User talk:Andrewvlcak

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Hybrid Fiction #1

Hello. I've accepted your submission for Hybrid Fiction #1, but had to make quite a few changes.

  • For a magazine (which a webzine is), only the editor or editors of said magazine are entered in the Author field - NOT the actual authors of the stories. Note that I've chosen webzine as format as our definition of webzine is all online contents that cannot be downloaded (eg as pdf, or epub). I don't think Issuu allows downloads, does it?
  • Magazine titles have a title naming convention: Magazine Title, issue no, Date - see here for more information.
  • Price, total no of pages, and page numbering were all missing - I've added these from the contents of the online issue.
  • I've removed H. Mattson's over art credits, as I couldn't find any reference as to whom the actual artist is. Do let me know where that information can be found - I may have missed it.
  • I've updated the publisher to 'Hybrid Fiction', as that appears the name of the 'company' that publishes this webzine (instead of the name of the editor)
  • I've updated the title of the EDITOR record to Hybrid Fiction - 2020, as that will be used to bundle all issues of the year.

The result is here. Have a look and tell me if you like it this way.

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Do note that entering data into the ISFDB needs some learning. Magazines are generally more complicated than straightforward novels. If you wish to continue to contribute, have a look at the help pages listed above in the Welcome message. Most everything can be found there for editing our DB. And, if you need help, do not hesitate to go to the Community Portal, Help Desk, or the other forums on this Wiki. There are friendly Moderators available that are more than willing to help out new editors. Again Welcome! MagicUnk 16:35, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

Thank you! Looks great. Sorry about the mistakes, seems there is indeed a learning curve for me :-) I am not sure I am responding to your message correctly either but hopefully you are seeing this.

I was able to download issues from Issuu as PDF. I saw H. Mattson was the art director on the website and assumed that meant they do the covers as well as the illustrations for the stories? I agree it is not clear. I could not find attribution to anyone else.

I do hope to continue contributing. Perhaps I will start with the other issues of this zine, as hopefully I should be able to do that more correctly now that I have your example... Andrewvlcak 17:53, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

Hi, and welcome! It seems somewhat unusual for a webzine to be priced; usually there is free access (or maybe you have to sign up). For an ebook, on the other hand, a price is usual. Maybe it is really the latter?
In any case I have transferred the page count to the notes, since we record pages only for printed matter. Thanks, Stonecreek 23:32, 5 May 2020 (EDT)
Yes, Christian is right. My bad. If it can be downloaded as pdf, it should be recorded as an ebook - and for ebooks we typically do not record the number of pages as for a lot of ebooks (especially the reader ones) that is rather meaningless. Will you update the format yourself? And let me know if you need assistance uploading the cover. Regards, MagicUnk 02:30, 6 May 2020 (EDT)
Great, it looks like you can see my responses! I am not sure of the distinction between a webzine and an ebook. On the website they offer certain stories from each issue for free, but the rest of the stories require purchase of the issue. I updated the format to ebook and believe I have uploaded the cover image. I also noticed 2 illustrations in the first issue ('Eddie's Dead' and 'Darker') are currently listed as short stories - should these be removed from the listing? Andrewvlcak 11:35, 6 May 2020 (EDT)
Thanks for your answer! An ebook is a publication you can purchase and download on you reader or your computer, a webzine is a 'magazine' presented only on a website.
And there's no need to delete the titles: if you edit a publication you can alter the type of content (SHORTFICTION to INTERIORART) via the dropdown utility - provided the publication in question is the only publication that has published it so far (white fields): this seems to be the case here, just be sure to delete the 'short story' length, which wouldn't be meaningful for INTERIORART. (If a content title is part of more than one publication, you have to edit the title itself). Hope that helps. Stonecreek 11:44, 6 May 2020 (EDT)
As others have already said, welcome to the project! For future reference, the Project Scope section of the Wiki page ISFDB:Policy defines various bibliographic terms used by the ISFDB. It also describes what should be included and what should be excluded when entering data. (Please note that the language is deliberately very precise, so it can be a little awkward.) We also have a Help menu. Finally, you may have noticed blue question marks displayed next to each field name when editing or entering records. If you hover your mouse over them, they will provide context-sensitive help. Ahasuerus 14:47, 6 May 2020 (EDT)
Really appreciate all the help! I have fixed the interior art designations and have submitted a listing for issue 2. Andrewvlcak 23:08, 7 May 2020 (EDT)

Hybrid Fiction, #2, March 2020

Hello,

A few questions and changes on this one:

  • You had it as Hybrid Fiction, #1, March 2020 so I fixed it to say #2 :)
  • You do not need to add the "Hybrid Fiction - 2020" record manually. When you create a new magazine, it will automatically create an EDITOR record - and this record then is updated to become "Hybrid Fiction - 2020". Just add the contents :) I removed the one you added and cleaned that up
  • "As" is always capitalized so I fixed that.
  • Is #2 printed somewhere on the magazine. I see the March 2020 part but not the #2? If not, then it goes only in the notes and not in the title.
  • Same question for the editors - are both their names in the magazine? I do not see any and in this case we credit a bit differently (we credit to uncredited and then variant for the real name of the editor). I can fix that if you can confirm that for me.
  • Do you know if "After the Warding" is a story or a novel?

