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<div>{{welcome}} [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 14:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover image file uploads ==<br />
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I had to remove the link to the image you uploaded for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427917 this publication], and delete it from the database. I will reupload it using the proper method. In the future, when adding a cover image file to the server, you must use the "Upload cover scan" link from the publication record. (At the time the file was uploaded, the publication record had not been created. So you have to wait until a moderator accepts the submission to add the record to the database before uploading the cover image from the record.) Do not use the "Upload file" link on the Wiki pages (that is reserved for files other than cover images). <br />
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Also, I'll have to delete [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:TRPCCLFPMS1966.jpg this file] (inscription from the Brunner poetry collection) because it is not the cover of the book. Please use the "Upload cover scan" function to only upload cover images. Thanks for contributing. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:It is the "cover" of the book as such... The collection was published privately by the author a set of duplicated pages with a stapled plain brown paper cover. The copy I have (obtained from Curry some years back) has an inscription written across the front by the author. The image is of the "front" of the publication - I grant that an unsigned one would be just plain brown page, but that's how it was published? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:20, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Did every copy of the publication have this same "cover", i.e. did they have the same inscription and signature? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:33, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Frankly, I don't think anyone knows, that collection was a private publication in small quantity and was, I understand largely sent by Brunner to friends etc - it is likely he wrote on most/all of them. My copy has "Don" included as JB sent the copy to Donald A Wollheim. I would assume other copies had different names on them! Perhaps if I just put a publication note explaining that rather than a cover picture? {{unsigned|Prof beard}}<br />
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:I'll add a link from the publication record to the image, but will add a note of explanation. (A tip: When linking an image to a pub record, you must use the complete URL and not just the file name. Also, don't forget to sign each of your wiki posts.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks! Thanks also for your patience - I'm very IT savvy, but unfamiliar with the conventions of this wiki (my experience is limited to a few small WIkipedia entries) - I'll get there in the end [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:45, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, wiki is a whole different language! And I've no doubt you'll catch on easily. You've found the wiki the first day of your account. Sometimes that has taken weeks (and even never) for some users! Thanks for contributing. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I've linked the cover and updated [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?TRPCCLFPMS1966 the publication record] for Brunner's poetry collection. If the pages on which the poems appear are numbered, please add them to the record's content section. If not, you can number the poems in the order in which they appear in the publication, but add a note that you're making that exception to the page numbering standard. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Clarke's ''Four Great SF Novels'' ==<br />
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Submission adding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427974 this record] accepted. A tip: using the Clone function of the original record would have resulted in the transfer of all of the content titles as well. Now that the new record is created, you can add the contents using the Import function. This avoids entering new content titles that will have to be merged with the existing titles. Ask if you need help. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 14:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for the clone tip, I think I've imported successfully... [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Yes, it was fine and submission was accepted. A question: how certain are you that the BCA edition has different pagination from Gollancz's trade edition. I just checked the OCLC record for the Gollancz edition and it has the same page count, so I assume the pagination is also the same.<br />
::Another Wiki mark-up tip: adding a colon at the start of the message indents it from the previous one, make it easier to follow the discussion. Keep adding a colon for each subsequent post. Look at the raw data to see how it's entered. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::My version has the number of pages I indicated which differs from the entry in ISFDB for the Gollanz version - I couldn't verify the Gollanz entry was wrong, so commented as I did as the contents are listed as the same.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Since I just corrected the ISFDB record's page count field, based on the OCLC record, the note about the different pagination of the BCA edition should be removed. It can't be determined that the pagination is truly different until someone does a primary verification of the Gollancz edition. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Sounds right, ok will do [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Brunner's ''The Man Who Was Secrett and Other Stories'' ==<br />
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I'm holding your submission to change the title of the introduction to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?410475 this collection]. We normally disambiguate generically-titled introductions by adding the title of work being introduced parenthetically. If the introduction is not generic and has an actual title, then that should be used as the title of the work without parentheses, unless parentheses are actually used in title! You changed it to "Introduction (The Man Who Wrote Marvels)". How is the introduction actually titled? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 14:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the clarification. It should be just "The Man Who Wrote Marvels" then. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Making changes to verified publication records ==<br />
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Hi, and welcome. Thank you for all of your recent contributions. One procedural policy item for you to be aware of: When you want to make a change that would affect a publication that has Primary verification(s), our policy is to notify the verifier(s) of the changes by leaving a message on the verifier's talk page or by following whatever directions that person may have posted at the top of the talk page. In general, you can submit additions in parallel with notifying the verifier that you have done so, but you should ask a verifier before altering any data that's already there. If you run into a situation where you're adding, but it looks like the verifier missed something that should have been seen, you might want to ask first.<br />
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So, for the cover addition to {{P|34273|Tales from the Forbidden Planet}}, you should have left a message for [[User_talk:Unapersson|Unapersson]]. For the artist credit addition to {{P|287216|It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Galaxy}}, you should have at least left [[User_talk:Biomassbob|Biomassbob]] a message, if not checked with him first. Since you didn't add any information about the source of the artist credit, I can't quite judge which would have been more appropriate.<br />
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This just something to keep in mind for future submissions. For these, I have left notices; I am holding the second one until Bob responds. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 13:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Understood and thanks for the advice [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 13:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: I've left Bob a note to explain that the artist credit came from the cover of my copy of the publication.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 13:36, 19 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Adjusting notes on primary verified records ==<br />
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If the price is present on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416527 this publication] you can remove the note that gives the source of the price. You can do this anytime you do a primary verification of a record. If any of the data fields are not present in the actual book, only then should the source be noted. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 13:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks and done[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 13:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover for ''The High Crusade'' ==<br />
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The cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?280646 this publication] is probably Peter Jones, based on your note that it is copyrighted as "Solar Wind". That's the name of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268439 a collection] of his artwork. I'll leave a note on the primary verifier's page to see if he can look at the cover and see if it's in the collection. (The cover was used after this collection, so the artwork in the book would have a different name.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 14:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Turns out that the cover isn't in the collection, BUT Solar Wind is Peter Jones' corporate name. Also, you can see Jones' signature (PAJ) in the center of the rock. You can update the record and credit Jones as the cover artist, and provide the evidence in the Note field. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:36, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Dark Light Years'' ==<br />
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You linked the incorrect image file to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?213013 this record]. (It was probably still in your memory from the previous submission.) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Oops! I'll sort it now [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Crash'' ==<br />
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Does [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?277170 this book] give a month publication as stated in the record? If not, you should have adjusted the note to say that the month of publication was from Locus #199 (February 1977), instead of removing the entire note. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Apologies I though I had done that - a slip of the finger - will correct[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:24, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::One other thing: when starting a new line in the Note field, you have to enter a hard HTML break <nowiki>(<br>)</nowiki>. Otherwise the sentence runs on from the previous one. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::BTW, did you miss the added note I made to the message above about the cover art for ''The High Crusade''. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Re Solar wind - Using my magnifying glass it actually says PAJ80 too so I'll update as you suggest[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:41, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Kinsman ==<br />
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Hello, I've approved your submission regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19575 this pub], but I'm puzzled by the cover artist credit to Moore as [http://www.chameleon-arts.com/colin-hay/jacketfolio.html this site] favors Hay as artist. Note that a later printing ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179933 this one]) has a cover clearly in Moore's style. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:My deepest apologies - I paid too much attention to the publication detail and not enough to the cover image! HOWEVER... My publication detail are as stated in terms of year and price etc BUT the image is actual the same as the later one you link too. Makes me think the cover and artist attribution for this edition may be wrong? Would I change these or record this as a different edition? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::It's likely that the image was linked to amazon without the physical copy of the book (cover scan from amazon are sometimes not the correct ones when multiple printings exist). Just upload your own scan or use the later one (if similar). Thanks for your reply. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::will do - thanks. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bradbury's ''Timeless Stories'' ==<br />
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Can you confirm the catalog number given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180161 this record]? It's 12 digits so it can't be an ISBN, and Bantam didn't start using ISBNs until 1976. At this time, Bantam had a letter (or two) and four numbers in their catalog number, and it was printed on the front cover. The number you gave may have been a precursor to the ISBN that includes the publisher code assigned to Bantam: "553", which usually appears on the spine. In the case of this publisher, it's best to follow the pattern used by other Bantam books for 1972, and enter the front cover catalog number in the ISBN/Catalog # field (starting with the "#" symbol per ISFDB standards), and entering the spine number in the Note field. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes it's the number on the spine - I did wonder about the length - I added the front 0- myself and thought it couldnt be right. The front cover catalog number is creased and looks like it is NP8102 but I'd like to check it - do you know a source?[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 22:55, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: it's NP 8162 - found a copy for sale on a reputable website which confirmed that[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 23:02, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Submission accepted. But if you look at the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180161 record], you'll see the notes are all in one sentence regardless of how you entered it in the submission. As I explained above, if you want to start a new line, you must enter an HTML break. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Formatting notes ==<br />
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I noticed you have been doing some note re-formatting. If you're interested in some of the basic "complex" formatting you can do, see [[Help:Using_HTML_in_Note_Fields|Using HTML in Note Fields]]. You're under no obligation whatsoever to use anything listed there; I'm just mentioning it as an FYI. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks Marty, I know HTML, but was unsure what limited set worked here[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 14:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Discussions with other editors ==<br />
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When leaving a message for other editors be sure to post it on their talk pages and not their user pages. Click on the "Discussion" tab on their user page first, then click on the "+" tab to start a new topic. I'll live the two messages you posted [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User:Dragoondelight here] until you've had a chance to see them. Then I'll move them to the editor's talk page. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for that - a mistake, I should have spotted this[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Flow My Tears...'' cover art credit ==<br />
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Can you confirm the artist is credited as "Clifton-Day" and not "Clifton-Dey" in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230489 this publication]? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Well spotted - that will teach me to do these things in brighter light :) - have submitted a correction[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Incorrect content title ==<br />
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Your update mentions that one of the stories in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230949 this publication] has a different title on its title page. In that case, you need to remove it and replace it with the correct title. Do you know how to do this? If not, I can walk you through it. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I'd appreciate guidance on this - I realised it needed doing but couldn't do it when importing the content. Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I note that Stand-By (the title used in this publication) is already listed as a variant to Top Stand-By Job. - don't know if this is important in terms of process? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::All records must be entered based on the publication as published. If the story is title "Stand-By" in the book, then the record must reflect that. If that's the case, here's what you should do:<br />
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::#Go to the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230949 publication record] and click on the link "Remove Titles from This Pub". <br />
::#On the next page, check the box(es) of the story(ies) you want to remove. Submit.<br />
::#Go back to the publication record and click on the link "Edit This Pub".<br />
::#On the next page, go to the bottom of the CONTENTS section and click "Add Title"<br />
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::This will create a new title record, which will have to be merged with any that may already exist in the database. In this case, there is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?95236 one]. You can make the submission to merge the titles after the previous submissions have been made and approved by a moderator. Or I can do that for you. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I've done steps 1 to 5 - I'd like to merge the title myself - I assume I select the title in the publication listing and select another command - can you confirm which command to use - I'm assuming I provide the title number it is to be merged with[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Titles and publications are different animals. In this case, you want to merge identical titles. Go to the author page for {{A|Philip K. Dick}} and click the link "Check for Duplicate Titles". You'll get a list of matching titles on the next page. Look for "Stand-By" and check the boxes of the two (sometimes more) titles which you want to merge. On the next screen you have to reconcile any differences between the two records. In this case, choose to keep the variant (this is not the canonical title of the work), and submit. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:16, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::thanks! I think I'm beginning to get my head around this, I understand the structuring better than the language used - I'm an academic in an IT field and not a librarian :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::I wish there were a better way of explaining the structure than with words! After a while and more submissions under your belt, you'll pick up on the concepts more than can be explained in the Help documentation. Something to keep in mind: title records represent the author's work, while publication records represent the presentation by the publisher, i.e. the physical object, or in the case of ebooks, the electronic file. An author's work has a single title record (unless its title is changed, requiring a variant title record), but it can be published dozens of time, with time represented in the database by a unique publication record. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:30, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::very helpfully explained and it matches the concept I had formed! I'm confident I'll pick it up, just bear with me, your help is very much appreciated... Perhaps a glossary explaining how terms like canonical, variant, pseudonym etc relate to the structure would help? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Men from P.I.G.'' ==<br />
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Your note in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429391 this record] states it was reprinted in 1982, yet you gave the publication date as 1983. Is one of the dates incorrect? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for spotting that - correction inbound... [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 21:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== One Step from Earth ==<br />
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Hello, one source [http://bearalley.blogspot.fr/2012/08/harry-harrison-1925-2012.html here] credites David Bergen as artist for the 1975 Arrow pbk. Does it seem likely to you (note for example the similarity with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?126121 this other Harrison/Arrow title]) ? [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:10, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Well that is certainly the cover on my copy - I'm no cover artist expert but it does look like Bergen from my limited exposure[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:15, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I've uploaded the scan and modified notes accordingly. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== The Green Hills of Earth ==<br />
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Hello, I've put your sub for the 1956 Pan printing on hold. Perhaps are you thinking about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?378696 this one]. Note that it's likely (as it's not PVed) that the author's name is wrongly entered (as per your submission). If it's the same book, you'll have some different steps to take (PV the book, change its author, unmerge the title from the RAH-credited ones, merge it with the RH-credited ones). If you want some guidance, feel free to ask. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:35, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yep that's the one - I'll cancel my other submission - and that is indeed how the author appears on the cover. If you could give me the steps needed to do the unmerging and merging I'd be grateful. I'm very IT literate (I'm a UK Emeritus Professor in an IT/Internet field) but am unsure of the structure of things on here in terms of things like merging etc - I want to learn :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:41, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK, let's try : 1) go to the collection page [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?26689 here], 2) change author for the target publication [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263408 here], 3) go back to the collection page and choose (tick box) the publication to unmerge from rest via the "Unmerge Title" item in the "Editing Tools" section on the left, 4) go to the "Robert Heinlein" page [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?70121 here] where there should be only the unmerged publication, 5) choose the "view all titles by this pseudonym" display there should be two occurences of the collection (at the bottom of the page), 6) merge the two correspending items. Note that some of the stages will need to be moderated. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:08, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Keep in mind: we don't credit authorship based on covers or dustjackets (as you state above about the cover author). Only use the author as credited on the title page of the book, and nowhere else (unless there isn't a title page!) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Thanks very much both - I'll have a go at this later. Thanks for the reminder re cover author - it is RH on the title page too... (Reminder to self about being precise in wording of things)[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Question when I select merge the titles I get a screen showing title year conflict with 1967 and 1956 shown and 1967 selected, and a title parent conflict with the numbered option selected and the un-numbered one not selected. Are these the right options selected? What do they mean/refer to? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:00, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::: The first conflict is for the publication date => choose the earlier date, the second will keep the link (variant title) of the whole lot to the "canonical" (authored by RAH) collection so don't change it.[[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:08, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::(In response to the orginal question, after an edit conflict.) No. There are no "right" options chosen. It's arbitrarily buttoned (or for some interior logic of which I'm not aware.) That leaves it up to the editor to determine which one of the conflicting fields to choose. As for dates, 99% of the time, it's best to choose the earliest. But it's good to know that the earliest one is the correct one. If one of the records is a variant (meaning there is a parent record conflict), you should choose to keep the parent record, unless your research has shown that it should not be a variant. If the title and/or author field aren't matching, they probably shouldn't be merged unless your research has determined that one of them is incorrect and should be changed in the merge. In other words, it's entirely up to the editor to resolve the conflicts. If the choices are obviously wrong, it may be caught by the moderator. But, if you are not certain, don't make the submission. First, ask on the Help Desk page. Don't make the submission and expect the moderator to determine if it was correct. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::Thanks for advice and explanations both - really helpful - I like to understand what I'm doing and why :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:21, 5 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Have Space Suit - Will Travel'' author credit ==<br />
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A question about your proposed clone of ''Have Space Suit - Will Travel'' by Robert A. Heinlein, which I have on hold: I see the note that says "Cover and Spine as by 'Robert Heinlein'". Is that meant to imply the title page does use the "A."? Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Marty - yes title page is RAH, Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks. I added that to the note (and accepted the submission, of course!); if I wondered about it, someone else might. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:45, 6 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks Marty - I'm not yet sure what it is reasonable to imply and when being explicit is essential :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:47, 6 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Dune Cover Image ==<br />
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I had to reject to your edit to add a new cover image to this {{P|387410|Dune}}, as [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/7/73/WLLFRNVLVM1981.jpg the image] was of Heinlein's ''I Will Fear No Evil''. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:18, 6 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Sorry about that (had multiple tabs open) - correct one on its way[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Troglodytes'' ==<br />
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The date change for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297259 this record] was accepted, but I gave Tuck as the source. I also removed the source for the review in F&SF. Tuck gives the catalog number as "R587". Does the letter appear on your copy? Also, you were correct to suspect an earlier hardcover edition. I created a record using Tuck as the source. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks - this is starting to look a bit more sensible... No visible "R" on my copy, but the "R" seems to be the standard for Digit books of this period, so I think it is reasonable to accept it should be there[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:23, 9 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::No. If there is no "R" present on your copy, you should not include it in the Catalog # field. You can add a note that it isn't present although Tuck says it is. We try to record data as present in the publication, but will make corrections to obvious publisher errors (but note them). [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks, I'll add an appropriate note later. The cat no appears only on the spine, and as it it rubbed at the does a bit, it may be the "R" is lost, but I'll "tell it like it is"[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''SF Hall of Fame, Volume 1'' ==<br />
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Are you certain there is no ISBN stated anywhere in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429729 this publication]? By 1974, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisheryear.cgi?49+1974 Sphere] had started using ISBNs on all of their books. Sometimes they did not have dashes. Or perhaps your copy being a second printing, they may have forgot to add it. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:thanks for pointing this out - after a bit of a search, I found the ISBN - have edited the record accordingly [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== The Man-Kzin Wars ==<br />
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The ISBN in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429730 this record] has an extra digit. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:You are right, but that isn't the edition I verified... This is the one I edited and which you approved : http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?312118[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::And you're right. The message was meant for another editor who just made a submission cloning your pub but with a different ISBN. Just a coincidence that two editions of the same title popped up so close to each other. Sorry. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::no problem - we are all human :)[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== The Stars in Shroud ==<br />
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Added a cover scan to [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288621 this]] and a couple of 'non'-notes. --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 17:48, 14 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Bill - your "this" link just points to this page? ! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:41, 14 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: Oops! Corrected. --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 20:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::thanks! Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Ball in the Family'' ==<br />
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I think you meant the synopsis added to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1650443 this title] for the Note to Moderator field. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:23, 17 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:partly - I'll tidy it up - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 22:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope it was wholly, because such a note should not be part of the visible record. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I've created a variant of the title record - what do I do to make the author a pseudonym ?[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 22:07, 17 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Go to the pseudonym and click on "Make/Remove a Pseudonym" link under Editing Tools menu. On the next page enter the canonical name in the "Parent Name" field and submit.<br />
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::BTW, I fixed the capitalization of the title according to ISFDB standards. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Got it - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 22:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::Amazon actually have [http://www.amazon.com/Ball-Family-Ellis-Quick/dp/B001CL3AHG a cover image for this rarity]. It's not the best, and you may have a better one, so just lettin' ya know. PS. note the exclamation mark. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 01:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: That's is a totally different cover from the edition I have! Could it possibly be that it was printed more than once? Amazing[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== UK priced ed. of ''The Worm Ouroboros'' ==<br />
