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<p>Willem H.: /* Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2 */</p>
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<div>See [[User talk:Willem H./Archive]] for older discussions.<br />
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
<br />
By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
<br />
You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
<br />
On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
<br />
Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
<br />
I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
<br />
Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
<br />
Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first (1974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::::I agree, the Community Portal would be a better place. I was thinking about (a standard for) "Publisher / Imprint" vs "Publication series", but this is only about Dell and Laurel-Leaf. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:17, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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:Good question. In my edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37693 The Crystal Ship], the pagenumber of the story (151) is for it's titlepage (it has the title, name of the author and a short essay about Vonda McIntyre). Page 152 is blank, and the text of "Screwtop" begins on page 153. The final page of the story is 208. The number in the pages field normally is for the last printed pagenumber in the book, and if not should be explained in the notefield. In this book they're the same. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:09, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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That is a huge help. Many thanks for the check, and for the explanation for the future! {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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== Michaelmas ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5749051; It's by Algis J. Budrys. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:16, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Willem<br />
:I've checked my copy and I'm going to proceed with this change. Let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks Ron. My copy is the same. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:05, 23 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== A Brand New World ==<br />
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You PV'd this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253 I just sent in the following: Submitting web page 1 (blog article) & Goodreads external ID for this edition. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 22:31, 23 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks! Already approved I see. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:21, 24 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== One Million Tomorrows ==<br />
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You PV'd the following edition: https://isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25003 I sent this in to moderators: Submitting two web pages (Wikipedia, blog retrospective review) & Goodreads external ID. I met Bob in 1982 while I was living in London. Nice guy. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 07:48, 26 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== <b>Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2</b> ==<br />
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● Can you please check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282001 Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2]? According to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?968140 Paperback Fantastic, Volume 1: Science Fiction] the cover of <i>The Ballad of Beta-2</i> is by Jack Gaughan, who is credited with <i> Alpha Yes, Terra No!</i> instead. Before permanent credit is assigned, I would like to know. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 00:03, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
: The credit is as stated on the titlepages (Ed Valigursky for The Ballad of Beta-2 and Jack Gaughan for Alpha Yes, Terra No!). None of the covers is signed or in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]. Jane Frank credits Valigursky for The Ballad of Beta-2 [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301564 here]. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:28, 30 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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User talk:Willem H.
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
<br />
I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
<br />
I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
<br />
Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
<br />
Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
<br />
Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first (1974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::::I agree, the Community Portal would be a better place. I was thinking about (a standard for) "Publisher / Imprint" vs "Publication series", but this is only about Dell and Laurel-Leaf. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:17, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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:Good question. In my edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37693 The Crystal Ship], the pagenumber of the story (151) is for it's titlepage (it has the title, name of the author and a short essay about Vonda McIntyre). Page 152 is blank, and the text of "Screwtop" begins on page 153. The final page of the story is 208. The number in the pages field normally is for the last printed pagenumber in the book, and if not should be explained in the notefield. In this book they're the same. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:09, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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That is a huge help. Many thanks for the check, and for the explanation for the future! {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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== Michaelmas ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5749051; It's by Algis J. Budrys. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:16, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Willem<br />
:I've checked my copy and I'm going to proceed with this change. Let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks Ron. My copy is the same. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:05, 23 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== A Brand New World ==<br />
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You PV'd this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253 I just sent in the following: Submitting web page 1 (blog article) & Goodreads external ID for this edition. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 22:31, 23 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks! Already approved I see. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:21, 24 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=669702
User talk:Willem H.
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
<br />
You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first (1974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::::I agree, the Community Portal would be a better place. I was thinking about (a standard for) "Publisher / Imprint" vs "Publication series", but this is only about Dell and Laurel-Leaf. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:17, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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:Good question. In my edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37693 The Crystal Ship], the pagenumber of the story (151) is for it's titlepage (it has the title, name of the author and a short essay about Vonda McIntyre). Page 152 is blank, and the text of "Screwtop" begins on page 153. The final page of the story is 208. The number in the pages field normally is for the last printed pagenumber in the book, and if not should be explained in the notefield. In this book they're the same. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:09, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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That is a huge help. Many thanks for the check, and for the explanation for the future!<br />
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== Michaelmas ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5749051; It's by Algis J. Budrys. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:16, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Willem<br />
:I've checked my copy and I'm going to proceed with this change. Let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks Ron. My copy is the same. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:05, 23 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== A Brand New World ==<br />
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You PV'd this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253 I just sent in the following: Submitting web page 1 (blog article) & Goodreads external ID for this edition. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 22:31, 23 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks! Already approved I see. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:21, 24 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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User talk:Willem H.
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
<br />
Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
<br />
You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first (1974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::::I agree, the Community Portal would be a better place. I was thinking about (a standard for) "Publisher / Imprint" vs "Publication series", but this is only about Dell and Laurel-Leaf. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:17, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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:Good question. In my edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37693 The Crystal Ship], the pagenumber of the story (151) is for it's titlepage (it has the title, name of the author and a short essay about Vonda McIntyre). Page 152 is blank, and the text of "Screwtop" begins on page 153. The final page of the story is 208. The number in the pages field normally is for the last printed pagenumber in the book, and if not should be explained in the notefield. In this book they're the same. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:09, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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That is a huge help. Many thanks for the check, and for the explanation for the future!<br />
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== Michaelmas ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5749051; It's by Algis J. Budrys. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:16, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Willem<br />
:I've checked my copy and I'm going to proceed with this change. Let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 22 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks Ron. My copy is the same. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:05, 23 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:SCNCFCTNKR2006.jpg&diff=669425
File:SCNCFCTNKR2006.jpg
2023-08-19T20:04:11Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Science fiction 2006 kort
|Edition=Bergboek 2006 tp
|Pub=SCNCFCTNKR2006
|Publisher=Bergboek
|Artist=Molly Barr
|ArtistId=14557
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Science fiction 2006 kort<br />
|Edition=Bergboek 2006 tp<br />
|Pub=SCNCFCTNKR2006<br />
|Publisher=Bergboek<br />
|Artist=Molly Barr<br />
|ArtistId=14557<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:PJPRHTBSMN1956.jpg&diff=669352
File:PJPRHTBSMN1956.jpg
2023-08-18T19:35:26Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Pijper, het bosmannetje
|Edition=Van Goor 1956 hc
|Pub=PJPRHTBSMN1956
|Publisher=Van Goor
|Artist=Phiny Dick
|ArtistId=367693
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
<hr />
<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Pijper, het bosmannetje<br />
|Edition=Van Goor 1956 hc<br />
|Pub=PJPRHTBSMN1956<br />
|Publisher=Van Goor<br />
|Artist=Phiny Dick<br />
|ArtistId=367693<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:PJPRHTBSMN1940.jpg&diff=669348
File:PJPRHTBSMN1940.jpg
2023-08-18T19:27:06Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Pijper, het bosmannetje
|Edition=Van Goor 1940 hc
|Pub=PJPRHTBSMN1940
|Publisher=Van Goor
|Artist=Phiny Dick
|ArtistId=367693
|Source=Copied from Fandata by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Pijper, het bosmannetje<br />
|Edition=Van Goor 1940 hc<br />
|Pub=PJPRHTBSMN1940<br />
|Publisher=Van Goor<br />
|Artist=Phiny Dick<br />
|ArtistId=367693<br />
|Source=Copied from Fandata by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:MRDMNKNBCX1954.jpg&diff=669291
File:MRDMNKNBCX1954.jpg
2023-08-17T20:03:02Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Moordmaniak
|Edition=De Combinatie 1954 hc
|Pub=MRDMNKNBCX1954
|Publisher=De Combinatie
|Artist=Unknown
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Moordmaniak<br />
|Edition=De Combinatie 1954 hc<br />
|Pub=MRDMNKNBCX1954<br />
|Publisher=De Combinatie<br />
|Artist=Unknown<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Umm10&diff=669289
User talk:Umm10
2023-08-17T19:21:42Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Your question about "The Crystal Ship" */ new section</p>
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== Your question about "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hello Umm10, and welcome again. We try to keep discussions in one place to avoid having them scattered all over the place, so I (tried to) answer your question [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Willem_H.#Page_numbers_for_.22Screwtop.22_in_first_edition_of_.22The_Crystal_Ship.22 here]. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:21, 17 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
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https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=669288
User talk:Willem H.
2023-08-17T19:17:14Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Galactic Rejects */</p>
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
<br />
There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
<br />
Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
<br />
Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
<br />
Hi.<br />
<br />
I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
<br />
I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
<br />
I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
<br />
"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
<br />
While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
<br />
ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
<br />
If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
<br />
Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
<br />
Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
<br />
Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
<br />
I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem. <br />
<br />
I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
<br />
I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
<br />
I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
<br />
I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
<br />
I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
<br />
Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
<br />
::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
<br />
In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
<br />
Hello Willem,<br />
<br />
I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
<br />
On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
<br />
I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
<br />
Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
<br />
Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
<br />
:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
<br />
Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
<br />
Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Radix ==<br />
<br />
As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
<br><br />
<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
<br />
Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
<br />
Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
<br><br />
<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
<br><br />
<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Space Relations full title ==<br />
<br />
Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first (1974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::::I agree, the Community Portal would be a better place. I was thinking about (a standard for) "Publisher / Imprint" vs "Publication series", but this is only about Dell and Laurel-Leaf. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:17, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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:Good question. In my edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37693 The Crystal Ship], the pagenumber of the story (151) is for it's titlepage (it has the title, name of the author and a short essay about Vonda McIntyre). Page 152 is blank, and the text of "Screwtop" begins on page 153. The final page of the story is 208. The number in the pages field normally is for the last printed pagenumber in the book, and if not should be explained in the notefield. In this book they're the same. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:09, 17 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
<br />
As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
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I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first (1974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. {{unsigned|Umm10}}<br />
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:Good question. In my edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37693 The Crystal Ship], the pagenumber of the story (151) is for it's titlepage (it has the title, name of the author and a short essay about Vonda McIntyre). Page 152 is blank, and the text of "Screwtop" begins on page 153. The final page of the story is 208. The number in the pages field normally is for the last printed pagenumber in the book, and if not should be explained in the notefield. In this book they're the same. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:09, 17 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Galactic_Rejects; Other PV agrees about the confusion but decided to change publisher. Since so many different people have PV books under all those publishers/series over the years, some of them gone or dead, it would probably be quite a chore tracking them down and agreeing on which is correct for each book. Maybe someone will eventually decide to do that but for now it is a bit confusing to have 2 different publishers for the same book so I'll ask other PV what they think about that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: A couple of things. First, I am one of the primary verifiers on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?244349 the first 91974) printing] while [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015 Willem's primary verified pub] is a second (1976) printing, so there are two separate publication records involved.<br />
::: Re: possibly consolidating identical publisher records, let me list the ones that I have found so far:<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?34 Dell], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1894 Laurel-Leaf Library] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?3142 Dell Laurel]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?96 Dell Laurel-Leaf], which has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?4647 Laurel-Leaf Science Fiction] set up as a publication series<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?22957 Dell Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?1248 Laurel-Leaf]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?54311 Laurel-Leaf Library]<br />
:::* [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?51881 Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell]<br />
::: In addition, the covers of some of our pubs say "Laurel-Leaf Fantasy", which needs to be set up as another publication series. Presumably our software didn't support publication series back when these publication records were created.<br />
::: Re: the best place to discuss this mess of publishers and publication series, I am thinking that the Community Portal would be better than the Rules and Standards page. We are not suggesting a change to the data entry standards; we are just trying to come up with the best way to apply existing standards in this situation. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:09, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Book of Ty(r)ael ==<br />
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Hello Willem! In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21] there's (on p. 69) "The Book of Tyael 1" and "The Book of Tyrael 2" to be found. Is it that the spelling for both should enclose either Tyael or Tyrael? (I came across that upon varianting / pseudonyming Nico Delort to Nicolas Delort). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 01:44, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! It's 'Tyrael' for all (3) illustrations. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Page numbers for "Screwtop" in first edition of "The Crystal Ship" ==<br />
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Hi there - I'm hoping you can help me check the page numbers for Vonda N. McIntyre's short story "Screwtop" in the first edition of Robert Silverberg's anthology ''The Crystal Ship''. <br />
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I can see the first page on the database entry, and while the entry does give length of the book, that doesn't take into account any extra matter at the back of the book. <br />
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Grateful thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give.</div>
Willem H.
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|Artist=Gracia Stein<br />
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Willem H.
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|Edition=Querido 1946 hc<br />
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|Publisher=Querido<br />
|Artist=Unknown<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Chris J]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=669234
User talk:Willem H.
2023-08-16T18:30:58Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Galactic Rejects */</p>
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::: Changes seem ok to me. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 15:31, 14 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Galactic Rejects ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309015; Should publisher be Dell Laurel-Leaf? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Maybe. I would prefer to have 'Laurel-Leaf Library' as a publication series for this book (and others). If we consider Laurel-Leaf as an imprint of Dell, shouldn't it be 'Dell / Laurel-Leaf'? Also, at the moment we have publishers 'Laurel-Leaf Library', 'Laurel-Leaf Library / Dell', 'Dell Laurel' and 'Dell Laurel-Leaf Library', so I'm not going to change anything now. Feel free to start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669198
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-15T19:50:20Z
<p>Willem H.: /* A-E */</p>
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<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
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== Single artist collections ==<br />
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=== A-E ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|- <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
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| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Boege, Uli<br />
| Elsewhere<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
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| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
| <br />
| Dutch, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== F-J ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498214 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Third Series]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
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| German<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
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| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
| <br />
| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Wonders<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
|<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
|<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|}<br />
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=== S-Z ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De fantastische kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak art fantastique: album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak art fantastique: album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des unwirklichen] ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267122 Boris: Book Two]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3d magic]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
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| English, Spanish, German, French<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
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| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De avonturen van Happer, de eend die gaten eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, monsters, nachtmerries, dagdromen]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
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| English, Latin<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
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== Various artists ==<br />
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=== Series ===<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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| width=40% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=30% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
| uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476997 Space Wars: Worlds and Weapons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290680 Special Effects: Creating Movie Magic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13592 Finch, Christopher]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480820 Spuren ins All: Science Fiction - Das seltsame Fremde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208190 Bruckner, Winfried]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308552 The Studio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21510 Windsor-Smith, Barry] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10372 Wrightson, Bernie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836438 Techniques of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123674 Robertson, Bruce]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278229 Terror! A History of Horror Illustrations from the Pulp Magazines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6369 Haining, Peter]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267090 Tomorrow and Beyond: Masterpieces of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523587 Women of Wonder: Celebrating Women Creators of Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:VCNDBLDTHC2003.jpg&diff=669197
File:VCNDBLDTHC2003.jpg
2023-08-15T19:31:38Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Vic and Blood: The Continuing Adventures of a Boy and His Dog
|Edition=ibooks 2003 tp
|Pub=VCNDBLDTHC2003
|Publisher=ibooks
|Artist=Richard Corben
|ArtistId=6193
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
<hr />
<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Vic and Blood: The Continuing Adventures of a Boy and His Dog<br />
|Edition=ibooks 2003 tp<br />
|Pub=VCNDBLDTHC2003<br />
|Publisher=ibooks<br />
|Artist=Richard Corben<br />
|ArtistId=6193<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669193
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-15T19:13:29Z
<p>Willem H.: /* F-J */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
<br />
== Single artist collections ==<br />
<br />
=== A-E ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|- <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Boege, Uli<br />
| Elsewhere<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
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| French<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
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| Dutch, English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|}<br />
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{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Fastner & Larson (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498214 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Third Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
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| German<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
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| English<br />
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| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
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| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| Wonders<br />
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| Spanish, English, German<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
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| German<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
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|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
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| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
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|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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|}<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De fantastische kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak art fantastique: album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak art fantastique: album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des unwirklichen] ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267122 Boris: Book Two]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3d magic]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English, Spanish, German, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De avonturen van Happer, de eend die gaten eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, monsters, nachtmerries, dagdromen]<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
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| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
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| English, Latin<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
| English<br />
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|}<br />
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== Various artists ==<br />
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=== Series ===<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== A-Z ===<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
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| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
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| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
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| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476997 Space Wars: Worlds and Weapons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290680 Special Effects: Creating Movie Magic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13592 Finch, Christopher]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480820 Spuren ins All: Science Fiction - Das seltsame Fremde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208190 Bruckner, Winfried]<br />
| German<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308552 The Studio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21510 Windsor-Smith, Barry] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10372 Wrightson, Bernie]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836438 Techniques of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123674 Robertson, Bruce]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278229 Terror! A History of Horror Illustrations from the Pulp Magazines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6369 Haining, Peter]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267090 Tomorrow and Beyond: Masterpieces of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523587 Women of Wonder: Celebrating Women Creators of Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
| English<br />
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|}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669171
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-15T08:54:47Z
<p>Willem H.: /* K-R */</p>
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<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
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== Single artist collections ==<br />
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=== A-E ===<br />
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|- <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
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| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Boege, Uli<br />
| Elsewhere<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
| <br />
| Dutch, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== F-J ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Fastner & Larson (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
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| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
| <br />
| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Wonders<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
|<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
|<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== S-Z ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De fantastische kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak art fantastique: album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak art fantastique: album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des unwirklichen] ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3d magic]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De avonturen van Happer, de eend die gaten eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, monsters, nachtmerries, dagdromen]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
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== Various artists ==<br />
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=== Series ===<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=85%<br />
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| width=30% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
| uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476997 Space Wars: Worlds and Weapons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290680 Special Effects: Creating Movie Magic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13592 Finch, Christopher]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480820 Spuren ins All: Science Fiction - Das seltsame Fremde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208190 Bruckner, Winfried]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308552 The Studio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21510 Windsor-Smith, Barry] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10372 Wrightson, Bernie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836438 Techniques of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123674 Robertson, Bruce]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278229 Terror! A History of Horror Illustrations from the Pulp Magazines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6369 Haining, Peter]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267090 Tomorrow and Beyond: Masterpieces of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523587 Women of Wonder: Celebrating Women Creators of Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669170
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-15T08:44:47Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Series */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
<br />
== Single artist collections ==<br />
<br />
=== A-E ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
<br />
|- <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Boege, Uli<br />
| Elsewhere<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
| <br />
| Dutch, English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== F-J ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Fastner & Larson (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498214 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Third Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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=== K-R ===<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
| <br />
| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Wonders<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
|<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
|<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
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| German, English<br />
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|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De fantastische kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak art fantastique: album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak art fantastique: album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des unwirklichen] ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267122 Boris: Book Two]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3d magic]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English, Spanish, German, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De avonturen van Happer, de eend die gaten eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, monsters, nachtmerries, dagdromen]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
| <br />
| English, Latin<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
| English<br />
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|}<br />
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== Various artists ==<br />
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=== Series ===<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== A-Z ===<br />
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| width=30% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
| uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476997 Space Wars: Worlds and Weapons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290680 Special Effects: Creating Movie Magic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13592 Finch, Christopher]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480820 Spuren ins All: Science Fiction - Das seltsame Fremde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208190 Bruckner, Winfried]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308552 The Studio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21510 Windsor-Smith, Barry] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10372 Wrightson, Bernie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836438 Techniques of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123674 Robertson, Bruce]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278229 Terror! A History of Horror Illustrations from the Pulp Magazines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6369 Haining, Peter]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267090 Tomorrow and Beyond: Masterpieces of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523587 Women of Wonder: Celebrating Women Creators of Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669156
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-14T20:10:48Z
<p>Willem H.: /* S-Z */</p>
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<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
<br />
== Single artist collections ==<br />
<br />
=== A-E ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|- <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
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| Boege, Uli<br />
| Elsewhere<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
| <br />
| Dutch, English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Fastner & Larson (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498214 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Third Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
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| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
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| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| Wonders<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
|<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
|<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|}<br />
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=== S-Z ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De fantastische kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak art fantastique: album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak art fantastique: album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des unwirklichen] ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267122 Boris: Book Two]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3d magic]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
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| English, Spanish, German, French<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De avonturen van Happer, de eend die gaten eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, monsters, nachtmerries, dagdromen]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
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| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
| English<br />
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== Various artists ==<br />
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=== Series ===<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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|<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=85%<br />
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| width=30% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
| uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476997 Space Wars: Worlds and Weapons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290680 Special Effects: Creating Movie Magic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13592 Finch, Christopher]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480820 Spuren ins All: Science Fiction - Das seltsame Fremde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208190 Bruckner, Winfried]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308552 The Studio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21510 Windsor-Smith, Barry] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10372 Wrightson, Bernie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836438 Techniques of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123674 Robertson, Bruce]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278229 Terror! A History of Horror Illustrations from the Pulp Magazines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6369 Haining, Peter]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267090 Tomorrow and Beyond: Masterpieces of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523587 Women of Wonder: Celebrating Women Creators of Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669153
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-14T20:02:55Z
<p>Willem H.: /* S-Z */</p>
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<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
<br />
== Single artist collections ==<br />
<br />
=== A-E ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|- <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Boege, Uli<br />
| Elsewhere<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
| <br />
| Dutch, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== F-J ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Fastner & Larson (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498214 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Third Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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=== K-R ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
| <br />
| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Wonders<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
|<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
|<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|}<br />
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=== S-Z ===<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De Fantastische Kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo Schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak Art Fantastique: Album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak Art Fantastique: Album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des Unwirklichen] ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267122 Boris: Book Two]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3D Magic]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English, Spanish, German, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De Avonturen van Happer, de Eend die Gaten Eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, Monsters, Nachtmerries, Dagdromen]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
| <br />
| English, Latin<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Various artists ==<br />
<br />
=== Series ===<br />
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| width=35% | '''Title'''<br />
| width=25% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=10% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
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| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
| uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476997 Space Wars: Worlds and Weapons]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290680 Special Effects: Creating Movie Magic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13592 Finch, Christopher]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480820 Spuren ins All: Science Fiction - Das seltsame Fremde]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208190 Bruckner, Winfried]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308552 The Studio]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21510 Windsor-Smith, Barry] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10372 Wrightson, Bernie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836438 Techniques of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123674 Robertson, Bruce]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278229 Terror! A History of Horror Illustrations from the Pulp Magazines]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6369 Haining, Peter]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267090 Tomorrow and Beyond: Masterpieces of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523587 Women of Wonder: Celebrating Women Creators of Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Willem_H./Art&diff=669151
User:Willem H./Art
2023-08-14T19:54:12Z
<p>Willem H.: /* A-Z */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''My art collection.'''<br />
<br />
== Single artist collections ==<br />
<br />
=== A-E ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|- <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56901 Achilleos, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368911 Amazona]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368912 Beauty and the Beast]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368913 Medusa]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459489 Miss Universe en het Beest] (Beauty and the Beast)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?165939 Anders, Lee]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361105 Sirens]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?71 Barker, Clive]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326629 Visions of Heaven and Hell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1818 Barlowe, Wayne]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233453 The Alien Life of Wayne Barlowe]<br />
|<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267919 Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13238 Barr, George]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254831 Upon the Winds of Yesterday and Other Explorations]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26123 Barr, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459532 The Beast Within: The Art of Ken Barr]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459641 Fairy: The Art of Jasmine Becket-Griffith]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459808 The Art of Julie Bell] (Soft as Steel)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16354 Hard Curves: The Fantasy Art of Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265628 The Julie Bell Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?22975 Berkey, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130761 The Art of John Berkey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263083 John Berkey, Painted Space]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?609 Bok, Hannes]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264114 Beauty and the Beasts: The Art of Hannes Bok]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401109 Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?91809 Wrzos, Joseph]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3005 Bolton, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460286 The Art of John Bolton]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26314 Bosch, Jeroen]<br />
| Meesters der Schilderkunst: Jeroen Bosch<br />
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| The Garden of Earthly Delights<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1039 Beagle, Peter S.]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201663 Brereton, Dan]<br />
| Enchantress: The Illustrative Art of Dan Brereton<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8569 Brom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427258 The Art of Brom]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119494 Bruck, Johnny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409537 Johnny Bruck: Perry Rhodan-Illustrator]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149605 Gerigk, Frank G.]<br />
| German<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1834 Brundage, Margaret]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419157 The Alluring Art of Margaret Brundage: Queen of the Pulp Pin-Up Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?103749 Brunner, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?341216 Eyes of Light: Fantasy Drawings of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239513 Mythos: The Fantasy Art Realms of Frank Brunner]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1809 Burns, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186 The Art of Jim Burns: Hyperluminal]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334168 Imago]<br />
| <br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382453 JB]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?228033 Lightship]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479962 Planet Story]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480691 De Reis van de Grospo] (Planet Story)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480 Transluminal: The Paintings of Jim Burns]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26410 Caza, Philippe]<br />
| Caza<br />
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| French<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25886 Cabral, Ciruelo]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?393277 The Book of the Dragon]<br />
| <br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862331 Ciruelo]<br />
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| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8807 Caldwell, Clyde]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510853 The Art of Clyde Caldwell]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?9992 Cartier, Edd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253534 Edd Cartier: The Known and the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206115 Cartier, Dean]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25688 Chichoni, Óscar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439884 Mekanika]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226410 Cleavenger, Dorian]<br />
| Art Fantastix Portfolio #1: Dorian Cleavenger<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
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| German<br />
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| The Art of Dorian Cleavenger (Fantasy Books)<br />
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| English<br />
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| The New Works & Visions of Dorian Cleavenger<br />
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| German, English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25775 Cobb, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479926 Colorvision]<br />
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| "Mah Fellow Americans"<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?177953 Compiet, Iris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810101 The Dark Crystal Bestiary: A Definitive Guide to the Creatures of Thara]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182221 Cesare, Adam]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6193 Corben, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862553 Richard Corben's Art Book Volume 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862558 Vols fantastiques] (Flights into Fantasy)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107097 Bharucha, Fershid]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24026 Coye, Lee Brown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253248 Arts Unknown: The Life & Art of Lee Brown Coye]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25614 Craft, Kinuko Y.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346457 Drawings & Paintings]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260657 Dragon's Dream]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208115 Shields, Amanda]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479961 Magnetic Storm]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?888993 Views] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479904 3rd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309379 2nd publication]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37135 De Berardinis, Olivia]<br />
| The Art of Olivia II (Second Slice: The Art of Olivia)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87108 Let Them Eat Cheesecake: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462726 Second Slice: The Art Of Olivia]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37517 Delamare, David]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460729 Mermaids and Magic Shows: The Paintings of David Delamare]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141927 Desimon, Michel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869481 Réalisme symbolique]<br />
| <br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159087 de Vos, Jorg]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485552 Schaduwwerk]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510855 Schaduwwerk II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204865 Di Fate's Catalog of Science Fiction Hardware]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4811 Meacham, Beth]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1070 Eggleton, Bob]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460814 Alien Horizons: The Fantastic Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303591 The Book of Sea Monsters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460815 Dragonhenge]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16013 Greetings From Earth: The Art of Bob Eggleton]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516584 The Stardragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| Eikendal, Ger<br />
| Ger Eikendal<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2125 Elson, Peter] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338398 Parallel Lines: The Science Fiction Illustrations of Peter Elson & Chris Moore ]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?550 Emshwiller, Ed]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?759617 Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307456 Pires, Jesse]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?199053 Emshwiller: Infinity x Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25296 Escher, M.C.]<br />
| Grafiek en Tekeningen<br />
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| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1830 Fabian, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268172 Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268145 More Fantasy by Fabian: The Art of Stephen E. Fabian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19813 Stephen E. Fabian's Ladies & Legends]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25885 Fastner, Steve] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?105993 Larson, Rich]<br />
| The Art of Fastner & Larson<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Fastner & Larson (Fantasy Books)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1084 Finlay, Virgil]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276695 The Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266864 The Second Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267080 The Third Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264066 The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268021 The Fifth Book of Virgil Finlay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268436 The Sixth Book of Virgil Finlay: The Astrology Years]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498213 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Second Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498214 A Portfolio of Illustrations by Virgil Finlay / Third Series]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498215 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of Illustrations]<br />
| <br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?498225 Virgil Finlay...A Portfolio of His Unpublished Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English <br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25649 Flynn, Danny]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468782 Only Visiting This Planet: The Art of Danny Flynn]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2195 Foss, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 21st Century Foss]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1724216 Diary of a Spaceperson]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335223 HC] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388117 TP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347697 Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23166 Hughes, Rian] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?160752 Foss, Imogene]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484030 De Machtige Machines van Chris Foss] (Science Fiction Art)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444875 Captain George's Comic World Number 15: The Frazetta You Don't Know About, A Portfolio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?202943 Henderson, George]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443164 The Sensuous Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395941 The Magic of Frank Frazetta] (Pirate publication)<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794496 Fantastic Paintings of Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933398 Rough Work: Concept Art, Doodles and Sketchbook Drawings]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?589714 The Sensuous Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923007 Frazetta Book Cover Art: Definitive Reference]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214158 Patrick K. Hill]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468948 Icon: A Retrospective by the Grand Master of Fantastic Art, Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14545 Legacy: Selected Drawings & Paintings by Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34866 Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?838996 The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252447 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252448 HC], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442048 2nd printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469879 8th printing]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102990 Frank Frazetta, Book Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14537 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?469880 3rd printing]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252449 Frank Frazetta, Book Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315042 Frank Frazetta, Book Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14544 Frank Frazetta, Book Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2867 Ballantine, Betty]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548 Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124442 Freas, Laura Brodian]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470251 Frank Kelly Freas: The Art of Science Fiction]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252716 A Separate Star]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26024 Frey, Oliver]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470268 The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?206920 Kean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88606 The Goblins of Labyrinth]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3442 Jones, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?482539 The Runes of Elfland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28665 Berk, Ari]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4048 Froud, Brian] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3392 Lee, Alan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257230 Faeries]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?24213 Gallardo, Gervasio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268669 The Fantastic World of Gervasio Gallardo]<br />
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| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23140 Gambino, Fred]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465906 The Art of Fred Gambino - Dark Shepherd]<br />
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| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329616 Ground Zero: The Art of Fred Gambino]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21156 Garland, Linda] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21157 Garland, Roger]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476423 Garlands of Fantasy: The Art of Linda & Roger Garland]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1805 Gaughan, Jack]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?922 Ortiz, Luis]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23091 Giancola, Donato]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324371 Middle-Earth: Visions of a Modern Myth]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21090 Giger, H. R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470597 6 Posters]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485357 HR Giger ARh+]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479902 The Mystery of San Gottardo: Eine Komödie]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470561 WWW HR Giger Com]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?250377 Giménez, Juan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?612646 Overload: The Art of Juan Giménez]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?133043 Griffin, Rick]<br />
| Heart and Torch: Rick Griffin's Transcedence<br />
| Harvey, Doug<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?107748 Griset, Ernest]<br />
| Fantasies of a Victorian Illustrator<br />
| Lambourne, Lionel<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21486 Hardy, David A.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113481 Futures: 50 Years in Space: The Challenge of the Stars]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2124 Moore, Patrick]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150321 Galactic Tours: Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?354 Bob Shaw]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307445 Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8774 Morgan, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21349 Harris, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451917 The Art of John Harris: Beyond the Horizon]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958475 The Art of John Harris: Volume II: Into the Blue]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103200 Mass: The Art of John Harris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21137 Tiner, Ron]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21431 Harrison, Mark]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470612 Mark Harrison's Dreamlands]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224 Tuttle, Lisa]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25676 Hescox, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326809 The Deceiving Eye: The Art of Richard Hescox]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31355 Dannenfelser, Randy M.]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?375 Hickman, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1965604 The Art of Stephen Hickman: Empyrean]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671592 Limited] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558106 HC]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8024 Hildebrandt, Greg] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25736 Hildebrandt, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4812 Summers, Ian]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480888 Greg en Tim Hildebrandt: The Tolkien-Jaren]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141831 Hildebrandt Jr., Gregory]<br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?958488 An ABC of the Work of Hipgnosis: 'Walk Away René']<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4720 Howe, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7127 Jael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25872 Perceptualistics]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?77053 Johannsen, Brad]<br />
| Occupied Spaces - Big O Publishing, Harmony Books<br />
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| English<br />
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| Johfra<br />
| Masterpieces by Johfra, Hessinks Veilingen<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2264 Jones, Jeff]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35347 The Art of Jeffrey Jones]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471343 Jeffrey Jones: A Life in Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108968 Biggers, Cliff]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470962 Yesterday's Lily]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?182131 Jones, Patrick J.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599591 The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869816 Sci-Fi & Fantasy Oil Painting Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26758 Jones, Peter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377491 Solar Wind]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2183 Kaluta, Michael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471761 Echoes: The Drawings of Michael William Kaluta]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5133 Motter, Dean] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263193 Wings of Twilight: The Art of Michael Kaluta]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25833 Kelly, Ken]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862567 The Art of Ken Kelly]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862574 Escape]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27024 Kidby, Paul]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67812 The Art of Discworld]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?155 Pratchett, Terry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2374 Kirby, Josh]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462097 A Cosmic Cornucopia]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?752 Langford, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193409 In the Garden of Unearthly Delights: The Paintings of Josh Kirby]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192089 The Josh Kirby Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23019 Kirk, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316062 Kirk's Works: An Index of the Art of Tim Kirk]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Krenkel, Roy G.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63019 RGK: The Art of Roy G. Krenkel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28284 Klugerman, Barry] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225095 Lassen, André]<br />
| Celtic Dreams<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?421 Maitz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301665 Dreamquests: The Art of Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299609 First Maitz: Selected Works by Don Maitz]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27581 Manzieri, Maurizio]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511657 The Art of Maurizio Manzieri]<br />
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| Italian, French, English, Spanish<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8682 Maroto, Esteban]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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| <br />
| Wonders<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23095 Martiniere, Stephan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438504 Quantum Dreams: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471835 Quantumscapes: The Art of Stephan Martiniere]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438583 Trajectory]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423435 Velocity]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26162 Matthews, Rodney]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484079 The 2nd Rodney Matthews Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326832 Countdown to Millennium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12110 Elric at the End of Time]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140 Moorcock, Michael]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485305 In Search of Forever]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608688 Last Ship Home]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382446 RM]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37498 Mattingly, David B.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35124 Alternate Views, Alternate Universes: The Art of David B. Mattingly]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?141691 Cogswell, Cathleen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27178 Mauro, Tony]<br />
| The Dark Art of Tony Mauro<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26730 McCaig, Iain]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356441 Shadowline: The Art of Iain McCaig]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Miller, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?458870 The Art of Ian Miller]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339138 Green Dog Trumpet and Other Stories]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472147 Secret Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?183094 King, Barry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21368 Miller, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303601 Firebrands: The Heroines of Science Fiction and Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1224 Sargent, Pamela]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26595 Moebius (Giraud, Jean)]<br />
| Chaos en evenwicht<br />
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| Reisen der erinnerung<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21338 Moore, Chris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?237401 Journeyman: The Art of Chris Moore]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1550 Gallagher, Stephen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?36499 Moore, Monte]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365122 Maidens: The Monte Michael Moore Sketchbook Volume One]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472405 The Art of Rowena]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226949 The Fantastic Art of Rowena]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911697 Imagination]<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25251 Morrow, Gray]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472463 Visionary]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?33839 Wheatley, Mark] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207145 Gross, Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Nagel, Patrick<br />
| The Art of Partick Nagel<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10256 Palencar, John Jude]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316418 Origins: The Art of John Jude Palencar]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8808 Parkinson, Keith]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?66340 Kingsgate: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35348 KnightsBridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?731 Paul, Frank R.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329882 Frank R. Paul: Father of Science Fiction Art] (From the Pen of Paul)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420238 Frank R. Paul: The Dean of Science Fiction Illustration]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21566 Weist, Jerry], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?190896 Crain, Glynn], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25937 Pennington, Bruce]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382451 BP]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335220 The Bruce Pennington Portfolio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253233 Eschatus]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311189 Ultraterranium]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23139 Picacio, John]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82495 Cover Story: The Art of John Picacio]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25883 Pollock, Ian]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5613 Brothers of the Head]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?201136 Posada, Drew]<br />
| The Art of Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Drew Posada<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1828 Potter, J.K.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346122 Horripilations: The Art of J. K. Potter]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23660 Neurotica: Images of the Bizarre]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1811 Powers, Richard]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 The Art of Richard Powers]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26528 Punchatz, Don]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?711364 Don Punchatz: A Retrospective]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Ratera, Mike<br />
| The Best of Mike Ratera, Dark Dragon Books <br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4844 Rogers, Mark E.]<br />
| Mark E. Rogers - The Art of Fantasy<br />
| <br />
| German, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Rosinski, Grzegorz<br />
| Rosinski Artbook: Thorgal 40 Jaar<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?374 Royo, Luis]<br />
| III Millennium<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?531373 Conceptions I]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472744 Conceptions II]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472737 Dreams]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558480 Evolution]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767331 Malefic]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472735 1995 TP] / [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869936 2009 HC]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, German, French, English / Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Prohibited Book<br />
| <br />
| Spanish<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869937 Prohibited Book 2]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472752 Prohibited Book 3]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472734 Secrets]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307814 Subversive Beauty]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472738 Visions]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472736 Women]<br />
| <br />
| Spanish, English, German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Zwart Labyrint<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
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|}<br />
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=== S-Z ===<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=90%<br />
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|- align="center"<br />
| width=20% | '''Artist''' <br />
| width=35% | '''Title''' <br />
| width=20% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1827 Saunders, Norman]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309433 Norman Saunders]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?164587 Saunders, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?37244 Seeley, Dave]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?561637 The Art of Dave Seeley]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2188 Segrelles, Vicente]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472773 De Fantastische Kunst van Segrelles] (La Fantasia de Segrelles)<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451547 Zo Schildert Vicente Segrelles]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1815 Shaw, Barclay]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12031 Electric Dreams: The Art of Barclay Shaw]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 Siudmak, Wojtek]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514389 Siudmak Art Fantastique: Album 5]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514387 Siudmak Art Fantastique: Album 6]<br />
| <br />
| French, English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?57151 Skilleter, Andrew]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?445604 Blacklight: The Art of Andrew Skilleter]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?16251 Smith, Kenneth]<br />
| Phantasmagoria<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30102 Sorayama, Hajime]<br />
| Hajime Sorayama<br />
| <br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Pin-Up<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Posterbook Sexy Robots<br />
| <br />
| German, French, English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| Sexy Robot<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| Vibrant Vixens<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| XL-Masterworks Edition<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1822 St. John, J. Allen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473013 The Paintings of J. Allen St. John: Grand Master of Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21223 Korshak, Stephen D.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J.David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112252 Stevens, Dave]<br />
| Brush With Passion: The Art & Life of Dave Stevens<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8278 Stout, William]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267791 The Dinosaurs]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21416 Service, William]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26038 Struzan, Drew]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473254 The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1353 Sweet, Darrell K.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258100 Beyond Fantasy: The Art of Darrell K. Sweet]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25860 Targete, Jean Pierre]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326855 Illumina: The Art of J. P. Targete]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?118968 Ward, Jean Marie]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1879 Thole, Karel]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382040 Visionen des Unwirklichen] ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1409143 Manuale dell'ignoto])<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112409 Tikulin, Tomislav]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?532649 The Art of Tomislav Tikulin]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?48741 Todd, Justin]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405146 The Magical Paintings of Justin Todd]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?253062 Mike Dempsey]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473263 Boris: Volume 1]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207325 Feldman, Mark A.] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207326 Taylor, John A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267122 Boris: Book Two]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483827 Boris: Fantasy & Space Poster Book]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1253152 The Boris Vallejo Portfolio]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346124 1st printing], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473555 3rd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481355 Boris Vallejo's 3D Magic]<br />
| <br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339078 The Boy Who Saved the Stars]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382454 BV]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473557 Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473558 The Dreams of Boris Vallejo] (Dreams: The Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12299 Enchantment]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102544 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257215 1st HC] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 1st TP], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481238 2nd printing]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473328 Fantasy Art Techniques]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473327 Fantasy von Boris Vallejo] (The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo)<br />
| <br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862904 Hindsight]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313475 Ladies: Retold Tales of Goddesses and Heroines]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473331 Mirage]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8916 Vallejo, Doris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473337 Mirage]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21139 Bell, Julie]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424242 Boris Vallejo / Julie Bell: The Ultimate Collection]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?465342 Dreamland]<br />
| <br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326132 The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?437329 Imaginistix: The Art of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140208 Palumbo, Anthony] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?110918 Palumbo, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320257 Superheroes: The Heroic Visions of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell] (Titans)<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473570 Twin Visions]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7228 Vess, Charles]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282238 The Book of Ballads]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1806 Walotsky, Ron]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18276 Inner Visions: The Art of Ron Walotsky]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25693 Warren, Jim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?474024 Painted Worlds]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1804 Whelan, Michael]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?639186 Beyond Science Fiction: The Alternative Realism of Michael Whelan]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283148 Michael Whelan's Works of Wonder]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?703153 Wonderworks]: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268117 1st ed.], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218797 2nd ed.]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?488 Freas, Frank Kelly] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25746 Freas, Polly]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1455 White, Tim]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1136447 Chiaroscuro] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862187 Guild hc], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475066 5th printing]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379094 Mirror of Dreams]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?379967 The Science Fiction and Fantasy World of Tim White]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?380176 TW]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?8462 Wilks, Mike]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306004 Pile: Petals from St. Klaed's Computer]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?131 Aldiss, Brian W.]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1560 Wilson, Gahan]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325928 The Best of Gahan Wilson]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333886 Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?159100 Wood, Tom]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356371 Hellfire: Plague of Dragons]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?915 Wood, Wallace]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573316 Galaxy Art and Beyond]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?115623 Hill, Roger]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4313 Woodroffe, Patrick]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184 De Avonturen van Happer, de Eend die Gaten Eet] (The Adventures of Tinker, the Hole Eating Duck)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?459917 Benign Icons: Patrick Woodroffe's World]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480926 Hallelujah Anyway]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253387 Mythopoeikon: Fantasies, Monsters, Nightmares, Daydreams]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475200 Mythopoeikon: Fantasieën, Monsters, Nachtmerries, Dagdromen]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345597 Pastures in the Sky]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?382452 PW]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288090 The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?98917 Woodruff, Una]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475202 Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21513 Youll, Stephen]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25616 The Art of Stephen Youll: Paradox]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?96201 Young Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 The Immortals of Science Fiction]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?223 Wingrove, David]<br />
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== Various artists ==<br />
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=== Series ===<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32404 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3021 Ariel: A Fantasy Magazine, #1, Autumn 1976]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32293 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35758 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Two] [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395251 Morning Star Press], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481236 1st Ballantine], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3022 Ballantine reprint]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3023 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10815 Durwood, Thomas]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37464 Fantasy+]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377695 Fantasy+ 1: Best Artworks of Chinese CG Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377691 Fantasy+ 2: Best Artworks of CG Artists]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?377688 Fantasy+ 3: Best Hand-Painted Illustrations]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419733 Fantasy+ 4: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444186 Fantasy+ 5: World's Most Imaginative Artworks]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?170014 Vincent Zhao]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 Aliens in Space: An Illustrated Guide to the Inhabited Galaxy]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476546 Star Quest: An Incredible Voyage Into the Unknown]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476549 The Fantastic Planet: A World of Magic and Mystery]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476576 Worlds at War: An Illustrated Study of Interplanetary Conflict]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476623 Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] (as Caldwell, Steven]<br />
| English<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38057 Infected by Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510524 Infected by Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214402 Raymond, Aaron] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492531 Infected by Art: Volume Two]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558222 Infected by Art: Volume Three]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?604524 Infected by Art: Volume Four]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643639 Infected by Art: Volume Five]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?765427 Infected by Art: Volume 6]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114859 Cox, Bill] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?210517 Spoor, Todd]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?10233 Spectrum: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31618 Spectrum: The First Annual Collection of the Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy)<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?94401 Spectrum 2: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477353 Spectrum III: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] (as Burnett, Cathy) & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?477366 Spectrum 4: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21113 Loehr, Jim]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303825 Spectrum 5: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324351 Spectrum 6: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art] <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31610 Spectrum 7: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280524 Spectrum 8: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31614 Spectrum 9: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111541 Spectrum 10: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68339 Spectrum 11: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281514 Spectrum 12: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?125201 Spectrum 13: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313413 Spectrum 14: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325880 Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316127 Spectrum 16: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330978 Spectrum 17: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361147 Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404807 Spectrum 19: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?436025 Spectrum 20: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10621 Fenner, Arnie] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10622 Fenner, Cathy]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?492273 Spectrum 21: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547320 Spectrum 22: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
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| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?592449 Spectrum 23: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643272 Spectrum 24: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693568 Spectrum 25: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?173336 Fleskes, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books Deel 1<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2017<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
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|<br />
| Strijders van Dark Dragon Books 2018<br />
| uncredited<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?24892 Terran Trade Authority Handbook]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?478889 Ruimteschepen van 2000 tot 2100]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267118 Great Space Battles]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114554 Herridge, Charles]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of Space]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| <br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273277 Starliners: Commercial Spacetravel in 2200 AD]<br />
| [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Cowley, Stewart]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|}<br />
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{| border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FFFFD0" width=85%<br />
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| width=30% | '''Editor/Author'''<br />
| width=15% | '''Language'''<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243081 2000 A.D.: Illustrations from the Golden Age of Science Fiction Pulps] (Hier, l'An 2000]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Airbrush Works<br />
| Mette, C. Michael<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Album Cover Album<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Roger Dean] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?136763 Hipgnosis]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475217 The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] (as Eisler, Steven)<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?205701 Alternate Worlds: The Illustrated History of Science Fiction]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?91281 1975 hc] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266571 1976 tp]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1162 Gunn, James]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?395024 The Art of the Dragon]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?30672 Spurlock, J. David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254451 The Art of the Fantastic]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21240 de la Ree, Gerry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356372 The Art of the Lord of the Rings]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?3727 Russell, Gary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480928 Ballen van Vuur: Erotiek in de Science Fiction] (Great Balls of Fire!)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480251 Buitenaardse Landschappen]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111511 The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?111765 Humphrey, Elizabeth] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?50041 Scoville, Pamela D.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| Collector's Showcase #2<br />
| Uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109261 Conan: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Savage Barbarian]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?4517 Thomas, Roy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475562 Digital Art for the 21st Century: Renderosity]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?140569 Vysniauskas, Audre]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| The Dell "Mapbacks"<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480929 Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276662 Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 David Larkin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21 del Rey, Lester]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484416 Fantastische Schilders: Van Hieronymus Bosch tot Salvador Dali] (Painters of Fantasy: From Hieronymus Bosch to Salvador Dali)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208744 Gaunt, William]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301479 Fantasy Art Masters] (Fantasy Art of the New Millennium)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?239497 Fantasy Art Now: The Very Best in Contemporary Fantasy Art & Illustration]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26316 McKenna, Martin]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481168 Fantasy Art Now: Volume 2]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13187 Fantasy Art of the New Millennium: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310430 The Fantasy Book: The Ghostly, the Gothic, the Magical, the Unreal]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263317 Fantasy of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31692 Broecker, Randy]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1825 Frazetta, Frank], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21339 Morrill, Rowena], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1810 Vallejo, Boris]<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846894 The Flights of Icarus]: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289032 A & W Visual Library TP], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?479905 Guild HC]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167461 The Frank Collection: A Showcase of the World's Finest Fantastic Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480930 The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?208237 Peart-Smith, Paul]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302305 The Future of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129175 Fell, Aly] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?112916 Duddle, Jonny]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 Futuropolis]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?818 Sheckley, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476657 Galaxis Science Fiction: Geschichten aus der Welt von Morgen Nr.1]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145906 Alpers, Hans Joachim], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31405 Fuchs, Werner] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19861 Hahn, Ronald M.]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481292 Gothic Art: Een Unieke Verzameling van de Meest Intrigerende Gothic Art uit de Hele Wereld] (Gothic Art Now)<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?144485 Becket-Griffith, Jasmine]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271623 Great Balls of Fire!]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326852 Great Fantasy Art Themes from the Frank Collection]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21347 Frank, Jane] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21348 Frank, Howard]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268593 The Hannes Bok Memorial Showcase of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?610 Petaja, Emil]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476658 Heroic Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21114 Suckling, Nigel]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263674 Hier, l'an 2000: l'illustration de science-fiction des années 30]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?86041 Sadoul, Jacques]<br />
| French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358106 The History of Mystery]<br />
| [[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6222 Collins, Max Allan]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17291 Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1468 Weinberg, Robert]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181057 The Illustrated Book of Science Fiction Ideas & Dreams]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183925 The Incredible Pulps: A Gallery of Fiction Magazine Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Frank M. Robinson]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18233 Infinite Worlds: The Fantastic Visions of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1803 Di Fate, Vincent]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329839 Knowing Darkness: Artists Inspired by Stephen King]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21086 Beahm, George]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 Lost Realms]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307386 A Lovecraft Retrospective: Artists Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081 Walters, Jerad]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?325651 Hanson, Dian]<br />
| English, German, French<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350422 Masters of Science Fiction and Fantasy Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?591 Haber, Karen]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287672 Mechanismo]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 Harrison, Harry]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476659 Meisterwerke der Fantasy-Kunst]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207693 Sackmann, Eckart]<br />
| German<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Mermaids 2<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20754 uncredited]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?453846 The Mind's Eye: The Art of Omni]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205063 Frommer, Jeremy] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?205064 Schwartz, Rick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480891 More Fantasy Art Masters: The Best Fantasy and Science Fiction Artists Show How They Work]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21305 Jude, Dick]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252168 The New Visions: A Collection of Modern Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31483 Asher, Ellen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31548 Miller, Joe] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?31547 Sherwin, Mary]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266561 Once Upon a Time]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7927 Larkin, David]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?795265 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Illustration: 1840-1940], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243089 Jupiter Books] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243085 Pyramid Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25510 Frewin, Anthony]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351385 The Orbit Poster Book]<br />
| uncredited<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344085 Out of This World: Science Fiction: But Not as You Know it]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1367 Ashley, Mike]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872561 Paperbacks, U.S.A.: Een grafische geschiedenis, 1939-1959]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119604 Schreuders, Piet]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359306 Paper Tiger Fantasy Art Gallery]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123992 Grant, John (as Barnett, Paul)]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308366 A Pictorial History of Science Fiction]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2916 Kyle, David A.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480692 Realms of Fantasy]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609464 Realms of Tolkien: Images of Middle-Earth]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?302 Tolkien, J.R.R.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476983 Het Science Fiction Boek: Een Geschiedenis met 216 Illustraties] (The Science Fiction Book]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10982 Rottensteiner, Franz]<br />
| Dutch<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29116 Science Fiction of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1266 Robinson, Frank M.]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260562 Sci-Fi Art: A Graphic History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481360 Sci-Fi Art: A Pocket History]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?82149 Holland, Steve]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331045 Sci-Fi Art Now]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?143048 Freeman, John]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| Sexy Dreams<br />
| Unruh, Fritz<br />
| German, English, French<br />
|-<br />
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|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476691 Six Fantasy Artists at Work: Dream Makers]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21422 Evans, Chris]<br />
| English<br />
|-<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290636 The Space Art Poster Book]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102380 Tour of the Universe: The Journey of a Lifetime: The Recorded Diaries of Leio Scott and Caroline Luranski] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276932 Pierrot Publishing], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276933 Mayflower Books]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?7891 Edwards, Malcolm] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1024 Holdstock, Robert]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?572977 The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?510510 Visions of Never]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145376 Wilshire, Patrick] & [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?145377 Wilshire, Jeannie]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307444 Visions of Space: Artists Journey Through the Cosmos]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1394219 Visions of the Future]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?10983 Sacks, Janet]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1629308 De Vlucht van Icarus]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?78757 Lehmkuhl, Donald], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?123809 Dean, Martyn] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11832 Dean, Roger]<br />
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| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow: The Amazing Universe of Science Fiction Art]<br />
| [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119 Ackerman, Forrest J.], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1190 Linaweaver, Brad]<br />
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Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=669090
User talk:Willem H.
2023-08-13T20:26:11Z
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
<br />
I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
<br />
I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
<br />
I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Powers - Expiration Date ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you have a look at your PV'd {{P|191865|1995-00-00}} copy and this {{P|12842|1995-03-00}} one. The latter is dated correctly (Locus1) but apart from that I don't see any difference between them. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:53, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I think the difference is the imprint. The copyright page of my copy has the statement "Previously published as a paperback original by HarperCollins Science Fiction and Fantasy 1995". It is most likely one of the first Voyager books. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:26, 13 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=669086
User talk:Willem H.
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<p>Willem H.: /* (The) Big Book of Science Fiction */</p>
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
<br />
By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Myth & Magic ==<br />
<br />
You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
<br><br />
<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Watchtower ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== The Northern Girl ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== The Third Eagle ==<br />
<br />
On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::I also verified the same pub. Although my copy states "PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." I don't know where the date of publication comes from but the title has no "The" either on the cover or title page.--[[User:Swfritter|swfritter]] ([[User talk:Swfritter|talk]]) 14:38, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::Feel free to change the title, I'll check it (and which edition I have) when the book comes from storage. The publication date is from the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?328952 1964 Berkley Medallion edition]. I added a note about this (the date was entered by Scott Latham back in 2007). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ok, there are two other possibly active PVs involved who haven't replied yet. If they haven't replied within one more week then I will start on the edits. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nicoji ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23891; It's Don Clavette on copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:04, 13 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:SSNFSKLLSR2023.jpg&diff=668961
File:SSNFSKLLSR2023.jpg
2023-08-12T09:10:37Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Season of Skulls
|Edition=Orbit 2023 hc
|Pub=SSNFSKLLSR2023
|Publisher=Orbit
|Artist=Unknown
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Season of Skulls<br />
|Edition=Orbit 2023 hc<br />
|Pub=SSNFSKLLSR2023<br />
|Publisher=Orbit<br />
|Artist=Unknown<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:MDMNPFNQDL2023.jpg&diff=668905
File:MDMNPFNQDL2023.jpg
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<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Mad Man
|Edition=Centipede Press 2023 hc
|Pub=MDMNPFNQDL2023
|Publisher=Centipede Press
|Artist=Jacob McMurray
|ArtistId=114725
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Mad Man<br />
|Edition=Centipede Press 2023 hc<br />
|Pub=MDMNPFNQDL2023<br />
|Publisher=Centipede Press<br />
|Artist=Jacob McMurray<br />
|ArtistId=114725<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=668904
User talk:Willem H.
2023-08-11T07:50:11Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven */</p>
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
<br />
I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
<br />
You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
<br />
On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
<br />
Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
<ul><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::1) I find the Pages field very difficult. It has tortured me since I started editing the ISFDb. I must have read the related Help pages about 20 times. I've read your comment and the Help Pages for the 21st time and I still think it should be 348+[1] in this case. The seventh bullet point you've quoted does say "count forward to the last page of TEXT" (my capitalization). That means the last page of the fiction. Additional content is covered in the third bullet point which gives an example of 320+[4]. Also, this [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book How To] gives 5 examples of additional content at the end of a book. This hc of Windhaven matches the 4th example.<br />
::2) I completely agree with you. I don't consider the About the Author essay as significant and I would not have included it if I had been creating the pub record from scratch. However, I also don't mind it's presence and, as you say, a previous editor did consider it significant. It's a subjective issue so, as the essay is there, I'd prefer to leave it alone. Don't want to start an edit war.<br />
::8) Will do.<br />
::[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:26, 10 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::1) You're completely right. I hadn't noticed that helptext (yet). 348+[1] it is. Thanks for pointing that out!<br />
:::4) Scratch my remark.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:JSSNMRSWKL2023.jpg&diff=668888
File:JSSNMRSWKL2023.jpg
2023-08-10T20:45:51Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Jesus on Mars
|Edition=Meteor House 2023 hc
|Pub=JSSNMRSWKL2023
|Publisher=Meteor House
|Artist=Keith Howell
|ArtistId=121928
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Jesus on Mars<br />
|Edition=Meteor House 2023 hc<br />
|Pub=JSSNMRSWKL2023<br />
|Publisher=Meteor House<br />
|Artist=Keith Howell<br />
|ArtistId=121928<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:JSSNMRSSSL2023.jpg&diff=668887
File:JSSNMRSSSL2023.jpg
2023-08-10T20:43:01Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Jesus on Mars
|Edition=Meteor House 2023 tp
|Pub=JSSNMRSSSL2023
|Publisher=Meteor House
|Artist=Keith Howell
|ArtistId=121928
|Source=Copied from the publisher's website by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Jesus on Mars<br />
|Edition=Meteor House 2023 tp<br />
|Pub=JSSNMRSSSL2023<br />
|Publisher=Meteor House<br />
|Artist=Keith Howell<br />
|ArtistId=121928<br />
|Source=Copied from the publisher's website by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:BRNFWLDMGC2006.jpg&diff=668881
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2023-08-10T19:05:34Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Armageddon's Children
|Edition=Del Rey / Ballantine 2006 hc
|Pub=BRNFWLDMGC2006
|Publisher=Del Rey / Ballantine
|Artist=David Stevenson
|ArtistId=25582
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Armageddon's Children<br />
|Edition=Del Rey / Ballantine 2006 hc<br />
|Pub=BRNFWLDMGC2006<br />
|Publisher=Del Rey / Ballantine<br />
|Artist=David Stevenson<br />
|ArtistId=25582<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=668858
User talk:Willem H.
