I've tried it, will see how it turns out. Thank you for the help. Bob 20:36, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Compleat Crow

I can confirm that the interior illustrations in the Compleat Crow match those that you referenced and that all internal illustration are by Stephen E. Fabian. There are a few others as well. --Unapersson 16:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

That's great, but what I really would like to see is the illustrations entered in the pub contents. That way I can variant them to the art book. And I have discovered other illustrations for other stories from that pub in the art book. So it would be a big help if you would add the illustrations. Bob 12:09, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Elizabeth Bear's 'New Amsterdam'

Please drop by the discussion where I've proposed changing your Verified publication of New Amsterdam from a Novel to a Collection. Thanks Kevin 16:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Rhialto the Marvelous

A perfect example of why I didn't add individual interior art records to the publication record. You'd be hard pressed to find the actual fiction here.

Given that the artwork is indented, I don't see a problem. But that's just me.
It surely must just be you. Since the indenting here does very little to separate the wheat from the chaff. Mhhutchins 04:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

BTW, I did a "Primary (Transient)" verification of this record back in 2010 because it was the only choice at that time when another editor had taken the one primary verification spot. They must have removed their verification without notifying me, so you were able to get that spot by default.

I've removed my verification; please feel free to move yours to primary. Bob 02:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add your PV back to the first slot. I'd rather that users question you about the record than to have them ask me why I added all of these interior art records when I generally oppose them. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

You'll have to fix that first interior art record because it originally represented the book's entire interior art. By overwriting it with a new title (which I always advise not doing), you've created a variant which doesn't match the title of its parent record when it should. Mhhutchins 01:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Fixed by renaming the art and varianting it to a later illustration in the pub. Bob 02:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
"...and I am her..." What does it mean, indeed? Mhhutchins 01:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Michael. Fixed. Bob 02:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
I just figured out why I did a transient verification. My copy is still shrink-wrapped. I already had the Baen paperback when I saw this on the remainder table at Waldenbooks and picked it up for a song. So please add your PV back to the first slot. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:07, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Archiving your talk page

Hello, due to its length, it's perhaps time to archive your talk page. Thanks for those who have slow connections or use smartphones. Hauck 05:43, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Love to, but don't remember how. Can you help? Bob 00:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Done (2014 & 1st semester 2015) here. Hauck 15:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Much appreciated. Bob 18:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Frontispiece on "bc"

"bc" indicates back cover, and that's normally only used for magazines. Is the frontispiece on the back cover (not dust jacket) of this publication? If so, it's strange to call it a "frontispiece". Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:25, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 00:50, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Fabian illustrations for Morreion

If the illustrations in this publication have titles or captions, you shouldn't be using the disambiguating number, unless those numbers are (not likely) part of the title. Mhhutchins 20:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


Just checking to see if the second word in this title (and one of its VTs) is really "uoon"? Ahasuerus 18:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Amazing how I can look right past a typo like that! Thank you! Bob 18:34, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey, that's why four eyes are better than two! And it gets even better when you count glasses! :-)
BTW, you would like to merge "In one mad instant she was there—a tense white shape, vibrant with love fierce as a she-panther's." and "In one mad nstant she was there - vibrant with love fierce as a she-panther's". Was the second title incorrectly entered? Ahasuerus 18:41, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Indeed it was — another of my many typos! And sometimes it's difficult to choose between - and —. Bob 18:48, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks -- approved. Ahasuerus 18:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

"There are hidden under the floorboards of my cottage, : said Xexanededes in a sulky voice"

Could you please confirm that "There are hidden under the floorboards of my cottage, : said Xexanededes in a sulky voice" is not missing any words? Ahasuerus 20:17, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

No missing words, but a : instead of ". Fixed. Thank you for getting this one! Bob 20:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Approved, thanks! Ahasuerus 20:21, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Llorio spoke a spell of twisting and torsion, but Calanctus fendit it away

Could you please double-check the spelling ("fendit"?) of this title? Ahasuerus 22:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Wow. Talk about anticipation! Fixed, thanks! Bob 23:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I must withhold my testimony until I am guaranteed fairly my life."

Is it safe to assume that there is an opening double quote at the beginning of this title? Ahasuerus 22:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Good assumption. Fixed. Thank you for taking care of my stupid mistakes today. Much appreciated. Bob 23:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Not a problem -- I am here to serve man! :-) Ahasuerus 00:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Lest Darkness Fall / To Bring the Light

Hi, Bob! As there seems to be at least one additional story set in the world created by de Camp: would you think that David Drake's work also belongs to this universe? For it's also included here. Thanks for thinking about it, Christian Stonecreek 18:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

It absolutely should be there. I hadn't realized the universe existed! Bob 21:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, it was also new to me. I just stumbled over it while searching for de Camp's novel and wondered why it didn't show under the Novel heading. I have put Drake's title into the series. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 06:05, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

FAbian's Ladies & Legends

Re this publication record: Is the work on page 88 different from the work on page 98 with the same title? Mhhutchins 00:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Sure is. Fixed. Bob 00:56, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Jeffrey Jones = Jeff Jones

Please variant the titles for Jeffrey Jones to the canonical form of the name at your earliest convenience. I have also changed the interviewee of this title from Jeffrey to Jeff per ISFDB standards. Mhhutchins 15:56, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Give me a chance, Michael. I just entered the pubs late last night and couldn't change the pseudonym until they were approved. Bob 16:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Sections of a nonfiction work v. ESSAY

re this record: Are the contents in this record titled "Section" real essays or as suggested by their title just sections of a larger work? If the latter, content records shouldn't be created for them. (This is similar to the standard of not creating content records for chapters, parts, sections, books, prologues, epilogues, etc. of a NOVEL record.) Mhhutchins 15:59, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, can you confirm that the use of the emdash in the titles in actually present in the publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, can you confirm that there is only an ISBN-10 present on the book and no ISBN-13? Mhhutchins 16:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there are essays. Yes, there are emdashes. Yes, there is only an ISBN-10. Bob 16:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
If you believe those ESSAY-typed sections are separable and could have been published as individual works, I'll drop the matter (even though I think you may be stretching the definition here.) When you get a chance please note the absence of an ISBN-13 anywhere in this book. That's unusual for a 2013 publication (and a violation of the standards set by the International ISBN Agency.) Also the content record by Kaluta should be varianted, and the "Editors' Introduction" should be disambiguated. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
The essays are full pages; there are other essays in the pub as well, generally shorter. Remember this is a reference book, and the editor discusses Jones' work in some detail. Interestingly, there is an ISBN-13 on the back cover (pictorial covers), and it is the same as the ISBN-10 on the copyright page with "978" added up front — same check sum. How can that be? I assumed because there was no error message when I entered the ISBN-10 that the check sum was correct. Bob 17:13, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Virgil Finlay Portfolio [15]

In your verified, Virgil Finlay Portfolio, Virgil Finlay Portfolio [15] is dated 1910 which is before Finlay was born. Please update the date as appropriate. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you! Bob 16:18, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


Should be entered as "other" in the binding field. I've seen several which you've entered lately as "ph" (the Krenkel portfolios). Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:39, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael. Bob 19:53, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Deleting titles removed from a publication record or re-varianted to a new title

The other day you re-varianted about three dozen Fabian title records which you'd originally varianted to a new title record. That's fine, but the original parent records then became orphans, i.e. no longer contained in a publication. Yesterday, you removed 17 titles from Morreion, all no longer contained in a publication. In the future if you do this, please remember to follow up by deleting these stray titles from the database. Otherwise they'll still appear on an author/artist's summary page until they show up on a clean-up report, and someone (a moderator) has time to delete them. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Michael, this is why I was concerned about varianting Stephen E. Fabian illustrations to Stephen Fabian, when I knew that the they would later be varianted to another publication. Do this variants continue to exist in the data base? Thank you for cleaning the others up. Did you also clean up the deleted illustrations from The Space Swimmers? I did the same thing with that pub, entering all the illustrations, then deleting those that did not appear elsewhere. Bob 20:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I've done the latter (and a lot of diverse Fabian deleting). Hauck 05:23, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Again, removing a content title record from a publication record doesn't delete the title record. It only removes it from that one publication, just in case the same title appears in another publication. It is only necessary to delete it if it no longer appears in ANY publication, i.e. an "orphan" title. Mhhutchins 06:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Had to delete 16 more orphan titles by Fabian just now. Mhhutchins|talk 16:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Michael. I don't know what they were, but I also notice you didn't answer my question about variants above. Were the Fabian orphans you most recently deleted the variants I replaced? You nagged me to variant the "Stephen E. Fabian"s out to the canonical name, so I did. But there are still a fair number of those I will later replace by varianting to the original publication. When I do this, so I create orphans? Bob 17:32, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Guinevere and Lancelot

Re this publication: I moved the "Note to Moderator" (before it disappeared forever) to the "Note" field (which you probably intended to do), and changed the binding from "unknown" to "ph". Also, please check the content on page 45 for artist credit. Also, are the two parenthetically disambiguated titles presented as such on the title pages of each? Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:49, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael. The two titles have the information out of parens at the top of the page and below that to the right is the info in the parens. The disambiguation information is also on the table of citations at the front of the pub, along with publisher and date. Bob 20:12, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
You'll have to correct the credit of "Afterglow" again. As has been mentioned before, you shouldn't make a submission that changes a content title record and then one that changes the publication in which that title is contained. You have to wait for the first submission is made and moderated, before submitting any change to the publication record. Mhhutchins 20:25, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Fixed. Bob 17:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


Hi, Bob. This art and this one both have the same title/author and are both in pubs verified by you. Are they the same? They are showing up as duplicates for Allen Koszowski. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 14:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Good find! The two are completely different. I labelled both DO NOT MERGE. Bob 00:59, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Found another duplicate on two of your verified pubs, Bob. Is this title the same as either of the two identically titled artwork in this pub? Thanks again, Doug / Vornoff 02:53, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
This time they are the same! Both heading art for the editorials. Merged. Bob 18:27, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Steve Harrison and Colleagues - Occult Investigations

Hello, can you confirm that the short story _The Tomb's Secret_ is present twice in this pub? Thanks. Hauck 13:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I was kind of surprised by this, too. The story was published under another name (in parens) as well, and that apparently led the editor to include it twice. Weird! Bob 18:14, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Specters in the Dark

You have verified all the pubs containing both Specters in the Dark and Spectres in the Dark. Would you please double check these to see if they are the same story and if the spelling differences (specters vs spectres) are valid? Please update as appropriate. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

These are the same; the spelling is my mistake. Merged. Bob 18:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Another Howard one: Wolves Beyond the Border (Draft) and Wolves Beyond the Border: Draft A. If these are the same draft, they should be varianted. If they are not the same draft, please add notes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

These two and the version labelled "Draft B" are all different, although "Draft" is nearly the same as "Draft B". All are now labelled. Bob 19:08, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

"The Little Green Men" in Fantasy Crossroads

You've verified the February 1976 issue of Fantasy Crossroads which contains the first appearance of the poem "The Little Green Men". The title of the poem is listed as appearing without quotation marks. We've discovered reprints of this poem where we've incorrectly listed it with the quotation marks because it appeared that way in the table of contents, whereas there are no quotation marks on the title page of the poem. Other appearances have the quotes on the title page. Could you confirm that title appears without quotes on its title page? Because of the confusion with the reprints, I just want to ensure that we have the proper form of the title listed as the canonical one. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The title over the poem does not have quotes; in the TOC, it does have quotes (every story and poem in the TOC has quotes). Bob 01:57, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Frazetta's "The Encounter"

About this title: If the disambiguation isn't present in the publication, it should be removed from the title. The note is sufficient to prevent it from being merged with the same-titled, but different, work. Mhhutchins|talk 03:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

O.K., fixed. Bob 17:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Importing contents into Road to Azrael

I was forced by the system to reject the submission importing contents into this record, because you had merged one of the contents of the source publication in a previous submission. In other words, that content no longer existed when you merged it with another title record. Again, you have to wait until a submission which edits a content of a publication to be moderated before making another submission that affects that same content record. It has nothing to do with the order in which you make a submission. (I think we've been over this before.) Mhhutchins|talk 23:59, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

You can now import the contents from the other record. Mhhutchins|talk 00:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

I guess I thought the order mattered. Imported again. Bob 00:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

On the Range

The note you added to a record of this title has been deleted from the db, because that record was merged with another title record in a subsequent submission. If you had waited until the merge submission had been moderated before making a submission to add the note it would be there. Again, you can not make a submission that edits a title record and then immediately make a submission that merges that record with another one. You must wait for a submission to be moderated before making a subsequent submission that affects the same record. Mhhutchins|talk 18:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Re-entered. Bob 19:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

"Sketches: Biographical Notes & Random Memories"

Re this essay: A work is either uncredited or credited. It can't be both. It may be edited by an unknown and uncredited person, but that should be given in the Note field, not co-credited to "uncredited". Mhhutchins|talk 19:01, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

The article contains extensive quotes by Jones, in the first person, interspersed with text by someone (probably Arnie Fenner) setting up the quote with a series of multiple-paragraph essays. Should it be set up as an interview with an uncredited interviewer? It's not really the usual interview because it's not a conversation. Or should I just stick the first sentence above in the notes and make the entire essay "uncredited"? Bob 19:38, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I'd go with the last option here. Mhhutchins|talk 23:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Done. Bob 23:46, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Default display of non-English translations

When you get a chance, could you please review this discussion? The proposal basically boils down to changing the behavior of the Summary Bibliography when the viewing user is not logged in. Currently only English translations are displayed for unauthenticated users. The proposal would change it to displaying all translations. The downside is that the Summary page could get longer and harder to navigate.

I am trying to get a sense of how widespread the support for this change is. TIA! Ahasuerus 01:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Cover of Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction

I've held your submission to variant this cover to the cover of Astounding. Am I missing a variation in the title for the cover for that edition? It seems identical to this title record in which case a merge between the two titles would be more appropriate. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

O.K., pulled the submission and merged the cover art. Bob 19:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Cover art credit

Unless you believe the artist credited for the cover of this publication is a single person, each should be credited individually. You do this by updating the cover art title record, NOT the publication record which would create three different cover art records. Mhhutchins|talk 00:11, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Bob 00:33, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Iced on Aran

Would you please double check your verified pubs containing Iced on Aran (shortstory) and Iced on Aran (novelette)? If these are identical stories, then they should be merged under the same (correct) story length (please note that the shortstory has multiple verification so you should get their agreement if you want to change it). If the novelette is an expansion of the shortstory, please add notes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:42, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

They are the same story, and shortstory is the right length. I merged them. I also note there is an alleged "novel" with the same title, an e-book from Amazon. Given the description Amazon has for the pub, I think this must be a collection, probably the same as the one I verified. The description fits the short story; I cannot imagine how that story could be extended to a 179 page novel. And the number of pages is appropriate for the collection. Bob 20:43, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Bad link

Please correct the link in the Note field of this title record to a non-existing record . Most likely the record you had linked was merged with another title record. There are several records with this title, otherwise I would have repaired the link. Mhhutchins|talk 07:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Fixed the reference. I've asked the verifier about the other record to see which one it matches. Bob 17:15, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Dates of first publication

If you've discovered the date of a work's first publication, feel free to change the publication date field of the parent record. For example, you added a note to this record saying that it first appeared in 1980, but you didn't update the publication date. Do not do this for works which were previously unpublished, even if you know the creation date. You should also keep in mind that when you add a note to a record which you subsequently make into a variant, that note doesn't appear on the parent title record. You may want to create the parent record first and then add the note to it. Mhhutchins|talk 19:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, all the dates in this pub are for when the illustration was created, not necessarily when they were published. This particular illustration was actually first published in 1990. When I finish entering the illustrations in this pub, I'll go back to the parent records and add notes for when they appeared as a single sheet. That way, the items in the art book will have reference to when they were created and the parent record will have reference to when they were first published. Bob 20:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
How can there be a "limited edition" in 1980 and yet be "first published in 1990"? A limited edition implies that copies of it were made for sale and distribution. Shouldn't that be considered its first appearance and availability as a work of art? Mhhutchins|talk 23:43, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
If this work was first published in Monsters and Heroes in 1967, shouldn't that be the publication date given in the ISFDB title record? Mhhutchins|talk 19:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
It was published in a comic book; should the date of the comic be used? Bob 19:35, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
If that was the date it was first published. That's the ISFDB standard, regardless of the type of publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:12, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
And add a title note as to the comic in which it was published, even though we wouldn't list the comic separately in the database. Chavey 15:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Plate numbers in titles

When you're adding data from a secondary source, such as this record, can you be certain that the titles of the plates are correctly titled? Perhaps this is just the secondary source's method of distinguishing the plates by adding a number to the title. That's why I suggest that when creating a parent title for these plates that you don't use the plate number. Surely, the artist wouldn't make that distinction by titling with the plate number. If the publication is later primary verified, the titles can be changed to show those actually given in the portfolio. Mhhutchins|talk 19:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

As an aside, I'd also question whether a certificate of authenticity is an essay and requires a separate content record. Mhhutchins|talk 19:45, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I'll remove the certificate; I wasn't sure what to do with that. The secondary source distinguishes between titles and descriptions, but titles may indeed come from other pubs. Some of the titles given have a second title as "(AKA Second Title)". The plate numbers are not given, in general; I was following the way Rtrace handled the illustrations in Red Shadows. I have no problem in just removing them. Bob 20:15, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
But "plate" isn't part of the title in Ron's record. That's the page field (although incorrectly used according to ISFDB standards, but that's another matter). Mhhutchins|talk 23:45, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Vance's Wild Thyme and Violets

Are the parenthetical descriptions given in the contents of this collection the same as the titles as presented on their individual title pages? If not, these descriptions should be given in the Note field of the title records.

Also, do you know if the revisions of "Dream Castle" and "Guyal of Sfere" are substantial enough to consider them new works? We normally don't variant based on text. And we maintain separate records if there is substantial revisions done to a work which retains its original title. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 00:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

The parenthetical material was in the TOC, not at the head of the items. Fixed. The revisions to "Dream Castle" were significant; furthermore, if there was to be a variant, it should have been the other way since "I'll Build Your Dream Castle" was first published. I've taken out the variants and noted one of the versions of "Dream Castle"; I'll probably need to do more on "Dream Castle" when the first mods are approved. The revisions to "Guyal of Sfere" do not seem to be significant, and the length was not much different, so I'll need to merge that one into the others when the changes are approved. Bob 01:40, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I've accepted all submissions but the ones that individually "unmerge" publications of "I'll Build Your Dream Castle" from the main title. If you're trying to reverse the variant and make "I'll Build Your Dream Castle" the canonical title, there's an easier way to do this: go to the its title record for "Dream Castle", choose "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" and on the next page replace the current parent record number with "0". I'll do this for you. Mhhutchins|talk 01:52, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Question: is the version in Lost Moons a revised version or just retitled. Either way, it should be dated the date of its first publication under this title. Mhhutchins|talk 01:54, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Revised. I'll add a note after approval of changes, as I said above. The two revisions titled "Dream Castle" are not different enough to make them different stories, but they need notes. Bob 02:03, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Same bad link

Here. It doesn't link to a valid title record. Mhhutchins|talk 06:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Don't understand why this happened, but I think I've fixed it. Bob 20:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

"Poems Dead and Undead"

In your verified publication, you list one of the stories as "Enkudu's Dram of the Underworld". This appears to have two typos, as I'm pretty sure that should be "Enkidu's Dream ...". (My grown children both have fond memories of me reading this to them as a night-time story when they were young.) Chavey 06:02, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

That has to be a new record for me on typos. Even I recognize these typos as such, having some familiarity with Gilgamesh's story. Fixed. Thank you ! Bob 19:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Use of #

I've noticed you've gone back in recent submissions to a previous practice which was brought to your attention: adding a space between the number sign (#) and the number. That's uncommon usage in English where there usually is no space. For example, "Wonder Woman #200" instead of "Wonder Woman # 200". Although there probably isn't a stated ISFDB standard, no one probably thought about adding it. Just as we don't add a space after "$" or before "%", doing otherwise just looks strange. We can open this up for discussion on the Rules & Standards page if you wish. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:34, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Changing the dates of titles and then varianting it to a new title

Just so you know, if you change the date of a record, and then make a submission to variant that record before the first one is moderated, the new title record will have the old date of the original (now variant) title record. See this one as an example. As I suggested in the past, you should wait until a submission is moderated before making a new submission which involves that title record. Mhhutchins|talk 00:46, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

A Specter is Haunting Texas

I've expanded the notes for Leiber's A Specter is Haunting Texas adding the Reginald number. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:36, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Ron. Bob 17:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

"George H. Schithers"?