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I'm holding your submission to add a new record for the August 1970 printing of this title. It appears to be identical to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258172 this record], except for the UK pricing. Is there any mention of a printing, distribution, publication, etc by a UK publisher? Is the US price "overprinted" by the UK price? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:My copy is a fully UK priced edition - no overprinting or US price. My copy is also printed in Canada not the USA. I did wonder about about this one but it does see to be be a distinct printing. The information on the copyright page is contradictory though as it says printed in Canada but does not give the later date for that printing... [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:28, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Is the publisher given as Ballantine Books, New York? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Yes. But as I said the back cover has UK, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa prices and has "printed in Canada" on the copyright page. Happy to go with what you think best? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:59, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::One last question before approval: is the ISBN stated or derived? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::it has 345-02001-4 on the back cover, so an SBN rather than an ISBN ? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::If the ISBN is derived from an SBN, it should be noted (giving the location which is normally on the copyright page as well.) I'll accept the submission and ask that you add further notes, giving the various prices, the ISBN, etc. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:21, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Ok will do - the derived ISBN came across with the cloning, so I left it as was. Would normally mention it. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:25, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::The cloning function allows you to create the new publication record and change any field that doesn't match, including adding/amending notes. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::: I realise that, and normally changes things - in this case I was "slothful" over the ISBN - will be more vigilant :). [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:48, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''A Voyage to Arcturus'' ==<br />
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If [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430391 this] was published by Ballantine Books, London, the publisher should be given as "Ballantine Books (UK)". (That's why I asked above if the edition of ''The Worm Ourobouros'' was published by Ballantine Books, New York.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]<br />
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:ok - will correct, thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Lilith'' ==<br />
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I'm holding a submission to update [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?292462 this record], changing the date, removing the publication series, and adding a price. Are you certain you have the same edition/printing and mean to update it, or did you intend on cloning the current record to create a new one? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:13, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:the original record stated it was of the UK reprint of the US edition, which is what I've entered the details of. The original entry is based entirely on the WorldCat entry which is clearly deficient. It seemed to me that either I created a new record and edited the original to refer to the us version, or edited the original to be correct for the uk reprint - I chose the latter. Does that seem right? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:32, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::That's OK, I'll accept the submission. (I only questioned it because the changes were so drastic.) How is the publisher given in the book? And is there no mention of "Ballantine Adult Fantasy" at all? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::the publisher is Ballentine books Ltd with sales and distribution by Pan. No explicit mention of Ballentine Adult Fantasy except in an advertisement for "Other adult fantasy titles available from Ballantine Books". It's almost as if someone made a decision to expunge the series from the UK edition [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 21:21, 18 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Nebula #21 ==<br />
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Hello, I've approved your edit but you state in your notes that Brunner's story is in fact titled _Treason_. In this case, you should enter the short story under its correct title (in the usual three step approach : 1) add correctly-titled story, 2) remove "bad" titled item, 3) merge the new text with its canonical title (the longer one in this case). The interior art's title should also be changed. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:19, 22 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks - exactly the response I was hoping for! I was wondering how to deal with that... Will do it [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 14:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Importing a single work ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430649 this record]: It's better to just add the single content at the time the publication record is created and then merge it with the existing title once the submission is accepted. Two submissions. Importing a single title from a publication with several content records is going to require an additional submission to remove the unwanted title records. In the meantime, someone looking at any of those titles are going to think they're in the publication. And you increase the odds of forgetting to do the last submission, and then having a record filled with errors. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:59, 22 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks - I did wonder if that would be better - noted [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:01, 22 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover images of non-genre magazines ==<br />
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It is [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Entering_non-genre_magazines#Steps_to_take current ISFDB standard] to only link to covers of non-genre magazines which illustrate the spec-fic content. I've rejected the submission to add a cover image to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430649 this record]. Feel free to open a new discussion over the practice on the Rules 7 Standards page. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks - I must confess I hadn't picked up on this - that magazine is probably the only non-genre magazine I possess with sf content, so it probably won't impact on me again. I think I would be inclined to have covers regardless of cover story myself, on the grounds it would aid collectors searching for a magazine containing a particular sf story. I might put this view forward this as you suggest, but I don't feel strongly about it to be honest [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Science Fantasy, v 6 #17, 1956'' ==<br />
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Just a note that after approving your changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?60245 ''Science Fantasy, v 6 #17, 1956''] I changed Quinn's "To Touch the Stars" (p. 110) from SHORTFICTION to INTERIORART and added "[2]" to the title. Hopefully it matches your intent :) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 03:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:thanks - I realised I'd slipped up as I clicked "submit" and was going to correct it today [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Venture 1964-01 ==<br />
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Hello, I've approved your submission [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431023 result here with change from Edotor to Editor] but please check if your copy is not the same as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351374 this other one]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:38, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! That's really weird - I searched and searched for that and couldn't find it. Now when I search it pops up first try! Yes it is the same - I'll delete mine [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:45, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "Nightmare with Zeppelins" ==<br />
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I had merged the two versions of "Nightmare with Zeppelins", which made your latest submission unapprovable because the 1960-01-00 version of the title no longer existed. Could you please double check that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431027 ''Galaxy Science Fiction (UK), #77 January 1960''] still looks OK? [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 20:35, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Amazing Stories UK #1 ==<br />
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If the date (month and/or year) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431061 this issue] isn't given in the issue, it shouldn't be given in the title field. It's OK to give the date in the date field if you have a secondary source (as you noted). [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:30, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Same situation with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431062 this record], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431063 this record], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431026 this record]. If you can remember any more that may have been entered this way, please make the corrections. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:32, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for the advice - will take note and check as requested [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Volume numbering in title field ==<br />
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When entering the volume/issue data in a magazine's title field, please separate the volume from the issue number, e.g. "v1 #1" instead of "v1#1". Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Will do. Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "Based on" cover art ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375089 this record]: If a work of cover art has been "repainted" (this happens often with European and Canadian reprints of US periodicals), you should not credit the original artist in the Artist1 field, but record the information in the Note field. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! Noted[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vision of Tomorrow #6, March 1970 ==<br />
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In your sub (which I've put on hold), you propose to add a SHORTFICTION item titled _Full-Five_ by Eddie Jones, can you confirm ? (It will be the first piece of fiction by this artist). Thanks [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:59, 30 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Sorry - should be interior art or course :) If you approve the sub, I'll edit it straight away[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:21, 30 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Done. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::edit submitted [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Something Else #2 ==<br />
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A few problems with the update to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431064 this record]. <br />
* The titles of generically-titled works, like editorials and columns (such as "Editorial" and "Short Reviews"), must be disambiguated by adding the name of the publication parenthetically. <br />
* The review of the work by Delany misspells his name. <br />
* Are the works by Ken Reid speculative fiction? (He's not in the database.)<br />
* Are the titles on pages 28 and 32 correctly entered?<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for reminding me - I did miss this. I've disambiguated the titles and corrected the typo and titles. (I obviously wasn't on form when I did those!) The "Fudge" works by Ken Reid appear to be juvenile speculative fiction, but may well be, in essence, graphical works. The review isn't the clearest! Happy to delete these if that's best.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::We don't delete them per se. A review of a work which is otherwise not eligible for the database (such as a nongenre work or graphic novel by a nongenre author, films recording, play, etc.) is entered as ESSAY. That would have to be this case because research has shown these are reprinted comic strips. One record of ESSAY type for both would be fine, titled "Review of the Fudge comic strips by Ken Reid", with an uncredited author. I'm still not sure about the pieces on pages 28 and 32, except that maybe your shifted "e" isn't working! :) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:15, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::I think those are sorted now - funny about the "E"s - can't explain that at all... Will delete the fudge review entries once this is approved[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:24, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Science Fiction Studies'', July 1976 ==<br />
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I'm holding your submission to add a record for this issue to the db. Are you certain it was published by Gregg Press (who published facsimile reprints for libraries)? According to most sources it was published by Indiana State University. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 03:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for this, on careful examination, I have misread the (considerable) text on the copyright page - you are right - it is Indiana State U (but there was a reference to Gregg press in a different context, which I mistakenly picked up as in was in a larger font!) I'll correct it if you approved the submission[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Brunner's 'The Economics of SF' ==<br />
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I've had to reject the edit to make a variant to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1082575 this essay]. The correct edit would be a Title Merge with the later appearance of the same essay, as there is no variation in the title (nor is it appearing in a different language). Go to Brunner's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11 bibliography page], then under Editing Tools click on 'Check for Duplicate Titles'. You'll see all possible candidates for merging and 'The Economics of SF' will be there. Click on both tick boxes for the title then 'Merge Selected Records'. When merging titles, it's ALWAYS worth checking if the merge is a correct edit by double-checking on both titles you're planning to merge. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 18:51, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:thanks for this - I had trouble find the right help for that process [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:52, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Numbering interiorart records ==<br />
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Only use the numbering system for titling INTERIORART records if they illustrate the same work (fiction or essay). The three pieces titled "Grumblings" in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431324 this record] do not seem to illustrate anything other than themselves. Or is there a record missing for a work which they illustrate? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:The Grumblings section is the letters section - I was unsure how this should be referenced - I recorded the major letters as indicated in the help, but was unclear how the whole section should be referenced - if you could guide me on that, I'll add it in as a another edit.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 23:05, 1 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Columns (like letter sections) can be given a content record titled "Name of Column (Title of the periodical including the date)". So in this case, create a content record titled "Grumblings (Yandro, #173 July 1967)" and giving "various" as the author, unless the column is credited to the editor(s) who provides responses to each of the letters. The illustrations should be titled exactly the same as the work they illustrate, i.e. the column, and there is no need to add a number unless the artist has a second, or third, etc piece in the same issue. That is not the case in this issue, since all three are by three different artists. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Yandro #173 ==<br />
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The review of the Ace Double by Jack Vance and Tony Russell Wayman in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431324 this record] should be entered as two separate reviews, unless the reviewer only mentions one of the titles. Be sure to give the full name of the author (Tony Russell Wayman) even if the reviewer doesn't. Once you've added these two review records, you'll have to remove and delete the current one. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 05:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Your submission to disambiguate the titles in this issue deletes the link to [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/e/ef/NDRJLTDDSG1967.jpg this cover image]. Is that deliberate or a mistake? I will restore it if it's a mistake -- no need to do anything with the submission. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 12:54, 3 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Yes it is a mistake, thanks for spotting it! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 13:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::All set. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Something Else #2 (redux) ==<br />
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Perhaps you missed [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Prof_beard#Something_Else_.232 my posting] concerning this record? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:58, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:See above[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== World of Ptaavs ==<br />
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Cover artist for [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?219545 this]] edition is Peter Jones. Just entered a record for the first '78 [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431435 Futura]] printing with a full-cover [[http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/2/25/WRLDFPTVVB1978.jpg image]] that shows Jones' initials on the back. Don't know if the second '78 printing has a different back cover or not ... --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 02:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! The initials are are on the back cover of my copy too - must do these things in brighter light! :) 09:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Plague Ship ==<br />
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Since the edition used for [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267530 this]] record is printed in Australia, the record should have the Australian price in the field, not the UK one as it is a separate edition. I have the UK printing and will create another record for it. --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 02:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Cheers Bill - have sorted that. Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:53, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Tome of Fire'' ==<br />
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I accepted the submission to add the contents to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398616 this record]. It would have been easier for both of us if you'd imported the contents from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?398614 this record]. You would have avoided having to enter a record for each story, and I would not have had to merge all of the newly created records with the ones in the database. A question: can you confirm the spelling of the story on page 11? In the other collection it is spelled "Vulkan's Shield", but it's not been verified. Thanks for looking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "Data from Amazon.UK" vs "Primary Verification" ==<br />
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I've noticed your last few submissions for primary verified records state "Data from Amazon UK", which conflicts with the Primary Verification. Ordinarily the data would be from the book itself, and you would only note any fields which contain data from a secondary source. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks- so I should say "Month etc" from Amazon rather than date? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::You're not saying "Date", you're saying "Data". That may be the problem. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:24, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::oh dear! Typo! (Then cut and pasted to compound the felony) Will correct - sorry!<br />
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:I've been putting a quote of the print year (all that the book provided) in the notes. I'll edit them to say "month" or "month and day" from amazon as appropriate? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Whatever data you receive from a secondary source should be noted, whether it be the day, month or year. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:24, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Space Hulk The Novel'' ==<br />
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431473 This record] was accepted, but you failed to create a content record for this CHAPTERBOOK-typed publication. Also, "The Novel" is a subtitle (in some opinions), and if you choose to record it in the title field (most editors don't), it should be offset with a colon, e.g. ''Space Hulk: The Novel''. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:16, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:noted - will sort that out - I've done two other chapterbooks as well so I'll do the same to them [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Blood Gorgons'' ==<br />
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There are two mutually exclusive statements of publishing date in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?340426 Blood Gorgons].<br />
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I've also seen that you seem to prefer the statements of the respective publishing date given by amazon over other sources (such as Locus). There's not much harm done if you (as in the case I've seen) just put a distinctive day into the field. In my opinion, amazon should not be given preference above other sources (and especially not above statements in a given publication): I do suspect that selling is here the main emphasis, not giving bibliographical information per se. And we really don't know who is entering the data; he or she may pick the day of entering the data, for example. Thanks for reading so far, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi = thanks for spotting the anomaly - it was a typo and I've submitted a correction. I don't "prefer" Amazon, I've used it in the main where there is additional (month and/or day) information. If I've removed any links to Locus, this was over-enthusiastic editing and I'll take note not to in future. Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the correction, but the statement is still doubled. You may want to delete the surplus one. And with amazon: We should have a source for a publishing date, and we should refer to amazon if we have no other source. But I see some possible trapping involved if we do think this source is reliable per se (obviously, because I thought so only some months ago), knowing that reliabity for bibliographic data doesn't come first for online sellers: they certainly aren't against it, but the person who enters the data may be under time constraints. I do think that they nowadays will use the data supplied by publishers, but we can't be sure of this and it possibly won't be the case for every publisher. I also do think that month of publication is sufficient, if we have a reliable source. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
::What came to my mind just a few minutes ago, is that for first publications the date for the title (and also for the cover art) has also to be changed, to have them fitting. This is a lot of work for a (possibly) fine-tuning, I think. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 16:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::: I think I've sorted that now (had a bunch of distractions - not helpful!). Re Amazon - I agree with you - I've been taking the view that if that is all there is, use it, but will be happy to follow any consensus view? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:06, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Planetkill'' ==<br />
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Is it really printed in 2006 for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255728 Planetkill], published in 2008? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Corrected - had someone at the door and got distracted - sorry![[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Yes, that sort of nuisance does happen; no harm done. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 16:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Yandro #174 ==<br />
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Who is the author credited with the piece on page 8 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431388 this publication]? It currently gives a date in the author field. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Corrected - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== HTML problem ==<br />
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I believe you may be using a template for notes with incorrect HTML. I've fixed 8 records which you primary verified that had very similar notes, but one of the lines (the one that starts "First printing...") begins with an angle bracket "<" but is missing the remaining "BR>". Please correct this if you continue to use this template. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:34, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Many apologies - not a template but a poor piece of cutting with multiple pastes [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:23, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Ad Astra'' and "He Who Fights" ==<br />
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I have on hold your submission that adds disambiguation to one of the content titles and that changes "He Who Fights: Part One" to "He Who Fights (Part 1 of 2)". No problem with either of those, but that submission also changes the publication's title field to "He Who Fights (Part 1 of 2)" from "Ad Astra, v3 #15". Clearly not right (correct?), but I'm wondering if it's something you might have done by accident or if the submission software somehow did the wrong thing. What do you think? Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 16:20, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Hmmmm - all I did was edit the entry in Ad Astra v3 #15 from "Part One" to (Part 1 of 2) - I did this because I acquired Ad Astra #16 which contains He Who Fights (Part 2 of 2) and I thought that would be the best thing to keep the story titles meaningful? I didn't try and change the publications title at al! Hope this helps. Prof[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok, thanks. I am going to leave it on hold for Ahasuerus to take a look at. When he's done, I will accept it and fix it. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks - I'm pretty sure it is as I say - but given my obvious attack of finger trouble today, anything is possible :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Jupiter Theft'' author in Ad Astra review ==<br />
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In {{P|431669|Ad Astra v2 #2}}, the spelling of the author of ''The Jupiter Theft'' should be "Moffitt", not "Moffit". I have corrected it and linked the review. If the publication misspells it, add a note citing the discrepancy (for reviews, we only use canonical names or existing matching pseudonyms in the review record and don't create additional author entries for misspellings or natural name variations, relegating that info to the notes). Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:p.s. While mentioning reviews in this pub.... Is there any further info in the review about Laumer's ''The Ultimate Man''? We don't have a record of it, and I can't find it. I find one sketchy reference to a 1987 Baen edition, but only on Biblio.com and then citing a bookseller. Nothing at all for a 1979 / 1980 edition. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Both were typos - I submitted a correction which I guess you haven't seen yet - the Laumer title is "The Ultimax Man" - my fingers seem to be playing up today :) sorry [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Review in ''Ad Astra v2 #1'' ==<br />
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I changed "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galxy" to "The Hitchhiker'''<u>'</u>'''s Guide to the Gal'''<u>a</u>'''xy" in {{P|431677|Ad Astra v2 #1}} and linked it to that title. If either of those was not a typo, again record the discrepancy in the notes. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 17:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I'd spotted I'd made a typo too late! Many thanks. Prof[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:21, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "Driftglass" review in ''Ad Astra v2 #3'' ==<br />
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I changed the author's name from "Samu'''<u>a</u>'''l R. Delany" to "Samu'''<u>e</u>'''l R. Delany" in your {{P|431678|Ad Astra v2 #3}} and linked it to the collection of the same title. Again, if it wasn't a typo, record the discrepancy in the notes. I see he also has a piece of short fiction by that title, so if it's not a review of the collection, link the review to the other title. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 17:15, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:No it was the collection being reviewed - very sorry about my attack of typos !!! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:20, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Ad Astra'', V3 #13 ==<br />