2023-08-10T08:51:27Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven */</p>
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<div>See [[User talk:Willem H./Archive]] for older discussions.<br />
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
<br />
Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
<br />
Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
<br />
As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
<br><br />
<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
<br><br />
<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
<br><br />
<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
<br />
As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
<br />
Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
<br />
Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
<br />
You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
<br />
By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
<br />
You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
<br><br />
<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
<br />
On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
<br />
Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
<br />
Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
<br />
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
<br />
I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Nice one! Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin & Tuttle / Windhaven ==<br />
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You have PVd the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54793 1st hc] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251127 1st US pb] of Windhaven. I am editing and PVing both of these pubs and would like to make the following changes:<br />
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1) hc: As the essay is listed in the Contents section, the Pages field should be 348+[1].<br />
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2) hc: In the book, the essay is erroneously titled "About the Author" (no "s") even though it is about both authors. So I'll change the title of the ISFDb record and add a note.<br />
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3) pb: LCCN 80-28177 is stated on copyright page. However, this refers to the Timescape hc edition so I'll delete the External ID and add an explanatory pub note. There is no LCCN for this pb.<br />
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4) pb: Pages field 324+[1] (see below).<br />
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5) pb: Import the existing "About the Authors" essay on page [325]. Publisher has corrected the title (added the "s") in this pb.<br />
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6) both: There are two records for the maps. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211344 This one] is used for the hc and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1090037 this other one] is used for the pb's. I have compared the maps and the artwork is identical so I will merge and add a note.<br />
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7) both: There are two records for the "About the Authors" essay. One is used in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1211342 hc edition] and the other is used in a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1500122 pb edition] although the hc one will get a title change (see point 2 above). I have compared the text of these essays and they are identical so one needs to be varianted to the other. However, I'm not sure which would be better as the parent. The hc one appears first but the pb one has the correct title and will appear in more pubs. Can you please advise me on this.<br />
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Whew! Think that's everything. Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:That's quite a list. Point by point:<br />
:1) The [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages rules] say (seventh bullet) "It is fairly common for the last page (or more) of text in a book to be unnumbered. In this case, count forward to the last page of text and use that as the publication's page count. For example, if a novel ends on the unnumbered page after page 244, enter the page count as "245" with an explanatory note about the unnumbered last page." The pages field should be 349 with a note about the last page.<br />
:2) [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Contents_included_with_exceptions Rules of Acquisition] (second bullet) state: "About the Author" and other biographical sketches: Include these when they are separate entries in the publication and are of substantial length or quality. Don't include them when they are part of a blurb or lead-in, or otherwise insignificant. Eligible works should be entered as ESSAYs. When I verified the pub, there were two separate essays, these were later combined. I don't think the essay is significant, but a previous editor did, so I don't mind it's presence. The essay can either be deleted, or given the correct title.<br />
:3) The external id should indeed be deleted, and a pub note added.<br />
:4) The pages field should be 325 with a note about the last page.<br />
:5) If you think the essay is significant it can be added. No need for square brackets around 325<br />
:6) Good find! please proceed<br />
:7) The rules are [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries here] (section 5). Again, if you think the essay is significant, start by making the first occurrence of the title the parent. It can always be easily reversed.<br />
:8) While you're editing, the novel in the HC needs a pagenumber (13)<br />
: Hope that helps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 10 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Elsbernd&diff=668833
User talk:Elsbernd
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==Singularity Station==<br />
I have your edit to create a variant for {{T|4466|Singularity Station}} on hold. I believe you are attempting to create a German variant titled ''Erstarrt in der Zeit''? That is not what your edit is accomplishing. Instead, it is creating a German title that is the same as the English title. The transliterated field is not a translation. It is a transliteration (conversion of non-Latin to Romanized script). <br />
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:I have rejected the edit since there has not be a response. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:13, 27 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Page numbers ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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Although rarely, the contents page and the actual book disagree on what page a story starts on. Our policy is to use the number of the page the story is -- and to note any discrepancies in the notes. If we do not have the book, we go by the contents page only of course but with a book in hand, both should be checked. As you had been filling in page numbers based on the contents page only on books you have, this is just heads up to verify that as well and add any needed changes and notes if some of them do not match. Thanks and let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:51, 23 January 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Spectrum III ==<br />
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About [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4902727 this update] - we can obviously see the cover but not the title page of the book. Do you own the book? If you do, is it exactly the same printing - all dates and prices matching? IF not, can you share where you are seeing the title page? Thanks! <br />
In books like this one where we have active verifiers, the policy is to also check with them before updating - I will do it now but you can do it yourself as well. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:46, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
: The editor who has the book confirmed that the book title page indeed uses "III" and not "3" (the front cover and spine show "3"). If your book uses 3, then you have a different edition and you can add it as a separate one. So I will reject the change. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:00, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
:: Yes, I own the book and it is the correct edition; but you're correct, the title page shows 'Spectrum III' as the correct title. Sorry for the confusion. I'm still at the beinning of my learning curve. [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] 04:51, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
::: That's ok - that is why we triple check. :) Titles can show up in 4 or 5 different places in a book: Cover, Spine, Title page, Contents Page and on top of each page - and they can all be different. We always want the one from the title page when we have access to it. That is why this one uses "III" in its title even though the cover and spine says 3. :)<br />
::: If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask and have fun! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:01, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: Well then: I got the book ISBN 0-552-10161-3, "Corgi Edition reprinted 1977", which thas 3 entries in ISFDB. The one with the correct year has wrong page numbers (correct would be 223), no cover. Should I change that entry, or should I try to create a new entry. [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] 05:12, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
::::: So you have the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?312198 1977 edition]. Yep - absolutely, edit it and correct it. See how there are no Primary Verifiers (see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?126951 the 1976 one for a comparison]? This means that noone that has the book had worked on the record. And if you look at the note, it was added because we knew it exists from the 1980 edition. So fix it (fix the pages, add price and cover, add notes (for example the printing statement from the copyright page) and then verify it so we know it had been updated from the book itself :)<br />
::::: This is the main difference between verified and not verified books - a lot of the non-verified books are just stubs like this one. If you have the exact year/printing/publisher, you just update it. If we miss your printing/year, then you add a new one. Hope this makes sense. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:20, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== The Second Astounding Science Fiction Anthology ==<br />
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I approved the changes you made [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46657 here] but reversed the publisher change. I just update the old publisher info to make it clearer that we use the record for both the independent publisher and then for it as an imprint. Feel free to add a note on how exactly the publisher is credited in the book as part of the notes. <br />
The publisher field is one of the ones we semi-standardize - making it possible for the books to show up on publishers' pages and not have 100 versions per publisher. Let me know if you have any questions/concerns. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:36, 8 February 2021 (EST)<br />
: Well yes, It makes sense to standardize the publishers list. The Copyright Page states "Four Square Books are published by The New English Library Limited from Barnard's Inn, Holborn. London ECI" And well, I catalog my books personally with Collectorz.com Book Collector; and there I try to distinguish the publisher companies/imprints and buyout by other publishers. Therfore I noted New English Library.<br />
: So no problem at all.<br />
: Question: Should I note that the title of the book on the spine is written as "THE 2nd. ASTOUNDING SCIENCE FICTION ANTHOLOGY"? In caps or correctly written as "The 2nd. ..."?<br />
:: In the notes - yes. When the cover, title page and spine differ in any way, we explain that in notes. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 09:21, 9 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== King Solomon's Mines ==<br />
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4913392 this submission]: Your previous clone is {{P|823714|here}}. Your note on this submission says "I got this edition; Second try to clone." Are you saying the first attempt was an error? If so you should instead edit the first version. Let me know what you meant. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:59, 14 February 2021 (EST)<br />
: No, the first one wasn't an error. I'm learning how to submit/clone books. I hadn't found my submission on the "My Recent Edit Lists" nor there was a sign on the submission page, that the submission was successful. I thought, the submission wasn't correct/successful, because the duplicate Catalog-ID was mentioned. And I overlooked the "My Pending Edits" List. My fault.<br />
: Note, after approving, I would like to upload the corresponding cover, since Annie told me to do this that way. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Elsbernd|Elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Elsbernd|contribs]]) .</small><br />
::Sorry, I'm still confused:<br />
::*When you say that you couldn't find your submission, it makes it sound like you submitted a second submission by mistake.<br />
::*But your comment on after approving makes it sound like you expect the second to be approved even though we already have one.<br />
::Do you have two different printings of this pub? Or only one? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:26, 14 February 2021 (EST)<br />
::: * Well, I submitted the Edition, but was confused by the fact, that I couldn't find my submission in the list of My Recent Edits.<br />
::: * I thought, that the reason for this was the Message from the submission page, that the Catalog-ID was already in the DB.<br />
::: * So, I talked re-submitted the same book again. Annie told me, that duplicate Catalog-IDs are not unusual.<br />
::: * So you got two submission of the same book. You could reject one of them. Depends on you.<br />
::: * Note: my confusion was increased by the fact, that there is no note about on an HTML-Page, that this submission is on it's way. There is only a page, that tells the differences and highlights problems.<br />
::: * Sorry for the confusion. [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] 13:06, 17 February 2021 (EST)<br />
::::{{P|824332|Here}} is your publication. Please verify it and add a cover if you can. The other one has been deleted. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:37, 18 February 2021 (EST)<br />
:::::Just managed to upload an image of the cover to the book. Question: Is it possible to upload a back cover of the book, and how can this be displayed. The back cover of book is an extension of the image of the front cover (and has notes "Published by Penguin Books")<br />
::::::With a dust jacket, it's easy as you can take off the jacket and take an image of the whole thing. For a pb like this, you can use an image editing program to combine both images into one and replace the current image with that. That has the benefit of displaying both images. Otherwise, you can manually upload to [[:Image:KNGSLMNSMC1961-back.jpg]] (or a similar name) and link to it in the pub notes. Just be sure to add a license template manually (you can copy from the current image page). --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:46, 22 February 2021 (EST)<br />
:::::::Just managed to upload the back cover and put a link into the Pub Note-Section. [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] 10:23, 23 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Strange Relations ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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I left an explanation in my rejection note [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4941152 here] but the basic rule is that we standardize a bit so when you are not sure, look at the rest of the books from the same year from this publisher. All of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisheryear.cgi?19+1960+1 the covers with the K] have the space so unless you want to update all the books we have, we use no space. :) I added a note on the publisher page as well. If we decide to fix the space issue, we can change that easily :) As long as we document and we are at least semi-consistent, it works either way. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:05, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Prices in pence ==<br />
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When you have UK books priced in pence, the price needs to be recorded in pounds. See [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PublicationFields:Price the help page]: "In the 1970s, many British books cost less than a pound and so would be priced in pence alone, e.g. 25p. These should be regularized like dollars and cents, e.g. 25p should be entered as £0.25 and 95p as £0.95.". I fixed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?828831 Countdown]. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:14, 22 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Edit: J. G. Ballard Kriegsfieber (ISBN 9783924959418) ==<br />
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I just edited Kriegsfieber Limited Edition of publisher Edition Phantasia, Bellheim.<br />
Added Page Numbers; tried to correct wrong title "Antworten auf einen Fragebogen", real title "Antworten eines Verhörs"<br />
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== ''Die vergessene Marsstadt'' ==<br />
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Sorry, but you changed erroneously the DNB link no.: now it refers to ''Gesänge des Computers'' and not to the other - intended - half of the collection, ''Die vergessene Marsstadt''. I'll change it back. I also did find it confusing that it's a republication but under a different title - but that's why there's a note of that kind in the DNB entry. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 09:08, 20 June 2022 (EDT<br />
: Sorry to be late, I was ill for some weeks. But you're right. While cleaning up my own DB for "Gesänge des Computers" (MvS), I encountered two versions of the Ullstein editions (#31044). Since I own almost all of the TB, I should have searched severall boxes, which is currently not possible. In normal cases, I edit only books on my table. I'll be more observant.<br />
: A note: It should be possible to have a look at the differences between the DB-Entry and the Submissions, before they will be submitted to the moderator. This could prevent spelling errors, and other mistakes. Currently, to my limitted knowledge, Submit(ting) Data transfers them directly to the moderator, without further checking. Maybe I should contact Ahauserus for this request.<br />
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:: Now I'm somewhat late, I think. It really seems the error ocurred with the republication by Ullstein under a different title (previously it was "Gesänge des Computers Teil 2"). Things like these do happen accidentally.<br />
:: I have a remark for the recently added printing of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?912638 Star Songs of an Old Primate]. There's still the note 'Printing not stated', while the printing seems to be in fact stated ("Second Printing: February 1979"). Could you please check / correct this?<br />
::: It seemed, that I accidently cloned the first printing or alike, can't remember. And didn't remove the 'Printing not stated' note. Corrected. [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]]) 09:05, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: And please do sign your comments and remarks with the obligatory four tildes (that is four times '~'): this way it's documented who is writing (and when). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 06:10, 31 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
::: I'm still learning :-) [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]]) 09:05, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Dates of introductions ==<br />
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In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5487313 this submission], you asked, "Can the date of the introduction be edited?". Yes, but the date for an introduction is the date when it was published rather than when it was written. It's fine to include a note (as you did) indicating the date of the introduction, though. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:43, 15 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Mindbridge - Haldeman ==<br />
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Hi Klaus, to continue here from Dirk's page about this title. I have just submitted my 1977 printing and I'll link you too it when it is approved. I suggest you delay until you see that and then submit yours. We can sort out the printing sequence afterwards. Does that seem good to you? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:35, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::Yes, this sounds resonable. I'm not an expert in adding new publications, so I usaually change/add data to an existing one. Since I onwn all those publication, I could provide missing imaages and alike. --[[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]]) 22:48, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::Ok, I'll let you know. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:02, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::::Hello Klaus, letting you know that I have now finished my {{P|937659|1977 printing}}. Let me know if you have any questions. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:49, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:::::Thank you for finishing the entry.[[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]]) 07:08, 1 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Names and accents ==<br />
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Hi. I accepted your submission that added Kobo Abé to the list of transliterations for {{A|c安部公房|265}}, and I saw your note about wanting to change the credit from Kobo Abe to Kobo Abé on {{P|270817|The Woman in the Dunes}}. That will not work. The software will find the unaccented "Kobo Abe" author record and will match the accented form you enter to it, effectively losing the accent. There's an explanation [[ISFDB:FAQ#How_does_the_ISFDB_deal_with_Unicode_and_accented_characters.3F|here]]. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 11:27, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thank you for the link and clarifying this issue. [[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]]) 07:01, 1 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Art of Richard Powers ==<br />
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Hello Eisbernd, I am holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this edit], that wants to add the separate chapters of the book as individual essays, add "Chapter x: " to the titles and also add the "Bibliography and Acknowledgements" (page 127) and "Index of Works" (page 128) as essays.<br />
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* Normally, the NONFICTION title represents the text by the editor. However, I can support having the chapters as separate essays (different authors, an interview). "Chapter x: " is i.m.o. not part of the title, and should not be included. Also "standard" titles should be disambiguated by parenthetically appending the container title to the title of the essay (see the [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title_2 helptext], final bullet). so it should be "Bibliography and Acknowledgements (The Art of Richard Powers)" and "Index of Works (The Art of Richard Powers)"<br />
* Your suggestion to add the sub-chapters in Chapter Two: these should not be entered as separate essays, but can be mentioned in the notes.<br />
* You credit "Index of Works" to "Editor". We only do that, if the item is credited this way in the book. This is not the case, so it should be credited to Jane Frank.<br />
* We have a rule/good habit to discuss changes like this with active primary verifiers before submitting the edit. Please remember this. I have asked the other active PV (Mavmaramis) to share his opinion here.<br />
Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:24, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::I think you've done an excellent job explaining the situation. Don't really see the need to add or indeed the logic of adding 'chapters' to non-fiction content (even if the chapters are seperately named) unless written by different hands which isn't the case here. It hasn't been done in most other instances of one author penning non fictional content. IMO it's overkill.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::: Sorry for the late reply; had problems to solve. I'm still on a learning curve. Since changes of a verified book always have to be controlled by a moderator, I submitted my suggestions, and you could reject them, if you have another opinion. Should I cancel the submission and try a new one, or would you like to apply accepted changes by yourself? --[[User:Elsbernd|elsbernd]] ([[User talk:Elsbernd|talk]]) 22:38, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::: Thanks for responding! I accepted the edit and made the necessary changes. Does it [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298166 look] ok now? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=668830
User talk:Willem H.
2023-08-09T19:10:16Z
<p>Willem H.: /* Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty */</p>
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
<br />
Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
<br />
Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
<br />
Hi.<br />
<br />
I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
<br />
I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
<br />
I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
<br />
"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
<br />
While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
<br />
ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
<br />
Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
<br />
Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
<br />
I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem. <br />
<br />
I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
<br />
I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
<br />
I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
<br />
I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
<br />
I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
<br />
Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
<br />
In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
<br />
Hello Willem,<br />
<br />
I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
<br />
On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
<br />
I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
<br />
Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
<br />
Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
<br />
:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
<br />
Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
<br />
Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
<br />
As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
<br><br />
<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
<br />
Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
<br />
Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
<br><br />
<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
<br><br />
<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
<br />
:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
<br />
Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
<br />
As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
<br />
Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
<br />
Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
<br />
Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
<br />
Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
<br />
You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
<br />
By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
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I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
<ul><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::Responded on Ron's page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:10, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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If you're writing to inform me that you've either added a missing COVER IMAGE or NOTES to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, please click [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Rtrace/Changes_to_Verified_Pubs&action=edit&section=1 HERE] and add it to the bottom of the list. A link to the pub record would be appreciated. Once the pub has been reviewed, I'll remove your note from the list. Thanks. Ron (Rtrace)<br />
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See <br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive]] (2007-2009 [1])<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive2]] (2009 [2])<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive3]] (2010)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive4]] (2011)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive5]] (2012)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive6]] (2013)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive7]] (2014)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive8]] (2015)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive9]] (2016)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive10]] (2017)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive11]] (2018)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive12]] (2019)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive13]] (2020)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive14]] (2021)<br />
* [[User talk:Rtrace/Archive15]] (2022)<br />
for older discussions.<br />
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== A Hand-Drawn Map of New Crobuzon - interior artwork by China Miéville ==<br />
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Hi Ron, I have a 12th printing of the 2011 edition of China's novel Perdido Street Station and I'm trying to sort out all the map references under different titles to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442912 his credited map here]. So I can make sure it's the same map, could you do me a favour and check for me:<br />
:China is definitely credited as the artist.<br />
:"New Crobuzon" appears as the title at bottom left.<br />
:4 points of the compass at top right.<br />
:Key (Skyrail, Railways, Woodland) at bottom right.<br />
:Scale (2 miles) at top left.<br />
If the map is the same as the one I have, I think several changes would be in order.<br />
:'Your' map pub date is 2013-10-00 - I think this should be a variant of the original map pub title/date [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1666143 - see here], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?19616 and here].<br />
:Further, a search on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=crobuzon&type=All+Titles on Crobuzon] shows Hitspacebar (in his 2014 entry) to be the only one titling the map correctly according to the Help guidelines.<br />
:Accordingly and if you think it's correct, I propose changing the titles of all the maps to "New Corbuzon (map) (2000-03-00) by China Miéville (as by uncredited)" and varianting your 2013 title to that.<br />
I hope this all makes sense - the maps are a mess :) Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:18, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:Hi BanjoKev<br />
:I also have the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311532 7th Del Rey printing]. The map in the World Fantasy Convention book is definitely a different map than that published in the Del Rey editions. It is credited to Miéville insofar as it is part of a collection of his drawings with a paragraph explaining when and why he drew them. While I don't believe it's mentioned in the help pages, there is a de facto standard of naming INTERIORART records by their caption when present, which is why the hand drawn map is named as it is. Thus, the 2013 map should not be re-titled or made a variant of the other maps.<br />
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::That's great! Could you add a note to the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1713854 title record] so that this doesn't get messed up in future? --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:30, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:::I see you've done that already, thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:41, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:The map in the Del Rey edition matches your description with the exception that there is no artist credited. The map is not currently listed in the publication record of my copy. I agree with you that this map should be titled "New Crobuzon (map)" (correcting a small typo). Since you're working on this, I'll hold off on adding it to my publication until after you've determined the title and original date of the other maps. I do suspect that it occurs in all the Del Rey editions. You can go ahead and import the ultimate title record for the map to the 7th Del Rey edition. Alternatively, you can let me know once you're done merging that maps and I can do that. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:11, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
::So, your different map is the only one credited to China - all the rest are uncredited. I'll sort all this out, including the 7th Del Rey and let you know when it's all done. Many thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:30, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:::I've completed all the changes needed for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1666143 all the maps], including your 7th Del Rey printing. The only loose end is the map & novel pagination in yours if you'd do the honours. Thanks for your help, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:52, 9 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forest J. Ackerman credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Rtrace&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:35, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:Both lacked the period after the middle initial and I've changed them. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:09, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks for checking! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 21:40, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Moon Maiden ==<br />
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Dear sir:<br />
I am fond of Garrett P. Serviss. In fact, I have read all his works (but The Moon Maiden) and I am translating them into Spanish for first time (e.g. https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B09NRJTWT3).<br />
I have not managed to get a text of The Moon Maiden in any format and I have not been able to find Argosy 1915 not in paper nor scanned. I tried everything! <br />
Could you, please, somehow, hand me a scanned version (or pictured by phone or any mean) of the pages of Argosy May 1915 where it was first published? Nothing I can offer in exchange but gratitude and, if you wish, credit.<br />
Best regards.<br />
Rubene Guirauta (RubeneGuirauta@gmail.com){{unsigned|Lidenbrock}} <br />
:Hi Rubene<br />
:Unfortunately, I do not own a copy of that issue of Argosy. I think you may have gotten the impression that I do because of the secondary verifications that I have marked on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?277246 the publication record]. What I have verified is that Bleiler's ''[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1280738 Science-Fiction: The Early Years]'', Clute and Nicholls ''[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102324 Encyclopedia of Science Fiction]'' and Tuck's ''[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102393 The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy]'' all mention that issue of Argosy. Without rechecking each of those references, I suspect the issue is listed because of the Serviss story, the Franklin story, or both. As I'm sure you are aware, there is a later publication of the novel by Crawford/FPCI, but again, I don't possess a copy and have only verified its existence through secondary sources. I did also look for that issue of Argosy at [https://archive.org/ the Internet Archive], which does have scans of many pulps, but unfortunately not the one you're looking for. Good luck with your project, and I'm sorry I couldn't be more help. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:55, 16 January 2023 (EST)<br />
::Hi Ron<br />
::Thank you very much for your answer. I understand the role of verificator... but I had to make this attempt, there was a chance you could have it. It is really a challenge to find this issue of Argosy (or the edition of 1978 of The Moon Maiden). I have tried in Internet Archive, Hathi Trust, Library of Congress and others, and in second hand sellers (Abebooks, eBay, Facebook groups...) unsuccessfully. In case in future (this quest is going to last, I am afraid) you could get any information, copy, scan, picture or any clue, please let me know. Best regards. Rubene.<br />
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== Heroic Fantasy frontispiece artist ==<br />
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There's an unentered frontispiece in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16965 Heroic Fantasy] that has a signature that I don't know how to interpret. Do you? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 17:20, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:Is that an "R G K" which may indicate [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?901 Roy G. Krenkel]? He did do some covers for DAW. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:37, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Amazon image for Assassin's Price ==<br />
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I have replaced the Amazon image with a scan from my copy for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?657176 Assassin's Price] by L. E. Modesitt, Jr. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] ([[User talk:Holmesd|talk]]) 23:34, 29 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Lovecraft's Notes ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL20222766M/Some_notes_on_H.P._Lovecraft.; https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281745; OL cover has the price on it; alternate? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:29, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I don't think it's an alternate. My copy has the price and I've replaced the image with a scan of my copy. Given the date of the previous upload, I was probably replacing an unstable Amazon image and may have just saved theirs and re-uploaded. I don't know what publication the image without a price represents. Chalker/Owings mentions two subsequent editions. There was a library edition published without imprint by people associated with the University of Wisconsin. However C/O states that it was bound in green cloth and issued without a jacket. There was also a 1982 edition from Necronomicon Press, but their publications are usually larger in size. In any case, the image is now correct. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:00, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Wizard of Maldoone ==<br />
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Ron, Any objection to converting [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3091797 to CHAPBOOK]? While approving the addition of the softcover, I looked at the scan in the internet archive. There is no way this is 40,000 words. I'm checking since you entered the hc edition and added the secondary verifications. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:30, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:No objection at all. I've only verified from secondary sources. Reginald uses the terms "novel" or "story" for length and I believe has different thresholds for these terms than ours. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:03, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Whispers, 1987 ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289107; https://fantlab.ru/images/editions/plus/big/219866_3; I added FantLab ID to digest edition; Russell story says "Kolorized" on contents page, not "Kolarized", and Eisenstein story says "Weasling", not "Weaseling". 1 seems like contents may be right, the other one seems like a misspelling. So if you can check your HC copy. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:15, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:It looks like [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] has already taken care of the correction and explained the contents error. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:07, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Pearl Pumpkin ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?342293; Halloween, not Haloween, according to title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:31, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:08, 30 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Baxter - Raft ==<br />
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Hi Ron, just noticed your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?664698 Raft]. My later printing pagination is x-245 - perhaps yours is a typo? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 23:57, 31 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:Not a typo. The last numbered page in my copy is 246. The last page has the author bio and is numbered. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:43, 1 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Black Sorcerer ==<br />
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Hi Ron, could you moderate [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5568056 this submission] please. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:59, 1 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Done. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:44, 1 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thank you Ron! That record solves a lot of problems. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:14, 1 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Walter Wiggins ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5567353; Isn't that a title page photo in the AbeBooks link I provided in the moderator note, with a Jr. on it? Also, I re-did the other edit of mine you rejected recently re: changing Charnal to Charnel with the page that says Charnel House on it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:19, 2 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:So it does. I've changed the author's name which allowed me to approve your original edit without losing data. Just keep in mind, that when you change the last reference to an author's name in a publication or title, the software deletes the old author record and creates a new one. Thus, any data on the old author record is lost. No need to inform me about the re-issued edit, it will come up in the queue be handled by whoever is working it at the time. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:32, 2 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::Honestly, you're the main handler of my edits these days; some mods have quit recently, at least for the time being, others just do a few of my edits now and then that you skip for one reason or another. Dirk used to do a lot of mine until recently (he used to do a lot in my early days but got mad at me and stopped doing them for awhile) when he got mad at somebody else on these boards and decided to take a break until 2024, https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Acceptable_moderator_behavior.3F, and JLaTondre and Ahasuerus used to do a bunch when they had the time but they're so busy doing site stuff that it rarely happens anymore. So odds are you'll be the one to approve that specific edit and you'll know why I provided the zine link because you're the one who rejected it and asked for proof; someone else may be unclear why I'm adding something like that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:52, 2 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::As it turns out, I was the one who worked that edit. However, the title wasn't correct for what was in the scan. I've corrected it and it's fine now. If I'm the only one working the queue, then that's a problem. As I am going on vacation starting tomorrow, I will be approving few if any edits in the next 10 days. I do see other moderators approving edits other than their own in the recent approvals page. I'm not surprised that other moderators skip some of your edits. I do that myself when you've failed to notify primary verifiers, or not provided sufficient sources for your edit. I also skip them in cases where the research required to approve your edit is more than I have time for while I'm working the queue. In the past, I have held your submissions and left notes on your talk page, but this invariably results in arguments that you feel you don't need to notify or document. I'm tired of making the same arguments each time, so I choose to ignore these edits. I will still reject or hold edits that are destructive, or that introduce potentially incorrect data. I can't speak as to why others skip your edits, but this has been my experience. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:25, 2 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::::I'm fully aware of why you skip certain of my edits, although in almost all cases whatever I did in those edits ends up being approved by others because it was correct; most of my edits end up being approved by you, anyway, so the ones you skip are in the minority. As I've said before, with the massive amount of edits I do (more than almost any other non-moderator in the history of this site, and that's in just 2 years or so) I don't expect every one of them to be approved; a few always fall by the wayside. In the case of the Charnel House thing, I see that you added those secondary verifications you mentioned which had the incorrect "Charnal", but the scan of the issue at hand has been available on Archive.org for many years, so really before adding those verifications less than a year ago you could easily have checked all info in the magazine itself and would have discovered this problem and fixed it yourself instead of me having to fix it like I've had to fix thousands of other things on this site (and I suspect there are many other Cemetery Dance mistakes on ISFDB since so many different people have worked on the 70+ issues). Re: Dirk, he used to do a lot of mine, didn't like the fact that I questioned some of his rejections, and decided to stop, but started again last year, then stopped completely because of his problems with other mods, including both of those I mentioned above and a few others, questioning him. Apparently he has a problem with being questioned. Other mods just don't have the time because the server move created such a big mess they spend most of their time bug-fixing. I'm sure there's a couple that have some personal grudge against me because I'm not an ass-kisser who bows and scrapes so they can get themselves self-moderator status and that's why they rarely approve anything of mine (although they still do occasionally, usually for edits that have some minor problem they can complain about) but honestly, who cares, 43,000 edits and counting. I'm an amateur just doing this to pass the time; I have no time for any of the personal issues so many on here seem to have. As I go through old board messages I can see that many of the angry people who still edit on this site behaved the same way LONG before I started here, so really none of this has anything to do with me. Also, if you ever feel upset about a few of my edits not being exactly done right, just remember how many countless edits either approved by you for others or entered by you personally I've had to fix. Do I complain about that? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:14, 2 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Pwendt for self-approver ==<br />
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Hi, Ron. I should be a self-approver here and I expect you agree with that. I prefer to be nominated by a longtime heavy-duty contributor, but I plan to nominate myself ("Self-nomination for self-approver") sometime tomorrow if you, plural, is available, ready and willing in the next ~20 hours. I write to a couple others too.<br />
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A couple hours ago, you approved this morning's creation of a parent Nancy Drew collection as by "unknown", noted "1st of 5 this collection". Recently I had deleted the other four, and several more, upon suddenly recognizing that it only creates more work to Make parent titles without attending first to the Juvenile tag, among other things. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:39, 2 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Le Guin - The Wind's Twelve Quarters and The Compass Rose ==<br />
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Hi Ron, is [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THWNDSTWLC0000.jpg this image] any use for your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523721 PV here]?<br />
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Same for this [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THMNWHFLLD0000.jpg image] for yours [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?567977 here]. Kev.<br />
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: Better yet, I can upload to your pubs "your-pub-specific" images which are exactly the same as the Amazon ones if that's ok with you. I'm trying to avoid linked images like the plague now, I did a test to find out the bad things that can happen with linked images. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:41, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I don't worry that much about Amazon images except for the ones known to be unstable. I do know with the SF Masterworks they've frequently had images that differ slightly from the printed copies, but not in this case. However, if you're more comfortable, I can link to your images. No need to duplicate them in the server. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:46, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Demons By Daylight ==<br />
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https://archive.org/details/demonsbydaylight0000camp; Does this require a separate entry, having the $6.00 sticker you mention in your notes, or should I just add it to your PV? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:10, 9 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:No need for a separate publication record. None of the secondary sources ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?983721 Chalker/Owings], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?971274 Jaffery], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?152881 Nielsen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?709492 Joshi]) mention a change in price, though I'm sure that is what this is. My copy is one of the ones with the sticker. However, the addition of a sticker isn't really a new publication. I've gone ahead and added the link to the scan. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:38, 12 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Robot Visions ==<br />
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You verified a {{P|792984|3rd printing}}. I'd like to verify the {{P|278195|4th}} but I have some updates to the contents which are likely the same in your printing:<br />
* artwork on page ii is same as on page 260. I would change the latter to the same title.<br />
* artwork on page 42 is not listed. We could call this "Robot Visions [12]"<br />
* page 82 should say 83<br />
I can update both printings if you're in agreement. Thanks. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 20:13, 14 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:All these changes are fine, except for the repeated artwork on pages ii and 260. A single title record cannot occur twice in the same publication. Thus if you renamed the artwork on page 260 to "Robot Visions" and then tried to merge the two INTERIORART titles, it would create a problem. What we want to do instead is to make [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?954582 Robot Visions (8)] (changed brackets to parentheses for the wiki markup only) into a variant of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?645229 Robot Visions]. Please feel fee to proceed with the changes. I can help with the variant if you're not familiar with how to do that. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:25, 15 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thanks for the help. I found instructions on making variants and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5584016 went ahead]. Hope I got that right. Once that lands I'll go ahead with the edits to both pubs. I could use a clue on creating the new art title "Robot Visions [12]." My guess is I just put that in when editing a publication, and a title entry is automatically created in the db? [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 10:58, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::By sheer coincidence, Robot Visions is next up on my pile and this thread came up on my watchlist. I have the VGSF [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?227061 1st printing] if I can be of any assistance :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:34, 15 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::Does your book have the same interior art? If so you could add them to the contents, once we're done with the title changes. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 10:58, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::::Not the same. I'll use your pagination for clarity (mine is different).<br />
::::* Yours has 11 pages of interiorart, mine has 12.<br />
::::* My art in the stories agrees with your pages: ii, 3, 24, 51, 82, 123, 235, 245, 343, 359, 401.<br />
::::* Mine also has art in "Too Bad!" (a couple looking at a robot they're considering buying). It would be good if you would allow a gap for this in your numbering(?) system, so that this one can fit in nicely with the sequence when I add it.<br />
::::* The art for "The Bicentennial Man" is the same as at your ii.<br />
::::* My book pagination is correct at 383 pages and it's counted from the very first page inside the front cover. The first numbered page is page 7 and the Introduction starts on page 9. There are no pages with Roman numerals, as yours has.<br />
::::[edit] It might be a good idea to put a brief description of the art in the title records when the dust has settled, to aid identification and guard against publishers swapping the art around. Let me know if there's anything else. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:22, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::::Kev, [https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMbkK7oU1AnS3GU7 here are photos] of all the art in {{P|278195|my book}} if you want to compare with yours. If you were comparing with what isfdb currently says, I'm sorry, I haven't fixed that yet. (I'll let you know.) I love your idea of describing the art in the notes. I mean, unless there's a way to put in actual pictures (Ron?) then notes are needed to make the entries useful so I will add some. My book does indeed have roman numerals, only on the TOC pages oddly enough. ymmv. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 14:59, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::::::I wouldn't suggest linking to scans of the artwork, which is under copyright. I do have a suggestion, though it is a bit more work. There are a few ways that INTERIORART can be named. Here we have named it after the title of the collection, with a numeric disambiguator added to all but the first title. However, we could name each INTERIORART with the title of the story where the artwork occurs (and for which it presumably illustrates). Thus, we would avoid having to name a missed record our of sequence (Robot Visions [12]), and it would also go some way to describe each title. This would make a description less necessary, but it can still be added if desired. I would recommend naming the artwork on page ii as "Robot Visions (frontispiece)" while still making it's repeat on page 260 a variant. The only drawbacks to this, are that it's a bunch of edits, and we would want to notify the active primary verifiers of all the editions. Actually, it looks that aside from us three, that would only include [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]. We should also probably break the variant relationship for the Portuguese title. That title appears to be for all the artwork for the book and not just the frontispiece. This should be checked with the verifier. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:12, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::::::Thanks for the suggestion Ron. I'm willing to tackle this. I was going to edit all the titles anyway so renaming them along the way doesn't seem like much more work. I think it's ok to start with the variant business you proposed above? As I said up there (but easily missed because I foolishly inserted it in the middle of the thread) I already have [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5584016 a submission] in for that. And as I asked up there, to create a title one just adds it to a publication, and if it doesn't match an existing title a new entry is created? Thanks. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 19:45, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::::::::Sorry, I meant to answer that. But it sounds like you've got it. Just edit the publication and use the add title button. After you've added it to one publication, you can use the import tools to get it in the other publications. You'll need the Title Record # from either the newly added title (after it is approved), if you want to add an individual title, or you can import all the titles from the container that has the new one. The software is smart enough that it doesn't try to import titles that are already there, so you'll catch anything missing from the target record that is in the source record. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:00, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
(unindent) Good idea putting the photos up for me to identify! It does take us a little further down the wormhole though.<br />
* We've each got all 12 artworks.<br />
* My versions of your p.37 (Too Bad!) & p.359 (Galley Slave) have been horizontally reversed - not that that matters to our titling, but it's a nice little observation to include in the ''Publication Notes'' if they're different from your description in the canonical title - for instance, in my publication notes I would add "The image for [........] has been reversed in this collection". This led me to consider how you would describe the art depiction in the ''Title Records''#. The only thing I could come up with to overcome the 'direction' would be something like, for p.37, "....Robot facing ''page-right''." and similarly for p.359. It's a bit more difficult with a couple of others... For the frontispiece (good one Ron) and p.260, the best indicator is the lighting on the robot's hand to ''page-left'': brighter than the other one. For p.235 something like "...top of head hinged up towards ''page-left''."<br />
* I like the titling method: "Robot Visions (frontispiece)", "Robot Visions (Introduction: The Robot Chronicles)" ...etc. This will cover all eventualities I think.<br />
*:Not precisely what I was suggesting. For the artwork on page 3, I would name it "Introduction: The Robot Chronicles"; "Robot Visions" for page 24, "Too Bad!" for page 42, etc. This is how these would be handled if this were a magazine. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:24, 17 February 2023 (EST)<br />
I appreciate the work you're putting into this, I'm sure the end result will be rewarding :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:58, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: It's good practice doing different kinds of edits. I drafted [[User_talk:Fjh#The_Robot_Visions_McQuarrie_INTERIORART_Project_:.29|descriptions]] for each piece of art, if anyone wants to suggest improvements before I start submitting them. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 15:14, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::I think you've done a pretty good job of meeting your goals there! Here are some suggestions for you:<br />
::* Too Bad! - "...glasses at left and man at right standing..." - i.e. lose the brackets.<br />
::* The Bicentennial Man - again, lose the brackets, plus:<br />
:::* Make this the canonical and the frontispiece the variant - if a publisher is going to drop one of them, it'd probably be the frontispiece - yes/no?.<br />
:::* "Robot in open shirt, holding board over its head. Pens in robot's left shirt pocket."<br />
::* frontispiece - "Same illustration as for The Bicentennial Man. Robot in open shirt, holding board over its head. Pens in robot's left shirt pocket." - the use of 'variant' could be misconstrued?<br />
:: The other nine descriptions are excellent, and I also like Ron's magazine-like title treatment. Hope this helps.<br />
:: Btw Ron, how much do we owe you for the rent? :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:16, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::No charge. My talk page is your talk page. I just appreciate you and [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] doing all this work. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:02, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::::Thanks for the suggestions Kev. Unfortunately by the time I saw them some edits had already landed. You can of course edit again. Sorry too for my long absence, but I am still working on this and eager to wrap it up. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 14:59, 15 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::No problem, thanks for the update. Like you, I'm waiting for the edits to land :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:10, 16 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::::Now that the dust has settled, may I make some suggestions, beginning with what I think might be a more elegant way of handling the frontispiece...<br />
:::::::* Change "Robot Visions" to either "The Bicentennial Man (frontispiece)" or "The Bicentennial Man (as frontispiece)" - your p.ii<br />
:::::::* Make "The Bicentennial Man (frontispiece)" a variant of "The Bicentennial Man" - your p.260<br />
:::::::* Change "Robot Visions [3]" to "Robot Visions" - your p.24<br />
::::::At present, all the McQuarrie titles carry a 1990-00-00 date, I'd like to change that to the 1st printing date {{P|203401|1990-04-00}}<br />
::::::Add image descriptions to the title pages for (your) pps ii, 24, 260.<br />
::::::Add the source of the cover art credit to your notes.<br />
::::::If you're in agreement, I'll make the changes. Thanks, Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:24, 16 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:::::::For the title of the artwork on my page ii, I would have named this "Robot Visions (frontispiece)". The naming of the artwork is dependent on where it is located, and in this instance it is nowhere near "The Bicentennial Man". It is the frontispiece of the book as a whole. That being said, I've no objection to the current variant relationship being reversed. I think what you're getting at here is that the artwork illustrates the story. If {{T|954582|The Bicentennial Man}} were the parent title, the fact that is re-used as the frontispiece to the book is a little more obvious. <br />
:::::::I agree that "Robot Visions [3]" should be simply "Robot Visions", provided that we use the "(frontispiece)" disambiguator to the artwork on page ii.<br />
:::::::I've no objections to adding descriptions or source of artist credits.<br />
:::::::While I actually agree with you about the dates, it's against ISFDB policy. The first printing has a {{T|645229|single title}} for all artwork in the book. Each of the individual artwork titles should carry the date of the first time they appeared in our records as individual titles. Right now, they should have the unknown date (0000-00-00). If the overall title in the first printing were replaced with the individual titles, then we could date them 1990-04-00. You could try contacting [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] through the email system (his preference for contact) to see if he is amenable to changing to the individual records. It looks like there is a scan of the book, so we wouldn't need him to provide us with the page numbers. Failing that, you could add them to the {{P|178053|Gollancz}} printing, and we could then use a 1990-09-00 date. I had argued previously that differences in disambiguators or title type (COVERART reprinted as INTERIORART) should carry the date of the original appearance. However, the consensus on that issue went the other way. Thus, we'll need to stick with the earliest appearance as individual titles. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:49, 16 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::::::Hello Ron, I borrowed a copy of the {{P|203401|1990-04-03 Roc hc}} and have started editing it. Also, I've just taken delivery of the {{P|178053|1990-09-13 Guild/Gollancz hc}} (yes, that's the date) - so all things will lead to the sunny uplands from here. I'm tracking all the things which need to be done and so, if you're in agreement, I can make all the necessary changes to {{P|792984|your pub}} (and {{P|278195|fjh's}} too, if he's agreeable). Once those four are in alignment, I'll go on to sort out all the other Robot Visions on the db. If I step off the lighted path, please let me know :) And thanks for all your good advice. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:15, 29 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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=== plan/progress ===<br />
* done: {{T|954582|pg. 260 art}} is a variant of {{T|645229|pg. ii art}}. {{P|792984|3rd}} and {{P|278195|4th}} printing notes already say these are the same picture.<br />
* done: add pg. 42 art and fix page numbering 82 -> 83 in {{P|278195|4th printing}}<br />
* done: add pg. 42 art in {{P|792984|3rd printing}}<br />
* done: fix page numbering 82 -> 83 in {{P|792984|3rd printing}}<br />
* done: add descriptive note to {{T|3146409|new art title}}.<br />
* rename and describe all other interior art:<br />
** [4] Robbie [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5587750 done]<br />
** [2] Introduction: The Robot Chronicles [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608873 pending]<br />
** [5] Reason [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608874 pending]<br />
** [6] Runaround [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608876 pending]<br />
** [7] Feminine Intuition [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608879 pending]<br />
** [8] The Bicentennial Man [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608893 pending]<br />
** [9] Lenny [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608897 pending]<br />
** [10] Galley Slave [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608902 pending]<br />
** [11] Christmas Without Rodney [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5608906 pending]<br />
* todo: investigate {{T|2374637|Portuguese title}}<br />
latest update [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 15:42, 15 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::::::https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258877; I added an Archive.org link in a pending edit to the second VGSF edition and cloned the 17th Roc printing for a 19th printing also on Archive.org, but "Too Bad!" was on p. 37, not p. 3. I fixed it in my edit but 17th has no PV (ChrisJ is only editor in the history) so if anyone has 17th they can fix that; editor also didn't enter Roman numeral (x) in page count so I added that in my edit, too. I'm sure 17th is the same as 19th and editor just made mistakes. 1st printing here has right number for "Too Bad!" but is missing the Roman numeral; PV, Viter, is long-gone so if anyone has that printing they can add the x if it's there, which I'm sure it is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:46, 29 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Early Asimov Book One ==<br />
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Thanks for moderating [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5582810 my submission] to add the introduction to the contents.<br />
Unfortunately I did it wrong. A {{T|3145057|new title}} was created when I wanted to link to {{T|630321|this one}}.<br />
(I have both books in front of me and the contents are the same.)<br />
I don't suppose you have an undo function for that submission?<br />
If not then I think I need to:<br />
* "Remove Titles From This Pub" to get rid of what I just added<br />
* "Import Content" to add it back, as a link to the {{T|630321|existing title}}<br />
* delete the {{T|3145057|unwanted title}}, unless it magically evaporates when nothing links to it<br />
Appreciate your patience as I learn how to do things here. [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 20:40, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:No worries. This is actually easy to fix What you want to do is go to either title record and click on the Check for Duplicate Titles tool. This will bring up a list showing both titles. Check both boxes and then click the merge selected records button. There is another page where you would be able to see conflicts and decide what to do with them. In this case, there are none, so you can just click on Complete Merge. Once approved, both publications will have the same title. For your future information, what you wanted to do (i.e. what would have done this in a single edit) is to use the Import Content tool from the publication record. You would then use option 2 to import an individual title. Let me know if you run into any problems. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:23, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:: done! that was easy, thanks [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] ([[User talk:Fjh|talk]]) 20:04, 19 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Masque of Mañana ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5584480; Does the ISBN-13 on back cover barcode count? Note says there's none in the second printing, just the ISBN-10 from the original edition. I just fixed the printing wording in the note to what it really says on the copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:46, 16 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:I'd say no. All of the copyright page and the stated ISBNs above and below the barcode show the 10 digit ISBN. That's probably Don's note, and I suspect it was added because this would have shown up on the cleanup report. However, it's long since been marked as ignored, and removed from that report. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:34, 17 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?409130; I made an edit in 2021 for this, you just made an edit, the Archive.org copy is an uncorrected proof with a higher page count (someone actually wrote in page numbers with a pen), so is it acceptable here to add a link even if it's not exactly the same or should the link be moved to the title record? Because I've seen some other proofs for various books that could be added if it is acceptable. Also, the 1982 Dell PB has been on Archive.org even longer than the proof but was never entered so I just did that but the 1 copy I can see on Amazon has a totally white cover instead of totally black. Not sure what that means; I doubt they released alternate covers for such a relatively minor work but who knows. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:37, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:I hadn't realized that the scan was of a proof, which we don't and shouldn't track in the database. I've removed the link and the data added as a result of that scan. I wouldn't add it to the title record. We generally don't track proofs here as they don't meet the definition of published. I did question the note about a publication month that was determined by examining a pre-publication scan. It seems wrong to me, insofar as anything in the proof is merely predictive and there is no way of knowing whether the schedule slipped between when the proof was issued and the book was eventually published. However, the note is likely sufficient to indicate that the publication month we have is unreliable. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:31, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - Nightfall ==<br />
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Hi Ron, could you check the title of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?24156 essay here]. Should yours be titled ''To the Reader (Nightfall)''? If so, I'm handling four other titles and can fix yours at the same time. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:29, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, it is titled "To the Reader". Please go ahead and change it with the others. Thanks! --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:40, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::Great, will do. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:24, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== 1000 Faces ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?337145; It wasn't supposed to be a mod note, it was supposed to be a note explaining that the price was changed from what was there before when someone entered the wrong price. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:03, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Why would we want that in a publication note? After the price is changed, there is no context to show that the price was ever anything else than what is shown. We don't add publication notes stating that incorrect data was changed and I'm unaware that you've ever done so in the past. That note is totally appropriate for a moderator note, but not for a publication note. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:22, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:OK, if you say so. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:31, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Ron, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:48, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Please proceed with the change. The tile with the dash (actually looks like an em dash), appears that way in the table of contents. The title page uses the colon. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:09, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Dark Music ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?285854; LCCN ID added, publisher was longer, checked FantLab and longer name's on title page so I made it so. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:31, 22 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Please don't do that this way. As I know I've explained before, if you change the publisher on the only publication by that publisher, you effectively erase the existing record for that publisher, and all the data contained therein. It's better to update the publisher record directly (or if that's a moderator only function, ask on the moderator board that it be done). I'm going to reject this edit and I'll update the publisher record as to preserve the existing notes. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:37, 22 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::So you're saying I should have added LCCN ID and then made another edit in the publisher record changing their name? Is that how it's supposed to be done? Also, I did some edits for 2 books by the same author (C. Pallen) from Manhattanville Press, the only 2 books on ISFDB from that publisher, 1 of which started with "The" and the other, published much later, which didn't, so I differed them; since there's no info on that publisher record it doesn't matter that I changed it from within the book record, right? Is that what you're saying? Also, if the Herald info had been lost it would have been a shame since I'm the one who added it in the first place. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:50, 22 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::Yes, when you change the publisher within a publication record, what you're really doing is removing the existing publisher, and adding a new one. If you remove the last publication to which the old publisher refers, the software will delete that publisher record. So yes, in this case you should have done it in two edits. For your other example, it's correct that it doesn't matter if the publisher being deleted has no additional data. If it had, what you would want to do is to merge the two publishers, which I'm fairly certain is a moderator only function. Even then, if both publisher records have conflicting data, that would have to be resolved during the merge. Hope this helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:10, 22 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Sutro ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346448; Transient, couple of titles differ from contents page but I assume you entered them as they appeared at story heads, but "Ships That Pass" says 73, not 23, in copy just added to Dalby's site; https://richarddalbyslibrary.com/collections/newest-shopify-test/products/sutro-miller-ghost-stories-sentinel-publications-1947-paperbacks. Was that an error in book or an entry error here? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:53, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Unfortunately, I no longer have that copy. Thus the transient verification. I think it's likely that the page number is our typo, given the record numbers of the individual titles. Please feel free to change that if you'd like. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:14, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::http://www.philsp.com/resources/ISFAC/t155.htm#A2781; Fixed page number and another story's date which was actually published years earlier. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:38, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Introduction for The Wit and Wisdom of Discworld ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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you verified two variants of the book (https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301290 and https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?421825). I think the title record for the introduction is very likely wrong. It should be "Introduction: Through the Wardrobe Into Discworld". At least for the ebook I'm sure the title should be as said via Amazon LookInside: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?463079. That would also remove the duplicate title with "&" and "and", as adding the book name would no longer be necessary. Also it would match the German translation title.<br />
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Can you please verify if that's true for your copy? --[[User:Stoecker|Stoecker]] ([[User talk:Stoecker|talk]]) 09:57, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Thanks for pointing this out. I've corrected the titles. I also corrected the book title of the first printing and reversed the parent variant relationship. I'm pretty sure that Doubleday wouldn't have changed between printings, and I'm sure the "and" was introduced because of the cover title. I was also able to verify the Harper trade paperback as having an ampersand for the Amazon look inside version. Oddly, the Harper eBook, uses "and". I suspect some of the other "and" printing are incorrect, but can't find evidence to switch them. In any case, I left the variant of the translation of the introduction to you. Thanks again. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:02, 25 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== J.W. ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327628; I think co-editor is this guy, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11081. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:19, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:35, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Futures Forestalled ... for Now: South African Science Fiction and Futurism ==<br />
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I was taking a look at {{P|935348|this publication}} based on [[ISFDB:Verification_requests#Futures_Forestalled_..._for_Now%3A_South_African_Science_Fiction_and_Futurism|this discussion]]. As far as I can tell, this is an essay (and not a publication) that appeared in the non-genre magazine [https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/rcwr20/34/1 Current Writing]. I wanted to check with you as the processing moderator to see if you saw something I missed. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:51, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Looking at the submission, I probably thought I was skipping it rather than approving it. I never intentionally approve submissions with a image link from a site for which we don't have permissions. I do give deference when the submitter is working from their own copy, but the image warning would have made me think this one should not be approved without contacting the submitter. The verifier was active recently. It may be worth reaching out to them to see what they thought they were adding. It looks like this may need to be converted to an essay in a non-genre magazine. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:28, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Peter Archer (I) adaptations of Oz novels ==<br />
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Hi, Ron. Recently I recognized that your Peter Archer A{{a|359605}} is distinct from others, so I revised your verified record of ''The Road to Oz'' picture book adaptation, in its 3rd printing of 2009 edition P{{p|366091}}, to distinguish the adapter as Peter Archer (I). A second edit/self-approve was necessary for the chapbook title --you probably know; I didn't.<br />
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Pursuing Peter Archer (I), I learned that that is a joint pseudonym. More descriptive disambiguators and fewer roman numerals are used here recently (CoViD era, i have noticed since returning). Perhaps "Peter Archer (pseudonym)" would be a better choice.<br />
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Byron and {{a|Kathryn Jackson}} are new to the database. (Husband and wife seem likely but I didn't find it stated.) From library records I learned that they adapted at least three Oz novels for Little Golden Books in the early 1950s. Last hour I added the other two as 1952 chapbooks. Library of Congress reports no other Peter Archer adaptations of Oz. WorldCat does not enable any such negative conclusions, as far as I know. <br />
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The number of submissions was greater than should have been. If I understand correctly, best practice is to set all toggles {Non-Genre ; Juvenile ; Novelization ; Graphic Format} and set Length if known --all for the child SHORTFICTION created as content of the new CHAPBOOK. Only then, make that one a variant. Then put parent SHORTFICTION in a series, or add title Note or Synopsis, if appropriate. Right?<br />
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How many of the 4 toggles and Length should be set for the CHAPBOOKs? Here I made the child CHAPBOOK juvenile. Then make CHAPBOOK a variant. New parent CHAPBOOK gets a Note occasionally; no Synopsis or series.<br />
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Your verified ''Road to Oz'' contains CHAPBOOK "The Road to Oz (abridged)" and SHORTFICTION "The Road to Oz". I did not name any of the four 1952 CHAPBOOKs and SHORTFICTION "(abridged)". What do you think nowadays?<br />
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Take a look at all these Peter Archer (I) records if and when you have a chance. For the next 10 days I will be away from home, and maybe away from ISFDB. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 21:18, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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:I have a larger concern about these records. My understanding is that an adapter should not be listed with an author credit, but should be reflected in the notes only. It appears these records were changed after I verified the copy. I'm going to start a new Rules and Standards discussion to ensure my understanding is correct. Regarding your question about the flags being used on CHAPBOOK titles. Non-Genre seems appropriate for chapbooks, as it would place the title record at the bottom of the author's bibliography. The other flags, to my mind appear to apply specifically to the SHORTFICTION, and not to the container (CHAPBOOK). That's just my opinion, and you could pose that question on one of the community boards to get wider input. I did add the disambiguator (abridged) to the SHORTFICTION title. This especially makes sense if the adapter is not listed as an author. It's partially to prevent the software from presenting it as a duplicate of the novel. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:33, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:: I have been away for most of this fortnight. Now I have redd that new discussion [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Adaptations_and_Abridgements Adaptations and Abridgements (at Rules and Standards)].<br />
:: For my information, does the 2015 publication update by Mhhutchins [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?2706045] show up on your report "My Changed Primary Verifications [New!]" or is the report limited in scope to "recent" updates?<br />
:::No it does not. The oldest update listed is from October 2016. This may have been when that report or the underlying data supporting it was added.--Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:06, 11 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:: I agree that the story title should be disambiguated, such as "(abridged)" or "(adapted)". I guess I would call this one an adaptation but I haven't seen it. With DougH, I would prefer to see those or similar parenthetical notations used when titles do not match. <br />
:: I'll take your suggestion concerning CHAPBOOK titles as Juvenile, etc. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 17:06, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Rohmer's Bast Pyramid Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289865; Philsp.com page for this book says J. Lombardero did the cover and I see a little JL on the lower right. I assume if his name was in the book you would have entered it so how should it be entered? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:21, 28 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Well your eyes are better than mine. I can't find the initials even with a magnifying glass. Since the artist is not credited in the book, you should add it as the canonical name, i.e. {{A|Joseph Lombardero}}. When you not the source, I'd go with "The Page of Fu Manchu". Galactic Central (philsp.com) hosts a large number of indexes and bibliographies, so giving the domain name doesn't really give enough information to identify the source. Especially, as in this case, when they are only hosting the site, rather than creating it. Good find. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:51, 28 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::OK, I made an edit, but this, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27160, reveals that the other 5 Pyramid covers done by Lombardero for Rohmer have all been entered, but as J. It's a mess, with 1 PV mentioning the artist is credited on the back cover (as J.), 1 non-PV mentioning the same thing, some not mentioning anything, etc. Only 1 has an active PV (I think), MLB, and he doesn't complain much about change these days, so if you or some other Rohmer fan wanted to look at this further I'm sure you could probably improve things. I assume your back cover doesn't say anything; if it does it would probably say J., which means my edit entering Joseph will need to be cancelled. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:36, 28 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::As I mentioned above, there is no credit on the book, which includes the back cover. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:43, 28 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== My Favorites in Suspense ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5597540; I believe the other Archive.org copy, which you worked on, is a book club edition. It has the same incomplete copyright page as the one here, https://www.ebay.com/itm/185721019229; publisher should be Random House / BCE, I think. There's also the question of where external ID's really belong since neither copy is the original edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:13, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Well, no. {{P|570083|this}} publication record is clearly for the trade edition. The link to the scan was added to the record. The record was not created from that scan. I guess that may be a scan of a book club edition, but there's not really enough evidence to say definitively. It's possible that the copyright page of the trade edition would include a printing or edition statement, or the LCCN. However, there are many examples of trade books that do not. If we were certain that the scan was for a book club edition, it should be removed from this record, but I'm not certain. Feel free to clone that record to create a record for the book club edition, if you'd like. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:32, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::Well, OK. At least there'll be another edition here soon once mine is approved. I see there's this, too, https://www.ebay.com/itm/334763510639, a third printing, so I don't know how many times they printed this thing, but I also found this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/334768776674, a first printing, so that's likely the original non-book club edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:57, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:::And thus you've proven that the title page differs for the first edition. I've removed the scan. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:01, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== PKD - Dr. Bloodmoney ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I'm about to add a 2003 3rd printing of your {{P|289298|2004 4th printing}} and I notice that your novel title is the long version. Is that correct, or should it be just "Dr. Bloodmoney"?<br />
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edit... and what about this {{P|115221|1st printing}} while we're at it? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:03, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:I've changed the record for my copy. You should contact [[User talk:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] about the first printing. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:19, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thanks Ron, I've alerted Pete to this. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:04, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Necronomicon's Reanimator ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309542; I corrected a minor mistake (On/One) but noticed that every cover I can see online says $3.95 on the lower right corner, not $3.50. SFE has a clear cover showing the price. Wrong verification or higher-priced reprint? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:30, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:{{P|283739|Chalker/Owings}} has the price as $3.50. They also note, as does {{Reginald3}} that it was reprinted in 1985 with C/O stating that there were additional reprints after. I would assume that the covers you are seeing are from later printings. Reginald also has a variation in title between the 1977 and the 1985 editions, and I'm still researching that. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:58, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::I see price is $3.95 now; what changed? Also, you probably know already but there's this, too: https://fantlab.ru/edition249786. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:38, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:::Well, after seeing that the cover included the date, and that it was listed on several sale listings described as the first edition from 1977, I determined that Chalker/Owings were probably in error about the price. Fantlab is for a different printing than the two I working with. Feel free to add it if you'd like. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:47, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Guinever's Gift ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5598537; I made some changes in case that affects your verifications since this isn't the regular edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:32, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Please don't make edits converting the publication record of the trade edition of a book into the book club edition. The record you were trying to change is clearly for the trade edition. It includes the ISBN. The linked Worldcat record has the ISBN and notes first edition. The publisher name nor the notes indicate that it is a book club edition. The only piece of data that is incorrect is the link to the scan (which I've now removed). As that link was obtained from a [https://www.worldcat.org/title/606129407 Worldcat record] which also indicates that it is a first edition, and upon your further research it is incorrect. The problem with the edit you attempted is that it effectively deletes the trad edition and replaces it with a book club edition. It also would create a record with incorrect external ids as they all refer to the trade edition. I'm going to reject your edit for these reasons. If you wish to add the book club edition, please submit a new edit cloning the existing record, which is a better approach as it doesn't delete the trade edition. Also, if you see a publication record with an incorrect scan, feel free to submit an edit removing that link with an explanation that it belongs to a different edition. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:20, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::I added LCCN, cover artist (only photo of full back flap I could find anywhere and even then it's barely legible) and cover image to trade edition; however, I can't find price anywhere since almost every auction online is for the book club, so maybe you or someone can find it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:41, 4 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Dark Carnival Date ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?8771; I added LCCN and also month/day to reg. title and cover art only to see Wiki says October, not May 10. Did you write the note about where the exact date came from? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:36, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:I did not, but it is in the LOC Catalog of Copyright Entries on page 192 [https://archive.org/details/catalogofcopyrig311libr/page/n207/mode/2up here]. That note appears to have been added by [[User talk:PatConolly|PatConolly]] on 2019-09-15. My only complaint about your edit is that LCCN numbers of that vintage generally have a dash instead of 0s. I don't know precisely when LOC stopped using the dashes, but is was at the end of the 20th century. Since the LCCN does not appear in the the book, it's a minor quibble. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:53, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::I enter LCCN as they appear on the LoC site; as long as clicking the ID link leads to the right page on their site it seems OK to me. If pre-2000 LCCN should have had dashes then somebody should have said something before countless moderators approved the hundreds/thousands of LCCN I've entered in the last 2+ years. I think I'll ask on Community if anyone can whip up something that can automatically change all LCCN entered here with 00 to -; unlikely but you never know. In this case I'll cancel my edit and enter it with the dash since this is a seminal work that should have info entered exactly right. Re: the date, it seems more right to me that a horror collection would be released in the month of Halloween, but then most of what Arkham House released was horror so it could very well have been released earlier like other books of theirs that year; just to be safe I'll remove the month changes and just do the LCCN. If anyone can say for sure what the exact date is then those can be changed later. EDIT: I added LCCN with the dash and the FantLab ID which I've somehow never entered and noticed something: there are several cover photos on their site and it's signed G. Barrows + front flap says George Barrows, yet George Burrows is entered here. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:14, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:The artist name should be changed. However, it would be best to change at the author level. I'll check with the other verifiers to ensure it's ok to change all instances. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:35, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== MoM ==<br />