Would it be safe to assume that "George H. Schithers" is a misspelling of George H. Scithers's name in your verified Weird Tales, Winter 1989-1990 and Weird Tales, Spring/Fall 1989? Ahasuerus 01:31, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Yep. As usual. Thank you! Fixed. Bob 01:33, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Approved, thanks! Ahasuerus 02:27, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The Lost Valley of Iskander

Re the page count of this record: Do any of the contents, e.g. the introduction, appear on the roman-numbered pages? Also, if there are three unnumbered plates they can be added to the page count field as "xiv+194+[3]". Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

I put in the page number for the introduction (xi); don't know why I missed that before. I also added the "[3]", but that kind of feels weird. I would expect the 3 extra page to be at the end I guess. And I could have put in [12] instead: both sides of the plates (backs are blank) and 2 pages for each tissue paper that fronts the color plates. I'll try to remember to use the extra pages in future. Bob 16:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
The page count field is not a record of a publication's pagination. It's simply the number of pages in the book and doesn't give the order of the pages. "xiv+194+[3]" means that there are 14 roman-numbered pages, 194 arabic-numbered pages, and 3 unnumbered pages. We don't count the backs of unnumbered pages, just as we don't count the unnumbered pages in the back of a book. I have no idea how to handle tissue paper since that's never came up. I would suspect that it's not really considered "pages" and should just be noted. Mhhutchins|talk 16:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
I added a note about the tissue paper. Bob 16:44, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Creating a new pseudonym subsequent to creating a first known variant

If you create a variant title record based on a variant credit, and the credited author/artist hasn't been made into a pseudonym, you must follow-through by creating the pseudonym relationship. In the case of Gabriel Mayorga / Gabriel H. Mayorga, I did it for you this time. Keep this in mind when this situation arises again. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Same situation with Robert Gibson-Jones. Look at the page and you can see why it's necessary to create a pseudonym. I'll let you do this one. Mhhutchins|talk 03:16, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. I just hadn't gotten around to the pseudonyms; thank you for doing the Mayorga. Bob 16:31, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Alan Hunter in Whispers

I corrected Alan Hunter's name in this issue of Whispers, which we both have verified per this conversation. We had the last name as "Humter" Thanks.--Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:40, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Another of my infamous typos, I suspect. Thanks for finding and fixing it. Bob 00:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


All records (but your verified record) in the database give the publisher as "FAX Collector's Editions". Are you certain that "Collectors Editions" (not the absence of the apostrophe) is a series and not part of the publisher's name? Mhhutchins|talk 01:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

You're right, that is the name of the publisher. I'll fix that. Bob 03:33, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Straggling variants-to-be

There are still eight titles by Jeffrey Jones (mostly in this publication) which need to be varianted. Also, there are also quite a number in this publication, but I'm only concerned about the ones credited pseudonymously to Denis Beauvais, Gerald Brom, Kelly Freas, Gnemo, and Ken Kelly. (They're showing up on an error report for unvarianted titles by pseudonymous names.) If you don't think you'll be able to variant these to a specific existing title, I'll proceed to variant them as titled to the canonical artist name. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I see you're back working on the Frank collection. When you go off onto other publications, I'm thinking you may have forgotten the ones that weren't completed. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:42, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm putting in pubs that I need to variant to Jones' content. I wanted to get The Studio in since it preceeds the other Jones books, but this led me to enter the FAX editions since these were relatively quick to do. I haven't forgotten the Jones items, and will get back to them within a few days now. I'll finish Frank first. Bob 03:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Andreas Dekker or Decker

Can you confirm the author credit for this work? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:15, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

It's Decker. Fixed. Bob 20:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Anathem Cover Art

Please see this discussion regarding the cover art credit for your primary verified pub. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


Could you check whether the cover artist of Ironbrand, based on a partial signature, is really David Mattingly. The style fits Esteban Maroto, not Mattingly. Could you check that signature? Thanks. Horzel 20:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

No question in my mind it should be Maroto. The initial "Mar" and final "to" seem pretty clear to me. Good catch! Bob 20:48, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Berni Wrightson's Frankenstein

You'll have to remove one of the two NOVEL contents of this publication record. (A NOVEL-typed publication can't contain two NOVEL content records.) It is my contention that illustrating a novel doesn't make an artist into an author, and so he shouldn't be credited in the author field of the record. If the title on the title page is Berni Wrightson's Frankenstein, then its title record should be made into a variant of the canonical title record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 23:17, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

BTW, you could have updated the title of this publication and all of its contents in a single submission, instead of separate submission updating each of its many content records. I'm going to accept all of these submissions, but I have no idea what the result is going to look like, especially since you'd already varianted them. There's going to be a lot of orphaned titles which you're going to have to delete. Mhhutchins|talk 23:21, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about the screw up with Wrightson's name, but glad I caught it. I varianted the container name and deleted the page 1 title. I would have preferred to delete the container title instead, but wasn't sure what kind of problems that would cause. Bob 00:12, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Forced rejection of imports

I was forced by the system to reject the submissions to import contents from one publication of Berni Wrightson: A Look Back to another. As I have told you many times before, you must wait until a submission has been moderated before making another submission which has content records which were merged in the first submission. That's the case here. Please try again. Mhhutchins|talk 18:31, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

The Mutants by Wrightson

Re this publication: Can you confirm that the first title of "Dark Comedy" is an ESSAY while the other two are SHORTFICTION by the person who is the subject of the first title? Mhhutchins|talk 18:34, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 18:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Also, if this is a COLLECTION, then it should have two or more records of SHORTFICTION. Shouldn't you have content records for each of the graphic stories? If the publication qualifies for inclusion in the database, surely the contents would as well. Mhhutchins|talk 18:38, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I accepted the submissions that changed the disambiguation, but not the type. Are you saying that Bernie Wrightson wrote two different stories titled "Dark Comedy: A Decade with Berni Wrightson"? Mhhutchins|talk 18:40, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I accepted the submission changing the records to INTERIORART, but you also need to change the parent title record which were created when the work was typed as SHOFTFICTION. Changing the type of a variant doesn't automatically change the type of its parent. Mhhutchins|talk 18:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I accepted the submission adding the fiction contents to the record, but then the types of the two contents which were already in the publication, and the two that I questioned you about and you changed from SHORTFICTION to INTERIORART, reverted to their original type. Because, and I will continue to say this until you understand, if you make submissions that affect a content record of a publication which you will subsequently need to update, you must wait until the submissions updating the title records have been moderated before you make the submission updating the publication record. Now you will have to change the types of those two content records again. They could have easily been changed in one submission that updated the publication record, but as long you as you insist on updating the title records individually, you will continue to have the same problem of conflicts caused by not waiting for the submissions to be moderated before updating publications which contain those titles. Mhhutchins|talk 19:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Fixed, Obi Wan. Bob 19:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

The Reaper of Love and Other Stories

Re this publication: Same situation as above. You need to add contents if this work is typed as COLLECTION. If the publication is eligible for the database, then its contents are as well. Mhhutchins|talk 18:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Content added. Bob 19:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Freak Show

Re this publication: there's a content record for an ESSAY titled "Freak Show" but no SHORTFICTION content. If this contains a single work of fiction titled "Freak Show", the book should be typed as CHAPBOOK, and contain at least one content record typed as SHORTFICTION. It should only be typed as COLLECTION if it contains two or more works of fiction, each represented by a separate content record typed as SHORTFICTION. Mhhutchins|talk 18:48, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 19:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Colour Your Dreams

I can't imagine that a coloring book would be eligible for the database. Even if we have become the SF art database for some editors, this isn't SF art by any stretch of the imagination. It's not even the original works! I'll hold the submission if you strongly believe it's eligible and you can start a discussion on the Community portal to present your case. Mhhutchins|talk 21:02, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, some of the artwork is in other publications in the data base. Bob 21:06, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
The actual artwork, or an outline of it to be colored in? Mhhutchins|talk 03:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Actual. Bob 03:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Then how could it be a coloring book? And which of the works are already in the database? Either I'm dense, or your explanation is suspiciously evasive. Mhhutchins|talk 05:21, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
This isn't a coloring book for kids, and while it's called "Colour Your Dreams", it's really just an art book. The illustrations are in B&W, and could be painted with water colors I guess; opaque colors would just make a mess. Most of the originals were in B&W, some of them with so much shading and cross-hatching that trying to add color would result in illustrations more than half black. I would estimate half a dozen of the pages could be successfully colored and look like they were meant to be. The Wrightson and the Krenkel are familiar and definitely B&W; the Jeff Jones cover and back cover (same illo) does not appear elsewhere (it was commissioned for a book cover, but never used), but I would swear I've seen the Maxfield Parrish and Steve Hickman elsewhere. I guess I don't really care if this pub is put into the data base, but I do think it should be included. Bob 18:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Finally, an explanation. Perhaps you should not have called it a coloring book without explanation in the notes. I'll accept it. In the future, when someone makes an inquiry, please try to answer as fully as possible. Otherwise it can be quite frustrating trying to determine a work's eligibility. I figured you'd want it in the database or you wouldn't have gone through the trouble. Mhhutchins|talk 21:21, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
BTW, the disambiguation of the titles aren't necessary. Mhhutchins|talk 21:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Bernie Wrightson

Hi Bob. I accepted all of those Bernie Wrightson variants you submitted. Since you mostly/always did new titles, there's now a bunch of likely duplicates. Since you seem to have all of the publications involved, I figured I'd avoid making a mess and not be "helpful" by merging, but it would be good to clean those up. Thanks. --MartyD 17:04, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Marty. I do have a bunch of clean-up to do; I've been trying to enter the earlier pubs so when I do variants and merges, I can avoid orphans and not have to redo the variants. I know it's a mess for a while, but I will get it all straight when I can. Bob 19:55, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Lawrence or Laurence

Can you confirm the artist credit for this record? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 17:31, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed. The illo is just signed "Kamp", but the credit is given as "Lawrence". Bob 19:58, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Probably a typo and should be this artist, who had several pieces published in Ted White-era Fantastic. Mhhutchins|talk 20:04, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Ryohwi Hase or Ryohei Hase

Can you confirm the artist credit of this record? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

"Ryohei" is correct. Fixed. Bob 20:01, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Rudi Franke / Franks

In this publication, there are two works attributed to either "Rudi Franks" (p 2) or "Rudi Franke" (p. 19). Can you confirm whether they should be credited the same? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure they should be the same. I'll find out which is correct when I can find the pub! Bob 20:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Edgar Allen or Allan Poe

Please confirm the title of this publication. Mhhutchins|talk 22:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 00:44, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Cover Artist

Hello, I've approved your submission for this pub. Can you confirm the artist? (it's perhaps Larry Rostant). Thanks. Hauck 08:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Right your are! A case of me seeing what I expect to see. Thank you! Fixed. Bob 18:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


There were two records for Brian Lumley's Augeren - one as a novella & one as novelette. However, both records were from different editions of the same publication. I merged them together and choose novella as the size based on Locus. Your verified pub had it as a novelette. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

O.K. I see it took up a lot more pages in the Headline pb edition that it did in the hc I have. If I had it to do over again, I'd still guess novelette ... Bob 18:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Ganley's Evolution

Hi Bob! I just entered Ganley's new collection of poems Dark Pilgrimage and one of the poems, "Evolution" is close in title to a poem titled "Evolution: 1988" in your verified Weirdbook Sampler. Mine starts "Entrap the wild tiger, and rattle him to the city..." and ends with "...or wore a tiger pelt?". Could you check and see if these are the same so I can variant or leave a note? Thanks so much. Doug / Vornoff 18:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Mine starts "Entrap the wild tiger — rattle him to the city incarcerated in a yellow cab . . ." and ends exactly the same as yours. Despite the emdash in place of the "and", I would say they are the same poem. Bob 18:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Bob. I will variant, then. Doug / Vornoff 19:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

R. DaSilva and R. DeSilva

Can you confirm the three credits for these two artists (all of which appeared in issues of Etchings & Odysseys that you verified)? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 15:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

All "DaSilva". Fixed. Bob 19:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

"London, Paris, Banana"

Do you think "London, Paris, Banana" in your verified Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art may be a VT of "London, Paris, Banana ..." in Amazing Stories, Winter 2000? Ahasuerus 13:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Nearly certain it is. The label says it was done for Amazing Stories; it's under the "Editorial" section of the pub, which usually means it appeared in a magazine or other periodical. Bob 19:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Updated, thanks! Ahasuerus 19:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Son of the White Wolf

Hi Bob! In my ISFDB meanderings I came across your verified Son of the White Wolf and noticed you have the cover and interior art by Marcus Boaz. There's a Marcus Boas with tons of the same types of credits. Can you check the credits of yours for spelling. If it's with a "z", do you think it should be pseudonymed and varianted? Thanks for checking, Doug / Vornoff 23:13, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

All my error. Thanks for finding this one! Bob 23:56, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Review of: The Wheels of If and Other Science Fiction

John Aiken's pages lists two reviews of The Wheels of If and Other Science Fiction. Since you have verified both publications containing these reviews (Fantasy Review, April-May 1949, p23 and Sword & Fantasy, #3 July 200, p48), would you please check if these are the same review and either merge or add comments as appropriate? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

They are identical, the later one a copy of the former (the source is credited). Thanks for catching this one. Bob 22:01, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Frazetta Funny Stuff

Hi Bob! I'm betting you meant "stylized" instead of "sylized" on this title? :) Doug / Vornoff 18:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

You bet! Thanks for that one. Fixed. Bob 19:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Science-Fantasy Review

Please add the missing pub format/binding to this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Fixed. Bob 22:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Creating variants of a review based on titles

Re the review for The Wheels of If in this record: If a review gives the title of the work being reviewed differently from the canonical title, you have the option of leaving the reviewed title as is (which requires you to do a manual link to the title), or to correct the reviewed title to the canonical title. You should not create a variant of the review record based on a variant titling of the work being reviewed. Reviews are only varianted if the author of the review is a pseudonym, not if the title of the reviewed work is non-canonical or the author of the reviewed work is a pseudonym. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:32, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

In this particular case, the review records should be merged. (You'll have to break the variant relationship first.) Mhhutchins|talk 21:33, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

In the case of this review, there shouldn't be a variant because it is based on the review's rendering of the title, not the actual title of the work being reviewed. It will have to be unvarianted. Mhhutchins|talk 21:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Same situation with this review, this review, and this review. And there are three different reviews in this issue which have to be unvarianted. Also, remember when you unvariant that you must also delete the variant record that was incorrectly created. Mhhutchins|talk 21:37, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Berni Wrightson

Please variant the titles associated with Berni Wrightson when you get a chance. Mhhutchins|talk 21:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Will do; still need to enter some material to avoid too many orphans. Bob 22:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Since moderators are doing the cleaning of orphan titles, this shouldn't be a factor in creating variants. Mhhutchins|talk 23:04, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Sure. That's why you reminded me to delete the orphans created by eliminating the title variants for reviewed pubs. I'll get the Berni Wrightson variants done as quickly as I can, but I've had an unexpected amount of off-line items to deal with this week. Bob 23:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Christopher Wood as artist

Hi, Bob! The art on p. 164 of this publication seems to be by yet another Christopher Wood (according to Wikipedia there's a painter of that name who died in 1930, but I guess it's also not by him). Christian Stonecreek 08:26, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

According to the Artist Index, this Christopher Wood can be contacted at or 602-775-6416 and lives in Tempe, AZ. While the info may be out of date, it's safe to say he's not the one who died in 1930. I'll make him a (II).Bob 18:42, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Rick Barry or Berry

Can you confirm the artist credit of this work? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 16:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

It is indeed Berry. Fixed. Bob 19:30, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Rick or Rich Klink

Can you confirm the artist credit of this work? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 22:52, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Rich is correct; fixed. Bob 20:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Rick or Rich McCollum

Can you confirm the artist credit of this work and this work? In the case of the latter work, there are others in the same publication credited to "Rick". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 22:57, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Both Rick. The two are credited by signature or style and general credit, not explicit credit, so not even typos, just mistakes. Sorrry! Bob 20:48, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Richard Corbin or Corben

Can you confirm the credits for the three interior art records for Richard Corbin? (They're in three different publications which you primary verified.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 00:22, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

All Corben. Fixed. Bob 20:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Williamson's "Gateway to Paradise"

I'm going to convert Jack Williamson's "Gateway to Paradise" which we currently have listed as a novel, to a novella. It appears in your verified collection of the same name. My reasons for doing so are that both of the magazine appearances are classified as a novella in Miller/Contento. I also did an estimated word count from Haffner book, and it appears to be less than 3,400 words. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the trouble! Bob 20:30, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Bob, I have to apologize. I discovered other edits that were needed for the collection when I was looking into this. I left this note on Ron Kihara's page and I thought I had copied it to yours as well. I guess something went wrong with saving it. In any case, that note details the additional edits that I am making to the Haffner book. Sorry for the mix up on the notification. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
I see what happened. I saved the comment intended for you on Swfritter's page. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:48, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Rudi Franke or Franks

Please confirm the credit of this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 04:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I've looked for the pub 4 times now and still haven't found it. I'll keep looking. Bob 22:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Finally found this one. It's Franke; fixed. Looking for this one made me better organize a bunch of pubs! Bob 20:16, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

A Call to Arms authors

For some reason, this book is verified with an author "Tom Pope". The cover doesn't use "Tom", and neither do the title page, copyright page, and the "About the Author" section on the back flap. I submitted a change to "Thomas", since that is used in every instance. Please comment here to let Mhhutchins know it's okay to correct the entry to what's actually in the book. Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Lrry Correia?

I approved your submission for Onward, Drake!. I'm thinking that Lrry Correia is probably this guy. The Toni Weiskopf title also needs to be varianted. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

O.K., done. Bob 20:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Rick Karze or Katze

Can you confirm the credit for this work? Other introductions in the same series were credited to "Katze". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 17:35, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Guess my eyes are getting weaker. It is indeed Katze. Fixed. Bob 20:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Rodolfo Farraresi or Rodolfo Ferraresi

Can you confirm the credit for this work? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:47, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 20:11, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Onward Drake contents

Concerning your submission to remove all the contents in this publication, you say "It's easier to remove these and import the contents from the leather edition than to merge everything." Actually, it would have been easier to clone this record to create the leather edition from the start instead of creating duplicate content titles. I'll accept the submission, but now you'll have to delete all of the orphaned titles. Mhhutchins|talk 20:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree it would have been easier, but I didn't look at the trade edition contents before I entered the contents for the leather bound edition. Both editions were already in the data base but not verified, and I assumed that if one didn't have any contents listed, neither would the other one. Bad assumption. Bob 20:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Jones' Idyl - I'm Age

Is this the way the title is presented (with a dash) on its title page? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 00:33, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Also, are there two covers individually credited to Jones and Canty? If not, you shouldn't add a second credit during a publication edit. That creates a second cover art record. If there's only one collaborative work of art, you should have edited the cover art title record. Let me know which one it is and I'll lead you to repairing the record, if necessary. Mhhutchins|talk 00:37, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Title has "Idyl" over "I'm Age", no dash. The dash was in the original submission and I didn't correct it. I was a little spooked because I had tried to save the title on the cover scan, but couldn't with the slash because the slash isn't valid for a file name in Windows. I've corrected those. I've taken the first cut at correcting the cover art credit. I hadn't realized that it was even possible to create two covers. I'll try to sort out all the corrections and variants after the first batch is approved. Bob 19:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Some big changes are coming for how cover art records are created. The option to create separate cover art records will become more clear with these changes. You should see that now when you use the "Add New" functions. The change will eventually be rolled out for updating and cloning existing records.
The slant is the way to go here. The file name doesn't have to match the publication title. In fact, if you use the link on the publication record to upload the cover scan, the file gets the name of the publication's tag. Thanks for making the correction. I'll make the other publication match. BTW, if this includes the two works, shouldn't there be content records for each of them? Mhhutchins|talk 20:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, if "Idyl" and "I'm Age" are illustrated stories (originally published as serial strips), they should be entered as SHORTFICTION (with a graphic format flag) and with an accompanying INTERIORART record for each. And the publication would be typed as COLLECTION. Mhhutchins|talk 20:24, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Correcting to collection for this pub and the earlier Idyl. Bob 21:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

"Science Fiction — The World's Nightmare!" by Bolkhovitinov and Zakhartchenko

Can you confirm whether the author credit for this work "Victor" and not "Viktor"?