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Can you confirm the spelling of the author credit for the story on page 21 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431680 this issue]? (There is an author {{A|Garry Kilworth}}. Note the two "r"s in his first name.) Also, are you certain that the volume numbering should be the way to go in titling the issues of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/seriesgrid.cgi?35606 this periodical]? Looking at the cover images you've provided, it appears that only the issue number is given. And one last thing, can you confirm the volume numbering in the title field of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431215 this issue]? It doesn't align with the other issues. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. Yes it is misspelled in the publication - on checking it IS the Garry K - I' ll correct in the listing and add a note about the misspelling? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:11, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I accepted the submission to change this before I read your response. As has been pointed out, and made clear throughout all of the ISFDB help pages, it is the standard to record credits as presented in the publication. If the story is credited to "Gary Kilworth" on page 21 (as I originally asked), then it should be entered as "Gary Kilworth" in the ISFDB record of this publication. We then create a variant record so that it is correctly attributed to the author's canonical name. If this is the case, I'll need to fix it, because I've already merged it with the title record under the author's canonical name, and it will take several submissions to clean it. So again, how is the author credited on page 21? Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::: the author Kilworth is credited as "Gary" on p21 - sorry about the change, but I thought I'd had conflicting guidance from moderators on this in the past - in hindsight I'm wrong though - In future I'll stick to quoting the publication verbatim. Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:05, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:The issue numbering for Ad Astra is all over the place - the issue is correctly cited, but it does indeed not align - if you look here on GC you will see what I mean - http://www.philsp.com/mags/sf_a.html#ad_astra That list is reflected in the printed publications. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:11, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Since the volume numbering of the periodical is incorrect, I would suggest using only the issue number given in the issue. Is "Issue Fourteen" given in the interior in either the publisher's colophon or the contents page? In order to make the titles of all issues consistent, I would suggest that only the issue number be given in them as well. When publications which give a combination of dating, the order of preference should be 1) month/year ("January 2013"), 2) issue number ("Issue 14"), and 3) volume numbering ("Vol. 21, No. 2"). The last should only be used if neither of the first two are present in the publication. We only use secondary sources (like Galactic Central or Locus) for the date field, if the date is not present in the publication. When we have the publication in hand, we do not use secondary sources for the title field, which follows the ISFDB standard of entering data as given in the publication. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::the publications have "Issue 14" etc on the outside cover only - that is the only consistent thing about them. The contents list etc have no date of any sort. The v2 #3 etc are what is given in the contents pages and are completely inconsistent (the GC list merely gives the content page versions and the front cover numbering). Shall I change all the issues entries to reflect front cover numbering?[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I would suggest that because of the inconsistency, the title fields should just give just the issue number, i.e. "Ad Astra, Issue Thirteen". Also, please check the HTML in the Note field of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431680 this record], which has a display problem. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 05:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::OK Thanks - will do that. Have sorted the other display problem too.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Name check in ''Ad Astra'', V2 #1 ==<br />
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Can you confirm the author credit given on page 25 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431677 this publication]? Is it spelled "Ricahrd Dell"? Thanks for looking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks - it's a typo - I've submitted a correction. I must apologise, I've suffered an attack of typos today, despite thinking I'd checked things [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Masque of Vyle'' ==<br />
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Please confirm the publisher given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431762 this record]. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Done - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:20, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Links in pub/title notes ==<br />
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Apologies if you already know this. For your {{P|434133|Startling Stories, <nowiki>[January]</nowiki> 1954 (UK)}}: If you want to put a clickable link in publication or title (or other database record) notes, you cannot use the Wiki-style:<pre>[http://www.sfcovers.net/mainnav.htm Visco]</pre> but must use HTML:<pre><a href="http://www.sfcovers.net/mainnav.htm">Visco</a></pre> instead. More details at [[Help:Using_HTML_in_Note_Fields]]. If you didn't want to put a clickable link in the notes, then don't mind me. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 12:13, 5 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes I did know that, but forgot to edit the note! Will do that thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:19, 5 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Startling Stories, [January] 1954 (UK) ==<br />
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I've approved your edit for this magazine but the value of the "image" field was unusable [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?434133 please see the result]. Can you resubmit your link ? (I suppose it's for [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/8/8a/STRTLNGSTB1954.jpg this image]). Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 12:50, 5 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks I've re-uploaded the scan and resubmitted [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== The Soul of the Robot ==<br />
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Found precise pub date for your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427973 here]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:58, 5 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Excellent! Thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Survival world ==<br />
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Hello, I've approved your submission for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?33891 this pub] as I think that images hosted by us are better than amazon ones, but in this case I wonder about the poor state of the book. Perhaps was it better to copy amazon's on your computer image and upload it instead. I've also seen that you changed some amazon scan, please don't forget to notify (according to their preferences) all the PVs and not only PV1 (in my case you can consider me informed).[[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for this - in that case, I think your advice is sound and I'll do that. Must confess, I have been informing PV1 mainly - will correct this in future.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 14:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Replacing the cover of ''More Women of Wonder'' ==<br />
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Hello, I had to reject your submission. You gave the URL for the publication with no. 178177, not the one for the uploaded cover. Thanks, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Ooops - will correct thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== John Brunner's Round Trip ==<br />
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You verified {{P|59622|this pub}} which contains {{T|55096|Round Trip}} and {{P|99921|this pub}} which contains {{T|224521|The Round Trip}}. Are these the same story? If so, the second should be variented to the first. If not, it would be good to add a note to the title records indicating that. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:08, 15 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! I hadn't spotted that - the result of not PV1-ing either of them and focusing too much on content and page numbers and the expense of detail! They are the same. Will create variant as suggested Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 13:17, 15 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Soul Drinker ==<br />
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Hello, don't you think that the title of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?391027 thid pub] should be shortened to just _Soul Drinker_ ?. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I agree - that was the entry when I verified it, but I'll change it[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Disambiguating Robert Mason ==<br />
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1. Happy Christmas!<br />
2. We had a bunch of unverified artist records listed under the bibliography for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?527 Robert Mason], the author and Vietnam helicopter pilot, that needed disambiguating to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?198358 Robert Mason (artist)], the British illustrator. The only remaining record is for your verified pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18383 Interzone: The 1st Anthology]. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 10:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Hi. - I'm not sure what you want/ you need me to do? The disambiguation is fine with me! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: I wasn't about to change the field in a record verified by others, and simply needed to suggest to the verifiers that it needed changing. Hauck has done it, so no worries. Back to the mince pies… ;) [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 21:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Walter M. Miller ==<br />
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If [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?435989 this book] was published as by "Walter M. Miller", the pub record was entered under the wrong title record. Also, all of the stories would have to be changed to credit the penname (unless the stories have individual author credit). This is going to take several submissions to accomplish. If you want me to do it, I will, or I go step you through the process. Also, did [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?112231 the 1973 reprint] credit the author without "Jr."? Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:The 1968 Panther was, as I noted, published with "Walter M. Miller" on both the cover and title page, with the "Jr" only appearing on the copyright page. Happy to do the required changes if you will describe the steps involved. Good point about the reprint - I should have picked this up (I wasn't pv1 for the reprint and may have overlooked it because the pv1 was much more experienced) but that is the same as the 1968 - ie it has Walter M. Miller on cover and title page and "copyright Walter M. Miller Jr" on the copyright page[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:08, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: you can see the wording on the reprint cover scan, by the way.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::I wasn't doubting the credit that you gave on the record, only that it was entered under [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?38108 a title record] credited to "Walter M. Miller, Jr.". If a book is published under a name different from the canonical name (title page credit of course, front cover credit is irrelevant), it has to be varianted to the canonical name. Here are the steps to make corrections to the records:<br />
:::# Correct the credit in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?112231 the 1973 reprint]'s author field. (Leave a note on the other primary verifier's talk page.)<br />
:::# Use the "Unmerge Titles" function to remove both the 1968 and 1973 editions of these books from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?38108 the parent title record].<br />
:::# Use the Remove Titles From This Pub" function to remove all contents from both pub records. (Two separate submissions.)<br />
:::# Update the 1968 record to add the content records, crediting "Walter M. Miller" with each of the stories.<br />
:::# Once the above submission is accepted, use the "Import Content" function to copy the contents from the 1968 record to the 1973 record.<br />
:::# Merge the two newly-created title records for ''A View from the Stars'' credited to "Walter M. Miller".<br />
:::# Variant this title record (credited to "Miller") to the one credited to "Miller, Jr.".<br />
:::# Variant each story's title record credited to "Miller" to its counterpart credited to "Miller, Jr." (Nine separate submissions.)<br />
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:::[[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::thanks! I'm fairly sure I follow that... I'll start doing it tomorrow morning when I'm fresh :). Will post here if I need to ask for any follow-up advice[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 20:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Hi - I've done steps 1) and 2) so far. A question re step 4) - when added the content do I give the stories the date of the publication of the 1968 edition? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:13, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::: I approved the pub edit (step 1)), but put the other edits on hold for Michael to review. I believe there is a bug when you try to unmerge publications from these title records. Step 2) was meant for the collection's title record, which Michael linked to.<br />
::::: Re your question about step 4), when you add contents, leave the date field blank. The date of the publication of the 1968 edition is added automatically. Please try step 2) again first. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem H.]] 11:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::: I think Ive submitted step 2) correctly now - shall I cancel the others or leave them for Michael? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::::: Can you leave the edits for now? I'm not really sure the bug still exists. The remove and then add titles method is better anyway. Step 2) approved. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem H.]] 11:28, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::: OK thanks - will carry on then [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::: I should have known. The last edits emptied the ones on hold. You can cancel them now, nothing to see anymore. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem H.]] 11:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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[unindent] Step 4 submission accepted. Please proceed. (Willem, yes, there once was a bug when "unmerging" a pub from one of its content title records. Although I think it's been fixed, I don't do it and advice editors to use the "Remove Titles from This Pub" function which accomplishes the same thing cleanly. As you say, the advice I gave here was to unmerge a pub record from its title record. I believe the function is incorrectly titled as it should be "Unmerge Publication Records from This Title" instead of "Unmerge Titles". I'd mentioned this before, but it never got much traction in discussion. Maybe one day it will be corrected. Thanks.) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:37, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Looking at the list of cancelled/rejected submissions I see that Prof Beard attempted something which wasn't one of the steps that I outlined above, i.e. "unmerging" pub records from content title records, one submission for each of contents. Even if this method works, and I'm not sure if it does or not, the number of submissions and moderations make it an unwise choice. Thanks Willem for catching them. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:indeed - thanks Willem - not having unmerged things before, I went for what was obviously a long-winded approach - I've learnt now :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 17:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Submissions for Step 8 accepted, except for the first two which varianted to new records with the same author credit. I had to reject them. Please try again. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::thanks - have tried again... [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::Sorry. They weren't correct. I've given you the correct title record to variant to in the reject notices of each. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::: thanks - oddly, a couple of the submissions flagged up that I was trying to make a variant of variant, but one of these last two didn't. It's been a good learning experience [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 18:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::The flags appeared because you can only create a variant to the parent record. (Three of the stories were retitled from their original publication appearance.) If you try to make a variant to a title record which is itself a variant of another record, you'll get the warning. The one that didn't get a flag ("The Will") was because it kept the same name. Everything now looks good. Let me know if you need any further assistance with unmerging and varianting records. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Thanks - that makes sense! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 19:24, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Richard Davis (Ed.) - Space 1 (pb) ==<br />
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Hi, I refer to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?149311 here] which you recently verified as "Primary 3". The Primary 1 & Primary 2 verifiers are no longer active, so you are now the authority for this publication! :-))) . I have some changes that I'd like to make with your agreement: <br />
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First the easy one: Would you please check the Canadian price on the back of your copy. Mine has $1.98, not $1.95 (my copy doesn't have anything about different printings, but publishers have been known to change things without changing the printing details!). <br />
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The other changes I'd like to make are:<br />
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My copy has the author of "Teddysaurs" to be James Hamilton-Paterson (not J. Hamilton-Patterson [with 2 ts] put in as a variant of James Hamilton-Patterson [again with 2 ts]). What does your copy have? (normally I'd add "above the story itself", but my copy only has the author in the TOC - rather unusually)<br />
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The trickiest change is: My copy has the 2nd last story to be "Neighbour" by Clifford Simak. This is a variant of ("Neighbor" by Clifford D. Simak), not ("Neighbor" by Clifford D. Simak). (I suspect it slipped through in the early days of ISFDB when we were learning the ways to do things.) What does your copy have? <br />
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I have both this pb and the earlier hc. The hc's only verifier is no longer active, so, being a moderator, I've already made the changes to the stories on the hc - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31365 here]. I'm not sure how much you've picked up on "changing" story titles & authors in anthologies or collections, and on variant titles. (Being in Australia, when I'm working on ISFDB, most other editors aren't, so I don't do much moderating of other editor's submissions.) Let me know if I need to explain more. --[[User:Clarkmci|clarkmci / j_clark]] 08:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! I've checked and you are right about the Canadian price - well spotted! Ditto - I've have "Hamilton-Paterson" too. (And authors on contents page only) Your are right about "Neighbour" too (I probably just assumed it was right - being spelled correctly from my point of view as a Brit :) ). Very grateful for this - I must have had an off day when I PV'ed this one! Whilst I could do the changes myself, I'm more than happy for you to do them if you are willing. Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Was quicker for me to do it with all the Remove Titles, Find Duplicates, and Make Variants required. Changes done. Thanks for your prompt reply. --[[User:Clarkmci|clarkmci / j_clark]] 23:03, 5 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Legends / Victories of the Space Marines ==<br />
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I just noticed that the title stated on the cover differs from the publication's title as entered [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?343968 here]. In these cases it's better to note the reason (for example: 'title as stated on title page differs from cover'). Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 14:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually - it was the wrong cover! Corrected now :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 14:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Oh, well, things such as that do happen! [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: They certainly do - I was in the process of correcting it when your first message arrived, so I'm only "a bit" embarrassed :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Protectorate'' by Farren ==<br />
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I've accepted a submission from a non-verifying editor which gives the month of publication for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?26859 this record], based on data from Locus1. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Roadside Picnic ==<br />
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I've added the SF Masterworks series no. "68" that was missing from the record for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430204 verified pub]. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 23:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:08, 26 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Thieves' World ==<br />
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Hi - I noticed you verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?235985 this pub], but you didn't mention a two page uncredited piece called "A Few Remarks by Furtwan Coinpinch, Merchant", which appears just before "Shadowspawn" in my US edition, and which is not listed in the contents page. Could you check to see if it's in your edition? Thanks. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] [[User_talk:Mike Christie|(talk)]] 15:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes Mike, it is there - not listed in the contents either. I'll add it, thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Summer 1990 issue of Weird Tales ==<br />
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I added navigation links and letters by authors already in the database to the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?62168 Summer 1990] issue of ''Weird Tales''. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I also made similar edits to the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?62160 Spring 1992] issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:37, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:And the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?62170 Summer 1993] issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Einstein Intersection'' ==<br />
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I've added overseas prices to the note for our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?117301 verified pub]. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 06:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''West of the Sun'' ==<br />
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I've added overseas prices to the note for our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?162751 verified pub]. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 16:51, 23 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Mission to Universe ==<br />
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Replaced the amazon scan and identified the artist from initials on the cover for [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?166161 this]] Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 23:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Cheers Bill [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== More Tales of Unease ==<br />
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Hi. I have added overseas prices to the note for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276418 verified pub]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Thanks! Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Brother Berserker ==<br />
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Found initials on the back cover of [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189989 this]], about half way up in the dark brown of the rocks so amended the notes slightly. Also a better scan. Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 20:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Follow-up when creating pseudonyms ==<br />
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When you make one author into a pseudonym of another, it is important to follow this up be creating variants for the pseudonymously published titles. Otherwise, the title remains on the pseudonym's page and will not be visible on the canonical author's page. I varianted the story by {{A|S. P. Cawkwell}} to {{A|Sarah Cawkwell}}. You will see now that the story is no longer on the pseudonym's page, but on the canonical author's page. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! Actually, I hadn't forgotten - I was waiting for the pseudonym to be approved and just logged in to do the variant :) But, your reminder is still welcomed - I do forget stuff sometimes! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Scars'' by Chris Wraight ==<br />
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A quick question about you verified edition of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439475 ''Scars'']. The series that it belongs to, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?11905 ''The Horus Heresy''], is a regular series rather than a "publication series" (the latter are used to group publications like Ace Doubles or Gollancz Masterworks books, which may not be otherwise related), so I have adjusted the series information accordingly. However, I wonder about "#11905", which you entered in the "Publication Series Number" field. Could you please clarify where this number is found? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:52, 15 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for that - clear now. I got the #11905 from here: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?11905 "ISFDB Series Record # 11905" [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:59, 15 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: Oh, I see! That's the series record number, which is the same as the digits to the right of the question mark in the URL :-) Record numbers are used when performing certain operations, e.g. importing and exporting Content items from one publication to another (see [[Help:Screen:ImportContent]] and [[Help:Screen:ExportContent]]) or creating variants (see [[Help:Screen:MakeVariant]]). [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 19:38, 15 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks - I'd used record numbers for import/export and variants and though it would work here - you live and learn :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Fleet: Breakthrough ==<br />
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There is a signature on the cover of [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?254047 this]]. On the shoulder of the 'cat' is Gurney. It's visible in the image attached to the record. --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 22:34, 16 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Snares & Delusions ==<br />
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Please see {{T|816861|Snares & Delusions}} and {{T|1570119|Snares and Delusions}}. All of the verified publications containing these two titles have been verified by you. Would you double check the "and" vs. "&" and variant the two records if correct? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 00:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Necessary changes submitted Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Locus1 verification ==<br />
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For [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7881 this]] collection the verification should be from Contento, the Locus Index only starts in 1984. I also added a link to the source for the 1965 date. Whether that's enough to change the date [even the second printing has 1964 for the first] is up to the various Verifiers. I'll leave a note on Willem's/Hauck's pages. Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 21:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I can't properly assess the fiability of the web source. Most of the printed bibliographies for the individual authors that I've consulted (the GCP series, Covell on Mcintosh, etc.) give a 1964 date. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 08:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::The statement in the publication itself prevails. I rephrased the note, but the publication date should not be changed. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem H.]] 09:38, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: The Locus verification looks like a slip of the mouse from me - sorry - it is indeed listed in Contento and I intended to add that verification originally [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Best SF Stories from New Worlds 3 ==<br />
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Hello. I have added overseas prices to the note for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4181 verified pub], and replaced the Amazon image with a better cover scan. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Analog Two ==<br />
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Hi. My own copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?292988 your verified] is priced 5/-, not 3/6. It does seem to be the 1967 edition, though. Would the second price be a slip of the keyboard ? Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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:You are correct (As far as my copy goes) Mine is clearly stated as "Panther edition published 1967" but could we have a later printing ? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::I think I read somewhere on this site (where ?) that Panther books usually state reprints. IMHO, I think the 1967 ''Analog Two'' record started as a clone of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302085 ''Analog One''], but the price wasn't corrected. Couldn't the difference in length (218 p. against 169) account for the difference in price ? [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 13:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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::: I've not read anything on here about it, but I have a lot of Panther books and it is true that reprints are normally stated. I'm unsure how we go forwards with this one! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Year's Best Science Fiction 3 ==<br />
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Added note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?286119 your verified] about ISBN number not appearing as such on book (created from serial number + Sphere prefix). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 14:21, 31 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== The Year's Best Science Fiction No. 7 ==<br />
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Added overseas prices to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50793 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''Twelve Wolves'' by Ben Counter ==<br />
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I added a content record to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?443881 this CHAPTERBOOK publication record] per ISFDB standards. Keep that in mind when adding any future CHAPTERBOOK-typed publications. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:I was going to import that once the entry was approved as it had been published several times elsewhere. So, it wasn't a "forgotten" :) Is not that the easiest approach? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::With only one content record, neither method has an advantage over the other. Either way, it would have taken two submissions. Your method: 1) create contentless pub record, and 2) import content. My method: 1 create pub record with content, and 2) merge the content with the existing record. If there had been more than one content record which was already in the database, your method would save the data entry time. If you choose to use that method in the future, let the moderator handling the submission know that in the "Note to Moderator" field. And make a note to yourself that you need to go back and import the content. (Or stick around for it to be moderated. The queue wait is extremely short these days.) Your method also increases the chance that you'll forget to add the content if you have to wait longer than usual.<br />
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::BTW, the submission adding that publication record was accepted (by another moderator) on March 31 at 8 am. My submission to add the content was made on April 1 at 2 pm (after discovering the record on a list of malformed chapterbook records). Under the circumstances, it would have been better to add the content at the time of the original submission. Either way, I appreciate your contributions to the database. Thank you. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thanks for the clarification :) I turned out to be busier than expected, hence the delay - c'est la vie [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]]<br />
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== Cover artist on ''The Flies of Memory'' ==<br />