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Re: your rejection, it was discussed with him/her on their board under the title "A Month of Mystery". Usually we wait until they reply before rejecting (which rarely happens because they usually agree with the changes(s) I made). I'm not clear on what you mean about deleting the trade edition, the one that I entered recently. PV edition is book club (fewer pages; https://www.ebay.com/itm/266154678368) and needs BCE in publisher to differ it from the trade edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:15, 6 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:The policy is that you should seek (and receive) agreement before you submit the edit. I know that's how I've explained it to you in the past. The current record is for a trade edition of the book that has been verified by two editors. If your edit had been approved, there would no longer be a record for the first printing of the trade edition. There would only be a record for a book club edition and the second printing of the trade edition. Even if [[User:Swfritter|Swfritter]] agreed that their copy is a book club edition, there would still be a verification for the trade edition that can't be questioned as the editor is no longer active. What you should have done, is to clone this publication record to make a record for the book club edition. Then if Swfritter has the BCE, they should move their verification to the new record. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:51, 6 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::I see. OK. I think I'll give up on this particular area of editing; way too many books were PV that have wrong info entered, in many cases this same issue of people not knowing or caring exactly what edition of the book they had, and my trying to fix them is more trouble than it's worth. There's endless other things to be done here. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:20, 6 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Stained-Glass World ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?232309; You're the last person in the edit history so I'm letting you know that when I was adding an Archive.org link I noticed that even though it says July in book and in note here someone entered the month as April. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:06, 6 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Well, since my edit added only Worldcat and Reginald numbers and neither source gives more than the year, I have no special insight as to what the date should be. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:41, 6 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Great Disciple ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?246597; I made the 1 missing story that I added to this collection a variant of author's parent name but what's the procedure to get rid of the 6 variant titles in the contents? Should I correct the titles under the alternate name as I did for the name used in the book? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:51, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:I'm not sure I completely understand what you are asking. Are you saying that there are title records in this book that are incorrect? If so, what you depends on whether they occur in any other publications. If not, then you can correct the title record. If the title is in another publication, then you should add a new title to this publication record, and make it a variant to the canonical title. You would then need to remove the incorrect title record from this publication. If you are asking about something else, please explain further. Links to the titles you think are incorrect and what you think needs updating would be helpful. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:04, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::I'm asking about the 6 stories in the link that say "variant"; as you know since you approved it, I corrected several incorrect titles but those titles are still incorrect under the alternate name. So how do I get both names to display the same correct title? Do I have to retitle them individually, merge, or something else? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:14, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:::All of the contained titles in that work are variants. However, when a variant differs in title from its parent, it is displayed with both titles. If you updated the canonical title, it would have no effect on the variant title. This makes sense as one of the purposes of variant titles is to show variations in title. Then my answer above is what you want and how you'd proceed depends on whether the variant title appears in other publications or not. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:34, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hyde & Wintz - Précieuses reliques ==<br />
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Hello Ron, could you process [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5601198 my submission] for this title that I asked in the Moderator note to not process. Marty has given me great advice which I will take post approval. I'll fix the titling, "nom" -> "Nom" and anything else I can find. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 14:07, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Sure. Done. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:16, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::Smooth running :) Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 14:26, 8 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Resurrectionist ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5601382; Isn't the procedure to unmerge when the artist name is different as I explained in my note, HefferMan vs. HefferNan? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:41, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:It's easier to remove the incorrect COVERART title from the publication that is in error. Then add a new COVERART title to the same pub. These can be done in either order, but best to explain in the notes to the moderator what is intended for subsequent edits. Of course you'll also have to build the variant relationship once the new title is created. The issue with unmerging, is that until you update the author credit on the unmerged title, it will appear as a potential duplicate both in the cleanup reports and if anyone checks for duplicates. Given that approvals are running two days behind from submissions, that creates a window where the titles could get re-merged. I will note that you could have expanded a bit in your note to the moderator. Maybe specifically stating that the author credit is different rather than listing the two names and expecting the moderator to recognize they differ. Your note left me wondering if you wanted to make a variant between the paperback and hardcover editions because of differences in trim. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:54, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Same or different authors / artists? ==<br />
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Hello, Ron! We have both [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?273536 Tania Ianovskaia] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?225848 Tatiana Ianovskaia], both did interior art related to Lewis Carroll's work, which brings up the question if they are related, or even maybe one and the same person. They both pop up in publications verified by you, for example [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?668434 here] (Tania). Would it be possible for you to take a look into the identities? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 12:26, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Hi Christian<br />
:The credits are as they appear in each book. ''The Annotated Alice'' has short biographies of the artists and mentions that Tatiana illustrated some Carroll books that were published by "Tania Press". There's also [https://www.lewiscarroll.org/2008/07/17/tanias-alice/ this post] from the Lewis Carroll Society of North America that uses both "Tania" in the header, and "Tatiana" in the body of the post. I think this is enough evidence that they are the same person, and I'm going to make the variant relationship. Despite the number of titles that we have, I'm going to make Tatiana canonical. From what I'm seeing, that appear to be how she is most often credited in books which we don't seem to have in the database, but could. Thanks for finding this. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:57, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:: Tanya/Tania is also a very common diminutive for Tatiana in Russian (it is also a name on its own of course). Which also adds to the evidence. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:04, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Minotaur Trilogy ==<br />
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Hello Ron. Regarding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?284345 this] pblication. Cound you ell me if your copy is a limited edition (of 500) signed by Charles de Lint, George Barr, Robert Collins and Mathew Hargreaves. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:21, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:It is. I'm guessing that you are asking because you want to verify the publication? If so, feel free to add notes about the limitation, or I can do that if you'd prefer. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::I will indeed be verifying it once the copy I ordered arrives from the US. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:23, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Coming Attractions in F&SF July-Aug 2015 ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of 2 PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?526483 this magazine issue]. The [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1883751 Coming Attractions] seems to have a couple of minor (*) issues:<br />
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* It's categorized as a COLLECTION, should be an ESSAY I think?<br />
* The "July-June" in the title seems a bit odd, looking at the similar entry in other issues, I'm guessing it should be "July-August"?<br />
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(* - minor, but the unexpected type is enough to break some program code I'm working on that is using the short fiction data...)<br />
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Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:48, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:13, 11 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Aldiss - Cryptozoic! ==<br />
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Hi Ron, re this {{P|633905|1st printing}}, am I right in thinking we record the "official" pub date, not when it becomes available? Gollancz.co.uk and Amazon date is 2017-11-02. What do you think?<br />
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Even worse, [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL26792277M/Cryptozoic Open Library] has 2017-03-19. Kev.<br />
:My recollection is that there have been several discussions regarding publication dates over the years. I did find a [[Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive20#Proposed Date help text revision|recent update discussion]] that points to [[Template:PublicationFields:Date|this template]] (see Discrepancies Between Stated Date and Reality). Looking at the edit history, it appears that [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] changed the date and added that note. You may want to reach out to him to find out what his thought process was. I've no objection if the date changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:28, 11 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thanks for taking the time to root out those links for me and I've left a note on his page. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 14:29, 11 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::: As a Transient verifier I'll defer to the PVs. No problem here if the date is amended. Thanks for the heads up. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] ([[User talk:PeteYoung|talk]]) 03:11, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Thanks both of you for your help. I've submitted an edit to change the date and expand the notes. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:01, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Self-Approver ==<br />
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Hello, as you're in the list of moderators handling my most recent submission, can you please comment on https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Self-Moderation_Request? --[[User:Stoecker|Stoecker]] ([[User talk:Stoecker|talk]]) 06:44, 11 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Necropolis ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1482; https://fantlab.ru/images/editions/plus/big/138662_6; While adding LCCN and FantLab ID to Arkham House first printing, which you PV, I noticed 1 of the FantLab photos says second printing on copyright page. Second isn't verified here so I don't know if seeing an actual photo would help to add anything. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:20, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I don't read Russian, is the Fantlab record for the first or second printing? Since they are showing pictures of the reprint and show no data that is inconsistent with the reprint, I would assume it's for the second printing. In that case the Fantlab id should be added to that record and not that of the first printing. If that record is for the first printing, then showing only photographs of the second printing is misleading. Please cancel your submission and add only the LCCN to the first printing. You can add the Fantlab ID can be added to the record for the second printing with any additional data that you can find from that record. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Right-click, "Translate to English". Also, I'll cancel and just add LCCN; there's already a link to an Archive.org copy of the first printing, so if anyone ever has the second printing and PV it that'll be better than relying on FantLab's usual jumble of random photos without any context. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:15, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Thieves' World Printing ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299652; What's the number line in your copy which you said is 2nd printing? Because there's one of those OL-only non-preview copies which has 2 4 6 8 0 9 7 5 3; I think that means 3rd printing, which is not on ISFDB. There are many other Asprin books which are also OL-only. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:24, 13 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:That number line, which matches the one in my copy, is for a second printing. You'll note that the lowest number in the line is "2". Sometimes publishers put the odd numbers on one side with the even numbers on the other. My understanding is that number lines were created so that the plates for a printing could be used for a subsequent printing by scraping off the prior printing number. When a number line is done in the manner of this one, it keeps the line roughly centered on the page as each number is scraped off. Hope that helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:44, 13 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, so I'll add the link to your PV. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:54, 13 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Image delete ==<br />
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Hi Ron, with reference to your approvals [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5604143 5604143] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5604180 5604180], could you delete the related, old images [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THSTRSMDSF0000.jpg here] and [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THSTRSMDST2010.jpg here] for me, to prevent them being reverted. The old ones do not have the Haldeman quote. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:53, 15 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Done. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:40, 15 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov G&S ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?741539; Copy uploaded on Archive.org in 2014, your PV in 2019, I want to add a link but the front flap price, $50.00, and the back flap month, 0388, are visible along with artist's signature on back cover (good for notes), so I want to enter those, too. Is your copy coverless, which would explain why you didn't enter those bits of info? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:27, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:My copy does have a jacket. However, the price is inked out. I suspect that it was originally given as a gift as there is an inscription on the flyleaf. I'm less sure about dating by the jacket date and have started a [[Rules and standards discussions#Dates on Dust Jackets|Rules and Standards discussion]] to see how we want to treat these dates. However, I was able to get a full publication date from the LOC copyright record, so the jacket date is moot in this case. I generally don't note the source of the artist credit when it is somewhere in the book. If we were to do this for every piece of data in the record, it would soon get unwieldy. I might have done so if the artist was identified by signature alone, since that can be a matter of interpretation. I did add a note about the copyright office, because that source is unexpected. As I approve my own edits, I don't need to let the moderator know where the data came from. It's still a good idea to add such sources in the moderator notes. Thanks for finding the scan. I've also added that to the record. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:37, 18 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Run ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5606436; The 1999 date was wrong, as should have been obvious juding by the awards which were for books published in 2000, but apparently someone entered the date long ago from somewhere and never bothered changing it; the HC is 2000, PB is 2001. When I entered the new PB edition the merged title date still said 1999 because my edit changing it to the correct date of 2000 hadn't been approved yet. That's why, so this should be un-rejected so the correct title date is shown. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:01, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:My mistake for thinking you were adding a 1999 publication. I'm still not used to the title data appearing on the publication update approval page, which was a recent change. As it was, I had originally skipped the title update as there was no explanation in the moderator notes as to why you were making the change. Even here, I'm not sure that dating based on award years is dispositive. However, I've checked Worldcat and the earliest publication they have is from 2000, so I'll go ahead and approve this one. You frequently add moderator notes, but not always. You may want to add them to more edits, especially, as in this case, when the reasons for your edit are unclear. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:51, 18 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Dance of Demons ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?8641; I've been trying to standardize New Infinities books, as I said on Community Portal, and you are the only active PV of the 5 Gord books, but while the other cover images are the same as the covers of the Archive.org copies the image for Dance of Demons has the same ID on the upper left that I mentioned re: Sea of Death on CP while the Archive.org copy, https://archive.org/search?query=dance-of-demons, doesn't, and also it has New Infinities and BSM logo while image doesn't. So it seems there are other editions out there. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:33, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I no longer have access to the book as evidenced by the fact that the verification is transient. I don't recall whether that scan was from my physical copy or not. Please feel free to upload a new cover from the Internet Archive scan. Let me know when you've done so and I can delete the old scan. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:57, 18 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Can't do that as it's dark, was photographed badly with lens flare, and has a price sticker on it. There's several copies on eBay. I'm just trying to fix the various publisher names and get them all down to 2, with Ace and without; I get the feeling after I'm done with that some new editions with those ID's on the cover will be added and then cover images can be taken care of for everything. The one New Infinities cover by Gygax that I tried to replace ISFDB's cover with gave me a warning because it's a "nicholls" which is not one of the approved subdirectories on SFE, even though it probably should be because Peter Nicholls passed away a few years ago. Maybe somebody here with some pull can convince them to grant access to more of their images. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 18 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The One Tree ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?159731<br />
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Mine says:<br />
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<li>"First Hardcover Edition: April 1982"</li><br />
<li>"First International Edition: April 1982"</li><br />
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Thus seems to indicate a publication date of April 1982 instead of 1983 for del rey's pb edition. I also spot some layout differences on the cover, so maybe this is a different edition?<br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 16:47, 18 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Spacecow<br />
:You have a different edition. Mine has "First Edition: April 1982" over "Paperback format:" over "First Edition: April 1983". There is no mention of an international edition, nor is the first edition specified as hardcover, though you could assume so as the paperback edition is specified. Hope that helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:53, 18 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: Thanks for fast reply. I'll create a new publication. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 05:54, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Cadigan - Synners ==<br />
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Hello Ron, can I suggest the pagination for the {{P|390622|1st printing}} should be xiii+475. Gaiman's introduction finishes on the last numbered page xiii before the novel. And pages 476-477 are acknowledgements and unnumbered. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:28, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I completely agree with your proposed change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:33, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::And submitted :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:51, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Topper ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269056; SFE just added a cover image and it is clearly signed "C V Farrow" on lower right corner but ISFDB image doesn't have a signature. Is there a signature on your copy or a credit for Farrow in your copy (maybe it's coverless)? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:43, 23 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:My copy lacks a dustjacket. I don't recall where I got that cover scan from. Please feel free to add the cover artist and upload a new scan if you can find a better one. The SFE one has some condition issues. [https://www.dustjackets.com/pages/books/4954/thorne-smith/topper-an-improbable-adventure Facsimile Dust Jackets] has it, but that would need to be cropped. Good find. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:07, 23 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Purcell Papers ==<br />
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https://archive.org/search?query=purcell+papers+arkham&sort=-addeddate; Another copy was just upped on Archive.org, sticker with $8.95 price on flap, new edition or just add link to old one? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:34, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I don't think this necessitates a new publication record. I added a note about the price increases from Jaffery. My recollection was that I purchased this one directly from Arkham House. However, my copy has no sticker. Personally, I wouldn't add a second scan since we already have one. However, if you feel it's important, you can go ahead and do so. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 12:16, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::I added a link to the new copy because the old one is an ex-library with sticker on front cover, library stamp on copyright page and card jacket inside the cover, etc. Also, the new copy's cover is better then the one on ISFDB in my opinion, with sharper color and more art visible on left and right and bottom (you can see the artist's signature), any objection to my uploading the new cover and replacing the one here? I also noticed there's some kind of slip inside the front flap in the new copy and someone wrote something next to the back flap that looks like 10.00, probably meaningless but noted anyway. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:25, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Yes, you can go ahead and upload that cover. That slip looks like a bookplate. Neither that, nor the handwritten note you mention need be mentioned. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:24, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::OK, uploading the cover, ignoring the rest. Just a note that I also have a pending edit adding an Archive.org link to an ex-Canadian library copy of C. Jacobi's AH collection Portraits in Moonlight, but there's no cover so not really helpful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:53, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Slipstream Journal ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I suspect there is a good reason why you added the series number to the notes {{P|394841|here}} and not elsewhere. What's wrong with doing it as these submissions? Please reject them if they are wrong... [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5621013 #1], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5621014 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5621012 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5621011 #4]. Thanks, kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:05, 27 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Kev<br />
:The reason I moved the issue number to the notes was because I was removing it from the title field so that it would conform to the standards. See [[Template:PublicationFields:Title|this help template]] 3rd and last bullets. As I didn't want to lose the issue number data, I moved it to the notes. The last time this standard was discussed, I recall that it was proposed that a new field be added for the issue numbers (volume and issue or whole number). However I don't recall if there was decision to move forward with proposal. Regardless, a [[Template:PublicationFields:Title|publication series]] should not be used for magazines or fanzines. Magazines/Fanzines are handled differently from other types of publications. For example, the rules for the title field and the fact that all issues from a given year with a given editor share a singe title record. The series for Magazines/Fanzines is handled with a title series. I'll go ahead and reject those edits. Let me know if something is unclear or if you have further questions. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:48, 27 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Holdstock - Mythago Wood ==<br />
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Hi Ron, does your {{P|604046|1st printing}} contain an excerpt? If it does, I can enter it as:<br />
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:299 * Avilion (excerpt) * (2014-11-27) * short fiction by Robert Holdstock<br />
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Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:27, 28 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It does. Thanks for finding that and you can go ahead and add it. Thanks again. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 28 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::That's good, will do :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:06, 28 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Done. I also replaced the Amazon image while I was there - if you could just check that's ok. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:34, 29 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::It's fine. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:41, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Roadmarks pub date ==<br />
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Hi Ron, your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930344 verified pub] has a pub date of 2022-00-00, although several online sources ([http://zenoagency.com/news/roger-zelaznys-roadmarks-out-today-in-the-uk e.g.]) cite 2023-01-19. Can you check? Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] ([[User talk:PeteYoung|talk]]) 04:57, 29 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The copyright pages states "This edition first published in Great Britain in 2022 by Gollancz..." I would have thought that the 2023-01-19 was a street date. However, I received my copy on January 6, in the US. I checked my emails and the bookseller indicated that it was shipped on December 29. There is also an earlier email from December 25 stating that the publisher had released the book and it was on its way to the bookseller's warehouse. So it does look like while published late in the year, it was published in 2022. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:30, 29 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Finney - The Body Snatchers ==<br />
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Hello Ron, as I'm editing a later printing of this {{P|328224|1st printing}}, I see that both Amazon and orionbooks.co.uk are listing the pub date as 2010-10-14. Would you agree to my amending the date to that. If that's ok, I'll submit. I'd also amend the Intro title date. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:07, 29 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:That's fine with me. Please amend the note to state that both the month and day are not stated in the book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:43, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Done. Just check you're happy with the notes wording :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:47, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Sterling & Gibson - The Difference Engine ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I'm editing my 9th printing of {{P|337727|this one}}. In mine the novel ends on page 383, not 384 (and there's the {{P|435107|3rd printing}} as well).<br />
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Also, there are seemingly two versions of this cover. Mine has Gibson above Sterling, the reverse of Amazon's. Hope that helps. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:16, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Corrected. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::...and I've done the 3rd printing. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:23, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Boulevard Assassin ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7270; Adventure of the Boulevard Assassin is titled The Adventure of the Boulevard Assassin in the anthology, Resurrected Holmes, where it first appeared but the title in Claremont is actually The Adventures of the Boulevard Assassin. Both editions of Resurrected Holmes are on ISFDB but only 1 story was entered in the HC and none in the TP. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 07:59, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Corrected the title. Feel free to import any missing titles to the anthology records. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:53, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::You didn't correct the title correctly. Per my note above, title in Lupoff's collection is "The Adventures of the Boulevard Assassin", original title in Kaye's anthology is "The Adventure of the Boulevard Assassin". You added "The" but not "s" in "Adventures". So, when you've done that, feel free to enter the title in both editions of the anthology and variant the collection's title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:13, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Well presumably you have a source for the contents of the anthologies, which I do not. Your source would also perhaps have the page number on which the story occurs. Perhaps you even still have the publication records open in a tab since you presumably looked at them to determine the story was missing. I see no reason to redo research that you've already done. If you don't want to take the effort to add the contents to those anthologies, I wonder why you researched them in the first place. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:30, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Regardless of whether you feel like entering the original title of Lupoff's story in the 2 anthology records, which I would think would be necessary since the later title in Lupoff's collection with the extra "s" would need to be made a variant of it, the title was entered incorrectly in the collection when it was first added here long ago and you didn't replace it with the correct title earlier today even though I said above what the correct title is. I have a pending edit adding the Archive.org link to the collection but I didn't fix the title myself because, as you've complained about many times, any changes that aren't minor, which this is not, need to be asked about first. There are 2 PV of the collection, you and some dude named Dmatlock who hasn't been here since 2010, so you are the only active PV. It clearly states in the collection where the story originally came from, so why it wasn't imported to the anthology back whenever you or somebody else entered it is a mystery. Lupoff isn't some obscure author so I would think you would want this done right. You seem to be one of the main PV of the old-time pulp stuff judging by all your verifications of Arkham House books and suchlike, so these Holmes pastiches should be right up your alley; they're not up mine. Perhaps most of the contents are non-genre but Lupoff should still be entered, being above the threshold. You obviously have a copy of the collection since you PV it, but if you really need me to point you to the anthology, here it is: https://openlibrary.org/books/OL9324870M/The_Resurrected_Holmes; they even list the contents in the OL record itself where it can be clearly seen that there's no "s" in the title and they actually list all the page numbers so you don't have to waste time actually opening the book's link. If you can't be bothered with any of this it's no big deal; I have 450 pending edits waiting to be approved. Speaking of which, I can understand why my Moonchasers edits are on hold since Feb. 18 because a TP copy still needs to be found to determine the correct title, but did any of you ever decide per your recent discussion on one of these boards what's to be done about the whole Argo/McElderry/Atheneum publisher/pub. series thing? Because I have 3 of those on hold since Feb. 23. If not, let me know and I'll just cancel all of them. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::Sorry, but demanding that another editor submit edits on your behalf, for which you've done the research and only share incomplete information seems particularly petulant. Your held edits are discussed [[User talk:Username#Title Change of One of Multiple Publications with the Same Title|here]] where you've failed to respond, and [[ISFDB:Moderator noticeboard#Atheneum publisher.|here]]. There is no consensus yet. You're welcome to join in that discussion. Regarding the numerous other edits of yours that are aging, the ones I've skipped generally fall into two categories. Either they are inadequately sourced, or active verifiers have not been notified. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:54, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::::Maybe I'm not understanding all of this correctly, but you, the PV of a collection where one of the story titles was entered wrong here, being neither the same as the title as it originally appeared in Kaye's anthology or as it actually appears in the collection (and neither the editor who entered the contents or you or anybody in the intervening years seemed to notice it was wrong), and was never made a variant of the parent title because for some reason nobody ever entered the story in the contents of the anthology, had it brought to your attention by me, as I've done with hundreds/thousands of other wrong things entered here by the many editors who came before me, that it was wrong and, instead of saying thanks and fixing the title, and possibly actually entering the story in both editions of the anthology that are on ISFDB so you could make the collection's title a variant of it, decided to argue about this. If you had not bothered to enter the original title in the anthology and just fixed the title in your PV that would have been acceptable but you didn't do that and entered it wrong even though I wrote how it appears and you should know anyway because you actually own the book. The least you could have done if you have some kind of problem with doing anything in books you didn't PV is add a note in the story's record saying "first published in Resurrected Holmes" or something similar so people would know where it came from but I don't see any note. There's nothing petulant about this, it's simply making sure a book you PV has correct info entered, which may not be required but seems like the right thing to do on a site that claims to be about accuracy; Lord knows I've corrected countless things in other books that are PV. As for the edits you skipped, they are being taken care of now and then by other mods and, as far as I can recall, every single one of them was approved, so it seems to me that your skipping them is more out of spite than because there was really anything wrong with them; it's not relevant, anyway, because the vast majority of those 450 pending edits are very recent and weren't skipped but are just laying there because of the complete disorganization here (made even worse by the recent server move) in getting edits approved in a timely manner, as can be seen by the many messages on the boards complaining that edits are taking a long time to get approved. Whatever your real problem is, I don't care. I don't like most of the people here, their childishness or anger not to mention the low quality of much of their editing, but I continue to do what I do because my personal feelings mean nothing; this is a site about books. So you can do what I suggest or not, whatever, none of this really means anything, anyway. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:03, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Silverberg's ''Needle in a Timestack'' cover art ==<br />
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Hi Ron, quick question for a side project I'm working on: How is the cover art credited on your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?834559 verified pub]? If it's just a picture agency/library and not an artist, which agency? Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] ([[User talk:PeteYoung|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Actually I have the same question for many of the recent Masterworks: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?943091 Lord Valentine's Castle], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?798420 Bold As Love], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?810578 Desolation Road], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?826915 The Best of Greg Egan], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?854301 White Queen], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?865798 Kairos], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930344 Roadmarks], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?873253 Nineteen Eighty-Four], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?873253 Life], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?873253 The Chronicles of Amber], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?908772 The Second Chronicles of Amber], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?913897 Growing Up Weightless] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?913897 The Secret of Life]. I think it's a shame the series are using so many generic stock images these days, and I'd much rather they commissioned artists. Anyway, sorry for your trouble, and thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] ([[User talk:PeteYoung|talk]]) 12:26, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::You and [[User:BanjoKev|Kev]] are killing me with the Masterwoks titles ;-) I agree with you about the stock images. Although, I generally like the covers. I'm not sure that I agree that the various companies should be listed as artists and generally don't list them for the records I enter. I know other do, and I've no objection if folks add the names to my publications. Anyway, I thing I've got them all:<br />
:::* {{P|834559|Needle in a Timestack}} - Cover image Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|943091|Lord Valentine's Castle}} - Image © Gerry Images<br />
:::* {{P|798420|Bold As Love}} - Images © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|810578|Desolation Road}} - Image © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|826915|The Best of Greg Egan}} - Illustration © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|854301|White Queen}} - Image © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|865798|Kairos}} - Image © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|930344|Roadmarks}} - Photography © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|873253|Nineteen Eighty-Four}} - Photography © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|873102|Life}} - Photography © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|873253|The Chronicles of Amber}} - Cover image Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|908772|The Second Chronicles of Amber}} - Cover image Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|913897|Growing Up Weightless}} - Photography © Shutterstock<br />
:::* {{P|916090|The Secret of Life}} - Photography © Shutterstock<br />
:::Hope that's helpful --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:20, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Thanks for the accolade Ron, just when I needed a good laugh :) (...just come along with us, Sir, and mind your head as you get in the car...). Seriously though, I don't think "generic stock images" quite describes what's happening. People who create images put them up to these image libraries in the hope that someone (a publishing house perhaps) will want to use them. I don't think anybody "at", say, Shutterstock actually creates any images - they might provide several images to Gateway and then Gateway arranges them. Sometimes the agency gets the copyright, sometimes the creator, depends on their T&Cs. Take a look at the notes in this pub, Doc Smith's {{P|700037|Galactic Patrol}}. I searched for ages on Shutterstock to eventually find the artist. In that case, one artist created the whole image, but in, say, your White Queen, there are likely two elements to that picture, created by "artists" but the credit goes to Shutterstock. Anyway, that's my 2p, I hope you don't mind me jumping in. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:46, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Le Guin - The Left Hand of Darkness ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I'm [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5626362 submitting] an edit to this {{P|602865|1st printing}}. Would you take a look and let me know if you are agreeable to the essay title changes in particular, as well as the addition of the 3rd essay. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 00:32, 2 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:My first impression is that I don't really agree with the title changes for the essays. To me, that really looks like a simple author credit for each essay. Also, if we do change the title, I'm not sure is we still need the parenthetical disambiguator. However, they are also singed at the end. I'll add an inquiry on the Community Portal to see what other folks think, and hold the edit pending that discussion. The rest of the edit is fine. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:44, 2 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for putting that up to the portal Ron, it's cleared up something that's been nagging at me for a while. I've cancelled the original and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5628098 resubmitted], amending the titling errors. Thanks again, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:40, 4 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Nailed By the Heart ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5625372; I'm not sure what happened there, but I made another edit with right link; however, while doing that, I noticed that the original Brit HC/PB and the 2010 edition have totally different art and yet Steve Crisp is credited on the back of both. Since his ISFDB page stops in 2005 (except for a 2017 cover that may or may not be original) and the 2010 art doesn't look like his usual style and is just the usual modern mass-market stock photo, I think his credit there is in error and was just reprinted from the old editions. But who knows, just mentioning it in case anyone knows and can unmerge if he really did both or delete his credit from 2010 if he didn't do that one. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 14:59, 5 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Union ==<br />
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Hi Ron, <br />
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I was working on forthcoming books and Fixer found the new Dragon Soul Press anthology which got me to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?938978 this record]. After fixing quite a lot of issues which one would expect to be caught during moderation (see [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:JarlFrank#Union my message to the user]), I noticed that you moderated but never edited it after that - probably an oversight so just heads up - especially as it is a new editor who won't learn how to do things if we do not help them :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:47, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Sorry about that. I did miss the poorly formed suffix and the amazon link. I noted the format was not entered, and thought that odd, but I generally give quite a bit of deference to primarily verified submissions. Regarding the add this ASIN. I thought our policy was to not add those when an ISBN is present. I did catch a similar error on another submission and advised the submitter that there is no need to add a link as Amazon links are auto generated in the sidebar. My understanding was that is the same reason for not adding ASINs when there is and ISBN. In any case, I'll try to be more careful going forward. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:02, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: This is an ISBN starting with 979. These do not form their ASINs by getting the ISBN10 as these do not exist - so the side link cannot create a link for these books as the side bar (try to click on it to see what happens and compare that to a 978 ISBN book ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?936640 for example]) and the Amazon URLs in general use the ASIN and not the ISBN so switching the bar to ISBN13 is not an option. So for books with 979 ISNBs, we generally also want the ASIN (it always starts with B) so we can have a link to Amazon. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:08, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I'm getting a valid link in the sidebar for the US Amazon from the book with the 979 isbn and it does not appear to be forming it from the ASIN external id (<nowiki>https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_66%3A9798376838440&tag=isfdb-20</nowiki>). I also tried a random publication {{P|911048}} with an ISBN starting with a 979 and no ASIN. Again, the Amazon US sidebar link if fine. My recollection is that I noticed the comment discouraging adding ASINs in a conversation on one of the boards. It was some years ago, and I don't believe it is documented anywhere, so perhaps I was mistaken. Perhaps someone was trying to move traffic to the sidebar links to that we would get the commission on the sale. I believe that is moot now as I recall Amazon discontinued that program, although we still have a disclaimer on the links. In any case the sidebar links seem to be fine. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::: It drops you into the search screen with the whole book selected but NOT into the edition as a 978 ISBN link or an ASIN link does. We do not record ASINs which are ISBN10; if they start with B, we always record them. And that had been documented [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PublicationFields:ExternalIDs here]: "Look for the "ASIN" line in the "Product Details" section of the page. If the ASIN matches the ISBN10 of the book, do not record it. Most ASINs will start with B but for some older books, there may be exceptions." for a long time. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:52, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, May 1959 ==<br />
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For your verified {{P|61294|The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, May 1959}}, I updated the title of the story on page 5 from "Tenth Time Around" to "Tenth Time Round" based on the [https://archive.org/details/Fantasy_Science_Fiction_v016n05_1959-05_PDF/page/n3/mode/2up Internet Archive scan]. This seemed pretty straightforward based on the scan, but let me know if on the off chance there were two versions of this magazine and we need updates. I am posting this message on all active verifiers' pages. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Venture Science Fiction [UK] ==<br />
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Our [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?29404 Venture Science Fiction &#91;UK&#93;] records contain a publication note of "Editor from Tymn & Ashley [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?88429 here]." Where the here is a title record link to {{T|88429|The Inscrutable God}}. I am assuming this was supposed to be a publication record link as the corresponding publication record number is {{P|88429|Science Fiction, Fantasy and Weird Fiction Magazines}}. Since you have verified that publication, would you mind checking if that is the correct source? If so, I will update the records to fix the link. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:54, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, Tymn & Ashley list Ronald R. Wickers as the editor while also noting that he is not credited in the magazine itself. Neither {{Tuck}} nor Miller/Contento list an editor. As an aside here, it may be worthwhile to create a [[Help:Using Templates and HTML in Note Fields|template]] for Tymn and Ashley to be used in these instances. A few days ago, I thought about asking if one could be created for {{Series|36285|Chalker/Owings}}, but there are several editions of that, so it's hard to link to a specific publication. I've no idea how difficult the notes field templates are to create. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:29, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks. The uncredited part matches the one issue whose scan I found on Internet Archive. I will update the records. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 07:56, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Naomi Kanakia ==<br />
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Am I to understand that she needs to publish 50 more titles before isfdb respects her name change? [[User:Pnppl|Pnppl]] ([[User talk:Pnppl|talk]]) 17:39, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:No disrespect is intended. We are a bibliographical database and thus we reflect what has been published. The canonical name of an author is not meant to imply that it is the author's preferred name nor their legal name. It is simply the name by which they are most commonly known in genre publications. In this case Naomi has had many more works published using the name Rahul than she has as Naomi. Please see [[Template:AuthorFields:CanonicalName|this help template]] and [[ISFDB:FAQ#How does the ISFDB deal with author name changes?|this FAQ]] for further information on how we determine canonical name. I hope this helps you to understand why her bibliography appears as it does. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:26, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Is there any way I can propose a change of policy? [[User:Pnppl|Pnppl]] ([[User talk:Pnppl|talk]]) 20:56, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::You absolutely can. Changes have been proposed before and I looked for the prior discussions while composing my original response but was unable to find them. The place to propose policy changes is [[Rules and standards discussions]]. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:02, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Thanks! [[User:Pnppl|Pnppl]] ([[User talk:Pnppl|talk]]) 21:06, 13 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Summon, Bind, Banish ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?323471; I have a pending edit with Archive.org link, Mamatas story has commas, already on ISFDB, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=banish&type=All+Titles, fix/merge needed. I discovered this while adding links to stories from Apex Magazine's online days, which seem to have disappeared from the modern web and only exist as archived pages now. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:41, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. I also removed the comment about the story's first appearance in ''Apex'' as its appearance in ''Bandersnatch'' predates the magazine publication. By the way, [http://www.philsp.com/homeville/fmi/j00/j00046.htm#A164 FictionMags] indexes the online version of ''Apex'' if you're interested. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::I've been using the index to add stories that were originally published somewhere else before Apex; once I got to the Mamatas story they apparently started breaking stories up into separate pages, the old click-bait scheme, and the story after Mamatas, by Jay Lake, doesn't have the second page archived, so I think I'm done with that. Added nearly 2 dozen, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:09, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== MFFS ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5644683; There's a 6-page unsigned intro that's not mentioned here, in case you think it needs adding to contents/mentioning in notes. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:17, 24 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Added. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:48, 24 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Bruno E. ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?947748; I own an edition of the American book but you just entered the original Brit edition; problem is, as was discussed here by some people not so long ago, the cover artist was credited differently sometimes. In this case, per back cover, it's Bruno Ellitori, which is a variation not yet on ISFDB and judging by text search there's no other book on Archive.org with that particular spelling. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:30, 25 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I got that from one of the secondary sites. Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:17, 26 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov - The Thunder-Thieves (afterword) ==<br />
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Hello Ron, could you have a look at {{P|29759|this title}}. Is that correct or should it be "Afterword (The Thunder-Thieves)" ? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:17, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Kev -<br />
:I'm going to stick with the current titling. Both the poem and the subsequent essay are under a single title page (on page 239), i.e. the essay does not have a separate title. It's much longer than the poem. Thus I think using the same title as for the poem with a disambiguator is closest to how it appears in the book. I'll add a note to the essay explaining that it is not separately titled. I'll assume that the paperback presents these in the same manner. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:35, 29 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::That's helped me be clear as to its identity. The titling stood out a mile on Asimov's summary page amongst all the "Afterword (piece name)" formats.<br />
::and btw, in case it got lost in the mix, I've added to the "Robot Visions" thread, above. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:01, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wolf Leader ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5648658; Changes OK? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:49, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:They're fine. I've approved the edit. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:38, 29 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Ghost Summer Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1918982; Made some edits for T. Due's collection, bunch of stuff was wrong, I didn't change the artist because you PV an art book that included the cover, real artists are Sten Schneider and Vesperity-Stock. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:53, 29 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The cover in the WFC Souvenir Book does not have an artist credit. We don't use "uncredited" for artist credits when the acutual artist is known. I've updated both art records with the correct artists. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:51, 29 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Avati ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5650644; Barcode on back says 3999, not $39.95. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:29, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:29, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Sherlock Holmes vs. Dracula: or the Adventure of the Sanguinary Count, by John H. Watson, M.D. ==<br />
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[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287233 Your pub] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?406844 this pub] look like duplicates. Any concerns about me merging the newer one into your entry? [[User:Taweiss|Tom]] ([[User talk:Taweiss|talk]]) 22:25, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:They are different. Mine lacks the first edition statement mentioned in your edition and is presumably a later printing. It does have the 1978 date on the title page. The publication month is from an unknown source and was added to the record prior to my verification. In any case, they shouldn't be merged. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:04, 6 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== GToFaI ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?363044; This, https://archive.org/details/bwb_T2-FPH-238, says 3rd on copyright page, you say 2nd. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 14:48, 9 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:52, 9 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Monter - Monster? ==<br />
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Hello Ron, is {{T|2092130|this title}} really Monter? Could you transliterate the hyphen while you're there please. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:28, 9 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:53, 9 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Bride of Alderburn ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/external_id_search_results.cgi?ID_TYPE=12&OPERATOR=contains&ID_VALUE=GB; I just made an edit with Archive.org link to Bride and saw the GB WorldCat ID; those 2 linked above are the only ones with GB here, both entered by you, so should they be some other ID, not WorldCat? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:10, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, that should have been BNB. Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:16, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:OK, but does the other one, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?941692, need fixing, too? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:22, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Sorry, but it's rather confusing when you paste bare urls in the wiki. Perhaps individual links to each publication with either wiki markup (the link tool in the toolbar), or using the [[Template:P|publication template]] would make your posts easier to understand. I looked at this while at work, so I didn't have time to deal with it for more than a moment. My recollection is the link returned a single publication which I fixed. The other one is now fixed. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:33, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I think the problem might be your computer setup, something I vaguely remember us discussing a long time ago when you complained about something similar, because on my end clicking the link I provided showed both Bride and the other book just fine, and later after you fixed Bride but before you left your first response here the link showed just the other book. After you fixed the other book it now says "No matching records found". So all of that makes perfect sense to me. My writing "the 2 linked above" and "only ones" and "both" and "they" was probably a good indication that I was talking about more than 1 book. Jargon about "wiki markup" and templates is pointless because I'm no computer expert, just a regular person, so I have no idea what that stuff means. Perhaps part of the problem as to why you made these ID mistakes and all the countless others I've had to fix or asked you to fix is the same reason you didn't notice my clear message about 2 books, because you're doing this while you're preoccupied with work and not giving it your full attention. I'm not sure why you didn't just wait until you were done with work before you looked into this issue. There's no hurry, obviously, since I currently have nearly 1,300 pending edits awaiting approval. Gratitude, not attitude. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:04, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Since you are editing a wiki, I assume that you are comfortable with the the terms used in editing wikis. In fact you you use the signature tool in your posts. However, you balk at using the link tool which is in the same toolbar (or perhaps you are hand typing the signature markup, but refuse to hand type the link markup). The link to the publication template that I provided explains how to use it with examples. I'm not sure what the number of pending edits has to do with this discussion. In any case, I've given you suggestions on how to better communicate and make your posts easier to read. If you can't be bothered to make your posts more readable, misunderstandings will continue to happen. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:09, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::I'm tired of talking about this. I used advanced search to find books with WorldCat ID that included "GB", 2 results were found and my link above showed both books, and both were no longer there after you fixed their ID. Simple, and even if your computer didn't allow you to see that my several uses of plural terms in my message made it obvious there were 2 books with wrong ID, so your "recollection" of the link only showing 1 book makes no sense. So my point about the reason for all these mistakes and often further problems when I ask you to fix them being due to you doing other things at the same time and not giving ISFDB your full attention seems likely. Obviously work is more important, this stuff is unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but my suggestion somewhere on this site recently to a mod that the webmasters, whoever they are, should look into "hiring" more mods seems logical, since many here now are either too busy with work/moving/hospital/doing background coding on the site instead of approving edits, or have seemingly lost interest/are angry at one or more people here, thus the enormous backlog of pending edits with mine being the majority because I usually do so many every day but also several hundred from other editors. Editors don't have to do things exactly the same way you do them; the problem isn't me adding a URL link because I've done that in hundreds of other messages and people seem to see them just fine, the problem was not entering those ID properly and then not reading my message properly about fixing the ID because you were rushed at work. You and the others here have certainly never had a problem since I started here a few years ago complaining about every little mistake I make so you shouldn't have a problem when I do the same. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:55, 10 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Delaware ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5649495; https://delaware.gov/artistroster/artistProfile.php?aid=365. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:48, 11 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Well, it would have saved a lot of time if you had documented your source in the original edit. I can approve this edit if you agree to add the additional link, or if you'd prefer you can enter this edit again with both links. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 11 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::I didn't think it was necessary because when I typed "born Delaware Margiotta" on Google the first site that came up was the one above, so your "but I can't find anything stating it is her birth place" doesn't make sense; where do you search? I've been told, or someone else was told, I can't remember, that it's only required when the person's info is not publicly available and comes from a private or not-easily-found source; this couldn't be more easily found. So approve it, if I remember I'll add the link, if not you can add it or nobody can, who cares, I'm tired of these constant rejections and complaints for no legitimate reason except personal ones; my time is just as important as yours. P.S. I also left a message on CP about the Hitler cover you rejected because the cover artist is almost certainly wrong, not being mentioned in the book and by an artist who died long before Hitler was known by anyone, so hopefully someone will find out which cover the artist really did and that rejection can be un-rejected, too. Just because SFE says it's by him means nothing; they, like all other online sites including this one, are unreliable and from personal experience they've been wrong many times before. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:17, 11 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, I'm not willing to rely on whether you remember to fix the record, so please re-enter the edit with both links. I stated in the rejection message that I couldn't find her birth place in the source you did add in the edit. You've been asked several times to site your sources. There isn't an exception if the source can be found in Google. I'll also point out that moderators can approve more edits if you don't require them to do extra work. You've stated that edits aren't approved as quickly as you like. Well, properly sourcing your edits would be one way you could speed up their approval. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:29, 11 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus Award category names ==<br />
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Hi, I'm pinging you as the most prolific - by an order of magnitude ;-) - creator of award records. I've just added the last of this year's Locus top 10 nominees, and I noticed a couple of things that I was a bit puzzled by.<br />
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I'm using [https://locusmag.com/2023/04/2023-locus-awards-top-ten-finalists-2/ this page on their site] as reference. Amongst the category subheadings, it has "PUBLISHER" and "ILLUSTRATED AND ART BOOK", so I've added those respectively as [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_category.cgi?367+1 Best Publisher] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_category.cgi?332+1 Best Art or Illustrated Book]. The latter isn't an exact match for what's on that locusmag.com page, but seemed closer than [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_category.cgi?331+0 Best Art Book]. Most recent publisher entries have been recorded under [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_category.cgi?370+0 Best Publisher/Imprint], rather than "(Best) Publisher" which is what I've used for this year's entries.<br />
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Do you have any recollection about what the correct names for these are, or what the definitive reference might be? I've not looked at previous year's pages on locusmag.com - and I haven't seen a copy of the mag since before the pandemic - but I see that the SFADB entries for [http://www.sfadb.com/Locus_Awards_2022 2022] and [http://www.sfadb.com/Locus_Awards_2021 2021] have different names for this pair of categories for those 2 years, which doesn't match what what we have. <br />
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Thanks for any thoughts you might have. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:21, 13 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Hi ErsatzCulture -<br />
::I don't know that we have any documented standards for naming award categories. The way I've approached it previously is that minor differences in category names should probably be ignored (e.g. "Science Fiction Novel" vs "Best SF Novel") My theory is that there is usefulness in looking at a category as a whole and seeing all the years for that category together. That being said, when a category name changes enough to denote something new is included (for locus see the non-fiction, related, art categories). I've also let previous categories remain as they are unless I have a good reason to believe they should be changed. As to what the authoritative source for the category names for Locus, I would refer to the magazine where they are presented. I skimmed through this years issues and I don't see the ballot for 2023. I did find last July's issue with the winners announcement and the categories are nearly identical to what we have for 2022. The differences being "Best Non-Fiction Book" (mag, winners) vs "Best Non-Fiction" (mag, full results) vs "Best Non-Fiction" (us); "Best Book Publisher" (mag, winners) vs "Best Publisher/Imprint" (mag, full results) vs "Best Publisher/Imprint" (us). The 2022 ballot (top ten) is [https://locusmag.com/2022/05/2022-locus-awards-top-ten-finalists/ here]. Maybe my memory about standardizing categories is faulty as last years seem to match the categories as listed in the full results exactly.<br />
::Clearly, Locus can alter the names between ballot, winner announcement and full results. I would probably stick with what we used last year to start with and make adjustments when the full results are published, if they seem necessary. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:43, 13 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::: Thanks for response. I'll leave these two 2023 categories as-is for now, and if they get changed when the final results are announced, I guess they can/should be changed then.<br />
::: One minor positive side-effect of this is that I've dusted off some incomplete code I wrote ages ago to report on when award categories were run, and fixed it. This has highlighted that there are gaps in our data:<br />
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$ ./award_categories.py -W "Locus Poll Award" -c "publisher"<br />
= Locus Poll Award =<br />
* Best Book Publisher [1972-1974, 1980-1990, 1993-1999]<br />
* Best Book Publisher/Imprint [2000-2003]<br />
* Best Publisher [1977-1978, 1991-1992, 2023]<br />
* Best Publisher - hardcover [1975-1976]<br />
* Best Publisher - Paperback (old) [1975-1976]<br />
* Best Publisher/Imprint [2004, 2009-2022]<br />
# There are no awards on record for the years 1979, 2005-2008<br />
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SFADB doesn't have anything for 1979, but does have data for 2005-2008. If no-one else beats me to it, I'll add those 4 years at some point, but I've had my fill of Locus right now, so it won't be for a week or two at least... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 12:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== August Derleth ==<br />
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We seem to have duplicate entries for {{T|1009500|August Derleth}}. The version with less information (no contents, no cover, etc.) has your secondary verification for Reginald3. It looks like that should be moved over to the more complete record and the less complete one deleted. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 07:53, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Done. Thanks for finding this. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:01, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== 2021 Locus Poll Award ==<br />
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A quick question about [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_details.cgi?69581 this Locus Poll award] which you added in 2021. The Note field currently reads "For Inclusivity, Representation, and Education". However, the [https://locusmag.com/2021/06/2021-locus-awards-winners/ announcement reads] "Amplifying diverse voices". Would you happen to remember where "For Inclusivity, Representation, and Education" comes from? TIA!<br />
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Also, as an FYI, I have changed the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_details.cgi?78672 2020 award] based on Dave Langford's update -- see the Note field for details. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 12:23, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I got that language from the [https://file770.com/2021-locus-awards/ File 770] announcement, which is where I usually learn about award news. I've no objection to changing the note. I can check later in the magazine if you'd like. With the research done for [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]]'s question above, we've determined that the locus.com and magazine publications can be slightly different. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:32, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks for the clarification! Both announcements look plausible, so I have updated the Notes field of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/award_details.cgi?69581 our award record] to reflect what they say and added links. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov - Robot Visions ==<br />
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Hello Ron, just letting you know I've completed all the edits affecting {{T|517297|the main title}} and which arose from our [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Robot_Visions earlier conversation] above. If you have time have a look. Please let me know if you find anything amiss. I'll drop a note on Fjh's page to let him know too. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:10, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Hi Kev <br />
:There is one issue that I have with the changes now that they're done. That is the title of {{T|3175000|The Bicentennial Man (frontispiece)}}. As I explained in my post at 18:49, 16 April 2023 (EDT) in the above thread, I feel fairly strongly that the title of this should be "Robot Visions (frontispiece)". As I argued above, the frontispiece is for the collection as a whole, not just for the story "The Bicentennial Man". There's a lot in that topic, so perhaps you missed that point. Other than that, things look good. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:10, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Good, I'm glad you found that, it will look much better. I've submitted the change :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 22:14, 15 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::And...fixed. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:57, 16 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Looks good. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:59, 16 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Teresa T. ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401191; Tunaly is credited as Tunaley elsewhere on ISFDB; mistake or variant? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:23, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It was a typo and I've fixed it. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:36, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Stapledon - Odd John ==<br />
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Hello Ron, you are joint PV for the {{P|373991|1st printing}}. I'm editing a 3rd printing of this edition and yours is the only one extant to clone from. I notice a couple of things that don't seem quite right and propose the following for your copy (which will also apply to mine):<br />
* Pages change x+208+[2] to x+208. There isn't any "...additional content in these pages that requires the creation of a content record" (from the help).<br />
*:I agree completely. I think these bracketed numbers are frequently misused. If Pete agrees, please go ahead with this change.--Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:43, 20 May 2023 (EDT) <br />
* Title record {{T|1403847|1403847}}. Change date 2011-03-00 to 2012-03-00. This looks like a simple typo - I can find no reference to a 2011 Roberts Introduction.<br />
*:Sure. I'm not sure how that was introduced as new content takes the date of the container unless specifically specified. Perhaps the publication record was dated incorrectly and subsequently changed.--Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:43, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
* Apart from that I have an image to replace the Amazon one and can add the publisher (Gollancz / Orion).<br />
*:I'm fine with the publisher change. The Amazon image matches my copy and is one of the stable URLs. I've no issues with changing it as long as it still matches.--Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:43, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
What do you think? If you agree, I can make the changes while I'm processing my 3rd printing. I've posted the same to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Stapledon_-_Odd_John Pete's page]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:01, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Responses inline above. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:43, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks Ron, I'll wait for Pete's reply. On the covers, to reassure you, I'm always very careful with replacements, checking for text alignment and looking for all the things that I know publishers (Gollancz in particular) like to fiddle with, sometimes to only small degrees :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:06, 20 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Pete has agreed to the changes so I'll submit them before I clone for my printing. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:31, 24 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Now I'm submitting the changes, I see the [https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/titles/olaf-stapledon/odd-john/9780575072244/?v2=true Orion website] gives 2012-03-08 as the published date. Are you happy with me amending that? Sorry I didn't spot it earlier. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:40, 11 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::That's fine. You can proceed. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:37, 11 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Haldeman - The Forever War ==<br />
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Hello Ron, you're PV2 {{P|500093|here}}. On the title record page for the {{T|847613|Author's Note}} I can't find the origin of the 1997-08-00 date. Could you sleuth it please? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:41, 22 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I can't with complete certainty. However, my edition does list 1997 as one of the copyright dates. Further, the August 1987 {{P|40063|Avon edition}} has the following note in its Locus1 listing: "According to the author’s note, this is the “definitive” version." Further still, Locus1's note for the 1997 {{P|40062|SFBC edition}} states "This has a 1997 copyright, but lacks the author’s note of the “definitive” version published last month by AvoNova...". Given those statements, I think we could safely import the note into the 1997 Avon edition. I'm certain that the record was added prior to my verification. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:03, 22 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::There's lots of editions available and while trying to add a link to original '74 St. Martin's which ironically is the most recently uploaded, https://archive.org/search?query=1974+forever-war+joe-haldeman, it turned out it's a book club (?) edition which is missing the "first printing" on copyright page, so it seems it's an edition not on ISFDB. I just added an eBay link with a note, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5671796. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:21, 22 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Ron, I'll import the Author's Note into the August 1987 {{P|40063|Avon edition}} and add a note referencing the Locus1 entry and your {{P|500093|11th printing}}. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:34, 26 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Destiny Times Three (Part 1 of 2) ==<br />
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For "Destiny Times Three (Part 1 of 2)" in {{P|57566|Astounding Science Fiction, March 1945}}, it looks like the credit should be Fritz Leiber, Jr. (instead of Fritz Leiber) per the Internet Archive scan. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:08, 23 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:You are correct. Fixed. Thanks! --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:43, 23 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Best Tales of Hoffmann ==<br />
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https://archive.org/search?query=best-tales-of-hoffmann&sort=-addeddate; Edition with $2.00 on cover just uploaded, $6.95 in your PV high for 1967, you may want to adjust price/add other editions using this info. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:02, 25 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Actually, mine is priced at $3.00 which is very difficult to see. I've cloned the record we have for my edition and another for the $6.95 edition. I've removed the price and the ISBN from the 1967 edition. It's unlikely that it had an ISBN then. The archive scan with the yellow cover is a good candidate for the first printing, but we can't say for sure. Unfortunately, Dover didn't go in much for providing printing history or marking first editions. It looks like they may have gotten better at some point. Tuck is the only verified secondary source which has a price ($2.50) which disagrees with the $2.00 price of the scanned copy. Whether Tuck is in error, or the price was reduced at some point requires additional research. Thanks for pointing this out. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:40, 26 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::The 1968 Budrys review was easy to find and has the $2.00 price. I think that's enough evidence that the scanned copy is the first edition. I'll update accordingly. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:46, 26 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tragedy of Macbeth ==<br />
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Please see [[ISFDB:Community Portal#Macbeth]]. We currently have a 1988 Shakespeare review linked to a 1997 retelling by Coville. You have verified one of the pubs containing this review so would you mind checking if this should linked to the original Shakespeare story instead? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:07, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Strugatsky - The Snail on the Slope ==<br />
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Hello Ron, with regard to our PVd {{P|730349|1st printing}}, I propose changing the coverart credit to Getty Images. It's my understanding that, as a rule, we don't credit designers. Someone authored this image and made it available through Getty and the copyright is with Getty. To credit Getty with authorship is not to say they created the image, if that makes sense. If you think my reasoning is sound, then the {{T|2645121|title record}} will need amending. What do you think? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:36, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Well, it clearly shouldn't be Almeida. Personally, I don't ordinarily like crediting Getty who, as you say, is the copyright holder and not the cover artist. I'm uncomfortable with it for that reason, though I know others have added credits that way. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:21, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::I find it easier to think of the photo-stock library as the intermedial link between our credit and the artist responsible. I also used to feel ambivalent about adding a library as credit until I went looking on Shutterstock's site for the artist who created the works that Gollancz used for their Golden Age Masterworks series. Using their image search function I found {{P|700041|Tithi Luadthong}} and all the rest of her works for the series. My reasoning now is that, <i>where the art merits it</i>, we ought to point the way to finding the actual identity - if someone has the time or inclination. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:09, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I think it would be fine to include this in the notes, but I don't think it should be added as the cover artist. I did a bit of searching to see if this had been discussed, and there are discussions including [[Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive14#Entering authors as credited--complex attributions|this discussion]] on the R&S board from 2016. There is also [[User talk:BanjoKev#Getty Images and similar|this one]] from your own talk page. The consensus seems to be that these sorts of credits should not be used in the cover artist field. However, as I said, they are fine in the notes. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:51, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Ha. I'd completely forgotten about that thread on my own page. Doh. Muchas for finding that, and the one on the Rules & Standards page is very good. Is deleting the Almeida at title level the best way to do this? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:44, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::I'll go ahead and take care of it. You can either remove the title from the publication or blank out the name in the publication record. Either way will result in an orphan title record (for the COVERART) which will have to be deleted. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:36, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::::Thanks! While you're on Almeida, there's another which may be suspect, your PV {{P|671399|1st printing here}}. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 22:28, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::::That credit states "Illustration by Tomás Almeida", so I think we're good. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:04, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Cosmos ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?33498; I just added an Archive.org link in an edit to this, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?147141, and copyright page says published by Dorchester so should publisher be re-named to what it is in the first link I provided here? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:41, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I wouldn't say so. It's only on Cosmos on the title page which is an imprint of Wildside. You need to check with the other primary verifiers who are all active. If they wish to change it, I won't object, but I don't think it's necessary. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:19, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Visitants ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677110; Intro is "of Sorts". --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:20, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Corrected. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:00, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Held Submissions ==<br />
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Ron, we're both holding submissions pending a resolution [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Atheneum_publisher. here]. The discussion appears abandoned. Based on the title page, I disagree with the submissions I'm holding. What what are your thoughts? We should apply whatever is decided to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?76275 these] as well. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:51, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I just re-read the thread, and my sense is that the consensus was that Argo would be listed as a publication series rather than listed as an additional imprint of the publisher. Some of the ones I'm holding are for changing "Aladdin / Atheneum" to " Aladdin / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum" which doesn't seem as clear cut. I'll drop another note on that thread and see if we can kick-start the discussion to reach a final consensus. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:06, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== FantLab Artist Image ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5678984; I don't know what happened with this, whether it was my error or some change they made between my edit and approval, but I made another edit with the correct image. Is there a way to check ISFDB for any other "missing" FantLab images which show that cartoon image? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Advanced search allows you search authors by author image (i.e. the URL). That would find any where the URL is identical. There are other operators (starts with or ends with) that may be useful if you can determine if there is a pattern in the URLs for the cartoon images. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:45, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Brunner - The Shockwave Rider ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I just checked [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5671070 this submission] but I can't find that I did in fact tell you of the changes. I'm sorry for that oversight. I'm expanding the notes and, of course, preserving your original data. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 14:56, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:No worries. Since I was the approving moderator, I gave it a look before I approved. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:52, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Phew! Thanks. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:47, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Jimgrim Artist ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5679967; I saw the name and added it. SFE only credits Ricca for this cover but they did mainstream covers, too. Maybe a first name for the artist will turn up. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 14:03, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Note Date ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5648635; Is my note fix correct? If so, this can be un-rejected. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:16, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I'm good with that change. However, there are two other primary verifiers who are active and I don't see that you've asked them as well. All primary verifiers need to be consulted before changing data on their publications. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:08, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::If you're referring to MartyD and Chavey, 1 is a transient PV so they wouldn't have a copy to check and the other hasn't responded to anyone on their page for a year. So you can decide what to do with this. I'm just trying to get the several rejections of my edits today un-rejected (although 2 were rejected and then my info was entered by a mod in their own edits without letting me know about it once they realized they had rejected mine incorrectly). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:30, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::A transient verification doesn't excuse you from the requirement to ask before submitting the edit. Some years ago, transient verifications were the only way to add an additional verifier after all of the limited slots (there were 5 as I recall) were taken. [[User:Chavey|Darrah]] is still active and has made edits as recently as May 21 in the main database and on April 7 in the Wiki. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:41, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::So I should ask a transient PV to check a copy they don't have anymore so they can say, "I don't have a copy and can't check"? And Chavey, or Darrah as you call them, may still make edits but doesn't respond to messages on their page, which I know because I see 37 messages from me and the last one they answered was in May of 2022 and even that was answered nearly 2 months after I asked. So I don't see the point in asking about a note that someone, probably not Marty or Chavey judging by edit history, made a minor mistake in by entering the wrong year. Forget it. Nobody else ever noticed or fixed it in the years it's been there so obviously it's not really important. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:55, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Animal Ghosts ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?168962; This book is already on ISFDB. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:23, 2 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:18, 3 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== NtSNtS ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5682165; There's a foreword dated 1978, apparently original to this edition, that could be added and other prices on back cover are blacked out so those could be added, too, assuming your copy has the foreword and visible prices. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:33, 3 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Added. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:38, 3 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Edit History Glitch? ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23; Chavey's 2014 edit is indented; is that a problem that should be fixed or does it not matter? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:19, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:While I am a programmer, I don't work in Python and thus I don't work on our software. You might try asking [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]]. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:22, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Actually, I can tell why it's happening. The edit question added HTML to the title of the record, which is being interpreted when the affected title is displayed in the edit history. Specifically, the title was updated to make it into an unordered list of one item, which the browser interprets with an indent and a bullet. If you look at the raw XML for that edit, it becomes clear. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:27, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Kirsch, et al - Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963 ==<br />
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Hello Ron, re this [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pub_history.cgi?928819 edit history], I'm submitting a correction to the date (1894-1980 -> 1894-1963) per the Reginald3 entry. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:38, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:As you are the only one in the edit history, and you have Reginald3, I'm hoping you'll be able to tell what happened with the titling. Could you moderate [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5683050 this submission] accordingly? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:59, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::It was just a typo. Edit approved. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:40, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Ron, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672924 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and merged. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:59, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== RuneQuest ==<br />
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Is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?954633 this one] definitely eligible for inclusion? AFAIK RuneQuest - at least as of the late 70s - is/was just an RPG ruleset and setting, not a novel. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuneQuest#History Wikipedia] thinks the 1979 one is a second edition, FWIW. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 05:53, 6 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I added that because it is listed in {{Reginald3}}. I am familiar with the RPG and played it back in high school. I recall that I played the 2nd edition and that it included Greg Stafford as an author. I am also aware that there is other fiction based on the campaign setting (e.g. {{T|186148|this}}). Reginald describes it as "fiction" and lists the authors as Perrin and Turney only with a 1979 date. Perhaps the Perrin/Turney edition includes enough fictional content to qualify. The only record I found in Worldcat for a Perrin/Turney edition is [https://www.worldcat.org/title/8673087 this 1980 printing] by a different publisher. I'd prefer to keep it in. I chose to enter it as a novel because of the length and Reginald's description as fiction. We don't really have a good type for fiction that isn't a traditional novel or story. I thought I had included a note about the Reginald description, but it doesn't seem to be there. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:17, 6 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: Thanks. I was under the impression that RPGs were explicitly excluded, but on examining [[ISFDB:Policy#Rules_of_Acquisition]] there is no mention of them, whether pro or anti. I then trawled back through the Rules & Standards archives, and had to go back ~15 years before I found anything that mentions them in the item heading. [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions/Archive/Archive05#What_is_an_RPG.3F That item] starts off ''"I know Role Playing Games are out but I don't know for sure what an RPG is"'', but (a) much of the discussion is about gamebooks, which are probably a different topic, and (b) doesn't really resolve anything. I don't see any earlier discussion of RPGs there.<br />