Also, will you get with Hauck who verified this record to determine if there's enough similarity between the two works for them to be varianted? I'll leave a message on his page. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

The name is spelled as shown. Considering that this was a translation from Russian language, it doesn't really surprise me that one publisher used a "c" and the other a "k". I'm sure the Russian version used a "k" because the "c" in Cyrillic is equivalent to an "s" in English, where a "k" has a similar sound in both languages. I presume the Englishman used the "c" to match the English spelling of the name "Victor". I think the "k" would be the more common usage today, so I'll variant the name in Fantasy Review. While both articles are selected abridgements of the same Soviet article, I doubt they are very similar; they differ in length if nothing else. Bob 01:46, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Tibbets or Tibbetts?

Hi, Bob! Could you please take a second look at the exact spelling of the artist's surname for the art on p. 16 of this pub.? Stonecreek 17:35, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Two "tt" is correct! Thank you. Bob 03:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


On this publication, I added a note indicating the cover artist was credited as "Rodger" instead of "Roger". ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:11, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 03:31, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Rudolfo or Rodolfo A. Ferraresi

Can you see if the titles under Rudolfo A. Ferraresi could have been misentered? We have more titles under Rodolfo A. Ferraresi . Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk

Rodolfo is correct. I didn't enter these pubs, although I didn't fix them either; I suspect I saw what I expected to see. Fixed. Bob 01:25, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
I figured you'd have the answer (which I appreciate), since the primary verifier is no longer active. Thanks again for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 02:06, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Merritt's The Moon Pool

I expanded the notes to A. Merritt's The Moon Pool adding various catalog numbers. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Through/Thru the Dragon Glass

I've expanded the notes to A. Merritt's Through the Dragon Glass adding various catalog numbers. While doing that, I also noticed that the title appears to be incorrect. The title in the cover scan is listed as "Thru the Dragon Glass". Curry and Worldcat both state "cover title" indicating that there isn't a separate title page. Further, all of the secondary sources list the title with "Thru". Could you double check the book to see if the title is listed anywhere with "Through". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

You're absolutely correct. Both the pub and the story itself are titled with "Thru", not "Through". Corrected. Bob 19:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
I've accepted the two edits directly changing the chapbook, but I'm going to have to reject the edit to the title of the story. That edit would change the title of the story in every publication where it appears. In this case, the secondary sources make it fairly clear that the chapbook is the only place where it it titled with "Thru". What you want to do change it just for that copy is to delete the SHORTFICTION title from the chapbook. Then edit the chapbook adding a new SHORTFICTION title with the correct titte, "Thru the Dragon Glass". After that is approved, you can make the "Thru" title a variant of the "Through" title. That way all the other publications will still have the appropriate title. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
O.K. Bob 23:05, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Merritt's Three Lines of Old French

I expanded the notes to A. Merritt's Three Lines of Old French adding various catalog numbers. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Also our mutually verified The Fox Woman and The Blue Pagoda. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
And The Black Wheel. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:52, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
You've been a busy little beaver! Thank you. Bob 19:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Spectrum 22 content

I can't tell for some of the ESSAYs, but I'm guessing this one should be INTERIORART? --MartyD 03:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Marty, I'll check them all, but you're right about this one. Fixed. Bob 18:36, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Possible variant essays on Robert E. Howard?

Hi, Bob! The semi-identical titles and authors of these two items one and two could implicate largely identical texts. Do you have time to check it? Christian Stonecreek 04:55, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Not quite the same, but the second is a revised version of the former. I added a note to each one. Bob 18:32, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Allen Ashley

Bob, your verified Fantasy Tales, Winter 1982 has the story 'Dead to the World' by Allen Ashley, however the SFE3 entry for Ashley says the story appeared under the pseudonym Alan A. Lucas. Can you check? If it turns out SFE3 is wrong I'll notify Dave Langford. Thanks. PeteYoung 08:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

You're almost right; it's under the pseudonym "Allen A. Lucas". I submitted the unmerge and will make the correction and variant as approvals are given. I really can't understand how this happened; maybe I searched the title and merged without seeing the differences in the last name. Bob 21:16, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Vacant PV1s

Bob, I’m shifting some books so I’m moving many verifications to ‘Transient’. If you want to take over the PV1 slot of the first edition of Kuttner’s Fury, you’re welcome. More to come, inevitably! PeteYoung 10:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Moore's Shambleau

I added the Reginald and Bleiler catalog numbers to C. L. Moore's Shambleau and Others. I also linked the existing Worldcat and Library of Congress numbers. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:19, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Also her Northwest of Earth. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:25, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Cool, Ron. Thanks. Bob 20:25, 10 December 2015 (UTC)


I'm uncertain how a work typed as INTERIORART can be credited to one artist but is actually sculpted by another. Can you set me straight? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:08, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Michael, I've been doing the same thing for all the dimensional art in the Spectrum books. As the notes for each pub says, the photographer is shown as the artist when a separate photographer is credited, and the sculptor is shown in the note for the artwork. Bob 23:15, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
So if I take a photograph of Michelangelo's David, I would get credited as the artist in an art book? I don't think so, and neither should I be credited in the ISFDB. Adding the actual artist in the Note field makes it impossible to find the credit on the ISFDB for the creator of the art being honored in a collection of the year's best art. Don't you think? Mhhutchins|talk 01:26, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
No, Michael. Not unless you're a much better photographer than I suspect you are. But my approach wasn't so simplistic. Some sculptors who created the artwork didn't take photos of their own work. Why not? Many obviously did so. But some didn't think their own talent at photography was sufficient, and wanted the photos to show their work in the best possible way. They asked for help from talented photographers. I noted that in these pubs, only dimensional art credited people who created the reproduction. Does that mean that the dimensional art was judged from photos, and was not itself present at the judging? I suspect that was true (although I don't really know). Had the sculptures been available, the publisher could have used a professional photographer to reproduce all of the art work for publication, but clearly didn't. So the professional or talented amateur photographers who took the photos created their own works of art, and those I credited because they are actually what we see in the publication. You may not agree, but my choice was rational, and I think the right one. The only alternative I can see is to credit both the sculptor and photographer, but that seems confusing. Bob 19:55, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
We obviously disagree, so I'll copy this to the rules discussion page to get other editors' views. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:06, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Moskowitz's Horrors Unknown

I'm adding the Reginald and Bleiler numbers to Sam Moskowitz's Horrors Unknown I'll also link the existing Worldcat number that is already there. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:46, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

The Big Lifters

Added the cover artist to [this], she is credited in the hardcover edition. --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Wonderful! Thanks. Bob 02:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

The Emperor's Soul

I added a note on where cover artist was credited, and a starting page number for the contents. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! Thank you. Bob 00:36, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

The Alloy of Law

I added an additional interior artist credit, and clarified the note regarding interior artists. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you again! Bob 00:36, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

The Return of Conan

I added the Bleiler and LCCN numbers to Nyberg and De Camp's The Return of Conan. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:26, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Ron. Bob 02:11, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

The Witches of Karres

I updated the notes with more specific info. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:21, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks. Bob 02:10, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Bibliography of William Crawford's publications and artist Crozetti

In two successive issues of Fantasy Review there are articles by Jack Chalker about the works published by William L. Crawford: Daddy! and Son of Daddy!. When you get a chance could you look to see how the cover and interior art credits by "Crozetti" are provided by Chalker? If, at all? I'm trying to determine if any were actually credited to Laura Ruth Crozetti which is what the ISFDB currently gives as the canonical name, even though there's conflicting evidence about what her real name was and whether it was ever actually used in any of the publications. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins|talk 00:36, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

For the most part, he just says, "Jacket by Crozetti." However, for the first two books she did the jackets for, Death's Deputy by Ron Hubbard in 1948 and The Sunken World by Stanton G. Coblentz in 1949, he says, "Jacket by Laura Ruth Crozetti." There is no discussion, but if the full name does not appear in those publications, then it likely doesn't appear anywhere. Bob 02:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Well, that didn't help, since we have primary verified records for those two editions from FPCI (here and here) which credit someone other than Crozetti as the cover artist. Back to the drawing board. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins|talk 04:46, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Noticed that. I sent Ron a note with the info. Bob 02:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Cover art credit for Eye of Cat by Zelazny

Can you confirm that the cover of this publication is credited to "Nenad Jakesvic" or could it possibly be Nenad Jakesevic? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 01:03, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Credit is as shown. A variant? Bob 02:10, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Pseudonym and variant was already created by another editor. I just wanted to confirm that they were necessary. Thanks again. Mhhutchins|talk 02:16, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Mary or Marv Wolfman

Can you confirm the credit of this work? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 02:14, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

It's Marv. Fixed. Bob 02:41, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Marta Randall credit in A Fantasy Reader

I've corrected the credit for Marta Randall in our mutually verified publication A Fantasy Reader: The Seventh World Fantasy Convention Book which we mistakenly had entered as "Marta Randell". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:41, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Bob 02:43, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Howard's Shadow Kingdoms

Please add the contents to this record when you get a chance. Importing them from another edition and making the appropriate changes (if necessary) would be the best way to do it. Mhhutchins|talk 21:31, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Done. Bob 02:45, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Kull: Exile of Atlantis Sketches

If this is an art collection, it should be typed as NONFICTION. (If so, change both the pub type and the title type in two separate submissions.)

This collection of essays should also be typed as NONFICTION. Mhhutchins|talk 21:35, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Fixed. Bob 02:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
In the second publication, you changed the type of the title record, but not that of the publication record. As I said, it requires two submissions. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Padgett's A Gnome There Was

I've added Reginald, Bleiler and LOC catalog numbers to Lewis Padgett's A Gnome There Was. I also noticed two things that I'll leave to you and the other active verifier to discuss. I'm leaving an identical note on their page. First the parent title lists only Kuttner as the author for the collection. Padgett is usually a pseudonym for Kuttner and Moore who are certainly credited with the stories collected in the collection. I also noticed that the secondary sources have the extended title of "A Gnome There Was and Other Tales of Science Fiction and Fantasy". If the title appears that way on the title page, you may want to consider extending it. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:34, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

A Gnome There Was

Hello, Bob! What's your intention to change the author from Henry Kuttner to Lewis Padgett? (I have put two of your submissions on hold for that title: the second one wouldn't change a thing, since the title isn't a variant of another). Christian Stonecreek 10:11, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

I didn't enter the original data, but didn't correct it when I verified it. Ron pointed out that the pub was given as authored by Padgett already, but not the title. I checked the pub and it indeed had a longer full title and was credited to Padgett as Ron suggested, not Kuttner. Since the first verifier is no longer active, I started the changes of both title and author. Bob 16:18, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Not exactly. I had suggested that the parent title which is currently credited to Kuttner alone, should probably be credited to Kuttner and Moore. If you and the other active verifier agree, then all you need to do is edit the title record for the parent and add Moore's name as a second author. The existing pseudonymous title doesn't require any edits for this issue. My other point, the expansion of the title to its longer form, needed to be made if 3 places, the publication record, which has been done, the pseudonymous title record and the parent canonical title record. Sorry for the confusion. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:11, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Errant essays

Hi Bob. Check the ESSAYs in this. I think a few should be INTERIORART. --MartyD 12:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Marty. I did find and correct two to INTERIORART. I would swear I corrected one of them before, but I guess not. Bob 16:13, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Foreward and SHORTFICTION?

This. Mhhutchins|talk 20:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 19:15, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Mary Hanson Roberts

Would you mind double checking your The Barbarian Scroll interior art credits for Mary Hanson Roberts. She is usually credited as Mary Hanson-Roberts. If correct as credited, than a pseudonym needs to be created. I've asked Mhhutchins to double check the SF & Fantasy Review No. 66 credit so by the time you get to this it may already have been created. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:39, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Variants defined. Bob 00:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Lee Edwards

Hello, you've credited this pub's cover to Lee Edwards, just in case perhaps is it by Les Edwards? Hauck 20:12, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Fixed. Bob 03:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Marc / Mark Covell

Can you confirm the credits for the art on pages 96 and 120 of this publication? If they are the same artist and credit, the titles will have to be disambiguated. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 20:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Both "Mark". Fixed. Bob 00:04, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Marc / Mark Fishman

Can you confirm the credit for this record? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:28, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Name corrected, note added. Bob 00:07, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Jim Jones

Hi Bob! I'm entering one of my ERB-doms now and I've run into a piece of INTERIORART by "Jim Jones". I see that on p.11 of your pv'd Fantasy Crossroads #8 you have some art by a Jim Jones as well. Could you take a look at this link on my google account and see if the sig or style match up at all with the pic on your mag - that'll tell me whether I need to disambiguate or credit it to the same Jones. Thanks for any help, Bob. Doug / Vornoff 22:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Doug, I would bet it's the same guy. Not only do the signatures look identical to me, but the bodies of the figures in both illustrations look the same in their proportions and general features. Bob 01:55, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Good deal - I will proceed accordingly. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 02:33, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

In the Wake of the Night: An Excerpt

You have verified publications containing both In the Wake of the Night: An Excerpt and In the Wake of the Night: An Excerpt. Are these the same excerpt (i.e. should they be merged)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:20, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Definitely the same. Missed that one. Fixed. Bob 23:16, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

On Basilisk Station leather edition

I updated the cover image, the notes to include the other color cover insert, and added the interior art entry for that cover image. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 16:33, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Land of Unreason

I've expanded the notes to our mutually verified Land of Unreason by de Camp and Pratt, adding record numbers from secondary sources. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:38, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Also, their Tales from Gavagan's Bar. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
No, thank you! Bob 19:35, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Possible Typos

The following are some misspelled words present in your verified records:

If you could please double check these to see if they are typos in the database or the original works, it would be appreciated. If they are typos in the original works, it would be good to add notes to the records indicating that. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:18, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

All are my typos except the Howard "surprized", which is his spelling. Fixed. Bob 03:31, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Cathy Young Czapia or Czapla?

Can you confirm the credit for this work? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:51, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Czapla is correct. Fixed. Bob 04:54, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Pavol Martinický and Pavol Martinicki

Could this and this be the same work, credited differently? Mhhutchins|talk 18:14, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I haven't gotten around to going through Spectrum 22 yet; I will eventually when I get time. They are the same, the first is a correction of the spelling of the man's name in the first. I've varianted the second. Bob 04:59, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
It's best to review the changes to records once submitted and accepted. Moderators have no idea what method individual editors use to review their submission updating records and shouldn't be expected to wait in anticipation of that review. The errors are there regardless of whether you've reviewed them. How are we to know at one point we should be questioning the data? One day, two days, a week? And database users are seeing live data. It's not being held in limbo until you've had the chance to review it. Mhhutchins|talk 03:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Roberto Parado or Parada?

Can you confirm the credit for this work? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 18:20, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Parada is correct. Fixed. Bob 05:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Stephen or Stephan Peregrine redux

Can you confirm the credit for this work? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Stephan is correct. Fixed. Bob 05:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Marc or Mark Schultz

Can you confirm the artist credit given for this work? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 02:00, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Mark is correct. Fixed. Bob 18:46, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Te Ho or Te Hu

Please confirm the credit for this work. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 08:26, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

As I said above, I haven't reviewed this pub yet. Fixed. Bob 05:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Tyler Jocobson or Jacobson

Please confirm the credit for this work. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 08:29, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

As I said above, I haven't reviewed this pub yet. Fixed. Bob 05:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Victor or Viktor Titov

The works on page 227 of this publication have different credits. Please confirm if they are correctly entered. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 08:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Same concern for the works on page 260 and 261 in the same publication. Mhhutchins|talk 08:33, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

As I said above, I haven't reviewed this pub yet. Fixed. Bob 05:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Matt Govig or Gouig

Can you reconcile the art credits, cover and interior, for this publication? Mhhutchins|talk 22:54, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Gouig is correct. Fixed. Bob 18:49, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Ted Harvia

Happy New Year, Bob! In your two verified Riverside Quarterly August 1991 and August 1992 you have one art record each for Ted Harvia. Do you think that could be "Teddy Harvia" (much longer art bio). Here's a sample of his style. If you agree, do you want to do a pseudonym and variants? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 20:50, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Actually, the cartoons are signed "Teddy Harvia", although they are credited to "Ted Harvia in the art credits. I changed them to Teddy. Bob 21:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Exodus map credit

I added a note and a map credit to this volume. It matches the credited map in this volume. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:19, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Excellent! Bob 01:52, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Conrad Stargard: The Radiant Warrior

My copy of Conrad Stargard: The Radiant Warrior has [8]+743 pages, 742 and 743 being electrical units. Is the 741 a typo or is your copy missing the last 2 pages?SFJuggler 01:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

I can't imagine it was a typo, but it is a mistake. Fixed. Bob 02:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Reviews of periodicals...

...should not be entered under the REVIEW section of a publication entry form. They should be entered under the REGULAR TITLES section and typed as ESSAY. See the standard under "Reviews" in this documentation. I have deleted the review of The Count Dracula Society Quarterly in this publication and added a record for an ESSAY. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 05:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Didn't know that. Thank you! Bob 19:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

"Fantasy Art Series"

I see that you have verified the following two pubs: Virgil Finlay Vol. I and Virgil Finlay Vol. II. Could you please confirm that the name of the publication series is "Fantasy Art Series" rather than its Japanese equivalent? TIA! Ahasuerus 17:00, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

My first reaction to this was "Duh! I can't read Japanese!". I looked in the pubs: the title and copyright pages are in English, and "Fantasy Art Series" appears in small letters above the titles to the books on the title pages. All the rest of the text in the volumes is in Japanese. The mixture strikes me as a bit unusual; there is a statement thanking Finlay's daughter on the copyright page, which may explain the mix. Bob 19:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Ah, so it is a bona fide Romanized pub series! Thanks for checking! Ahasuerus 19:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

CD edition of 'Salem's Lot

I accepted the submission adding this record to the database, but it took a lot of editing to clean it up. (A reason why forthcoming books, especially from specialty publishers, should only be entered into the database after they're published.)

  • Publication date field was changed to "9999" which is displayed as "forthcoming". It's very unlikely that the book will appear before the end of this month. I've pre-ordered it myself, and would be pleasantly surprised if I see it that soon.
  • Publisher credit should be "Cemetery Dance Publications", not just "Cemetery Dance".
  • The note "Treycased [sic], numbered and signed Gift Edition." was changed to just "Deluxe slipcased Gift Edition". It will not be traycased and signed.
  • The note "Includes deleted scenes and two related short stories." was deleted. That is reflected in the contents so it's not necessary to note it.
  • I removed the link to the image on the publisher's website. We don't have permission to linke to their hosted images.
  • I left the page count field as you entered it, but it's very likely going to be different. This is almost always the case for Cemetery Dance titles.
  • I changed the title of the content record for "Signature Sheet" to "'Salem's Lot (signature sheet)" per ISFDB standards (and corrected the credit from "Glen Chadbourn" [sic]). But it's likely this will have to be removed, since the Gift Edition (for which this is the record) will not be signed. Perhaps the artwork will serve as a frontispiece, similar to what was done for the Gift Edition of CD's Carrie.
  • I changed the title of "Map of the town of ’Salem’s Lot" to "'Salem's Lot (map)" per ISFDB standards.