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An editor proposes changing the cover artist credit on your 2-verified {{P|39923|The Flies of Memory}} from Mike Posen (which is what Locus1 says) to Mick Posen, based on the back-cover credit. Would you double-check and see what your copy says? I am also checking with the primary verifier, but you're more active and are likely to see this sooner; if I get confirmation from either of you, I will accept the edit. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:32, 5 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: My copy has Mick rather than Mike on the back cover. I'm embarrassed I didn't spot that :( [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks. I accepted the change and adjusted the notes to remove the Locus1 source for the artist credit and to reflect Locus1's error. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 10:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Interior art for ''The Malacia Tapestry'' ==<br />
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In the process of editing the artist [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?203433 Tiepolo] (and varianting his works) I came across [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?110931 this edition], of which I do think that it has the same set of artworks as in other editions of the novel, see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?115621 here] for an example. Since the primary verifier for your printing isn't active anymore, could you be so kind to take a look if this is indeed the case? Thanks, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 06:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:You are indeed correct - I'll remove the existing entries and import the full list (and page number as per edition) from the edition you link to [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:19, 17 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Profit of Doom ==<br />
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Hi, I may have found the cover artist for {{P|429956|The Profit of Doom}}: [http://www.dirac.ch/DiracHugh.html This page] shows a cover with a signature 'Hardy'.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 23:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks - I've added a note that effect. There are a number of "Hardy" artists sadly. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:54, 12 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== A Mirror for Observers ==<br />
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Added better cover scan to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?162971 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:34, 12 May 2014 (UTC).<br />
: Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Gollancz edition of ''The Gold at the Starbow's End'' ==<br />
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I have added the price (and an accompanying note that you may delete, if you just forgot to add it) to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267426 this].<br />
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You may have overlooked the question I posed three items above on the art in ''The Malacia Tapestry'' - that does happen from time to time to all of us :-( . Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:41, 15 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for the note and price. I had overlooked the Malacia Tapestry question - will look into it[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Caves of Steel ==<br />
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Added better cover scan (better definition, no crease on cover) and a note (presence of Chris Foss's signature) to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?370408 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 12:54, 17 May 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Thanks doing that [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:31, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Foundation ==<br />
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Added overseas prices to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311017 your verified]; replaced the cover scan by a slightly less scuffed version, with correct dimensions. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Foundation and Empire ==<br />
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Replaced cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204709 your verified] (less scuffed, better definition). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:45, 25 May 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Thanks for both of these [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Armada Sci-Fi 3 ==<br />
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Hi, re your verified publication [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265680 here]<br />
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I'd like to replace the catalogue ID with the ISBN, viz 0006910777 - from the back cover of my copy (then I'll put the catalogue number in the Notes). This means the links on the left of the page to Amazon, Worldcat, etc will work. I will also put the other prices in the Notes: Australia $1.25, New Zealand $1.40, Canada $1.25. What do you think? --[[User:Clarkmci|clarkmci / j_clark]] 02:35, 28 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Fine by me - thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:38, 29 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Traveller in Black ==<br />
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Uploaded a new cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?336623 your verified] (correct dimension, better definition, no black frame). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== "New Worlds 10", by Hilary Bailey ==<br />
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Since the primary verifier for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23793 this book] is no longer active, you are now the verifier to notify of changes to this record. The story "Mirror, Mirror on the Wall" is listed that way in the ToC, but is listed without the comma on the story title page. Our policy is to use the later, so I have dropped that comma from the title. [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 16:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Noted - and thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== A Maze of Death ==<br />
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Uploaded a new cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230517 your verified] (correct dimension, better definition) and added some notes. In particular, I indicated the presence of a number, “209.”, above the hand of the creature on the left, which might be some clue as to the identity of the artist, if such a practice is recurrent. I hunted for some more hidden details, but couldn't find any. Cheers. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Galactic Pot-Healer ==<br />
Replaced the Amazon image by a new cover scan, and added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230541 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 19:43, 10 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Solar Lottery ==<br />
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Uploaded another cover scan (whole wraparound) of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230973 your verified], and added some notes (overseas prices). As far as page count is concerned, I would tend to enter 188, not 192, as the last four pages are unnumbered and devoted to advertising. How do you feel about it ? [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Have made the suggested edit - thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover art for ''Galactic Pot-Healer'' and ''A Maze of Death'' ==<br />
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The recent edits on your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230541 Galactic Pot Healer] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230517 A Maze of Death] prompted me to contact who I suspected was the uncredited cover artist for both titles, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?23222 Ian Miller]. He confirms he did both covers. I've added the cover artist credit and a note to each. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]]<br />
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== Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said ==<br />
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Replaced the cover scan (better definition) and added some notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230489 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:58, 14 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== The Penultimate Truth ==<br />
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Replaced the cover scan (better definition) and added some notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230505 this one]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch ==<br />
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Same thing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230585 here]. Furthermore, I think the publisher of this edition should be entered as “Triad Panther” and not just “Panther”, as this is the way it appears on the title page. And it would be consistent with the same entry for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230505 The Penultimate Truth]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Have made the suggested edit - thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thanks ! [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 21:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Martian Time-Slip ==<br />
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Replaced the cover scan (whole wraparound, fewer scuffs) and added some notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230469 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 21:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Counter-Clock World ==<br />
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Added some notes and uploaded new cover scan for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192717 this one]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 21:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== VALIS ==<br />
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Ditto for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310869 this]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Beyond Lies the Wub ==<br />
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Hello. I have added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375122 your verified], and will upload a new cover scan. A few things bother me about this pub : there is no source for the 1993 date (my copy, 3rd printing, only has “published by Grafton 1990”); and there is no “Foreword” by Steven Owen Godersky (I've just been through the whole book). I suppose that it comes from a clone of the 1987 Underwood-Miller edition, and in my opinion a) it would have to be suppressed, and b) this 1993 date would need to be checked or given a source. Thanks for looking it up if possible. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 13:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: I'm not PV1, but my copy is the same as you describe above, so I agree with your view (I was "new" when I verified this :) ) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:18, 25 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for responding. As Pips55 hasn't been around since December 7th 2013, waiting for a possible answer from him might take some time. I'll go and tinker a bit with that pub record in the meantime. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 16:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Second Variety ==<br />
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Replaced the cover scan (whole wraparound) and added some notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375123 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 12:37, 18 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== The Father-Thing ==<br />
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Ditto for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375124 this one]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:58, 19 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== The Lovers ==<br />
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Added a minor note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?201005 your verified] (special lettering by David Myers), and uploaded a new cover scan (better definition). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:38, 20 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Edward Valigursky ==<br />
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Please see [[ISFDB:Community Portal#Ed(ward) Valigursky|this discussion]] regarding covers by Edward Valigursky. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 02:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Noted [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:19, 25 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Dark Universe'' ==<br />
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Expanded the notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307767 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Edge of Time ==<br />
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Replaced scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39033 your verifed] (correct dimension). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== New Worlds 34 ==<br />
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Hello, I've added some items (editorial, reviews, lettercol) to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?59624 here]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:48, 25 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Word Bearers Omnibus ==<br />
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re {{P|366790|The Word Bearers Omnibus}}: The publication title has a leading "The", but the title record does not. They should match. Amazon Look Inside doesn't show the leading "The" on the pub's title page. Would you please check your copy and either correct the publication page or title record as appropriate? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for this - I've submitted an edit - the correct version is actually "Word Bearers The Omnibus" - I cant understand how I did that in the first place! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: Yes I can - I cloned the publication from the (unverified) US version (which is also incorrect) - I've submitted an edit for that - that's what I get for being lazy :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:54, 29 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Missing content record ==<br />
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I added the missing SHORTFICTION content record for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?456549 this publication], which is required for all CHAPTERBOOK records. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 05:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Sorry about that! Have submitted an edit with page number[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:04, 1 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Big Time'' ==<br />
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Uploaded a new cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35971 your verified] (correct dimension, better definition). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 16:01, 4 July 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''Restoree'' ==<br />
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The artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?126951 this pub] must be Angus McKie, judging from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/pulpcrush/7560650624/ this site]. Cheers ! [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:29, 5 July 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Thanks - have updated record [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Science Fictional Solar System'' ==<br />
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Is the story on page 153 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288631 this book] credited to "Winston P. Sanders" or Poul Anderson? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:The story's title page states: POUL ANDERSON (as Winston P. Sanders) - therefore I listed in as PA? (Sorry for delay by the way, I've been in Canada)[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Then it's correctly credited in the record. The verified record for the US edition of this anthology credits Anderson. I'll ask that verifier to recheck. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The World Inside'' ==<br />
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Added some notes and uploaded a new cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?122821 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''The Time Hoppers'' ==<br />
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Same thing with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?123871 this one]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:27, 17 July 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''Bug Jack Baron'' ==<br />
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Added some notes and replaced the cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?110911 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:50, 21 July 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Astounding (UK), August 1953 ==<br />
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Should the unpaged contents in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375089 this record] be removed, or did you forget to add the page numbers? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for spotting that, they should have been removed from this UK edition - have submitted appropriate edit [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Spacing in initialed names ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460224 this publication]: I added spaces after the periods in the five stories which are credited to authors with initialed names. Please keep this in mind when adding future records. Also, I removed the space in the last name of one of the two records credited to Graham McNeil. (It was entered as "Graham Mc Neil".) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]<br />
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:I will take note of the spacing convention. The Mc Neil thing must have been a typo - thanks for that 09:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Sun Grows Cold ==<br />
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Hi, I found the artist for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/editpub.cgi?258984 The Sun Grows Cold]: Colin Hay. See [http://www.chameleon-arts.com/colin-hay/jackets-17.html here].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 13:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Sun Grows Cold ==<br />
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Hi, found the artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258984 The Sun Grows Cold]: Colin Hay. See [http://www.chameleon-arts.com/colin-hay/jackets-17.html here].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 13:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:04, 3 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Away and Beyond'' ==<br />
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Added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325317 your verified], modified page count from 218 to 219 (last page of the text unpaginated), and uploaded a new cover scan (better definition). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:16, 2 August 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''Destination: Universe!'' ==<br />
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Added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?194865 this one], and re-sized the cover scan to the correct dimension. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Alien Art ==<br />
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Added a price, with appropriate notes, to [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429250 this]]. Seems like there was an edition with a dustwrapper?? Maybe both our copies are library editions?? Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 01:28, 4 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:That would seem to be the case Bill - my copy is ex libris... Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:16, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Jizzle'' ==<br />
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Added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180921 your verified], and uploaded a new cover scan (fewer scuffs and creases, better definition). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''The Best of John Wyndham 1951-1960'' ==<br />
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Added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276515 your verified], and uploaded a new cover scan (better definition). Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== ''Web'' ==<br />
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Added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226085 your verified], and re-sized the cover scan to the correct dimension. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Multiface ==<br />
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Added exact publication date [from Review slip] to [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108511 this]]. --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 21:34, 10 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Analog Two ==<br />
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A few months ago there was a discussion regarding the pricing of {{P|292988|this printing}} of "Analog Two". I wrote a reply [[User_talk:Herzbube#Analog_Two|on my talk page]], in case you are interested. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Tactics of Mistake ==<br />
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Added an external link to the cover artist's web site to {{P|312992|this pub}} that you verified. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:12, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== A Far Sunset ==<br />
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Hi. Can I ask you to double check {{P|189585|your verified}}, please. My copy seems to be identical but it has "SBN 340 04364 4" on the back cover and copyright page, "4364" on the spine (no leading zero) and other prices of Australia 60c, New Zealand 55c, South Africa 45c & Canada 75c. It seems unlikely that you could have missed the SBN but I thought it worth checking before deciding that my copy must be a reprint. Many thanks. --[[User:AliHarlow|AliHarlow]] 19:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:No - you are quite right! I was pretty new to this when I verified and and the entry (unverified) was already there - I should have been more pedantic! I'll submit an edit, thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:08, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks. I added the ISBN (derived from the SBN by adding a leading zero) and added a note about the other prices. --[[User:AliHarlow|AliHarlow]] 13:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 15:33, 22 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Maker of Universes ==<br />
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I added price information and reformatted the notes of {{P|285998|this pub}} that you verified. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Flandry of Terra ==<br />
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Changed the title of one story in [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359151 this]] from 'A Plague of Masters' to 'The Plague of Masters', matching the title page. Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 18:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Petaja's Saga of Lost Earths ==<br />
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I added the Reginald1 number to the notes for Petaja's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28734 Saga of Lost Earths]'' and converted the Worldcat number to a link. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 02:24, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Wyndham's Outward Urge ==<br />
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Please see [[User talk:Bluesman#Wyndham's Outward Urge|this discussion]] regarding the crediting of the stories in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333384 this copy] of Wyndham's ''The Outward Urge''. The discussion mainly stems from an earlier printing, but Bill and Willem as well as yourself have all verified the copy referenced above which has the same issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 01:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I apologize, but [[User:Bluesman|Bill]] deleted my original post. I have re-hosted the discussion on [[User talk:Rtrace|my own talk page]] which explains the original issue about how the stories are credited. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 04:20, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== John Brunner ''Blacklash'' ==<br />
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I have replaced the image for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263008 Blacklash] from Bookscans with a scan from my copy. Same image, but within ISFDB control. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 19:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Make Room! Make Room! ==<br />
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Replaced the Amazon image for {{P|37616|this pub}} that you verified with an ISFDB cover scan. I also added some pub notes.<br />
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On my copy of the book, the prices on the back cover have been obscured: I can barely make out the U.K. price as 35p, and although I can see that there are also prices for Australia and New Zealand, the actual numbers are definitely illegible. It's not terribly important, but if you find the time it would be nice if you could check your book and add the Australian and NZ prices to the pub record. If you do this, there's no need to notify me of the change. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:13, 12 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Best of Harry Harrison ==<br />
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If you find the time, could you please join [[User_talk:Hauck#The_Best_of_Harry_Harrison|this discussion]] about {{P|297348|this pub}} that verified? Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Digits and Dastards ==<br />
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Replaced the Amazon image for {{P|118231|this pub}} that you verified with an ISFDB cover scan. I also added some pub notes. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 22:06, 14 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Something Wicked This Way Comes ==<br />
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Hi, the cover art for your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?428445 Corgi] edition is by Bruce Pennington, see [http://www.brucepennington.co.uk/covers.htm this] Pennington site. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 13:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for that :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:28, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Knights of the Limits ==<br />
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Hello, I've made some alterations to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?120071 this publication], can you confirm that your copy is similar ? Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Hi - yes my copy matches that - including the black rectangles [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Space Movies 'first world edition' ==<br />
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Hi. I'm a secondary verifier for this book you've verified: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430227. I'm going to add a note that this Severn House "first world edition" also has the US price on front flap of the jacket. I'm also going to delete the note that says "Cover refers to this publication as just 'Classic Science Fiction'". I see no evidence of this on the boards or jacket, all of which use "Space Movies" as the sole title or primary title. Hope you're OK with these clean-up edits, and of course feel free to re-edit if any are inconsistent with your copy of the book. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 22:24, 12 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi - I'm happy with that. You misunderstood my note re the cover which MEANT to show it said Spaces Movies with Classic Science Fiction as the secondary title as opposed to Classic Science Fiction Films as on the title page. You edit clears that up and I'm happy with your edits [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Lost Dorsai ==<br />
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Found cover artist for {{P|429233|Lost Dorsai}}, it is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5952 Les Edwards].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 21:52, 17 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Legacy of Heorot ==<br />
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Added the maps to the contents of [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?42993 this]] edition. --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 04:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Introduction: Shortstory vs. Essay ==<br />
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Usually, the introduction to a book is an essay, but your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1748 Aftermath] list its introduction as a fictional short story. Could you check this and, if it really is a short story, add a title note to the Introduction record noting something like "Fictional introduction"? And of course if it actually is an essay, then correct it? Thanks, [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 06:49, 21 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Yes - it is a fictional introduction - have added note to title [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:06, 24 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Science Fiction Review #42 ==<br />
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Hi. I disambiguated "Meanwhile, Back at the Newstand..." in your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?414479 SFR#42]. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 00:50, 3 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Strange World of Planet X ==<br />
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Hey there, just to let you know that I added the OCLC link to the notes of {{T|430064|name=The Strange World of Planet X}} - --[[User:Thync|Thync]] 17:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== A Tupolev Too Far ==<br />
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Added exact publication dates to the [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119401 paperback]] and [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1332 hardcover]] editions. A copy of the paperback which I received over X-mas had review slips for both inside, a pleasant surprise! Plus I get to leave one note instead of two. Cheers --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 22:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Nice one Bill :) Thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Knight with Two Swords ==<br />
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In your verified {{P|45177|The Pendragon Chronicles}}, would you please double check that the Steinbeck story {{T|69475|The Knight with Two Swords}} doesn't have a "the" before the "Two Swords"? I would like to make sure that's accurate before I variant it to the original ({{T|63383|The Knight with the Two Swords}}). Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:43, 18 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi - You are correct and I have made an error. The second "the" in the title is present both in the contents and the story title page. Feel free to correct, or let me know if you would prefer I did it. Sorry! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:25, 19 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Fixed by merging with the correct title. Thanks for checking. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 22:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover art of ''A Plague of Demons'' ==<br />
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Hello. The cover art of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279702 your verified] is identical to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?385199 this one], credited to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?12301 David Lewis] on the bc. Cheers ! [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 11:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC).<br />
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== The Ship Who Sang ==<br />