:: My concern is that if a new editor sees the RQ entry or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?68177 the AD&D ones], they might submit some other RPG book, and wonder why that would likely get rejected by a moderator. I certainly experienced something similar personally when I had a film-related submission rejected in my early days here, but could point to comparable entries already in the DB that had been deemed acceptable. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:12, 6 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Silverberg - Homefaring ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I'm adding Reginald3 ID# to your {{P|227965|PV here}}. As I'm adding a lot of Reg3 ID#s, could you let me know if you still want to be notified every time I make those simple edits? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:21, 6 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:That's fine. In the future, you only need add a note in the Notes to the Moderator. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:31, 6 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Always do :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:01, 6 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Cat People ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6346; I wrote Kraang as you suggested, he didn't reply (yet) but un-rejected my edit and made one of his own. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:15, 7 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's not how I would have handled it. The publisher and price were specific and I have a hard time believing that an editor created that record intentionally adding false values. Like any negative, it's extremely difficult to prove that an Indiana University Press edition never existed. Absence of evidence not being definitive evidence of absence. I would have left the IUP edition in place and added the BFI as a separate publication record under the same title. Since we still have a note as to the prior record, it can be recreated if proof of the publication can be found. Aside from overwriting the IUP edition, what we couldn't have is a record for the first BFI printing with a price from the IUP printing and a scan from a later BFI printing. For all those reasons, I had to reject your edit. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:49, 7 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Russ - The Female Man ==<br />
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Hello Ron, while I was entering two printings of this title I noticed that the Amazon image for your {{P|331690|PV here}} has the author's name compressed; different to {{P|952242|this printing}}. The link at the bottom of the notes there, "Compare here", shows the alternative cover (which matches yours). If your copy is not the same as the Amazon image I can upload the correct one for you. What do you think? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:53, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's a subtle difference and I think mine matched the Amazon cover. However, I went ahead and scanned my copy, so there's no question. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:28, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that, it's Gollancz up to their tricks again (they just can't leave the covers alone), changing it between the 1st & 7th printing. I'll add the publisher before I leave :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:38, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Black Gods and Scarlet Dreams ==<br />
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Ron, I saw one your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?168921 verified publications] on an exception report. The variant was severed and type changed to omnibus on the first collection. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:45, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I've put it back the way it was. Both the collections in the omnibus match previously published collections in contents, but the titles of the collections are new to this publication. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:33, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Zelazny - The Courts of Chaos ==<br />
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Ron, you're PV3 {{P|129711|here}}. Can you say how a gutter code for August 1978 (print) and a Locus date of November result in the pub date of October? The August part is ok, it's the Oct/Nov that doen't make sense to me. Thanks. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:43, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It looks like [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] added the publication month and you could reach out to him. However, I think you're confusing the month of the Locus issue, with the publication date reported in Locus, i.e. issue 216 is the {{P|266232|November 1978}} issue. The note doesn't specify what publication date is in that issue. [[User:Willem H.|Willem H.]] has also verified that issue, if you wish to have someone check. I hope that helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:20, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks Ron, and yes, for some reason, I misread November as the pub date rather than the Locus issue date. I've asked Willem to have a look for me. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:18, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I can see the confusion. There are a lot of notes like this, and indeed November is the month of the Locus issue. The publication date comes from the section "Books received - Oktober" in this issue. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:57, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Thanks for looking that up Willem. If it's alright with you two (and I'll ask Biomassbob) I'll change the wording slightly, to make it clearer, and also add a link to the Doubleday gutter code page (it took me a while to find that initially). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:24, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Beyond the Dark ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?918858; cover image is broken and I don't see any on Amazon; also, page count is wrong, 3 OL copies with 2 saying Berkley and 220 pages but 1 saying Lancer and 190 pages. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:16, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Into the Sun & Other Stories ==<br />
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I've uploaded the full wraparound art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18449 this], however, my copy's dustwrapper is a tad damaged so if you have a better one you may wish to replace it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 11:51, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:While my copy is in good condition, I really don't like posting full wraparound covers and don't do so for my verified publications. My feeling is that we post cover scans which are copyrighted under fair use. I'm not a lawyer, but I worry that going beyond the front cover even in a reduced resolution might be considered beyond fair use. In any case, I don't really want to scan the full cover and would actually prefer that we revert to the original scan of just the front cover. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Budrys - Rogue Moon ==<br />
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Hello Ron, you're joint PV with Pete {{P|344978|here}}. I've asked about this pub on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Budrys_-_Rogue_Moon Pete's page]. Could you drop in and let me know what you think? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:16, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Morrice ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5695803; I updated the record in case you have anything further to add to it after approval. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 14:49, 18 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Growing Up Weightless ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?913897; Should that be "introduction"? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:47, 19 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Fixed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:55, 19 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== M. Ness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1884197; I think the 2 items by Marni Ness should be by Mari Ness or made a variant of it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:42, 25 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It was a typo. I've merged the authors. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:25, 25 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wolf-Leader ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?343846; I made 3 edits adding month via copyright page of archived '21 edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:48, 26 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Camelot ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?33381; There is an OL-only non-preview copy which has a number line that starts with 3 and ends with 4. I think that's a 3rd printing, not on ISFDB and something I could clone, but what does your 2nd printing say for number line? Also, your publisher is the only one on ISFDB; this copy says Philomel Books on title page just like first printing someone entered here so does yours say Putnam on title page or should it be the same as the others? EDIT: Also, illustrator is referred to as Winslow Pels several times but back flap says jacket is by Winslow Pinney Pels. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:14, 2 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The lowest number in the number line of my copy is "2". Alternating numbers in a number line (odd numbers on the left, evens on the right) is common. When a subsequent printings were done the prior printing number was scraped off of the plates. My theory is that by arranging the numbers this way, it keeps the number line centered. Of course, with printing done electronically now, the need for such an arrangement is no longer necessary. Putnam is mentioned only on the verso of the title page. The first printing originally had the publisher listed as "Putnam/Philomel" when I cloned that record for the second printing. The publisher was subsequently changed for that record. Since the Philomel publisher record has the history of the imprint, I have merged the two publisher records. The title page has the artist credit as "Winslow Pels" which I would user over the flap copy, especially since the text on the flap is a statement of copyright rather than a specific credit. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:21, 2 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hugos ==<br />
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I see you've started on adding them; I don't know if you saw, but I started working on the contents of the leaked ballot a few days ago. I didn't get that far through, but there are some relevant links here: [[User:ErsatzCulture/Hugo2023]], although there are a few more records in the DB that hadn't yet got added to that page. Regards<br />
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At first glance, I only see one difference from the leak, Upstart (which people were querying the category for) isn't in the final list. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 09:15, 6 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I had entered the novels from the early list before I realized it was withdrawn. I decided not to delete that work unless the final list came out and disagreed (for novels it did not). I've entered the short fiction categories with the exception of those works that appear to only have been published in Chinese. It's going to take some work to track those down. I'll work on these more later today unless you've gotten to all of them. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:59, 6 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: I think I got all the short fiction that was on the leaked list, but I think there might be one on the official list that wasn't on the leak. Didn't get as far as related work, other than making a couple of notes about some of the people nominated for fan awards etc. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:10, 6 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
::: I've now done the awards for the 3 stories that I'd added to the database. I'll dig out and add details for the final missing story (White Cliff). I'm not planning on touching any of the others so that I don't duplicate any work that you're doing. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:34, 6 July 2023 (EDT) EDIT: final shortfiction is done. (The mag publication for it is really horrible and in need of a cleanup when I get chance to look into who the editor, publisher, etc is) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:46, 6 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: So I lied - I've now added all the Chinese finalists. Some of the peripheral stuff (e.g. publication records for the magazine a story first appeared in) needs tidying up, but I think the relevant title records are all OK, and the relevant author records.<br />
: There's a weirdness with 2 different finalists seemingly having the same Chinese characters for their name, but for the time being I've gotten around that with a (I) disambiguation. Will try to find a better solution if possible.<br />
: I'm now completely fed up with the Hugos, so I'll leave the remaining entries to you. I did do all of the pro-artist nominees, as that category should be all clear. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 15:42, 6 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for all that. It looks good. I tried for a bit to find the details of 时空画师 this morning, but was unable to get very far with the amount of time I could devote. I was somewhat flummoxed by the notation that it had been published in ''Galaxy's Edge'' not realizing that there is a separate Chinese publication with that title. I'll start working on the remaining items. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:25, 6 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Twilight Tales Presents, September 1998 ==<br />
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Hi, Ron. For [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386118 this] magazine/anthology, can you show me where it's verified on Locus1?<br />
Thanks. --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 14:33, 7 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Sure. The current link is [http://www.locusmag.com/index/t903.htm#A43742 here]. Hope this helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:03, 7 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I just noticed your other post regarding this. Locus1 does cover magazines in addition to books. See their [http://www.locusmag.com/index/0start.htm#TOC table of contents]. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:10, 7 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks! It's too bad they don't have a cover scan, since Galactic Central's is deleted, but that's the way it goes. I found another one on AbeBooks. —[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 19:16, 7 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Sixty Selected Poems ==<br />
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In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?833943 this pv pub] there is an External ID "Reginald-3: 84-62734" but the Secondary Verifications show "Reginald3 N/A". What do You think about? --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 14:52, 9 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Nope. Clearly that was supposed to be LCCN. Thanks for pointing it out. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:05, 9 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Awards where the title has multiple authors, but some have declined ==<br />
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Just bringing this to your attention, if you have any thoughts: [[User_talk:Ahasuerus#Awards_where_the_title_has_multiple_authors.2C_but_some_have_declined]]. Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 07:40, 10 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== SitD ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5703635; They may say what it is but, as so often, they were wrong; the link I provided shows that it is a story and it even says story in the URL of that link. I think this should be un-rejected. On the plus side, while looking into this just now I found Yates' page at encyclopedia.com which reveals that a work with the same title was a radio play in 1970, was collected in a book of his plays in 1971, and was a TV play in 1975, so I'll add that link to his page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:08, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Why do you suggest that Locus1 is often wrong? I find mistakes in their date to be rare. I Certainly trust them more than how a webzine structures their URLs and links. There are many different types of poems including prose poems and free verse and I don't claim to be expert at identifying the forms. I would rely on how Locus classified it as well as the fact that the verifiers saw no need to change the title type. Of course, you can put this on the community portal and see if any poetry experts disagree with Locus. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:50, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Blue Lady #7 ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=who%27s+that%3F&type=All+Titles; Hard to say what name was really used in either magazine his story appeared in because Ultimate Unknown and Blue Lady are very obscure and Locusmag/Philsp had/have a tendency to just lump together alternate names under a single name, but just mentioning that his name was supposedly different in the first zine and also appeared in 2 parts in 2 separate issues. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:01, 12 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Witches ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?519989; I discovered J.K. Potter did the cover for Faeries in this series and while looking for anything else I could do I noticed the later printing of Witches has Craft as artist but the first printing doesn't. You PV both so should you import it? It already has the right date. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:23, 12 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I've only got a transient verification on the first printing, so no longer have a copy of that printing. I'd reach out to [[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] who is also active. As the later printing has an unusual credit, we would want to make sure that she is similarly credited in the first printing. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:28, 12 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Involution Ocean ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18533; I imported map from 1980 NEL into this and also into 1977 Canadian, same date. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:20, 13 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Eye Hath Not Seen ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5717534; I made an edit, so can you approve it in case you do something else later and it conflicts? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:17, 15 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Reginald3 ==<br />
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Hello Ron, as you also have Reginald, could you check a couple of things for me please?<br />
I'm looking at these two pubs; {{P|175751|Coils - Wallaby - tp}} and {{P|172481|Coils - Doubleday - hc}}. To me it looks as though the Reg3 verification has been attributed to the wrong pub. Reg3 states "Doubleday & Co., 1982, 183 p, cloth" (i.e. hc). What do you think?<br />
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While you've got Reg3 out, could you also have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#SV_removal this topic]. I think Reg3 references the US pub, not the Canadian (simultaneous?) one. I've noticed that where this situation arises elsewhere, the non-referenced one (i.e. the Canadian one) gets marked "N/A" and the Reg3-referenced US one is verified. What do you make of that? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:51, 15 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Done and done. Reginald lists the publisher of ''Coils'' as simply "Doubldeay & Co." which is distinct from Nelson Doubleday which is generally for book club editions. However, I can find no evidence for a Doubleday trade edition either in Worldcat, nor in {{P|197321|Amber Dreams: A Roger Zelazny Bibliography}}, so I have to assume that Reginald got the publisher slightly off. I did see your note earlier on the moderator board, but I had hoped someone else would have acted on that. Since the remove verification function was added, I appear to be the only moderator who has made use of it. Many years ago, before we had this function, I was inaccurately accused of deleting another editor's verifications, so I try to be careful with using it. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:47, 15 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
::That's great Ron, thank you for taking the time to fix these :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:20, 15 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Coven of Vampires ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?19403; I just added Archive.org link to 2007 HC and noticed the foreword is dated 1997-02-00, not 1998 like the Fedogan first editions, so it's likely a case of someone entering signed date instead of book date; date should be changed to 1998 but I'd like to know first from your PV expensive edition (cheap edition was transient) whether it's signed with the 1997 date. Also, foreword in 2007 HC is dated December 2006 so I don't know if it was updated; if it was, it should be split and given a title like Foreword to the 2006 Edition or something, I think. Lumley's bibliography, https://www.brianlumley.com/books/bibliography.html, mentions a chapbook with TP and "Clean Slate", an uncollected story. Does your copy include anything like that? They only say Subterranean but they may be wrong. Also, title page, which hasn't been updated in 15 years, mentions missing text in 1 story from the Hodder edition; there is none listed so was Hodder the parent of NEL? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:18, 17 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The date was indeed from the signature on the essay, and I've corrected it. The signed edition only differs in the slipcase and the limitation page. I also believe the endpapers are different. I don't have any information on subsequent editions, but the foreword in the 2006 edition is the same as that in the F&B editions and did not have a 2006 date. I do have {{P|640485|Subterranean Press: Bibliography 1995 - 2015}} which mentions a chapbook issued with {{P|198273|the Subterranean edition}}. However, it gives the title of the chapbook as "A Coven of Vampires". It does not give contents. Hope this helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:38, 17 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Title-based awards ==<br />
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I have posted a [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Awards_where_the_title_has_multiple_authors.2C_but_some_have_declined reply on the Community Portal]. Sorry about the delay -- it's a complicated area and I needed to address other issues before I could do the topic justice. Sometimes there are just too many balls in the air :-\ [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 13:10, 17 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Absolutely no worries at all. The issues are certainly complicated. I've even thought of an additional wrinkle since my post. I'll respond in the main thread. Thanks, and also thanks for all the other balls you keep in the air!. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:42, 17 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Simak - City ==<br />
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Hello Ron, as you're PV for {{P|350375|this pub}}, I can't find a 2010-06-00 instance of Gwyneth Jones' {{T|1297168|Introduction (City)}}. The pub itself is dated 2011-06-00, so this looks like a typo. What do you think?<br />
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While I'm here, and about the paper (not the ebook) editions of the Masterworks (II) series, you've verified many entries in this series which currently only state Gollancz as the imprint, missing that Orion is the publisher. Would you agree to me amending these to Gollancz / Orion? If you are agreeable, would you want to be notified of every instance of this specific type of edit, given that I always detail the change in the Moderator note? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:18, 18 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Hi Kev -<br />
:I'm not sure what to do about Jones' introduction. The Masterworks edition is definitely 2011. The 2010 date for the introduction is not from a signature or a typo. Instead, it is given a copyright date of 2010 (no month) on the the copyright page. I wonder if perhaps the introduction was published elsewhere in 2010 and re-used for this book. If that is the case, then we should date the introduction with the 2011-06-00 date as the title would have changed. I'd be OK with changing the date and adding a note on the title record that the copyright date is 2010 and the essay may have been published earlier. Please feel free to refine the publisher by adding the parent Orion imprint. Just be careful as some of the earlier volumes were published by Millennium as an imprint of Gollancz. Those may all be in the earlier numbered series. You can add a moderator note that I've agreed that this sort of change is OK. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 18 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
::I think you mean Millennium as as imprint of Orion, but never mind and yes, I'm aware of the Millenium/Gollancz subleties in the first series. Thanks for the heads-up though.<br />
::If I'm inferring correctly, it's your copyright page that carries the copyright date of "2010" for the introduction so I think I'll put a brief note to that effect in your pub. I'll change the date at title level to 2011-06-00 and add a note there as well, to the same effect. That way we have all the angles covered.<br />
::Thanks for your agreement about adding the publisher in this second series, it'll save us a lot of reading :) and I'll reference this thread in the mod notes. Thanks again! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:16, 18 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Drawing of the Three TP ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5723266; https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1711477; Afterword on last page should be imported into this TP, I think. I added Archive.org link to first printing, January '90, of Signet PB, changed count from 463 to 464 with a note about last page being unnumbered, and imported afterword giving it a number of [464]; PV of that edition is gone. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:58, 23 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Added. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:36, 23 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== 100 Years of OZ ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331462; Copy on Archive.org, 2nd printing so I just added LCCN to 1st, but I noticed LoC says 159 pages, not 160, and back flap says Shaner was designer, not artist. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:21, 28 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I've removed the COVERART and added a note about the last page. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:36, 29 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Ron, looking at {{P|698044|this pub}}, I see Gaiman's introduction on page ix, which doesn't fit with 446 pages. What do you think? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:51, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit on this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:28, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for sorting that out Mike. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:55, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I corrected the pagecount from ix to xiv and restored the line breaks in the notefield. Good find! Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:08, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== McAuley - The Secret of Life ==<br />
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Hello Ron, I've submitted an edit for {{P|916090|this pub}}, expanding notes and replacing cover. Do you think there's a case for making Paul McAuley the canonical name? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:04, 9 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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User talk:Willem H.
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
<ul><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:59, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
<br />
I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
<br />
I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Lafferty - The Best of R. A. Lafferty ==<br />
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Hello Willem, you're PV {{P|698044|here}} and I'm pointing you to my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Lafferty_-_The_Best_of_R._A._Lafferty query here] so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:53, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: I submitted the following edit for this edition: Submitting four web page reviews, correcting pages (adding prefatory page in lower-case roman numeral), & adding Gollancz to pub note. Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 06:30, 3 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== (The) Big Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/C/Conklin_ed%20-%20Big%20Book%20of%20Science%20Fiction.pdf; No "The" at head of title on title page, says "Printed in Canada" on copyright page, does yours have "The"? If not, needs fixing and merging with HC title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:11, 7 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Abital? ==<br />
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Hello, Willem! Is it possible for you to look up [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1683622 this title] on p. 265 of "Spectrum 18: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art"? I do suspect that Abital I. Larson is identical with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?176078 Abigail Larson]. Or is it really somebody else? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Credit on page 265 is to 'Abital I. Larson', but the index has 'Abigail Larson'. I varianted artist and title. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2023 (EDT)</div>
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User talk:Willem H.
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
<br />
I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
<br />
I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
<br />
Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
<br />
Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
<br />
Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Someone else's note. Approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=668255
User talk:Willem H.
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
This is ONLY for cover images, notes, external id's, additional data and corrections. If you want to change any other field, or ask me something, add a new section to my [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&action=edit&section=new regular talkpage]! Thanks, Willem<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
<br />
As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
<br />
Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
<br />
Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
<br />
I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
<br />
I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
<br />
I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
<br />
I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
<br />
I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
<br />
I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
<br />
I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
<br />
On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
<br />
I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
<br />
Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
<br />
Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
<br />
Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
<br />
As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
<br><br />
<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
<br><br />
<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
<br />
As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
<br />
Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
<br />
Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
<br />
You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
<br />
By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
<br />
You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
<br><br />
<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== The Northern Girl ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== The Third Eagle ==<br />
<br />
On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
<br />
Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
<br />
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
<br />
Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thenks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:21, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Willem_H.&diff=668248
User talk:Willem H.
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
<br />
The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
<br />
I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
<br />
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
<br />
I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
<br />
I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
<br />
I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
<br />
Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
<br />
Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
<br />
Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:20, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
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Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
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I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
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I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
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I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
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I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
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I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
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I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
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I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
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Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
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Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
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Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
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As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
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<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
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<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
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As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
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Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
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You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
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Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
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By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
<br />
I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
<br />
Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
<br />
It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
<br />
I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
<br><br />
I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
<br />
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
<br />
Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
<br />
I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
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<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Added to my list of things to check when the paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:17, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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User talk:Willem H.
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If you're adding a cover image, notes or external id's to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, there's no need to inform me. I will see the change on my recently changed primary verifications.<br />
If you're adding other data and explain the source in the notefield, or if you're correcting obvious mistakes and explain in the note to moderator, there's also no need to inform me.<br />
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== The Quest for Saint Camber ==<br />
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There are three missing appendix titles in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45793 The Quest for Saint Camber]. Would you mind if I add them? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:For me they are part of the novel, but I have no problem with adding them as separate titles. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:15, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::Thanks. Would you rather I not bother you about these in the future? I'm sure there will be more. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 1 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::You're not bothering me with this. I do want to know about major changes to my verified pubs, but it's not necessary to ask for my permission to add data, when I can see it on my changed primary verifications anyway. Thanks :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 06:01, 2 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Quark/2 ==<br />
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Hello. Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27080 this]. A thrird party has notified me that the cover artist (photographer) is Ira Cohen. See [https://www.blackgate.com/2021/02/09/a-wonderful-picture-of-a-far-flung-community-of-writers-quark-edited-by-samuel-r-delany-and-marilyn-hacker/ this website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:24, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:And another one bites the dust. Thanks! I added the credit, note and link to blackgate.com. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:34, 7 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Belladonna Nights ==<br />
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Some minor note additions - details documented in Note to Moderators. Let me know if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:No problem. I ordered my copy on October 27, 2021 and received it today. Had nearly given up hope... --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Out from Ganymede - a content question ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I am working to update/correct several entries for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398728. One of the stories is "The Wooden Grenade", which has no previous publication history listed in the ISFDB entry. <br />
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I looked at the Acknowledgements (copyright info) in the book, and it states '"The Wooden Grenade" as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade; July 1967'.<br />
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I would like to update ISFDB to acknowledge that these are the same stories, which actually makes more sense, as I don't see anywhere about a previously unpublished story showing up in "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". <br />
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"The Sense of the Fire" was reprinted in Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede". I've looked around, but have been unable to find a scanned copy.<br />
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While I tend to believe that the Acknowledgements (copyright) info from "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" is correct and that these are the same story, I would be more comfortable if I could confirm that these are actually the same story.<br />
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ISFDB lists you as a primary verifier for "Out from Ganymede". Do you have a copy and can you check and let me know what the first sentence is in "The Sense of the Fire" in "Out from Ganymede?" In my library copy of "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg", the first sentence is "Stein, and obsessive, carried a large dummy hand grenade in: the right pocket of his converted Army fatigue jacket". (I do suspect that the copy editing of this "The Very Best of..." is off, as there is punctuation throughout that I find rather incorrect".<br />
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If you don't have this, I'll try Don Erikson, who is also a primary verifier.<br />
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Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 00:08, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Nice find. Yes, I still have my copy, and yes, the first line of "The Sense of the Fire" is the same, so "The Wooden Grenade" can be varianted to it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Willem, thanks for your help. I'll take care of this and another "Very Best of" variant issue after I get guidance on which version should be canonical (I have submitted a query to AnnieMod).[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:50, 13 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Electric Mind ==<br />
<br />
Sorry, I hit approve instead of hold on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5196801 this submission] by mistake. It should have been held to check with you on the change in page number. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: I agree, it should have been held, especially because the source for the change is the contents page. I checked the pub, and this time the edit is ok. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:27, 15 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== French Perry Rhodan ==<br />
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Hi, Willem! I don't have researched if you verified some volumes in the series, but you may be interested and want to take part [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Perry_Rhodan_in_French here]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:49, 16 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I don't have any French Perry Rhodans in my collection. I do think toy're right about the phase 2 translations. These should be varianted to the German originals. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:05, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks anyway, Willem! Perrypedia and the few volumes I do own are also quite clear. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:17, 17 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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::: Could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Unverifying_publications this discussion on the Moderator Noticeboard], which is related to these Perry Rhodan changes? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:10, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Prologue (Foundation's Edge) ==<br />
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I am creating and PVing a later printing of {{P|224593|Foundation's Edge}}. Whilst adding the Prologue, I noticed that a Title record for it already appears to exist: {{T|925884|Prologue (Foundation's Edge)}} and the only pub record it relates to is the first printing, which you have PVd. The Prologue is recorded as SHORTFICTION but I think it should be ESSAY. The giveaway is this first sentence of a paragraph toward the bottom the first page: "In the Foundation Trilogy, the story of the first four centuries of the Interregnum is told". Can you please check the Prologue in your copy to see if it is the same and let me have your thoughts on changing the Type.<br>Based on the Last User Activity Date, there are 3 PVs who are still active: Willem H, Taweiss and Nihonjoe, so I have posted this note to all your Talk pages. I am a new editor, so am not sure of the correct etiquette for handling this situation, but it seems desirable to have the whole conversation in one place. So may I suggest you reply on my Talk page. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:43, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Replied [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Prologue_.28Foundation.27s_Edge.29 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:31, 22 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Original publication for two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories ==<br />
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Hi Willem. <br />
<br />
I saw that two Pat McIntosh "Thula" stories that appear in Lin Carter's "The Year's Best Fantasy Stories", Vol 4 and 5, are without any prior publication listed in ISFDB. <br />
<br />
I have "Flashing Swords #1", but I don't have those "Year's Best" volumes. I was unable to find scanned copies of those volumes online, but I see that you are a Primary Verifier for both and I hope that means you still have copies.<br />
<br />
I have been told that sometimes Lin Carter's "Year's Best" volumes had original stories first published in them.<br />
<br />
I would love to be able to update "The Cloak of Dreams" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94079) and "Child of Air" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?94075), either with a first publication ISFDB title entry or at least a mention in the Notes that they were original to the two "Year's Best" volumes.<br />
<br />
I would really appreciate it if you could check the copyright/acknowledgements/whatever info in those two volumes and advise me.<br />
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Thanks and best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 13:29, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Hi Willem. Right after I posted this, a friend sent me a scan of the copyright pages for those two volumes. Yes, those were original publications in the "Year's Best" for those two stories. I will update the Notes for the story.<br />
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::Already solved I see. Which is good. These books are still stored in a garage box and hard to access. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:44, 24 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Preface; The Beat Goes On ==<br />
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In {{P|291430|Meditations on Middle-Earth}}, can you double check the title of the preface? The tp uses a colon and not a semicolon as currently entered. I'm assuming someone missed hitting the shift key, but can you double check your hc? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:12, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I guess all verifiers missed that one. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:59, 30 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== De Hobbit question ==<br />
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Hello Willem,<br />
<br />
I have a question regarding entry for 'De Hobbit' published by Prisma Boeken 1960. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375482 Record #375482].<br />
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On this entry under 'Notes' it claims that the first printing of the book has 529.1 in the gutter code. I haven't seen this written anywhere else, even Tolkien Library doesn't note it and I am wondering now if there were other printings i.e 529.2 etc in 1960 or if they all had 529.1 until it was reprinted again in 1967. It's not really common to list printing history this way in mass markets but I am intrigued to know if it was indeed done for this title!<br />
<br />
I know that this book was reprinted many times between 1960-1975, '67 is officially supposed to be the 2nd & 3rd printing of the book, although in these later printings the cover is slightly different etc. Still I am intrigued to know!<br />
<br />
Please let me know if you have any further info :-)<br />
<br />
Thanks {{unsigned|Bombadil}}<br />
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:I don't know why the gutter codes are not noted anywhere else. They are there though, and they are a good source for the printing number. As far as I know there were no other printings of "De Hobbit" between 1960 and the second printing in 1967, which should have 529.2 (if it has one at all, the Prisma series was not very consistent in the use of guttercodes, my 1973 tenth printing has no gutter code at all). I have always assumed Tolkien was not very popular in the Netherlands until after the Prisma editions of "In de ban van de ring" appeared in 1965. Hope this helps a little. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:48, 5 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Glory Season==<br />
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Added map to Contents of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15555 Glory Season] . [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:23, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved. You can proceed with the merge. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:58, 6 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Eden ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4309<br />
<br />
Would this be enough to edit the publication date to the more precise: 1955-04-21?<br><br />
Review copy note found inside pb edition: [https://upload.vaa.red/23krPp#5491ba8dce3f0645cd8b91913d61495e]<br><br />
It mentions both the pb and the hc edition. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:19, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, that's certainly enough (for both editions). Be sure to add pub notes referring to this note. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Radix ==<br />
<br />
As there are no notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27260 Radix], I would like to add the following ones before I PV:<br />
<br>"Bantam Spectra edition / October 1985"<br />
<br>First printing per printer's key: O 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1<br />
<br>Cover artist credited in the "Acknowlegements" and per "Cover copyright © 1985 by Fred Marcellino" on the copyright page.<br />
<br>Map artist credited in the "Acknowlegements".<br />
<br>C$4.50 in Canada.<br />
<br><br />
<br>In addition:<br />
<br>Change page count to [12]+466<br />
<br>Add map title on page [12]<br />
<br>Add title "Appendix (Radix)" on page 449<br />
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<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:23, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no problem with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:06, 19 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Girl from the Emeraline Island ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40611 The Girl from the Emeraline Island] show "First Edition: May 1984" and no number line on the copyright page? I want to replace the "1st printing" note with those notes, plus add the map title on page [9] and change the page count to [10]+274 before I PV. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:49, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes and yes and yes! Please do. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Millennium by Bova ==<br />
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Would you please check the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 Millennium] and see if it actually reads "Millennium" over "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999"? My first printing copy shows that so I would like to correct the title to be "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999", plus replace the note with "First Ballantine Book Edition: April 1997" and "No printer's key.", and add the note "Cover art by Joseph Csatari on the copyright page".<br />
<br><br />
<br>If that is OK, I propose to then:<br />
<br>1. Unmerge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?216445 this pub], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243185 this pub], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?419328 this pub] from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1527 existing title].<br />
<br>2. Make the resulting new title the cannonical title by making the existing title a variant of the new title since the new one is the oldest title.<br />
<br>3. Merge the three pubs named "Millennium: A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" together.<br />
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<br>Would all of this be OK with you? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:19, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The phrase "A Novel About People and Politics in the Year 1999" is indeed on the titlepage, but I don't think it's meant to be a subtitle, more an explanation of what the novel is about. The phrase is also separated from the title by a horizontal line. I would like to keep it the way it is, but will not protest if a majority wants it the other way. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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::That's a great point I hadn't considered. Let's see how Dirk and Dsorgen reply. I'm not that committed to doing the work to implement my suggested change. Even if we leave it as simply "Millenium", there are still two verified pubs that have the longer name. At some point, someone will want to resolve that issue. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:58, 26 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Space Relations full title ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Yes, my copy has the full title on the title page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:40, 2 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Michaël Winkel ==<br />
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Hi Willem, I've updated the author record from Michael Winkel to {{a|Michaël Winkel|220945}} (as written on the copyright page of {{p|506492|De glazen boom}}). The consequence is is that the artist's name is also updated in all other title records (as listed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?220945 here]). Could you check the spelling of the author's name in the books you have? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:54, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Sorry, can't do that anymore. I had to sell 1000 Dutch paperbacks and hardcovers (the house was full). This included the complete Gradivus series. I'm now moving my verifications to transient. I think it's safe to assume that the " is present in all these books (only Gradivus has him). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks Willem. That would be my thought as well. (and I was wondering why you had these transiently verified - now I know :)) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:49, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Masterpieces of Fantasy Art ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
<br />
If you've no objections, I'd like to add the content to Dian Hanson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836049 Masterpieces of Fantasy Art]''. Additionally, I'll get a better scan of the cover than the Amazon image. I'm coming to a good point to pause one of my other projects and thought I'd tackle this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:46, 15 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:If you want to do this, please do! Content for any of my artbook pv's is always welcome. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:36, 16 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::I've finished with the Hanson book. In the course of working on it, I found the ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257217 The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt]'' is also lacking content. I was also surprised that I hadn't verified this book, as I've had a copy since I was a teenager. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and work on this one next, especially so that I can link the shared pieces with the Hanson book. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:59, 2 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Pyramid Giant ==<br />
<br />
As a verifier of a Pyramid Giant {{P|1381|publication}}. Would you please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rudam#Men_Against_the_Stars this conversation]. The question is whether Pyramid Giant is a publisher or a pub series or both. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:14, 18 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 07:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Red Moon and Black Mountain SFBC edition ==<br />
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Would you please look at the title page of your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108381 Red Moon and Black Mountain] and see if it shows "Red Moon" over "and" over "Black Mountain" in large lettering over "The End of the House of Kendreth" in smaller lettering? If it does, it matches my copy so I think the title should be changed to "Red Moon and Black Mountain: The End of the House of Kendreth". I'm willing to make the change since I need to make the same title change to the Ballantine pb first printing. (Ref: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Red_Moon_and_Black_Mountain]). Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:40, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, the subtitle is on the titlepage of my copy, so go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:12, 20 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Blue Hawk ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231189 The Blue Hawk], would you mind if I replace the inaccurate note "Stated 1st printing" with notes "First Ballantine Books Edition: August 1977" and "No printer's key or printing statement."? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:18, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Good find! The change is correct. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:25, 22 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Couch of Silistra ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267091 The Fantastic Art of Boris Vallejo] and verify that "Silistra" is spelled like that, not "Silestra"?--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 19:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
:It's Silistra. Added my 2c on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rosab618#The_High_Couch_of_Silestra your talkpage]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:40, 26 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Cover Art for Ruimtesprong naar Moran ==<br />
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Hi Willem, the pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888578 Ruimtesprong naar Moran] actually displays Manfred Schneider's signature in the cover's lower right. It's only the remaining covers that look like Schneider's but show now other evidence. Cheers, John - [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 01:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I plead temporary blindness. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:53, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?100281 The Tsaddik of the Seven Wonders], would you mind if I replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Printing: December, 1971" and "No printer's key" before I PV? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:59, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no problem with changes like that. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:54, 8 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== House of the Hatchet ==<br />
<br />
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287539; I changed cover artist to C. Achilleos per back cover on FantLab. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:01, 10 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Approved and varianted. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 11 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Strange Things in Close-Up ==<br />
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Would you mind double checking the story on page 80 of {{P|33549|Strange Things in Close-Up}}? Per the Internet Archive scan, the version in this pub should have a comma after World and no period at the end. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
: You're absolutely right. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 02:45, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Revisionists ==<br />
<br />
Hi. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357780 2011 first edition] from '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''', a record verified by inactive editor Teddybear long ago. We use "Little, Brown" rather than its fullname for the US company and its descendant division or imprint, including as '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown'''. I would truncate the publisher name myself, and thus eliminate the fullname from the database (one update of unverified publication is in the queue), with report at Moderator noticeboard because two earlier PVerifiers are inactive. But:<br />
<br />
You should revisit that record yourself because there is an obvious error in the Note, first item.<br />
: "First Edition: September 2017"<br />
Presumably that is a quotation from the book and should be 2011. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:35, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for this. I merged the two publishers, so '''Mulholland Books / Little, Brown and Company''' is gone now. Also corrected the note, I probably didn't notice this when verifying. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:52, 26 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe ==<br />
<br />
Willem, Hello again from Boston, now May Day 2022. You verified one undated printing of ''Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe'' T{{t|2163025}}. Working this hour from our record of 2001 first ed./printing, I submitted 15 Title Update, namely:<br />
;Spelling (3) <br />
• Sir Gawain & the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Ofreo <br />
• The Wtcher in the Water <br />
• Shalob's Lair<br />
;Capitals (12) <br />
• After a hot afternoon of photos<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer [2]<br />
• Fourteenth-century archer<br />
• Boar hunting<br />
• Shelob about to leap on Frodo<br />
• road to Caradhras<br />
• Gollum Vignette<br />
• Shire Vignette<br />
• Earthdawn: Throal, The Dwarf Kingdom<br />
• The Knight battles two Giants<br />
• Melkor Calls forth Ungoliante <br />
• Knight on airplane wing <br />
<br>I did not change "-century" (a rule I would need to look up), only "archer". The submissions queue is quite long --my own date from -04-26 but someday soon you might revisit the publication record and scan its Contents.<br />
<br />
By the way, do you know whether all of the INTERIORART in this John Howe collection are previously published? I submitted a Title Note for only one of the 15, if i recall correctly, namely "The Knight Battles Two Giants" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5307436 submission]. One or both picture books may be in the submission queue if not the database before you read this. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 15:51, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Thanks for all this work. I only imported the contents from Bob's edition, and simply didn't (don't) have the time to check every title. Approved your submissions, and placed "vignette" in brackets for Gollum and Shire. The [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Title help text] under "case" is clear about hyphenated words. They have the first letter after the hyphen capitalized (I corrected the two Fourteenth-Century Archers).<br />
: For a number of illustrations the original publication is cited, I think Bob did a great job in varianting so many and I have no idea about previous publications of Howe's work. Bob might know more. Thanks again, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:56, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Summer==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?101591 Helliconia Summer]. I will add sourced, additional information but want to advise you of two changes I am proposing: 1) change author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as per title page 2) delete the Coverart content reference because Mon Mohan is only the designer. I will add a pub note: "Jacket design by Mon Mohan, reproducing a Saftleven landscape" on rear dust jacket flap. Are you ok with these changes? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 3 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: I should have seen that when verifying. Please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:14, 4 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Aldiss / Helliconia Winter==<br />
<br />
I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16825 Helliconia Winter]. I will add sourced, additional information but am also proposing to remove the "Helliconia (map)" content record and import the existing "Helliconia Winter (map)" because there are slight differences between the maps in the Cape editions of Summer and Winter. I will add a note about this. As I have verified the price from my copy, would you like me to delete your note: "P2 ver. copy has the price clipped off." or would you prefer to leave it in? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:40, 5 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sounds good to me, so go ahead. I would like to keep my note about the price though. It can't be verified from my copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:09, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::No problem. I'll leave your price clip note as it is. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:02, 6 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 28 ==<br />
<br />
Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251640 this] is almost certanly Joe Petagno comparing it to other covers featuring his work. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:55, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. You already added the note about Petagno in 2015, and I still can't find any proof. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:04, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:: So I did. I'd totally forgotten I'd done that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:15, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Myth & Magic ==<br />
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You're listed as a PV for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?470960 this 4th edition] of ''Myth & Magic''. The pub notes say "C$29.99 in Canada". I also have a 4th printing, but my copy shows "CAN $43.95" on the front dust jacket flap. Will you check your copy to verify what price is listed there for Canada in your copy? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Are you sure you have a UK edition of the book? I did a temporary upload of the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/0e/MythMagicCP.jpg copyright page] and the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ab/MythMagicPrice.jpeg price] from my copy (backcover of dustjacket) so you can compare them (I'll delete them after your response here). The price is also printed on the front flap of the dustjacket and the backcover of the book itself. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:04, 13 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I'm pretty sure it had the price in pounds first. I'll check when I get home. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:56, 23 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Here are pics of the one I have. As far as I can tell, it's one from the UK, but the copyright page is different than yours. <br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/6OREyb7s4A9c.jpg Copyright page]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/0czuHyx2Lpw7.jpg Back cover]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/FWIH2LxGRl7Z.jpg Back dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/RJ7q2b3n1Lsd.jpg Front dust jacket flap]<br />
:::*[https://pasteboard.co/3c4UFQb8ke1W.jpg Front cover]<br />
:::Maybe there are two different versions of the fourth printing somehow? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:43, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::Amazing. A lot of differences, website, printer, notation of the numberline and more, I only now noticed even the frontcover of my copy is different (it has a reference to the Hobbit films). I uploaded a scan of my copy and added some notes (doubting that mine is an actual 4th printing). Perhaps it's best that you clone Biomassbob's second printing for your edition. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:47, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've cloned mine off the original release [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900198 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:20, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::::I've also linked the two versions so people can easily find them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:23, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Justin Leiber titles ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48206 The Sword and the Eye], would you mind if I add the map on page 7?<br />
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48221 The Sword and the Tower], would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+216 and add the map on page [7]?<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:27, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Please do. Seems I forgot to add the maps. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:17, 25 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Watchtower ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188549 Watchtower], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [12]+226<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "Watchtower (map)" by uncredited on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "Watchtower" by uncredited on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add essay title "Appendix: The Cards of Fortune (Watchtower)" by uncredited on page 223<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:17, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:11, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dancers of Arun ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188529 The Dancers of Arun] would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+275<br />
<br>2. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun (map)" on page [7]<br />
<br>3. Add interiorart title "The Dancers of Arun" on page [9]<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes.<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:43, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Northern Girl ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?188517 The Northern Girl], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [14]+415<br />
<br>2. Import title "The Northern Girl (maps)" on page [9]<br />
<br>3. Add essay title "Appendices (The Northern Girl)" by uncredited on page 409<br />
<br>4. Add relevant notes<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:04, 30 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, go ahead. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:12, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Third Eagle ==<br />
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On the title page of my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48488 The Third Eagle] there is what looks like a subtitle under the drawing. Based on this, I would like to change the title to "The Third Eagle: Lessons Along a Minor String". The record for the Doubleday hardcover edition has this subtitle and this pub is stated as being the complete text of that edition. Would it be OK to make the change or is this something you should do as the original PV for this pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:24, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Good find! Please proceed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:21, 31 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Het rijk van het atoom / De tovenaar van Linn ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416047 this] is Jerome Podwil. Same art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880222 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:37, 2 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for finding this. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Stylistically it's obviously Jerome Podwil, but I've never seen a good source or signature to clinch it. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== WW ID ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48242; 13200 ID added. --[[User:Username|Username]] 01:48, 4 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: ok. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:26, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dragonsong ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255631 Dragonsong], would you mind if I import the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?962061 Foreword] on page ix? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:27, 17 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Space Opera ==<br />
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Added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521536 this], same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?686251 Das Schiff von Atlantis]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:33, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! and approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:51, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Sociology of the Possible ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871321; There's a 6th printing on Archive.org which says the excerpt from Samuel Butler is Erewhon. Does your copy say the same and the title was just entered incorrectly here or was it actually misspelled in the 1st printing? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:21, 18 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, it's actually spelled as "Erehwon". I added a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:46, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: I noticed Archive.org has another copy, uploaded in September 2020, which doesn't show up on Open Library, that turned out to be the first edition you PV, so I've added an edit with the Archive link. There's also a 1977 "2d ed." on OL and LCCN whose page counts, both Roman and regular, differ, so I don't know where that fits in. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:36, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Unites States ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265442; 2 Walker publications have a note saying "Unites States"; I fixed one because there's an Archive copy but this book doesn't have one; the other PV for this book died so I'll ask you to check if it really says Unites or if it's United. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Just a typo. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 19 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / The Magic Goes Away ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the limited ed hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43532 The Magic Goes Away]. I will change the page count which brings it in line with the page count of the tp version. I have verified that this count is also correct for the hc. I will also add my usual extensive notes. I will leave your comment: "PV1 copy is signed by Niven, but not numbered" as it is. Incidentally, my copy is both signed and numbered. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 19:01, 25 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
: No problem. Go ahead. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:18, 26 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Larry Niven / Limits ==<br />
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I am PVing and editing the US version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?248393 Limits]. The ISFDb pub record has the story "Folk Tale" on p205, whereas in my copy of the book it is "Table Manners" both on p205 and in the TOC. The latter is a variant title of the former. Can you please check your copy and advise. If it is consistent with mine then I will make the appropriate change. I have posted this note on the talk pages of Willem H, Dirk P Broer & GlennMcG. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:47, 27 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:My copy has "Folk Tale" on page 205 and the toc. Does your copy also state "First Edition: February 1985" on the copyright page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::My copy is priced $2.95 and states "First Edition: February 1985" on copyright page. There is no numberline and no mention of additional printings. Everything about it precisely matches the info in the pub record to which I linked... apart from the title of the Folk Tale / Table Manners story. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:08, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Amazing. So there are two different first editions. The best thing to do is clone the existing pub and in the new one replace "Folk Tale" with "Table Manners" (with a note explaining the difference of course). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:52, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::We have a conclusion so I am posting this note on all your talk pages (Willem H, Dirk P Broer and GlennMcG). It is quite bizarre: there are two versions of the first printing. Willem H and GlennMcG have the version with "Folk Tale" on p205 whereas Dirk P Broer and I have the version with "Table Manners" on p205. I will clone the existing record, alter it to show the "Table Manners" title and add a pub note explaining the difference between the two versions. Then I will edit the original record and add a corresponding pub note. This should help to prevent a future editor thinking that these are duplicate records and deleting one of them. Thank you all for your help in resolving this matter. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:44, 30 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Land Beyond the Map ==<br />
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Now that the original art (apparently unsigned, alas) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14802 Land Beyond the Map] is shown at [https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1813647 comicartfans] by Glynn Crain, and credited to John Schoenherr, thus agreeing with Ian Schoenherr's statement (see publication note), I'd like to change the cover art credit from Jerome Podwil to John Schoenherr. Would you agree? [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:49, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I have no objections to the change. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 28 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No objections from me either. Thanks. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 03:01, 29 June 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== To Say Nothing of the Dog duplicate records ==<br />
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It looks like you and Stonecreek have duplicate records for the 4th printing of <nowiki>ISBN 0-553-57538-4</nowiki>. Please see {{P|351641}} and {{P|351116}}. I will point Stonecreek to this conversation as well. If you two could work out if these are truly duplicates and consolidate to one, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:54, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Hi, Willem. I have unverified mine and will delete it: it was in fact verified later than yours (on 2011-05-05). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:29, 9 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Looks like the right solution. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:32, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: One afterthought: Should ", or How We Found the Bishop's Bird Stump at Last" better be added to the publication's title? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:24, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Probably, yes. I'll look at the titlepage when I'm home again sunday. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 17:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::::: The titlepage has the subtitle, so I added it. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lost Realms Reginald Verification ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
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You've marked your verified trade paperback [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289322 publication] of ''Lost Realms'' with a Reginald3 verification. It looks like Reginald lists the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289323 hardcover] printing. I've added the Reginald ID to that one, but have left the Reginald3 verification open in case you'd like to move your verification there. I do note that the HC publication has a later date and a note to that effect. It looks like the note and the date change was added by [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] back in 2009. The secondary sources all have the 1984 date. I'm not sure of his source, or whether it would apply to the paperback as well. In any case, I've let the date and the note stand. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm on a short vacation at the moment. Will look at the pub/Reginald3 next sunday. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:36, 11 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::You were absolutely right (of course). I moved the Reginald3 verification to the hardcover. I.m.o. the publication dates can be correct. Locus1 has the paperback as a 1984 publication, the hardcover is mentioned as "also available", but "not seen" so it could have been published later. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:43, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== DUTCH Woodroffe Edition ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485184; No cover so I added it from this page, https://www.amazon.co.uk/avonturen-van-Happer-eend-gaten/dp/B07QQ2168V, and there's other photos including the back cover, in case there's any extra info you could add from them. Amazon wrote the wrong publisher, though. --[[User:Username|Username]] 12:25, 13 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:F.y.i., there is a quite obvious difference between Dutch and German. The image is correct, so it can be approved by one of the moderators still working on your submissions. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Still the same charmer, I see. FYI, the language mistake is irrelevant, the salient point is you're the PV and so per ISFDB rules I'm supposed to contact you regarding any changes, which is what I did, and I thought you'd like to know there's a photo of the back cover available in case your copy was damaged or heavily stickered and some or all of the info was illegible, because unlike you I don't care if I like the person I'm contacting; correcting old info or entering new info is all that matters here. Try to remember that the next time I contact you, Boze Man. You're welcome. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:44, 17 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::: Try to read the message in yellow at the top of this page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:30, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::: I read the part where it says, "if you want to ask me something", which I did when I asked if any info on Amazon's back cover could be used by you in case, as often happens, a PV copy is damaged or covered with price tags/library stickers. You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with something you entered, as was obvious from my first contact with you last year about Wellspring and your recent embarrassingly lengthy and hostile argument with Stonecreek about some minor M.Z. Bradley story length issue, which I had to contact a mod about in order to stop you from filling screen after screen with it. I'll say it again: all that matters to me re: ISFDB is correcting or entering info, and whether I like the person I'm contacting, which I don't in most cases based on my personal interaction with them or the way they interact with others here, not to mention the quality of their editing, means nothing. So whatever problem you have with me, when I contact you with something related to this site try to answer without sarcasm or anger. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Thomas M. Disch / 334 ==<br />
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I am editing / PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267525 334]. A couple of points: 1) The story starting on page 85 is actually titled "Emancipation" (variant title) whereas the pub record currently has "Emancipation: A Romance of the Times to Come" (parent title) so I will correct this. 2) The rear dj flap states "Computer picture by courtesy of Control Data International" and "Jacket design by Michael Hasted" so, as he's credited as the designer, not artist, I'm not sure he ought to have a Coverart record. This is somewhat subjective as the photo of the computer has clearly been modified to include the doorway. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Do you think we should leave the Coverart record or remove it? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:48, 20 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:1) I must have missed the title when verifying. The best way to do this is to remove the current title, and import the correct one.<br />
:2) I think this is one of the exceptions, where the designer also did (parts of) the cover art. I would like to keep the credit. The note probably needs to be a bit clearer. Thanks for this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:27, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::That's fine. I will leave the Coverart record alone, add the quotes from the rear dj flap to the pub notes and correct the title of Emancipation. I have just submitted the first edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::First edit is approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:28, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== What Mad Universe ==<br />
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I own this edition from 1954: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271572<br><br />
I was gonna add a late Swedish translation from 1975 and I noticed that<br><br />
my Swedish translation had changed the year of the first attempt of sending<br><br />
a rocket to the moon from 1954 (in my 1954 edition) to 1959 (in what I assume<br><br />
is an attempt to more closely reflect real events?).<br><br />
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I noticed that you own multiple English copies of this title, past and post 1959<br><br />
and I was just curious if this change of year happened already in the English<br><br />
versions, or if this is yet again a case of an insincere Swedish translator.<br><br />
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The section of the moon rocket is mentioned already on the first page.<br><br />
--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 14:21, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I checked the editions I own, and all of them have 1954 as the year of the first attempt. Your idea may be right, and it's certainly worth a note. The first Swedish translation in the database is from 1959, and may be the origin of this date change. Hope this helps.--[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:42, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Very interesting. I cannot speak for the 1959 translation, but I will add a note<br><br />
:: to the 1975 translation about the date of the moon rocket.<br />
:: Thanks for checking :) --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:51, 21 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Asimov's ''Nine Tomorrows'' et al. ==<br />
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Hi Willem. I have here a copy of the July 1960 Bantam edition, similar to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178633 this one], except that copyright page states “published simultaneously in the US and Canada". Does your copy have the same statement ? In which case, I'll upgrade the notes. If not, I'll have to make a variant of it, as the other 1960 one only has “in Canada”. TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 06:50, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
:Same thing for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?121801 Sheckley's ''Pilgrimage to Earth''], and I suppose many others. I also suppose now that it has been a common practice on this db to duplicate a pub with two different countries of publication, though I find this a bit odd and confusing. If this is the case, I'll just verify both versions, although I can't say I approve of the idea ! Cheers, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:02, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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::Hi Dominique. I remember Bluesman did a lot (thousands?) of those (he lives in Canada). It is kind of logical to treat these as two different publications, since there is a difference in the copyright pages. My copy of Nine Tomorrows has the statement "Printed in the United Stated of America" at the bottom of the copyright page (between the horizontal lines) and Pilgrimage to Earth also at the bottom of the copyright page, next to last line. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 28 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:::Thanks Willem, I'll go along with that. My mistake, actually : I was set on the 1959 copyright and the joint US / Canada publication for some obscure reason, and didn't nocice the bit between the lines. Must be either old age or too much booze… Thanks again, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:54, 28 July 2022 (EDT).<br />
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== Tuck Numbering ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively. The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering. These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers. I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct. The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered. I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3). I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number). You have verified one or both of these books. Would you have any objections to my proposed changes? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:I think Dirk was working on the cleanup report for "Publications with an Invalid Page Count". Your solution is better, so no objections (I assume you mean 531 for the start of volume III). Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:22, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starfollowers of Coramonde ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255082 The Starfollowers of Coramonde], would you mind if I:<br />
<br>1. Change the page count to [6]+361<br />
<br>2. Import the map title (record 1406573) on page [6] plus fix the map title date<br />
<br>3. Replace "Stated 1st printing" with "First Edition: February 1979" and "No printer's key so first printing assumed." notes.<br />
<br>4. Add LCCN<br />
<br>5. Add notes for cover artist, map artist, LCCN<br />
<br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:10, 30 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:No problem, please go ahead. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:27, 31 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Color of Neanderthal Eyes ==<br />
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Hello. Could you double check the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37330 this]. Certain the credit for Dave Archer is wrong. The planets on the red background is the rear portion of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f7/BFRTHGLDNB1975.jpg this] rotated clockwise 90 degrees. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 1 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:You're absolutely right. David Archer is credited on the copyright page though, so I changed the credit to "David Archer in error" and varianted the title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1859474 Before the Golden Age Volume Four]. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:41, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Thanks Willem. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:19, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Chocky catalog ID ==<br />
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My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6956 Chocky] has catalog ID U6119. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 03:05, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Mine too. Probably an ancient typo. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Carter of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for this is definately not Breuce Pennington but Richard Clifton-Dey as noted on BP's Fan based Facebook site [https://www.facebook.com/Bruce-Pennington-Fan-Page-129826343726792/photos/4369595593083158 here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:20, 2 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the info. I added the link to the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:40, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: No problem. The error came because the cover is shown on an archived version of Pennington's website but subsequently removed from the current website. The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Facebook page pointed me to the image on BP's fan FB post. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:22, 3 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9422 Deadly Image] and propose to: <br> 1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205393 1969 Ballantine second printing] and update date on title and coverart records <br> 2) add pub note advising that the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293455 1958 UK Hutchinson hc] states that it is preceded by this edition <br> 3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived) <br> Are you ok with all this? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:08, 15 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:16, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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==Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow <br> I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189277 Tomorrow's Gift] <br> 1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child" <br> 2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major" <br> I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:54, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Correct changes. No problem here. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:27, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== New Writings in SF-18 ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:39, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Publisher for The Architecture of Desire ==<br />
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Hi Willem<br />
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While adding some secondary IDs to your verified record of Mary Gentle's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35298 The Architecture of Desire]'', I noticed that Reginald and Worldcat list the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?4254 Bantam Press] as opposed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?360 Bantam Books (UK)] as is listed in the record and in Locus1. With the descriptions on the the two publishers, it seems more likely that this is Bantam Press. Could you double check the book and change the publisher if we've got it wrong? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's indeed "Bantam Press" on the title and copyrightpage. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 05:05, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== In the Wrong Hands ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18141 In the Wrong Hands], I added the title for the drawing on page ix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:19, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:24, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De fatale zeven dagen ==<br />
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Hi, I think there's a signature 'Thole' in the lower left corner, of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375264 this], but I'd need a better scan to be certain. Compare to for example [https://www.flickr.com/photos/boydehaas/32998505650/ De Laatste Tocht]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:32, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:It's certainly the same signature. If you want to add the credit, be my guest. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372380 this one] also has a similar signature. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:21, 3 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Steps to Midnight ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304163; 1993 Forge had Seven, but it's 7, so I fixed that and had no need to contact PV because they're long-gone, but 2003 Forge was PV by you, so I fixed your title, too, and cover art title and added the Archive link. The variant situation should probably be fixed because there's probably no edition that actually has Seven on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Edmund Cooper / Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19212 Jupiter Laughs and Other Stories]. A couple of points:<br />