I will merge the reprint stories and also change the dates of the other contents to just "2016", and make corrections to them once the book has been published. Mhhutchins|talk 22:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael. I recognized that changes would be needed once the book was published. Of course, I wanted the entry so I could variant the art work. Bob 02:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Freas Variants

I'm holding several of your submissions to make variants of interior art records by Freas. In each case I'm not seeing any difference in either the title or the artist credit, so I'm not sure you really want to make variants in this case. Is there something I'm missing? If not, it looks like you could merge these titles. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh, sure. I'll merge them. The only titles I can match are the ones with a single illustration for the story, and mostly they will be the same. Thanks! Bob 03:11, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
I see. If you suspect that the original title may represent multiple illustrations, and you have a single illustration with the same title, then you should neither make them variants or merge them. The database doesn't have a method for linking one title that is only part of another title. The only thing I could suggest is trying to get the verifiers, if there are any to check weather the magazine titles are single or mulitple illustrations and if they'd be willing to add individual titles and help you match the one you have. You can also see if you can find scans of the magazines online to check yourself. This is a good site for doing that. I'll reject the pending edits. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:18, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Ron, I've used that website before, but I lost the location when my last computer died. I'll use it; even though most Astounding issues are still in copyright, I can usually tell which illustration to use from the thumbnails. I asked verifiers of the pulps about illustrations in the past, but I guess I made a pest of myself and most no longer respond (not that I blame them). So thank you for the useful information! Bob 16:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

John H. Vance

Hi, Bob! Do you happen to know if the artist for this item is actually the son of Jack Vance? He has one named John Vance, and there's an interview with that Vance on future plans for Jack Vance's work I'd like to add. Christian Stonecreek 19:19, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it is. The interiorart is a photo of Vance, taken by his son and credited to him. Bob 20:45, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Bob! I'll see to that I add the (german) interview today (actually it's more on some memories on his father). Christian Stonecreek 10:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Gray Mouser interior art

Hi, Bob. Could you check a couple of titles in the following pubs you verified? The first is INTERIORART for Amra V2n8 - The Gray Mouser:2 by James Cawthorn (p.4). Is this same as The Gray Mouser:2 by James Cawthorn (p.136) in The Conan Grimoire?
The second is for INTERIORART for The Gray Mouser:1 by Raul Garcia Capella (p.3) of same Amra fanzine compared with The Gray Mouser:1 by Raul Garcia Capella in the same Conan Grimoire. I'm guessing they're the same since they both illustrate Fritz Leiber poems that are merged. If they're the same, looks to me like they should be merged. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 07:09, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely correct, I've merged them. Good catch! Bob 16:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Mistborn sub-series "Wax and Wayne"

Hi. An editor wants to make a Mistborn sub-series, "Wax and Wayne," based on how the author talks about the series on his website. One example of that is here -- see near the end for the specific "Wax and Wayne" reference. This would affect your and Nihonjoe's verified The Alloy of Law: A Mistborn Novel and your verified Shadows of Self. Any objection? I will point Nihonjoe to this as well. Thanks. --MartyD 12:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I have no objection to using three subseries for the three trilogies in the Mistborn series, but then where does Alloy of Law fit? That pub needs to stand alone under the Mistborn series, not put in with the Wax and Wayne subseries, even though it may deal with the same characters as the second trilogy. That's clear in the cited Sanderson article. Bob 16:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
The Wax and Wayne trilogy is now a four-book series, so it should be just Wax and Wayne. The Alloy of Law is part of that series, and is not a standalone book (perhaps it used to be, but see this more recent article, where The Bands of Mourning is called the third book in the Wax and Wayne series). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:52, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
O.K., agreed. Mistborn now has four subseries, the first a trilogy, the second four pubs, and the later ones, who knows? Bob 17:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, guys. I will accept the submissions and make "Wax and Wayne" a sub-series. --MartyD 17:39, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Lovecraft Studies 18

Hi, Bob. In your verified Lovecraft Studies 18 you have a review of H.P. Lovecraft by several authors. One of them you have as Frank Belkamp Long. Are you sure that's not 'Belknap'? Maybe he's a mix of John Campbell and Frank Belknap Long :) Doug / Vornoff 21:35, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh, my, that's embarrassing. All my life, I've thought of the man's name as Belkamp for some reason, even though I know better. Thank you for catching this, Doug!! Bob 22:18, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Kenneth Faig

Is the Kenneth Faig, who is the author of A.W.D. (from your verified Weirdbook Five), the same as Kenneth W. Faig, Jr.? The essay that is also credited to Kenneth Faig would be the same author. Trying to determine if both should be varianted or if the essay needs to be disambiguated and varianted. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:21, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm positive that the essay is by Kenneth W. Faig, Jr. It's right in his wheelhouse. Comparing the poem A.W.D. with the poem credited to Kenneth W. Faig, Jr. makes me believe that he wrote that as well. So you should go ahead and variant both to him. Bob 04:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Magic Carpet Magazine & Oriental Stories

Hi, Bob. I second verified your Magic Carpet Magazine. I just found a set of these Odyssey pubs in a box in the closet and don't even remember buying them! I added a couple of notes to the pub. Anyway, I'm guessing the second cover credit for St. John is because he did the logo for the mag. Do you think there should be a note in the pub, the cover title record or both explaining that? You have the Will Murray essay on the "ifc" - shouldn't that be "fep"? Also, "The Souk" essay at the back of the book is actually credited to "The Odyssey Publishers" and not specifically to the editors. Do you think that should be changed and possibly varianted to the editors with a note of explanation? What do you think? Doug / Vornoff 00:00, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
And more. I also left notes on your verified Oriental Stories and changed the ifc's to fep's. I also noticed all the stories and art are merged with their respective original publications except for the ones on p.78 & 79. Was that on purpous? Plus I just noticed you've got it spelled wrong - should be Shaykh AHMAD, not AHAMAD in both the story and art. Again, it looks like "The Souk" could be credited to "The Odyssey Publishers" since it's credited that way at the bottom of the page. It never stops, does it? :) Doug / Vornoff 00:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I think the reason there was no merge was because of the misspelling. I merged the story and the art, which also corrects the spelling. You're correct about the second cover credit for Magic Carpet. I'll add a note to the pub rather than the cover. I still believe ifc is the right designation; I don't think any paperback has endpapers. That doesn't mean this meets ISFDB criteria, which I don't know. IMHO endpapers are the "extra", unnumbered pages added to hardcover books to create a standard binding. And I agree on the credit for "The Souk". I'll fix them. Glad to have the input! Bob 02:40, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
No problem. I know what you're saying about the endpapers. They are separate papers put in at either end of the book where one side is glued to the cover and the other side is free, so in that way pb's don't have them. I don't really know why ISFDB uses fep and bep except that with the latter, if you had something on the loose flyleaf part of the endpapers, you could refer to that as fep/bep when it isn't actual the ifc or ibc. I don't think that leaf is ever counted as a page, I dunno. I can only guess they wanted everything standardized so you don't have to worry about if it's a pb or hc. Doug / Vornoff 02:52, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Page "0"

If some of the art contents in this record appear on unnumbered pages within a range of numbered pages, then the page number can be derived. If they are on plates between consecutively numbered pages, then the page number should be entered as, for example, "|52.5" if it appears between pages "52" and "53". None of them should have "0" as the page number. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 05:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Brunner's Beauties variants

Please look at the submissions of yours which I have on hold. The eight submissions are varianting four titles (two each) to different parent titles. The titles are disambiguated as 29, 30, 33, and 35 in this publication. The two submissions varianting the title disambiguated as 34 sneaked through before I caught the problem. It was first varianted to "The Red Queen's Court", and the second submission varianted it to "The Mad Tea Party". Please look over the held submissions and cancel the ones that are incorrectly varianted. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

I see the problem now. After title 35, the disambiguation starts over at 28, which will have to be corrected. Please cancel all submissions, fix the disambiguation of the titles and then do the varianting. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

I knew I had screwed up some of these variants and would have fixed them today. I'll take care of it. Bob 17:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

More Possible Typos

Here are some more possible typos:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:40, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 23:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Gustafson's Classic Fairy Tales

I'm holding your submission to change this record from the first printing into the 17th printing. Perhaps you meant to clone it instead of editing it? If this is so, I can clone the record before accepting the submission to create a record for the first printing. Otherwise all data for it will be lost.

BTW, does this include fiction or just art? If it contains the stories, there should be content records for them. And if all of the stories were written by the same person, it should be changed to COLLECTION, instead of ANTHOLOGY. Mhhutchins|talk 03:11, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

It should have been cloned. My understanding is that Gustafson wrote or selected the versions of the stories given as well as illustrated them, but of course he is not the author in the usual sense. The book lists "sources" on the copyright page. which lists a number of books, each with its author and publication data, but doesn't assign which stories were derived from which source. I suggest adding a note to the pub saying that the stories are "traditional" versions of common fairy tales selected by Gustafson; alternatively, the stories could be listed with the author given as "traditional" or some such. Bob 14:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
It would be better to create content SHORTFICTION records crediting Gustafson and noting that he adapted them from traditional sources, no more or less than any modern adaptation of a traditional story is credited to the adapter. I will clone the original record and then accept the submission to update it. Mhhutchins|talk 19:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
O.K., done. Bob 19:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
You'll have to correct the dates of the fiction. It would have been easier to add them to the earlier publication and then import them to the later printing. Now you'll have to do individual edits of each of them to correct the dates. Mhhutchins|talk 02:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Done! Bob 12:43, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

"Grey Over a Greyer Grey"

Can you confirm that this is fiction and that it appears twice in this artbook (pages 44 and 45)? Mhhutchins|talk 19:15, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Confirmed. Royo writes blubs in his art books to describe the background of his art; this is one of the longer ones. Bob 19:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

The Book of Giants

Re this pubication: A CHAPBOOK record requires a single content record for SHORTFICTION or POEM. This appears to have three stories, based on your notes. If so, it should be typed as COLLECTION. There also needs to be content record for the INTERIORART. (One is sufficient, no need to create a "copious" number of them.) Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 16:51, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

I really was baffled by this pub. It clearly isn't a novel. It has 3 "books", but so does Dune, which I also recently entered, and that isn't classified as a collection. I agree that chapbook is awkward; it's really too long for novella to fit the whole thing. The "Book of Stories" contains multiple stories, and the "Book of The Great Forest" also has multiple stories. I'm going to go with a collection, then list individual stories. See what you think. Bob 17:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Submission accepted. Now the titles will have to be varianted. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:53, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Alice in Wonderland

Hi, Bob. Check out your two verified editions of Alice in Wonderland here and here. Is it true that one is written and with a cover by Frank Brunner and the other by John Brunner? The notes are substantially the same. Contents are the same. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

So that's what happened to it! I entered it under the wrong author, then couldn't find it the next day and assumed I hadn't saved it and reentered it under the correct author (Frank). I deleted it, and will have to go back and delete the title. Bob 04:45, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured something like that happened. Don't forget the content titles need merging or deleting, I think. Doug / Vornoff 05:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I went ahead and merged the orphaned content titles. Doug / Vornoff 17:01, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

James A. / James E. Warhola

Can you confirm the art credits (cover and interior) in this publication? Also, could it be the same artist James Warhola? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 18:58, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Given as "E." I created the pseudonym, corrected the A to E, and made variants. Bob 21:00, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Royo's Visions

I'm holding a submission to add a new publication record for this title, but it appears to be identical to this one. (In fact, that one also appears to be almost identical to this one except it's paperback and the price is only slightly different. Perhaps this could be discussed with the PV editor of that record.)

Also, the submission I'm holding is adding new contents, because you cloned it before a previous submission added contents to it had been moderated. As I've mentioned numerous times in the past, do not make a submission that edits a record until a previous submission has been accepted. Otherwise, the second submission is editing a version of the record which no longer exists due to the changes made in the first submission. If you determine that the held submission should be accepted, you will have to merge all of those duplicate content title records. Or you can cancel the held submission and start all over. Mhhutchins|talk 23:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I've cancelled the cloned submission - I must have hit the wrong key somewhere while I was entering the content because I don't remember cloning this pub. Sorry about that. I will message the PV of the TP to let him know I've entered the new content so he can copy it if he wishes, even though in the past he hasn't been very interested in interiorart content. I try to do that whenever I enter content in one of several editions. Bob 23:20, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Cabor Szikszai and Bolton Boros

Hi, Bob! Are these the correct artists as stated here? Because there is (for example) also 'Calendar—Jan./Feb. • interior artwork by' Zoltán Boros and Gábor Szikszai in the same publication. Christian Stonecreek 20:32, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Now that was a really interesting case. The two artists appear 3 times in this pub, and in each case Zoltán's name is spelled differently, Bolton, Zolton and Zoltán. Even in the Artist's Index it's given as Zolton. I've made Bolton a pseudonym and varianted the name on the artwork. Bob 20:49, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Ha! That's really obscure. Thanks for doing the extra work! Stonecreek 13:36, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Sword & Fantasy #11

I added a cover image to your verified magazine. I also added a short note to the magazine series, which I believe is accurate. Chavey 06:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Glad you caught the missing cover image. I have a scan of the cover, but just forgot to add it. Bob 06:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


Can you confirm the titles of this publication and its contents? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:08, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Also, confirm that it's in Spanish, since you cloned the Spanish edition. Mhhutchins|talk 17:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Also, provide the source of the publication date of June 2015. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:14, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Titles are correct; I may add individual artworks later. It's in English, although ISBN is Spanish. Printed in Spain. Source of publication date is the copyright page. Notes added. Bob 17:50, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
I fixed the titles to ApocalYpse :) but have a question for Bob... is your copy in English? If it is, I wonder if it's in the "verse prose" the Spanish version used... ? Susan O'Fearna 16:37, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, Susan, this new edition is in English. Based on other Royo pubs, I suspect all his recent pubs are published in at least four, and maybe five, languages: Spanish, English, German and French, sometimes Italian. I've seen ads for many of these on line. And no, my copy is NOT in verse prose, but straightforward prose. Bob 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Where the HECK can I get a copy in English... ? Susan O'Fearna 19:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC) :D
Check Amazon for the edition I bought. You can get a copy for about $20 from one of their sellers. I'm hoping that they will reprint the other two books in the series as well. Bob 22:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Previously Unpublished Title

I just approved your edit adding " Previously unpublished" to this title, and immediately thought better of it. Since the comment was added to a title record as opposed to a publication record, the comment doesn't really make sense. That comment will be confusing when that artwork is reprinted in another collection. You could write something like "First published in Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz", but personally, I don't think those sorts of notes are necessary, unless we don't have a record for the initial publication. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:10, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I agree, and have gone back and eliminated all the others in this pub. Don't know what got into me yesterday. Bob 17:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
You also had and edit to add the same comment to this title. I'm holding it while we're discussing the comment.
Cancelled. Bob 17:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm also holding two other edits. I'm pretty sure you didn't intend to make this title a variant of a novel.
Cancelled. I just forgot to cancel this one sooner; I varianted it to the cover already. Bob 17:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Lastly, I'm holding an edit to make this title a variant of this one I'm assuming that the title from your book represents a single illustration. Unless you're certain that there is one and only one Maitz illustration in The Talisman we shouldn't variant the titles. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:29, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Obviously, I don't know for sure, although I strongly suspect that each artist has one plate. I've found at least one ad in that says there are 11 plates in the pub and ten artists are shown; since Rick Berry signed the book, the extra plate is likely his. So I'm comfortable with the variant. Bob 17:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
That Bookfinder ad is for a different edition. I checked the Chalker/Owings listing and it only mentions the Krupowicz illustrations but also states that the book is "profusely illustrated". The review in Fantasy Review doesn't mention the illustrations at all. So no help there. Unfortunately, Grant's website doesn't have descriptions of their out of print books. I think that barring evidence otherwise, we have to assume that the artist credits are for multiple illustrations. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I doubt that the three Grant editions have much difference in the artwork between them, and that the "profuse" illustrations refer to the B&W illustrations, not just the color plates. I still believe the editions use the same color plates, one per artist. But I just don't care enough to argue further. I'll pull the submission and add a note to the illustration. Bob 02:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
The 2003 Grant edition is illustrated only by Rick Berry. It's still available on Grant's website. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:15, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


I probably should reject the submission to add the contents to this record, regardless of the effort you made to record them. As you can see (or didn't, I suspect), they've already been entered in another edition. If I accept your submission, you will have to merge and reconcile all of the titles, frankly, something I'm not looking forward to moderating. But I'll leave it up to you. Mhhutchins|talk 22:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

You're right, I didn't see them. No big deal, I cancelled the submission. Silly to ask others to do all that extra work. Bob 00:49, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

John and Joan Digby

In this publication, can you confirm that the article "Realizing Paper Tigers" was written by Joan Digby and illustrated by John Digby? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 20:53, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Confirmed. A daughter writing about her father's work. Bob 23:07, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Cover for The Science of Discworld II: The Globe

Hey Bob, for the submission of a The Science of Discworld II: The Globe, are you sure that cover is the same edition? The cover image on Amazon has that "A Novel", mentioned by the notes, in the lower right, but the one in your submission does not. I realize Amazon may have an image that was not actually used, but I figured I should double-check. If the cover you submitted is the right one, I think the note should be adjusted. Thanks. --MartyD 03:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

The book is not a novel, of course. I went through and entered all the covers for the four science volumes, including this one, but I didn't verify or enter any other data on the first three. This is because my first volume is a third printing and my third volume is a second printing and I just assumed my second volume was also a later printing. However my second volume is a first printing, and does not have the word "novel" on the cover. So I'll fix up the notes when I take care of the rest of the information on the pub and verify it. I'll clone the first and third volumes before I fix the notes and verify. Bob 05:27, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I accepted it. --MartyD 17:46, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Emshwiller: Infinity X 2

Did you add the contents to this record? I have a question about the different credits given in the publication, but I need to know who entered the contents. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 23:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

No, I just verified it. Obviously, I have started to variant the contents since whoever did the original entries varianted only a few for whatever reason. There is also at least one illustration not entered, one with only a vague reference. I'll try to track that one down and enter it as well. Bob 23:45, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Since you have the book, perhaps you can answer. Is there any reason why some work is credited to "Emsh", "Ed Emsh", and "Ed Emsler", when the entire book is credited to Emshwiller? Shouldn't the book's credit trump any individual content credits? Mhhutchins|talk 00:53, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Pardon me for butting in here, but I might have been operating under a false assumption after reading this following quote from the Author Help page: For short stories that appear in magazines and anthologies, the author's name should be taken from the story heading, rather than from the table of contents, if there is one. However, as with titles, this is not particularly important, and if they differ, and one is the generally used canonical form of an author's name, take the canonical one -- e.g. if the story heading says "P.J. Farmer" but the table of contents has "Philip Jose Farmer" then use the latter. Similarly, if you are entering the artist for interior illustrations, and the artist is credited as "Emsh", enter "Emsh", but if the contents page says "Illustrations by Ed Emshwiller", feel free to enter "Ed Emshwiller" as the artist even if the individual stories assign them to "Emsh".
I thought that what was credited on the individual content title page, be it art or story, trumped the TOC or any blanket credit. Have I misinterpreted somethin? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
That's true. But it's unusual for an art book devoted to a single artist to give individual credit for each single work of art. That's why I asked the question of someone who has a copy of the book. Mhhutchins|talk 03:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Looking at some of the examples, the ones labelled "Emsh" have that signature on the illustration, but strangely, not all of the illustrations signed that way are attributed to "Emsh". It also appears that not all the artwork is included in the contents. Illustrations whose first appearance is incompletely defined or that appeared in non-genre publications are ignored. None of the artwork is attributed in the text to anyone other than Ed Emshwiller. As I go through the pub, I can change all of the credits to Emshwiller; I intend to add the missing items as well. Bob 15:49, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
We only credit art based on artist's signature when there is no other credit given. Once the artist has been identified from the signature, we don't enter the signature as the credit...we enter the artist's canonical name. ISFDB editors sometimes assume that crediting art is the same as crediting text. It isn't. There are different rules for each. If each work is individually credited (actual text credit, not signature credit), then you should use that credit, even if it's not the canonical form of the artist's name. Those pseudonymously credited records will then be varianted. Mhhutchins|talk 03:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Chinese Fairy Tales

Can you confirm the author credits for the stories on pages 58, 59, 66, and 206 in this publication. There are three different variants of what appears to be the same author. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 01:29, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks, Michael. Bob 02:37, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Galactic Diplomat

posted also at User talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic Diplomat -Pwendt

The stated first edition you verified P14964 needs correction of a typo in the subtitle, namely DIplomatique => Diplomatique.