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Found an artist credit on the back cover of [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308365 this]]. Extremely tiny print, vertical along the spine about 1cm from the bottom. A small crease could obliterate it but your scan looks like you have a nice copy, so should be there! Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 06:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Nope - sure enough that's where a crease is :) Thanks Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 12:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== 'Fission Fragments' in Ad Astra ==<br />
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Dave Langford has been making a few recommendations to tidy up his ISFDB page, and suggests putting the six 'Fission Fragments' articles for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?35606 Ad Astra] into an essay series. Any objections? [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 21:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:No, that's fine by me - seems sensible [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185293 The Days of Glory] ==<br />
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Hi, I found your cover artist, it is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1715577 John Berkey].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 12:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
: I added the price and added to the notes too.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 12:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks Dirk! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:01, 20 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Magazine of Horror ==<br />
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I see you are the PV2 on the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?59457 April] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?59460 August] 1965 issues of Magazine of Horror. I also notice the PV1 appears to be inactive since 2013. Would you have any objection to my adding missing columns ("Introduction" and "It Is Written"), the story excerpts (Coming Next Issue) and some notes to those issues? Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 23:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: That's fine by me Doug - go ahead! Prof [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, Professor - it's done. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 03:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi, again. Being relatively new to this game, I'm still trying to get the hang of the protocols and found out I should notify you of a change in authorship on the above mag. My submission is being held until I notify you. It's explained on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Magazine_of_Horror.2C_April_1965 the help desk]. If you have any questions please ask away. Thanks again. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 07:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::: That's all good with me Doug - well identified! - Make the change.. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Beyond Fantasy Fiction [UK], v1 #2 ==<br />
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Hello, I've expanded notes for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431063 verified issue]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I added other prices to your verified ==<br />
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I added other prices to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429704].[[User:Don Erikson|Don Erikson]] 19:32, 19 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:30, 25 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 26 ==<br />
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Attribution for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251639 This book]. Added the note "Cover art may be Angus McKie attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Halloween Tree ==<br />
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I replaced the artwork for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?226697 this book] with the full wraparound version --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ken Bulmer Stained-Glass World ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?232309 this book]. Comments [https://www.flickr.com/photos/pulpcrush/6845437974/in/photolist- here] suggest the initials are those of Gordon C. Davis. The notes on this edition say that the initials are either indistinct or cut-off and I haven't added this to the notes field to avoid even more confusion. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Stainless Steel Rat Returns ==<br />
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Added cover artist + reference http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429385<br />
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== Beyond the Galactic Rim ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429936 this book]. Cover art is by Peter Elson as seen on his [http://www.peterelson.co.uk/gallery/image.php?cat=10&id=19 website]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Overman Culture ==<br />
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Replaced cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?113981 this book] with full wraparound artwork. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:50, 15 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Carnell New Writings 4 ==<br />
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Replaced cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429028 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Young Magicians ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?345704 this book] with a better version scanned from my own copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Mission of Gravity ==<br />
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Artwork for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?194057 this book] is not by Eddie Jones but by Bruce Pennington. Image on Pennington's Facebook page [https://www.facebook.com/129826343726792/photos/pb.129826343726792.-2207520000.1431700213./874774585898627/?type=3&theatre here]. Have amended the entry accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:40, 15 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Kuldesak ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87367 this book] is by Jim Burns, referenced in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309783 this book]. Record edited accordingly. (edited with correct first link) --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:56, 16 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== At the Edge of the World ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258116 this book] with frull wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Macdonald - Lilith ==<br />
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?292462 this book]. I have replaced the cover with the full wraparound version, added cover artist Gervasio Gallardo as stated under "UK printing December 1971" and the other prices printed on the rear cover. Edit. I noticed a previous discussion about this. Mine has "Adult Fantasy" under a unicorn top right of cover which seems to be indicative of the Pan (Uk) editions. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Mine also has the "adult fantasy" by the unicorn [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Macdonald - Phantastes ==<br />
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Replaced cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179993 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Well at Worlds End 1 & 2 ==<br />
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Replaced cover art for both volumes [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?247429 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430473 here] with full wraparound versions. Note figures on front of Volume 1 correspond with those on the rear of Volume II. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:49, 16 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Dick - Valis ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310869 this book] with full wraparound version. Added note "Cover art may be Chris Moore. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:35, 16 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Divine Invasion ==<br />
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Replaced cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?166441 this book] with full wraparound version. Added note "Cover art may be Chris Moore. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Dr Bloodmoney ==<br />
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Replaced cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230805 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:46, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Game Players of Titan ==<br />
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Added cover art attribution to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?166461 this book]. Art is by Bob Layzell. Referenced in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 this book]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:01, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for these images - I can never get wraparounds to look that good :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Your most welcome. My books are floppy enough that I can open them out flat on a scanner without breaking them. I scanned the entirety of my book collection sometime in the early 2000s. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Beta 2/Empire Star ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281890 this book] is Angus McKie. References on page 46 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?362758 this book]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:14, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Genocides ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?145721 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ruins of Earth ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?190481 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:42, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Again Dangerous Visions 2 ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1763 this book] is Angus Mckie referenced on page 9 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 this book]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deathbird Stories ==<br />
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Replaced cover art of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278049 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Time of the Eye ==<br />
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Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48628 this book] please. My Panther 1974 edition's introduction is dated 13 January 1974. Record has May 1974 as date. Thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:The date on the record is the publication date? The date at the end of the introduction is when Ellison wrote the introduction? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:33, 23 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Dystopian Visions ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?277048 this book] with one that includes the spine as image continues to that point. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Listeners ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429958 this book]. Cover art is almost certainly by Peter Elson but it's not one depicted on his website. Added note and replaced cover with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thrice Born ==<br />
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Cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279770 this book] is Bruce Pennington as confirmed on his Facebook page [https://www.facebook.com/129826343726792/photos/pb.129826343726792.-2207520000.1432671565./904138969628855/?type=3&theatre here]. Record amended accordingly and replaced cover with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Dragon in the Sea ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?387396 this book] with full wraparound version and added notes (1) The number "2483" appears on bottom of spine (2) Other prices A$0.80, NZ$0.75 --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:55, 28 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Best of Frank Herbert 1952-1964 ==<br />
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Added note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178405 this book] "Cover art may be Ray Feibush. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed). Confirmed as not Bruce Pennington." and Australian and New Zealand prices. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 21:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Spaceship Medic ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429434 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Robot who looked like me ==<br />
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Added other prices to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268924 this book]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Menace from Earth ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265495 this book]. I found the cover artist. It's Josh Kirby. Credited in the listing in the back of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19064 this book] and also on [http://ansible.uk/misc/joshlist.html this web page]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Heinlein - Space Family Stone ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?316923 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== More Women of Wonder ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178177 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Orbit 4 ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181449 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:04, 6 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Kornbluth - The Syndic ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429486 this book]. Cover art may be Fred Gambino. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed). Note added. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== A Trace of Memory ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287281 this book] with a better less washed out version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Laumer - The Monitors & Worlds of the Imperium ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189949 Monitors] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429488 Worlds of the Imperium] are by Josh Kirby credited from [http://ansible.uk/misc/joshlist.html this list]. Records amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:34, 9 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Strange Universe ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?33561 this book] with full(er) wraparound version from my ex. library rebound copy (dust wrapper cut & pasted without flaps onto board). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:34, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Asimov - Before The Golden Age (Black Cat) ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304113 this book]. Added cover artist Christian Vankeer as per rear flap of dust wrapper. Title page has "Before The Golden Age (over) Trilogy" not sure if that constitutes revising the title. I'll put it into the notes to be on the safe side. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:This entry was originally put up unverified by someone else. When I verified it I was "very new" to ISFDB and left the title as was. Personally I think the title should be changed to "Before the Golden Age Trilogy"[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:55, 21 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Genius Loci ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15215 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:50, 14 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Starchild Trilogy ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?224917 this book] with full wraparound version and added Australian price to notes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:09, 16 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Dick - Dr. Futurity ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?166291 tthis book] is Nathan Walsh according to a Facebook post [https://www.facebook.com/TheVaultOfRetroScifi.2.0/photos/pb.571600236245173.-2207520000.1434653759./882528245152369/?type=3&theater here]. I have asked poster for the source. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Philip K. Dick covers ==<br />
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Found the cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?192717 Counter-Clock World] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48918 The Turning Wheel]. Geoff Taylor - see [http://www.geofftaylor-artist.com/galleries/cover-art/art/counter-clock-world here] and [http://www.geofftaylor-artist.com/galleries/cover-art/art/turning-wheel-and-other-stories here] respectively. Records amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:37, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Bova - Kinsman ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19575 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:12, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vicinity Cluster ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?53298 this book] is Fred Gambino, cedited in Caldwell's "The Fantastic Planet" Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seventh Galaxy Reader (SFBC) ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?270836 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Venus Plux X (SFBC) ==<br />
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Replaced the "photographed at an angle" cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278669 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:00, 21 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Grain Kings (SFBC) ==<br />
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Added cover artist Chris Foss to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?284918 this book] same artwork as the Hutchinson & Pather editions. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:36, 21 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Secret Songs ==<br />
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Edited the typo "Anthony Edwards" in notes to "Anthony Roberts" for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?112381 this book]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Wanderer ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?109751 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:19, 23 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Star Diaries ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309555 this book]. There is a visible signiature 'TY' in circle but you have to look damn hard to see it - almost blends into the purple under the third 'tooth' to the right. Note edited. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Falling Astronauts ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?200973 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Man Who Awoke ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?112261 this book] is Peter Jones, credited on page 70 of "Solar Wind." Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Clement - Mission of Gravity ==<br />
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Added other prices to notes of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?194057 this book]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== McCaffrey - Restoree ==<br />
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Replaced Amazon cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?126951 this book] with one scanned from my own copy and edited the note about cover artist identifiaction from Pulpcrush's flickr page (yes he is correct in his identification) to "Cover art credited on page 61 of Cowley's 'Spacecraft 2000-2100AD'" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:23, 25 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== All My Sins Remembered ==<br />
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Hi, I found your cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288599 All My Sins Remembered]: Angus McKie. Your cover is only less colo(u)rful than [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?312841 this one], where Angus McKie is credited.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 22:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Flight of the Horse ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308415 this book] is credited to Tony Roberts [http://bearalley.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/larry-niven-cover-gallery-part-2.html here], which seems correct as it's typical Roberts. I'll add a note similar to the one for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?214941 this book]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 21:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Patchwork Girl ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429563 this book] is Peter Elson. The large white rectangle on the back has obscured the 'PE' signature but you can see it on Elson's website [http://www.peterelson.co.uk/gallery/image.php?cat=9&id=212 here]. Record amended accordingly and replaced cover with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Protector ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429587 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Beyond the Blue Event Horizon ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310901 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== In the Problem Pit ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?118141 this book] with full wraparound vertsion. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Davy ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?163511 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Immortality Inc ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269756 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Status Civilization ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265765 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Across a Billion Years ==<br />
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Replaced Amazon cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?123221 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Born with the Dead ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?183517 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Silent Invaders ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?136841 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Real-Time World ==<br />
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Added a note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?191889 this book] viz "Cover art may be Ray Feibush. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed). Not Pennington from info via Pennington's Facebook page." --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== A Choice of Gods ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269241 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Night of (the) Puudley ==<br />
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Added other prices to notes of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?236201 this book]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:01, 3 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Visitors ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251484 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:36, 3 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Starshine ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?118331 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Life, the Universe and Everything'' ==<br />
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Redid cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?108491 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 13:18, 8 July 2015 (UTC).<br />
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== ''So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish'' ==<br />
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Expanded the notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301939 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 13:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC).<br />
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== Far-Out Worlds of A.E. van Vogt ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327633 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:26, 9 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Under Heaven's Bridge ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?150431 this book] is Peter Jones. Confirmed from the artist himself via his Facebook page. I've also replaced the cover with the full wraparound. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:17, 9 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Gene Wolfe's Book of Days ==<br />
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Replaced coiver of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15184 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Damnation Alley ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429809 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame" ==<br />
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Please see [[User talk:Bluesman#Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame"|this discussion]]. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 02:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Also [[User talk:Willem H.#Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame"|this one]] regarding another reprint. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 12:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Starshore, Spring 1991 ==<br />
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Hi Prof!. Regarding your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274662 Starshore Spring 1991], I have disambiguated the essay title "Spindrift ..." to include the magazine title (there were three that were the same in this magazine series). I also set all the title dates to match that of the publication date except for the title "A Mouthful of Gold" by Brunner. [http://www.locusmag.com/index/t407.htm#A21923 Locus1] indicates that this was previously published in "Winter's Tales #27", but a cursory search in the db and the net produced nothing sigificant for me. As a Brunner aficionado, I am hoping that you might be able to shed some light on what that publication is or if this story appeared anywhere else previous to Starshore. Just a couple of other things - In Ann K. Schwader's poem can you verify the title "Vayaging Out", seems like it should be 'Voyaging Out', and for the title "Be a Force for Good", the story length might be novellete as indicated in Locus1. Thanks for checking on these issues. - [[User:Syzygy|Syzygy]] 15:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Hi! I can find no trace of the "Winter's Tales 27" in the usual places - but found this: http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/2nd-january-1982/21/short-stories I will look more into it. The poem should be "Voyaging" - d'oh! "Be a Force for Good" is just 5 pages long? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hah! An annual anthology. Should have thought of that. Knowing what to look for I found [http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/8339342 this] on OCLC. Macmillan published this in 1981, as Locus1 stated. As for "Be a Force for Good", five pages of quarto is about 5-6,000 words. Not enough for novelette, so short story it is. That's about it. Do you want to update this or shall I? Your verification-your call. John - [[User:Syzygy|Syzygy]] 15:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
::: Happy for you to do it [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 16:12, 6 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::: Will do. Thanks for the help. - [[User:Syzygy|Syzygy]] 16:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Shuttered Room and Other Tales of Horror ==<br />
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Please see [[User talk:Willem H.#The Shuttered Room and Other Tales of Horror]]. You are the secondary verifier. Thank you. --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 00:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover artist signature ==<br />
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Isn't there a signature of the cover artist Chris Foss in the middle of the bottom of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427974 ? --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 15:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Not on my copy - mine has an "F" at the bottom left of the back cover [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:47, 22 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover artist for ''Keep the Giraffe Burning'' ==<br />
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Please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Willem_H.#Cover_artist_for_Keep_the_Giraffe_Burning this discussion]. Your opinion is appreciated. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:21, 16 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Missing data in primary verified records ==<br />
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Please add the publication format/binding data missing from the records of publications which you have verified. The publication records are linked in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/cleanup_report.cgi?86 this clean-up report] under your user name. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 19:39, 13 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:All done [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:57, 20 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Voices of Time pub. notes ==<br />
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I adjusted the ul list of of pub notes in your pv1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279285] slightly, I think it makes them a bit easier to read. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 14:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== ''War of the Fang'' ==<br />
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Please check the ISBN given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?538803 this record]. It is identical to the one you gave in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?537168 this record] for another publication. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 06:41, 22 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Oops! Thanks for that - don't know how I managed that! - correction submitted[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:23, 23 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Strength of Stones - pub note ==<br />
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I've added a pub note re artist credit to your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?412169 <I>Strength of Stones</I>], PV1 Bill Longley being no longer with us. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 08:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Douglas Adams' ''Dirk Gently'' ==<br />
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Can you confirm the price given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?412396 this record]? Another editor has a copy of the Pan 1988 printing priced at £2.50. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 18:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Mine says £2.99 for sure. However - although clearly stated as the 1988 printing, mine has a number line indicating it is the fourth printing (9 8 7 6 5 4). (When I PV'd this I was very new to ISFDB) DA's book sold in very large numbers so the £2.50 price is almost certainly an earlier print run [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Although the ''edition'' was published in 1988, your fourth ''printing'' was almost certainly not. It's possible that there were four printings in the first year of publication, but not likely. In cases where the ''printing'' isn't dated (as opposed to the ''edition''), we enter "0000" in the date field to indicate "unknown". I'll correct the record and accept the other editor's submission to represent the first printing of the 1988 edition. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 16:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's absolutely fine - I understand that nowadays, but I was "new" back then :) Much appreciated[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Man-Kzin Wars - pub note ==<br />
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I've added a pub note on pricing to your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?312118<i>The Man-Kzin Wars</I>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 08:13, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Legacy of Heorot - 'Pages'amendment ==<br />
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Do you mind if I change the 'Pages' count in your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?42993<i>The Legacy of Heorot</I>] from "[11]+399+[1]" to "[11]+400", to deal with the last (unnumbered) page of the novel, as outlined in the help pages? Thanks, [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 10:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:That's fine - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Book ToC - page numbers discrepancy ==<br />