<br>A) Two different ISBNs are stated in this pub: 0 340 24548 4 on the copyright page and 0 340 22458 4 on the rear flap. Both are valid ISBNs and, following a bit of internet research, neither seems to be assigned to another book so neither is obviously wrong. Worldcat lists both ISBNs under the same entry; British Library only lists 0 340 22458 4. I will add pub notes about all this and propose to change the ISBN field to contain the ISBN stated on the copyright page as I think that should take precedence over the rear flap.<br />
<br>B) ISFDb lists the story on page 133 as "M81: Ursa Major" (no space before "81") but it should be "M 81: Ursa Major" (space before "81") so I propose to import the latter and remove the former. Very pedantic, I know, but the ISFDb help notes state that spaces constitute a different title. NB: both of these titles are variants and already exist.<br />
<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:31, 14 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Sorry for the late response. I checked my copy and you're right on both counts, so I agree with these changes. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:11, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Encounter Three ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250701; 4 PV, 2 active, 1 of which is not able to check books because they're moving, so you can tell me if your copy ends on 371, not 372; I added Archive link and the only thing on 372 is an ad. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Perhaps the scanner forgot the last page? Page 372 is present in my copy, and has the last four lines of the novel. The first ad is on page 373 (not numbered). Accepted your edit and corrected the page count. You should not submit changes like this until after the pv agrees. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:04, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Infinite Worlds ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102764; I added FantLab ID to Virgin edition; it shows many photos including the foreword, which has a title: one thousand giant steps for mankind. You PV Penguin, so if it has that title in that edition then it should be entered here; there's less than a handful of online sites besides FantLab that actually list the full title instead of just foreword. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:39, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: It's in my edition too. Corrected now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:53, 20 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== De Speekselboom ==<br />
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I found the original of the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?550663 this] on [https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/40180621664416484/ pinterest] with a small signature at left bottom that looks like Karel Thole's signature. (Who else could it be?) [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! Artist added (indeed, who else...) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:42, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==<br />
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:30, 26 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:43, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Prelude to Space cover art ==<br />
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I think the cover artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222057 here] is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27523 John Bunch]. The signature seems to be a match to his other covers. Do you agree? --[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 23:10, 28 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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: Agreed, and changed. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:51, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Return to Eden ==<br />
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Hi<br />
I notice that many of the publication records of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9231 Return to Eden] contain the appendix, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?979454 The World West of Eden] as well as the prolog and the map as separate entries, so in the interest of consistency I'd like to add them to the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27998 the publication you verified] if that's OK. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:58, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:"The World West of Eden": I believe this is present in every edition of the three Eden books. Except for the German and Italian editions, it's now added to no edition of "West of Eden", only one of "Winter in Eden" and two of "Return to Eden". If you want to add it as a separate entry, go ahead (but should it then not be in every edition of the three books?).<br />
:The Prolog: This I also believe to be present in every edition of the three Eden books, and it is added as a separate entry only in two editions of "West of Eden" ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982547 see here]). I.m.o. it should be removed from these two and be considered as part of the novel(s).<br />
:The map: I didn't find a map in any of the three novels, and also not in the database. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386408 This Italian edition] has the interior art as (map), but I think that's a mistake. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:39, 5 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Charles Sheffield / The Nimrod Hunt ==<br />
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Posted on the talk pages of active PVs: Ahasuerus, Willem H., GlennMcG<br />
<br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. There is a pub note stating "Price in Canada: C$4.95". My copy has no Canadian price. Is there a Canadian price on your copy? If we all agree there is not then I will delete this note. I also propose to add a pub note about the discrepancy in the heading of the excerpt on page [407]. This states "...coming in July 1985..." despite Nimrod Hunt being published in August 1986. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:58, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Indeed, no Canadian price. It should have been removed when a separate record for the Canadian edition was made. See also [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus/Archive/2008#Nimrod_Hunt this discussion] from 2008. It's always good to add notes about discrepancies, so please do. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:25, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
::Excellent: we have 100% agreement amongst the four of us. I have just submitted the edit to make the changes as per my original proposal and have also added the "Not to be confused..." note suggested by Ahasuerus. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:11, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Vernor Vinge / The Peace War ==<br />
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45166 The Peace War]. I will import the existing record for the excerpt of "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield which appears in the unnumbered pages at the end of the book and will adjust the Pages field to 378+[4] accordingly. I have verified that this excerpt in The Peace War is identical to the excerpt in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44718 The Nimrod Hunt]. Incidentally, since this pb of The Peace War was published in June 1985, the statement "...coming in July 1985..." at the head of the excerpt now makes sense. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:44, 13 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Agreed. I approved the two edits that were still in the queue. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:40, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Synthetic Men of Mars ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288445 this] is credited to Richard Clifton-Dey on the [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0737.html ERB Webzine site] (2nd image from the bottom). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:07, 27 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! I approved your edits and merged the three coverart titles. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3103502 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The House on Parchment Street ==<br />
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Willem, You verified our copy of the 1978 first Aladdin ed. P{{p|201369}}, where I submit correction of a spelling error. --not worth mentioning here.<br><br />
But I bring to your attention two other submissions concerning the COVERART. I doubt that Amazon image for the 1973 first edition. For now I think we should handle it this way.<br />
[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485236 Submission 5485236], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485237 5485237], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485238 5485238]. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 19:29, 11 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for catching the spelling error. I also approved the other edits, indeed seems to be the best way to handle it for now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:22, 14 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== SF: Authors' Choice -- edition statement ==<br />
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My copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29747 SF: Authors' Choice] says "Berkley Medallion Edition, June, 1968" (all caps). Note the missing leading 'A', and the comma after June. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] ([[User talk:GlennMcG|talk]]) 16:31, 17 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage after the fire of 2020, so I can't reach my copy at the moment. Please make the changes you think necessary. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Light of Zetar ==<br />
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5470988 this edit] which impacts your verified pub. Based on the [https://archive.org/details/lightsofzetar0000moor Internet Archive] scan, it does seem the title should be "The Lights of Zetar". Would you mind double checking your pub if possible? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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:I have no idea how I missed this when verifying. Please approve the edit, I changed the parent title and the publications. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:00, 21 November 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Science Fiction Stories, January 1960 ==<br />
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Just submitted a note, the cover art of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193165 this] was previously used as back cover art on [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243005+f Future Science Fiction, #28] and credited there. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:02, 7 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Submission approved, and I varianted the two titles. Also added the archive.org link to Future Science Fiction, #28. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 07:02, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== John Lennon and Sherlock ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1240300; I've added links to Lennon's stories today, the anniversary of his murder, and this one, by far the longest, is on the Arthur Conan Doyle website, but the story was titled Singularge, not Singular. I found a copy of 1 of the anthologies you PV, https://readfrom.net/sebastian-wolfe-ed/363881-the_misadventures_of_sherlock_holmes_ii.html, which has Singularge. The other PV has passed away, so if you can check and see what the title is. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:The hardcover indeed has Singularge. My paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check that one at the moment. I changed the title for now, and made a note to myself to check the paperback when I can. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:16, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Alternate Asimovs ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176861; US Signet on Archive.org has xii, I've added it in a pending edit, yours probably the same since there's a Roman numeral in the contents so you may want to add them to your PV, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 13 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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: Added another note to myself. Will check this when I see my paperback anthologies again. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:02, 18 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Inner Wheel ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5522370; I think cover art should have a 1971 date, in case PV wants to change it, since art is original to this edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:49, 27 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Corrected. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:14, 28 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Reynolds - Shadow Captain ==<br />
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?693914 here] - letting you know I'm adding the coverart credits. Thanks. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 12:20, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Sorry, but as far as I know we do not credit designers for the cover illustration, unless it is clear they also did (some of) the art. In this case the credit should sooner go to Shutterstock than Blacksheep/Lauren Panepinto (who is not even mentioned in my edition).<br />
: One other thing, if you enter data that is not from the publication itself, you should always add a note citing the source of the data. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:07, 3 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Forrest J Ackerman's credits ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check how your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=author_canonical&O_1=exact&TERM_1=Forrest+J.+Ackerman&C=AND&USE_2=pub_verifier&O_2=exact&TERM_2=Willem+H.&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication verified Forest J Ackerman] pubs credit Ackerman? The other day a user pointed out that most of Ackerman's books/stories use {{A|Forrest J Ackerman}} as opposed to {{A|Forrest J. Ackerman}}, but only 30-ish of our pubs credit him that way. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63188 Worlds of Tomorrow] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?171521 Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction] both lack the period after the 'J'. I changed both. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:48, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:16, 8 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Clarke - The Last Theorem - 'ambles ==<br />
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Hi Willem, you are PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298173 here], could you check yours and have a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Clarke_-_The_Last_Theorem_-_.27ambles this conversation]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:47, 24 January 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2¢ there. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:22, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg ==<br />
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Hi, Willem. In 2009 you verified this version of Barry Malzberg's "Beyond Apollo", which you identified as a 2nd printing: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?303874. However, per https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?182 it's actually a 1st printing. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 13:25, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:I see. That makes my edition identical to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?144821 this one]. I'll move my verification and delete the duplicate entry. Will also leave a message on Don Erikson's page, just in case. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Boucher - "S-F Books - 1960" or "S-F Books: 1960"? ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178417 The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F] to see exactly how Boucher's essay is titled - I suspect it might be "S-F Books: 1960". If it is, and it's ok with you, I'll make the change. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:21, 20 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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: Unfortunately my paperback anthologies are still in storage, so I can't check this one at the moment. I made a note to myself, but it may take some time. Hope the other verifiers can access their copy. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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::I'll try the others, thanks for responding. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov & Silverberg - To the Reader (Nightfall) ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm working through the Nightfall pubs and came across {{P|24160|yours}}. Should it include the essay title {{T|1085795|record here}}? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 04:14, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Yes, the essay is present. Added now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:30, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Hollowing Cover ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?346911; Pallencar on back flap of HC, also on copyright page of PB, should be entered here and made a variant; according to a text search on Archive.org this edition of The Hollowing and another book, Return to Avalon, are the only instances of the Pallencar variant (I've made an edit for the Avalon book). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
: Corrected. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== New Worlds from the Lowlands Publisher ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
Could you take a look at the publisher for Loggem's {{P|23801|New Worlds from the Lowlands: Fantasy and Science Fiction of Dutch and Flemish Writers}}. We have the publisher listed as "Merrick" and a publication series as "Cross-Cultural Communications". However, looking at the Worldcat and Reginald records, I think the publisher may be [https://www.facebook.com/CrossCulturalCommunications.NY/ Cross-Cultural Communications], which is located in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick,_New_York Merrick, New York]. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 26 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are right. I should have noticed this when verifying. I corrected both editions. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:52, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Fred Gambino re: Asimov's - Foundation & Empire variant ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm asking for help trying to sort out date accreditation for Fred's coverart. Could you have a look at this thread on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Asimov_-_Foundation_.26_Empire_variant Help Desk] and respond there if you can help. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:00, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
: Added my 2c there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:54, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Titan PF ==<br />
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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25373105M/The_other_log_of_Phileas_Fogg; I added links to 2 Tor editions but your PV for the Titan edition has a UK price. Does it make a difference if Archive.org link is added to this edition or does yours actually start with the UK price on the back cover unlike their copy? There weren't 3 separate editions published, were there? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Titan is a UK based publisher. I.m.o. it doesn't matter which price is printed first, the UK price is entered in the price field, the rest goes in the notes. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:50, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Quicker Than the Eye ==<br />
For {{P|27208|Quicker Than the Eye}}, can you please double check the spelling of the story on page 125? Should it be "Dorian in Excelsus" (ending in "us") instead of the current "Dorian in Excelsis"? The other editions of this pub all used "us". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:16, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Good catch! I switched the titles. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Asimov - Nightfall and Other Stories ==<br />
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Hello Willem, just to let you know that I've entered all the introductions to {{P|178377|this pub}}, replacing the generic <i>Biographical Comments in "Nightfall and Other Stories"</i> title. I don't know if this would be any use to your {{P|207809|record here}}. I've posted the same message to Tom (Taweiss). Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:33, 9 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Added my thoughts on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Asimov_-_Nightfall_and_Other_Stories Tom's page]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:26, 10 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Clock That Went Backward ==<br />
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Concerning 1881 short story "The Clock That Went Backward" by Edward Page Mitchell:<br />
We have six remaining publications as {{t|93690|The Clock That Went Backwards}} (with final 's'), which has been the parent title until yesterday. One of those primary verified is your record of the 2011 ''Wordsworth Collection of Science Fiction'' P{{p|337574}}, which I hope you will check: BACKWARD or BACKWARDS? --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Good catch! It's indeed "backward", no s. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Claesson ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=claesson&type=Name; Mats is the name in the issue of Locus you PV or is it Maths? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:08, 19 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It's Mats, but clearly the same author. Varianted now. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:16, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Georg(?) Sterling ==<br />
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Hi Willem, could you check [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1788814 this one]? Is it a typo, and should it be George Sterling instead? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:38, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep, a typo, George it is. Corrected now. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:41, 24 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Madball ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?748297; Recent Archive.org upload so I added a link in a pending edit but count is 176, not 192; needs fixing? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yes it does. Corrected now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Martin - Dying of the Light ==<br />
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Hello Willem, could you help by having a look at this {{P|127831|1st printing}} to see if it contains this title {{T|360421|Glossary (Dying of the Light)}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The glossary is present in my copy. Added to the contents now. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 03:23, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for doing that and for the title update as well, appreciated! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 03:50, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Clarke - The Fountains of Paradise ==<br />
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Hello again Willem, I'm trying to sort out {{T|1315143|this title}}. Could you please check the wording above the essay in {{P|221061|this pub}} to see if it is the same. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:09, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:The exact wording on page 298 is 'Sources and Acknowledgements', so it's correctly stated in this pub record. The date of the variant title (1979-00-00) was wrong, so I changed that to 2000-10-12, the first appearance of the variant. Hope that helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 09:59, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for looking that up. Have a look here [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Clarke_-_The_Fountains_of_Paradise Help desk] but please don't take any further actions :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:10, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Sorry, changed that before I saw your help desk entry. Sort of automatic reflex. :) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::No problem :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:32, 6 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Hyperluminal ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?483186; https://archive.org/search?query=hyperluminal+burns; Copy was just uploaded, price on back cover in barcode seems to indicate this is the US trade edition which isn't on ISFDB, does your back cover look the same or is the UK price present? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
: It's the same edition, so you can add the link. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet -> Signet / New American Library ==<br />
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Any objection to changing these to Signet / New American Library<br><br />
<ul><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38053</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?172381</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263255</li><br />
<li>https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229073</li><br />
</ul>--[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] ([[User talk:Spacecow|talk]]) 04:12, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objection from me. They all have "Published by New American Library" on the titlepage. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:18, 12 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wilderness ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?13715; I just made an edit adding Archive.org link to the HC of R. Zelazny and Gerald Hausman's novel Wilderness; you PV the paperback and many years later PV the HC, and I noticed no edition has the interior artist on the copyright page, Mariah Fox Hausman, entered; there are little animal-related drawings at the end of some chapters. Also, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124638, likely the same person, done for another Gerald Hausman book, so I assume she was related to him (wife?). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:57, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Since it's a non-genre novel, I added notes to both publications. Mariah Fox Hausman is Gerald's daughter (also added a note to the Mariah Fox biblio page). Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 05:43, 15 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Survival Printout ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5641091; I fixed the 2 obvious mistakes but LoC says ix and following page ix in the book is a blank page, so maybe it should be changed here from x to ix. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:52, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Changed the pagecount for now. I will check when my paperback anthologies come out of storage. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Charlie Stross' The New Management subseries ==<br />
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Hi, you're one of several PVs of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2776272 Dead Lies Dreaming] and/or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956347 Quantum of Nightmares], which are currently recorded as volumes 10 and 11 of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?23081 Laundry Files series]. Personally I never progressed past the first of that series, but I was listening to [https://www.writegear.co.uk/podcast/e155-charlie-stross a recent podcast interview with him], and he said that (I paraphrase) these novels were intended as a separate series to the prior Laundry Files novels - whilst obviously set in the same universe - called The New Management, but that the marketing got messed around by the early phases of COVID, causing them to appear as a straight continuation of the Laundry Files.<br />
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This is backed up by [http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2020/10/the-laundry-files-an-updated-c.html Stross' own site]:<br />
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Dead Lies Dreaming (set: December 2016: pub: Oct 2020 (US hbk/UK hbk))<br />
New spin-off series, new starting point! The marketing blurb describes it as "book 10 in the Laundry Files" but by the time this book is set—after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN and the end of the main Laundry story arc (some time in 2015-16) the Laundry no longer exists. ... The start of a new series about the New Management, Dead Lies Dreaming ...<br />
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Quantum of Nightmares (set: December 2016, pub: January 2022)<br />
Second book in the New Management spin-off ...<br />
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Season of Skulls (set: March 2017 and summer of 1816, pub: May 2023)<br />
Third New Management novel ...<br />
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and both the podcast and page indicate that there'll eventually be a different novel that will be the "real" Laundry Files #10.<br />
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I've had a quick look at the UK ebooks and product listing pages for DLD and QoN, and whilst there doesn't seem to be anything in the novels themselves that explicit states they're part of a subseries, the ebook metadata, and web pages both say they are "Book 1/2 of the New Management".<br />
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Any objections to setting these two - and the upcoming Season of Skulls - up as a "New Management" subseries of Laundry Files? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 20 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:No objections here. Dead Lies Dreaming even states it's the first of a new series set in the world of The Laundry Files. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thanks. Bob was also OK with this change, but I'll give MagicUnk a few days to express an opinion before making this change.<br />
:: Update: This change has now been made [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:19, 23 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Esteban Maroto ==<br />
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Hi, I'm searching about the cover artists of the German books of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?2598 Tongor series]. Some of them ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756824 #3], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756772 #5]) are created by Esteban Maroto, some ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758711 #2], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?758712 #6]) by Ertugrul Edirne. But [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?756581 #4] is still unknown, the style looks like Maroto, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?681796 #1] a liitle bit like Edirne. Since You own [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471833 Xotica: The Art of Esteban Maroto Volume One] I may ask You to find out if this artworks is inside Your book to confirm the author. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 18:04, 30 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I checked both Esteban Maroto books I own ("Xotica" and "Wonders"), but these illustrations are not in the books. I agree the first is Maroto style. Sorry I can't help. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:48, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks for Your assistance. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthborn ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615642 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Would you mind double checking your pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 1 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:The edit is correct. Price is on the spine and even visible on the frontcover. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:48, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories ==<br />
<br />
Hi Willem<br />
<br />
While adding the Reginald3 number to your verified {{P|364199|Science Fiction: English and American Short Stories}}, I noticed that Reginald credits this to V. S. Muray'ev "as anonymous editor". I also see that Contento1 has the editor as "V. S. Muravyev". Given that we have the editor as "В. С. Муравьев", I just wanted to check to make sure we have this one credited correctly. The Cyrillic alphabet gave me pause, but I do see the note that portions of the book are in Russian. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:27, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:It is a strange book, the notes (and contents) are correct though. "V. S. Muravyev" is only mentioned in Cyrillic characters. It seems the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?5345 publisher] did a number of publications like this. Hope this helps. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 3 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Signet Selkie ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?505; I cloned 1st printing to enter 3rd that's on Archive.org, should map date be the same as HC date since it's in HC, too, and should the map # be vi instead of 6 since novel starts on p. 1? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Question 1: 1982-00-00 was the publication date of the HC until you changed it to 1982-04-16 with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979279 this submission], so yes, it needs to be changed (I did this).<br />
:Question 2: There are no Roman numerals in the pub, so according to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages this helptext] (3rd bullet: "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages.") the page count should be [6]+426 since the map is on page [6]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:20, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yes, there are countless books here where someone entered a book date with the month (and sometimes the day) but nobody ever fixed the title date, so months (and days) are often missing from those (I've fixed many myself); however, the map said 1982-03-00 until it was just fixed so it didn't match any other date. Now that it's fixed the map should be imported into the HC; looking at the Archive.org copies I think, coincidentally, the HC also has the map on page [6]. Do you see that? If so, I'll enter that number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:43, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I left that submission in the queue because you should at least have left a message on the primary verifier's talkpage. There was also no moderator note with this submission. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:59, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::And yes, the hardcover and the map were changed to 1982-03-00 back in 2010. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:05, 5 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood ==<br />
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Please see first entry in {{P|756509|Wonderwaan winter 2018, #48: De ruiters van de Apocalyps: De dood}}. Since page number is "del", should it be removed? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes. I always mark titles I plan to remove like this. It's gone now. Thanks for noticing this! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:00, 27 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Early Pohl ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187665 I have submitted additional information in the pub note & a Goodreads external ID for this edition. The pub note additions are based on two issues of SFBC's "Things to Come" brochure (June & November 1976), & the book in hand. If you want more detailed info, see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5677206 [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 17:28, 28 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the additional information. Edit approved. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 10:09, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Baen's Spider Reprints ==<br />
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Hi Willem -<br />
<br />
I'm doing some cleanup on {{Series|24801|The Spider}} series and I see that we have a subseries for the Baen omnibus editions, {{Series|27387|The Spider (Baen)}}. I see a few issues with how we have this set up. First off, I don't know that the series should be numbered. I've taken a look at our mutually verified copy of {{P|99311|The Spider: Robot Titans of Gotham}}, and I haven't found any indication that it is numbered. I intend to to ask the sole verifier of the second book in the series to see if it is similarly not numbered. If Baen did support a separate numbering for their omnibus editions, I would argue that a publication series would be better than a title series. Assuming that they do not number them, I don't see a need for a subseries at all. Rather I think these should simply be part of the regular series. That way, we could use the content field on the title record to show which novels are included. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:00, 29 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:I have no problem with this change either way. My first thought was publication series with or without numbering, but movig to the main series is just as good. I'll leave it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 11:00, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Portuguese titles capitalisation / rationalisation ==<br />
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Hello Willem, as you [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Language#Portuguese_.28Portugu.C3.AAs.29 indicated] that you can work in Portuguese, I'm inviting you to have a look at this discussion on the [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Portuguese_titles_capitalisation_.2F_rationalisation Rules and standards] board. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:01, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I have some basic knowledge of Portuguese (therefore the level 1 indication), but not enough to add something meaningful to this discussion. Sorry, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:25, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Changes to ''The Art of Richard Powers'' ==<br />
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Hi. I hope by the time you see this you have had a pleasant holiday! Now that you are well rested and relaxed... If it is still in the queue by the time you are back, I think it would be best if you handled [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5670664 this submission], since you are also the primary PV. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:29, 4 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the notification. I put the submission on hold for now, will discuss it with Eisbernd and also invite Mavmaramis to the discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:40, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The City and the Stars ==<br />
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Willem, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5672923 this submission] affects one of your verified publications. Another mod approved the original change to the 1973 edition. I approved the subsequent submissions for the pubs with inactive pv. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:24, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Thanks John! I added a note about the source of the credit (it looks a bit weird to have a note that says "No cover artist credit/signature", on a pub that has the artist credited). --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tepper - Wizard's Eleven ==<br />
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Hello Willem, I'm looking at a possible typo in your PV'd {{P|55143|pub here}}. Reg3 states pages as xiv (as do the other extant Ace printings). Could you check this?. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:29, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Reginald3 is right. I asked GlennMcG to check his copy. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:49, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Locus #216 ==<br />
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Hello Willem, further to [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Rtrace#Zelazny_-_The_Courts_of_Chaos this conversation], could you help by having a look in your Locus #216 and telling me what Locus has for the publication of Zelazny's The Courts of Chaos. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:14, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Answered there. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 16:58, 10 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Yellow Fraction ==<br />
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You are PV for https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50846. I submitted metadata for it (actual SBN on the spine & unstated first edition, & Goodreads external ID). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 04:21, 12 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Old Masters ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?44838; 5 PV, you seem to be the only active one, note says Terry Diggins did interior artwork but he's not in the contents, searching for artist name and book title together on Google only find ISFDB and this page (which slags off ISFDB), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2022_November_22, discussing the artist and his possible identity along with the book's editor, in case you want to enter Diggins to the record or anything else you may find useful. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:44, 11 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Best of Edmond Hamilton ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35779 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting these metadata: web page 1, Goodreads (external ID), & tweaked pub note (noting not first trade edition, as some collectors consider the first trade edition as collectable; noting forthcoming from Ballantine Books; & source of price, as I have the April 1977 issue of "Things to Come".) Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 05:26, 25 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Immortals of Science Fiction ==<br />
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You are PV for this edition: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331594 I just submitted this to moderators: Submitting metadata: web page (2017 review), two external IDs (WorldCat & Goodreads). Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 10:00, 26 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== QE2 Is Missing ==<br />
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While adding link, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5729149, I added back cover mentioned in your or someone else's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:12, 31 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
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* I'm currently unable to check paperback books where I am a PV until this message is removed. Leave me a new comment containing the proposed change(s) along with a link to the pub record and consider them approved. I have moved and all my paperback books will remain packed until I can get bookshelves built in my new house. I was able to unpack my hardcover books so I am able to check hardcover and ebooks where I am a PV. <br />
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*If you're adding Cover Art or Notes to any of my Verified Pubs, go ahead and do it along with putting a comment about the changes you made in the Moderator notes.<br />
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{{welcome}} [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:03, 25 October 2020 (EDT)<br />
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== Translation preferences updated ==<br />
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Just a quick FYI that the User Preferences page has been updated to let users suppress translations on Title page. Thanks for bringing this issue to the community's attention! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 18:26, 29 December 2020 (EST)<br />
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== Five Against Venus ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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I adjusted the value of the Pub series name in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?821589 your book] to match the way we have this series recorded in the DB and updated to note to explain the exact spelling on the dustjacket. I also merged the novel record with the earlier printings - in the future you may find it easier to either use "Add Publication to This Title" on the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?276561 title level] or "Clone This Pub" from one of the previous versions (and just change any fields that are different. That way we do not need to merge post approval. While it is not a big problem for novels, it can be for anthologies and collections where if you do New and add the stories manually, we will need to merge every single story :)<br />
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I did not merge the covers as it was unclear if it is the same as the previous ones. Once you provide the cover image, if it is, we can merge those records as well. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:18, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for the advice. I'm still trying to learn the best way to do things. I'm OK with the series number change. However, I didn't originally include it because the Wikipedia entry for the Winston Science Fiction series specifically states that the series was not numbered. This book was simply the third published chronologically. [[User:Philfreund|Phil Freund]] 12:40, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
:: I did not add a number, I just changed the name of the series (shortened it a bit) to match the record we have. See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?790 our note] explaining why and how we numbered the books in this series in the DB. Hope this makes sense. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:56, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== LCCN ==<br />
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External IDs should belong to the printing that they are added to. So I moved it from there into the notes [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273238 here] and added it as an External ID to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111181 the first printing] as the LCCN record clearly says [https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchCode=LCCN&searchArg=52005494&searchType=1&permalink=y 1952]. Thanks for supplying the number! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:50, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks! I'm learning a lot from your helpful comments. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:09, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Greenwitch ==<br />
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4905687 this submission]: What identifies it as a new printing vs. the {{P|368240|existing printing}}? There is nothing listed in the notes. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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The same question for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4905708 this submission] vs {{P|368242|The Grey King}}. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:47, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Both have a different cover price of $2.95 while the originals are $1.95. The price is on the covers which I will upload once these are approved unless you want me to upload them now. I will need help figuring out how to name the upload images if that's the case. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:22, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
::Both approved. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:09, 7 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Suicide Run ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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When you see a note such as "Data from Amazon.com as of 2021-02-11." in the notes this tells you when the data was checked in Amazon. Unless you have a time machine and you are writing from 2018, changing this to "Data from Amazon.com as of 2018-04-01." is incorrect. You can change it in 2 ways:<br />
* If you are working off a copy of the book, remove the statement completely unless you are leaving some information from it (price for example in which case modify to "Data from Amazon.com as of 2021-02-11 (price)." or use the date you are submitting on if it is still the same.<br />
* If you are working based on an archived copy of the Amazon.com page taken on 2018-04-01 (your own copy or somewhere off internet),then leave it there and just add "Data verified with an archived copy of Amazon.com taken on 2018-04-01". Or something to that effect.<br />
The actual date of the book goes into the field for the date. I restored the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?823310 note here]. Feel free to re-edit based on your exact circumstances. Thanks and let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:38, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
: Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?607524 this one] and I suspect a few more :) Plus - we support 16 Amazons :) If you mean the US one, can you use Amazon.com (yes, I know... not everyone had been doing that) :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:40, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:: Sorry for the mess. I now understand! I have been pulling my book purchase info into my Readerware database for years. Part of that info is the purchase date and purchase price so I was just trying to get the dates more accurate. I also suspect that the odd prices I'm seeing in some of the publication records could be because the person from AU didn't note the price as A$ instead of just $. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:06, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
::: No worries. In this case use your date to add "Price from xxxx-xx-xx" or something like that if you want. <br />
::: No - they are really US ones but when you open Amazon.com from outside of USA, it adds taxes (and some other fees sometimes) and makes the prices funny. Or it shows the converted A$ price price (in US$ but not what a US person will see). Or used to - they keep changing things. Amazon can be... fun sometimes if you do not know how to decipher some of its shenanigans. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:23, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Ric Locke ==<br />
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The [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1899615 unneeded "k"] had been sent the way of the dodo. Thanks for finding it! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:43, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== A Light in the Dark ==<br />
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I fixed the date in the notes from 2012-08-05 back to its addition date [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?632078 here] but where is that 2012 date coming from at all? The single date difference in the other book is an AU/US thing (the editor that initially added these is based in AU/NZ so that happens like that sometimes...) but this one is way off. If this is the date in Amazon, this is a later ebook and it should be added separately and not mistaken with the 2011 one. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:47, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:I'm now confused about what date I entered. The copy I have in hand shows July 27, 2011 Revision on the copyright page. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:24, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:: Based on the other thread - did you buy it on 2012-08-05? :) Sounds like this was the date in your DB? Or you copied/pasted something from another book :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:30, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:::Mystery solved. That's exactly what I did. Bought it on 2012-08-05. Sigh....must have been distracted by the dogs barking at the Amazon delivery truck. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:41, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== The Winter Long ==<br />
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Fixed the cover artist [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521010 here] based on the note in the notes :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:34, 11 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Was Once a Hero ==<br />
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About [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4935335 this]: a book from 2011 cannot say "Second Publication Ad Astra 2013". We catalog SF, we do not live in a SF universe yet. Either the date of the ebook is wrong or your note is wrong. Based on the note, it seems like we had conflated the first edition (2011,Hellfire) with the second (2013,Ad Astra)... If you are sure, then if I were you, I would fix the date of this one, explain where the 2013 comes from and then create a clone of the book to put the known 2011 publisher and year in it... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:34, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Wow. I missed the date completely. The copyright page definitely says Second Publication. Is there any way to edit a submission or do I need to cancel this one and make the changes with a new one? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:09, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:: You will need to cancel this one and submit again. However, I recommend you submit the clone at the same time - so we do not loose the 2011 date - Just date, publisher, type and a note saying "First Edition. Data from the copyright page of the second edition" will be enough and that's it :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:14, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Fearful Symmetry ==<br />
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A few small changes/comments [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?524207 here]<br />
* There is no Foreward in the book... there is an Introduction. And we name Introductions by adding the title of the book in brackets when there is no special title, not at the start of the title. If yours does have Foreward instead, do you really have the Ad Astra book? :) <br />
* Use piped numbers to order the contents (so |1 for the intro, |2 for the novel)<br />
Let me know if have any questions [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:50, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:I have to assume the copy I have is from Ad Astra since the copyright page says "Then by Ad Astra". The ISBN and the date match. However, it definitely says "Foreword by Claudia Christian" right after the dedication in my copy which I bought from amazon.com on 2013-11-24. I looked at the current amazon.com version and it says Third Edition and indeed shows "Introduction Claudia Christian, Star of Babylon 5" immediately after a table of contents which does not exist in my copy. Suggestions? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:28, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:: So there are at least 2 different copies out there. This one is the one connected to the ASIN now... Does yours have the same ASIN (if you know)? <br />
:: I'd say to clone for yours and add the "Foreword (Fearful Symmetry)" and not "Fearful Symmetry Foreward" there and add some notes explaining the situation in the notes so it is clear that we indeed have least two. The one in the current book is fully visible so see if it matches yours - if it is the same text, we will variant... Or I can do it for you if you prefer. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:44, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:::It's the same ASIN. I'll give it a try. Likely tomorrow. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:54, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:::Rather than mess this up, would you please create the variant? I'm getting confused trying to set this up correctly. Cloning wouldn't let me remove/change the Introduction regular title. Once it's there, I can add some additional notes to differentiate it plus add the correct Foreword regular title. BTW, the text of the Foreword in my version matches the text in the Introduction of the version currently up on amazon.com. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:34, 13 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: yeah - we will need to remove later. I will fix these and come back to let you know in a bit - on my way out of the door for errands. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:51, 13 March 2021 (EST)<br />
::::: Apologies for the delay - migraine :( Your book is now [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?524207 here]. The one that is now on Amazon is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?828033 here]. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:28, 15 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::: Thanks for this. Hope your migraine situation stays clamed down. There is actually at least one other difference. The current Amazon version has a Table of Contents just prior to the Introduction which is missing from my older version. Do you want me to adjust the Amazon version entry? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:18, 15 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::: Absolutely :) Go ahead and fix whatever is needed. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:48, 15 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Poets and Piracy ==<br />
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See my update [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671085 here]. This is Amazon being a pain. If you go to Amazon US from the left menu (which is based on ISBN10), it leads to [https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_66%3A9781939233646&tag=isfdb-20 this] which is Amazon's way to show that this ISBN belongs to the Kindle edition as well (Kindle on the top of list of editions, that's where this ISBN is attached). Back in April Amazon essentially pulled the ISBNs from the API for ebooks (they removed from the UI months earlier) and now this is the only way to sort them out. So don't pull the ISBN out from a publication unless you had verified it does not belong to the book indeed or we are losing information (and yes, not uncommon not to be in the book itself so your note on that was the correct thing to do). :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:41, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I'll add that to the list of things not to do! Thanks for putting me straight! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:26, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Welcome to Amazon's shenanigans - it had been a real pain to add new ebooks lately - especially from small publishers. These guys paid for ISBNs, Amazon is hiding them :). Add a note that it is not printed in the book when it is not there though :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:33, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Is there a reason I don't always see the Amazon links section in the left menu even if the pub has an ASIN assigned? I see it for some titles but not others. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:52, 22 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: ISBN :) You see them if there is ISBN, you do not if there is no ISBN :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:04, 22 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Imperial Twilight ==<br />
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Hello, concerning [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4955622 this submission] you state you have a copy in hand, but still mention "Data from Amazon.com on 2021-04-05" in the notes without specifying which data came from Amazon. If you will primary verify, as you state, then can you clarify what data is coming from Amazon? Thanks! Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:39, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956107 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956110 this submission]. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:45, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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And [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956530 this one] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956544 here]. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 16:15, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I need some clarification. This the first time I have had this brought up. Do I assume that everything already in the publication is from Amazon.com if there are no other notes? Can you give me an example where what you are asking me to do has been done so I can model it? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:06, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Let me assist here while MagicUnk is asleep. Yes - unless otherwise stated, the data should be from the sources listed. The older the book, the more problematic it is but... well, let's assume it is always the case. :)<br />
:: See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?798535 one of my latest verifications] or [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?786412 here] or [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?701526 this one] (see the credit for the artist). By definition all data of a PV'd book comes from the book. When some pieces of it come from elsewhere (Amazon.com), the exact data that comes from there needs to be listed so it is clear what is NOT from the book. It is the same when the book is not PV'd except there the source listed with no list of what comes from it is presumed to be the source of all information not called specifically to be from elsewhere (thus Amazon.com was indeed the source of all data before you verified). Hope this makes sense. <br />
:: If it helps: usually all BUT the date comes from the book for paperbacks so changing "Data from Amazon" to "Date from Amazon" or "Exact Date from Amazon" is enough to fix the wording. For ebooks, it may be "Date and price". Or you can do "Initial data from Amazon" and then list the elements confirmed via the book (or not confirmed because they are not in the book). As long as it is clear which data is checked where and when (your PV date shows when the book was consulted so no need to date that if you do not want to), we are all good. How much more details you want to add from the book is up to you. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:55, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
::: That helps a lot. I am mostly updating and PVing ebooks I own at this point though I will get to working on the physical books I own as well. I have been doing the PVs after my changes are approved. Is that the right sequence? Looking back at the edit history of a couple of the examples seems to show a bunch of changes made after the PV was done.<br />
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:::Since I can't edit the submissions that are still pending approval to make the changes, I'll cancel them and resubmit with better wording. I'll also update the two that were already just approved to fix the wording. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:45, 12 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: The order is fine. Just make sure you add to the moderator note that you are going to PV after the changes (so you can look them over one more time) and you won’t get asked why you are dropping the sources from the notes. :) Alternatively you can PV before the changes but as the updates can get mixed up or delayed, there will be a time where you had PVd an incorrect record. So I would say to keep your current sequence, just tell us of your plans.<br />
:::: One thing I noticed a few months after I started editing was that I was writing really crappy notes when I started. Not wrong but incomplete or with issues like the one we are discussing here. So going over all your PVd books after you had done a few dozen of them (and rechecking the notes) may be useful. :) Not required or mandatory, just sharing a bit of personal experience. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:05, 12 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Amazon prices ==<br />
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So for cases like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?583350 this one], we want the historical price, not the price as it is now. We are a bibliography - it is a 2016 book, a 2016 price is better than a 2021 one. The 2021 one can go into the notes but let's keep the closest to list page at publication that we can find. I rewrote the note - see what you think about it (and feel free to rewrite). Especially with ebooks, there are a lot of special prices (and once a cheaper paper copy comes out, it tends to get lower - thus the dates in the notes). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:27, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
: PS: And let's not lose the date the book was initially entered on. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:29, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I'm inching closer to getting this right! :) Thanks for pointing out how to do this better. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:34, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
::: No worries. :) Think "historical bibliography" when you edit - the earliest price is what needs to match the date in the date field; any other prices go into the notes. Now - if you bought it at publication and have a price from then and ours is later, yours wins unless it is known to be a promotional one. ;) That's why in some books we will have a price from the publisher site and Amazon and Kobo and B&N dates added in the notes. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:58, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: So what should be done about a publication like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?691815 St. Legier] whose Amazon cost was entered from overseas and because of that has an artificially inflated price? I preordered this ebook myself and paid $5.99 on 2018-12-09. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:05, 27 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Demigod ==<br />
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I approved your submission for the e-book version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?691911 Demigod]. Unfortunately, even though the ISBN is on the title page, it's wrong, bad checksum. I eliminated it and added it to the notes. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:33, 20 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! I saw that after I did the submission and hoped a moderator would fix it so I didn't have to resumbit. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:36, 20 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Cultivar ==<br />
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979131 this submission]: What is the source of the different date? Is it within the ebook itself or just the B&N listing? If you compare yours with the Amazon Look Inside for the [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077X278FG Kindle edition] or there any differences? If it's the same book just released at different times on the two platforms, I wouldn't create a separate record. If there are other differences, then separate records would make more sense. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:13, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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Same questions for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979134 this submission]. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:15, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:The contents appear to be the same with different pub dates on the B&N, Baen, and Amazon websites. What bothers me is that the pub date for the Nook edition is 11/29, Baen edition is 11/30, and Amazon is 12/4. The existing record uses the 11/30 Baen date but the Amazon data which seems wrong. Separate records seemed the best way to deal with this. I'm not sure how to put everything into one record that I can primary verify. Suggestions?<br />
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:BTW, the same problem exists for title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2304017 Heirs to Trouble] which was published on the exact same dates. However, for that pub, there are already two different records but the data with the 11/30 date has the wrong ISBN while showing Amazon info. Again, suggestions? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:39, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::We base the information off the publication first and off secondary sources second. Since the Amazon Look Inside shows a November 2017 copyright statement, I would go with a single record dated 2017-11-00 and a publication note stating that B&N shows availability as of 11/29, Baen as of 11/30, and Amazon as of 12/4. Another option would be to date the publication to the earliest date and include the same statement. If we had similar different bookseller dates for a physical book, we would not create multiple records.<br />
::For Heirs to Trouble, I would do the same (deleting the wrong one). Thoughts? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:49, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::OK. I'll delete the submissions and create a pub update based on what you suggested using the 2017-11-00 date and put the notes into the pub record. I'm assuming I should also change the Title record date to match? Ditto for Heirs to Trouble. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:11, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Patreon editions of Glynn Stewart's works ==<br />
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Thank for submitting the Patreon editions of {{A|Glynn Stewart}}'s books and sorry about the processing delays!<br />
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It looks like what you are trying to do is to create new "publication", i.e. edition, records for these novels. They have separate and distinct publication dates and prices, so it would seem that they should be separate publication records as opposed to notes under their respective title records. Does this make sense? [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 13:30, 11 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I originally intended to create new pubs but took this approach due to the advice given on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Patreon_edition_ebooks this Help Desk posting] back in February. I'm perfectly willing to do it either way but really need a definitive answer as to which way to do it. Glynn is quite prolific and there will be plenty more of these editions to add over time. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:37, 11 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:: Oops, I must have missed that discussion! I have posted a reply with additional info and also copied the whole thing to the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Early_releases_from_Baen_and_Patreon Rules and standards discussions page]. Let's see where it takes us... [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:30, 11 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::: The Rules and Standards discussion has been inconclusive so far. I have approved the submissions for the time being -- if we decide to change the data entry standards in the future, the affected record will be easy to find by searching Title Notes fields for the word "Patreon". Thanks for submitting them! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 14:40, 15 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::::You're welcome. I'll continue to do the same thing as new books are released. If there is a change and pub records are created, I'll also be able to upload the covers. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:42, 15 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The Black Chronicles ==<br />
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Hello Phil! I approved your submission of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2892456 The Long Black], but I suppose that there are two series with the same title ''The Black Chronicles''. Could that be the case? Regards Rudolf [[User:Rudam|Rudam]] 15:04, 2 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I did a quick check on Goodreads and there are indeed two different "The Black Chronicles" series. The older one is by J. A. Sanderlin and the newer one is by J. M. Anjewierden. The one for my submission needs to be changed to a new differentiated one. What's the best way to do that? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:19, 2 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::Differentiating series names can be done by appending author's name between brackets for one of the two. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:44, 22 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Age of Deception ==<br />
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Hi. I have your submission on hold for a moment as I am wondering if there is a reason you [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5061861 cloned this ebook publication], instead of editing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?814377 the already-existing one]? We generally do not create separate US and UK versions of a single ebook UNLESS they are distinguishable, eg by having different ISBNs. If there are differences, clearly state so in the notes field. If there are not, please edit the already-existing publication record. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:43, 22 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I think I chose wrong. I forgot to check the contents in the UK listing using the 'Look Inside' feature to make sure the two essays were there. Since they are, I'll edit the existing record and cancel the held submission. When I'm done, I'll primary verify since I have the ebook in hand. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:44, 22 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dreaming Tree ==<br />
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Can you please check [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?854744 this one]? If the ebook you have is from 1997, it cannot have ISBN13. If it has ISBN13, it is a later/updated version and needs to be re-dated. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:17, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:This is definitely Version 1 of the ebook. Both Amazon and the publisher's website says the ebook pub date is 1997-12-01. Since the ISBN is only referenced on the publisher's website and not in the ebook, I'm going to remove it from the record. I'm really dubious that a DAW ebook was published in 1997 though. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:15, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Or use the ISBN10 (better than lose it - it belongs to the work after all) - some sites tend to convert when posting older books because they forget ISBN10 was a thing. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:22, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Switched to ISBN10 and submitted :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:29, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== 1636: Seas of Fortune ==<br />
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$7.73 sounds like $6.99+10.5% tax :) So I fixed the price. If it was indeed priced at 7.73, please correct it back :)<br />
Two more things:<br />
- When cloning back in time, all existing titles need to be redated back to the oldest date. I fixed them<br />
- Are the maps different from the ones in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?433154 paperback]? If not, they need merging/varianting (in case of titles/authors differences although they will need to be explained).<br />
The book is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?855944 here]. As usual - if you have questions, please do not hesitate. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:27, 8 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I bought the ebook on amazon.com for $7.73 (before tax) on 2014-01-01 so I'll change it back.<br />
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:You beat me on the redating of the titles. I was going to submit them tomorrow but I guess I should have submitted them at the same time. Is that the best practice? :)<br />
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:As to the maps, I believe they are all the same. I have proof of the author(s) in my owned copy. The title names I used are my attempt to follow the naming rules in the template. The names used in the other pubs are non-standard so I don't see that they should be a variant (plus they are missing the author credit). The ones for the paperback edition [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?496413 here] are also incomplete. What should be done? I don't see any tool I can use to merge them even if I change their titles. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:42, 8 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: I think that was the time they had the tax included on eBooks - but that’s fine. Make sure it is clear what date the price is from. :) <br />
:: Merge is done via advanced search on titles of pub level or author level duplicate finders cannot catch them. If you are still not sure how, I can post some more instructions tomorrow. :) And yes - date changes and so on should be submitted in parallel with the clone. Or someone will remind you not to forget them. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:57, 8 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::OK. I'm going to try to merge the older non-standard map titles into my new standard titles. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:10, 9 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: Shout if you need help :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:51, 9 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Epic: Fourteen Books of Fantasy ==<br />
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A few things about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858828 this one]:<br />
* Anthology is for a group of stories or poems by multiple authors; when there are at least 2 novels in the list, the type is ombinus<br />
* When using Goodreads in the notes, add the ID for it in the external IDs<br />
* Can we try importing next time so I do not need to merge that many titles? :)<br />
I fixed #1 and #3, will leave you to fix #2 and to add either notes or the first publications themselves for the stories/novels which were not merged and whose date do not match the publication date. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:58, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Crime and... ==<br />
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You may have a bit of a typo in the title of Blaze Ward's essay [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858833 here] - unless it is really called "Crime, and... (Crime and...)". I also marked the anthology as non-genre so it is clear why we have partial contents. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:26, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:Nope. That's actually how it's spelled. (Before regularization it was "Crime, And…") :) I thought about marking it non-genre but wasn't sure. So if it's more than 50% non-genre, mark it non-genre? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:03, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: So it has the stuff in the brackets in there? OK then. <br />
:: Genre publications are all in; non-genre ones only get their genre contents. So if I am skipping stories because they are not genre, the non-genre flag goes on the publication. This one is easy - with only 1 story being ours, the whole publication is absolutely non-genre. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:17, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Drat. The part in parentheses are indeed a goof. I'll fix it. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:21, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Interview credits ==<br />
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Interviews are a bit special - we cannot variant Interviewees so canonical names need to be used - see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:TitleFields:Interviewee the help page]. You can add notes in the publication and in the interview on exact credit. I fixed it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473503 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:31, 27 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales from the Archives: Volume 1 ==<br />
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Just a reminder - you could have done both edits in the EditPub. When a title has a single publication, you can change the date, authors and title of the title record inside of the publication :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:24, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Looks like I need to have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1867762 this title] removed as a variant from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2437826 this title] so that I can then merge the two titles together correctly. The correct data is in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1867762 this record]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:23, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Yup. But because you caught me in a good mood, I did the untangling for you this time :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:26, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Thank you! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:29, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== SurrenderPublication ==<br />
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462880 The maps here] have very uncommon and non-standard naming. Use "The Island of Avristar" or "The Island of Avristar (map)" or even "The Island of Avristar (map)(Surrender)" if you must but this format "Surrender (map: The Island of Avristar)" is wrong on so many levels for the DB... for one - we put the book name in the brackets, not the actual name of the entry. And map is always added on its own in brackets and not as a part of... something. Would you mind fixing these? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:08, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Sure. I thought I was following the correct naming standard for interior art which says "Interior art should have the same title as the fiction or essay it is associated with." but I'll fix these and do it the way you requested going forward . [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:02, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: That means that if the story is called "The World of A", the interior art which illustrates it is called "The World of A", not that we make up a long name out of whole cloth. See the next sentence: "If it is independent of other content, and has no apparent title or caption" - yours have its own name. If it is not attached to anything special, it will be called "Surrender" or "Surrender (map)". But as you have a name here, you can use that. We add (map) to maps to separate them from illustrations (as a practice). Hope that makes sense. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:10, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::That makes sense. Thanks. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:17, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Linking ISO disks? ==<br />
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Hi! Have you thought of adding links like I did for my Box Set[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?735216] to Warlord[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?861883] and the rest of your BAEN ISO's so they connect to the ISO disks?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:33, 10 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:If there's a better way to link them, I'd be happy to change what I've done and will do so going forward. How do you setup those links when the problem I'm working around is an omnibus included in another omnibus? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:45, 10 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I was thinking more like the link I added to Warlord[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?861883]. also the overall Omnibus ISO's could use a bit more structure(better grouping of series and collections). As for the omnibus in an omnibus I'll have to look back at previous work to see how I handled it, been away for three years and I'm a bit rusty on somethings.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:28, 10 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Thanks. I like the way you did the link on "Warlord" and will both incorporate links going forward and put them in place for the existing titles. I am thinking about what would make sense for a better structure for these CDs/ISOs but it may take a while to implement. The need to use the included omnibus regular titles instead of the omnibus title names makes it especially complex. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:13, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::Is the order of publication I see on The Honorverse[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?860583] disk the same as the ISO order? As for the omnibus problem, what you have now would appear best and the note you have helps explain it. I was thinking of ordering the books as novels, anth. , coll. then omnb. with any intros and excerpts with the appropriate section and order numbers displayed.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:12, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::The ISO is an exact image of the CD so it has the same directory structure. There is a display order on the index webpage that tends to show titles ordered within series for the focus author for the CD. The extra titles are a bit more variable on how they are shown but most often just shown by title grouped alphabetically by author on a secondary webpage. I could try to change to that sequencing but that still leaves the omnibus title problem (grrr...). I rather like your idea for grouping alphabetically by type. That would let me put the omnibus titles last as they are now. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:11, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
Go a head and reorder them. Lets just do the Honorverse one first, get it displayed right and use that for the others.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:42, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I was thinking a little more aggressive. Such as giving the Honor Harington novels a single number say 2 and the ten on the list would 2.1. 2.2, 2.3 etc. The intro about the disk would be 1. Anything with a series would get its own number. If you want I can do this one as an example. I may display the numbers on some to see how it looks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:06, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::Go ahead. I'm great at following good examples! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:56, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::How does this look. Each number is the beginning of a series or a single book(The Honorverse[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?860583]).[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:28, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: I kinda like it but someone should add a note inside of the publication explaining the numbering and what is showing - because otherwise someone will helpfully put the visible ones behind pipes sooner or later :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:45, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::Note added.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:30, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::I like this and can do it for the other CDs/ISOs. There's one change I'd like to see in the sequencing which is to move the "Worlds of Honor Anthologies" to immediately after "War of Honor". That puts all of the Honorverse titles together per the theme of the CD as well as making the sequence match the title sequence on the website index page of the CD. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:56, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
OK, made the change in in title order.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:27, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! That looks great! I'll use this as a template for the rest of the Baen CD-ROM Library series. I'll start fixing the rest of the existing series members and then go back to adding new members.<br />
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: A question. Now that we have a solid version for the Honorverse CD, should I just clone it and make the minor changes needed to create the ISO title as well? I do have the ISO in hand so it would be easy to do. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:33, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::Not a subject I known much about. I thought the ISO was the CD ROM. If their two different things than yes.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:38, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Had a quick look at the subject and and the ISO is the download version and the CD ROM was the physical. Got it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:42, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::I've been thinking some more about the ISO versus CD-ROM situation. I've been planning that each type should have its own separate title but am I wrong? Should there only be a single title but two publications, one for the CD and a different one for the ISO with (ISO) added to the title name? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:21, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::: IF the ISO is the downloadable version of the disk, they get one Title, two publications if their titles match. If they don't match, they get separate titles and one of them become a variant of the other. If all you want is to do is to add the ISO on the title so they are separate, don't :) Just use the same title and explain the format in the notes of the publication. We do not do separate titles for ebook, hc, pb and cd after all. No reason to do it differently here IF they are the same. See how [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2931192 all formats] use the same title for example (yeah, I know - more complicated but the principle is the same). We do not spin a new title for format change, we do it for title/author/language change and contents change.Hope that makes sense. :)[[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:29, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::Single title it is with two publications. I have a little bit of cleanup to do! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:41, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::: Famous last words. There is always some cleanup to be done around here... :d [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:48, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales from High Hallack: The Collected Short Stories of Andre Norton, Book 1 ==<br />
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The Cleanup Report [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/cleanup_report.cgi?93 Publication Title-Reference Title Mismatches] show [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442115 Your pv pub], too. So the question is how the title on title page is printed? The title of publication has to be the same as the collection title. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 15:47, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:The title page reads exactly "Tales from High Hallack The collected short stories of Andre Norton, book 1". Should I make this pub a variant of the current title to fix the problem or is there something else that should be done instead? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:00, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Yep, unmerge yours and variants will need to be created. As a rule - if you are changing a publication title, you either change the title one at the same time (if there is only one pub) or you split out from the bigger title and get yourself a variant. . And I wonder if the other ones do not need some massaging. I'd check with their PVs to see what is on their title pages if I were you. Ha, one of them is you. How convenient. So both ebooks have different title pages? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:33, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::How do you unmerge a title? And yes, both ebooks I own have different title pages! However, I just double checked [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?454465 this one] and it is correct. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:54, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: Go on the title page. Look on the left for a menu called "Unmerge Titles]. :) There is a help page once you start the process ([http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:UnmergeTitles here is it directly]. One warning - never use that to try to pull novels out from omnibuses - it will create a new novel with the name of the omnibus. This is what Remove Titles is for. The UI WILL show you the ability to uunmerge from inside of the omnibuses but it is... not what you want. In this case no omnibuses involved so no issues. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:06, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::Thanks! I looked for the tool on the pub instead of the title. Sigh... Unmerge submitted. I'll create the variant once it's approved. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:14, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::: Think of it this way - you remove title from a publication which kicks a title from a pub but does not change any titles so it belongs inside of a pub menu. When you are splitting titles, you want each of the publications to keep a copy - you will get 1 or more new titles. The newly created titles get their names and authors and dates from the publication you split it with (so if you check 4 checkboxes on that screen, there will be 4 new titles); the old one remains the same. Which also means that sometimes the old one needs re-dating - if the early guys had been kicked out, it is the reverse process of importing future dates. And sometimes the 4 you just split out need to actually be merged together :) Always fun around the DB :) <br />
:::::: PS: First title wins in such cases on the variants - so the parent will be the first one (date-wise) unless there is a very good reason for a reversed variant. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:27, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::: Second PS: As "The Collected Short Stories of Andre Norton" is the series and we do NOT record the series as part of the name of a book even when it is there on the title page (we use simplified titles), are you really sure you want to carry that long name and not just "Tales from High Hallack: Book 1". This will be more in sync of how we record titles (and sooner or later someone will decide to clean your title for you. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:30, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::::Changed the title and pub names to "Tales from High Hallack: Book 1". So, since this title date is 2 days earlier than "Tales from High Hallack, Volume 1", "Volume 1" should become the variant, correct? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:13, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::::: Yup. I did not look but make sure the coverart title is also fixed. And you technically have a few essays that need splitting as well - the ones that carry the book name on them (if we want to be by the rules as strictly written anyway. I usually do not press too much on that when the difference is in Book/Volume/Vol. or 1/I and similar but the cover title will need to be fixed). :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:23, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
Thanks for solving that problem. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 13:52, 15 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Glad to help. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:44, 15 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales from High Hallack, Volume 1 ==<br />
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HI! The title says Book 1[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442115] but the cover illustration is Volume 1. Is the cover image incorrect and the inner title "Book 1". THanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:06, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
: See the thread just above this one. :) We do need a note on the discrepancy in the Pub notes though. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:12, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I'll add the note when I correct the titles of the two essays. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:43, 15 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The Honorverse Disk Authors ==<br />
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If I approve [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5125295 this], you will have a publication author different from the reference title author which is a big no-no around the DB. I do not see any other updates pending so there are two ways this can go technically:<br />
* You can split the title and variant it to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2925798 this] once I approve the author change.<br />
* Both pubs and the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2925798 here] get unknown as an author. <br />