Fixed. Too heavy a hand on the shift key! Bob 02:08, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

With nothing else to say I would ignore that. There is a review in Toronto Daily Star 1965-10-02 p59, "He's a daring diplomat of the 27th century" by T. Humeniuk, under a subheading that I replicate here:

Keith Laumer. Doubleday.
227 pages. $4.75.

That price must be C$4.75. If the publication were not primary verified I would correct the subtitle; link LCCN 65-11536; add the Notes list item "Review Toronto Daily Star 1965-10-02 p59 gives price C$4.75."

As I write, however, it occurs to me that it would be more useful to note the review at title record T36965. Do you agree? As I understand, that would belong in a Note because Toronto Daily Star is not a genre publication. Right?

I added the note both on the individual pub (to give the Canadian price) and on the title (to give broader notice of the review). I agree that only a note should be used for this. Bob 02:08, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The title record now lists one year 1965 review among five reviews in the database, published in FSF Sep 1965. I don't know when that would have been printed or what it implies about the book's publication date.

I confess I was a bit lazy in my verification. I changed the notes quite a bit, eliminating all the exogenous sources of the publication date and sticking with the fact that the pub give the publication date as 1965 on the title page, that it is a stated first edition, and that the gutter code is G7, February 1965. I also added the sentence about where the stories appeared originally from the copyright page. Bob 02:08, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

(I found this by automated search for 'Galactic Diplomat', which hits no other 1965 or 1966 review in any newspaper covered by the ProQuest subscription at this university library, which includes in North America alone at least 2 Toronto, 1 Boston, 1 Hartford, 2 New York, 1 Chicago, and 1 L.A. daily newspaper --those I recall hitting in automated searches.) --Pwendt|talk 23:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Interesting that this didn't receive wider review, but I suppose that the fact the stories were published elsewhere probably led some reviewers to avoid it. Thank you for all your trouble! Bob 02:08, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Unibook date 'codes'

This [post] may affect the existing record of [this] Kothar title. --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:07, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

December 1959 Galaxy

I added the missing Finlay illustration of page 86 of the December 1959 issue if Galaxy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:14, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. I've been finding a few missing illustrations in the Galaxy issues, too. Bob 19:23, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

The Crawler by Lowndes

It hasn't been accepted yet, but I'm entering the facsimile reprint of Startling Mystery Stories #14 and it seems to be the first printing of The Crawler. Wonder if it's the same as yours. If so, you can change the date. The website that I'm getting this info does not state if this piece is a poem or not. MLB 05:57, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

It's definitely a poem in Crypt, one of a dozen in an article titled "Annals of Arkya" by Lownes. I suppose they might be termed "prose poems" in that they don't have a rhyme every few lines, but there's definitely a rhythm to them. That particular poem has 14 lines, the first line of which is "The papers spoke of gangdom's vengeful hand," If they are the same, why don't you just merge them? Bob 19:34, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

A Gleeb for Earth

Would you double check the author credit for A Gleeb for Earth in Galaxy Science Fiction, May 1953? Based on this scan (and the subsequent Project Gutenberg transcription), I believe it should be Shafhauser vs. Schafhauser. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:04, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

The credit given, both on the story and in the TOC, is as given: Shafhauser. However, Galaxy also gives the name of the author at the end of the story, as if a signature, and there it's spelled Schafhauser. So I'll make Shafhauser a pseudonym and variant it to Schafhauser. Bob 22:41, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to have to reject your edit for this. You submitted this as an unmerge. That won't work in the way you desire for contents contained in a container title (in this case the magazine). If I had approved the unmerge edit, you would have ended up with a story named "Galaxy Science Fiction, May 1953" by H. L. Gold. The proper way to do what you want is to remove the title record for the story from the magazine (Remove Titles From This Pub) and then edit the magazine to add a new title with the corrected author credit. You can then variant the new title as you mentioned in your note. Let me know if you have any questions on how to proceed. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:21, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Ron. Seems straightforward. Bob 00:50, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Jim Mahford or Mahfood

Can you confirm the artist credit of this work? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 19:35, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

It's "Mahfood". Fixed. Bob 21:56, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

The Other Sky

I 2nd verified your primary verified, updated the picture to show spine, and added some pub notes & page numbers. Markwood 20:56, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Great! Bob 21:57, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Rick Kobloch

Could the author of this perhaps be identical (or even be credited as) Rick Knobloch? Stonecreek 19:49, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Although the credit is given as shown, comparing this illustration to others by Knobloch in the same fanzine, it's clear that this one was created by the same artist. I created a pseudonym and varianted this illustration. Bob 00:39, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

SFBC editions

Per ISFDB standards for entering SFBC editions, I moved the ISBN of the retail edition given in this record to the Note field, and replaced it with the SFBC ID number. Mhhutchins|talk 08:49, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

O.K. Bob 05:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Cover art credit

If you believe the cover art credit stated in this publication is in error, you need to provide more substantial evidence than "appears to be in [Miller's] style" before changing the credit. Mhhutchins|talk 04:56, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

As the notes state, Miller is credited on the rear jacket flap. Bob 05:25, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I missed that part of the notes. I'll place them on the same line to avoid any confusion. 18:25, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Phoenix Ascendant

Re this record: If the "Previously..." and the "Gazetteer" are fictional, they are part of the novel and thus should not have a separate content record. Mhhutchins|talk 04:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Same situation with "Arduan Terms and Concepts" in this publication. If this is a glossary, as the title implies, it should be typed as ESSAY. Mhhutchins|talk 05:03, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

The "Gazetteer" is properly an essay (glossery); changed both this and the T&C to essays. The "Previously" part summarizes the first two books in the series; it's clearly not part of the novel. As to whether or not it should be included in the contents, I don't know because I've never run into this type of content before. Bob 05:24, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
I suggest that you mention the "Previously" work in the Note field, and then removing the content record and deleting it. Mhhutchins|talk 18:28, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Will do; seems like a sensible solution. Bob 19:30, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Bob. I was looking at your above Phoenix Ascendant and noticed the maps you have entered and it brought up a question that I wondered about. There are 3 books in this Balanced Sword series: Phoenix Rising, Phoenix in Shadow and Phoenix Ascendant. The first two have Amazon lookinsides and I can see that the maps (for the kindle - I assume the tps are the same) for Zarathan and Althazahr are identical. I'm guessing the Zarathan in your Phoenix Ascendant is also. If so you have different titles for the same interior art and would have to be varianted. What if they were named, for example, "Zarathan (Balanced Sword map)" or even "Balanced Sword (map of Zarathan)". Another could be "Moonshade Hollow (Balanced Sword map)" or "Balanced Sword (map of Moonshade Hollow). You get the idea. Since the maps actually have titles, I tend toward using them. That way all the maps of the individual areas could be merged and you wouldn't have all these variants all over the place. Does this make any sense to you or am I overthinking again? Doug / Vornoff 06:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Doug, I do have all these pubs in tp. I didn't check them at the time I entered the latest, but always intended to go back and see if the same maps were in each. I agree that using the map title makes it better because then a simpler merge can be used instead of variants, which really makes it easier, not only to enter, but also to use the data base. I'll take care of this today. Thanks for the reminder! Bob 19:30, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms

I added a few notes (publication date and cover artist) to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem 20:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 20:27, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

December 1960 Galaxy

I've added the missing Wood illustration on page 138 of the December 1960 issue of Galaxy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:38, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I have also made submissions to reorder page 123 so the essay container comes before the review, and disambiguated the interior art titles for the Bad Memory story. -John- Syzygy 15:30, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Luz: The Art of Ciruelo

Hello,I've approved the contents for this pub but can you check pages 58 to 61 as it's first The Book of Dragons then The Book of the Dragon for the same (or so I suppose) sequence. Thanks. Hauck 18:50, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Fixed. Bob 23:51, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Also, can you confirm the presence of an ISBN-13? A book published in 2001 wouldn't have it, so you may have a later printing. (The phrase "ISBN-13" is actually used and not just a 13-digit number with a barcode which may be an EAN.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 16:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
The book gives the shorter number on the copyright page, but the back cover has both "ISBN: 84-931278-4-1" and "9788493127848" on the bar-code label. Bob 17:36, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
That barcode number is an EAN, not an ISBN-13. It actually has to have the statement "ISBN-13" above or below the barcode, not just the number. You should update the record, changing the ISBN field to the one given on the book's copyright page. Mhhutchins|talk 18:34, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

January 1953 Galaxy

I'm correcting the artist credit for the illustration on page 92 of the January 1953 issue of Galaxy which we mistakenly had as "John Fey". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:08, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I spoke too soon, the same illustration is repeated in the UK and French reprints, so I'll check with those verifiers before proceeding. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 14-March

Here are some more possibly typos:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

All fixed. Thanks!! Bob 19:35, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

April 1956 Galaxy

I added the missing illustration on page 62 of the April 1956 issue of Galaxy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Good! Bob 19:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Minor changes to White Witch, Black Curse

I made some minor changes to White Witch, Black Curse which you verified. Added more information to Notes field about exact info from copyright page, also front & back cover flaps. Also changed the cover image from this to this -- only difference is color of the "New York Times ..." part just below author name. BungalowBarbara 02:12, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 18:15, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

The Art of the Fantastic

Are the parenthetical titles as given in this record the same as the titles given in the publication itself, or were they added as a descriptive disambiguation? (I'm assuming you added these contents and not the first primary verifier.) Mhhutchins|talk 03:44, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Michael, the titles with parenthetical material are as given in the publication. Don't honestly remember if I entered the information or not, but that's my weak mind. If I did, I did get explicit permission from the primary. Bob 18:19, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

The Dark Man #1

Re the cover art credit for this publication: Are both artists credited with the art on the front cover, or is Knox only credited with designing the title logo? If the latter, that record should be removed from the publication and deleted from the database. Mhhutchins|talk 16:44, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Same situation with this record. Mhhutchins|talk 16:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Your submissions to update these records made no changes. If you're trying to remove a cover art record, use the "Remove Titles" function. That can't be done by editing the publication record. If you're trying to update the cover art credit, edit the cover art title record. Mhhutchins|talk 23:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Teeth of Doom

Please take a look at Teeth of Doom and The Teeth of Doom. From the descriptions, these sound like they may be the same story and that the former should be varianted to the same parent as the later. Since you have verified pubs containing both, can you please double check? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:04, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

They are indeed the same story; both are variants of "The Tomb's Secret". Bob 17:57, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Virgil Finlay (Again)

If you're still categorizing Virgil Finlay's work drop me a line. Through a facsimile reprint of a Captain Future magazine I've discovered another Finlay drawing that has not previously been listed on this site. MLB 04:26, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I no longer have ready access to a scanner. However, I can give a detailed description. Coming up from the bottom left hand corner is a hand with rubber tipped fingers shooting rays out of them that are enveloping a male figure that has no details to it, but which is ablaze. On the right hand side is a head shot of a woman with long curly hair who has an agog or an amazed look on her face. This is all against a totally black background. It illustrates the story The Companions of Sirius here. I hope that this description is enough. MLB 08:30, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Good description! Thank you. Not one of my "missing" illustrations, but sounds like another of Finlay's great artworks. Bob 19:07, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Galaxy Science Fiction, October 1951

Would you please look at Galaxy Science Fiction, October 1951? The first record is an interior art record without a page number. Since the other art for that story has page numbers, I assume this one should also. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. The "illustration" doesn't exist. Must have been mistaking the second page of a two-page illo. Bob 19:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Gene Melton

I'm going to reject your edit to make "Gene Melton II" into a pseudonym of "Gene Melton, II". Please take a look at this help page, under the section Ranks, suffixes, prefixes. Our policy it to regularize suffixes with the a comma followed by a single space separating the name from the suffix. Instead of making a variant, you should simply change the name without the comma to include one. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Standard for entering suffixes

When adding name suffixes, the ISFDB standard is to precede it with a comma. So even if the credit is given as "Gene Melton II", you should enter it as "Gene Melton, II". I've corrected a dozen or so credits that you've entered without the comma. Thanks for keeping this in mind for future entries. Mhhutchins|talk 19:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

O.K. already! I've been entering what is actually in the pub. I'll change that in future. Bob 19:31, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

The Dark Man, December 2015

If this issue is dated "December 2015", then the Publication Date field must be entered as "2015-12-00". Periodical dating must follow the stated issue date, not the date of appearance or the date of printing. This is because periodicals often appear before the stated date. Or in cases like this, after the stated date. If there's a difference, add that data to the Note field. Mhhutchins|talk 19:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Didn't know that. Fixed. Bob 22:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
You'll need to change the dates of the contents. I've updated the editor record. Mhhutchins|talk 22:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Singularity Sky

Added the Canadian cover price to our verified Singularity Sky. PeteYoung 11:16, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Cool! Bob 18:53, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Extracts From the Galactik Almanack

In your verified Galaxy Magazine, June 1959, would you mind double checking the title of Extracts From the Galactik Almanack? The Project Gutenberg transcription has it as "Galactick" (with a 'c' before the 'k') vs. "Galactik" and that is also the way it is spelled on the cover. Dirk P Broer has already confirmed the UK version uses "Galactick" (with a 'c'). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:47, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

It is indeed "Galacktick". Corrections submitted. Thank you! Bob 18:30, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Beka Cooper: Terrier

Can you confirm the publisher credit as it is given on the title page of this publication? I've been unable to confirm that "Random House Books for Young Readers" actually exists, except as a marketing division. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 04:45, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Same question for Mastiff by the same author from the same publisher. Mhhutchins|talk 04:47, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Credit on the title page is just "Random House"; the longer publisher title is on the copyright page. Changed. Bob 19:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
ublisher credit should be taken from the title page when there is a discrepancy in how it's presented in different places in the publication. Thanks for making the change. Mhhutchins|talk 20:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 10-Apr

Here are some possible typos:

This one was not as shown, but correctly spelled. Maybe someone else fixed it. Bob 20:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Also fixed "The Planet Masters" to "The Puppet Masters"! Bob 20:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:11, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing these out. Fixed. Bob 20:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Change to map name in The Republic of Thieves

Hi, I just verified the first printing of The Republic of Thieves. You have verified the second printing. The map in my version is named "Karthain" not "Karthan" -- what is it in yours?

Also, the back flap of the cover says "Jacket illustration: Benjamin Carré/Bragelonne" and I notice that you have given "Bragelonne" as the second artist. I don't find such an artist on Google. I find that Bragelonne is a publisher in France -- perhaps a publisher or artist's representative for Mr. Carré? See

Thanks! BungalowBarbara 04:46, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the corrections! Fixed. Bob 22:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! BungalowBarbara 01:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

"Dedication and Forward"

Can you confirm the spelling of "Forward" in this title? Also, is it more than a dedication? Also, wouldn't a dedication be written by the author, even if it's "uncredited"? Mhhutchins|talk 23:15, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Fixed "Foreword". Nope, not written by Howard, but by one or more of the LANY members. Bob 23:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Vance's "The Miracle Workers" or "The Miracle-Workers"

Can you confirm that the version of the work in this publication has a hyphen in the title? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 20:11, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

No hyphen. Fixed. Bob 21:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Crediting art based on a signature

Re this record: An artist can be identified based on a signature, but that signature should not be used for the credit. If you don't know who "Kirk" is, then it should only be noted, and the record should be credited to "uncredited". Could it perhaps be Tim Kirk who drew some Conan maps? Mhhutchins|talk 21:54, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Might be Tim Kirk, but I don't have any of the known maps to compare to this one. Fixed. Bob 21:20, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


Hello, probably that, just like me, you've been surprised by the addition of the possibility of entering an EDITOR record. This may lead (when in "automatic content entering mode") to the creation of EDITOR records instead of the desired ESSAY ones by just typing one "e" in the "Entry Type" field. I've corrected two such mistyped items in this pub. BTW, can you confirm that this text is a SHORTFICTION? Hauck 09:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Wow, that obviously blew right by me. Thank you for fixing my mess to the degree that you could! I obviously kept messing all the essay entries; fixed that last one. Bob 23:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Thorp McClusk(e)y

Hi, You verified Hangman's Coin in Golden Fleece, November 1938 as being written by Thorp McCluskey. The FictionMags Index has it as being written by Thorp McClusky. Could you please check?--Dirk P Broer 23:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

The credit above the story is as shown, although in the ToC, the author's name is correctly spelled. I've made "McCluskey" a pseudonym and created a variant. Thanks for catching this. Bob 13:22, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

A Rhapsody in Amber

Added a publication month to your verified copy from the Publisher's log book in the Cheap Street Collection in the Rare Books Department of Tulane University. Thanks, Albinoflea 17:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Fantastic! Thank you!! Bob 18:21, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Ring of Fire IV

I accepted you edit to Ring of Fire IV, but please double check the spelling of the author on p85. Should it be Bjorn Hasseler? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:58, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Right you be! Fixed. Bob 01:18, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Franck Cho

In this pub, should Franck Cho ("Shanna #3", page 90) be Frank Cho? -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:11, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Definitely! Thank you. Bob 15:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Bell artwork in Specturm 2

Could I get you to double check the artist credit to "Journey to the Dark Side of the Brain", on page 17 of Spectrum 2. We have the artist as "S. V. Bell". When I added the his cover for March 1989 issue of Imagine..., the secondary source that I was working from had the name as "Sv Bell". I had assumed that this was a mistake, or that they intended "Sv" to be initials. I've now encountered another title that I'm adding where the secondary source again has the credit as "Sv". This caused me to do a little more research where I found that the artist does indeed go by "Sv" as a shortened version of his first name "Sylvain". I'm wondering if the credit in Spectrum is also "SV", without the periods, in which case we can simply correct the name for all the records. I'm speculating that this is likely the case. I'm going to proceed with adding the new title as "S. V." assuming that we can correct all the titles after you confirm. If it turns out that his credit in Spectrum is intials, then I can make the variant relationship as needed. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. The credit next to the artwork is given as "SV Bell"; in the Artist Index it's given as "S V Bell". No periods in either case, but capital S and capital V, together or apart. I would assume the credit should be Sv Bell; the world isn't very receptive to unusual ways of expressing names. Consider "the artist formerly known as Prince" for example. Bob 18:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. You may have noticed that I stumbled upon another illustration, again credited as "Sv". I've corrected the author record. Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:05, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Frank Grau

Since you have verified the publication containing the artwork by Frank Grau and Frank Grau, Jr., is there anything in those publications to indicate they are the same person? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:02, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

And is it the same person as [1] & [2]? If so, I'll add the links to the applicable author page. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
These are all the same guy. The contact information in each of the three Spectrum issues is identical (address and phone number). Looking at your item [1], apparently he uses the Jr. for business; his copyright uses the Jr., although the site title does not. I've varianted the "Jr" one above, assuming he now uses just Frank Grau for his artwork. Bob 16:05, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

The Jack Vance Lexicon

Earlier today I added the latest version of The Jack Vance Lexicon to the database. The page count and the subtitle change suggest that it has been expanded quite a bit.

I also noticed that the versions that you verified a while back credit Jack Vance as the sole author while Dan Temianka is mentioned in the Note field as the editor. My copy is currently boxed, so I can't check, but I seem to recall that most of the text was contributed by Dan Temianka. Could you please confirm? TIA! Ahasuerus 19:56, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I have to agree that Temianka deserves credit as an author; certainly most of the words are his. I'll have to see if I can get a copy of the new expanded edition! Bob 16:16, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Updated, thanks! Ahasuerus 22:54, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Frank Fazetta vs Frank Frazetta

Hi, can it be that all verified instances of Frank Fazetta, done by you, are a typo for Frank Frazetta?--Dirk P Broer 22:19, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching these typos. I changed them all. Bob 16:30, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

"Frank Fazetta"

Hi Bob, we have a number of records for "Frank Fazetta" which would appear to be a persistent typo of the artist's name, as they are all for INTERIORART (plus one ESSAY). They are all in pubs verified by yourself – do these need correcting? If the ESSAY appears as by "Frank Fazetta" it will need to be made a pseudonym, but my understanding of the different handling for art records means the typos are corrected but then recorded in the Note for the publication. Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 23:01, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Pete, I don't even have to look, they all have to be typos on my part; I'll change them all. Thanks for uncovering more of my typos!! Bob 16:27, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

To your scattered Bodies Go

[This] discussion may change where your PV should go. Turns out the SFBC changed the publisher credit after the first printing. --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:05, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

O.K., I moved my PV up to Primary since I do have the first printing. Bob 18:23, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

A Night in the Lonesome October

I have changed my Primary1 to Transient for A Night in the Lonesome October. You may wish to 'promote' your Primary2 to Primary1. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:47, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Changed. Thank you for letting me know. Bob 17:44, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Alex Horley-Orlandelli vs. Alex 'Horley' Orlandelli

You have verified the pubs contain the works by Alex Horley-Orlandelli and Alex 'Horley' Orlandelli. Would you mind double checking these credits? If correct as entered, then a pseudonym should be established. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm confused. The credits in the pubs are as shown, the name with a hyphen. I don't understand where the version of the name with quotes comes from. The art works credited under that version of the name are the same as those credited under the hyphenated name, but that version of the name appears nowhere in those pubs. Neither name appears anywhere else in the data base. Where did the quote version come from? Bob 18:43, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, typo on my part. I fixed the second link so try again. The quotes version is in Spectrum 11. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:49, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
All credits as shown; pseudonym created and varianted. Bob 21:00, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

P. Schyler Miller

Please check your credits for P. Schyler Miller and correct or variant to P. Schuyler Miller as appropriate. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:10, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Both misspellings by me. Fixed. Thank you! Bob 17:43, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Finlay Once More.