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Hi, I've posted a query on the Help Desk notice board, today's date, using the same header as this one. It refers to a page count discrepancy in my copy of your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429704<i>Berserker</i>], which may be of interest to you. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 14:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Galaxy Primes - pub note ==<br />
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I've added a pub note to your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281810<i>The Galaxy Primes</i>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 22:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Amazing Stories [UK], v1 #1 ==<br />
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Hello, I've changed the number of pages from 128 to 132 as per ISFDB usage (that count ALL pages) for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431061 your verified pub]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 11:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Fair enough - probably an oversight, thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Same for v1 #5. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 11:30, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::: Oh well - same batch of acquisitions - must have had an off day or lost the plot - I'm sure I knew that "rule" - thanks again :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Tales from Forbidden Planet'' ==<br />
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Can you confirm the cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?299087 this publication]? Could it be "Bolland" instead of "Boland"? Also, does it have interior illustrations also credited to Bolland? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 03:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:You are right! It is Bolland. Will correct in the next few days It does have interior illustrations - I will add them too.[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== George Mann's By Artifice, Alone ==<br />
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You have verified publications containing George Mann's {{T|1756299|By Artifice, Alone}} and {{T|1928216|By Artifice Alone}}. Would you please check these to see if they are the same story? If so, please variant if the presence/absence of the comma is correct. If they are the same and they should have the same title, please merge under the correct title. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:29, 5 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: They should have both have had the comma - I've sorted it... [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:31, 8 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Aaron Dembski-Bowden / Warhammer ==<br />
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Prof, there are three shortfiction titles in the biblio for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?130607 Aaron Dembski-Bowden] that are not serialised in the 'Warhammer' Universe. They appear in your verified collection [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484941 The Talon of Horus], alongside that Warhammer novel of the same name. Do you know if these three titles are also Warhammer, or are they actually not in that universe? Thanks for checking. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 05:05, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes all the titles in the collection are Warhammer 40,000 universe[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 11:20, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, I've put them in the series, plus the remaining unserialised titles in the author's biblio that were already in unverified publications within the Warhammer series or sub-series. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 13:02, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Clark Ashton Smith's "Genius Loci" ==<br />
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I added a note to your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15215 Genius Loci]. I linked to the image on the cover artist's site and pointed out that his image showed different (lower) prices and suggested it was price change prior to publication. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 17:18, 19 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sounds about right to me [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== New Writings in SF 27 cover credit ==<br />
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User Horzel found the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276452 New Writings in SF 27]. I added the artist and a note about the source. Cheers! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 19:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Roger Zelazny's "Jack of Shadows" ==<br />
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I have replaced the amazon image for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?151821 Jack of Shadows] with a scanned image. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 04:08, 29 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Study War No More ==<br />
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I added the cover artist and a note about the source to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278554 this verified pub]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:47, 9 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== An ABC of Science Fiction ==<br />
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Hi, I've added a note, a better cover scan and a cover artist (Barry Evans, cover is signed, see [https://www.flickr.com/photos/55422932@N06/6352436147/ here]) to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260750 this] publication. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 09:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== John Fey or John Fay ==<br />
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The illustration for the the story Prott in the January 1953 issue of ''Galaxy'' is credited to John Fey in our records, whereas the credit in the magazine is as "John Fay". I'd like to correct this, but I wanted to verify that the credit is also "Fay" in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431025 UK edition] which you have verified. I'd be surprised if it were. Let me know, and I'll correct all the affected records at once. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 01:14, 15 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: It is down as "Fay" in the UK edition too - go ahead and correct it by all means [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:27, 20 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== World Without Men ==<br />
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I've added cover artist Robert A. Osborne to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269106 publication], based on signature RAO. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 13:06, 22 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Left Hand of Darkness ==<br />
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Cover artist Colin Hay of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281921 this] is credited on pages 80 and 96 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?362758+f this] art book. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 09:06, 23 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Added note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281921 your verified], as well as artist's name. Cheers ! [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 19:36, 2 April 2016 (UTC).<br />
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== Primary verified publication without a binding ==<br />
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Please add the pub format/binding to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?564536 this record]. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 19:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Since you've not responded, I tried to look up this publication to add the binding format, and haven't been able to find a current edition for this title. All research has shown that it won't be published until October 2016. Can you confirm that you have a copy and that it is not an advanced copy? If so, please add the binding format. If not, please delete the publication record. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 18:33, 2 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Still waiting for a response. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 02:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: Apologies - I missed this first time. Have edited to show it is hc. Yes I have a copy - not an advance copy. The October date must be for the tp version. Here is the publishers page for my version: http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/eye-of-terra-ebook.html [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:12, 10 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Your source gives the price as £30.00, not the £20.00 you have given. And it doesn't give the publication date (month and year which you give.) Is that stated in the book itself? If not, you must give the secondary source for the date in the Note field. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 08:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::::The link I gave shows "Hardback £20" as far as I can see. I gave the month of publication based on the month it became available (and was purchased) from the publishers site?[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:23, 15 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I guess that being in the US I can only see the US price. If the publication date is not stated in the book, then you must give the source for it in the record's Note field. Please update the record when you get a chance. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 15:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Van Dogen vs Van Dongen ==<br />
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Hi, Your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?358973 Analog Science Fact -> Fiction, February 1962 (UK)] contains a story illustrated by [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?116227 Van Dogen]. The same story in the US counterpart, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?56734 Analog Science Fact -> Fiction, October 1961] is illustrated by [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?1240 Van Dongen]. Could you please check?--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 22:57, 30 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Well spotted - I'm very sorry - a typo on my part, will submit a correction[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible Typos 10-Apr ==<br />
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Here are some possible typos:<br />
* demnds - {{T|1759067|Sergeant Darras demnds to know the building's purpose}} in {{P|463894|The Damnation of Pythos}}<br />
* elelphant - {{T|1656585|The Emerald Elelphant Gambit: Agent of T.E.R.R.A.}} in {{P|431324|Yandro, #173 July 1967}}<br />
* fiidlesticks - {{T|1655165|Fiidlesticks to Widdershins}} in {{P|431028|Australian Science Fiction Review, #9, April 1967}}<br />
Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:47, 10 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks! Will sort them out[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:17, 15 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Unexpected Dimension ==<br />
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I added notes regarding cover art credit and catalog number to {{P|265940|this pub}} that you verified. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Planetkill ==<br />
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Hi, I verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255728 Planetkill] as 2nd verifier and slightly altered your publication note. Instead of "First printed in Great Britain in 2008" i made it "First published in Great Britain in 2008". I also added the complete numberline 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1, and the US and Canada prices.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 23:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Soul Hunter ==<br />
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Hi, I 2nd verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306383 Soul Hunter] and slightly altered your Notes.--~~<br />
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== Blood Angels: Black Tide ==<br />
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Hi, I 2nd verified your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?305084 Black Tide], added periods to the lines in the notes and removed the unneeded <enter> between those lines (as [br] -but then with <>- is used, which automatically gives a line break).--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 12:56, 17 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Night of the Puudly ==<br />
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{{P|236201|This pub}} that you verified. I replaced the Amazon image with a cover scan and revised the pub notes as follows:<br />
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* Replace the terse pub note "NEL reissue after two Four Square printings" with a more detailed list of the printing and publishing history from the copyright page<br />
* Mention the missing cover artist credit<br />
* Mention where prices appear<br />
* Re-format the pub notes into a bullet list<br />
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Other original information in the pub notes was preserved. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 16:53, 17 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Green Hills of Earth ==<br />
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I added a note to {{P|378696|this pub}} that you verified, explaining where the publication date comes from. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:15, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Shores of Space ==<br />
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{{P|400751|This pub}} that you verified: I found the cover artist and added a pub note. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:35, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Best of Sci-Fi ==<br />
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Could you please add your opinion to [[User_talk:Herzbube#The_Best_of_Sci-Fi|this discussion]] on my talk page? Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 02:10, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Galaxies Like Grains of Sand ==<br />
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{{P|199181|This pub}} that you verified: I extensively revised the pub notes, with the aim to retain the original information (of course) but to generally be more explicit what is stated in the book. I also noticed what is probably an error: The pub record currently has "Incentive" as starting on page 97, but in my copy of the book the story starts on page 100. Could you please check your book? Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 13:00, 20 April 2016 (UTC).<br />
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:: [[User_talk:Dirk_P_Broer#Galaxies_Like_Grains_of_Sand|Dirk confirmed]] the page number, so I took the liberty to fix it already. Following Dirk's suggestion, I also changed the publisher from "Granada" to "Panther / Granada". Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 15:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::: All fine with me - thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Encyclopedia of Fantasy ==<br />
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{{P|39187|This pub}} that you verified: I added the publication month from Locus1, and some notes (previously there were no notes at all). I would also like to mention that the pub record had a price of £50 even though there is no price anywhere in the physical book, so I documented the source to be Locus1. Please let me know if anything does not match your book. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:23, 27 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: All matches EXCEPT my dust jacket (inside front flap) states £50.00 retail price [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:26, 29 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: I might have a different printing then. Could you please look up something else? At the bottom of the dust jacket back cover, in the place where normally ISBN and EAN bar code are located, I only have a completely white rectangle with no letters/nummbers/bar code printed inside. How about your book? Thanks for checking, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 14:07, 4 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::: Mine has a white rectangle BUT with the ISBN and EAN bar code printed in it - the rectangle also contains "NOT FOR SALE IN THE USA" [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Great information! I created a {{P|569649|new pub record}} and shifted my verification to that one. I also updated the notes in {{P|39187|your pub record}} with the information you gave me so that it becomes easier to keep the two pub records apart. I hope this time all is in order, but let me know if it is not. Thanks for your help, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Alien Way ==<br />
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Hello, found artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?166101 your verified]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 07:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Worm Ouroboros ==<br />
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I'm adding Barbara Remington's cover credit to all the Ballantine E. R. Eddison editions that need them, including [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430381 this one], with a note that the credit for The Worm Ouroboros comes from her website and that she signed one volume (Mistress of Mistresses) of the uniform edition of four books. [[User:MOHearn|MOHearn]] 14:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:03, 28 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover: Kemlo and the End of Time ==<br />
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I changed the credit for {{T|1908667|Cover: Kemlo and the End of Time}} from "A Bruce Cornwell" (missing period after initial) to "A. Bruce Cornwell". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:38, 28 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:38, 31 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== John Brunner Presents Kipling's Fantasy: Stories by Rudyard Kipling ==<br />
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I have changed my verification on {{P|19584|this pub}} from Primary1 to Transient. You may wish to change your Primary2 to Primary1. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:53, 30 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks - have done so [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:37, 31 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Niven's ''Man-Kzin Wars II'' ==<br />
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Uploaded a better cover scan for our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?MNKZNWRSDB1991 Man-Kzin Wars II]. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 11:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:53, 6 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Inside ● Outside ==<br />
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Please see [[Publication:INSOUTS1979#Title formatting|this discussion]] about your verified {{p|18300|Inside ● Outside}}. --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 19:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Fighting Slave of Gor ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430049 this] is Robin Hiddon, since it's the same art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1806831 L'iceberg rouge]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 22:04, 8 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Missing story in Dark Fantasies record ==<br />
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Hi. I just saw that the record for your primary verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?360633 Dark Fantasies] anthology is missing Lisa Tuttle's story [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?954404 Skin Deep], but the other publication records contain it. Did you probably forget to enter it? Jens [[User:Hitspacebar|Hitspacebar]] 10:40, 19 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks - well spotted - have put in an edit to add it [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: We now had 2 titles called ''Skin Deep'' by Lisa Tuttle in the database after your submission because you added a ''new'' title ''Skin Deep'' to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?360633 Dark Fantasies]. If a title already exists it's a lot easer to use the "Import Content" link on a publication's page and enter the exsiting title's id into the "Individual Titles" field. That would have been "[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?954404 954404]". I made a submission to merge the two ''Skin Deep'' titles. Jens [[User:Hitspacebar|Hitspacebar]] 16:40, 20 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks - sorry I had a dumb moment there - should have known better :) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:43, 26 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Earthman, Go Home ==<br />
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Credited the cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?414971 Earthman, Go Home] to Peter Caras from the initials similar to those used in his full signature elsewhere. [[User:MOHearn|MOHearn]] 02:42, 8 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258596 The Isotope Man] ==<br />
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Hey, I have added the cover artist credit to this book. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 07:44, 11 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Bill, the Galactic Hero ==<br />
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I have a query about the publication date of {{P|288835|Bill, the Galactic Hero}}. The Publication Notes state "Published in Penguin Books May 1969" on copyright page. However my copy just says "Published in Penguin Books 1969". Can you check this and if they are different I will clone the record. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 16:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for this - the pub note on that entry is wrong (I have submitted an edit) - your copy is the same as mine ("May" should not be there) [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:38, 24 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: So, shouldn't the Publication Date be 1969-00-00? Unless there is other evidence which shows the month? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 11:12, 24 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::: I think that came from another reference - I didn't enter that myself but have the references to check - will do so and and add a note [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:43, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Done [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Glory Road ==<br />
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Can you have a look at your copy of {{P|429473|Glory Road}}. My copy has the same information on the copyright page but the front cover has "NEL 2658 FOUR SQUARE" at the top left, whereas the one shown has "NEW ENGLISH LIBRARY" on the top right. Also, the back cover only has UK 7/6, Australia 80c and New Zealand 75c, prices shown, which are different to those in the notes. If they are different then should I create a clone? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 20:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Well spotted! The image (not loaded by me) is of the wrong edition. Can you upload the correct one or would you like me to? I've also noted the error re pricing and will submit an edit for that. This is another one from my first days here and I suspect I didnt read the existing entry well enough! The ISBN is correct, as are the other notes. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: I've updated the Cover Art. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 10:17, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:41, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Menace from Earth ==<br />
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The individual stories in {{P|265495|The Menace from Earth}} do not have page numbers assigned. Would you like me to add them? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 13:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Yes please - many thanks. These entries are from my first days here before I had fully got the hang of things! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: Page numbers added (btw I had an additional query on 'Bill, the Galactic Hero' just above. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 10:22, 26 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Amazing Stories, February 1964 ==<br />
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I added two letters to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?56343 Amazing Stories, February 1964] by [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?15258 Billy Wolfenbarger] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?12212 Jay Kay Klein]. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 00:34, 3 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Simak's ''The Autumn Land and Other Stories'' ==<br />
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Added overseas cover prices to our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?317226 verified pub]. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 03:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Pohl's ''Day Million'' ==<br />
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Added overseas cover prices to our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9279 Day Million]. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 20:29, 8 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:04, 13 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Ad Astra Issue Thirteen ==<br />
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I have added the cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431680 this issue] and adjusted the note pertaining to it. [[User:Syzygy|Syzygy]] 14:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 14:16, 25 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Wolf of Ash and Fire ==<br />
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In your verified {{P|564536|Eye of Terra}}, would you mind double checking the first story does not have a "The" (i.e. "The Wolf of Ash and Fire" vs. "Wolf of Ash and Fire"). The publisher's webpage lists it with a "The". I would like to make sure before I variant an alternate publications that does contain the "The". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 22:56, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Well spotted - I have made an error "The" should be present - I'd be happy for you to correct this if you wish - or I'll do it myself? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I have merged the two records under the 'The' version. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 22:55, 11 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Green Hills of Earth ==<br />
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HI, I've imported content for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?378696 The Green Hills of Earth].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 00:52, 23 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:57, 2 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Assignment In Eternity ==<br />
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Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3242 Assignment In Eternity].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 12:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:57, 2 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Fearn's ''Conquest of the Amazon'' ==<br />
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Added the Foreword to our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404227 verified pub]. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 15:48, 24 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:58, 2 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Orbit 3/Three ==<br />
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Hi, I slightly expanded the notes for our verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?259682 Orbit Three].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 10:32, 1 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Best from F&SF Third Series. ==<br />
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I'm adding the poem on page 256 that we missed in ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35704 The Best from Fantasy and Science Fiction, Third Series]''. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 00:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Beyond the Galactic Rim ==<br />
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Hello, can you have a look at the bc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429936 this pub] to see what australian price it bears? Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Mine says $4.95 [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:29, 6 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, the record has been corrected (we all have $4.95). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:48, 6 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Wanderer ==<br />
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The Cover Artist for {{P|109751|The Wanderer}} should not be identified as <I>Franco Grignani</I> as he is only credited on the back cover as the designer not the illustrator. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 17:00, 22 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== "The Horla" in ''The Vampire'' (1965) ==<br />
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Long story, not so long request! As I'm sure you know, back in the early days of the DB, different translations of the same story weren't separated out into different title records. That's the practice now, though, meaning a whole lot of slow revision of previous work... I am trying to identify the translators for Guy de Maupassant's "The Horla" -- at least twelve to date, not all with publications in the DB. The editors of ''Blood and Roses: The Vampire in 19th Century Literature'' (1993) credit the version they print to Marjorie Laurie. However, it actually isn't the same text as what Everyman's Library have been crediting to Laurie since 1934; one of these editions is mistaken, and I'm inclined to think it's the recent one. Now, on the basis of a comment in a thesis I found while searching the web, I believe that the same translation, with the same attribution, was used in ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?389771 The Vampire]'', edited by Ornella Volta and Valeria Riva. Would you please confirm that, since you verified the publication? One of the last pages of the story will contain the more-or-less exact wording "...with it came a shudder, a shudder of fear. The birds awoke. A dog began to howl. It was like sunrise. Presently two other windows fell out, and I could see that the whole lower storey of my house was nothing less than a raging furnace. Then a horrible shrill shriek rent the air..." If it's the same, please tell me what the entire first paragraph of the story is-- that's what I'm chiefly using to compare translations, and I couldn't get it from the Google Books snippet view of ''Blood & Roses''. So anyway, if the translator is misidentified again in ''The Vampire'', that doesn't get us any closer to knowing who really did the work, but it does help in grouping translated records together. <br />
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You also verified ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189825 H. P. Lovecraft's Book of Horror]''. The translation in that anthology is (I'm almost entirely certain) one first published in 1903, which you can see [https://books.google.com/books?id=hclJAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false here]; I would appreciate you checking if there's any mention of the translator's name in the anthology, although this translation is generally published uncredited. Also, does the title at the head of the story have a subtitle: "The Horla, or Modern Ghosts" (so this version is often called). <br />