As there are no moderator notes telling me what direction you are going and this single update will leave everything midway, I am making sure that you plan to finish the needed updates - so I am checking on the plan before I approve. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:06, 20 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Oof. I did this trying to follow the advice given near the bottom of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Baen_CD-ROM_Library this] Help Desk topic. At the time, I was thinking that the physical CD-ROMs would have a different title than the ISO images so one could be "uncredited" and the other be "unknown". I changed my mind and have since been working under the assumption that they are just two different publications of the same title and forgot about the author differences. While writing this note, I've also come to the conclusion that I have been misapplying the advice since with the ISO images, I am still working with a primary source, not a secondary source as I somehow originally assumed. Therefore, the author for all of the ISO images should be "uncredited" just like it is for the CD-ROMs. Does this make sense? It if does, I'll change the author for the titles and pubs I've already created for ISOs from "unknown" to "uncredited" and cancel this submission. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:34, 20 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: I’d use uncredited for both. Unknown on a publication is for cases where we literally have no idea who may be credited as the author because the only source we have has only a title but no author. Very very rare. We are more likely to variant into unknown (when we know that there is a ghost writer but still have no clue who). Add the note that the credit is based on the format you have if that will make you feel better. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:44, 20 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Imports, Imports, imports... ==<br />
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You know that we have an Import function and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/find_pub_dups.cgi?864571 this] could have been avoided (including all the typing), right? Go and merge things now please :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:12, 21 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I haven't used Import enough that it even occurred to me. I'll certainly use it in the future - there are still another 11 Baen CD-ROM Library titles to do so there'll be plenty of opportunity! BTW, it hasn't been a lot of typing. I'm using a spreadsheet and doing a bunch of cut and paste both to build the entries where possible and then to enter them into the Add Omnibus form. I'll get the merges submitted later tonight. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:02, 21 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Typing or copy/pasting and then merging and then having someone to approve the merges. Still more work for you and for the moderators than it could have been. :) Import is your best friend. If it is one title, import or merge will take the same time so I tend not to care what people do - I will point to the import but won't insist. But for big omnibus editions? Well... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:15, 21 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The 1634: The Baltic War Disk ==<br />
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This is a huge one[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?865041], I think adding some reference numbers in notes to the corresponding sections might help for this one.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:08, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:It is huge and the most complex one so far. Are you thinking something like a section called "Title Quick Reference" with entries formated "Title #n" "Series/Universe name"? If there's only one title in a series or it's a bunch of unrelated titles, that could make the notes huge as well (and some of them are already big because of the omnibus notes). Do you have an example I could model on or adapt? For that matter, I'm going to have to go back to the other Baen CD-ROM Library titles and do the same expansions of the anthologies and collections. Doing the expansions for this one, I discovered some variations in a couple of the contents that I hadn't originally noticed and that we need to track. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:18, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::You have existing lists in notes already why not add the the sorting # to this. I'll have a better look today or tomorrow and maybe do a sample test.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:32, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:::Great! BTW, the existing lists in the notes are only for the contents of the omnibus titles since there wasn't any way to include an omnibus inside another omnibus and I didn't want to lose track of the titles that were actually included on the CD-ROM/ISO image. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:21, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Minor change as a first idea I underlined series and collection titles with description beside three of them. Are there more titles to come, or is this complete?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:25, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::That looks good. I think there's a space missing between the titles and the descriptions though. What do you think about underlining all of the omnibus titles in the notes so they stand out more? In any case, all the titles and notes are there and this pub is complete. Once we settle on this formatting, I'm ready to clone this pub to create the ISO pub version. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:15, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Adjust and add as you see fit, I'm done for the night and won't be back unto tomorrow evening. I have some other ideas but they will have to wait. :)[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:30, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::I made some changes that I think help with clarity. Let me know what you think. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:26, 26 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Yes much better. It looks and feels more organized and easier to follow. How many more disc are there?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:48, 26 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I'll put the same changes in the other existing titles. I have another 3 CD-ROMs in hand plus another 10 ISO images. If someone else has the missing CD-ROMs, they should be able to clone the ISO images and make the appropriate changes to match the format of what has already been done. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:15, 27 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Isaac Asimov writing as Paul French ==<br />
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As per the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PublicationFields:Author help page]: <br />
* "For example, Isaac Asimov's "Lucky Starr" books were originally published under the pseudonym of Paul French, but later reprints were given both names: "by Isaac Asimov, writing as Paul French". In these cases you should still enter Paul French as the author and record the dual credit in the notes.". <br />
I fixed it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869757 here]. And yes - we probably have a few copies that need fixing but still - let's not add new copies with the wrong author credit :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:04, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
:Thanks! I cloned it so I didn't think to check the fields help. I suspect the clone source is also wrong but it doesn't have the note so I can't be sure. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:33, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
:: Well - it made me laugh. It is literally the example we are using to explain how to add the author in these cases. :) Sometimes some of the very old books are added before the rules were agreed on (and sometimes an editor was just asleep at the wheel). So... always check things when they look interesting. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:46, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
::: One thing: As we always go by the title page of the book I assumed that when you said "The author is shown as "Isaac Asimov writing as Paul French".", that's what you meant. If that is not the case and the title page says something else, we need to update again and explain what says what and where (and the title page will determine how we handle the author field). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 09:02, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
::::All is well. That's exactly what it has on the title page. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:17, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Four Roads Cross ==<br />
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As Paw Press is a UK company, the Price field will contain the UK price [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871463 here]. Out of curiosity: why adding the German price to a UK book? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:35, 6 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:OK. Missed that in the fine print. :) Do I need to make that change for his other pubs where I have both prices? It was simultaneously released on Amazon in the US, UK, DE, and AUS. I had a link to the amazon.de site for the price so I thought I'd include it. If it's a problem, I won't do it in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:22, 6 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:: There are multi-country publishers and there it is fair game. But the ones domiciled in one country? Unless they are publishing for a different country, we want their home currency. With ebooks, if the price is weird (2.62 or something), look around the other 3 English language Amazons and see where the price is "proper" - 99% of the cases, that's your proper domicile for the book. With other languages, it is trickier. Usually language follows the Amazon (except for Spanish (Spain/Mexico) and Portuguese (Amazon Spain, Germany or Netherlands for the European version; Brazil for the Brazilian where you need to figure out which side of the ocean that edition is from) but there are publishers who actually price in US$ - and just convert for the non-US markets even when the text is not English - usually self-publishing or publishers which belong to authors.<br />
:: BTW: I fixed one more this evening. You can add as many prices as you want to the notes so the German one is not a problem - I was just curious). But yes - if you have other cases like that and the same publisher published, I'd swap them. One day we may have a multi-field in there so all prices will be on equal footing but in the meantime - follow the publisher. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:31, 6 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14492 Four from the Witch World] ==<br />
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Hi, I just saw that this publication has February stated in the notes but March (1989-03-00) in the publication date field. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 01:39, 9 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:Thanks for catching that. Fixes to the pub and title have been submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:57, 9 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== The Expanding Universe Volume 3 ==<br />
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In your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?646894 this anthology], will you check on the spelling of the story by T. M. Catron? Is it "Fugitive's Gamble" or "Fugitives' Gamble"? I ask because I have the printed version of the anthology and mine is spelled "Fugitives' Gamble". Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:15, 17 December 2021 (EST)<br />
::The ebook shows "Fugitives’ Gamble" as well. I missed that. Go ahead and make that title change. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 20:05, 17 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Shadow of a Dark Queen ==<br />
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Regarding your changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29843 Shadow of a Dark Queen], shouldn't the 'Novindus (map)' be page [6] since the page number is not printed? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 23:21, 17 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:My interpretation of the page number rules is that the [#] construct is only used for pages that are before the numbered pages <b>and</b> where the unnumbered page would be before the first numbered page even if it is only derived from the first actual printed page number. In this case, the publisher apparently started numbering with the first printed page after the cover which is the half-title page but doesn't actually print a number on a page until page 8. Hope that makes sense. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:35, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:: The first numbered page is page 8. The map is in the series of unnumbered pages before page 8. The second bullet point under "Pages without a printed page number" [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PubContentFields:Page here] applies, making this [6]. This also explaines the numbering in the last note, "Cast of Characters" spans pages [7] - 9. <br />
:: The first bullet point only applies to pages within a series of printed number. You have correctly shown page 11 without brackets even though it is unnumbered, since it occurs after page 8, the first numbered page. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:20, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::OK. Looks like I overthought it. I'll make the change. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:43, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: I only pointed this out because I think you are doing a great job and I can tell you care. Every additional pair of eyes that look at a record have the potential to make that record better. Thanks for your hard work! [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:07, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::::Appreciated. There are so many twisty details in this application that it's challenging getting everything right! Cheers! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:34, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Belgarath the Sorcerer ==<br />
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Phil, there are two problems with your changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?196017 Belgarath the Sorcerer].<ul><br />
<li>The page number 'fep & bep' is not allowed by standards. I'm suprised this got by the moderator. Pick either fep or bep.Then, change the relevant note to "Endpaper map copyright © 1995 Larry Schwinger" used on both front and back endpapers. This wording is just for illustration, use whatever feels correct.<br />
<li>'Larry Schwinger' is an alternate name of 'Laurence Schwinger'. Make [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2959761 Belgarath the Sorcerer (maps, endpaper)] a variant of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1488175 Belgarath the Sorcerer (gatefold map)] using the top half of the make variant form. Tell me if this is new to you, I will do it and explain variants more fully. The best way to have hadled this title would have been to import [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982486 Belgarath the Sorcerer (gatefold map)], That's what all the other pubs are using. We now the same map with different titles. If you wish to go this route. just merge your title with the last one I showed you.</ul> [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:34, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Agree about the page number and will change. However, if anything, the gatefold maps are the variant because they are from the paperback editions which were published later than the hardcover editions. Plus the endpaper art is specifically credited to Larry Schwinger on the copyright page so the record needs to show that even though 'Larry Schwinger' is a variant of 'Laurence Schwinger'. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:52, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:: Ignore the names of the titles for a minute. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5176564 This edit] linked the two titles so that they would both appear on the cononical author's bibliography page [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25806 here]. Take a look at [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries Help:How to record a variant title] under the section 'Two Existing Entries'. <br />
:: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5176572 This edit] not technically necessary, changed the names to show your map name as the parent. To see why it wasn't necessary, look at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1488175 the parent] title. Notice that both variants exist. If you click on any of the pb pubs, it still shows the 'gatefold' title, even though I changed the name of the parent. The same would have been true of the hc if I didn't change the title. Do you understand? Walk through all of this then ask questions. When this is clear, we'll look at another type of variant. (Unless you don't want to.)<br />
::I left the page number for you to fix. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 19:45, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::Thanks. I'm still wrapping my head around the variant process. In this case, I forgot that you have to create a variant parent if the author is not the cannonical author name. I see how to do it but hadn't done it myself yet. (Keeping the submission flow moving while waiting for approvals is painful.) I can think of these types of variants:<br />
:::*Straight title name variants where the author has the same name but the title varies. (These are straight forward and I have done them as well as Title unmerge and then variant.)<br />
:::*Author name variants where the title has an author where the author is a variant of the cannonical author name (as above). (Haven't done these but think I see how now.)<br />
:::Are there others? (BTW I may be slow responding for the next few days due to the holidays.) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:30, 19 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: No problem, answer when/if it suits you mood/schedule!<br />
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==== Variants Continued ====<br />
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The situation you reference above, new title under an alternative name where the parent doesn't exist is explained in [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#A_Single_Entry_Under_an_Alternate_Name A Single Entry Under an Alternate Name]. The mechanics of all variants fall into either section one or section two. <br />
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Here are some 'Alternate Names with Canonical Titles' which you have created. Taking care of them will give you some practice. I'm not saying whether a parent exists or not, you will have to determine that yourself.<br />
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307199 Claire N. Vaccaro], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?334875 Travis Taylor], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?43721 Elizabeth Scarborough], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11708 Karen Rigley], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19205 Kevin Johnson], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23016 C. Lee Healy], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?14656 Pauline Griffin], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?135430 Louis Glanzman], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25920 Donato].<br />
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You asked what other situations require variant treatment.<br />
*Translations are handled via make variant. (To see the example, make sure your preferences are set to Display translations on Author and Series pages <b>All</b> and 'Check' Display translations on Title pages) In 2019, an Englsih language magazine published a translation of an Austrian poet's German language poem, from 1976. <br />
# [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2937475 This title] is the English translation created the same as any other content title.<br />
# [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5138990 This variant] creates the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2941471 German parent]. Note all the fields we can access in one step. Here is how it looks on the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?213941 Author's Bibliography].<br />
*Serializations are also handled via make variant. A serial title is merely another form of content title. Make variant is used to link the serial to a title record. [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_connect_serials_to_titles Here] is the relevant help section.<br />
** [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5169715 This variant] creates the following [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956770 title record] (note the rest of the serial installments have also been linked) resulting in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?275910 Author's Bibliography].<br />
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I know you could have looked all this up when you needed to, I did this to give you an easy reference while you get comfortable with the process. Hope it is of some use. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:36, 19 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Polgara the Sorceress ==<br />
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I was going to supply the promised primary varification for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?196061 Polgara the Sorceress], but, I see the same problem as 'Belgarath the Sorcerer'. This one just needs the page number corrected, it has already been properly varianted. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:47, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Submitted fixes for this one. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:32, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Keltichronicon ==<br />
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We only add the publication title as a disambiguation for generic essay titles (Introduction, Foreword, etc.). We do not add it to fiction. If the author reuses a fiction title, we record the titles as per the publication and add a title note regarding the contents being different. So for the duplicate Keltichronicon titles, I added a title note of 'Author reuses "Keltichronicon" title in multiple publications. Do not merge without verifying content is the same.' vs. the proposed disambiguations. Feel free to tweak the notes to fit the content better if needed. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:12, 30 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:Thanks! One more item on my "Now I know how to do it right" list! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:33, 30 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Balance of Trade ==<br />
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I rejected [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5193995 this one] for now. These two types of essays can be indexed if the editor finds them substantial (like the essay I added [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?868181 here] for example). At 2 pages each (possible 2 pages anyway based on page numbers), these may be worth retaining as essays. As there is a PV, Bob can check the book and decide if they are worth having or they are just blurbs. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:24, 11 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:OK. I'll check with him. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:48, 11 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: After reviewing the Help text, I've decided that they meet the criteria and won't re-propose removing them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond the Veil ==<br />
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Hello. I have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5200892 your submission] on hold as I am in doubt about the correctness of the date. In the notes you state "Gutter code "Q11" (March 1986) on page 213 indicates probable first printing", while recorded date is 1986-05-00. Could you check and/or clarify? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:46, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:That is the correct gutter code. I took the month from the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Gutter_code#:~:text=Please%20note%20that%20%22gutter%20code,the%20week%20of%20the%20year. Gutter Code Help page]. This seems to be a common issue for all three of the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?36342 Sacred Band of Stepsons / Beyond] series SFBC editions. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:57, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Do we know where the recorded date of May 1986 is coming from? Should we update it to March ? I'm not an expert on gutter codes and its relationship with publication dates, but I'm wondering... [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:50, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Locus1 as it says in the first note. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:51, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::Oops, sorry about that. :) Thanks for the clarification! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:22, 19 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Mageborn Traitor Re forced reject ==<br />
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Hi Phil. I had to do a forced reject of this title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5202566] the other night. You can copy the work from what I see in the link and resubmit. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:10, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Thanks. Resubmitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:23, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Runelords ==<br />
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Hi Phil! You want to change the title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5207347] to the British variant "The Sum of All Men" plus add interior art under that title in the American edition. Just checking if this is a copy paste error or am I missing something. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:01, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:The title page shows "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men". Since the series name isn't supposed to be in the title, that leaves the title as "The Sum of All Men", hence the changes. Am I misapplying the standard? BTW, the cover only shows "The Runelords". [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:18, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I wonder if all Tor books have this on the title page, have a look at this in notes[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231937]. If that's the case than the title would be "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men", which doesn't affect the series name. A bit more investigation maybe needed.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 14:54, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::If you click on[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?527034] External ID "US" and use look inside the title page is "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men" , also the look inside Paw Prints shows the same.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:00, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::If you use look inside of other "Runelord" series Books the "Tor Books for David Farland" just abbreviates the title to "The Runelords"[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:08, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::Looks like I made the wrong change and it should be "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men" for both the title and the new interior art. Once that's done, I'll need to Unmerge the title and make it another variant. <br />
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::::I also question if [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46402 this pub] actually exists or was a placeholder that should now go away. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:11, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::: Placeholder for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119701 this one] (if you want another opinion). Zap it. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:45, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::::Delete submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:50, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
: I think its safe to say all the pb's are the same but what about the hc's, no one has PV one and look inside is useless.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:54, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Deleted , will be gone till later this evening.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:56, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I'm working from a physical copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119701 US first edition] and will PV once all my changes are in place. If you reject [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5207347 this submission], I'll resubmit everything along with the title and interior art title set to "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men", then Unmerge and variant. Alternately, I think you can correct that submission as a mod and save one more approval. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:18, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::: You can self-reject - go to your pending changes and you will see the option. :) Mods can not correct - we can approve or reject. Then we can fix/restore (aka copy things back) but we cannot modify a submitted change. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:21, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Deleted , will be gone till later this evening.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:56, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Here are several ideas to fix this.1-Leave everything as is.2-Change all the pubs and title record to "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men" hc & pb(high probability this what all of them are) and if in the future the hc's have only "The Runelords" on the title page they can be unmerged and made variants. 3-Change only the pb's and unmerge the hc's now and make them variants, when a hc is PV in the future the title record can be left or reintegrated back to the longer title. Option 2 creating the hc variant is the easiest as a moderator, option 3 more work now and probably reintegration later. Thoughts?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:27, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I agree with option 2. I think it's the most likely as well, especially since the Look-Inside of the ebook implies a 7th printing of the mass market pb as its source. I've submitted the changes for the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2977728 interiorart] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?955433 maps] titles to make sure they aren't missed. The rest would be better done by a mod. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:57, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Away from computer will be back this evening. Will walk you through process this evening.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:43, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::More than happy to learn something new. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:23, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Ok. STEP 1-In edit this pub change the title & cover art in each pub to the longer version. STEP 2-in main tile record[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?26785], click "Edit Title Data" & change to longer title. STEP 3-Pick a pub ie[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278361] and click cover link, again "Edit Title Data" to longer title. Since "The RuneLords" title is already a variant, the new title just replaces it and nothing else to do. Have at it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:09, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I think I submitted all of them except [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46404 this] where I asked the sole PV to check it and change if necessary. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:53, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::One more, main title record[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?26785] to change, if you look at a random pub[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119701] the title in Fiction and Essays is still "The Runelords", once changed than all done.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:32, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Historical Notes (The Dragon Waiting) empty record ==<br />
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Hi Phil! Just as a heads up when unmerging records you have to check if the title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2977911] record is now empty. If more than one pub is connected to it this is not a problem. Two unmerged, one left empty which needs to be deleted. I'll let you submit the deletion.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:43, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:41, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:: If you are unmerging every single book, then you could have just renamed the thing instead (or unmerged the ones that need a new title/author and renamed whatever remains behind) - that way you don't have anything to clean after that. That way we also don't lose the history of the old (now deleted) title. Either way works at the end - but just heads up for a possible option. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 10:47, 28 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::: Thanks. In this case it was one I had just added so no real history to lose. I'll keep it in mind though. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:20, 28 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::: Yep, noticed that - but it may be valid for other similar cases. You cannot submit the delete until the unmerge is approved (the system won't allow it). If you do a unmerge+rename, or just a rename (if all pubs need the new one), you can submit in parallel. As I said - just mentioning another way to get you to the same place. Thanks for taking care of this one :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:35, 28 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Temporary Agency ==<br />
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In your recent change to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34715 this] pub, you seem to have mistakenly used Libris-XL instead of LCCN for the external entry. You may also want to PV it while you're there. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 16:14, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:The record shows he verified it on the 18th. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:36, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::My bad. It was indeed LCCN and I did the PV too quickly. Fix submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:57, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Nice to see a non-transient PV. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 19:29, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Bujold ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=bujold&type=Name; Since Lois McMaster Bujold has dozens of credits and Lois Bujold only has one, I think they're the same and the shorter name should be made a variant; the longer name has several interior art credits, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Agreed. Variants submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:19, 1 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Iron Butterflies ==<br />
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https://archive.org/details/voyagersnovel00lord; You just PV'd this book, and I searched for more info and found the ISBN on OL links to that book on Archive.org, which has Iron Butterflies' ISBN on the copyright page but a totally different one on the covers. Don't know if that's useful or not. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:Interesting OCLC problem. I saw that when preparing my edit for "Iron Butterflies" and have added the correct WorldCat ID in that edit. I didn't make a note of the OCLC lookup problem though. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:47, 7 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Magic Cup ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?311; Futura edition's art has 1979 dates because that's original edition's date; not sure if you're aware. --[[User:Username|Username]] 16:17, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:I assume you are talking about the interior art. Since the Futura cover is different from the US edition, I'm not sure that the interior art isn't different as well. I couldn't find any signatures on the illustrations so I have to assume they are different. That's why I used the 1984 date. I'll happily change the date and author if someone can prove art is the same. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:31, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: https://archive.org/details/magiccupirish00gree; Link is for 1979 McGraw-Hill edition; this, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144215029789, shows, in photo #7, an illustration with a page of text next to it; I typed the phrase "feeding the chickens" from that page into the search box of the Archive copy and 1 hit came up, which was a page of text with the exact same illustration opposite. So I think they're the same. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:34, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:::You are correct. I'll change the artist to "Donald Dean Illustration Design" since that's how it is credited in the 1979 edition. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Magic Cup: An Irish Legend ==<br />
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Hi Phil. I think the name change[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5222894] maybe a copy paste error? If so I'll approve and remove extra bit. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:32, 10 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:Saw second submission looks more like a company name and not and individual name, so I'll approve.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:37, 10 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: See entry above this one for an explanation; I helped him out. --[[User:Username|Username]] 21:39, 10 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Pharaoh Contract ==<br />
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Please talk to the other active PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5225654 here] to verify that their book also have the complete printer key and the same Canadian price. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:41, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:This was approved by GlennMcG. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:19, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Approved :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:28, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Voices from the Sky ==<br />
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Hi Phil. Just a reminder to unmerge the changed title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?966414] and then merge with the existing variant.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:36, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for the reminder. Unmerge submitted. Will merge after approval. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:16, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Children of Anthi ==<br />
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Hi Phil, <br />
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5242631 This] is a bad update. The original note reads: <br />
* "Stated 1st printing of 1985 Ace ed.". <br />
Look at the note you are trying to put in its place<br />
* "No printer's key.". Nothing about a stated first printing. <br />
Which means one of two things:<br />
* Your book is not the same as the one you are trying to edit - so approving this edit will essentially invalidate the 3 primary verifications we have and will lose us information.<br />
* Somehow 3 PVs, two of them active, missed that the notes say "STATED 1st printing" while the book does not say anything of the type - which is possible but they need to check their books. <br />
Please discuss that with the 2 active PVs -- and figure out what the case is here. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:58, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:Would you also put [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5242633 this submission] on hold for the same reason. It's the same issue and the same active PVs. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:22, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Done. I'd hope any moderator would do the same but mistakes happen. Now I have them both so you can work with the PVs, figure out what is going on and then we can deal with that. :) I opened the first one almost by mistake - I have a lot of on holds on the board from Fixer (our robot) and my finger slipped into yours - and decided to hold it as I was there anyway). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:32, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
::Used this a lot in the past "Stated 1st printing of 1985 Ace ed." as a catch all for something like "Ace Original / July 1985". These where early days in the database and less detail was used.. As it is I no longer have the books & several hundred others. Need to figure what's gone and remove verifications.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:25, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Found the books in the group not sold, replied to Phil on my page.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:09, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
Submission update. Mods can't approve submissions on hold by other moderators, will have to wait for Annie to pull hold or approve submission.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 12:08, 27 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Thor's Hammer ==<br />
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Hi Phil. One of the titles needs to be unmeged{http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?31585] & a new variant created. Since there are reviews I would unmerge the 1988 Thor's Hammer, next, update the current 1979 title record to the 1979 pub title & last made the newly created 1988 title record(just unmerged) a variant.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:45, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Yep. Had already planned to do so but had to get the pub title change approved first. Have submitted the unmerge and the title rename. Will create the variant after those are approved. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:28, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Excellent. Next lesson.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:57, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Faerie Wars ==<br />
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Had to do some fixing for the name change on this title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?905752]. In this case there is another Interior Art title connected to it which caused a bit of a mixup in the variant display. I had to change the name back to fix the parent title record them unmerge the Faerie's Wars title, then change the name to Royo, next use advance search to find the parent cover art title record # since it already exists & create the new variant. I was thinking of walk you through the steps but I'll be busy for the next few days & it's probably better to learn the easier changes first. The second Royo was a stand alone title so only had to create a variant to the parent name. Cover art changes can be a little more complicated than fiction titles. Hope this helps.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:59, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Link to: Series Number of Dresden Files short fiction==<br />
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As you have PVd a Jim Butcher Dresden Files collection, you might be interested in this topic: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Series_Number_of_Dresden_Files_short_fiction Series Number of Dresden Files short fiction]. If you have any comments, suggestions or objections then please post them to this topic on the Community Portal so that we keep the whole conversation in one place. Thank you. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 09:52, 4 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Those AddVariants ==<br />
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I approved these two by mistake because my brain is still waking up. Careful with the two menus:<br />
* AddVariant - create a new VARIANT. I almost never use that menu - you can use it to add translations or new spelling of titles (but it is better to add the book and then use MakeVariant) or when you need a new empty variant (very very very rarely and well documented).<br />
* MakeVariant - create a parent. That's the menu you usually look for.<br />
I reversed the two Romas Kukalis variants you just added :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:31, 7 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Drat! I'll watch out in the future. Thanks for fixing them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:29, 7 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Folk of the Air ==<br />
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As you verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39978 this one] last month, I hope you have easy access to it. Can you check if the Farrell character is Sam Farrell or Joe Farrell? I have a feeling that we have a name switch in this series which may explain some things around the series name - so let's check the text so I can figure out what we need to do. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:42, 9 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Wow! I'd expected to be able to do a quick skim and answer this question but the character is constantly referred to only as Farrell with no first name mentioned. I'd have to reread this to definitively answer since there's no ebook edition to do an electronic search within. That said, I found multiple reviews on Goodreads [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58647344-the-folk-of-the-air sic] where he is referred to as Joe Farrell. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:20, 10 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: No worries, I found those - just wanted to see if there is something easily foundable in the book. If not, then we are good - I will operate based on what I have. Thanks for checking! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:04, 10 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Amazon dates ==<br />
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Hi! I saw yesterday that you set the date for a 1976 anthology to 1976-01-01, basing it on Amazon as 'exact date' (I seem to remember that it was one edited by Martin H. Greenberg?). This is an erroneous date: Amazon is known to have dates from the pre-2010s set to the standard XXXX-01-01, when there's only the year known (or to make up or use erroneous date information). And if one thinks of it, the first of January is one of the most unlikely days of publishing (at least it was in 1976). (Amazon also sets a date of a given month to the first of that month, regardless if that is the actual day of publication: quite often this was found to be a Sunday, for example). <br />
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Just wanted to pass on this information. Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 09:09, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Divergent Series ==<br />
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Phil, you added missing excerpts to some of your verified publication. I added the series and set the juvenile flag as needed. These edits will not show on your ' My Changed Primary Verifications' report, but I wanted you to be aware of them. If you have questions, ask. I only noticed them because I was looking at Veronica Roth for something else. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:17, 3 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Khyber Connection ==<br />
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Phil, I'm holding this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5302102 submission]. You are adding the count of unnumbered pages, but you are not adding any content? From the help, 'There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded.' [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 22:05, 30 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for catching that. I do know better than to do that. I have cancelled the submission and resubmitted the edit without changing the page count. BTW, I couldn't follow the submission link you provided above. I get this error when I click on it: "Moderator privileges are required for this option". [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:29, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Aprroved, sorry about the link. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:22, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Siege & The Rescue ==<br />
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Phil, I mistakenly changed the publication dates to unknown for these 4th printings. I reinstated the year for each per your publication notes. The Siege needed to be changed anyway, you kept the date when cloning the first printing. Sorry to cause the alerts. Guess that means it's time to go to bed. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 22:33, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== That Hideous Strength ==<br />
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Hi Phil. I think you forgot to adjust the date[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900677] to 1966.23:12, 27 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sure did. Corrected and submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:29, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Twice Upon a Time ==<br />
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Phil, this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5328152 edit] incorrectly changed the page count. Please review the second bullet point under [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Pages Pages] in the help section and submit an edit to restore the correct count. Thanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:56, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for catching this. Restoration change submitted. I missed seeing the single page with a Roman numeral on it when I did the editing. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:13, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No worries, the correction is approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:16, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Boundary Shock Quarterly ==<br />
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Phil, since you are a PV for a couple issues of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/seriesgrid.cgi?50811 Boundary Shock Quarterly] I wanted to let you know I am doing a little 'housekeeping' on the series. I'm primarily moving the issue number and theme from the title to the notes. I highlight all changes in the note to moderator to make it easier to follow. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:08, 14 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:12, 14 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Foreward vs Foreword ==<br />
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Can you please double check the non-standard spelling of foreword in the following records?<br />
* {{T|2953362|Author's Foreward: A Regency That Never Was}} in {{P|46952|The Shadow of Albion}}<br />
* {{T|2953364|Author's' Foreward: An Empire That Never Was}} in {{P|304826|Leopard in Exile}}<br />
* {{T|2953647|Foreward (The Sword Is Drawn)}} in {{P|363647|The Sword Is Drawn}}<br />
* {{T|2959964|Foreward to the Revised Edition}} in {{P|21173|Magician: The Author's Preferred Edition}}<br />
If these are database typos, please correct. If the publication used this spelling, please add a title note stating the spelling is per the publication. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:17, 9 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:All my typos. Edits submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:55, 9 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Faerie Tale ==<br />
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Phil, this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5385579 submission] is trying to link to the image you asked to have deleted. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:04, 12 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Drat! I must have confused which upload was bad. I have re-uploaded this cover. I'll see if I can locate which cover upload was actually bad. Sorry for the extra work. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:16, 12 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No worries, approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:10, 13 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Call to Quarters ==<br />
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Please double check the ISBN [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911088 here]. I think it is for the tp, not the ebookThanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:02, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:You're right. Edit submitted. A question that just occurred to me: Should I be creating the records for the other publications of the same title if they are listed on Amazon even though I don't/won't have them? I've been desperately trying to get though verifying/updating as much of my collection in the ISFDB as I can before it has to be packed away for my impending move and may have missed doing an expected thing. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:23, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Approved. Absolutely, add records for any of the missing publications. Since you will not be providing a PV, additional notes are often necessary. For example. "Contents from Look inside" (or another source), when adding content titles to an unverified publication. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:46, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Changed Primary Verifications ==<br />
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I've had a number of Changed Primary Verifications, 82 just this year, and most of them are just External ID, so that was fine. The latest one, Chess With A Dragon, I saw it was ContentTitle, External ID, and Note, and decided to see what the changes were. When I look at the Edit History, it looks like nothing was changed, even though those three field were highlighted. Can you tell me why that is, please? Thanks. [[User:AndonSage|AndonSage]] 14:06, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
: A quick note to assist here: it is a quirk of the system: the "History" was never designed to be a history - it is a side effect of how we do submissions. But as it can be useful in some cases, it had been linked and added to assist. As a result, once approved, you see which fields are changed but you cannot see the old value(s) - the new value is now showing where the old value used to be. This is why some moderators ask people to write better and more complete moderator notes and not just list the list of fields they are changing (so PVs can figure out what happened - the system has the list of fields, what it does not have are the details). You can also look at older edits on the same record - if the same field was changed earlier in one of them, then you can see the old value there (as a "new value"). Hope that helps. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:36, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I can't add to what Annie stated. For "Chess with a Dragon" for example, I only added the WorldCat ID. Over the last months and several hundred edits, I've been adding more explicit info to the moderator notes to try to give a better look into the change history. See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5394882 this submission] as an example (though it's not one for something where you are a PV). [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:34, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Thanks for the response :) [[User:AndonSage|AndonSage]] 13:12, 20 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Call to Quarters ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911256 Call to Quarters], you don't need this statement "Amazon shows the publisher as CreateSpace" (a self-publisher). You show the publisher as it is on the title page, and you state where it came from. That's sufficient. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:54, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Submitted edit to remove it. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:33, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: Approved. thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:36, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Squadron Alert ==<br />
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I approved [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5396875 this submission], but have a question. I see a note about Roman Numerals (not yours), but I don't see any Roman Numerals in the Pages field. What's up? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:05, 22 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I probably should have asked myself. The absolute count of pages is 316. Pages 1-4 are unnumbered. There are Roman numerals printed on pages v-vii. The next printed page number is 11 and the last printed page number is 316. There is a map on unnumbered page 9/ix. Does that mean the page count should be ix+305 then? The LCCN and WorldCat records are no help since they both show a count of 316. BTW, the same situation exits here in this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?32925 record] and here in this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45039 record]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:36, 22 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: The Pages field should be vii+316 (Highest <b>printed</b> Roman numeral plus the last page of the book). We always include the Roman numerals, even if there are no indexed titles. The page numbers of the content titles are correct. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:15, 22 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Edits submitted for all three Roland Green pubs that have this problem. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:32, 23 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::: Approved, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:54, 23 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Swordspoint ==<br />
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Careful when moving LCCNs around. Take for example [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5417250 this one]. It is a valid LCCN (and that is why we used a template for it) but it belongs to the Arbor House edition, not to the Tor one. So we do not add it to the Tor edition as an external ID. Feel free to edit again and note that it is on the copyright page but belongs to a different edition. Verifying it with lookup is not just about looking if it connects, we also need to make sure the edition and the rest of the details match. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:09, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Wow! I blew that one. I usually do check but obviously missed in this case. Corrected update submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:52, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: That's part of why we have the two sets of eyes system. I approved quite a lot of updates from you after this one which were ok so I think you were just distracted or something :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 21:57, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lammas Night ==<br />
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Phil, I approved your three edits to this publication and its associated title records. When there is only one publication, you can edit the title record, the coverart title record and the publication with one submission. Every little bit that helps keep the size of the submission queue down is appreciated. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 19:22, 17 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== 979 ISBNs ==<br />
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When you see an ISBN starting with 979 and you use Amazon as a source, always add the ASIN as well. All links to Amazon on the site use ISBN10 (they actually use ASINs because this is how Amazon had always prefered it but for 978-starting ISBNs of paper books, the ASIN is ISBN10). So for 979 ones, the links won't work. So we add ASINs - as we do with any ebook or audible book. If you are adding a lot of new US books, the scenario will become more and more likely to happen - the agency selling ISBNs to small presses and independent authors in USA ran out of 978 ISBNs some time last year so unless someone already had the ISBN, all new ones will be coming as 979s. I fixed it [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?916843 here]. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:45, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks. Should I always add the ASIN for paper books where the source is Amazon even if they have a 978 prefix? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:10, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No. Only when the ASIN starts with a B - if it is numerical, it is ISBN10 and we do not use the field for that. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:29, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Audible books ==<br />
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When adding an Audible book, we want the list price, not the price Amazon would sell it to you for. In Amazon.com it is hiding under "Buy with 1-click" (if you have that enabled) or somewhere in the general vicinity of the top right corner of the book description usually (or under the cover on mobile) - when you select that radio box, under it there is a "List Price: $24.95" for example. You can also check the list price on Audible.com (it is called "Regular price" there). I fixed it [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?916845 here] and added the Audible ASIN while I was at it. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:51, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
PS: And we have a Narrator template. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:05, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:OK. Will do. Since I have an Audible account, the 1-click price is never the list price for me. I've been trying to get the list price by using a different browser that is not signed-in to Amazon but at least in this case I must have forgotten to search for the title instead of copying the URL from the signed-in account. It looks like I should always just to go to the Audible site to get both the price and the Audible-ASIN. I didn't know about the Narrator template but I'll switch to using it. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:22, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: I did not say to use the 1-click price itself. I said (probably not very clearly) to click on its radio box and look UNDER it - on the next like in Amazon :) I have an Audible account as well - the List price is always hiding under the 1-click one. Hope that helps. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:28, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== A King of Masks and Magic ==<br />
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Phil, I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5442136 this submission] as it would duplicate an existing pub. You just need to import the cover art title. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:31, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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I approved your clone submission creating the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?918415 Audio CD] version. You can pick up the length and narrator from the digital audio download above. Tantor would not create a different recording for each format. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:40, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Oops! Thanks for catching it. I submitted the import of the cover art [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5447745 here] and cancelled the held submission. <br />
:For the CDs, I assume that I should note that the length and narrator are from the digital audio edition? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:13, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Up to you, but I don't think it's necessary. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:06, 9 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Rules of Redemption ==<br />
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Occasionally the Audible ASIN is an ISBN 10 like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?918427 this one]. You enter it in the ISBN field, converting to ISBN 13 when neccessary. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 15:17, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I wasn't aware that the Audible IDs that don't start with B are ISBNs but they didn't look like Audible-ASINs which is why I didn't include them as Audible-ASINs. I'll take that into account in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:15, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: Just a small clarifying note - unlike paper books ASINs, we always record the Audible ASIN in the Audible ASIN field as well so the link to Audible.com can be created (unlike the Amazon links, we don’t have the Audibles on the left menu). So for Audible ASINs which are numeric, they get recorded in their own field and also converters to ISBN13 to go into the isbn field as John explained above. Hope this makes sense. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 00:26, 9 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dating excerpts ==<br />
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Hi, I have three submissions of yours on hold [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495384], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495385], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495388], as I noticed that you dated excerpts to the date when the source novel was first published (do I have that correctly understood?) However, that is not correct. The excerpt must be dated to the date of first appearance of the excerpt itself, not of the parent novel. You may want to double-check other edits you've made in the same vein that may have been inadvertently approved, and/or you may want to start a discussion . Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 11:15, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:I used those dates for the excerpts because the copyright statements for them on the copyright page had those dates in them. I didn't even look at the first pub dates for their related full works. The ones you put on hold are title removes for the ones that don't apply to the specific publications. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:31, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Just chiming in to add the help page which governs these dates: [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:TitleFields:Date here]: "Excerpts. Use the date when an excerpt was first published in that form, not the date when the original text it is taken from was published.". The copyright date is never used to date a text in our DB - we look at the publications they appear in, not at whatever dates the copyright shows. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:35, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::This is the first time I ever remember seeing a copyright date specifically stated for an excerpt but I'll make sure to be wary in the future. The problem for these three cases is that the existing excerpts are only dated as unknown so I'm not sure which ones to keep. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:12, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::: Keep the earliest date matching a publication date where the excerpt is in or leave it as 0000-00-00 if all the publications it is in are later printings with no dates. If it is later found in a dated book, someone will adjust it based on that. I also like adding the first and last sentence of an excerpt (and any other known information - "Chapter one" or whatever else is visible) to its notes to facilitate the recognition of repeated excerpts. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2990061 this one] or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2990062 this one] for an example (always easier to show than to explain) :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:22, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::::This submission is still correct since it is just a removal [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495388]. Please approve it as is. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:23, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::::: MagicUnk is in Europe and probably off for the day already and noone can touch things he has on hold I am afraid -- I can assist with the help pages and advice but I cannot touch the submission. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:14, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::::::: I've approved held submissions so you can go in and adjust the excerpt dates. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 08:21, 9 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== A New Clan ==<br />
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Phil, I'm required to cancel [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5499425 this submission] since the publication date is more than 90 days out. Ping me when we are inside 90 days and I will unreject and approve the submission. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:33, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:OK. I saw the warning but wasn't sure what to do. In the future, I'll watch the date more closely. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:27, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Just as a data point: I rarely add anything more than 60-70 days out - even though 90 days are permitted and it will be approved, things tend to change a bit more that far out (and sometimes sources just do not update on time if there are delays and changes). The publishers had somewhat stabilized since the madness of the start of the pandemic and the schedules are a lot more stable but they still wobble more than they used to pre-2020 and updates are a bit slower when there are date changes so books added 3 months out often need an update as the dates get closer (the reason I have somewhat of a visibility on that is because I had been adding a big chunk of our pre-release editions in the last few years). It also depends on the publisher: Baen had been mostly stable lately but even they get some wobbles (interestingly enough, their wobbles tend to be towards releasing earlier, not later). If you insist on adding closer to the 90 days mark, verify the date on the publisher site, not just on Amazon - some of the Amazon records are added during the planning of the year and never updated until they are closer to the date - within 2-2.5 months for example. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:53, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Fifth Season & The Obelisk Gate ==<br />
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Please review the following two submissions, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5506396 The Fifth Season] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5506400 The Obelisk Gate]. The modified titles were removed by submissions processed on 2022-12-09, one day after these were submitted. I'll hold the submissions pending your review. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:03, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Looks like I created my own problem. I've cancelled these updates. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:55, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Inherit the Stars ==<br />
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Please check the price [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?925726 here]. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:30, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Oops! Correction submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:06, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:42, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== T. Carlin ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/editpub.cgi?900950; Cover artist and interior artist have different first names; intentional or mistake? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:My mistake - wrong cover artist. I submitted an update that corrected the cover artist to be Damoro Design along with enhancing the cover art note. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:25, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Silent Warrior ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?47237 this] is not Chris Achilleos. It's Alan M. Clarke. See [https://ifdpublishing.com/product/trilobite-returns-to-helvoran-large-print/ here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 06:20, 17 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:OK. Go ahead and make the changes to correct it. I just PV'ed it but didn't add the note or artist. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:28, 17 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::● I have added the correct credit to the artist, the web page that the artwork can be found on, and on the artworks’ page, the title of the work. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 15:22, 17 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Anne Renwick ==<br />
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Re: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?324810 Anne Renwick]. Would you mind checking all the excerpts to see which can be merged? I'm asking you since you own all the necessary publications. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:46, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Will do. Some of them will resolve when I remove them from the audiobook and audio CD editions so it may take a few days. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:11, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:52, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Icebreaker (Patreon edition) ==<br />
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Consider creating a publication record rather than adding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5514244 this information] to the title record. I'm not insisting nor am I holding the submission. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:41, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:I'm willing to but I'm following the guidance given to me [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions/Archive/Archive19#Early_releases_from_Baen_and_Patreon here] back in 2021. In fact, I'd like to do it because I also have saved the associated covers so they could be uploaded later and this would let me upload those as well. As far as I know, at this point it's only 30 Glynn Stewart titles that would be impacted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 18:21, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: How different are the covers and the books from the mass market edition? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:37, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::: I approved your submission. Thanks for the heads-up, I didn't notice that discussion last year. Not treating them as separate publications doesn't make sense to me, but I'll bow to the conventional wisdom. Hold on to your covers, maybe this will come up again. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:42, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::The covers are the same as the ebook covers but have PATREON EDITION prominently printed on them. The title pages also have PATREON EDITION printed on them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 20:40, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::: Let's wait out the holidays and we probably should start the discussion again. The Patreon editions are not eArcs and that conversation went in that direction very quickly. I am not sure the difference was even noticed later on... On one hand, we don't enter every single "version" of an ebook unless there is a difference enough (or we will have hundreds of versions per ebook record because some authors upload new files constantly). Pn the other, determining what difference matters is tricky - a new cover or a new excerpt always qualify (as we record data for those); Patreon - I am not sure. So we probably should try to have this discussion again and see if it can stay on topic. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:10, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::::Now that we're well past the holidays, how do we restart the discussion? Glynn Stewart just published another Patreon Edition for a new title. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 10:22, 27 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Ian Douglas variants ==<br />
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What were you trying to do with those? The canonical name for that author is William H. Keith, Jr. so the variants under the Ian Douglas name can only exist if there is a book containing them. If I approved them, they could be deleted overnight when the report finds them. So instead of varianting first, add the book which contains them and then variant them up to the correct canonical title. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:55, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:This is messy. Titles are the same but the author is Ian Douglas instead of William H. Keith. The ebook title pages show "Originally published under the name William H. Keith". Note no "Jr." I expect that should be a note, correct? Do I still create new and variant to the title by "William H. Keith, Jr."? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:35, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Yes. The best way to handle that cause is to add the books with the name Ian Douglas and then variant post-approval. The lack if the Jr. in the "originally published" statement is kinda irrelevant unless you can track a book with the name without the Jr. - in which case there will be yet another variant. The parent title will always be using William H. Keith, Jr. even if he never published the story under that name because this is the canonical name. <br />
: I can unreject and approve the variants if you want and if you plan to add the books today - but if they are still around overnight, they may get deleted (if someone works the orphaned titles report). Let me know how you want to proceed. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:49, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== GraphicAudio audio books ==<br />
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Just a quick note - these are usually dramatizations and not readings. Which makes them ineligible under the current rules - they do read most of the narration but they do edit the dialogs. We won't record a performance of Hamlet either - straight readings are eligible, dramatizations are out. So when you see this publisher, check on their site what exactly they did produce this time around). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:48, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:I see. Will watch out for this in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:37, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Missing prices ==<br />
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Missing information for audio CD's and audio MP3 CD's published by [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?59896 Audible Studios on Brilliance Audio] can be found [https://www.brilliancepublishing.com/ here]. I added the missing prices for all the ones I reviewed yesterday. Looks like there are more in the queue. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:08, 23 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Nice source! Thanks! I'll fix the other submissions once they are approved. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 10:37, 24 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: All approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:11, 24 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Lost Dreams ==<br />
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Phil, I approved [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5541717 this submission] before I realized it created a duplicate publication. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930380 Here] is the existing publication. I have deleted your publication. Just add your notes and primary verification to the existing publication. Notice [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_Talk:Anniemod Annie] set it up as a serial installment of the novel [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3129077 Last Stand]. Let me know if you this isn't clear. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:30, 15 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Bitten ==<br />
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Phil, Regarding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?33238 Bitten]. What's up with some of these audiobooks? Two sets of audio cassettes on the same day (2001-10-01)? Two sets of audio CDs on the same day (2010-07-27)? Seems odd, did you do any further digging? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 20:46, 19 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:In the case of the cassettes, one is a regular edition and the other is a Library edition. I'll add that to the notes of the Library edition. As to the audio CDs, they have different ISBNs and there are separate WorldCat entries for them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:25, 19 January 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:06, 20 January 2023 (EST)<br />
::: Pretty standard with US audiobooks due to how licensing works (or something along these line...) :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:13, 20 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== All the Weyrs of Pern ==<br />
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How much confidence do you have in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933698 this price]? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 13:56, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Pretty strong given that it's a library edition. It's not outside the value range several other library audio CD editions have. Of course I could be wrong... [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:23, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks, I don't know why it jumped out at me. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:00, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall ==<br />
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I removed Jan 1 from the date for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933718 The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall] and several other pubs. On pubs which predate Amazon, the date is unreliable. There's no telling where they get them from, Jan 1st is their default month and day. For your clones, I used WorldCat to confirm the year. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:50, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Good to know. I'll check WorldCat for those who predate 1998 in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:28, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Wizard of Karres ==<br />
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[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5573314 This submission] appears to create a duplicate. What am I missing? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:35, 5 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:My bad. It looks like I accidently submitted it twice. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 19:05, 5 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::It also looks like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933872 this record] is a duplicate pub and should be deleted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:59, 5 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::: I agree, go ahead. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:02, 6 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Rides a Dread Legion ==<br />
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I made minor changes to contents of Rides a Dread Legion https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274016 if you have no objection. <br />
Page number for first page of novel<br />
Added entry for map on bep<br />
Note re Acknowledgments on unnumbered roman numeral page.<br />
Thanks. <br />
[[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:53, 10 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Sounds fine. Go ahead. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Charles de Lint / Moonheart: A Romance ==<br />
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Posted on the Talk pages of active PVs GlennMcG, Philfreund.<br />
<br>I'm looking at my copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22754 Moonheart: A Romance] and the pub record. This doesn't seem to be set up correctly. It should be unmerged, assigned to a title record of "Moonheart: A Romance" and this should be varianted to "Moonheart". Actually, there is a case for making "Moonheart: A Romance" the canonical title as it's the first publication. However, as there is only 1 pub titled "Moonheart: A Romance" and 16 pubs titled "Moonheart", I don't feel strongly about which is the canonical title. Mind you, I would bet that some of the other pubs also have "A Romance" on the title page, particularly the Ace pb reprints. What are your thoughts? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:49, 13 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are probably right that this should be the canonical title and the others unmerged into a variant. I've noticed a few other titles that seem to have the same situation. I also agree that the other Ace printings are likely listed incorrectly without "A Romance". It might be interesting to ask the PV of the 1985 second printing to recheck his copy. I just took a quick look at the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431784 2013 Smashwords edition] and it has "A Romance" on the title page so the PV there missed it. The audiobook and the CDs definitely do not have "A Romance" associated with them. I'd be fine with you doing the unmerge/variant if you would like to. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:27, 13 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::I will ask AliHarlow about the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444733 Ace pb 2nd print]. I also have the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22753 UK Pan tp] which I have recently PVd and that does not have "A Romance" on the title page. Like you, I have also come across other titles that have this problem. Based on your and [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:GlennMcG#Charles_de_Lint_.2F_Moonheart:_A_Romance GlennMcG's] replies, I will do the varianting but first I will stick a post on the Moderator Noticeboard to ask which should be the canonical title as it's rather subjective. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:42, 14 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Diamond Conspiracy ==<br />
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Phil, please find the ASIN for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5584033 this one]. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:43, 17 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Sorry. That one slipped past me. Cancelled and resubmitted with the ASIN [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5585376 here]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:32, 17 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Ware Hawk ==<br />
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Regarding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?225901 this]. Publisher is "An Argo Book / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum.Books" as it states "A Margaret K. McElderry Book" on title page and front flap of dustwrapper and "An Argo Book" on copyright page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:20, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Hmmm. There are only 4 pubs using the publisher "An Argo Book / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum.Books". I'm guessing that it should be publisher "An Argo Book / Atheneum" with the Publication Series being "A Margaret K. McElderry Book". What does Chavey say since he is the original PV? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 18:26, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::His books are in storage so I did not message him. I checked the details from the copy I recently acquired. My copy has "A Margaret K. McElderry Book" on title page and front flap of dustwrapper as well as on copyright page underneath this is "An Argo Book" (Argo logo on spine) - hence why I wanted to check if your copy had the same informaton. "An Argo Book / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum Books" is one of the publishers listed under "Atheneum"- I'll open a discussion on the Moderator page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:41, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::My copy matches yours but also has the Argo logo block on the title page. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:40, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Publisher check: Keeper of Enchanted Rooms ==<br />
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Do you still have access to your verified [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?914121 Keeper of Enchanted Rooms]? The copy I have shows 47North as the publisher - which is a bit more logical than Brilliance Audio (they did all the audio versions). Any objections to me fixing the publisher? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 22:44, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Please change it to 47North. I entered it wrong. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 06:35, 25 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:: Done. I’ll be verifying it when I get to that book. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:37, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Peace Talks ==<br />
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I have put [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5591905 your submission] on hold as I notice the record you've added has the same ISBN and same Audible-ASIN as [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?891064 this one] (apart from the publisher and price, that is). Do you know what's going here? Shouldn't these be the same publication? [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 03:40, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Looks like this was a simultaneous release in the US and UK. Since the hardcover was the US release, I think the US was the primary release site so I should change the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?891064 exisiting record] values to the values in the submission for the cover, publisher, and price as well as adding notes for the UK price and publisher. I'll cancel the submission after I submit that edit. Does that seem right? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:02, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::To be honest, I'm at a loss as to what's going on here. I can find references to both versions on Amazon.com, Audible.com (with two different prices...) and Goodreads only. Audible.co.uk has the Hachette Audio UK version. Maybe ask some other moderators who are more familiar with audiobooks for advice? [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 06:58, 28 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::Figured it out. See discussion [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Peace_Talks_audiobook_conundrum here]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:23, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::::What a mess ... :-) Thanks for digging into this. Now approved. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 04:46, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Roman Holiday ==<br />
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Hello Phil, <br />
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A little trick with Audible books like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?938186 this one]. A list price of $2.17 tells you that this is not priced for the US market but is a conversion (and this exact value is a £1.99 conversion for an Audible). So head to Amazon.co.uk and find the same audiobook (search by title and author - unlike ebooks, it will have a separate ASIN so we need to record both but it will give you a list price). In this case, as Jodi Taylor's books are published first in UK, that also makes sense. I updated this one. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:41, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Got it. I know to do that with regular books/ebooks and should have realized it applied to the audiobooks as well. The list prices for audiobooks are so scattered and seemingly random that it just didn't catch my eye. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:45, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:: You get used to them - there are a few publishers that use weird prices in Audible even when they are US editions (for some of them, hitting their publisher page may actually give you a real list price - sometimes I remember to do that, sometimes I just record the Amazon/Audible list price and as we have notes on the sources, they are technically correct). But $2.17 had stayed with me both from ebooks and from audiobooks as it is usually the £1.99 across the pond. So I go check and figured I should stop by and share. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 16:02, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Anomalous cover for ebooks ==<br />
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Looking at these two titles, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2751327] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2829761]), you'll notice that the publication date of the ebooks you've recently added are identical to the tp edition, yet the cover of said recently added ebooks is completely different (corresponds, in fact, with a recent re-issue). Look at the Goodreads editions for a more accurate edition history. For example, you'll notice that the [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55949187-raven-s-course 2020 Kindle edition] of {{t|2829761|Raven's Course}} has a different cover compared to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5597718 your addition]. In fact, there's [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62321459-raven-s-course a second, 2022 Goodreads record] with the blue cover, with a publication date of 2022-01-00. The better course of action if you come across such an 'Amazon anomaly' (Amazon tends to update the cover art with a re-issue, but keeps the first publication date), is to check Goodreads, and go with that. In other words, better to update the cover of your two ebook additions with the Goodreads one. Thanks, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 15:44, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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Same for {{t|526757|The Last Wish}}; comparing the 2015 audio editions you entered, looks suspiciously like cover was updated with the [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60617128-the-last-wish 2022 re-issue]. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 15:56, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Submissions for all three covers are submitted (plus the Goodreads ID was added). I didn't realize that Goodreads also kept the info for the audio editions. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:21, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Japanese Crisis Title ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5612864; While adding Archive.org links to both editions of Crisis I noticed this Japanese title was missing the mark over the letter so I cut-and-pasted the 1 instance of the correct title on ISFDB from some completely unrelated work. There are other questions like whether cover artist from original should be imported to reprint as a co-artist because most of the art is the same, which page count is correct since the last page, "afterword", has no page number, how date of reprint was derived since no 2004 date is on the copyright page (maybe the last page with "Coming August 2004") and whether a note should be entered saying where date came from, whether all stories are original and should have the month (02) added to them, etc. Maybe someone will look into these things if they want to. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:59, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks but I can't even look into this until my paperbacks are out of storage which will be at least another 6 months. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:09, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yeah, I know, you and a whole lot of other people who say the same thing on here. Maybe someone who owns a copy or is in some way familiar with these books will read this and be able to help fix stuff or add new stuff. The unnumbered last page is minor because there's thousands on here where they were either added to the page count with no note, added with a note saying they're unnumbered (I've done very many of those), added to page count in brackets, not added at all, etc., just however the individual editor felt like doing it. Date of reprint edition is minor because there's thousands of books where an editor added a date not in the book without saying in any way where they got it from. Months added to stories is minor because there's thousands of stories which never got the book's month added to them. The only thing that I can see being of interest is that cover art, because while different artists are on the copyright page in each edition the reprint cover art uses the same art from the original with some new bits underneath, so the original artist should definitely be a co-artist in the reprint. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:31, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The River's Gift ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5609709 this submission]. A novel, really? I suggest doing a little research and fixing the existing title first. Then create the ebook. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:37, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Wow. Did I blow this or what? So do I just change the existing title into a Shortfiction novella, then create a new empty Chapbook with no pub detail, then import the novella into the Chapbook? Any other steps before creating the ebook? I'll also cancel and redo [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5609712 this submission] as part of the fix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:34, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: Edit the current book we have, change the pub type to chapbook, the novel title to a short fiction and add a chapbook. That’s all that is needed when there is a single publication with the title. Then you can clone from the result post approval. <br />