Well here we go again. I downloaded a review of Fantastic Adventures, February 1948 to Amazon with some illustrations here one of which is a poor copy another Finlay. I also did the page for this issue on this site, so if you recognize this illustration, since you're the go-to guy for Finlay's stuff, you might be able to variant it to something. If you're still interested.

In case you're wondering, I didn't primary verify this issue because of the horrible condition of my copy, including tape, no covers, no contents page, and it having bullet (!) holes. MLB 14:45, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Wow! What a history that copy must have! Thanks. Bob 15:43, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Masters: Fritz Leiber merges

I did the shortfiction merges for Masters of the Weird Tale: Fritz Leiber but wasn't sure about the two interiorart pieces, so I left those for your better-informed attention.... --MartyD 00:43, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Wow, thanks Marty! Much appreciated. Bob 02:38, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Weird Tales Facsimiles

I merged the Andrew Brosnatch illustration for "The Eyrie" that appears in the March 1933 issue of Weird Tales which also occurs in the Girosol facsimile of that issue which you have verified. I also have a copy of that facsimile along with several others that I have yet to verify. I'd like to make some changes to the records for the reprints, many of which you have verified (7/25, 4/26, 12/32, 3/33, 6/33, 5/34 and 8/34). Aside from minor changes such as adding missing content (coming soon, tail piece illustration, letters) and merging any illustrations that need it, there are two changes I'd like to make overall. The first is to convert these records from magazines to anthologies. My feeling is that these reprints are not truly periodicals. Since the cover date listed in the title doesn't match the date of the publication, this makes for some odd looking issue grids when these are treated as magazines. Compared to reprint series where we've treated everything as anthologies (e.g. Oriental Stories or Pulp Tales Press), I think having them as a series of anthologies or collections looks and works better. Also if we do that, there is really no need to include a disambiguation of "(facsimile)" as part of the title.

Please let me know if you're OK with my making these changes. I start with those issue that I own. For the ones that I don't, I can at least convert them to anthologies, if you'd like me to. Also, I'd love to know where you've been able to determine the date for these facsimiles. There's nothing in the publication themselves, and as far as I've been able to find, Girasol's only online presence is their eBay store. If there is a source for when they released each reprint, I'd love to supply those dates that we currently have as unknown.

Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:56, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Ron, if you think the changes will improve the data base, please go ahead and make them. As for the dates of publication, they were taken from the monthly notifications of publication from Girasol. When they were producing the facsimiles, they sent out e-mail notifications to buyers of what new issues were being issued so they could be ordered. I'm not aware of any compilation; you could contact Neil Mecham ( and ask him if you wish. Bob 13:07, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

The Life Eaters

I added some notes to [this verified pub. Also added pagenumbers and brackets (the book is unpaginated). Thanks, --Willem 18:28, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Willem. Bob 19:56, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Moore's Doomsday Morning

I've added the Reginald number and linked the LOC number for C.L. Moore's Doomsday Morning. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:38, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Ron! Bob 23:11, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Howard's Singers in the Shadows

I've added LOC and Worlcat links to Howard's Singers in the Shadows. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:02, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again, Ron!! Bob 23:11, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Short fiction lengths

Hi Bob. The help uses 17,500 words as the dividing point between novelette and novella. If the story is right around the cusp, it could probably go either way. IMO, letting the "short novel" tip the scale in favor of novella is probably fine. --MartyD 00:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Marty. I knew the limit was close, but couldn't remember the exact value. I agree that novella reflects the "short novel" label better. Bob 18:37, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


Hello, when entering magazines, be cautious when entering ESSAYs. If, like me you're sometimes in "automatic" entering mode, a new TYPE has been inserted (EDITOR) which is just before ESSAY so just type "E" gives you the wrong type. Hauck 10:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

I noticed (mostly). A pain if you ask me. I've made the mistake dozens of times, but usually caught it. Bob 18:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
I've corrected two in this pub and changed "Charle Schneeman" into "Charles Schneeman". Hauck 20:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
And two others here. Hauck 20:08, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
And also two here, sorry to say that, but please be more cautious, it will mean less work for everybody. Thanks.Hauck 20:12, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Sorry! I'll try to learn. Bob 21:45, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

The Power of Puppets

The following is a possible variant where you have verified pubs containing both titles:

Would you please review and variant as appropriate? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

"The Power of the Puppets" is correct in all cases. Thank you for catching this! Bob 23:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Riverside Quarterly, February 1965

I approved your edit to Riverside Quarterly, February 1965. But for the story on page 111, did you mean Ray Brandbury as entered or Ray Bradbury? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Sure did! Thanks. Bob 19
01, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Content type for some Dominick things in Riverside Quarterly, March 1967

A few of the subsequent parts of your entries for Dominick's works in Riverside Quarterly came through as SHORTFICTION. That looked like a failure to remember to set them, so I changed them to INTERIORART to match the earlier part(s). --MartyD 02:38, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Marty. Bob 15:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Introduction (Virgil Finlay Vol. I)

Will you scan this page (or take a picture of it) and then upload it somewhere so I can update the entry into Japanese? Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:14, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I've scanned the cover (w/o the dust jacket), the first (English) title page, the second (Japanese) title page and the colophon page as a pdf. I'd be glad to e-mail it to you if you would send me an e-mail at Also, do you want similar scans for the second Japanese language Finlay art book? Bob 18:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
I;ve sent you an email, and yes, please do the 2nd volume as well. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:42, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Done. Please let me know if you need more information. Bob 22:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:13, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
I've submitted changes for the two volumes based on the info in the PDFs you sent. Can you send a PDF of the introduction in volume I so I can get the Japanese title for that? Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I've submitted changes per the two new PDFs you sent. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Riverside Quarterly merge

I have your merge of Riverside Quarterly titles on hold. We combine magazines by year, but you are merging a 1967, two 1968, and a 1969 issue together. Was this intended? If so, what are you trying to achieve? -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:18, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm merging them by volume. As with many fanzines, there are sometimes only one or two issues a year (or sometimes none in a given year). While the Riverside Quarterly was supposed to come out 4 times a year, it never did. So I would make the title for the merged issues "Riverside Quarterly Volume 3, 1967-1969". Volumes 1 and 2 are already merged this way. Bob 23:29, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Riverside Quarterly, March 1971

Your recently submitted issue of Riverside Quarterly, March 1971 has several interiorart records that need to be disambiguated with [2], [3], etc. Albinoflea 00:05, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. Fixed. Bob 14:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Dangling review

Hello, can you have a look at this review. It's not linked to a title (likely wrong combination of author/title)? Thanks. Hauck 07:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Wrong author, fixed. Bob 14:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Cleaning up

Hello, when entering issue of fanzines (or quite obsucure titles), there is usually a certain amount of cleaning up to do. Please remember to check that all reviews are linked, that interviews are credited to canonical, that artwork (with number in brackets) and "genereal-purpose" titles (with publication title) are disambiguated and that entries by pseudonyms are varianted to the canonical. We've got a batch of cleanup reports (that have to be dealt with by moderators) that lists such problems. There was quite a lot of work with your latest batch of submissions (for Riverside Quaterly). Hauck 07:30, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I understand. I try to go back over submissions, but sometimes the moderators flag these sort of things after their review, but before I have a chance to get back to them. I don't mind that, but it's overkill. I notice moderators often variant author names for me, which is again fine, even appreciated. But if they did not, I would when I review the submission. Incidentally, note "obsucure" and "genereal" in your note! I'm sure you would have corrected them on review! Bob 15:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Lee/Lew Milliken

Hello, can you the authroship of this poen and that one, perhaps are they by the same author. Thanks. Hauck 07:44, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Both are "Lee". Now this one, I would likely miss on review. So thank you! Bob 15:17, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


Hello, can you check the authors of this poem and that one that may be the same person. Thanks. Hauck 09:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Good catch! Yes, fixed. Bob 14:08, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Pale Demon by Kim Harrison

HI, I am about to add a secondary verification for Pale Demon by Kim Harrison, verified by yourself. Publication date is entered as 2011-03-01 "per" Current gives date of 2011-02-22, as does an archived copy of the publisher's site. I also noted there is a little "date" code at the bottom of the inside front cover flap -- it says "0311." Added all this information to the Notes. I did not change the publication date. Is this OK? Thanks. BungalowBarbara 21:13, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I have no objection, but if you feel better about the earlier publication date, go ahead and change it as well. Chances are that I accepted that date from someone who originally entered the pub in the data base, but I don't remember for sure. Bob 00:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm OK with leaving the publication date as-is, it matches what little info is in the book. 23:28, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Wayne Connelly's review of Clarion: An Anthology of Speculative Fiction and Criticism from the Clarion Writers' Workshop

I was going to approve this Link Review submission, but then I noticed that the review appeared in August 1973. Could you please double-check that it reviews the first Clarion anthology, which appeared in June 1971, rather than the second one, which appeared in June 1972? TIA! Ahasuerus 02:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

It's definitely the first one, based on the essays and stories discussed in the review. The review also gives the 1971 date, but the discussion is an even stronger indicator to me. Bob 21:58, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I have copied your explanation to the Note field. Ahasuerus 23:00, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Zamiatin's "We": A Characature of Utopian Symmetry

I have you edit to Zamiatin's "We": A Characature of Utopian Symmetry on hold. Your edit is to the author field, but it is not making a changed. The new value is the same as the old. What was your intent? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

What I intended was to make the "A" in "LA" lower case. Bob 00:41, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
When editing a title, you cannot change the case of the author entry. The software will automatically convert author names that are identical, except for case, into the same case already in the database. I believe this to prevent duplicate entries from minor case variations. I rejected the edit since it was making no changes. Instead, I edited the author entry. Now, both records have the proper case. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:21, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Always something new to me. Bob 01:24, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Crash Go the Chariots

I accepted your addition of Crash Go the Chariots, but I had to remove the cover image. We can only use images from sites that have explicitly given us permission to do so. See ISFDB:Image linking permissions for a list of such sites. If you wish to contact the site to see about permission, the instructions to do so are below the list. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:14, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Bob 16:29, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Howard's Always Comes Evening

I've added the LCCN and Worldcat number's to the Arkham House printing of Howard's Always Comes Evening. There are a few other changes I think we should make, but I wanted to discuss them with you first.

  1. I think that we can go ahead and add the subtitle as part of the title field of the publication as "Always Comes Evening: The Collected Poems of Robert E. Howard". Since this is only a change in subtitle, it doesn't necessitate a change in the title record and thus no variant is needed.
  2. We should delete "Chapter Headings" on page 83. We have this listed as Shortfiction, but it is really only a section header.
  3. "Queen of the Black Coast - The Song of Bêlit" should be simply "Queen of the Black Coast" while these are presented as excerpts from the fictional larger poem, that attribution appears only at the foot of each poem and isn't part of the title. I also have the trade printing of the Underwood-Miller edition, and that one also appears to also have these and other chapter headings under the wrong title. In the UM edition, this particular grouping should be "From Queen of the Black Coast". I assume the limited edition is identical. Perhaps the one remaining publication where this collection of poems occurs is where the extended title came from. In any case, I'd like to correct the title in the AH edition and this and the other incorrect titles in the UM edition.

Let me know if you have any questions or think these should be handled differently. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:13, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

I have no objection to adding the subtitle or deleting the "Chapter Headings", although I obviously felt comfortable with the original entries. However it bothers me to change the title of "Queen of the Black Coast - The Song of Belit". I don't mind "From Queen of the Black Coast", but it would bother me to eliminate "The Song of Belit". Each of the verses is tagged as coming from that fictional longer poem, and eliminating that from the title seems to remove important information in my view. As an aside, the fancy U-M edition is identical to the trade edition, and the other book with these poems does indeed use the extended title. Bob 20:33, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
I've made the changes that you've agreed to. I do agree with you that the fictional source, "The Song of Belit" is important, but my argument is that it doesn't belong in the title field unless it is actually reflected in the title as it is with Winds of Time. In fact, the other appearances of these poems use the shorter title and already mention the "source" in the notes for that title. Other poems in the AH collection, where Howard attributes a source at the foot of the poem properly do not reflect their source after a dash ("Kings in the Night", "The Phoenix on the Sword"). We just don't have a standard for adding additional data as part of the title, except where necessary for disambiguation, which is not the case here. The notes is where this sort of data belongs. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
O.K., I guess if it's in the notes, at least it's recognized. Bob 18:42, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

The Old Curiousity Shop

Hello, I've transformed the REVIEW of this title into an ESSAY (it was not linked to a title and doesn't seem to be a spec-fic work). Hauck 07:34, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Given that this isn't a genre work, I just deleted the REVIEW; it's not necessary with the basic essay. Bob 20:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Losing edits

Since you mentioned losing stuff in a note on a different submission, I figured I should mention: This submission had no changes in it. --MartyD 02:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

It just got annoying when three submissions ended up with missing information, in some cases almost half of the entries. All of the missing material was at the bottom of the entry, so Reviews and Interviews were included among the missing. I've never encountered this before; I wonder if some recent change to the code caused the problem. Bob 18:45, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Are they showing up in the My Errored Out Edits? I have that happen occasionally. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:37, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Interesting. Two of the three showed up there. They were the entire submission, not the cut-off version. Bob 00:03, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Hobblitz vs. Habblitz

Would you double check the credits for Harry Hobblitz in Riverside Quarterly, January 1970? There is also a Harry Habblitz. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

"Habblitz" is correct. Thank you! Bob 17:10, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Poison or Protect

Hello, as per your calculations, I've changed the type of this text from SHORTFICTION to NOVEL. I've also left out the Title Series data (misleading in this case, with just one item and peraphs more like a publication series than a title series). Thanks for taking the pain to determine its length. Hauck 06:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I can understand why the author refers to the work as a novella, although technically it's a short novel. It's closer than I would have guessed, based on the page count. Bob 15:54, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

The Rose Sea

Hey Bob, I just added the Canadian price to The Rose Sea. MLB 03:13, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. Bob 21:06, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Nanny Ogg's Cookbook

Added page numbers [3]--Auric 20:21, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 17:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Bad Sword & Sorcery: Paperback Hacks, One Hit Wonders, and Lin Carter

Hi, Bob. Can you check your verified The Robert E. Howard Newsletter, V2n1 Spring 1998 and also your verified The Book of The Howard Review: The Howard Review Anthology under the essay "Bad Sword & Sorcery: Paperback Hacks, One Hit Wonders, and Lin Carter" in each. Can you check and see if they really are identical so they can get off Holmes duplicate titles list? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 02:52, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

These are the same article; merged. Bob 18:01, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Again, hi. If you get a chance, can you pop over to Willem's page and read this. It concerns your verified "Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art". Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:10, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

It looks to me like there are 3 editions of the same book. The first printing got split in two (books 1 through 250, and books 251 through 350) because of some delay in publication; these differ in where the signature is and in the dust jacket art. Then there is a second printing, which Willem verified, and which has different cover art again (which is not shown). I'm not sure if the first printing should be shown as two separate pubs or just shown with both covers and appropriate notes, but the second printing should definitely be shown as another pub (IMHO). Bob 18:01, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Bob. I think I'm out of my depth on this one and probably should have passed on trying to fix it. It's amazing the confusing stuff (at least to me) when you check out duplicate titles on an author/artist's works. Doug / Vornoff 21:46, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

He Threw Short with a Gasp

Would you please double check the date of He Threw Short with a Gasp? I assume 1910 was meant vs. 910? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Good grief, yes! Fixed. Bob 23:03, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Cover artist for Extremis by Steve White and Charles E. Gannon

Please see the discussion here. The artist is Dave Seeley, and I've submitted corrections for the cover title and notes on the the entries. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:00, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

The Spicy Sleuths

Hi Bob. Can you check the essay "The Spicy Sleuths" in your two verified pubs here and here to see if they are identical. They're showing up as duplicates on Murray's page. Thank, Doug / Vornoff 17:05, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

They are indeed the same; now merged. Thanks! Bob 18:40, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Roy Krenkel duplicates

Hi, Bob. In your verified Sowers of the Thunder you've got two identical titles for Krenkel's interior art, causing them to show up as duplicates for him. One is an overall credit and one is a specific to p.2 credit. Shouldn't one be deleted (or merged)?

Interesting case. As I said in the notes, I wanted to list the five full-page illustrations, and one has the same title as the book itself. I added (frontispiece) to the artwork on p. 2 to disambiguate it; I hope that's o.k. Note that the same problem did not occur with the 1973 edition of this Grant book because Ron entered that book and did not enumerate the full-page illustrations. Bob 22:23, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Everything looks good. By my thinking, you don't need the generic interior art credit if you've enumerated all of that artists work in that pub, so I would have deleted or merged it. Just me.
Yeah, but then if the illustrations appear elsewhere, you can't merge them. I've run into this a number of times, so I guess I'm sensitive to it. Bob 18:07, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

In your Howard Review, Jan 1991, looks like p.7 art title needs to be disambiguated to [4] (also shows as a dupe)

I guess I missed that one because the p. 7, 8 and 9 art is copies of the covers of other Howard literature. Sorry about that. I've now made it [4]. Thanks. Bob 22:23, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

In your Fantastic Worlds of Robert E. Howard I think you've got problems with your disambiguation of interior art title "The Fantastic World of Robert E. Howard" by Roy G. Krenkel. Check pp. 84[-], 125[4], 153[3], 156[5], and bc[-]. There's no [2] . I think that got mixed up with Koszowski's number - looks like his p.120 should have no #, and p.166 should be the [2]. For Krenkel, looks to me like his should be p.84[none], 125[2], 153[3], 156[4] and bc[5] unless I'm missing some other system you're doing (which is possible). In any case p. 84 and bc are showing up as dupes. If you change these, you'll have to do them on the title level or you'll have to do it again with the other pub.
Sorry about all this, but I was just checking some stuff I entered for Krenkel and it popped up. There's even more but enough is enough. 0-) Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 21:46, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I think I fixed both Krenkel and Koszowski's artworks in this pub. The problems apparently rose because some of the art by these two artists is disambiguated by the articles they appear in. Thank you for so patiently listing these! Bob 22:23, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
That last was a doosie. I know it can be pretty exasperating when you've got so many titles with different groups of artist split across a lot of pages. Good job. Doug / Vornoff 02:22, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Maurice B. Gardner

Hi Bob. Can you check your verified Wotta World #1 for the spelling of "Maruice B. Gardner". There's a Maurice B. Gardner who writes the Bantan books. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 23:50, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Good catch, Doug. "Maurice" it is. Bob 21:44, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art

Could you please double check whether the artist responsible for "Insomnia: Fans" in your verified Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art was Katrina Sokolova or Katarina Sokolova? TIA! Ahasuerus 01:52, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

"Katrina" is indeed the spelling under the artwork, but the artist index spells the name "Katarina", so the spelling under the artwork is clearly a typo. Corrected. Thanks for catching these! Bob 17:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for checking! I have updated the pub's Note field to clarify where the data comes from. I have also kept "Katrina" and set her up as a pseudonym of "Katarina" since the general rule is that we capture names "as is" and then set up pseudonyms. I am a bit out of the loop as far as art goes, but it was my understanding that explicitly stated artist names (in this case "under the artwork") get their own pseudonyms. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will correct me :) Ahasuerus 18:33, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
P.S. I have posted a question on the Moderator Noticeboard to make sure that my understanding of the current SOPs is correct. Ahasuerus 18:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
My understanding (from Michael) has been that for artists it is proper to just enter the correct spelling, whereas for authors, the name is varianted. I guess we'll see! Bob 20:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Riverside Quarterly, March 1982

Could you please double check the spelling of B. A. Byjczyk's name in your verified Riverside Quarterly, March 1982? Is it "B. A. Byjezyk", by chance? Ahasuerus 02:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

That is indeed the way the artist's name is spelled in that issue; I looked at "c"s and "e"s in the artist credits with a magnifying glass, and without a doubt the letter is a "c". However, the "e" in the previous issue artist credits is equally clear in this artist's name, and the "e" just makes more sense, so I assume the "c" was a typo and changed the "c" to an "e" in the March issue. Bob 17:43, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art

Hi Bob. There are two pubs for "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art", your verified here, and Susan O'Fearna's transiently verified pub here. It looks like the only difference is probably hc vs tp and price. All contents on Susan's after p.17 are merged with yours and look ok. You have many more content entries than Susan does. I'm wondering why the following aren't merged - could there be some actual differences. And even if there are, shouldn't they then be varianted?