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Thanks very much for the help! --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 22:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:My copy attributes the translation to Marjorie Laurie. Section towards the end is as you give. First paragraph: "What a glorious day! I have spent the whole morning lying on the lawn in front of my house, under the spreading tree which shelters and shades it entirely. I love this country-side, where I have my roots, those deep-searching, delicate fibres, which attach a man to the land where his ancestors were born and died, which link him to the local ways of thought, local diet, local idioms, to the intonations of the country-folk, to the odours of the soil, the village, and very atmosphere."<br />
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:In the second book there is no attribution of the translation and the title has no subtitle. Hope this helps. [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:46, 24 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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So... back to report that I've solved this mystery. Having finally looked at a copy of the Everyman edition, which states on the title page that it is translated by Marjorie Laurie, I find that only "The Horla" has a different translator, Brian Rhys. So in fact, it isn't a problem that the text which Volta & Riva attribute to Laurie is different from the Everyman text. I've changed the note on your edition. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 18:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Great Science Fiction Adventures ==<br />
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I added pub month with explanatory pub note to your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15923. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 23:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The View from the Stars ==<br />
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Can you please check the list of other prices on the back cover of {{P|435989|The View from the Stars}}. My copy has the New Zealand price as (6/6) 65c. If your verified record is correct then I'll create a clone for my copy. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 11:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: You are right! Thanks for spotting that - it is indeed 65C. Feel free to correct it. 09:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== "Virtue of the Sons" vs. "Virtues of the Sons" ==<br />
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When you have a moment, could you please check if [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1789572 "Virtue of the Sons"] in your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?488175 ''Death and Defiance''] is the same as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1963689 "Virtues of the Sons'] in your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?557598 ''War Without End'']? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 20:28, 11 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: My error I'm afraid - it should be "Virtues" in both cases. Will you correct? Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:21, 18 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Corrected and merged. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
::: Thanks! [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Barsoom Project ==<br />
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I've added the Printing History, Cover Artist source and other prices to the Notes of {{P|35533|The Barsoom Project}}. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 15:13, 3 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Year of the Unicorn ==<br />
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I've added the source of the Cover Artist to {{P|260367|Year of the Unicorn}}. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 13:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Search the Sky ==<br />
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Added the source of the Cover Designer to {{P|117771|Search the Sky}}. I've also replaced the Cover with a scan of my copy (not so used). --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 16:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Carnacki, the Ghost-Finder ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369636 this] is Peter Goodfellow, as can be seen [http://petergoodfellow.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/18-misc2 here]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 12:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Dark Voices #4 ==<br />
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Added a slight amount of content to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260519 Dark Voices #4]. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 04:54, 9 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Sentinels from Space ==<br />
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Updated {{P|29587|Sentinels from Space}} with Printing History and source of Cover Artist. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 12:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== 'Gave Thorpe' ==<br />
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Hi! Shouldn't [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1914465 this item] be credited to Gav Thorpe (could you please check)? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:13, 24 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: There is no credit for the editor in my copy[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:11, 3 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Arlan Andrews, Sr. ==<br />
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I am changing the canonical name for Arlan Andrews, Sr.; this will affect some verified pubs of yours, such as issues of ''Analog''. [[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 15:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment ==<br />
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Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.<br />
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Firstly, there's ''Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural'' (verified copies: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?517709 (1)], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289442 (2)], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?415777 (3)], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?435921 (4)], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?366609 (5)], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?446362 (6)], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?577863 (7)]), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:<br />
* "Taboo" by Geoffrey Household - An eastern European community is terrorized by a series of murders. The mystery is solved, but the terror, and other psychological effects, linger on. Non-supernatural - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?249393 Stories for the Dead of Night]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?190685 The Penguin Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359537 The Dark of the Soul]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451254 The Second Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253539 Stories for the Dead of Night]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375537 Griezelverhalen 2]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516539 Van Lichtelijk Luguber tot Meedogenloos Macaber]<br />
* "A Rose for Emily" by William Faulkner - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rose_for_Emily#Plot_summary SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?611464 Fireside Reader]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?333722 Classic Tales of Horror and the Supernatural]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37873 The Dark Descent]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?205381 The Dark Descent]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?191317 The Arbor House Treasury of Horror and the Supernatural]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293237 The Arbor House Treasury of Horror and the Supernatural]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?413748 The Lucifer Society]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439545 The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?196813 The Medusa in the Shield]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359245 The Giant Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?591258 The Oxford Book of Gothic Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?43731 American Gothic Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?2399 American Gothic Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472269 The Golden Argosy]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?403273 Vóór Middernacht: De Beste Griezelverhalen]<br />
* "A Terribly Strange Bed" by Wilkie Collins - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Terribly_Strange_Bed SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369520 Tales of Terror and the Supernatural]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?368071 Tales of Terror and the Supernatural]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326642 Basil Rathbone Selects Strange Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326754 Basil Rathbone Selects Strange Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294185 Tales of Terror and Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233089 Tales of Terror and Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?306036 Nightfrights]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?517776 Nightfrights]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?611464 Fireside Reader]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?386608 Adventure Stories for Girls]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369352 Horror by Lamplight]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346979 The Wordsworth Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189037 Mad Monkton and Other Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?611464 Fireside Reader]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?413840 Masterpieces of Mystery in Four Volumes]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18059 In the Grip of Terror]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514839 Van Edgar Allan Poe tot Roald Dahl]<br />
* "The Three Strangers" by Thomas Hardy - [http://klasikfanda.blogspot.com/2012/07/short-story-three-strangers-by-thomas.html SUMMARY] - http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?472269 The Golden Argosy]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?424385 Tellers of Tales]<br />
* "Leiningen Versus the Ants" by Carl Stephenson - A lurid and much exaggerated account of army ants, but not intended to be taken as speculative, I feel sure - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?190685 The Penguin Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?451254 The Second Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?383522 The Big Book of Adventure Stories]<br />
* "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell -[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Dangerous_Game SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?558649 Early September]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416364 Psychos]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302214 The Ghouls]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?291549 The Ghouls]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?512071 Alfred Hitchcock's Spellbinders in Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?394763 Stories and Storytellers]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573152 Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23955 Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?383522 The Big Book of Adventure Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375279 Verhalen die Hitchcock Koos]<br />
* "Lamb to the Slaughter" by Roald Dahl - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_to_the_Slaughter#Plot_summary SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176041 Someone Like You (Dell)]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?322881 Lamb to the Slaughter and Other Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?480807 Tales of the Unexpected]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?471509 Someone Like You (Livre de Poche)]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?537122 Rakkaani, kyyhkyläiseni / Joku kaltaisesi]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?533499 Lammkeule und andere Geschichten]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?371205 M'n Liefje, M'n Duifje]<br />
* "Contents of the Dead Man's Pockets" by Jack Finney - [http://www.elacommoncorelessonplans.com/contents-of-the-dead-mans-pocket-lesson-plans-summary-analysis.html SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180273 The Third Level]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258702 The Clock of Time]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258701 The Clock of Time]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301201 Stories of Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?33359 Stories of Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439201 The Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301712 The First Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?573152 Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23955 Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375537 Griezelverhalen 2]<br />
* "Two Bottles of Relish" by Lord Dunsany - One of Dunsany's few non-speculative crime stories. [https://cgrishikesh.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/lord-dunsany-two-bottles-of-relish/ SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?64784 In the Land of Time and Other Fantasy Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?588045 In the Land of Time and Other Fantasy Tales]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17298 Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17297 Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444547 Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257830 Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?49073 The Unexpected]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9463 Death]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344994 Masterpieces of Horror]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251144 Owls' Watch]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34443 Tall Short Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301201 Stories of Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?33359 Stories of Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439545 The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [Stories for the Dead of Night http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?249393]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?253539 Stories for the Dead of Night]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?190685 The Penguin Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?503597 Nacht en Ontij]<br />
* "A Note for the Milkman" by Sidney Carroll - [https://tentoinfinity.com/2013/06/05/a-note-for-the-milkman-by-sidney-carroll/ SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439545 The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?51648 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193021 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193049 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251425 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180161 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251424 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251426 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263437 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?444141 Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?503597 Nacht en Ontij]<br />
* "The Cone" by H. G. Wells - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cone SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304364 Tales of Life and Adventure]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?574053 Tales of Life and Adventure]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439345 Tales of Life and Adventure]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?495929 A Harvest of Horrors]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288845 The Time Machine: An Invention and Other Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?360304 Human and Inhuman Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?426598 Human and Inhuman Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?426599 Human and Inhuman Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?331258 Selected Short Stories of H. G. Wells]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?524428 Selected Short Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?285926 Selected Short Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?352106 Selected Short Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338206 Complete Short Story Omnibus]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37475 The Cone]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?575308 Works of H. G. Wells]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420004 The Country of the Blind and Other Selected Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?439545 The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404370 Der gestohlene Bazillus und andere Geschichten]<br />
* "The Lodger" by Marie Belloc Lowndes - [https://margotkinberg.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/in-the-spotlight-marie-bellocc-lowndes-the-lodger/ SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18836 Jack the Knife]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27604 Red Jack]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233089 Tales of Terror and Suspense]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294185 Tales of Terror and Suspense]; <br />
* "The Terrapin" by Patricia Highsmith - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terrapin SUMMARY] - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?190685 The Penguin Book of Horror Stories]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301711 The Twelfth Pan Book of Horror Stories]<br />
Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? [[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 15:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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ADDENDUM: Discussion moved to the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Nongenre_stories:_attempt_at_a_roundup Community Portal]. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 01:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Jack of Shadows ==<br />
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Added the Printing History to {{P|151821|Jack of Shadows}}. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 14:48, 30 June 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== A Plague of Demons ==<br />
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Hello, the real artist has been found for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279702 this pub]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 05:16, 14 July 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Beasts of Gor ==<br />
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Hi, the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430051 this] is Walter Wyles, see [http://todaysinspiration.blogspot.nl/2009/10/walter-wyles-something-out-of-ordinary.html Todaysinspiration blog]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 11:05, 31 July 2017 (EDT)<br />
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:Feel free to update - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 04:51, 31 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Fighting Slave of Gor ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430049 this] is Robin Hiddon, same cover art as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?417221 L'iceberg rouge]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 11:11, 31 July 2017 (EDT)<br />
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:Feel free to update - thanks[[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 04:52, 31 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== ''Dark Voices 2'' cover art ==<br />
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Hello. Concerning the cover art of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35580 these pubs], my copy clearly indicates on bc "Cover illustration by Marshall Arisman". Do you confirm the name of Dave Carson (whose style is utterly different) on yours ? In this case, there seems to be a slight problem ! Thanks, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:26, 11 August 2017 (EDT).<br />
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:This is entirely my error - the TITLE PAGE is Carson - the cover is not credited on my copy [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 04:49, 31 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== The Starry Rift ==<br />
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Hi, I changed the page count from 256 to 250 and added the short story [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?969792 At the Library] that appears at pages 248-250 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179481 The Starry Rift].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 11:39, 11 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Rings of Ice ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for {{P|161591|Rings of Ice}}. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 08:16, 18 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Var the Stick ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for {{P|203173|Var the Stick}} (added statement about Corgi edition and Copyright statement). The OCLC number listed is for a 1975 edition by Transworld Publishers. There seem to be a number of records for this edition in WorldCat e.g. 877355538, which gives the ISBN and lists Corgi as the publisher. Should this be the link? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 10:36, 19 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Vicinity Cluster ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for {{P|53298|Vicinity Cluster}}. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 11:56, 19 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?412396 Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency] and added the price in New Zealand. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 17:00, 24 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Spectrum IV ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for {{P|214065|Spectrum IV}} and added other prices. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 17:25, 29 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== The High Crusade ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for {{P|280646|The High Crusade}}. Added the New Zealand price. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 09:19, 30 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== The Star Fox ==<br />
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Added the Printing History to {{P|321219|The Star Fox}} and replaced the (slightly tired) Cover Art with a scan of my copy. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 13:48, 30 August 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== The Wind from Nowhere ==<br />
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Updated the Printing History for {{P|284031|The Wind from Nowhere}}, added the source of the cover artist and moved the OCLC. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 08:14, 5 September 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Tiger! Tiger! ==<br />
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Added the Printing History and the source of the cover artist to {{P|120641| Tiger! Tiger! }}. Moved the OCLC. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 11:55, 6 September 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Traveller in Black ==<br />
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Hi, I've imported content for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?336623 Traveller in Black].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 17:52, 24 September 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== Earthman, Come Home ==<br />
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{{P|229485|Earthman, Come Home}}: the ID on the front cover is “2205-8” (at the top left under the Mayflower Dell logo). On the spine it is 2205 (over) 8. Should the Catalog ID be changed to match this? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 17:28, 26 October 2017 (EDT)<br />
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== "The Hitchhiker" ==<br />
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I am marking Roald Dahl's story "The Hitchhiker" non-genre which affects your verified publication ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?291012 Death on Wheels]''. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 16:24, 5 November 2017 (EST)<br />
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== Dangerous Visions 2 ==<br />
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Replaced Amazon cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?114141 Dangerous Vision 2] with one from my own collection --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:09, 10 November 2017 (EST)<br />
: Thanks [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 06:35, 28 December 2017 (EST)<br />
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== Ahead of Time ==<br />
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Hi, the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?200977 this] is René Magritte, see [https://www.masterworksfineart.com/artist/rene-magritte/le-bouquet-tout-fait-the-ready-made-bouquet-3/ this gallery] ("The Ready-Made Bouquet"). I found a different version in a book about Magritte. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 11:22, 21 November 2017 (EST)</div>Prof beardhttps://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Prof_beard&diff=490922User talk:Prof beard2017-08-31T08:52:04Z<p>Prof beard: /* Fighting Slave of Gor */</p>
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== Title formatting ==<br />
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* The front and back covers has "Inside-Outside".<br />
* The title page and spine have "Inside &#x25CF; Outside".<br />
It seems from [[Template:PublicationFields:Title]] that this record's title should be "Inside &#x25CF; Outside" but I'm suggesting that we use "Inside-Outside" as most people will not enter a &#x2022; or &#x25CF; plus the issue on if the bullet or black circle has spaces around it when searching for a title.<br />
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We also have the option to ignore the usual rules and to stick with "Inside Outside". PJF uses "Inside Outside" on his web site for example.<sup>[http://www.pjfarmer.com/books.htm#inside]</sup> With the exception of the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?284223 Corgi edition] most publishers have dealt with it by formatting the title as "Inside" over "Outside" which I suspect we should have been entering as "Inside / Outside". --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 19:04, 7 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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<div>[[User talk:Herzbube/Archive|Archive of old topics]]<br />
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'''<font color="red">Notice:</font>''' Sometimes I am gone from ISFDB for months, so please don't take it personally if I seem to ignore your message. If you require an answer I will respond as soon as I come back, usually on your own talk page if more than a few days have elapsed since you left the message, since I assume that your endurance for checking my talk page will run out after a week or so :-) Thank you, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Updated Riftwar maps conversation ==<br />
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Patrick, just in case you didn't notice, I answered your [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:AndonSage#Maps_of_Midkemia.2C_Kelewan_and_Novindus Riftwar maps questions] on my talk page. Gary — [[User:AndonSage|AndonSage]] 22:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== The Great Book of Amber ==<br />
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Added new cover image for this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?353953 pub]. [[User:BarDenis|BarDenis]] 16:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Sirius: A Fantasy of Love and Discord ==<br />
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Hi, I've found a scan for {{P|215465|Sirius: A Fantasy of Love and Discord (Penguin, 1964)}}. It is not of very high quality, so when you have a better scan, please feel free to replace it.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 10:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks to your cover scan I noticed that my copy of the book has a different price than the pub record you updated. I'm going to clone the pub and un-verify the original.<br />
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== In the Problem Pit ==<br />
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Hi, I just added cover artist Eddie Jones to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18113 this] publication. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:22, 25 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Excellent find, thank you. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Survival Kit ==<br />
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Just added cover artist Colin Hay to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?118161 Survival Kit (Panther 1979)]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Another good find, thanks. I also updated the artist record with the website from the pub notes. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Nebula Awards 10 ==<br />
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Just added cover artist Tony Roberts to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?175081 this] Corgi 1977 publication. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 14:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Very good. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== DAW Collectors publication series ==<br />
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In filling out the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?1544 DAW Collectors Books] publication series, I have a question about a book that you verified. C. J. Cherryh's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351944 The Faded Sun], 21st printing, has a note with the "DAW Collector's Number". Since many reprint editions didn't actually list this number, I was hoping you could tell me whether this note was "inherited" from other editions of the book, or whether it actually appears on this edition of the book, and if so, where -- e.g. on the cover, the spine, or the copyright page. Thanks much, [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 20:30, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: See my response on [[User_talk:Chavey#Your_question_about_.22The_Faded_Sun.22_on_my_talk_page|Chavey's talk page]]. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Tik-Tok ==<br />
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Added cover artist for Chris Moore to {{P|199553|Tik-Tok}} by John Sladek, same as with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?334584 this edition].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 12:49, 12 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Looks good. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Appendix IV: The Almanak en-Ashraf (Dune) ==<br />
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I think the title as given in some records ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1053084 The Almanaken-Ashraf]) is an error, and has been perpetuated by cloning. Before making the content record in your verified pub into a variant, I would suggest first asking those editors who have verified the other title to re-check their copies. I'll hold the submission until you've had a chance to do this. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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And the same situation with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1053086 this title record]. I'm holding the submission to make a variant. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:21, 28 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: OK, I have dropped corresponding notes to [[User_talk:AndonSage#Spelling_differences_in_Dune_appendix_titles|AndonSage]] and [[User_talk:Nimravus#Spelling_differences_in_Dune_appendix_titles|Nimravus]], I hope the latter will become active again in a few days. BTW: [[User_talk:DESiegel60#Dune_Appendix_titles|DESiegel60]] has not answered a similar request that I wrote in May 2011 - do you know whether this particular editor has definitely left the project? Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:58, 28 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::He's in and out. His last contributions were in July 2012, but he seemed to have missed your message. (You can click on "User Contributions" to see when they last time they edited the wiki.) I'm going to go ahead and merge the titles under the names in your copy. Hopefully, they'll confirm this if they ever respond. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::: OK, thanks, I will let the others know what happened. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== LOA ed. of Kurt Vonnegut ==<br />