:: If there were more publications, you change the novel to a story. Once approved, edit every publication to change its pub type and to add a chapbook. Then you merge the resulting chapbooks (you cannot import a chapbook while the pub type is a novel and you won’t be able to make these chapbooks until the novel is out and cannot save a chapbook pub without a chapbook title - thus the need for a merge in these cases). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 02:12, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Submitted [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615539 this]. Hope it is correct. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:12, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::: Approved. Now you can clone the corrected publication to create the ebook. Don't forget to cancel the original [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5609709 submission]. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:03, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::Original cancelled. New clone submission [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615577 here] [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:18, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::: I obtained a copy of the hc to verify the length. My count is approximately 19,600, primarily because there are no illustrations or chapter divisions. Thought you might be interested. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:41, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== More Than Honor audio MP3 CD ==<br />
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Looks like Amazon has the wrong date for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5617504 this one]. Brilliance publishing says the date is 5-21-2013 for 978-1-4915-7626-7 MP3-CD. I'm guessing you saw this as you have the correct $9.99 price which is not what Amazon shows. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 15:37, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Your submission is absolutely correct. I'm not sure what I was looking at. It's approved now. Sorry. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:06, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Thieves' World Collection Volume Two ==<br />
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In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5648430 this submission], you stated you were removing the essays but didn't stay ''why''. You aren't a PV of the ebook, so how do you know the essays aren't in it? Please clarify this. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:34, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I used the Amazon Look Inside feature and the essays aren't there. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:54, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Okay, thanks! Please include information like that in your future moderator notes. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:48, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Murder of Crows ==<br />
In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5648434 this submission], you stated you were removing the essay but didn't stay ''why''. You aren't a PV of the audiobook, so how do you know the essay isn't in it? Please clarify this. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:39, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:True, but how likely is it that an audiobook includes a Glossary? The Glossary essay only showed up because I cloned. If I had simply done a new pub, I wouldn't have known to include it so there wouldn't be a question. If it's actually there, a PV can add it. If you want to reject this submission, I understand. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:10, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I've had audiobooks that included them, so that's why I asked. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:47, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: One little trick I use - when you clone like that, set the page numbers of the materials you will be removing to "del" or "remove" or "--" or something like that in the clone -- you cannot remove them on the clone directly but you can set page numbers. That way it will be clear that they are supposed to be out once approved (a moderator may decide to help you and remove them on approval or just let you do the follow up but it reduces the confusion usually). Plus even if you forget to follow up, someone may find them and clear them up. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:32, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Gaiman and Doran's Chivalry ==<br />
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Hi, I recently added this year's Locus Award finalists, of which [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3169089 this title was one], which you've PVed, and it it looks like you added other pubs for as well.<br />
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I had [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus an exchange with Ahasuerus yesterday] about how the site renders the award for art titles, and he mentioned that he didn't think this graphic novel was correctly entered. I'm not familiar with the intricacies of that type of title/pub, and I definitely don't want to go messing around with someone else's PV, so I'll have to refer you to his comments. Thanks. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 08:15, 14 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:On reflection, I think I should have had both Gaiman and Doran as the authors. I've added a note to your discussion with Ahasuerus to make sure I know how to make the change correctly. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:42, 14 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== New Frontiers: A Collection of Tales About the Past, the Present, and the Future ==<br />
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Hi Phil, It would have been worth the effort to add pipes to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468985 this publication], correcting the sort order before cloning it four times. Now you need to edit all five publication records. Also, run the duplicate checker, on any one of the pubs, and merge or disambiguate as necessary. P.S. I know you didn't create the duplicates, just want you do get used to checking those things since I will be supporting your application for self-approver. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:50, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Well drat! I'll do that but I'm going to wait a bit to see if my self-approver request goes through. I already have a lot of submissions in the queue so no point in making it longer if I can hold off a bit to get better throughput. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 18:27, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Realized that waiting was a bad idea. Submitted 5 resequencings and 4 merges. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:17, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Glynn Stewart excerpts ==<br />
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For your to do list. Remember to add descriptions in the post merge title records. This will help us determine if future appearances should be merged or disambiguated. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:59, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep. I have to compare the instances of each of the titles to see if they are unique. I'm suspecting there's a lot of duplication. I assume I should also move them under the appropriate series as well. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:52, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: Yes, add the appropriate series. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:41, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Knighthood of the Dragon ==<br />
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What is the source of the price [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953365 here]? I see $6.99 in Amazon. If it comes from elsewhere (Kobo USA (great source for ISBNs for ebooks and audiobooks - just make sure it is not a publisher which uses different ISBNs for kindle vs ePub books), the publisher site or something else), we need a note on the source. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:07, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:My bad. It looks like I forgot to change the price from the clone source. Fix submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:49, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Free to Good Home ==<br />
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A small trick: when you clone line [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5676896 here] and the book you are cloning from is a singleton (so each story is in only one book), you can do EditPub before the clone, change all dates in the single EditPub (including the cover if needed). Then you do not need to update each title one by one. As a rule, before cloning, check the book(s) we have, clean them up (order, pages, dates and so on, adding a moderator note on why you are changing the date if you are changing dates on titles) and then clone. Otherwise you need to do a lot more work later :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:15, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Nice technique. I'll gladly use it. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:54, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Co-authors ==<br />
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Careful when adding books with more than one author - you missed Don Goodman [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953384 here] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953383 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:33, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I'll be sure to watch that when I create chapbooks that go with an existing shortfiction title. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:51, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Import vs. Merge ==<br />
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When you are working on chapbooks, it may be better off to add the story and then merge than leave the import for later. It is still a single operation but in the meantime, the chapbook is incomplete. That's different from collections and anthologies who stand on their own but chapbooks exist for their short fiction/poem. You don't really win much by not adding and then merging (if anything, if you are adding multiple chapbooks formats, a single merge will get the stories back together as opposed to import per book). Either way works but not adding the story may end up with forgetting to add it later - and someone will need to clean after that. My policy in such things is to use the way that leaves the DB records as unproblematic as possible in between steps. Then even if I am pulled away in the middle of an edit, it may be wrong but it won't be very wrong. ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:40, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Added bonus: you don't need to faffle with the dates because the merge will take care of that. So in cases where you are adding earlied chapbooks, it is actually more efficient to add the story during the book adding and then merge than to re-date and then import ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:42, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::So far I've been pretty careful to go back but I can see how easy it would be to miss one. I'll do it that way from now on. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:59, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::: We all are - but things happen. Plus that way you do not end up with someone undoing the date change if you are late in adding the story. If New/Import is easier for you than New/Merge, that still works -- I was just sharing some personal advice on what seems to behave a bit better for me.:) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:04, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Outcast ==<br />
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Two things about [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953425 this one]:<br />
* If you are using a UK price, you need a UK source. Amazon UK is not a mirror of Amazon.com, they can be very very different. So if you use the price from Amazon UK, you add Amazon UK as a source and not Amazon.com (or both if that makes sense like here)<br />
* Always use | numbers to order the titles in a e-book when there are introductions, post-novel essays and excerpts. I know that on NewPub you cannot add a page to the novel itself so this is always a second step so this is more of a heads up :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:55, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Dafydd ab Hugh books ==<br />
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I added ISBNs to the ebooks you added. Kobo ( https://www.kobo.com/us/en ) is a good source for ISBNs for US books; https://www.kobo.com/gb/en for UK books (I usually refer to them as Kobo USA and Kobo UK respectively in notes). Both of them also carry audiobooks and sometimes can give you ISBNs for ones that Audible uses a B-ASIN for. Outside of a few children's publishers and very few others, publishers use eISBN for all their ebook formats (a thing that does not exist in theory but is there in practice). When Amazon still carried and showed ISBNs for ebooks, the two usually carried the same ISBN on the same book . Kobo can even give you a hint for a list price sometimes when Amazon is being obstinate. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:18, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wiz of Tiz ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?55128; January 1990, not January 1989, according to Archive.org copy's copyright page. EDIT: The title and cover art title are also wrong, there's no "The", and I may be wrong but that excerpt page number doesn't look right. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:38, 2 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I'll put it on my list of items to check when I can get to my copy of the book. Currently, all my paperbacks are in boxes from my interstate move and won't be unpacked until my new bookshelves are built. The rough ETA for that is the end of July. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:04, 2 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Self-approver status ==<br />
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You are now a self-approver. Congratulations! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 10:02, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Welcome to the dark side. Uhm, I mean... :) Don't hesitate to reach out and ask if you need any help -- and have fun. (Cue checking the same edit 10 times now that you realize the second set of eyes is gone). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 12:32, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks. I'm sure I will be reaching out... and checking even more. Now to clear my own backlog... :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 12:36, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Zelazny - Blood of Amber ==<br />
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Hello Phil, adding Reg3 ID# to your PV'd {{P|4938|pub here}}. As I'm adding a lot of Reg3 ID#s, could you let me know if you still want to be notified every time I make those simple edits? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:45, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for asking but I don't need the notices. Frankly, I only notify people for substantive changes. For External IDs, covers, and spelling corrections, I assume people are watching their "My Verifications > My Recently Changed Primary Verifications" when they show a New status. That's what I do. YMMV :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:59, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales of the Witch World 3 ==<br />
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For {{P|34398|Tales of the Witch World 3}}: Would you please check the author credits for page 216 & 231? Per the Internet Archive of the pb, the author is credited as Karen E. Rigley on the story TOC and the Afterword signature. Did the hc truly use Karen Rigley are is this a database typo? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:49, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It is indeed a typo that I missed seeing before I PVed. It is Karen E. Rigley in the ToC, on page 216, and page 231. I fixed the entries in record. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:17, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Alexandre R. ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=alexandre+ri&type=Name; Rio should probably be made a variant of Rito. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:55, 15 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks. I'm checking with the author. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:10, 15 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Confirmed and fixed. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:51, 16 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: Don't forget to make [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?364935 Alexandre Rio] an alternative name for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?271999 Alexandre Rito]. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:06, 16 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Done. I thought I had done that but apparently missed it. Thanks for catching this. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 09:11, 16 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Music of the Spheres & Other Classic Science Fiction Stories ==<br />
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Re [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5707644 this edit]: I'll be changing the dates back. These are all variant titles, because Stuart J. Byrne is a variant of S. J. Byrne. Current rules state that variant titles are dated on the first publication of the variant, not the parent title. Please discuss things like this before making changes. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:39, 1 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Sorry. I'll communicate better in the future. But in that case they should all be dated to the ebook of the same title published on 2006-02-08, right? [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?959293 ebook record]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:35, 1 July 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::You're right, 2006-02-08 it is now you've cloned the book for the e-book edition. I corrected the dates, and added to the notes of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2266563 collection title]. I could not find any proof a 1997 edition was ever published, so the copyright date belongs in the notefield. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:46, 2 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
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{{welcome}} [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:03, 25 October 2020 (EDT)<br />
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== Translation preferences updated ==<br />
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Just a quick FYI that the User Preferences page has been updated to let users suppress translations on Title page. Thanks for bringing this issue to the community's attention! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 18:26, 29 December 2020 (EST)<br />
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== Five Against Venus ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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I adjusted the value of the Pub series name in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?821589 your book] to match the way we have this series recorded in the DB and updated to note to explain the exact spelling on the dustjacket. I also merged the novel record with the earlier printings - in the future you may find it easier to either use "Add Publication to This Title" on the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?276561 title level] or "Clone This Pub" from one of the previous versions (and just change any fields that are different. That way we do not need to merge post approval. While it is not a big problem for novels, it can be for anthologies and collections where if you do New and add the stories manually, we will need to merge every single story :)<br />
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I did not merge the covers as it was unclear if it is the same as the previous ones. Once you provide the cover image, if it is, we can merge those records as well. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:18, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for the advice. I'm still trying to learn the best way to do things. I'm OK with the series number change. However, I didn't originally include it because the Wikipedia entry for the Winston Science Fiction series specifically states that the series was not numbered. This book was simply the third published chronologically. [[User:Philfreund|Phil Freund]] 12:40, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
:: I did not add a number, I just changed the name of the series (shortened it a bit) to match the record we have. See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?790 our note] explaining why and how we numbered the books in this series in the DB. Hope this makes sense. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:56, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== LCCN ==<br />
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External IDs should belong to the printing that they are added to. So I moved it from there into the notes [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273238 here] and added it as an External ID to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?111181 the first printing] as the LCCN record clearly says [https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchCode=LCCN&searchArg=52005494&searchType=1&permalink=y 1952]. Thanks for supplying the number! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:50, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks! I'm learning a lot from your helpful comments. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:09, 4 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Greenwitch ==<br />
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4905687 this submission]: What identifies it as a new printing vs. the {{P|368240|existing printing}}? There is nothing listed in the notes. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:46, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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The same question for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4905708 this submission] vs {{P|368242|The Grey King}}. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:47, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Both have a different cover price of $2.95 while the originals are $1.95. The price is on the covers which I will upload once these are approved unless you want me to upload them now. I will need help figuring out how to name the upload images if that's the case. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:22, 6 February 2021 (EST)<br />
::Both approved. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:09, 7 February 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Suicide Run ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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When you see a note such as "Data from Amazon.com as of 2021-02-11." in the notes this tells you when the data was checked in Amazon. Unless you have a time machine and you are writing from 2018, changing this to "Data from Amazon.com as of 2018-04-01." is incorrect. You can change it in 2 ways:<br />
* If you are working off a copy of the book, remove the statement completely unless you are leaving some information from it (price for example in which case modify to "Data from Amazon.com as of 2021-02-11 (price)." or use the date you are submitting on if it is still the same.<br />
* If you are working based on an archived copy of the Amazon.com page taken on 2018-04-01 (your own copy or somewhere off internet),then leave it there and just add "Data verified with an archived copy of Amazon.com taken on 2018-04-01". Or something to that effect.<br />
The actual date of the book goes into the field for the date. I restored the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?823310 note here]. Feel free to re-edit based on your exact circumstances. Thanks and let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:38, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
: Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?607524 this one] and I suspect a few more :) Plus - we support 16 Amazons :) If you mean the US one, can you use Amazon.com (yes, I know... not everyone had been doing that) :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:40, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:: Sorry for the mess. I now understand! I have been pulling my book purchase info into my Readerware database for years. Part of that info is the purchase date and purchase price so I was just trying to get the dates more accurate. I also suspect that the odd prices I'm seeing in some of the publication records could be because the person from AU didn't note the price as A$ instead of just $. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:06, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
::: No worries. In this case use your date to add "Price from xxxx-xx-xx" or something like that if you want. <br />
::: No - they are really US ones but when you open Amazon.com from outside of USA, it adds taxes (and some other fees sometimes) and makes the prices funny. Or it shows the converted A$ price price (in US$ but not what a US person will see). Or used to - they keep changing things. Amazon can be... fun sometimes if you do not know how to decipher some of its shenanigans. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:23, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Ric Locke ==<br />
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The [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1899615 unneeded "k"] had been sent the way of the dodo. Thanks for finding it! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:43, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== A Light in the Dark ==<br />
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I fixed the date in the notes from 2012-08-05 back to its addition date [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?632078 here] but where is that 2012 date coming from at all? The single date difference in the other book is an AU/US thing (the editor that initially added these is based in AU/NZ so that happens like that sometimes...) but this one is way off. If this is the date in Amazon, this is a later ebook and it should be added separately and not mistaken with the 2011 one. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:47, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:I'm now confused about what date I entered. The copy I have in hand shows July 27, 2011 Revision on the copyright page. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:24, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:: Based on the other thread - did you buy it on 2012-08-05? :) Sounds like this was the date in your DB? Or you copied/pasted something from another book :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:30, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:::Mystery solved. That's exactly what I did. Bought it on 2012-08-05. Sigh....must have been distracted by the dogs barking at the Amazon delivery truck. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:41, 5 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== The Winter Long ==<br />
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Fixed the cover artist [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?521010 here] based on the note in the notes :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:34, 11 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Was Once a Hero ==<br />
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About [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4935335 this]: a book from 2011 cannot say "Second Publication Ad Astra 2013". We catalog SF, we do not live in a SF universe yet. Either the date of the ebook is wrong or your note is wrong. Based on the note, it seems like we had conflated the first edition (2011,Hellfire) with the second (2013,Ad Astra)... If you are sure, then if I were you, I would fix the date of this one, explain where the 2013 comes from and then create a clone of the book to put the known 2011 publisher and year in it... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:34, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Wow. I missed the date completely. The copyright page definitely says Second Publication. Is there any way to edit a submission or do I need to cancel this one and make the changes with a new one? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:09, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:: You will need to cancel this one and submit again. However, I recommend you submit the clone at the same time - so we do not loose the 2011 date - Just date, publisher, type and a note saying "First Edition. Data from the copyright page of the second edition" will be enough and that's it :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:14, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Fearful Symmetry ==<br />
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A few small changes/comments [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?524207 here]<br />
* There is no Foreward in the book... there is an Introduction. And we name Introductions by adding the title of the book in brackets when there is no special title, not at the start of the title. If yours does have Foreward instead, do you really have the Ad Astra book? :) <br />
* Use piped numbers to order the contents (so |1 for the intro, |2 for the novel)<br />
Let me know if have any questions [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:50, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:I have to assume the copy I have is from Ad Astra since the copyright page says "Then by Ad Astra". The ISBN and the date match. However, it definitely says "Foreword by Claudia Christian" right after the dedication in my copy which I bought from amazon.com on 2013-11-24. I looked at the current amazon.com version and it says Third Edition and indeed shows "Introduction Claudia Christian, Star of Babylon 5" immediately after a table of contents which does not exist in my copy. Suggestions? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:28, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:: So there are at least 2 different copies out there. This one is the one connected to the ASIN now... Does yours have the same ASIN (if you know)? <br />
:: I'd say to clone for yours and add the "Foreword (Fearful Symmetry)" and not "Fearful Symmetry Foreward" there and add some notes explaining the situation in the notes so it is clear that we indeed have least two. The one in the current book is fully visible so see if it matches yours - if it is the same text, we will variant... Or I can do it for you if you prefer. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:44, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:::It's the same ASIN. I'll give it a try. Likely tomorrow. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:54, 12 March 2021 (EST)<br />
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:::Rather than mess this up, would you please create the variant? I'm getting confused trying to set this up correctly. Cloning wouldn't let me remove/change the Introduction regular title. Once it's there, I can add some additional notes to differentiate it plus add the correct Foreword regular title. BTW, the text of the Foreword in my version matches the text in the Introduction of the version currently up on amazon.com. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:34, 13 March 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: yeah - we will need to remove later. I will fix these and come back to let you know in a bit - on my way out of the door for errands. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:51, 13 March 2021 (EST)<br />
::::: Apologies for the delay - migraine :( Your book is now [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?524207 here]. The one that is now on Amazon is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?828033 here]. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:28, 15 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::: Thanks for this. Hope your migraine situation stays clamed down. There is actually at least one other difference. The current Amazon version has a Table of Contents just prior to the Introduction which is missing from my older version. Do you want me to adjust the Amazon version entry? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:18, 15 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::: Absolutely :) Go ahead and fix whatever is needed. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:48, 15 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Poets and Piracy ==<br />
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See my update [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671085 here]. This is Amazon being a pain. If you go to Amazon US from the left menu (which is based on ISBN10), it leads to [https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_66%3A9781939233646&tag=isfdb-20 this] which is Amazon's way to show that this ISBN belongs to the Kindle edition as well (Kindle on the top of list of editions, that's where this ISBN is attached). Back in April Amazon essentially pulled the ISBNs from the API for ebooks (they removed from the UI months earlier) and now this is the only way to sort them out. So don't pull the ISBN out from a publication unless you had verified it does not belong to the book indeed or we are losing information (and yes, not uncommon not to be in the book itself so your note on that was the correct thing to do). :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:41, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I'll add that to the list of things not to do! Thanks for putting me straight! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:26, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Welcome to Amazon's shenanigans - it had been a real pain to add new ebooks lately - especially from small publishers. These guys paid for ISBNs, Amazon is hiding them :). Add a note that it is not printed in the book when it is not there though :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:33, 21 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Is there a reason I don't always see the Amazon links section in the left menu even if the pub has an ASIN assigned? I see it for some titles but not others. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:52, 22 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: ISBN :) You see them if there is ISBN, you do not if there is no ISBN :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:04, 22 March 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Imperial Twilight ==<br />
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Hello, concerning [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4955622 this submission] you state you have a copy in hand, but still mention "Data from Amazon.com on 2021-04-05" in the notes without specifying which data came from Amazon. If you will primary verify, as you state, then can you clarify what data is coming from Amazon? Thanks! Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:39, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956107 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956110 this submission]. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:45, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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And [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956530 this one] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4956544 here]. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 16:15, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I need some clarification. This the first time I have had this brought up. Do I assume that everything already in the publication is from Amazon.com if there are no other notes? Can you give me an example where what you are asking me to do has been done so I can model it? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:06, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Let me assist here while MagicUnk is asleep. Yes - unless otherwise stated, the data should be from the sources listed. The older the book, the more problematic it is but... well, let's assume it is always the case. :)<br />
:: See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?798535 one of my latest verifications] or [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?786412 here] or [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?701526 this one] (see the credit for the artist). By definition all data of a PV'd book comes from the book. When some pieces of it come from elsewhere (Amazon.com), the exact data that comes from there needs to be listed so it is clear what is NOT from the book. It is the same when the book is not PV'd except there the source listed with no list of what comes from it is presumed to be the source of all information not called specifically to be from elsewhere (thus Amazon.com was indeed the source of all data before you verified). Hope this makes sense. <br />
:: If it helps: usually all BUT the date comes from the book for paperbacks so changing "Data from Amazon" to "Date from Amazon" or "Exact Date from Amazon" is enough to fix the wording. For ebooks, it may be "Date and price". Or you can do "Initial data from Amazon" and then list the elements confirmed via the book (or not confirmed because they are not in the book). As long as it is clear which data is checked where and when (your PV date shows when the book was consulted so no need to date that if you do not want to), we are all good. How much more details you want to add from the book is up to you. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:55, 11 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
::: That helps a lot. I am mostly updating and PVing ebooks I own at this point though I will get to working on the physical books I own as well. I have been doing the PVs after my changes are approved. Is that the right sequence? Looking back at the edit history of a couple of the examples seems to show a bunch of changes made after the PV was done.<br />
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:::Since I can't edit the submissions that are still pending approval to make the changes, I'll cancel them and resubmit with better wording. I'll also update the two that were already just approved to fix the wording. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:45, 12 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: The order is fine. Just make sure you add to the moderator note that you are going to PV after the changes (so you can look them over one more time) and you won’t get asked why you are dropping the sources from the notes. :) Alternatively you can PV before the changes but as the updates can get mixed up or delayed, there will be a time where you had PVd an incorrect record. So I would say to keep your current sequence, just tell us of your plans.<br />
:::: One thing I noticed a few months after I started editing was that I was writing really crappy notes when I started. Not wrong but incomplete or with issues like the one we are discussing here. So going over all your PVd books after you had done a few dozen of them (and rechecking the notes) may be useful. :) Not required or mandatory, just sharing a bit of personal experience. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:05, 12 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Amazon prices ==<br />
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So for cases like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?583350 this one], we want the historical price, not the price as it is now. We are a bibliography - it is a 2016 book, a 2016 price is better than a 2021 one. The 2021 one can go into the notes but let's keep the closest to list page at publication that we can find. I rewrote the note - see what you think about it (and feel free to rewrite). Especially with ebooks, there are a lot of special prices (and once a cheaper paper copy comes out, it tends to get lower - thus the dates in the notes). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:27, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
: PS: And let's not lose the date the book was initially entered on. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:29, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I'm inching closer to getting this right! :) Thanks for pointing out how to do this better. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:34, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
::: No worries. :) Think "historical bibliography" when you edit - the earliest price is what needs to match the date in the date field; any other prices go into the notes. Now - if you bought it at publication and have a price from then and ours is later, yours wins unless it is known to be a promotional one. ;) That's why in some books we will have a price from the publisher site and Amazon and Kobo and B&N dates added in the notes. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:58, 16 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: So what should be done about a publication like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?691815 St. Legier] whose Amazon cost was entered from overseas and because of that has an artificially inflated price? I preordered this ebook myself and paid $5.99 on 2018-12-09. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:05, 27 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Demigod ==<br />
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I approved your submission for the e-book version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?691911 Demigod]. Unfortunately, even though the ISBN is on the title page, it's wrong, bad checksum. I eliminated it and added it to the notes. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:33, 20 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! I saw that after I did the submission and hoped a moderator would fix it so I didn't have to resumbit. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:36, 20 April 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Cultivar ==<br />
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979131 this submission]: What is the source of the different date? Is it within the ebook itself or just the B&N listing? If you compare yours with the Amazon Look Inside for the [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077X278FG Kindle edition] or there any differences? If it's the same book just released at different times on the two platforms, I wouldn't create a separate record. If there are other differences, then separate records would make more sense. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:13, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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Same questions for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4979134 this submission]. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:15, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:The contents appear to be the same with different pub dates on the B&N, Baen, and Amazon websites. What bothers me is that the pub date for the Nook edition is 11/29, Baen edition is 11/30, and Amazon is 12/4. The existing record uses the 11/30 Baen date but the Amazon data which seems wrong. Separate records seemed the best way to deal with this. I'm not sure how to put everything into one record that I can primary verify. Suggestions?<br />
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:BTW, the same problem exists for title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2304017 Heirs to Trouble] which was published on the exact same dates. However, for that pub, there are already two different records but the data with the 11/30 date has the wrong ISBN while showing Amazon info. Again, suggestions? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:39, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::We base the information off the publication first and off secondary sources second. Since the Amazon Look Inside shows a November 2017 copyright statement, I would go with a single record dated 2017-11-00 and a publication note stating that B&N shows availability as of 11/29, Baen as of 11/30, and Amazon as of 12/4. Another option would be to date the publication to the earliest date and include the same statement. If we had similar different bookseller dates for a physical book, we would not create multiple records.<br />
::For Heirs to Trouble, I would do the same (deleting the wrong one). Thoughts? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:49, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::OK. I'll delete the submissions and create a pub update based on what you suggested using the 2017-11-00 date and put the notes into the pub record. I'm assuming I should also change the Title record date to match? Ditto for Heirs to Trouble. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:11, 8 May 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Patreon editions of Glynn Stewart's works ==<br />
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Thank for submitting the Patreon editions of {{A|Glynn Stewart}}'s books and sorry about the processing delays!<br />
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It looks like what you are trying to do is to create new "publication", i.e. edition, records for these novels. They have separate and distinct publication dates and prices, so it would seem that they should be separate publication records as opposed to notes under their respective title records. Does this make sense? [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 13:30, 11 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I originally intended to create new pubs but took this approach due to the advice given on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Patreon_edition_ebooks this Help Desk posting] back in February. I'm perfectly willing to do it either way but really need a definitive answer as to which way to do it. Glynn is quite prolific and there will be plenty more of these editions to add over time. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:37, 11 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:: Oops, I must have missed that discussion! I have posted a reply with additional info and also copied the whole thing to the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Early_releases_from_Baen_and_Patreon Rules and standards discussions page]. Let's see where it takes us... [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:30, 11 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::: The Rules and Standards discussion has been inconclusive so far. I have approved the submissions for the time being -- if we decide to change the data entry standards in the future, the affected record will be easy to find by searching Title Notes fields for the word "Patreon". Thanks for submitting them! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 14:40, 15 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::::You're welcome. I'll continue to do the same thing as new books are released. If there is a change and pub records are created, I'll also be able to upload the covers. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:42, 15 July 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The Black Chronicles ==<br />
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Hello Phil! I approved your submission of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2892456 The Long Black], but I suppose that there are two series with the same title ''The Black Chronicles''. Could that be the case? Regards Rudolf [[User:Rudam|Rudam]] 15:04, 2 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:I did a quick check on Goodreads and there are indeed two different "The Black Chronicles" series. The older one is by J. A. Sanderlin and the newer one is by J. M. Anjewierden. The one for my submission needs to be changed to a new differentiated one. What's the best way to do that? Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:19, 2 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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::Differentiating series names can be done by appending author's name between brackets for one of the two. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:44, 22 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Age of Deception ==<br />
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Hi. I have your submission on hold for a moment as I am wondering if there is a reason you [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5061861 cloned this ebook publication], instead of editing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?814377 the already-existing one]? We generally do not create separate US and UK versions of a single ebook UNLESS they are distinguishable, eg by having different ISBNs. If there are differences, clearly state so in the notes field. If there are not, please edit the already-existing publication record. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:43, 22 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I think I chose wrong. I forgot to check the contents in the UK listing using the 'Look Inside' feature to make sure the two essays were there. Since they are, I'll edit the existing record and cancel the held submission. When I'm done, I'll primary verify since I have the ebook in hand. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:44, 22 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The Dreaming Tree ==<br />
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Can you please check [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?854744 this one]? If the ebook you have is from 1997, it cannot have ISBN13. If it has ISBN13, it is a later/updated version and needs to be re-dated. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:17, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:This is definitely Version 1 of the ebook. Both Amazon and the publisher's website says the ebook pub date is 1997-12-01. Since the ISBN is only referenced on the publisher's website and not in the ebook, I'm going to remove it from the record. I'm really dubious that a DAW ebook was published in 1997 though. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:15, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Or use the ISBN10 (better than lose it - it belongs to the work after all) - some sites tend to convert when posting older books because they forget ISBN10 was a thing. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:22, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Switched to ISBN10 and submitted :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:29, 31 August 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== 1636: Seas of Fortune ==<br />
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$7.73 sounds like $6.99+10.5% tax :) So I fixed the price. If it was indeed priced at 7.73, please correct it back :)<br />
Two more things:<br />
- When cloning back in time, all existing titles need to be redated back to the oldest date. I fixed them<br />
- Are the maps different from the ones in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?433154 paperback]? If not, they need merging/varianting (in case of titles/authors differences although they will need to be explained).<br />
The book is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?855944 here]. As usual - if you have questions, please do not hesitate. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:27, 8 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I bought the ebook on amazon.com for $7.73 (before tax) on 2014-01-01 so I'll change it back.<br />
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:You beat me on the redating of the titles. I was going to submit them tomorrow but I guess I should have submitted them at the same time. Is that the best practice? :)<br />
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:As to the maps, I believe they are all the same. I have proof of the author(s) in my owned copy. The title names I used are my attempt to follow the naming rules in the template. The names used in the other pubs are non-standard so I don't see that they should be a variant (plus they are missing the author credit). The ones for the paperback edition [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?496413 here] are also incomplete. What should be done? I don't see any tool I can use to merge them even if I change their titles. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:42, 8 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: I think that was the time they had the tax included on eBooks - but that’s fine. Make sure it is clear what date the price is from. :) <br />
:: Merge is done via advanced search on titles of pub level or author level duplicate finders cannot catch them. If you are still not sure how, I can post some more instructions tomorrow. :) And yes - date changes and so on should be submitted in parallel with the clone. Or someone will remind you not to forget them. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:57, 8 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::OK. I'm going to try to merge the older non-standard map titles into my new standard titles. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:10, 9 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: Shout if you need help :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:51, 9 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Epic: Fourteen Books of Fantasy ==<br />
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A few things about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858828 this one]:<br />
* Anthology is for a group of stories or poems by multiple authors; when there are at least 2 novels in the list, the type is ombinus<br />
* When using Goodreads in the notes, add the ID for it in the external IDs<br />
* Can we try importing next time so I do not need to merge that many titles? :)<br />
I fixed #1 and #3, will leave you to fix #2 and to add either notes or the first publications themselves for the stories/novels which were not merged and whose date do not match the publication date. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:58, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Crime and... ==<br />
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You may have a bit of a typo in the title of Blaze Ward's essay [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858833 here] - unless it is really called "Crime, and... (Crime and...)". I also marked the anthology as non-genre so it is clear why we have partial contents. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:26, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:Nope. That's actually how it's spelled. (Before regularization it was "Crime, And…") :) I thought about marking it non-genre but wasn't sure. So if it's more than 50% non-genre, mark it non-genre? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:03, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: So it has the stuff in the brackets in there? OK then. <br />
:: Genre publications are all in; non-genre ones only get their genre contents. So if I am skipping stories because they are not genre, the non-genre flag goes on the publication. This one is easy - with only 1 story being ours, the whole publication is absolutely non-genre. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:17, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Drat. The part in parentheses are indeed a goof. I'll fix it. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:21, 23 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Interview credits ==<br />
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Interviews are a bit special - we cannot variant Interviewees so canonical names need to be used - see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:TitleFields:Interviewee the help page]. You can add notes in the publication and in the interview on exact credit. I fixed it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?473503 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:31, 27 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales from the Archives: Volume 1 ==<br />
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Just a reminder - you could have done both edits in the EditPub. When a title has a single publication, you can change the date, authors and title of the title record inside of the publication :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:24, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Looks like I need to have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1867762 this title] removed as a variant from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2437826 this title] so that I can then merge the two titles together correctly. The correct data is in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1867762 this record]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:23, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Yup. But because you caught me in a good mood, I did the untangling for you this time :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:26, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Thank you! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:29, 29 September 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== SurrenderPublication ==<br />
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?462880 The maps here] have very uncommon and non-standard naming. Use "The Island of Avristar" or "The Island of Avristar (map)" or even "The Island of Avristar (map)(Surrender)" if you must but this format "Surrender (map: The Island of Avristar)" is wrong on so many levels for the DB... for one - we put the book name in the brackets, not the actual name of the entry. And map is always added on its own in brackets and not as a part of... something. Would you mind fixing these? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:08, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Sure. I thought I was following the correct naming standard for interior art which says "Interior art should have the same title as the fiction or essay it is associated with." but I'll fix these and do it the way you requested going forward . [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:02, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: That means that if the story is called "The World of A", the interior art which illustrates it is called "The World of A", not that we make up a long name out of whole cloth. See the next sentence: "If it is independent of other content, and has no apparent title or caption" - yours have its own name. If it is not attached to anything special, it will be called "Surrender" or "Surrender (map)". But as you have a name here, you can use that. We add (map) to maps to separate them from illustrations (as a practice). Hope that makes sense. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:10, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::That makes sense. Thanks. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:17, 8 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Linking ISO disks? ==<br />
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Hi! Have you thought of adding links like I did for my Box Set[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?735216] to Warlord[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?861883] and the rest of your BAEN ISO's so they connect to the ISO disks?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:33, 10 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:If there's a better way to link them, I'd be happy to change what I've done and will do so going forward. How do you setup those links when the problem I'm working around is an omnibus included in another omnibus? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:45, 10 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I was thinking more like the link I added to Warlord[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?861883]. also the overall Omnibus ISO's could use a bit more structure(better grouping of series and collections). As for the omnibus in an omnibus I'll have to look back at previous work to see how I handled it, been away for three years and I'm a bit rusty on somethings.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:28, 10 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Thanks. I like the way you did the link on "Warlord" and will both incorporate links going forward and put them in place for the existing titles. I am thinking about what would make sense for a better structure for these CDs/ISOs but it may take a while to implement. The need to use the included omnibus regular titles instead of the omnibus title names makes it especially complex. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:13, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::Is the order of publication I see on The Honorverse[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?860583] disk the same as the ISO order? As for the omnibus problem, what you have now would appear best and the note you have helps explain it. I was thinking of ordering the books as novels, anth. , coll. then omnb. with any intros and excerpts with the appropriate section and order numbers displayed.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:12, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::The ISO is an exact image of the CD so it has the same directory structure. There is a display order on the index webpage that tends to show titles ordered within series for the focus author for the CD. The extra titles are a bit more variable on how they are shown but most often just shown by title grouped alphabetically by author on a secondary webpage. I could try to change to that sequencing but that still leaves the omnibus title problem (grrr...). I rather like your idea for grouping alphabetically by type. That would let me put the omnibus titles last as they are now. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:11, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
Go a head and reorder them. Lets just do the Honorverse one first, get it displayed right and use that for the others.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:42, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I was thinking a little more aggressive. Such as giving the Honor Harington novels a single number say 2 and the ten on the list would 2.1. 2.2, 2.3 etc. The intro about the disk would be 1. Anything with a series would get its own number. If you want I can do this one as an example. I may display the numbers on some to see how it looks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:06, 11 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::Go ahead. I'm great at following good examples! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:56, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::How does this look. Each number is the beginning of a series or a single book(The Honorverse[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?860583]).[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:28, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: I kinda like it but someone should add a note inside of the publication explaining the numbering and what is showing - because otherwise someone will helpfully put the visible ones behind pipes sooner or later :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:45, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::Note added.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:30, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::I like this and can do it for the other CDs/ISOs. There's one change I'd like to see in the sequencing which is to move the "Worlds of Honor Anthologies" to immediately after "War of Honor". That puts all of the Honorverse titles together per the theme of the CD as well as making the sequence match the title sequence on the website index page of the CD. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:56, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
OK, made the change in in title order.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:27, 12 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks! That looks great! I'll use this as a template for the rest of the Baen CD-ROM Library series. I'll start fixing the rest of the existing series members and then go back to adding new members.<br />
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: A question. Now that we have a solid version for the Honorverse CD, should I just clone it and make the minor changes needed to create the ISO title as well? I do have the ISO in hand so it would be easy to do. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:33, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::Not a subject I known much about. I thought the ISO was the CD ROM. If their two different things than yes.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:38, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Had a quick look at the subject and and the ISO is the download version and the CD ROM was the physical. Got it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:42, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::I've been thinking some more about the ISO versus CD-ROM situation. I've been planning that each type should have its own separate title but am I wrong? Should there only be a single title but two publications, one for the CD and a different one for the ISO with (ISO) added to the title name? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:21, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::: IF the ISO is the downloadable version of the disk, they get one Title, two publications if their titles match. If they don't match, they get separate titles and one of them become a variant of the other. If all you want is to do is to add the ISO on the title so they are separate, don't :) Just use the same title and explain the format in the notes of the publication. We do not do separate titles for ebook, hc, pb and cd after all. No reason to do it differently here IF they are the same. See how [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2931192 all formats] use the same title for example (yeah, I know - more complicated but the principle is the same). We do not spin a new title for format change, we do it for title/author/language change and contents change.Hope that makes sense. :)[[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:29, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::Single title it is with two publications. I have a little bit of cleanup to do! :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:41, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::: Famous last words. There is always some cleanup to be done around here... :d [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:48, 13 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales from High Hallack: The Collected Short Stories of Andre Norton, Book 1 ==<br />
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The Cleanup Report [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/cleanup_report.cgi?93 Publication Title-Reference Title Mismatches] show [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442115 Your pv pub], too. So the question is how the title on title page is printed? The title of publication has to be the same as the collection title. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 15:47, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:The title page reads exactly "Tales from High Hallack The collected short stories of Andre Norton, book 1". Should I make this pub a variant of the current title to fix the problem or is there something else that should be done instead? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:00, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Yep, unmerge yours and variants will need to be created. As a rule - if you are changing a publication title, you either change the title one at the same time (if there is only one pub) or you split out from the bigger title and get yourself a variant. . And I wonder if the other ones do not need some massaging. I'd check with their PVs to see what is on their title pages if I were you. Ha, one of them is you. How convenient. So both ebooks have different title pages? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:33, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::How do you unmerge a title? And yes, both ebooks I own have different title pages! However, I just double checked [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?454465 this one] and it is correct. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:54, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::: Go on the title page. Look on the left for a menu called "Unmerge Titles]. :) There is a help page once you start the process ([http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:UnmergeTitles here is it directly]. One warning - never use that to try to pull novels out from omnibuses - it will create a new novel with the name of the omnibus. This is what Remove Titles is for. The UI WILL show you the ability to uunmerge from inside of the omnibuses but it is... not what you want. In this case no omnibuses involved so no issues. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:06, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::Thanks! I looked for the tool on the pub instead of the title. Sigh... Unmerge submitted. I'll create the variant once it's approved. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:14, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::::: Think of it this way - you remove title from a publication which kicks a title from a pub but does not change any titles so it belongs inside of a pub menu. When you are splitting titles, you want each of the publications to keep a copy - you will get 1 or more new titles. The newly created titles get their names and authors and dates from the publication you split it with (so if you check 4 checkboxes on that screen, there will be 4 new titles); the old one remains the same. Which also means that sometimes the old one needs re-dating - if the early guys had been kicked out, it is the reverse process of importing future dates. And sometimes the 4 you just split out need to actually be merged together :) Always fun around the DB :) <br />
:::::: PS: First title wins in such cases on the variants - so the parent will be the first one (date-wise) unless there is a very good reason for a reversed variant. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:27, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::: Second PS: As "The Collected Short Stories of Andre Norton" is the series and we do NOT record the series as part of the name of a book even when it is there on the title page (we use simplified titles), are you really sure you want to carry that long name and not just "Tales from High Hallack: Book 1". This will be more in sync of how we record titles (and sooner or later someone will decide to clean your title for you. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:30, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::::Changed the title and pub names to "Tales from High Hallack: Book 1". So, since this title date is 2 days earlier than "Tales from High Hallack, Volume 1", "Volume 1" should become the variant, correct? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:13, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::::::: Yup. I did not look but make sure the coverart title is also fixed. And you technically have a few essays that need splitting as well - the ones that carry the book name on them (if we want to be by the rules as strictly written anyway. I usually do not press too much on that when the difference is in Book/Volume/Vol. or 1/I and similar but the cover title will need to be fixed). :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:23, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
Thanks for solving that problem. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 13:52, 15 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Glad to help. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:44, 15 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales from High Hallack, Volume 1 ==<br />
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HI! The title says Book 1[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?442115] but the cover illustration is Volume 1. Is the cover image incorrect and the inner title "Book 1". THanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:06, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
: See the thread just above this one. :) We do need a note on the discrepancy in the Pub notes though. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:12, 14 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I'll add the note when I correct the titles of the two essays. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:43, 15 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The Honorverse Disk Authors ==<br />
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If I approve [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5125295 this], you will have a publication author different from the reference title author which is a big no-no around the DB. I do not see any other updates pending so there are two ways this can go technically:<br />
* You can split the title and variant it to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2925798 this] once I approve the author change.<br />
* Both pubs and the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2925798 here] get unknown as an author. <br />
As there are no moderator notes telling me what direction you are going and this single update will leave everything midway, I am making sure that you plan to finish the needed updates - so I am checking on the plan before I approve. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:06, 20 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Oof. I did this trying to follow the advice given near the bottom of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Baen_CD-ROM_Library this] Help Desk topic. At the time, I was thinking that the physical CD-ROMs would have a different title than the ISO images so one could be "uncredited" and the other be "unknown". I changed my mind and have since been working under the assumption that they are just two different publications of the same title and forgot about the author differences. While writing this note, I've also come to the conclusion that I have been misapplying the advice since with the ISO images, I am still working with a primary source, not a secondary source as I somehow originally assumed. Therefore, the author for all of the ISO images should be "uncredited" just like it is for the CD-ROMs. Does this make sense? It if does, I'll change the author for the titles and pubs I've already created for ISOs from "unknown" to "uncredited" and cancel this submission. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:34, 20 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: I’d use uncredited for both. Unknown on a publication is for cases where we literally have no idea who may be credited as the author because the only source we have has only a title but no author. Very very rare. We are more likely to variant into unknown (when we know that there is a ghost writer but still have no clue who). Add the note that the credit is based on the format you have if that will make you feel better. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:44, 20 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Imports, Imports, imports... ==<br />
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You know that we have an Import function and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/find_pub_dups.cgi?864571 this] could have been avoided (including all the typing), right? Go and merge things now please :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:12, 21 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:I haven't used Import enough that it even occurred to me. I'll certainly use it in the future - there are still another 11 Baen CD-ROM Library titles to do so there'll be plenty of opportunity! BTW, it hasn't been a lot of typing. I'm using a spreadsheet and doing a bunch of cut and paste both to build the entries where possible and then to enter them into the Add Omnibus form. I'll get the merges submitted later tonight. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:02, 21 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:: Typing or copy/pasting and then merging and then having someone to approve the merges. Still more work for you and for the moderators than it could have been. :) Import is your best friend. If it is one title, import or merge will take the same time so I tend not to care what people do - I will point to the import but won't insist. But for big omnibus editions? Well... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:15, 21 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== The 1634: The Baltic War Disk ==<br />
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This is a huge one[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?865041], I think adding some reference numbers in notes to the corresponding sections might help for this one.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:08, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:It is huge and the most complex one so far. Are you thinking something like a section called "Title Quick Reference" with entries formated "Title #n" "Series/Universe name"? If there's only one title in a series or it's a bunch of unrelated titles, that could make the notes huge as well (and some of them are already big because of the omnibus notes). Do you have an example I could model on or adapt? For that matter, I'm going to have to go back to the other Baen CD-ROM Library titles and do the same expansions of the anthologies and collections. Doing the expansions for this one, I discovered some variations in a couple of the contents that I hadn't originally noticed and that we need to track. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:18, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::You have existing lists in notes already why not add the the sorting # to this. I'll have a better look today or tomorrow and maybe do a sample test.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:32, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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:::Great! BTW, the existing lists in the notes are only for the contents of the omnibus titles since there wasn't any way to include an omnibus inside another omnibus and I didn't want to lose track of the titles that were actually included on the CD-ROM/ISO image. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:21, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Minor change as a first idea I underlined series and collection titles with description beside three of them. Are there more titles to come, or is this complete?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:25, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::That looks good. I think there's a space missing between the titles and the descriptions though. What do you think about underlining all of the omnibus titles in the notes so they stand out more? In any case, all the titles and notes are there and this pub is complete. Once we settle on this formatting, I'm ready to clone this pub to create the ISO pub version. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:15, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:::Adjust and add as you see fit, I'm done for the night and won't be back unto tomorrow evening. I have some other ideas but they will have to wait. :)[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:30, 25 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::::I made some changes that I think help with clarity. Let me know what you think. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:26, 26 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
:Yes much better. It looks and feels more organized and easier to follow. How many more disc are there?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:48, 26 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
::I'll put the same changes in the other existing titles. I have another 3 CD-ROMs in hand plus another 10 ISO images. If someone else has the missing CD-ROMs, they should be able to clone the ISO images and make the appropriate changes to match the format of what has already been done. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:15, 27 October 2021 (EDT)<br />
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== Isaac Asimov writing as Paul French ==<br />
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As per the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PublicationFields:Author help page]: <br />
* "For example, Isaac Asimov's "Lucky Starr" books were originally published under the pseudonym of Paul French, but later reprints were given both names: "by Isaac Asimov, writing as Paul French". In these cases you should still enter Paul French as the author and record the dual credit in the notes.". <br />
I fixed it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869757 here]. And yes - we probably have a few copies that need fixing but still - let's not add new copies with the wrong author credit :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:04, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
:Thanks! I cloned it so I didn't think to check the fields help. I suspect the clone source is also wrong but it doesn't have the note so I can't be sure. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:33, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
:: Well - it made me laugh. It is literally the example we are using to explain how to add the author in these cases. :) Sometimes some of the very old books are added before the rules were agreed on (and sometimes an editor was just asleep at the wheel). So... always check things when they look interesting. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:46, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
::: One thing: As we always go by the title page of the book I assumed that when you said "The author is shown as "Isaac Asimov writing as Paul French".", that's what you meant. If that is not the case and the title page says something else, we need to update again and explain what says what and where (and the title page will determine how we handle the author field). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 09:02, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
::::All is well. That's exactly what it has on the title page. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:17, 22 November 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Four Roads Cross ==<br />
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As Paw Press is a UK company, the Price field will contain the UK price [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?871463 here]. Out of curiosity: why adding the German price to a UK book? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:35, 6 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:OK. Missed that in the fine print. :) Do I need to make that change for his other pubs where I have both prices? It was simultaneously released on Amazon in the US, UK, DE, and AUS. I had a link to the amazon.de site for the price so I thought I'd include it. If it's a problem, I won't do it in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:22, 6 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:: There are multi-country publishers and there it is fair game. But the ones domiciled in one country? Unless they are publishing for a different country, we want their home currency. With ebooks, if the price is weird (2.62 or something), look around the other 3 English language Amazons and see where the price is "proper" - 99% of the cases, that's your proper domicile for the book. With other languages, it is trickier. Usually language follows the Amazon (except for Spanish (Spain/Mexico) and Portuguese (Amazon Spain, Germany or Netherlands for the European version; Brazil for the Brazilian where you need to figure out which side of the ocean that edition is from) but there are publishers who actually price in US$ - and just convert for the non-US markets even when the text is not English - usually self-publishing or publishers which belong to authors.<br />
:: BTW: I fixed one more this evening. You can add as many prices as you want to the notes so the German one is not a problem - I was just curious). But yes - if you have other cases like that and the same publisher published, I'd swap them. One day we may have a multi-field in there so all prices will be on equal footing but in the meantime - follow the publisher. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:31, 6 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14492 Four from the Witch World] ==<br />
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Hi, I just saw that this publication has February stated in the notes but March (1989-03-00) in the publication date field. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 01:39, 9 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:Thanks for catching that. Fixes to the pub and title have been submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:57, 9 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== The Expanding Universe Volume 3 ==<br />
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In your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?646894 this anthology], will you check on the spelling of the story by T. M. Catron? Is it "Fugitive's Gamble" or "Fugitives' Gamble"? I ask because I have the printed version of the anthology and mine is spelled "Fugitives' Gamble". Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:15, 17 December 2021 (EST)<br />
::The ebook shows "Fugitives’ Gamble" as well. I missed that. Go ahead and make that title change. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 20:05, 17 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Shadow of a Dark Queen ==<br />
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Regarding your changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29843 Shadow of a Dark Queen], shouldn't the 'Novindus (map)' be page [6] since the page number is not printed? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 23:21, 17 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:My interpretation of the page number rules is that the [#] construct is only used for pages that are before the numbered pages <b>and</b> where the unnumbered page would be before the first numbered page even if it is only derived from the first actual printed page number. In this case, the publisher apparently started numbering with the first printed page after the cover which is the half-title page but doesn't actually print a number on a page until page 8. Hope that makes sense. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:35, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:: The first numbered page is page 8. The map is in the series of unnumbered pages before page 8. The second bullet point under "Pages without a printed page number" [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PubContentFields:Page here] applies, making this [6]. This also explaines the numbering in the last note, "Cast of Characters" spans pages [7] - 9. <br />
:: The first bullet point only applies to pages within a series of printed number. You have correctly shown page 11 without brackets even though it is unnumbered, since it occurs after page 8, the first numbered page. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:20, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::OK. Looks like I overthought it. I'll make the change. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:43, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: I only pointed this out because I think you are doing a great job and I can tell you care. Every additional pair of eyes that look at a record have the potential to make that record better. Thanks for your hard work! [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:07, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::::Appreciated. There are so many twisty details in this application that it's challenging getting everything right! Cheers! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:34, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Belgarath the Sorcerer ==<br />
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Phil, there are two problems with your changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?196017 Belgarath the Sorcerer].<ul><br />
<li>The page number 'fep & bep' is not allowed by standards. I'm suprised this got by the moderator. Pick either fep or bep.Then, change the relevant note to "Endpaper map copyright © 1995 Larry Schwinger" used on both front and back endpapers. This wording is just for illustration, use whatever feels correct.<br />
<li>'Larry Schwinger' is an alternate name of 'Laurence Schwinger'. Make [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2959761 Belgarath the Sorcerer (maps, endpaper)] a variant of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1488175 Belgarath the Sorcerer (gatefold map)] using the top half of the make variant form. Tell me if this is new to you, I will do it and explain variants more fully. The best way to have hadled this title would have been to import [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?982486 Belgarath the Sorcerer (gatefold map)], That's what all the other pubs are using. We now the same map with different titles. If you wish to go this route. just merge your title with the last one I showed you.</ul> [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:34, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Agree about the page number and will change. However, if anything, the gatefold maps are the variant because they are from the paperback editions which were published later than the hardcover editions. Plus the endpaper art is specifically credited to Larry Schwinger on the copyright page so the record needs to show that even though 'Larry Schwinger' is a variant of 'Laurence Schwinger'. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:52, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:: Ignore the names of the titles for a minute. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5176564 This edit] linked the two titles so that they would both appear on the cononical author's bibliography page [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25806 here]. Take a look at [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#Two_Existing_Entries Help:How to record a variant title] under the section 'Two Existing Entries'. <br />
:: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5176572 This edit] not technically necessary, changed the names to show your map name as the parent. To see why it wasn't necessary, look at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1488175 the parent] title. Notice that both variants exist. If you click on any of the pb pubs, it still shows the 'gatefold' title, even though I changed the name of the parent. The same would have been true of the hc if I didn't change the title. Do you understand? Walk through all of this then ask questions. When this is clear, we'll look at another type of variant. (Unless you don't want to.)<br />
::I left the page number for you to fix. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 19:45, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::Thanks. I'm still wrapping my head around the variant process. In this case, I forgot that you have to create a variant parent if the author is not the cannonical author name. I see how to do it but hadn't done it myself yet. (Keeping the submission flow moving while waiting for approvals is painful.) I can think of these types of variants:<br />
:::*Straight title name variants where the author has the same name but the title varies. (These are straight forward and I have done them as well as Title unmerge and then variant.)<br />
:::*Author name variants where the title has an author where the author is a variant of the cannonical author name (as above). (Haven't done these but think I see how now.)<br />
:::Are there others? (BTW I may be slow responding for the next few days due to the holidays.) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:30, 19 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:::: No problem, answer when/if it suits you mood/schedule!<br />
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==== Variants Continued ====<br />
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The situation you reference above, new title under an alternative name where the parent doesn't exist is explained in [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_record_a_variant_title#A_Single_Entry_Under_an_Alternate_Name A Single Entry Under an Alternate Name]. The mechanics of all variants fall into either section one or section two. <br />
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Here are some 'Alternate Names with Canonical Titles' which you have created. Taking care of them will give you some practice. I'm not saying whether a parent exists or not, you will have to determine that yourself.<br />
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?307199 Claire N. Vaccaro], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?334875 Travis Taylor], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?43721 Elizabeth Scarborough], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11708 Karen Rigley], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19205 Kevin Johnson], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23016 C. Lee Healy], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?14656 Pauline Griffin], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?135430 Louis Glanzman], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25920 Donato].<br />
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You asked what other situations require variant treatment.<br />
*Translations are handled via make variant. (To see the example, make sure your preferences are set to Display translations on Author and Series pages <b>All</b> and 'Check' Display translations on Title pages) In 2019, an Englsih language magazine published a translation of an Austrian poet's German language poem, from 1976. <br />
# [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2937475 This title] is the English translation created the same as any other content title.<br />
# [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5138990 This variant] creates the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2941471 German parent]. Note all the fields we can access in one step. Here is how it looks on the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?213941 Author's Bibliography].<br />
*Serializations are also handled via make variant. A serial title is merely another form of content title. Make variant is used to link the serial to a title record. [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_connect_serials_to_titles Here] is the relevant help section.<br />
** [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5169715 This variant] creates the following [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2956770 title record] (note the rest of the serial installments have also been linked) resulting in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?275910 Author's Bibliography].<br />
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I know you could have looked all this up when you needed to, I did this to give you an easy reference while you get comfortable with the process. Hope it is of some use. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:36, 19 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Polgara the Sorceress ==<br />
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I was going to supply the promised primary varification for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?196061 Polgara the Sorceress], but, I see the same problem as 'Belgarath the Sorcerer'. This one just needs the page number corrected, it has already been properly varianted. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:47, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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:Submitted fixes for this one. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:32, 18 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Keltichronicon ==<br />