The result (for now) is here. Do not hesitate to ask any questions you may have. Annie 13:54, 8 May 2020 (EDT)

Whoops, thank you! You are correct, #2 is not printed in the magazine. The editors don't seem to be listed in the actual issue either. They are both credited on the website: https://www.hybridfiction.net/about-us (actually H. Mattson is the publisher and Dakota Caulder is the editor-in-chief - I may have confused that when entering the first issue...) "After the Warding" is a novella, I believe. Andrewvlcak 01:02, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
Is the same valid for issue #1 (noone credited in the magazine and only Dakota Caulder credited on the site as editor)? And is "#1" printed in the magazine on the first one? I will fix both issues so you can see how they should look like once I am sure what I am fixing :)
No worries - magazines can be tricky :) Annie 01:07, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
Yes issue #1 is the same in terms of Dakota Caulder. And #1 is not printed on the first issue either. I appreciate it! Andrewvlcak 11:45, 12 May 2020 (EDT)
I will sort these out later today and will post back when done. Thanks for the update. Annie 12:33, 12 May 2020 (EDT)
Sorry for the delay - fixed as discussed. It also seems like Dakota Caulder is the only editor on the April issue as well so I fixed that one as well. If that was incorrect, let me me know and I will undo it. Annie 00:16, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

Cossmass Infinities Magazine, Issue 2

Putting the list price is absolutely correct :) A few small changes post-approval.

  • The word Magazine is nowhere on the title page and/or on the cover :) So it does not make it to the title. I know you checked the previous one (and it was there - I fixed that one as well) - welcome to editing - sometimes we notice things later :)
  • I added | page numbers to keep the stories ordered. You can see how it is done - always a good idea when adding ebooks :)
  • I also added the editorial and the cover. :)
  • A small capitalization issue: "and", "or", "the", "a", "an", "for", "of", "in", "on", "by", "at", "from", "with", and "to" don't get capitalized unless they are the first word of a title or a subtitle (or the author meant them to be).

The result is here. Annie 19:48, 19 May 2020 (EDT)

Good to know, will keep those in mind for the next one! Andrewvlcak 23:21, 19 May 2020 (EDT)

Fusion Fragment, Issue #1: May 2020

Great work on this one. Some small changes:

  • I moved the site address and the ISSN from to the series page (now that it is created post approval): here. If we ever get a direct link to Issue 1, that will go on the pub level web site :)
  • "like" and "her" needed capitalization. :)
  • The Price - the note for "select your own price" belong in the real note and I decided not to put a price - the $ marks it as a US publication; there is no real price though.
  • The title needed a comma "Magazine Name, Issue information". That allows the grid to be built properly (and is the current policy) :)
  • One question - you changed the date of Allfather to 2019-06-00. Are you planning on adding an original publication for it with this date?

The result is here. Thanks! Annie 00:07, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

It's mentioned in the issue that Allfather is a reprint from June 2019 but I wasn't able to hunt down the original publication Andrewvlcak 21:16, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
Amazon says June 2018. Can you look at Look Inside and compare the start of the story with what is in the issue - even though you did not verify the issue, it sounds like you have access to it? It sounds like it but a verification never hurts anything. :) If it is indeed the same, I will add the chapbook and adjust the date.
In such cases, add a note to the publication explaining that the date comes from the magazine but the original publication is unknown. Otherwise this date will be reset during our dates discrepancy cleanups :( Annie 21:25, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
Indeed it is the same story! However upon second look at the issue I did find a note where the story was previously published: ""Allfather" originally published in A Childe's Garden of Whispers in June 2019. Reprinted with permission." which seems to be referring to this short story collection: https://www.amazon.com/Childes-Garden-Whispers-Donnell-Arbuckle-ebook/dp/B07SL28P9K . I am not sure what the procedure would be in this case as it appears from your Amazon link the story was actually originally published in June 2018?
I confess that I thought primary verification was only for the editors/publishers of the magazine... having carefully read the verification info page I will now go and verify several magazine issues that I have access to :-) Andrewvlcak 21:35, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
I (or you) can add both the collection and the chapbook and we add the note into the magazine notes that it gives the original date as 2019 apparently by mistake or language to that effect. Welcome to short stories cataloging - it is like archeology sometimes except more convoluted. :)
Do you want to try adding them?
Yep - primary verification (Permanent) means: "I have the book/issue; if someone has questions, I will be able (in some reasonable time after I see the request) to look up the answer". Don't get too hanged up on the reasonable time - we all have books in storage and so on:) But you get the idea.
Transient Primary means "I have access now but won't in the future" - libraries, someone else's library, a loan from a friend. Both signify that someone had eyes (and fingertips) on the actual issue/book - so it is less likely to contain errors from secondary sources. Hope that makes sense. Annie 21:44, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
By the way - if you look in the Look Inside of the ebook of the collection, the author says inside that the story was previously self-published. Maybe they just do not count that as publishing in the magazine (who knows). Or miss-typed the year. :) All we can is to document what it says and what the reality is. Annie 21:49, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
I see so I would add both the Amazon books as separate entries and then simply add a note to the Fusion Fragment entry explaining the situation? Would I somehow have to link the Fusion Fragment entry to the Amazon book entries as well? I have not done anything but magazines so far but I'm willing to give it a go. Probably next time I login. The single story would be added as a New Chapbook? And the collection of short stories added as a New Collection? Andrewvlcak 22:01, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
Yes on all of those. There will be one more step after you add everything - merging the stories records for this story. Alternatively, you can import it later - add the collection/chapbook without the story, then after approval import the story. As it is only one story, it does not really matter (merge or import is still one step) so just add all the stories this tim, then we can merge. One thing about the collection - check the dates of the ebook and the paperback and add the one that is earlier first. Once approved, you can clone for the other format. If you do it the other way around, we will need to adjust the dates. :)
I will leave it to you then - just post here or on my page if you need any assistance. Magazines are the hardest type of entries so you will be fine. Some of the other stories in the collection also have self-published originals - if you want to track them down as well. If not, let's clear this story :) Annie 22:26, 29 May 2020 (EDT)
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