Susan seems to have entered only artworks she could tie to other appearances and/or to particularly well-known artists or artists she likes. I believe the contents that I entered should be used for the tp as well as the hardcover, and I'm not sure why she chose to enter separate content. The titles on p. 6 and 8 can go either way; otherwise, I believe my entries are correct. Bob 18:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Pages 6 and 8 have slightly different titles.

Either could be used. The "2011" and "Ralph McQuarrie" do appear on the pages in different sized type. I left them out because the basic titles are used in most or all editions of "Spectrum", and felt they should just be disambiguated by the edition. But I would not have a big objection to the other form. Bob 18:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Page 11 has "Flashing Swords I" (varianted to cover of "Flashing Swords #1") on Susan's and yours is "Flashing Swords #1" (no varianting).

The caption uses "Flashing Swords #1". I can see no reason to use "Flashing Swords I". Bob 18:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Do you think your title should be varianted to the cover art record of Flashing Swords! #1? (Yours doesn't have the "!". Doug / Vornoff 02:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Page 16 has "untitled" (which isn't strictly allowed unless it's actually titled that, versus your "Untitled ink wash drawing".

The caption begins "Untitled ink wash drawing that Frank Frazetta created in 1993." The artist's name appears anyhow, and while the drawing was done in 1993, I don't know if it ever appeared in print before. Bob 18:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
If there's more to the caption should it be "Untitled ink wash drawing..."?? Doug / Vornoff 02:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Page 17 both titled "John Carter of Mars" and showing up as duplicates on Williamson's page.

I don't know where Susan got the 1959 date; the caption refers to "late 1950s". They should be merged, but I would stick to the date of the pub unless Susan knows where it appeared in print in 1959. Bob 18:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

I will ask Susan to join the conversation to see if she has any input. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 06:07, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying, Bob. I guess we should wait a bit to see if Susan responds. Doug / Vornoff 22:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

The Graybes of Raath

I'll be updating the title of this story and its associated artwork per this discussion. We currently have it incorrectly as "The Graybes of Wrath". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:38, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Munsen vs. Munson

Please see Pat Munsen and Pat Munson. Both of these are from your verified Riverside Quarterly's. Is one a typo? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:26, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

That is indeed the way the artworks are credited. Looking at the illustrations, they seem to be by the same person. The drawing with the "Munson" credit also has a signature that confirms the "Munson", the one credited to "Munsen" is not signed. So I have made "Munsen" a variant of "Munson". Bob 00:12, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Vonnis Crist

Can you double check Vonnis Crist from your Riverside Quarterly, March 1988 (page 146)? Should this be Vonnie Crist? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:03, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Oops! Fixed. Bob 13:44, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

The Poet of Science Fiction

Hi Bob! Should these be merged? They're both from your verified pubs. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:50, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely. Merged. Bob 14:40, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Windy City Pulp Stories #12

Hi Bob. I'm curious. I've entered a poem by ERB taken from the March 30, 1914 Chicago Tribune titled "The Contribs of Yesteryear". It consists of four quatrains starting with "From out the yellow, musty past of faded files and drear" and ends with "The ancient call for which I fall - To see my name in print." And I notice you have an ERB poem in your verified above titled "The Contribs of Yesterday" (1915), only a slight change in title. Are these maybe the same, and if so should the latter variant to the former? Thanks for checking, Doug / Vornoff 16:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

It seems to be the same poem. What bothers me is that the one I entered is attributed to the May 31, 1915 Trib rather than your March 30, 1914 edition. But I have no doubt these are the same poem. Bob 21:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
I suppose you would variant your version to mine since it is actually the same work with different titles. Either that or leave a note on one referencing the other. I'll leave it up to you, your choice :) Doug / Vornoff 04:32, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Done. Bob 12:35, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Queen of Wands

I accepted your edit to Queen of Wands assuming you meant it was an omnibus of separately published titles. However, I now see that these have not been published as a stand-alone novels. In such case, this would still be considered a single novel. Am I missing something? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:13, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

No, you're right on. The three pieces are complete novels in themselves, although very closely related. And I doubt they will ever be published separately. I wasn't sure how this should be presented. Bob 02:10, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
It would remain a novel with a single novel record. The individual sections could be listed in the notes. I see Hauck has already updated the publication to remove the individual records. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Gilden Latten Bones

I've changed the (small) Amazon cover art for Gilden Latten Bones for a (bigger) scan of my copy. I hope that it is OK with you. --AndyjMo 18:07, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

I believe that Alan Pollack's signature is on the front cover - on the bottom left just above the RoC logo. If you can see it as well then he can be attributed as the Cover Artist. --AndyjMo 18:13, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
I never would have noticed the signature if you hadn't pointed it out! I've added the cover artist. Bob 19:35, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Corben's Bloodstar

Hi Bob. In your three verified pubs of Bloodstar, does the Corben interior art title in any of the three refer to a single work of art, or are any or all of the three titles for multiple pages of art (i.e. the whole book's art)? Reason I ask is that Mavmaramis has the identical title for what looks like individual art pages in his verified Richard Corben: Flights into Fantasy and it's showing up as duplicate on Corben's page. If yours are single-page art, maybe you could ask him if they match, if not maybe a note on the dupe title not to merge might be helpful. Ah - it just occurs to me since you've merged those three titles, they all have to be one way or the other (single or multiple). Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 05:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Corbin did the artwork for the entire volumes. They are graphic pubs, so that's a lot of panels. Perhaps one single panel Maymaramis identified is the cover of Bloodstar, but perhaps both are internal panels. Bob 23:36, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll ask him about it. Doug / Vornoff 05:43, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Children of Earth and Sky

I added Wordcat and LOC links to Kay's Children of Earth and Sky. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:36, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Ron! Bob 22:25, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Swords of Shahrazar

I've added the Worldcat number and linked the Library of Congress number to the Fax edition of Howard's Swords of Shahrazar. I'd also like to suggest two additional changes, if you agree. Kaluta's credit for the jacket appears on the inside flap stating his name as "Michael William Kaluta", and I think it would be better to use that form of his name for the cover credit. I'd also like to add a single additional INTERIORART content record to cover all the miscellaneous illustrations (those mentioned in your note). We could use the same title as the book. Let me know if you agree. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:16, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree, Ron. Please go ahead and make the changes. Bob 17:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Wilcox illustration for The Monsters

I'm trying to determine if Jayem Wilcox's illustration for Leinster's "The Monsters" appearing in the January 1933 issue of Weird Tales is the same as the one appearing on page 99 of the March 1968 issue of the Magazine of Horror which you have verified. The WT illustration is of three giant insects, a beetle, a hairy spider and a scorpion fighting in a street. A women lies unconscious next to a man who is being picked up in one of the scorpion's claws. It has the caption "The monsters came back", though that could be omitted in a reprint. If you could check and it sounds like the same illustration, we could then merge the titles. Thanks in advance. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Ron, they are the same illustration (although you're correct that the reprint doesn't have a caption). All the illustrations in this magazine are from the original publications. Bob 00:21, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

NicholasS. DeLarber

Would you please double check the review of Ariel on page 7 of Fantasy Review, August 1984. I assume there should be a space before the "S" in "NicholasS. DeLarber". However, if the error is in the publication, please add a note to the title record and make it a pseudonym of Nicholas S. DeLarber. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:53, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Typo by me, of course. Fixed. Bob 22:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Star of Stars

Hi. Added publication month & related pub note to your verified Markwood 22:02, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 22:11, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Witches Three

re:, I 2nd verified, added publication month (August) and pub notes. I also corrected the intro title, and uploaded new jacket image to show the spine. Markwood 05:13, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks. Bob 20:49, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

On Basilisk Station

Hi Bob. I'm PV2 on this pub of On Basilisk Station and I see you have an identically titled map for your verified pub. I'm wondering if it's the same map. It shows Basilisk at the top with a triangle, connected by a vertical line to a large circle with "Solarian League" inside it. Almost Midway between is Manticore. On the left are circles representing Midgard, Silesia, Anderman Empire, Mazapan, and Asgard. On the right is Republic of Haven, Erewhon and Phoenix. If they're the same, you could merge them. The artist is credited in my version. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 05:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Same map. I didn't merge them, but did make mine a variant (since the author isn't credited). Thanks! Bob 20:03, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
If it's the same map, why can't you change "uncredited" to the artist credited on my verified publication and leave a note where it comes from? The credit is good and is given on an inside page. Just wondering. Doug / Vornoff 22:04, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I wouldn't object to that, but I thought it was both easier (no note needed) and clearer to use the variant. When you look at the pub, it shows the artist's name and that there was no credit in the pub, a twofer. It's interesting to note that the same map appears in all other editions of the title (I first read the book in the first mass market paperback edition), but nobody else who verified copies mentioned it at all (me included, for the first hardcover edition; I'm adding it there). Question: Why didn't you variant the maps in <On Basilisk Station and The Honor of the Queen? Off the top of my head, I'm not sure what other pubs this map appears in, but it might be in several. Bob 13:52, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Funny you mention that. I'd thought of that but if you look at the two they are slightly different in that The Honor of the Queen has three small additions (Seaford, Hancock and Yeltsin) and I didn't know if that was enough to call it a separate piece. I think I'm leaning towards variant with a note. What do you think?
I only have the first two pb's so I haven't seen any other maps. It's probably one of the simplest maps I've ever seen - I could have drawn it! Doug / Vornoff 17:55, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

.Wow, my version of The Honor of the Queen is identical to that in my edition of On Basilisk Station, without the addition of Seaford, Hancock and Yeltsin. And the credit for the map in the former is not "Eleanor Kostyk" but to "N. C. Hanger" on the copyright page. It makes me wonder if Kostyk updated Hanger's map in later editions of both books. I've asked the verifier who identified Kostyk as the artist if his map has the added locations. Bob 18:14, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

It wouldn't take much to update - the only thing done was the addition of the three names in type with a small, black dot in front, all situated between Manticore and Haven. There also could have been an error by the publisher. Doug / Vornoff 00:45, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Fantastic Adventures, Planet Stories: Complete Pulp Magazine Cover Galleries

Bob: I hate to be a buzzkill, but this book does not have a cover by Harold W. McCauley as you have the cover artist listed. The art is actually by Robert Gibson Jones for the February 1950 issue of Fantastic Adventures. Please don’t hate me. :-)

By way of an apology for pointing out this mistake, I posted another, very early, Finley illo here for the story Cosmic Frame. You can see that his style is still evolving. MLB 22:44, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. McCauley was credited for an illustration used on the title page, and I just blew it. Fixed. The Finlay illustration is indeed interesting, one I hadn't seen before. Thank you for that as well! Bob 23:29, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Robeert Lowndes vs Robert Lowndes

Hi, in your verified copy of the Riverside Quarterly, January 1970 there is an essay, Cassilda in Tsagoroth, supposedly written by Leland Sapiro and Robeert Lowndes. Could that be a typo for Leland Sapiro and Robert Lowndes, either by you or the editors of the magazine or have we discovered yet another pseudonym of Robert A. W. Lowndes?--Dirk P Broer 23:28, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Definitely my typo! Thanks, fixed. Bob 23:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Weird Tales, July 1936

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Weird Tales, July 1936.--Dirk P Broer 12:12, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what all you imported, but a couple of the letters bother me. They are by authors who only wrote letters and have no other connection to the ISFDB. I don't think they belong in the contents; the only letters that should be cited as contents are those from authors of speculative fiction. I deleted those letters. Bob 17:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
What I imported was the exact same content as the original Weird Tales, July 1936, that was entered before.--Dirk P Broer 18:28, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Weird Tales, March 1935

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Weird Tales, March 1935. It is taken from -as before- the original Weird Tales issue, so deleting content makes no sense as it already is in the database--Dirk P Broer 18:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Again, I don't know what got added. It appears the letter writers all have at least some minor connection to speculative fiction, so I'll let them be. Just because someone else broke the rules doesn't mean that I should. The sad thing is that the authors of the two letters I removed in the previous issue you amended had been entered more than once with no connection to speculative fiction other than letters to the editor. But I'm not a moderator and won't try to fix the mistakes of others. Bob 23:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Bob, I imported -like before- the contents of the original Weird Tales issue. You only 1st verified these issues and they had NO content at all, you can check here for the remaining two issues on your slate. --Dirk P Broer 09:51, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Wow, I guess I did ignore the contents!! Sorry about that. No cover scans, either. I'll take care of those two others. Thank you for letting me know. Bob 18:31, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Japanese Virgil Finlay Collection

I've been doing Japanese transliterations, etc., and it's not clear to me how the Japanese Virgil Finlay collection was titled. Since you are the verifier, can you tell me if Finlay was credited in English or Japanese, i.e., ヴァージル・フィンレイ, and the same for Lail?--Rkihara 21:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

For clarity: The half-title page is in English, the title page is in Japanese. Finlay is credited by the title of the book(s). The dust jacket front's only text is Vinlay's signature on the artwork. The spine is in English - title, editor and publisher. The slipcase front is in Japanese; the spine has the title and publisher in Japanese, but Virgil Finlay's name in English. The ISBN is on the back of the slipcase in Arabic numbers. The copyright page is in English, which thanks Lail Finlay. Her essay is in Japanese, signed in English (using her married name) by her. The text (presumably by the editor) is in Japanese, but all photos of Finlay and his family are captioned in English. All Finlay artwork is labelled in English (except the frontispiece, which is not labelled), citing the publication in which it appeared and the story that it illustrated. Most of the artwork is signed, either "Virgil" or "Virgil Finlay". The colophon page is in Japanese. This is true for both volumes. Bob 22:56, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll leave it alone, and clear it from the cleanup report. It wouldn't hurt to add the description above to the notes for the book.--Rkihara 16:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Good idea. I've added the description to both volumes. Bob 18:27, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Amra, September 1965

Hi, Bob. I'm entering some data for ERB-dom #29 and I've come across a letter written by George Scithers, supposedly from Amra, September 1965 and I looked at your verified contents and didn't see it and I'm wondering if it's even in there. It starts "In a speech that opened the DisCon 1..." and ends "Wait till the see Algis Budry on ERB in the August, 1965 Galaxy!", about 14 words long. Can you shed any light on this? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 19:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

George would hardly have written a letter to Amra since he was the editor. Those words lead off the editorial ("Blunders") of that issue. The first phrase begins the first paragraph, the second phrase ends the second paragraph. The two paragraphs contain 138 words. The two paragraphs are about half the editorial, which deals with the problems encountered by critics who actually criticize. Bob 20:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Bob. Ahh...I see. It looked in the form of a letter so I assumed, and we all know what that makes me if you assume :) also I mistyped 14 when I meant 140. Geez. I wonder if just half the editorial should be varianted to the original work or should I just leave a note on the separate title? What do you think? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 20:30, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
I think I would variant it myself; that way it's recognized immediately without reference to the notes. But either would be o.k., I guess. Bob 22:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Hmm...I just noticed that you've got the editorial as 'uncredited'. Since it's been credited by Cazedessus in ERB-dom, would you consider either changing the credit to Scithers or varianting to him? Then I would go ahead and variant the work to that. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 22:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Normally I would not; clearly it's written by Scithers, but none of the editorials are ever credited to him. But since this one is used elsewhere, I'll variant this one to make the relationship clear. Bob 19:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)


Replaced Amazon cover with full wraparound for your verified above. Doug / Vornoff 17:52, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Looks great!! Bob 20:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Marune: Alastor 993 vs Marune: Alastor 933

Hi, I've changed the title of your verified copy Marune: Alastor 993 to Marune: Alastor 933. When you look at the cover (and the title page) it says Marune: Alastor 933, which is the most common title for this record. Only Coronet has been known to print Marune: Alastor 993 on the cover.--Dirk P Broer 15:28, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Dirk. I'm sure it was just my typo that I read right over. Bob 19:13, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

The Arkham Sampler VIIn1

Hello, can you check your verified The Arkham Sampler VIIn1 and see if on page 6, the artist is really credited as Jiom Pianfetti or if it is a typo for Jim Pianfetti? Thanks! Anniemod 06:49, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

My typo. Fixed. Thank you! Bob 17:35, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Ralph Askren, D. V. M.

