User talk:Artisan

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Hello, Artisan, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Annie 00:41, 17 December 2018 (EST)

Once Around the Sun

Regarding your note when you submitted this one - it does not really matter if it is horror or fantasy because genre horror is in scope for the database (psychological horror is not) :) Annie 01:29, 17 December 2018 (EST)

Field contents

Hi, be sure to read our wiki field-by-field guide when it comes to entering data in specific fields. Only ISBN nos. go into ISBN fields, only catalog nos. go in the catalog no. field.--Dirk P Broer 18:35, 18 December 2018 (EST)

And this refers to which edit? --Artisan 18:46, 18 December 2018 (EST)

For the ISBNs

Here is the rule. 2008 and later, we accept only ISBN-13; 2006 and earlier - ISBN10 (if the book has ISBN13 at this point, it is a good indication that you have a later printing). 2007 is the watershed year and we accept both - if you have the book, we want the one on the book. If both are stated - either works; no real preference :) Annie 20:36, 18 December 2018 (EST)

Oh, absolutely both are in and on the book [copyright page and back cover]. No indication of a later printing, and this is in your 'watershed' terrain. Cosmos barely sold books in the first printing. Just trying to fine-tune this process. I've used the database pretty much since its inception [even when it was offline more than on - Beta period] but never had the time to even consider spending any real time here [wasn't even sure it would survive]. So I'm familiar with most of the process, just not much time manipulating it. Thanks for the response! --Artisan 21:04, 18 December 2018 (EST)
And that's why I approved your edit. But saw the question under it - and came over to explain the situation with the ISBNs :) Annie 21:37, 18 December 2018 (EST)

Cover art ...

... is only the art on the front - except when there are two fronts (as in the Ace Doubles). So I have transformed the 'second' cover art into an interior art piece. Stonecreek 16:40, 20 December 2018 (EST)

So, if it was printed upside down it would be fine? ;) --Artisan 17:18, 20 December 2018 (EST)

... also can be puzzling, as in the example of White Holes: Cosmic Gushers in the Universe, which poses a riddle to me as the cover picture seems to be credited to 'NASA/Space Frontiers' per the note on the back cover, while you credited it to Chris Foss. It's only that I can't find his trademark 'F'. Stonecreek 11:22, 21 December 2018 (EST)

My first OOPS! ... and a good one. Changed the image but there doesn't seem to be a way to delete the old one from the file page. --Artisan 12:46, 21 December 2018 (EST)

Time Twister

Your Time Twister clone had to be forced rejected. This happens when data in the submission is no longer valid. This most often occurs when a record within the pub has been merged (when two records are merged, the data from both records is combined and one record is actually deleted). Since you had a merge before this, that was probably the case here. Care needs to be taken when submitting multiple edits that impact a publication. Unfortunately, you will have to resubmit the clone. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2018 (EST)

That is an odd result, as the edition being cloned was not 'edited' in any way. The merging was for a previous record that had the work as a novel instead of a chapbook. Even the internal content of the chapbook was not affected. Interesting ... software ... ? --Artisan 18:56, 31 December 2018 (EST)
Correct, but the merged record (the chapbook record) was part of this publication being cloned. Before the merge, there was a separate novel record and chapbook record. When the merge was done, there was only a single, combined record which likely was the original novel record (only now with the chapbook type). When merges are done, the software combines the data between the two records into the lowest numbered record and deletes the higher numbered one(s). The internal content of the chapbook was affected as it contained that the original chapbook record (which was deleted). When you submitted the clone, you submitted a clone of an existing record. When I went to process it, it was no longer valid as the cloned record no longer existed (due to the merge being approved already). The merge logic is pretty straightforward, but its better to avoid submitting overlapping edits than counting on how it will work. This is true for any type of overlapping edit as there is no guarantee that edits will be approved in the order they are submitted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:36, 31 December 2018 (EST)
Aha, defaulting to the lower record # I had not considered. I would have thought the software would recognize the end record, whichever was to be the 'new' record, as the 'correct' one. I'll know next time. It's amazing that no matter how long one deals with a database in the information stages how different it can be in the manipulation of same. Thanks for the explanation. --Artisan 19:46, 31 December 2018 (EST)

From the Earth to the Moon

I have taken the liberty of updating the note on this publication to use the Tr translation template and to note the misspelling of Blair (Bair). I will also be updating the title record to provide the first couple of sentences of the translation so it can be differentiated from the other translations. ../Doug H 22:24, 26 February 2019 (EST)

All Systems Red

Hello, I've just submitted an update of your PV'd record of All Systems Red. My copy seems to be PoD, as it states it has been printed in Poland and I've added a note clarifying this. Could you verify your copy, and confirm whether or not yours contains PoD info too? If so, can you let me know what exactly?
See for example Binti: The Night Masquerade for an example where there's both regular, and PoD copies available. If it turns out All Systems Red is a similar case, we can separate the pub record out into a regular, and a PoD one. MagicUnk 11:06, 1 May 2019 (EDT)

Galaxy's Edge

I added notes and cover art credit to Galaxy's Edge Susan O'Fearna 17:19, 7 October 2020 (EDT)

Foundation / I, Robot

Robot on the cover of this is the same robot as on the cover of this thus by Chris Moore. --Mavmaramis 06:04, 7 November 2020 (EST)

Horizon Storms

Added design credit and LCCN to Horizon Storms Scifibones 10:55, 9 April 2021 (EDT)

Metal Swarm

Just added LCCN to Metal Swarm Scifibones 11:04, 9 April 2021 (EDT)

The Ashes of Worlds

Also The Ashes of Worlds Scifibones 11:11, 9 April 2021 (EDT)


I'm correcting errors and adding notes and a title to Ghost Scifibones 12:14, 10 April 2021 (EDT)


Added one pub note to Steppe John

Isle of Woman

Added jacket design credit and LCCN to Isle of Woman John 1:51, 10 April 2021 (EDT)

Fractal Mode

I added several notes and one title to Fractal Mode. John 14:37, 10 April 2021 (EDT)

And Eternity

Just added a jacket design credit to And Eternity Scifibones 16:11, 10 April 2021 (EDT)

Double Exposure

Just added map and map credit to Double Exposure Scifibones 11:54, 11 April 2021 (EDT)


Added pub note and LCCN to Heads Scifibones 14:08, 16 April 2021 (EDT)

Dinosaur Summer

Added pub note and LCCN to Dinosaur Summer Scifibones 15:50, 16 April 2021 (EDT)

City at the End of Time

Added pub notes to City at the End of Time Scifibones 16:33, 16 April 2021 (EDT)

How Did We Find Out About Outer Space? (Isaac Asimov)

I have moved the series "First Fact Book" from the title to the publication for this verified publication. Walker and Scholastic use "How Did We Find Out" and Longman uses "How We Found Out About". ../Doug H 23:26, 19 April 2022 (EDT)

The Fold


I removed the cover artist from our verified. As we do not credit designers, Goretsky gets only a note and not a COVERART credit. Annie (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2023 (EDT)