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We only add the publication title as a disambiguation for generic essay titles (Introduction, Foreword, etc.). We do not add it to fiction. If the author reuses a fiction title, we record the titles as per the publication and add a title note regarding the contents being different. So for the duplicate Keltichronicon titles, I added a title note of 'Author reuses "Keltichronicon" title in multiple publications. Do not merge without verifying content is the same.' vs. the proposed disambiguations. Feel free to tweak the notes to fit the content better if needed. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:12, 30 December 2021 (EST)<br />
:Thanks! One more item on my "Now I know how to do it right" list! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:33, 30 December 2021 (EST)<br />
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== Balance of Trade ==<br />
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I rejected [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5193995 this one] for now. These two types of essays can be indexed if the editor finds them substantial (like the essay I added [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?868181 here] for example). At 2 pages each (possible 2 pages anyway based on page numbers), these may be worth retaining as essays. As there is a PV, Bob can check the book and decide if they are worth having or they are just blurbs. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:24, 11 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:OK. I'll check with him. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:48, 11 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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: After reviewing the Help text, I've decided that they meet the criteria and won't re-propose removing them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:52, 12 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Beyond the Veil ==<br />
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Hello. I have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5200892 your submission] on hold as I am in doubt about the correctness of the date. In the notes you state "Gutter code "Q11" (March 1986) on page 213 indicates probable first printing", while recorded date is 1986-05-00. Could you check and/or clarify? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:46, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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:That is the correct gutter code. I took the month from the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Gutter_code#:~:text=Please%20note%20that%20%22gutter%20code,the%20week%20of%20the%20year. Gutter Code Help page]. This seems to be a common issue for all three of the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?36342 Sacred Band of Stepsons / Beyond] series SFBC editions. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:57, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Do we know where the recorded date of May 1986 is coming from? Should we update it to March ? I'm not an expert on gutter codes and its relationship with publication dates, but I'm wondering... [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:50, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Locus1 as it says in the first note. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:51, 18 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::Oops, sorry about that. :) Thanks for the clarification! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 04:22, 19 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Mageborn Traitor Re forced reject ==<br />
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Hi Phil. I had to do a forced reject of this title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5202566] the other night. You can copy the work from what I see in the link and resubmit. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:10, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Thanks. Resubmitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:23, 21 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Runelords ==<br />
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Hi Phil! You want to change the title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5207347] to the British variant "The Sum of All Men" plus add interior art under that title in the American edition. Just checking if this is a copy paste error or am I missing something. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:01, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:The title page shows "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men". Since the series name isn't supposed to be in the title, that leaves the title as "The Sum of All Men", hence the changes. Am I misapplying the standard? BTW, the cover only shows "The Runelords". [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:18, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I wonder if all Tor books have this on the title page, have a look at this in notes[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231937]. If that's the case than the title would be "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men", which doesn't affect the series name. A bit more investigation maybe needed.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 14:54, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::If you click on[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?527034] External ID "US" and use look inside the title page is "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men" , also the look inside Paw Prints shows the same.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:00, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::If you use look inside of other "Runelord" series Books the "Tor Books for David Farland" just abbreviates the title to "The Runelords"[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:08, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::Looks like I made the wrong change and it should be "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men" for both the title and the new interior art. Once that's done, I'll need to Unmerge the title and make it another variant. <br />
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::::I also question if [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46402 this pub] actually exists or was a placeholder that should now go away. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:11, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::: Placeholder for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119701 this one] (if you want another opinion). Zap it. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:45, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::::Delete submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:50, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
: I think its safe to say all the pb's are the same but what about the hc's, no one has PV one and look inside is useless.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:54, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Deleted , will be gone till later this evening.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:56, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I'm working from a physical copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119701 US first edition] and will PV once all my changes are in place. If you reject [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5207347 this submission], I'll resubmit everything along with the title and interior art title set to "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men", then Unmerge and variant. Alternately, I think you can correct that submission as a mod and save one more approval. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:18, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::: You can self-reject - go to your pending changes and you will see the option. :) Mods can not correct - we can approve or reject. Then we can fix/restore (aka copy things back) but we cannot modify a submitted change. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:21, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Deleted , will be gone till later this evening.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:56, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Here are several ideas to fix this.1-Leave everything as is.2-Change all the pubs and title record to "The RuneLords: The Sum of All Men" hc & pb(high probability this what all of them are) and if in the future the hc's have only "The Runelords" on the title page they can be unmerged and made variants. 3-Change only the pb's and unmerge the hc's now and make them variants, when a hc is PV in the future the title record can be left or reintegrated back to the longer title. Option 2 creating the hc variant is the easiest as a moderator, option 3 more work now and probably reintegration later. Thoughts?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:27, 26 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I agree with option 2. I think it's the most likely as well, especially since the Look-Inside of the ebook implies a 7th printing of the mass market pb as its source. I've submitted the changes for the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2977728 interiorart] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?955433 maps] titles to make sure they aren't missed. The rest would be better done by a mod. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:57, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Away from computer will be back this evening. Will walk you through process this evening.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:43, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::::More than happy to learn something new. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:23, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Ok. STEP 1-In edit this pub change the title & cover art in each pub to the longer version. STEP 2-in main tile record[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?26785], click "Edit Title Data" & change to longer title. STEP 3-Pick a pub ie[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278361] and click cover link, again "Edit Title Data" to longer title. Since "The RuneLords" title is already a variant, the new title just replaces it and nothing else to do. Have at it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:09, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::I think I submitted all of them except [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46404 this] where I asked the sole PV to check it and change if necessary. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:53, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::One more, main title record[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?26785] to change, if you look at a random pub[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119701] the title in Fiction and Essays is still "The Runelords", once changed than all done.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:32, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Historical Notes (The Dragon Waiting) empty record ==<br />
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Hi Phil! Just as a heads up when unmerging records you have to check if the title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2977911] record is now empty. If more than one pub is connected to it this is not a problem. Two unmerged, one left empty which needs to be deleted. I'll let you submit the deletion.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:43, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 21:41, 27 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:: If you are unmerging every single book, then you could have just renamed the thing instead (or unmerged the ones that need a new title/author and renamed whatever remains behind) - that way you don't have anything to clean after that. That way we also don't lose the history of the old (now deleted) title. Either way works at the end - but just heads up for a possible option. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 10:47, 28 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::: Thanks. In this case it was one I had just added so no real history to lose. I'll keep it in mind though. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:20, 28 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::: Yep, noticed that - but it may be valid for other similar cases. You cannot submit the delete until the unmerge is approved (the system won't allow it). If you do a unmerge+rename, or just a rename (if all pubs need the new one), you can submit in parallel. As I said - just mentioning another way to get you to the same place. Thanks for taking care of this one :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:35, 28 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Temporary Agency ==<br />
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In your recent change to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34715 this] pub, you seem to have mistakenly used Libris-XL instead of LCCN for the external entry. You may also want to PV it while you're there. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 16:14, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:The record shows he verified it on the 18th. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:36, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
::My bad. It was indeed LCCN and I did the PV too quickly. Fix submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:57, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Nice to see a non-transient PV. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 19:29, 29 January 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Bujold ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=bujold&type=Name; Since Lois McMaster Bujold has dozens of credits and Lois Bujold only has one, I think they're the same and the shorter name should be made a variant; the longer name has several interior art credits, too. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (EST)<br />
:Agreed. Variants submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:19, 1 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Iron Butterflies ==<br />
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https://archive.org/details/voyagersnovel00lord; You just PV'd this book, and I searched for more info and found the ISBN on OL links to that book on Archive.org, which has Iron Butterflies' ISBN on the copyright page but a totally different one on the covers. Don't know if that's useful or not. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:Interesting OCLC problem. I saw that when preparing my edit for "Iron Butterflies" and have added the correct WorldCat ID in that edit. I didn't make a note of the OCLC lookup problem though. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:47, 7 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Magic Cup ==<br />
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?311; Futura edition's art has 1979 dates because that's original edition's date; not sure if you're aware. --[[User:Username|Username]] 16:17, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:I assume you are talking about the interior art. Since the Futura cover is different from the US edition, I'm not sure that the interior art isn't different as well. I couldn't find any signatures on the illustrations so I have to assume they are different. That's why I used the 1984 date. I'll happily change the date and author if someone can prove art is the same. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:31, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: https://archive.org/details/magiccupirish00gree; Link is for 1979 McGraw-Hill edition; this, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144215029789, shows, in photo #7, an illustration with a page of text next to it; I typed the phrase "feeding the chickens" from that page into the search box of the Archive copy and 1 hit came up, which was a page of text with the exact same illustration opposite. So I think they're the same. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:34, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:::You are correct. I'll change the artist to "Donald Dean Illustration Design" since that's how it is credited in the 1979 edition. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 9 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Magic Cup: An Irish Legend ==<br />
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Hi Phil. I think the name change[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5222894] maybe a copy paste error? If so I'll approve and remove extra bit. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:32, 10 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:Saw second submission looks more like a company name and not and individual name, so I'll approve.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:37, 10 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:: See entry above this one for an explanation; I helped him out. --[[User:Username|Username]] 21:39, 10 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Pharaoh Contract ==<br />
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Please talk to the other active PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5225654 here] to verify that their book also have the complete printer key and the same Canadian price. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:41, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:This was approved by GlennMcG. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:19, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Approved :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:28, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Voices from the Sky ==<br />
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Hi Phil. Just a reminder to unmerge the changed title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?966414] and then merge with the existing variant.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:36, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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:Thanks for the reminder. Unmerge submitted. Will merge after approval. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:16, 13 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Children of Anthi ==<br />
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Hi Phil, <br />
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5242631 This] is a bad update. The original note reads: <br />
* "Stated 1st printing of 1985 Ace ed.". <br />
Look at the note you are trying to put in its place<br />
* "No printer's key.". Nothing about a stated first printing. <br />
Which means one of two things:<br />
* Your book is not the same as the one you are trying to edit - so approving this edit will essentially invalidate the 3 primary verifications we have and will lose us information.<br />
* Somehow 3 PVs, two of them active, missed that the notes say "STATED 1st printing" while the book does not say anything of the type - which is possible but they need to check their books. <br />
Please discuss that with the 2 active PVs -- and figure out what the case is here. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:58, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:Would you also put [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5242633 this submission] on hold for the same reason. It's the same issue and the same active PVs. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:22, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Done. I'd hope any moderator would do the same but mistakes happen. Now I have them both so you can work with the PVs, figure out what is going on and then we can deal with that. :) I opened the first one almost by mistake - I have a lot of on holds on the board from Fixer (our robot) and my finger slipped into yours - and decided to hold it as I was there anyway). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:32, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
::Used this a lot in the past "Stated 1st printing of 1985 Ace ed." as a catch all for something like "Ace Original / July 1985". These where early days in the database and less detail was used.. As it is I no longer have the books & several hundred others. Need to figure what's gone and remove verifications.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:25, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
:::Found the books in the group not sold, replied to Phil on my page.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:09, 25 February 2022 (EST)<br />
Submission update. Mods can't approve submissions on hold by other moderators, will have to wait for Annie to pull hold or approve submission.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 12:08, 27 February 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Thor's Hammer ==<br />
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Hi Phil. One of the titles needs to be unmeged{http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?31585] & a new variant created. Since there are reviews I would unmerge the 1988 Thor's Hammer, next, update the current 1979 title record to the 1979 pub title & last made the newly created 1988 title record(just unmerged) a variant.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:45, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Yep. Had already planned to do so but had to get the pub title change approved first. Have submitted the unmerge and the title rename. Will create the variant after those are approved. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:28, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Excellent. Next lesson.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:57, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Faerie Wars ==<br />
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Had to do some fixing for the name change on this title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?905752]. In this case there is another Interior Art title connected to it which caused a bit of a mixup in the variant display. I had to change the name back to fix the parent title record them unmerge the Faerie's Wars title, then change the name to Royo, next use advance search to find the parent cover art title record # since it already exists & create the new variant. I was thinking of walk you through the steps but I'll be busy for the next few days & it's probably better to learn the easier changes first. The second Royo was a stand alone title so only had to create a variant to the parent name. Cover art changes can be a little more complicated than fiction titles. Hope this helps.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:59, 3 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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==Link to: Series Number of Dresden Files short fiction==<br />
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As you have PVd a Jim Butcher Dresden Files collection, you might be interested in this topic: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Series_Number_of_Dresden_Files_short_fiction Series Number of Dresden Files short fiction]. If you have any comments, suggestions or objections then please post them to this topic on the Community Portal so that we keep the whole conversation in one place. Thank you. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 09:52, 4 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Those AddVariants ==<br />
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I approved these two by mistake because my brain is still waking up. Careful with the two menus:<br />
* AddVariant - create a new VARIANT. I almost never use that menu - you can use it to add translations or new spelling of titles (but it is better to add the book and then use MakeVariant) or when you need a new empty variant (very very very rarely and well documented).<br />
* MakeVariant - create a parent. That's the menu you usually look for.<br />
I reversed the two Romas Kukalis variants you just added :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:31, 7 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Drat! I'll watch out in the future. Thanks for fixing them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:29, 7 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Folk of the Air ==<br />
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As you verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39978 this one] last month, I hope you have easy access to it. Can you check if the Farrell character is Sam Farrell or Joe Farrell? I have a feeling that we have a name switch in this series which may explain some things around the series name - so let's check the text so I can figure out what we need to do. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:42, 9 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:Wow! I'd expected to be able to do a quick skim and answer this question but the character is constantly referred to only as Farrell with no first name mentioned. I'd have to reread this to definitively answer since there's no ebook edition to do an electronic search within. That said, I found multiple reviews on Goodreads [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58647344-the-folk-of-the-air sic] where he is referred to as Joe Farrell. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:20, 10 March 2022 (EST)<br />
:: No worries, I found those - just wanted to see if there is something easily foundable in the book. If not, then we are good - I will operate based on what I have. Thanks for checking! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:04, 10 March 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Amazon dates ==<br />
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Hi! I saw yesterday that you set the date for a 1976 anthology to 1976-01-01, basing it on Amazon as 'exact date' (I seem to remember that it was one edited by Martin H. Greenberg?). This is an erroneous date: Amazon is known to have dates from the pre-2010s set to the standard XXXX-01-01, when there's only the year known (or to make up or use erroneous date information). And if one thinks of it, the first of January is one of the most unlikely days of publishing (at least it was in 1976). (Amazon also sets a date of a given month to the first of that month, regardless if that is the actual day of publication: quite often this was found to be a Sunday, for example). <br />
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Just wanted to pass on this information. Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 09:09, 19 March 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Divergent Series ==<br />
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Phil, you added missing excerpts to some of your verified publication. I added the series and set the juvenile flag as needed. These edits will not show on your ' My Changed Primary Verifications' report, but I wanted you to be aware of them. If you have questions, ask. I only noticed them because I was looking at Veronica Roth for something else. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:17, 3 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Khyber Connection ==<br />
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Phil, I'm holding this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5302102 submission]. You are adding the count of unnumbered pages, but you are not adding any content? From the help, 'There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded.' [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 22:05, 30 April 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks for catching that. I do know better than to do that. I have cancelled the submission and resubmitted the edit without changing the page count. BTW, I couldn't follow the submission link you provided above. I get this error when I click on it: "Moderator privileges are required for this option". [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:29, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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::Aprroved, sorry about the link. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:22, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== The Siege & The Rescue ==<br />
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Phil, I mistakenly changed the publication dates to unknown for these 4th printings. I reinstated the year for each per your publication notes. The Siege needed to be changed anyway, you kept the date when cloning the first printing. Sorry to cause the alerts. Guess that means it's time to go to bed. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 22:33, 1 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== That Hideous Strength ==<br />
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Hi Phil. I think you forgot to adjust the date[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?900677] to 1966.23:12, 27 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Sure did. Corrected and submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:29, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Twice Upon a Time ==<br />
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Phil, this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5328152 edit] incorrectly changed the page count. Please review the second bullet point under [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Pages Pages] in the help section and submit an edit to restore the correct count. Thanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:56, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for catching this. Restoration change submitted. I missed seeing the single page with a Roman numeral on it when I did the editing. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:13, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No worries, the correction is approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:16, 28 May 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Boundary Shock Quarterly ==<br />
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Phil, since you are a PV for a couple issues of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/seriesgrid.cgi?50811 Boundary Shock Quarterly] I wanted to let you know I am doing a little 'housekeeping' on the series. I'm primarily moving the issue number and theme from the title to the notes. I highlight all changes in the note to moderator to make it easier to follow. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:08, 14 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:12, 14 July 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Foreward vs Foreword ==<br />
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Can you please double check the non-standard spelling of foreword in the following records?<br />
* {{T|2953362|Author's Foreward: A Regency That Never Was}} in {{P|46952|The Shadow of Albion}}<br />
* {{T|2953364|Author's' Foreward: An Empire That Never Was}} in {{P|304826|Leopard in Exile}}<br />
* {{T|2953647|Foreward (The Sword Is Drawn)}} in {{P|363647|The Sword Is Drawn}}<br />
* {{T|2959964|Foreward to the Revised Edition}} in {{P|21173|Magician: The Author's Preferred Edition}}<br />
If these are database typos, please correct. If the publication used this spelling, please add a title note stating the spelling is per the publication. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:17, 9 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:All my typos. Edits submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:55, 9 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Faerie Tale ==<br />
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Phil, this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5385579 submission] is trying to link to the image you asked to have deleted. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:04, 12 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Drat! I must have confused which upload was bad. I have re-uploaded this cover. I'll see if I can locate which cover upload was actually bad. Sorry for the extra work. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:16, 12 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No worries, approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:10, 13 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Call to Quarters ==<br />
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Please double check the ISBN [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911088 here]. I think it is for the tp, not the ebookThanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:02, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:You're right. Edit submitted. A question that just occurred to me: Should I be creating the records for the other publications of the same title if they are listed on Amazon even though I don't/won't have them? I've been desperately trying to get though verifying/updating as much of my collection in the ISFDB as I can before it has to be packed away for my impending move and may have missed doing an expected thing. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:23, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Approved. Absolutely, add records for any of the missing publications. Since you will not be providing a PV, additional notes are often necessary. For example. "Contents from Look inside" (or another source), when adding content titles to an unverified publication. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:46, 18 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Changed Primary Verifications ==<br />
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I've had a number of Changed Primary Verifications, 82 just this year, and most of them are just External ID, so that was fine. The latest one, Chess With A Dragon, I saw it was ContentTitle, External ID, and Note, and decided to see what the changes were. When I look at the Edit History, it looks like nothing was changed, even though those three field were highlighted. Can you tell me why that is, please? Thanks. [[User:AndonSage|AndonSage]] 14:06, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
: A quick note to assist here: it is a quirk of the system: the "History" was never designed to be a history - it is a side effect of how we do submissions. But as it can be useful in some cases, it had been linked and added to assist. As a result, once approved, you see which fields are changed but you cannot see the old value(s) - the new value is now showing where the old value used to be. This is why some moderators ask people to write better and more complete moderator notes and not just list the list of fields they are changing (so PVs can figure out what happened - the system has the list of fields, what it does not have are the details). You can also look at older edits on the same record - if the same field was changed earlier in one of them, then you can see the old value there (as a "new value"). Hope that helps. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:36, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
::I can't add to what Annie stated. For "Chess with a Dragon" for example, I only added the WorldCat ID. Over the last months and several hundred edits, I've been adding more explicit info to the moderator notes to try to give a better look into the change history. See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5394882 this submission] as an example (though it's not one for something where you are a PV). [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 15:34, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Thanks for the response :) [[User:AndonSage|AndonSage]] 13:12, 20 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Call to Quarters ==<br />
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For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?911256 Call to Quarters], you don't need this statement "Amazon shows the publisher as CreateSpace" (a self-publisher). You show the publisher as it is on the title page, and you state where it came from. That's sufficient. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:54, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Submitted edit to remove it. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:33, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: Approved. thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:36, 19 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Squadron Alert ==<br />
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I approved [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5396875 this submission], but have a question. I see a note about Roman Numerals (not yours), but I don't see any Roman Numerals in the Pages field. What's up? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:05, 22 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I probably should have asked myself. The absolute count of pages is 316. Pages 1-4 are unnumbered. There are Roman numerals printed on pages v-vii. The next printed page number is 11 and the last printed page number is 316. There is a map on unnumbered page 9/ix. Does that mean the page count should be ix+305 then? The LCCN and WorldCat records are no help since they both show a count of 316. BTW, the same situation exits here in this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?32925 record] and here in this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45039 record]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:36, 22 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: The Pages field should be vii+316 (Highest <b>printed</b> Roman numeral plus the last page of the book). We always include the Roman numerals, even if there are no indexed titles. The page numbers of the content titles are correct. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:15, 22 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::Edits submitted for all three Roland Green pubs that have this problem. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:32, 23 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
:::: Approved, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:54, 23 August 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Swordspoint ==<br />
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Careful when moving LCCNs around. Take for example [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5417250 this one]. It is a valid LCCN (and that is why we used a template for it) but it belongs to the Arbor House edition, not to the Tor one. So we do not add it to the Tor edition as an external ID. Feel free to edit again and note that it is on the copyright page but belongs to a different edition. Verifying it with lookup is not just about looking if it connects, we also need to make sure the edition and the rest of the details match. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:09, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Wow! I blew that one. I usually do check but obviously missed in this case. Corrected update submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:52, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: That's part of why we have the two sets of eyes system. I approved quite a lot of updates from you after this one which were ok so I think you were just distracted or something :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 21:57, 15 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Lammas Night ==<br />
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Phil, I approved your three edits to this publication and its associated title records. When there is only one publication, you can edit the title record, the coverart title record and the publication with one submission. Every little bit that helps keep the size of the submission queue down is appreciated. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 19:22, 17 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== 979 ISBNs ==<br />
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When you see an ISBN starting with 979 and you use Amazon as a source, always add the ASIN as well. All links to Amazon on the site use ISBN10 (they actually use ASINs because this is how Amazon had always prefered it but for 978-starting ISBNs of paper books, the ASIN is ISBN10). So for 979 ones, the links won't work. So we add ASINs - as we do with any ebook or audible book. If you are adding a lot of new US books, the scenario will become more and more likely to happen - the agency selling ISBNs to small presses and independent authors in USA ran out of 978 ISBNs some time last year so unless someone already had the ISBN, all new ones will be coming as 979s. I fixed it [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?916843 here]. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:45, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks. Should I always add the ASIN for paper books where the source is Amazon even if they have a 978 prefix? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:10, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: No. Only when the ASIN starts with a B - if it is numerical, it is ISBN10 and we do not use the field for that. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:29, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Audible books ==<br />
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When adding an Audible book, we want the list price, not the price Amazon would sell it to you for. In Amazon.com it is hiding under "Buy with 1-click" (if you have that enabled) or somewhere in the general vicinity of the top right corner of the book description usually (or under the cover on mobile) - when you select that radio box, under it there is a "List Price: $24.95" for example. You can also check the list price on Audible.com (it is called "Regular price" there). I fixed it [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?916845 here] and added the Audible ASIN while I was at it. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:51, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
PS: And we have a Narrator template. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:05, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:OK. Will do. Since I have an Audible account, the 1-click price is never the list price for me. I've been trying to get the list price by using a different browser that is not signed-in to Amazon but at least in this case I must have forgotten to search for the title instead of copying the URL from the signed-in account. It looks like I should always just to go to the Audible site to get both the price and the Audible-ASIN. I didn't know about the Narrator template but I'll switch to using it. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:22, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: I did not say to use the 1-click price itself. I said (probably not very clearly) to click on its radio box and look UNDER it - on the next like in Amazon :) I have an Audible account as well - the List price is always hiding under the 1-click one. Hope that helps. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:28, 27 September 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== A King of Masks and Magic ==<br />
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Phil, I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5442136 this submission] as it would duplicate an existing pub. You just need to import the cover art title. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:31, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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I approved your clone submission creating the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?918415 Audio CD] version. You can pick up the length and narrator from the digital audio download above. Tantor would not create a different recording for each format. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:40, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:Oops! Thanks for catching it. I submitted the import of the cover art [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5447745 here] and cancelled the held submission. <br />
:For the CDs, I assume that I should note that the length and narrator are from the digital audio edition? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:13, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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:: Up to you, but I don't think it's necessary. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:06, 9 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Rules of Redemption ==<br />
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Occasionally the Audible ASIN is an ISBN 10 like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?918427 this one]. You enter it in the ISBN field, converting to ISBN 13 when neccessary. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 15:17, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
:I wasn't aware that the Audible IDs that don't start with B are ISBNs but they didn't look like Audible-ASINs which is why I didn't include them as Audible-ASINs. I'll take that into account in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:15, 8 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
:: Just a small clarifying note - unlike paper books ASINs, we always record the Audible ASIN in the Audible ASIN field as well so the link to Audible.com can be created (unlike the Amazon links, we don’t have the Audibles on the left menu). So for Audible ASINs which are numeric, they get recorded in their own field and also converters to ISBN13 to go into the isbn field as John explained above. Hope this makes sense. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 00:26, 9 October 2022 (EDT)<br />
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== Dating excerpts ==<br />
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Hi, I have three submissions of yours on hold [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495384], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495385], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495388], as I noticed that you dated excerpts to the date when the source novel was first published (do I have that correctly understood?) However, that is not correct. The excerpt must be dated to the date of first appearance of the excerpt itself, not of the parent novel. You may want to double-check other edits you've made in the same vein that may have been inadvertently approved, and/or you may want to start a discussion . Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 11:15, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:I used those dates for the excerpts because the copyright statements for them on the copyright page had those dates in them. I didn't even look at the first pub dates for their related full works. The ones you put on hold are title removes for the ones that don't apply to the specific publications. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:31, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Just chiming in to add the help page which governs these dates: [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:TitleFields:Date here]: "Excerpts. Use the date when an excerpt was first published in that form, not the date when the original text it is taken from was published.". The copyright date is never used to date a text in our DB - we look at the publications they appear in, not at whatever dates the copyright shows. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:35, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::This is the first time I ever remember seeing a copyright date specifically stated for an excerpt but I'll make sure to be wary in the future. The problem for these three cases is that the existing excerpts are only dated as unknown so I'm not sure which ones to keep. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:12, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::: Keep the earliest date matching a publication date where the excerpt is in or leave it as 0000-00-00 if all the publications it is in are later printings with no dates. If it is later found in a dated book, someone will adjust it based on that. I also like adding the first and last sentence of an excerpt (and any other known information - "Chapter one" or whatever else is visible) to its notes to facilitate the recognition of repeated excerpts. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2990061 this one] or [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2990062 this one] for an example (always easier to show than to explain) :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:22, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::::This submission is still correct since it is just a removal [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5495388]. Please approve it as is. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:23, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:::::: MagicUnk is in Europe and probably off for the day already and noone can touch things he has on hold I am afraid -- I can assist with the help pages and advice but I cannot touch the submission. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:14, 8 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::::::: I've approved held submissions so you can go in and adjust the excerpt dates. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 08:21, 9 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== A New Clan ==<br />
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Phil, I'm required to cancel [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5499425 this submission] since the publication date is more than 90 days out. Ping me when we are inside 90 days and I will unreject and approve the submission. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:33, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:OK. I saw the warning but wasn't sure what to do. In the future, I'll watch the date more closely. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:27, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Just as a data point: I rarely add anything more than 60-70 days out - even though 90 days are permitted and it will be approved, things tend to change a bit more that far out (and sometimes sources just do not update on time if there are delays and changes). The publishers had somewhat stabilized since the madness of the start of the pandemic and the schedules are a lot more stable but they still wobble more than they used to pre-2020 and updates are a bit slower when there are date changes so books added 3 months out often need an update as the dates get closer (the reason I have somewhat of a visibility on that is because I had been adding a big chunk of our pre-release editions in the last few years). It also depends on the publisher: Baen had been mostly stable lately but even they get some wobbles (interestingly enough, their wobbles tend to be towards releasing earlier, not later). If you insist on adding closer to the 90 days mark, verify the date on the publisher site, not just on Amazon - some of the Amazon records are added during the planning of the year and never updated until they are closer to the date - within 2-2.5 months for example. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:53, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Fifth Season & The Obelisk Gate ==<br />
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Please review the following two submissions, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5506396 The Fifth Season] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5506400 The Obelisk Gate]. The modified titles were removed by submissions processed on 2022-12-09, one day after these were submitted. I'll hold the submissions pending your review. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:03, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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::Looks like I created my own problem. I've cancelled these updates. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:55, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Inherit the Stars ==<br />
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Please check the price [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?925726 here]. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:30, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Oops! Correction submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:06, 14 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:42, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== T. Carlin ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/editpub.cgi?900950; Cover artist and interior artist have different first names; intentional or mistake? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:36, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:My mistake - wrong cover artist. I submitted an update that corrected the cover artist to be Damoro Design along with enhancing the cover art note. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:25, 15 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== The Silent Warrior ==<br />
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Cover art for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?47237 this] is not Chris Achilleos. It's Alan M. Clarke. See [https://ifdpublishing.com/product/trilobite-returns-to-helvoran-large-print/ here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 06:20, 17 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:OK. Go ahead and make the changes to correct it. I just PV'ed it but didn't add the note or artist. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:28, 17 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::● I have added the correct credit to the artist, the web page that the artwork can be found on, and on the artworks’ page, the title of the work. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 15:22, 17 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Anne Renwick ==<br />
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Re: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?324810 Anne Renwick]. Would you mind checking all the excerpts to see which can be merged? I'm asking you since you own all the necessary publications. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:46, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Will do. Some of them will resolve when I remove them from the audiobook and audio CD editions so it may take a few days. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:11, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:52, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Icebreaker (Patreon edition) ==<br />
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Consider creating a publication record rather than adding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5514244 this information] to the title record. I'm not insisting nor am I holding the submission. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:41, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:I'm willing to but I'm following the guidance given to me [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions/Archive/Archive19#Early_releases_from_Baen_and_Patreon here] back in 2021. In fact, I'd like to do it because I also have saved the associated covers so they could be uploaded later and this would let me upload those as well. As far as I know, at this point it's only 30 Glynn Stewart titles that would be impacted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 18:21, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: How different are the covers and the books from the mass market edition? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:37, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::: I approved your submission. Thanks for the heads-up, I didn't notice that discussion last year. Not treating them as separate publications doesn't make sense to me, but I'll bow to the conventional wisdom. Hold on to your covers, maybe this will come up again. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:42, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::The covers are the same as the ebook covers but have PATREON EDITION prominently printed on them. The title pages also have PATREON EDITION printed on them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 20:40, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::: Let's wait out the holidays and we probably should start the discussion again. The Patreon editions are not eArcs and that conversation went in that direction very quickly. I am not sure the difference was even noticed later on... On one hand, we don't enter every single "version" of an ebook unless there is a difference enough (or we will have hundreds of versions per ebook record because some authors upload new files constantly). Pn the other, determining what difference matters is tricky - a new cover or a new excerpt always qualify (as we record data for those); Patreon - I am not sure. So we probably should try to have this discussion again and see if it can stay on topic. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:10, 21 December 2022 (EST)<br />
::::Now that we're well past the holidays, how do we restart the discussion? Glynn Stewart just published another Patreon Edition for a new title. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 10:22, 27 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Ian Douglas variants ==<br />
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What were you trying to do with those? The canonical name for that author is William H. Keith, Jr. so the variants under the Ian Douglas name can only exist if there is a book containing them. If I approved them, they could be deleted overnight when the report finds them. So instead of varianting first, add the book which contains them and then variant them up to the correct canonical title. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:55, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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:This is messy. Titles are the same but the author is Ian Douglas instead of William H. Keith. The ebook title pages show "Originally published under the name William H. Keith". Note no "Jr." I expect that should be a note, correct? Do I still create new and variant to the title by "William H. Keith, Jr."? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:35, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: Yes. The best way to handle that cause is to add the books with the name Ian Douglas and then variant post-approval. The lack if the Jr. in the "originally published" statement is kinda irrelevant unless you can track a book with the name without the Jr. - in which case there will be yet another variant. The parent title will always be using William H. Keith, Jr. even if he never published the story under that name because this is the canonical name. <br />
: I can unreject and approve the variants if you want and if you plan to add the books today - but if they are still around overnight, they may get deleted (if someone works the orphaned titles report). Let me know how you want to proceed. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:49, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== GraphicAudio audio books ==<br />
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Just a quick note - these are usually dramatizations and not readings. Which makes them ineligible under the current rules - they do read most of the narration but they do edit the dialogs. We won't record a performance of Hamlet either - straight readings are eligible, dramatizations are out. So when you see this publisher, check on their site what exactly they did produce this time around). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:48, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:I see. Will watch out for this in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:37, 22 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Missing prices ==<br />
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Missing information for audio CD's and audio MP3 CD's published by [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?59896 Audible Studios on Brilliance Audio] can be found [https://www.brilliancepublishing.com/ here]. I added the missing prices for all the ones I reviewed yesterday. Looks like there are more in the queue. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:08, 23 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:Nice source! Thanks! I'll fix the other submissions once they are approved. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 10:37, 24 December 2022 (EST)<br />
:: All approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:11, 24 December 2022 (EST)<br />
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== Lost Dreams ==<br />
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Phil, I approved [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5541717 this submission] before I realized it created a duplicate publication. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930380 Here] is the existing publication. I have deleted your publication. Just add your notes and primary verification to the existing publication. Notice [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_Talk:Anniemod Annie] set it up as a serial installment of the novel [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3129077 Last Stand]. Let me know if you this isn't clear. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:30, 15 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Bitten ==<br />
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Phil, Regarding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?33238 Bitten]. What's up with some of these audiobooks? Two sets of audio cassettes on the same day (2001-10-01)? Two sets of audio CDs on the same day (2010-07-27)? Seems odd, did you do any further digging? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 20:46, 19 January 2023 (EST)<br />
:In the case of the cassettes, one is a regular edition and the other is a Library edition. I'll add that to the notes of the Library edition. As to the audio CDs, they have different ISBNs and there are separate WorldCat entries for them. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:25, 19 January 2023 (EST)<br />
::Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:06, 20 January 2023 (EST)<br />
::: Pretty standard with US audiobooks due to how licensing works (or something along these line...) :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:13, 20 January 2023 (EST)<br />
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== All the Weyrs of Pern ==<br />
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How much confidence do you have in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933698 this price]? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 13:56, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Pretty strong given that it's a library edition. It's not outside the value range several other library audio CD editions have. Of course I could be wrong... [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:23, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:: Thanks, I don't know why it jumped out at me. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:00, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall ==<br />
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I removed Jan 1 from the date for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933718 The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall] and several other pubs. On pubs which predate Amazon, the date is unreliable. There's no telling where they get them from, Jan 1st is their default month and day. For your clones, I used WorldCat to confirm the year. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:50, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Good to know. I'll check WorldCat for those who predate 1998 in the future. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:28, 3 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Wizard of Karres ==<br />
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[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5573314 This submission] appears to create a duplicate. What am I missing? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:35, 5 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:My bad. It looks like I accidently submitted it twice. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 19:05, 5 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::It also looks like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?933872 this record] is a duplicate pub and should be deleted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:59, 5 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::: I agree, go ahead. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:02, 6 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Rides a Dread Legion ==<br />
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I made minor changes to contents of Rides a Dread Legion https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274016 if you have no objection. <br />
Page number for first page of novel<br />
Added entry for map on bep<br />
Note re Acknowledgments on unnumbered roman numeral page.<br />
Thanks. <br />
[[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 00:53, 10 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Sounds fine. Go ahead. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Charles de Lint / Moonheart: A Romance ==<br />
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Posted on the Talk pages of active PVs GlennMcG, Philfreund.<br />
<br>I'm looking at my copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22754 Moonheart: A Romance] and the pub record. This doesn't seem to be set up correctly. It should be unmerged, assigned to a title record of "Moonheart: A Romance" and this should be varianted to "Moonheart". Actually, there is a case for making "Moonheart: A Romance" the canonical title as it's the first publication. However, as there is only 1 pub titled "Moonheart: A Romance" and 16 pubs titled "Moonheart", I don't feel strongly about which is the canonical title. Mind you, I would bet that some of the other pubs also have "A Romance" on the title page, particularly the Ace pb reprints. What are your thoughts? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:49, 13 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:You are probably right that this should be the canonical title and the others unmerged into a variant. I've noticed a few other titles that seem to have the same situation. I also agree that the other Ace printings are likely listed incorrectly without "A Romance". It might be interesting to ask the PV of the 1985 second printing to recheck his copy. I just took a quick look at the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431784 2013 Smashwords edition] and it has "A Romance" on the title page so the PV there missed it. The audiobook and the CDs definitely do not have "A Romance" associated with them. I'd be fine with you doing the unmerge/variant if you would like to. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:27, 13 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::I will ask AliHarlow about the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444733 Ace pb 2nd print]. I also have the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22753 UK Pan tp] which I have recently PVd and that does not have "A Romance" on the title page. Like you, I have also come across other titles that have this problem. Based on your and [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:GlennMcG#Charles_de_Lint_.2F_Moonheart:_A_Romance GlennMcG's] replies, I will do the varianting but first I will stick a post on the Moderator Noticeboard to ask which should be the canonical title as it's rather subjective. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:42, 14 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== The Diamond Conspiracy ==<br />
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Phil, please find the ASIN for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5584033 this one]. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:43, 17 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Sorry. That one slipped past me. Cancelled and resubmitted with the ASIN [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5585376 here]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:32, 17 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Ware Hawk ==<br />
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Regarding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?225901 this]. Publisher is "An Argo Book / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum.Books" as it states "A Margaret K. McElderry Book" on title page and front flap of dustwrapper and "An Argo Book" on copyright page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:20, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Hmmm. There are only 4 pubs using the publisher "An Argo Book / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum.Books". I'm guessing that it should be publisher "An Argo Book / Atheneum" with the Publication Series being "A Margaret K. McElderry Book". What does Chavey say since he is the original PV? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 18:26, 21 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::His books are in storage so I did not message him. I checked the details from the copy I recently acquired. My copy has "A Margaret K. McElderry Book" on title page and front flap of dustwrapper as well as on copyright page underneath this is "An Argo Book" (Argo logo on spine) - hence why I wanted to check if your copy had the same informaton. "An Argo Book / Margaret K. McElderry / Atheneum Books" is one of the publishers listed under "Atheneum"- I'll open a discussion on the Moderator page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:41, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::My copy matches yours but also has the Argo logo block on the title page. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:40, 23 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Publisher check: Keeper of Enchanted Rooms ==<br />
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Do you still have access to your verified [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?914121 Keeper of Enchanted Rooms]? The copy I have shows 47North as the publisher - which is a bit more logical than Brilliance Audio (they did all the audio versions). Any objections to me fixing the publisher? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 22:44, 24 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Please change it to 47North. I entered it wrong. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 06:35, 25 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:: Done. I’ll be verifying it when I get to that book. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 23:37, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Peace Talks ==<br />
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I have put [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5591905 your submission] on hold as I notice the record you've added has the same ISBN and same Audible-ASIN as [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?891064 this one] (apart from the publisher and price, that is). Do you know what's going here? Shouldn't these be the same publication? [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 03:40, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:Looks like this was a simultaneous release in the US and UK. Since the hardcover was the US release, I think the US was the primary release site so I should change the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?891064 exisiting record] values to the values in the submission for the cover, publisher, and price as well as adding notes for the UK price and publisher. I'll cancel the submission after I submit that edit. Does that seem right? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:02, 27 February 2023 (EST)<br />
::To be honest, I'm at a loss as to what's going on here. I can find references to both versions on Amazon.com, Audible.com (with two different prices...) and Goodreads only. Audible.co.uk has the Hachette Audio UK version. Maybe ask some other moderators who are more familiar with audiobooks for advice? [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 06:58, 28 February 2023 (EST)<br />
:::Figured it out. See discussion [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Peace_Talks_audiobook_conundrum here]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:23, 1 March 2023 (EST)<br />
::::What a mess ... :-) Thanks for digging into this. Now approved. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 04:46, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Roman Holiday ==<br />
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Hello Phil, <br />
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A little trick with Audible books like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?938186 this one]. A list price of $2.17 tells you that this is not priced for the US market but is a conversion (and this exact value is a £1.99 conversion for an Audible). So head to Amazon.co.uk and find the same audiobook (search by title and author - unlike ebooks, it will have a separate ASIN so we need to record both but it will give you a list price). In this case, as Jodi Taylor's books are published first in UK, that also makes sense. I updated this one. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:41, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:Got it. I know to do that with regular books/ebooks and should have realized it applied to the audiobooks as well. The list prices for audiobooks are so scattered and seemingly random that it just didn't catch my eye. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:45, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
:: You get used to them - there are a few publishers that use weird prices in Audible even when they are US editions (for some of them, hitting their publisher page may actually give you a real list price - sometimes I remember to do that, sometimes I just record the Amazon/Audible list price and as we have notes on the sources, they are technically correct). But $2.17 had stayed with me both from ebooks and from audiobooks as it is usually the £1.99 across the pond. So I go check and figured I should stop by and share. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 16:02, 2 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Anomalous cover for ebooks ==<br />
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Looking at these two titles, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2751327] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2829761]), you'll notice that the publication date of the ebooks you've recently added are identical to the tp edition, yet the cover of said recently added ebooks is completely different (corresponds, in fact, with a recent re-issue). Look at the Goodreads editions for a more accurate edition history. For example, you'll notice that the [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55949187-raven-s-course 2020 Kindle edition] of {{t|2829761|Raven's Course}} has a different cover compared to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5597718 your addition]. In fact, there's [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62321459-raven-s-course a second, 2022 Goodreads record] with the blue cover, with a publication date of 2022-01-00. The better course of action if you come across such an 'Amazon anomaly' (Amazon tends to update the cover art with a re-issue, but keeps the first publication date), is to check Goodreads, and go with that. In other words, better to update the cover of your two ebook additions with the Goodreads one. Thanks, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 15:44, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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Same for {{t|526757|The Last Wish}}; comparing the 2015 audio editions you entered, looks suspiciously like cover was updated with the [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60617128-the-last-wish 2022 re-issue]. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 15:56, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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:Submissions for all three covers are submitted (plus the Goodreads ID was added). I didn't realize that Goodreads also kept the info for the audio editions. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 17:21, 3 March 2023 (EST)<br />
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== Japanese Crisis Title ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5612864; While adding Archive.org links to both editions of Crisis I noticed this Japanese title was missing the mark over the letter so I cut-and-pasted the 1 instance of the correct title on ISFDB from some completely unrelated work. There are other questions like whether cover artist from original should be imported to reprint as a co-artist because most of the art is the same, which page count is correct since the last page, "afterword", has no page number, how date of reprint was derived since no 2004 date is on the copyright page (maybe the last page with "Coming August 2004") and whether a note should be entered saying where date came from, whether all stories are original and should have the month (02) added to them, etc. Maybe someone will look into these things if they want to. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:59, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks but I can't even look into this until my paperbacks are out of storage which will be at least another 6 months. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:09, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Yeah, I know, you and a whole lot of other people who say the same thing on here. Maybe someone who owns a copy or is in some way familiar with these books will read this and be able to help fix stuff or add new stuff. The unnumbered last page is minor because there's thousands on here where they were either added to the page count with no note, added with a note saying they're unnumbered (I've done very many of those), added to page count in brackets, not added at all, etc., just however the individual editor felt like doing it. Date of reprint edition is minor because there's thousands of books where an editor added a date not in the book without saying in any way where they got it from. Months added to stories is minor because there's thousands of stories which never got the book's month added to them. The only thing that I can see being of interest is that cover art, because while different artists are on the copyright page in each edition the reprint cover art uses the same art from the original with some new bits underneath, so the original artist should definitely be a co-artist in the reprint. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:31, 17 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The River's Gift ==<br />
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5609709 this submission]. A novel, really? I suggest doing a little research and fixing the existing title first. Then create the ebook. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:37, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Wow. Did I blow this or what? So do I just change the existing title into a Shortfiction novella, then create a new empty Chapbook with no pub detail, then import the novella into the Chapbook? Any other steps before creating the ebook? I'll also cancel and redo [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5609712 this submission] as part of the fix. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:34, 20 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: Edit the current book we have, change the pub type to chapbook, the novel title to a short fiction and add a chapbook. That’s all that is needed when there is a single publication with the title. Then you can clone from the result post approval. <br />
:: If there were more publications, you change the novel to a story. Once approved, edit every publication to change its pub type and to add a chapbook. Then you merge the resulting chapbooks (you cannot import a chapbook while the pub type is a novel and you won’t be able to make these chapbooks until the novel is out and cannot save a chapbook pub without a chapbook title - thus the need for a merge in these cases). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 02:12, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::Submitted [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615539 this]. Hope it is correct. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:12, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::: Approved. Now you can clone the corrected publication to create the ebook. Don't forget to cancel the original [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5609709 submission]. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:03, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::Original cancelled. New clone submission [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5615577 here] [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:18, 21 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::::: I obtained a copy of the hc to verify the length. My count is approximately 19,600, primarily because there are no illustrations or chapter divisions. Thought you might be interested. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:41, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== More Than Honor audio MP3 CD ==<br />
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Looks like Amazon has the wrong date for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5617504 this one]. Brilliance publishing says the date is 5-21-2013 for 978-1-4915-7626-7 MP3-CD. I'm guessing you saw this as you have the correct $9.99 price which is not what Amazon shows. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 15:37, 25 March 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Your submission is absolutely correct. I'm not sure what I was looking at. It's approved now. Sorry. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:06, 14 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Thieves' World Collection Volume Two ==<br />
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In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5648430 this submission], you stated you were removing the essays but didn't stay ''why''. You aren't a PV of the ebook, so how do you know the essays aren't in it? Please clarify this. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:34, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I used the Amazon Look Inside feature and the essays aren't there. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:54, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Okay, thanks! Please include information like that in your future moderator notes. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:48, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Murder of Crows ==<br />
In [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5648434 this submission], you stated you were removing the essay but didn't stay ''why''. You aren't a PV of the audiobook, so how do you know the essay isn't in it? Please clarify this. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:39, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:True, but how likely is it that an audiobook includes a Glossary? The Glossary essay only showed up because I cloned. If I had simply done a new pub, I wouldn't have known to include it so there wouldn't be a question. If it's actually there, a PV can add it. If you want to reject this submission, I understand. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 14:10, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:::I've had audiobooks that included them, so that's why I asked. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:47, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: One little trick I use - when you clone like that, set the page numbers of the materials you will be removing to "del" or "remove" or "--" or something like that in the clone -- you cannot remove them on the clone directly but you can set page numbers. That way it will be clear that they are supposed to be out once approved (a moderator may decide to help you and remove them on approval or just let you do the follow up but it reduces the confusion usually). Plus even if you forget to follow up, someone may find them and clear them up. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:32, 28 April 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Gaiman and Doran's Chivalry ==<br />
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Hi, I recently added this year's Locus Award finalists, of which [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3169089 this title was one], which you've PVed, and it it looks like you added other pubs for as well.<br />
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I had [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus an exchange with Ahasuerus yesterday] about how the site renders the award for art titles, and he mentioned that he didn't think this graphic novel was correctly entered. I'm not familiar with the intricacies of that type of title/pub, and I definitely don't want to go messing around with someone else's PV, so I'll have to refer you to his comments. Thanks. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 08:15, 14 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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:On reflection, I think I should have had both Gaiman and Doran as the authors. I've added a note to your discussion with Ahasuerus to make sure I know how to make the change correctly. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:42, 14 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== New Frontiers: A Collection of Tales About the Past, the Present, and the Future ==<br />
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Hi Phil, It would have been worth the effort to add pipes to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468985 this publication], correcting the sort order before cloning it four times. Now you need to edit all five publication records. Also, run the duplicate checker, on any one of the pubs, and merge or disambiguate as necessary. P.S. I know you didn't create the duplicates, just want you do get used to checking those things since I will be supporting your application for self-approver. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:50, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Well drat! I'll do that but I'm going to wait a bit to see if my self-approver request goes through. I already have a lot of submissions in the queue so no point in making it longer if I can hold off a bit to get better throughput. :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 18:27, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Realized that waiting was a bad idea. Submitted 5 resequencings and 4 merges. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:17, 1 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Glynn Stewart excerpts ==<br />
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For your to do list. Remember to add descriptions in the post merge title records. This will help us determine if future appearances should be merged or disambiguated. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:59, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Yep. I have to compare the instances of each of the titles to see if they are unique. I'm suspecting there's a lot of duplication. I assume I should also move them under the appropriate series as well. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:52, 30 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:: Yes, add the appropriate series. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:41, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Knighthood of the Dragon ==<br />
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What is the source of the price [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953365 here]? I see $6.99 in Amazon. If it comes from elsewhere (Kobo USA (great source for ISBNs for ebooks and audiobooks - just make sure it is not a publisher which uses different ISBNs for kindle vs ePub books), the publisher site or something else), we need a note on the source. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:07, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:My bad. It looks like I forgot to change the price from the clone source. Fix submitted. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:49, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Free to Good Home ==<br />
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A small trick: when you clone line [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5676896 here] and the book you are cloning from is a singleton (so each story is in only one book), you can do EditPub before the clone, change all dates in the single EditPub (including the cover if needed). Then you do not need to update each title one by one. As a rule, before cloning, check the book(s) we have, clean them up (order, pages, dates and so on, adding a moderator note on why you are changing the date if you are changing dates on titles) and then clone. Otherwise you need to do a lot more work later :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:15, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Nice technique. I'll gladly use it. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:54, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Co-authors ==<br />
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Careful when adding books with more than one author - you missed Don Goodman [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953384 here] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953383 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:33, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I'll be sure to watch that when I create chapbooks that go with an existing shortfiction title. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:51, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Import vs. Merge ==<br />
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When you are working on chapbooks, it may be better off to add the story and then merge than leave the import for later. It is still a single operation but in the meantime, the chapbook is incomplete. That's different from collections and anthologies who stand on their own but chapbooks exist for their short fiction/poem. You don't really win much by not adding and then merging (if anything, if you are adding multiple chapbooks formats, a single merge will get the stories back together as opposed to import per book). Either way works but not adding the story may end up with forgetting to add it later - and someone will need to clean after that. My policy in such things is to use the way that leaves the DB records as unproblematic as possible in between steps. Then even if I am pulled away in the middle of an edit, it may be wrong but it won't be very wrong. ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:40, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Added bonus: you don't need to faffle with the dates because the merge will take care of that. So in cases where you are adding earlied chapbooks, it is actually more efficient to add the story during the book adding and then merge than to re-date and then import ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:42, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::So far I've been pretty careful to go back but I can see how easy it would be to miss one. I'll do it that way from now on. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:59, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
::: We all are - but things happen. Plus that way you do not end up with someone undoing the date change if you are late in adding the story. If New/Import is easier for you than New/Merge, that still works -- I was just sharing some personal advice on what seems to behave a bit better for me.:) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:04, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Outcast ==<br />
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Two things about [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?953425 this one]:<br />
* If you are using a UK price, you need a UK source. Amazon UK is not a mirror of Amazon.com, they can be very very different. So if you use the price from Amazon UK, you add Amazon UK as a source and not Amazon.com (or both if that makes sense like here)<br />
* Always use | numbers to order the titles in a e-book when there are introductions, post-novel essays and excerpts. I know that on NewPub you cannot add a page to the novel itself so this is always a second step so this is more of a heads up :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:55, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Dafydd ab Hugh books ==<br />
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I added ISBNs to the ebooks you added. Kobo ( https://www.kobo.com/us/en ) is a good source for ISBNs for US books; https://www.kobo.com/gb/en for UK books (I usually refer to them as Kobo USA and Kobo UK respectively in notes). Both of them also carry audiobooks and sometimes can give you ISBNs for ones that Audible uses a B-ASIN for. Outside of a few children's publishers and very few others, publishers use eISBN for all their ebook formats (a thing that does not exist in theory but is there in practice). When Amazon still carried and showed ISBNs for ebooks, the two usually carried the same ISBN on the same book . Kobo can even give you a hint for a list price sometimes when Amazon is being obstinate. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:18, 31 May 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Wiz of Tiz ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?55128; January 1990, not January 1989, according to Archive.org copy's copyright page. EDIT: The title and cover art title are also wrong, there's no "The", and I may be wrong but that excerpt page number doesn't look right. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:38, 2 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:I'll put it on my list of items to check when I can get to my copy of the book. Currently, all my paperbacks are in boxes from my interstate move and won't be unpacked until my new bookshelves are built. The rough ETA for that is the end of July. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:04, 2 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Self-approver status ==<br />
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You are now a self-approver. Congratulations! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 10:02, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
: Welcome to the dark side. Uhm, I mean... :) Don't hesitate to reach out and ask if you need any help -- and have fun. (Cue checking the same edit 10 times now that you realize the second set of eyes is gone). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 12:32, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks. I'm sure I will be reaching out... and checking even more. Now to clear my own backlog... :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 12:36, 5 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Zelazny - Blood of Amber ==<br />
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Hello Phil, adding Reg3 ID# to your PV'd {{P|4938|pub here}}. As I'm adding a lot of Reg3 ID#s, could you let me know if you still want to be notified every time I make those simple edits? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:45, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks for asking but I don't need the notices. Frankly, I only notify people for substantive changes. For External IDs, covers, and spelling corrections, I assume people are watching their "My Verifications > My Recently Changed Primary Verifications" when they show a New status. That's what I do. YMMV :) [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:59, 8 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Tales of the Witch World 3 ==<br />
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For {{P|34398|Tales of the Witch World 3}}: Would you please check the author credits for page 216 & 231? Per the Internet Archive of the pb, the author is credited as Karen E. Rigley on the story TOC and the Afterword signature. Did the hc truly use Karen Rigley are is this a database typo? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:49, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:It is indeed a typo that I missed seeing before I PVed. It is Karen E. Rigley in the ToC, on page 216, and page 231. I fixed the entries in record. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 22:17, 9 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== Alexandre R. ==<br />
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=alexandre+ri&type=Name; Rio should probably be made a variant of Rito. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:55, 15 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
:Thanks. I'm checking with the author. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 13:10, 15 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::Confirmed and fixed. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:51, 16 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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::: Don't forget to make [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?364935 Alexandre Rio] an alternative name for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?271999 Alexandre Rito]. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:06, 16 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
::::Done. I thought I had done that but apparently missed it. Thanks for catching this. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 09:11, 16 June 2023 (EDT)<br />
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== The Music of the Spheres & Other Classic Science Fiction Stories ==<br />
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Re [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5707644 this edit]: I'll be changing the dates back. These are all variant titles, because Stuart J. Byrne is a variant of S. J. Byrne. Current rules state that variant titles are dated on the first publication of the variant, not the parent title. Please discuss things like this before making changes. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 13:39, 1 July 2023 (EDT)</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:RNNKLFDGSC1974.jpg&diff=666208
File:RNNKLFDGSC1974.jpg
2023-06-30T09:35:41Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=Ranonkel of de geschiedenis van een verzelving
|Edition=Van Gennep 1974 tp
|Pub=RNNKLFDGSC1974
|Publisher=Van Gennep
|Artist=Jacques Janssen
|ArtistId=169610
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=Ranonkel of de geschiedenis van een verzelving<br />
|Edition=Van Gennep 1974 tp<br />
|Pub=RNNKLFDGSC1974<br />
|Publisher=Van Gennep<br />
|Artist=Jacques Janssen<br />
|ArtistId=169610<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:DNSTRFLJKN1987.jpg&diff=666207
File:DNSTRFLJKN1987.jpg
2023-06-30T09:10:28Z
<p>Willem H.: {{CID1
|Title=De onsterfelijken
|Edition=Nijgh & Van Ditmar 1987 tp
|Pub=DNSTRFLJKN1987
|Publisher=Nijgh & Van Ditmar
|Artist=Joseph M. W. Turner
|ArtistId=365876
|Source=Scanned by User:Willem H.}}</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
{{CID1<br />
|Title=De onsterfelijken<br />
|Edition=Nijgh & Van Ditmar 1987 tp<br />
|Pub=DNSTRFLJKN1987<br />
|Publisher=Nijgh & Van Ditmar<br />
|Artist=Joseph M. W. Turner<br />
|ArtistId=365876<br />
|Source=Scanned by [[User:Willem H.]]}}</div>
Willem H.