In your verified version of Exile's Return you've credited the map to Ralph Askren, D.V.M. There are also records for Ralph M. Askren and R. M. Askren which I believe are the same people. Any suggestions which should be the prime name and which should be the pseudonym? --AndyjMo 16:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I changed all of them to Ralph M. Seems reasonable, in light of no clear direction. Bob 17:41, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Vance's Alastor

Added the Canadian cover price to our verified pub. PeteYoung 21:19, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Pete! Bob 21:24, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Galaxy Feb-1954

Hi, have just been going though this pub at for a foreign translation and can only detect 1 illustration for the story The Passenger on page 117 - but no illustration on page 113. Are you good for the change? Thanks! --JLochhas 06:17, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

You are correct! Make the change. Bob 14:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)


Your verified Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art contains Thunderer by Stephen Youll. This interior art record is currently varianted to a cover art record that contains no publications. We have two Thunderer cover art records by Youll: 1883690 and 1883691. If the art is one of those, the current parent and the correct one of those should be merged together. If it's not one of those, than notes should be added. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

This record resulting from the Stephen Fabian Fantasy Collection is similar. See 906684. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:13, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I got them corrected. I'll check after they clear. Bob 01:43, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Diversifier submission

Hi Bob. Your Diversifier submission that I have on hold doesn't seem to be changing anything. I'm leaving it as a reminder. If you remember what you were trying to do, please cancel and resubmit. Thanks. --MartyD 03:24, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

O.K. Marty. I just have a better scan. Now it's fixed. Bob 17:48, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
If you have a pub linked to an image that has been uploaded to the Wiki, and you update that image (say, replacing it with a better scan), you don't need to edit the pub -- the link to the Wiki (the "Cover URL") stays the same, only what you see at the other end changes. If that's not what you meant, don't mind me! :-) --MartyD 11:01, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian

Hello, I was wondering why you want to break the varianting to the canonical, this will leave one single title in Stephen E. Fabian's page that will again have to be varianted to the canonical (that's what I did this morning). Hauck 18:04, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm just totally confused over this one. The cover art on that pub is also interior art for that pub and for another Fabian portfolio. I seem to be going around in circles trying to figure out what is already varianted to what. I'll cancel the submission and see if I can straighten it out. Bob 18:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see. It's Stephen Fabian vs. Stephen E. Fabian that threw me. I think it's all o.k. now. Bob 18:17, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Additions to Notes for Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen

Hi, I have added quite a lot of information to the Notes for Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen. This includes LCCN, Canada price, more info on what is on copyright page & cover, notes on content. I am working from 1st printing so I expect it will all match yours -- just letting you know. BungalowBarbara 23:46, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Cool! Bob 23:52, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Michael DeAngelis

Hi, Bob. I added this fanzine from data in the FictionMags Index and it was co-edited and had content by "Michael DeAngelis". I notice in your verified Weirdbook One there's a poem by a "Michael de Angelis" and I'm betting these are the same person. I'm thinking that "Michael DeAngelis" should be the canonical name because that form comes up more on an internet search than the latter. I wanted to check with you before doing anything. What do you think? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 21:10, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

The actual name given on the poem is "Michael De Angelis", but the data base software "corrects" it to "Michael de Angelis". So I agree with you that the name is more likely "DeAngelis" and would just correct the name in Weirdbook to that form. Bob 21:32, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Submitted. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 06:28, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Riverside Quarterly, April 1974

Hi Bob. I think you need to disambiguate Cy Chauvin's interiorart titles on your Riverside Quarterly, April 1974. They're showing up as dupes. Doug / Vornoff 02:47, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Doug. Missed one (again)! Bob 15:16, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Paul (J.J.) Payack

Hi Bob. In your Diversifier #16 I submitted a pseudonym of "Paul Payack" to "Paul J. J. Payack" (known much better by the latter name) and submitted variant for "Information Overload". Doug / Vornoff 18:14, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Doug. I am not familiar with that author, so had no idea. Bob 00:07, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Galaxy, Feb 1954

Hi Bob, have just come across this mag and I cannot detect the cover art mentioned on page 100. The story Project Hush only has one illustration in my on-line source and that's on page 105. Please cross-check! Cheers, John JLochhas 19:58, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

You are correct, there is no illustration on p.100. Because that illustration is merged with the one in the British mag, I changed the page number for that illustration and deleted the old p. 105 illustration. Good catch! Bob 13:40, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Robert E. Howard's Complete Conan of Cimmeria: Volume One (1932-1933)

As you have verified all the pubs under Robert E. Howard's Complete Conan of Cimmeria: Volume One (1932-1933): The title record is given as "(1932-1933)". However, the pub records are given as "(1932-33)". These should be consistent. I also note that while the pubs records are given as "(1932-33)", all the cover images appear to be "(1932-1933)". Would you please review these and make the title and publication records consistent under the appropriate title(s)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Checked the title pages, and the complete date is indeed used. Bad habit. Thank you! Fixed. Bob 13:30, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Mick / Mike Chinn

Hi Bob. Can you check the p.27 story in your verified Fantasy Tales, Summer 1982 for the stand-alone writer "Mick Chinn"? There's a prolific writer, Mike Chinn, who also wrote stories in Fantasy Tales and many other similar type mags. Looked suspicious. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 18:18, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Great catch! It is indeed Mike. Bob 23:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Linking reviews

Hello, please remember to link (or create the corresponding pubs or transform into ESSAYs) most of the reviews in Cosmos: Science-Fantasy Review, April 1969 as they show up on diverse cleanup reports. Note that I've varianted some of the pseudonyms of Gillings. Thanks. Hauck 09:39, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't think I've ever encountered a pub with more "cleanup" needed. I knew this from the initial submission with all the yellow flags, but Gillings reviews are eclectic and he uses so many pseudonyms... Bob 16:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Note also that the use of HTML tags in the titles is not allowed, I've changed those (but you deleted them). Hauck 16:08, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Oct

Here are possible typos in your verified pubs:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:24, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Fixed. Bob 17:33, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


In this publication, you have "Canto XII: The Wood of Suicides" but the suicides are actually in Canto XIII -- could you check if that's actually what the book says? (Also, is it the whole of the canto or an excerpt?) Thanks

It is indeed Canto XIII, and is given that way: my typo. Only about 2/3 of it appears there. Note added. Bob 18:28, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Also, "Henri Israeli" is actually Henry Israeli --Vasha77 20:24, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm confused. Henry Israeli is credited, and that appears to be the poet's name according to what I can find on the internet. Did you change to the correct spelling? Bob 18:28, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I did correct it -- I have been going through the contents there and adding some original dates of publication. I am about to get hold of a copy of the book soon, and add some more translator/publication notes (unless you want to do that yourself). --Vasha77 20:41, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
That's fine, please feel free to do so. Bob 00:02, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Second Book of Lost Swords

I've corrected a typo in the subtitle of the title record of Saberhagen's The Second Book of Lost Swords: Sightblinder's Story (we had it as "Sightbinder") per this discussion. Based on the cover of your verified copy of the hardcover, I felt comfortable to go ahead and change the title record. However, I'll leave updating the publication to you. If it turns out the title page differs from the cover, let me know and we can do the unmerge and variants, but I think that's unlikely to be needed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:25, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Of course it's Sightblinder's; the error occurred when I cloned the pb of that title without noticing the typo. Show's me I need to pay more attention! Thanks, Ron. Bob 18:03, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Brian J. Frost's Finlay profile

Hi Bob. In your verified Virgil Finlay's Far Beyond, there's an essay on p.v by Brian J. Frost: "Virgil Finlay: A Profile". If you look at Frost's bibliography there's a publess title "Virgil Finlay: A Profile (Introduction)". Was this part of what you were doing and it got changed and abandoned? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 20:57, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

I have to admit I don't know why that wasn't deleted before as an empty title. I don't think it's appropriate to include "(Introduction)", even though it is an introduction to the pub. Apparently the essay appeared elsewhere before it was used for this pub, so the plain title is the way to title it. I deleted the empty title. Bob 22:24, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
I agree that "(introduction)" is not needed for actual introductions to publications, unless it states it that way on the title page. Usually you see an introduction titled "Introduction" and you would append the name of the pub in parentheses. Also "(introduction)" seems to be used, rightly I think, when an anthology has its stories preceded by a significant introduction that the editor feels justified in adding. Doug / Vornoff 07:05, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Fantasy Crossroads 6

Hi Bob! In your verified above on p. 24 you have the author as "Michal" Fantina - could it be "Michael Fantina", who is a pseudonym of "Michael J. Fantina", the canonic name? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:56, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Oops - Michael J. Fantina is the pseudonym for Michael Fantina. I'll get the hang of it one of these days. Your entry is still "Michal", however. :) Doug / Vornoff 03:59, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Fixed it. Thank you! Glad somebody catches these typos. Bob 18:38, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

"Ms. Hammer" interiorart

Hey Bob, see the submission I have on hold. I don't understand why a variant instead of a merge there. ?? Thanks, --MartyD 01:51, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Same question about the "Moonlight Parade" ones. --MartyD 01:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
In the past, when I tried to merge two illustrations in the same pub there were problems. The only way I could relate the two was to make one a variant of the other. This problem only occurs with illustrations, since stories don't appear twice in the same pub. But Spectrum in particular uses some of the illustrations for endpapers, title pages of sections, etc. Bob 01:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. --MartyD 02:08, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Missing edits

I saw your note to the moderator about missing edits/redoing edits. You might be able to tell from your "My Recent Edits" menu, but I'd swear I approved yesterday or the day before edits from you that looked like the opposite of the ones I'm approving tonight (e.g., "Detail of XYZ" -> "XYZ (detail)"). But maybe I'm misremembering. I definitely processed some. Do you see ones in your edits list that do not seem to have stuck, or are they missing entirely? --MartyD 02:07, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Marty, some are just missing. The ones I resubmitted yesterday (corrections, not variants or merges) I know I submitted the day before. What I don't know yet is what corrections disappeared that involve the spelling of titles or names. I'll have to go through the pub today to resubmit those, and that will take time. Yes, at least some of the submissions were processed, for which I thank you and the others who did the work. But half a dozen times in the past year, contents I've entered have disappeared (always where the contents are numerous) and had to be re-entered. One of these that happened while I was entering content for the current Spectrum cut off the artist's name from the last item! (plus a dozen more items) This is the first time I've lost edits, though. Bob 18:21, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
There are two here that crashed but they are earlier than the one you mention (2016-11-09). ASFAIC, I tend to avoid to have more than 10 content items per submission. Hauck 18:30, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
I can't access that item. When there are more than 500 items of content, entering only 10 at a time is a problem. I've learned to limit content, but to more like a hundred items at a time. I guess I have to cut back! Bob 18:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
I was afraid of that, there are only those two lines in the report :

2016-11-09 22:32:27 PubUpdate Biomassbob UNKNOWN Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fa
2016-11-09 13:56:05 PubUpdate Biomassbob UNKNOWN Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fa
Hauck 18:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I think those were page number corrections, but the page numbers were indeed corrected (at least the ones in the first 50 pages). I'll see about the others as I go through. I just caught a misspelling not corrected: Silmarillion on p. 53. Bob 18:42, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

"Trans" titles

Hi Bob. I accepted this pub, but it looks like you put a translation in for the transliterated title. The transliterated title should just be a phonetic transcription of titles involving non-Latin alphabets. Translations should be handled via notes and/or variants. With a variant to a different language in place, the system will automatically display one title as a translation of the other. Thanks. --MartyD 11:40, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, now I know. Bob 18:13, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Alfred Klosterman

Hi Bob. Can you check the first name "Alftre" on p.9 of your verified Fantasy Tales V9n17, Summer 1987 to see if it isn't "Alfred"? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 05:24, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

It is indeed "Alfred". Fixed and varianted. Bob 21:35, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Coven 13, November 1969

Hi. In your verified above, I corrected the p.9 title to add a "-" between "were" and "wolf" as it is on the story's title page and added a note for it. Doug / Vornoff 14:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Doug! Bob 21:36, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Unquiet Grave

You have verified the pubs containing Unquiet Grave and The Unquiet Grave. Would you mind checking if these are the same poem and either variant or add notes as appropriate? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:48, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

These are indeed the same poem, but the version in the 1977 pub is shorter by two verses. I added notes to both. Excellent catch! Bob 21:27, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Caliban's War

Hi Bob. I accepted your edits to Caliban's War, but the cover image link ended up in the ISBN field, so I moved it, and I fixed the contained title to be the one credited to Corey instead of the one credited to Abraham and Franck (to match the change you made to the pub author credit). Please check that it all looks as you intended. Hopefully, I didn't hurt anything.... --MartyD 03:37, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Looks good, Marty. When I entered the pub in the first place, it automatically set the authors, which is why I had to change to the pseudonym. And Subterranean Press doesn't use ISBNs, so I could make the silly mistake of entering the cover art there. Appreciate your help! Bob 04:04, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Mirko Failoni vs Mirka Failoni

Hi, in both editions of Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art, of which you are the sole verifier so far, there appear two pieces from Mirka Failoni (p.126) and one from Mirko Failoni (p.141). All are about mushrooms. Can you please check?--Dirk P Broer 12:54, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Dirk, thanks for giving the page numbers! Both should be "Mirko". I do have trouble distinguishing between "o" and "a" in the typescript the pub uses. Fixed. Bob 16:06, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
That could also explain the 'Alex Horley (p.106)' 'Alex Harley (p.219)' mix-up in that publication. It should both be Alex Horley.--Dirk P Broer 16:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Hyejeong Park

In Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art, on page 210 the credit is Hyejeong Park and on page 241 the credit is Hye Jeong Park. Would you please double check these? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:39, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Interesting case. That is indeed the way the name appears in the pub, but in the Artist Index, Mr. Park's name appears as "HyeJeong Park". I trust that source more than the individual artworks, so I've changed all of his citations to that form. Bob 16:12, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Dragonfields, #3

You are the pv for Dragonfields #3. The inside back cover is credited to "Bierley". The only other art we had for "Bierley" turns out to have been as an alias for Stephen Hickman, so the presumption is that this piece is also a pseudonym for Hickman. (I have tentatively set it up as such.) If you have the chance, could you check to see if there is any evidence for, or against, this conclusion? For example, the appearance of his "S" rune in the art would be conclusive evidence. Thanks, Chavey 22:49, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Interesting! It does indeed have a stylized "S" rune on the arm of the ape man figure in the drawing. Bob 21:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Then it looks like it is, indeed, a pseudonym for Hickman. I'll add a note to the publication about that. Chavey 08:33, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Under the Yoke

Adjusted the page count, added a note, and some content to Under the Yoke. MLB 06:11, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Cool! Bob 17:53, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hannes Bok dupe art credit

Hi Bob. Two of your Bok art titles on p.42 & 44 are showing up as dupes here. I think you'll have to disambiguate at the title level for p.44 art since it's spread over four titles. Cheers, Doug / Vornoff 03:55, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

No, it was possible to just disambiguate the four-banger. Both of the unabiguated titles are the same in two of the pubs, and are variants in the other two. Fixed. Thanks for spotting this one! Bob 04:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean

Hello, I've approved your pub but took the liberty to change the last three items' author name from "The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean" to "Stephen Hickman", I supposed a faulty cut/paste. Hauck 07:23, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Indeed it was. Thanks! Bob 20:41, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

7 Footnotes to Merritt by Phillips

Hi Bob. In your verified here and here, in the INTERIORART title 7 Footnotes to Merritt by Phillips, they are showing up as dupes on Phillips' page. In the second pub, they need disambiguation and if they are the same as in the first one, you know the drill. Fun. Doug / Vornoff 02:35, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

This was a repeat of the same article, which I didn't recognize since the entries were months apart. I think I've fixed it; I'll check tomorrow. Glad there was something to catch this! Bob 04:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi, in checking through my copy of Wonderworks, I notice that the Whelan essay on p.13 is titled "Foreword" on its title page, not "Foreword by the Artist" as in the ToC. As one of the other three verifiers, could you check your copy to see if it's that way as well. If all four are the same the title could be changed at the title level and avoid removing, deleting and varianting. I've got the ok from my copy's prime verifier. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

My edition is indeed the same way. Bob 15:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)


Hi Bob. I changed the publisher on The Watcher at the Door from Haffner (which we didn't have) to Haffner Press (which we did). I confirmed the book on --MartyD 01:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I realized I had not put "Press" in after I entered the pub, and intended to fix it myself. Nice not to have to. Bob 03:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Dragonfields #3

Hi Bob. I made links out of your two Dragonfield notes in your Dragonfields 3. Doug / Vornoff 02:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. Bob 03:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Early Kuttner 2

I've made a few changes to the The Watcher at the Door and the bonus chapbook. For Man's Conquest of Space, I'm changing the page count to "[8]". You appear to have included the covers in your page count, which is something that we only do for magazines. I've also adjusted the page number of the story to match this page numbering.

For the other book, I've corrected the title of Madle's foreword, which you had as "Foreword: The Watcher at the Door: The Early Henry Kuttner, Volume Two". There isn't a subtitle on the title page, so I've changed it to the usual disambiguation. I've changed the author credit to Roberts' introduction to "Garyn G. Roberts, Ph.D." (you had "Dr. Garyn G. Roberts") to match the title page. Lastly, I've swapped the title record for "Telepathy is News!" to the one under the Paul Edmonds pseudonym as it is credited.

I also have a couple of questions. I noticed that you marked those stories coming from Thrilling Mystery as non-genre. I'm curious if you are familiar enough with the stories to know that they have no speculative content. Thrilling Mystery started as a horror magazine and only made a gradual shift to more conventional mysteries. It is listed in both Miller/Contento and Tuck. I would assume that the stories are speculative unless they are known to be otherwise. I also wanted to question your source of dates for the two titles. Neither has a month of publication that I can find. You added the chapbook as November, and the main book as December. Mine arrived together in December. I'm just wondering why you chose different dates. Thanks --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:57, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I don't know the Thrilling Mystery stories, but I did skim through them before I labelled them non-genre. It may be that my skimming was not sharp enough, so I would have no objection if you or someone else flipped them back after reading them. But my flash judgement was that they were non-genre. As for the November date, that was a typo on my part. Fixed. The December date was based on the publisher's notice that he shipped the book, not on its arrival date. Bob 23:54, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Verify an illustrator for Fantasy Review?

I ran across an illustrator for a fanzine (FOSFAX) listed as Ben Böst. There is a Ben Bost (no umlaut on name) listed in two issues of Fantasy Review, here and here. Both the credit and signature in FOSFAX have the umlaut. Can you check if your Bost is the same? You had verified both issues, Mhhutchins verified both but is unavailable, BLongley verified one and is unavailable and Albinoflea verified only one. Thanks. Doug H 15:06, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Neither issue uses an umlat. Art credits in this pup are given on the contents pages, just listing the page and artist. It wouldn't surprise me if they just ignored the umlat. Bob 17:52, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
I'll try learning how to make the umlaut version a variant name. Wish me luck. Doug H 20:09, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Angus MacLeod

Hi, I've made the illustrator of US magazine The Diversifier, #19 March 1977 a different person than the 1906 born Scottish author Angus MacLeod, Angus MacLeod (I).--Dirk P Broer 16:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Good idea, obviously. Thank you! Bob 18:00, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Jon Artstrom vs Jon Arfstrom

Hi, in both instances of The Watcher at the Door: The Early Henry Kuttner, Volume Two, for which you are the first verifier, the cover art is credited to Jon Artstrom, while I -and Amazon with me- think it should be Jon Arfstrom. Can you please check?--Dirk P Broer 12:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Boy, without knowing the artist, I'd still think it was Artstrom. The font just doesn't distinguish the "t" from the "f" for my old eyes! Fixed. Thank you for catching this. Bob 17:29, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

"Toadstool Wine", ed. W. Paul Ganley

I added two notes (the final ones) to your verified publication Chavey 21:29, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Bob 22:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Philip Heath / Phillip C. Heath

Hi Bob. Do you have any objection to making a pseudonym out of Philip Heath to parent Phillip C. Heath and varianting his single work under that name in your verified Dark Fantasy April 1979? has that piece as being written by the same Heath that wrote all the works under Phillip C. Heath. Same goes for Philip C. Heath (one 'l') in your Fantasy Tales Spring 82. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:00, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Please go ahead with the variants. I checked both 'zines and the attribution is correct as shown. I guess having a name like "Phillip" you have to expect people to occasionally misspell it. Bob 16:10, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Bob, I've submitted them. I always have to double-check myself on all "Phillip" names - I've typed one, two or even three l's at times - even two i's in a row. Doug / Vornoff 18:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Return to Wonder

Hi again. In your pv1'd Return to Wonder #8, the p.14 essay "The Bookworm Speaks" is showing up as a duplicate for Grose with the same title in RTW #7 (verifier is defunct, presumably). It looks like a book review column, in which case might benefit from disambiguation in both #7 and #8. What do you think? Doug / Vornoff 18:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

It is a book review column. I think you're right, it's probably a regular feature of the 'zine and both should be disambiguated using the title of the 'zine. Of course, you never know when you only have one issue . . . Bob 21:10, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
That's true - I'd really be surprised if it was something other than that. Thanks for taking care of it. Doug / Vornoff 04:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Guyal of Sfere

Hi, you added a record for a revised version of Guyal of Sfere. Do you think it ought to be distinguished from the original? I was thinking of changing its name to "Guyal of Sfere (revised)" --Vasha 15:04, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

That makes sense to me. Go for it! Bob 16:37, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


Added cover scan and notes to Dodger.SFJuggler 01:28, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 15:28, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Tales from Gavagan's Bar

re, uploaded new jacket scan to show spine. Markwood 04:21, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Looks nice! Bob 15:28, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Also, I've 2nd PV'd the 1978 version and added "(Expanded Edition)" to the title plus some pub notes. Markwood 20:15, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Great! Bob 21:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Graph for "By His Bootstraps"

Hello, Bob! I don't know if this may ring a bell for you, it only seems possible that it was previously published in a nonfiction title by or concerned with Heinlein (no actual source is mentioned in the publication it popped up in). It's a graphic plot for the complicated happenings in said story. Christian Stonecreek 12:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. I went to check the notes on the story in the Heinlein Virginia edition, but no mention of such a plot there. I suppose it might be included in the Heinlein letters, but I'm too lazy to go through those volumes. I do remember trying to keep track of what was happening when I first read that story though. Bob 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Well, it's possible that it is an original publication as some of the other art pieces get sourced. Thanks for spending some remembering resources! Stonecreek 16:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Music of Many Spheres

re: updated jacket scan to show spine. Markwood 06:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't have any objection, but why do you want to see the spine for this pub? I can understand showing the spine for pubs without the title on the front or when an illustration continues from the front to the spine. But why show it for other cases? Bob 15:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Dec

The following are possible typos in your verified pubs:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for finding these! Much appreciated. Bob 21:12, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Here is an additional one where the Primary1 is no longer active:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 04:28, 31 December 2016 (UTC)