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I accepted the submission to create [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401391 this record] and removed the other titles. But a question: the book is credited to "Kurt Vonnegut", but the contents are credited to "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr." Ordinarily they would match. Do the contents give individual credit on their title pages that is different than the book's title page? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: You are right, of course, it should always be "Kurt Vonnegut". "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr." only appears on the copyright page. I will fix this ASAP. Thanks for catching me, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:35, 30 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Assassin's Quest'' ==<br />
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I think you meant to remove some of the notes in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401485 this record]. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:20, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
: Fixed. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Brooks' ''The Tangle Box'' ==<br />
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You attribute cover art credit for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401615 this record] to a record which is also uncredited. I would suggest giving the source as just [http://www.locusmag.com/index/b70.htm#A837.69 Locus1] (don't link to it in the notes, that database has floating anchors.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Pub record has been updated. Thanks for the hint regarding Locus1, I should really try to use it more... Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 16:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== A Transatlantic Tunnel, Hurrah! by Harry Harrison ==<br />
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Uploaded new (wraparound) cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207465 A Transatlantic Tunnel, Hurrah! by Harry Harrison] [[User:BarDenis|Denis]] 18:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Perfect match. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:08, 3 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Elven Star'' ==<br />
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Is the poem you added to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12143 this record] on a numbered page? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:39, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: You're right of course, I meant to enter the number with brackets. Once again, thanks for the catch! Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Also you should add the unnumbered pages to the page count field, e.g. "367+[50]". And do the same with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264194 this record], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?402866 this one], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29611 this one]. (I'm assuming that the excerpts appear on unnumbered pages.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:44, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Done. I must say, though, that I have ''never'' done this before in any other book that I verified. I only use the "+" notation to record Roman numeral pages. I just had a look at the [[Help:Screen:EditPub#Pages|EditPub help page]] where it says "you may", so I hope my guilt is not too severe... Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::If you don't add "excerpts" (read: advertisements, IMO), then there's no need to add the extra pages to a record. (That's the optional part). But if you create content records for these promotional pieces on unnumbered pages, you should indicate those pages as well in the record's page count field. Otherwise a user might think you've added them already to the record. By bracketing the numbers, you're telling the db user that there are unnumbered pages in the book for which you've created content records. (Don't do this for real advertising, only for these teasers.) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::: That makes sense. Thanks for the information, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Hands of Choas'' ==<br />
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Is the excerpt in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?402852 this record] on an unnumbered page, as the page count indicates? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: It's on an unnumbered page, I have updated the pub record. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Smith's ''The Rediscovery of Man'' ==<br />
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Please re-check the ISBN given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404521 this record]. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:42, 1 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: As of late, it seems I have become a bit of a fast typer :-( Anyway, it's corrected now. BTW, I would have caught this myself since I always have another look at a new pub record after the submission is accepted, and a wrong ISBN is clearly marked up. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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A question about the page numbering of the Timeline: bracketing usually indicates that the work appears on unnumbered pages within a range of unnumbered pages. If the range of pages on which the work appears is roman-numeraled, you don't add brackets to the page number, regardless of whether there is an actual roman numeral on the page. For example, if a work appears immediately after page "v", you can interpolate that the page number is "vi" and enter that into the record. Just as you would if a story appears on an unnumbered page within the body of the book but whose number can be derived by counting forward (or backward) from the nearest numbered page. Hope this makes sense. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: I am not convinced that your reasoning applies here (see the next paragraph), but since it's such a minor detail I don't want to argue too long over this concrete case and simply have fixed the pub record to not use brackets, explaining the situation with a pub note (pub notes are ''such'' a life saver :-)).<br />
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: So why am I not convinced? First of all, [[Help:Screen:EditPub#Page|the EditPub help screen]] (my rule goddess :-)) says quite clearly that one should use brackets whenever the page is not actually numbered. Nevertheless, it makes sense to me to not use brackets for unnumbered pages that are "sandwiched" between numbered pages. I am getting real fuzzy, though, when it comes to unnumbered pages that appear before or after a range of numbered pages. I prefer to use brackets when the unnumbered page is in the introductory section of a book (the Timeline case we are discussing above), but when the unnumbered page appears right after the main text I have been known not to use brackets. Remembering my rule goddess, I usually go for brackets. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Rocannon's world ==<br />
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Hello, I've approved your cloning, it seems that the artist is "Leonard" see on the right wing of the beast. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 11:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Fix is in the queue, thank you very much. I know that I need a better light on my desk. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:26, 2 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Malacia Tapestry'' ==<br />
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Based on your notes, the author credit of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43676 this record] should be corrected. The pub will also have to be unmerged from its title record and then the new title record should be made into a variant of the original title record. Let me know if you need instructions on how this is done. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:45, 7 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Although this is my first unmerge, I believe I will manage by just following the help pages. I hope it's OK to submit the unmerge while the pub record change is still pending. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::If it's another submission to update the same pub record, you have to wait until a queued submission has been handled. In this case, unmerging a pub from a title record has no effect on any pending updates to the pub record. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:14, 7 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::: If my understanding is correct, the unmerge simply operates on whatever data it finds in the pub record at the time it is approved. So all that is required is that the moderator accepts the pub change first, and the unmerge second. [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 18:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::::There's no conflict, because one submission involves the publication record, the other one involves the title record. So it doesn't matter which order you make the submissions or which order they are approved by the moderator. Now if two submissions involve the same title record or the same publication record, there may be a conflict. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:::Anyway, that went well. Thanks for the initial hint about the unmerge. Now doing the interiorart merges... Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 18:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Non-Stop'' ==<br />
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Please recheck the printing number of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405050 this record]. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:46, 8 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: I pinged Michael on his talk page because it's been such a long time since he asked the question. It seems that the printing number is OK. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 22:04, 11 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== "The Yiddish Policemen's Union", by Michael Chabon ==<br />
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You verified a [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301365 third printing of this book]. Since then, the link to the cover image appears to have broken. I replaced it with another likely candidate for the cover image. However, Amazon also has a [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51bho2K3nVL.jpg slightly different version] of this book cover. If you have the chance, please look at this and see which cover is the one that belongs with your book. Thanks, [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 22:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for pointing out the broken link. However, neither of the two images (the one you link to, and the one currently on the pub record) is the correct one. The cover on my book has the headline "NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER" and sports a badge in the lower-right corner with the text "BONUS MATERIAL INCLUDED". Luckily I found the correct image on images.amazon.com and updated the pub record accordingly. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::We have found that Amazon image files with "LZZZZZZZ" in the URL are not stable, so I rejected the submission to link it. I was able to find one which appears to match the image you describe and linked it to the record. Is it correct? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Yes, that's the correct cover, thanks. Thanks also for the information about unstable "LZZZZZZZ" URLs, I will refrain from using those in the future. I would like to point out, though, that the [[Help:Screen:EditPub#Image_URL|EditPub help page]] still mentions "LZZZZZZZ" URLs. Since submissions with such URLs are now rejected, wouldn't it be advisable to also change the help page to point out that "LZZZZZZZ" URLs shouldn't be used at all? Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 22:00, 11 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Dispossessed question ==<br />
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Hi -- I'm not on ISFDB much so sorry about my slowness in responding. It's been years since I've been active in editing the ISFDB and I no longer remember much about the mechanics. I looked through your notes on my talk page and would suggest you go ahead with whatever is best in your judgement. I have no memory of the verification I did -- sorry. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] [[User_talk:Mike Christie|(talk)]] 17:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: Mike's pub record seems to be gone after 1.5 years, so there's no point in editing that anymore. Regarding the issue of whether Chris Moore or Jim Burns is the cover artist: After extensive googling I now believe that Chris Moore is the actual artist and that my original conclusion - namely that the publisher corrected a mistake when they changed the cover art attribution to Jim Burns in a later printing - was wrong. I updated my own {{P|404674|pub record}} accordingly. Ron's {{P|289330|pub record}} already has the correct information in its pub notes. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Witch Fantastic'' cover ==<br />
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[[User:Ofearna]] replaced the Amazon cover of your 2-verified {{P|54976|Witch Fantastic}} with a scan. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 22:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Fire Sea ==<br />
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Re: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264194 Fire Sea] Replacing Amazon image with one showing correct pricing scanned from personal collection.--[[User:Astromath|Astromath]] 20:48, 22 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Serpent Mage ==<br />
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Re: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29611 Serpent Mage] Replacing Amazon image with one of higher quality scanned from personal collection.--[[User:Astromath|Astromath]] 21:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== '''''The Silmarillion''''' ==<br />
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I have been asked to start a discussion as to whether or not J. R. R. Tolkien's '''''The Silmarillion''''' should be considered a collection or a novel with multiple parts. I haven't read this book, I just listed a French translation of this book on this site. Still, it looks like a collection to me. Please enter this discussion [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#The_Silmarillion here] and weigh in on the subject. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: In the meantime, the discussion has been archived [[ISFDB:Community_Portal/Archive/Archive29#The_Silmarillion|here]]. The discussion was short, and apparently did not lead to any action, since the title and all publications are still NOVELs. I believe that the discussion was worthwile and the Silmarillion should indeed be changed into a collection ([https://wiki.herzbube.ch/index.php/ISFDB#The_Silmarillion external link to my thoughts], it's in the "COLLECTION or NOVEL?" part of the TODO list), therefore I will probably bring up the subject again, but later™, when I actually have the time to turn any decisions made into real action. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 14:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''A Romance of the Equator'' ==<br />
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Dirk_P_Broer changed the title of your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?173981 pv2ed publication] ,see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Dirk_P_Broer#A_Romance_of_the_Equator here]. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:23, 3 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Good catch, thanks. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Complete Stories of Ambrose Bierce'' ==<br />
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Can you confirm that there is an ISBN-13 stated in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?352158 this 1984 publication]? If not, please update the record, changing the ISBN to the one stated there. If so, then the publication date given in the record is incorrect. Thanks for looking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:37, 23 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: The book indeed has an ISBN-13. I removed the publication date from the record and added a note. The record also had an ISBN-9, so I changed that back to the ISBN-13. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Pohl & Kornbluth's ''The Space Merchants'' ==<br />
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If your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301355 this publication] has a stated ISBN-13, it can not have been published in 2003 (the ISBN-13 didn't go into effect until 2005). I would suggest zeroing out the date to indicate that the record is not dated (publishers often give the date of the first printing, and use a number line to indicate subsequent printings without giving the printing date.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 03:01, 23 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I've made the changes that Michael suggested and expanded the existing note about the date. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 12:23, 25 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: OK, thanks. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Grass'' ==<br />
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I've added a cover scan and a brief note about the SF Masterworks (II) series to your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?400972 verified pub]. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 07:54, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: The cover image currently on the pub record does not match my book. The current cover image contains the vertically written word "MASTERWORKS" below the "SF" badge in the upper-left corner. My copy of the book does not have "MASTERWORKS", it only has the "SF" badge. Discussion taken to Pete's talk page. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Cover art for Ursula Le Guin's The Dispossessed ==<br />
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Please see [[User talk:Rtrace#Cover art for Ursula Le Guin's The Dispossessed|this discussion]] regarding the note about the cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404674|your printing] of ''The Dispossessed''. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 00:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for the note, I've updated the pub record for my printing accordingly. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''I Am Legend'' ==<br />
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I have moved your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304707 verified 2010 edition] from the 'Millennium/Gollancz SF Masterworks' series to the correct 'Gollancz SF Masterworks (II)' series. Only the Masterworks (II) edition contains the Introduction and Afterword. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 18:58, 2 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: You're the expert, I wouldn't know where to double-check this :-). Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Mammoth Book of Science Fiction ==<br />
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Have replaced Amazon link with scan of verified copy here http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302965 [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 10:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:34, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Aldiss's ''Helliconia'' ==<br />
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I've added the interior art suggested per [[User talk:Rtrace#Aldiss's Helliconia|this discussion]] to our mutually verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?314253 record]. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: Excellent, very thorough. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Lord of Light ==<br />
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Replaced Amazon's cover image with a scan for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304708 verified pub]. The Amazon image had the capital 'A' missing from "Zelazny". [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 05:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 07:34, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Inverted World ==<br />
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Replaced the Amazon image for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?400971 verified pub] with a better scan that was already in the db. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 06:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Blue World ==<br />
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I've amended the note on our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?225525 verified pub] to add the US and Canadian cover prices, (ie. the prices are not stickered). Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 09:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
: I've also replaced the cover with an Amazon image – the cover in the database omitted the word "The" from the title. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 15:48, 14 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:35, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Credit on "Under the Pyramids" in ''The Thing on the Doorstep'' ==<br />
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Hi. In your verified 10th printing of {{P|352021|The Thing on the Doorstep}}, how is "Under the Pyramids" credited? An editor with a different edition discovered it credited there having "with Harry Houdini" on the story's title page. I'm trying to separate the variations of that title where it's credited just to Houdini, just to Lovecraft, or jointly to the two of them. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 12:42, 23 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: The title page 53 says "(with Harry Houdini)" below the story title. In the "Explanatory Notes" essay at the end of the book there is a whole section dedicated to the story where it says: <blockquote>"Under the Pyramids" was ghostwritten for the Hungarian-born magician Harry Houdini [...] in February 1924. It was first published (as "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs" in ''Weird Tales'' (May-June-July 1924) and reprinted in ''Weird Tales'' (June-July 1939).</blockquote> There is more anecdotic detail about how the story was written, but I'm sparing you that :-). Let me know if you need more information, I should be around for the next few weeks. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok, thanks. Then I am going to change this when I get a chance to be the variant dually credited, instead of just being credited to Lovecraft. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 03:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::I even had the chance, so done. Thanks again for checking on it. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 03:45, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Price on The New Adam ==<br />
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I've submitted an edit to modify the note for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?142491 this verified pub] of yours to agree with the price in the price field. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] [[User_talk:Mike Christie|(talk)]] 11:40, 25 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: OK. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== I added the Canadian price to your verified ==<br />
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I added the Canadian price to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?272809].[[User:Don Erikson|Don Erikson]] 19:16, 9 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: No Canadian price is on the book, but the pub record does not contain a Canadian price either, so there is not really an issue. Discussion taken to Don's talk page. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Analog One ==<br />
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I replaced the Amazon image with a better cover scan, added overseas prices to the notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302085 your verified], and removed “price from Tuck”, which seemed unnecessary for a PVed. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:21, 30 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. The prices I cannot verify because on my book they have been obscured (probably by the second-hand dealer I bought the book from) and are illegible. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Analog Two ==<br />
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Hi. My own copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?292988 your verified] is priced 5/-, not 3/6. It does seem to be the 1967 edition, though. Would the second price be a slip of the keyboard ? Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 10:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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:You are correct as far as my copy goes - I failed to spot that when verifying to my shame. Mine is clearly stated as "Panther edition published 1967" but could we have an unstated later printing than ApeMind and Herzbube? [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 09:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::I think I read somewhere on this site (where ?) that Panther books usually state reprints. IMHO, I think the 1967 ''Analog Two'' record started as a clone of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302085 ''Analog One''], but the price wasn't corrected. Couldn't the difference in length (218 p. against 169) account for the difference in price ? [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 13:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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::: I cannot verify any prices because on my book they have been obscured (probably by the second-hand dealer I bought the book from) and are illegible. When I did my verification, I probably assumed that the price information on the pub record came from ApeMind, the editor who did the first primary verification. Anyway, I agree with Linguist that Panther books usually state reprints (from personal experience, but I don't recall any official source for the information). For instance, {{P|161441|this pub record}} is an extreme example with a large printing history, but also the {{P|152461|second printing}} of "Analog One" can be clearly distinguished from the {{P|302085|first printing}} by the reprint statement. To sum this up: I believe we all have the same book, and if you see 5/- as the price, that's the correct information that should be in the pub record. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:35, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::Thanks a lot for responding ! [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== The Year's Best Science Fiction No. 1 ==<br />
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Replaced Amazon image with new cover scan of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50791 The Year's Best Science Fiction No. 1]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 13:52, 31 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Year's Best Science Fiction No. 7 ==<br />
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Added overseas prices to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50793 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 15:06, 31 March 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Verified that the prices match. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''I Am Legend'' ==<br />
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I've added the roman numeral pages to your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304707 verified pub] that were missing from the page count field. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 05:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Well spotted. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Quarantine World ==<br />
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Hi, I want to make {{P|210773|Quarantine World}} part of the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?145 Masters of Science Fiction] series, if that is alright with you.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 21:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Yes, certainly. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Star Light, Star Bright'' ==<br />
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Hello, added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?167581 your verified], and uploaded a better scan. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Verified that the image matches. The pub notes are also OK, but I can't verify the prices because *sigh* once more my book has a second-hand dealer price sticker covering them. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Dark Universe'' ==<br />
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Expanded the notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307767 your verified]. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:16, 24 June 2014 (UTC).<br />
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: Yes, the Australian price matches. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Dancers at the End of Time ==<br />
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I've recently added the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460259 9th printing] of the SF Masterworks (II) edition Moorcock's ''The Dancers at the End of Time''. You may wish to use the cover image file for your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401348 8th printing], however pay attention to the oddities about this 9th printing cover which I've detailed in the note: it may or may not precisely match the cover for your 8th printing. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 17:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: The "SF MASTERWORKS" logo is indeed differently placed on my 8th printing (closer to the spine). So thanks for the offer, but I will provide my own cover scan that matches my verified copy exactly. I hope I'll soon™ get around to do the scanning... Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:31, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Stars in My Pocket'' ==<br />
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Re the submission to update [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?33048 this record]: This is the record for the first printing. You should have cloned the record to create a new one for your copy of the second printing. I'll do that for you and then transfer the notes you've added. You'll have to move your verification to the new record which I will link here once it's been done. Please keep in mind that unless specified, it is assumed that records are for the first printing, or the one which is specified by the publication date. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?467600 Here] is the record I created for the second printing, based on the Notes you added in your rejected submission. Please remove the PV of the first printing's record and then PV this one. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: OK, thanks. But I'm slightly confused: The record of the first printing has 1986-06-00 as the pub date. I double-checked with Locus ([http://www.locusmag.com/index/b131.htm#A1751 external link]) where they list the book using 2 dates, like this: <blockquote>Jun ’86 [May ’86]</blockquote> I understood this to mean: May '86 = First printing, Jun '86 = Second printing. From there it was clear that I had the pub record for the second printing. So did I read Locus wrong? Can you explain what the bracketed date means? Thanks for your help, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Locus lists the stated publication date first, and then the date they received a copy of the book in brackets. So the book was published in June 1986, but a copy was seen in May 1986. You'll find this format used throughout the Locus database (Just look at the listings for Delany and you'll find dozens of uses of this format. Why would they have listings for second printings and not firsts?) There is nothing on their website which explains this standard, but something a longtime user would understand. (I can see how this would confuse new users.) Based on the statement in your copy of the second printing, there is no stated month of publication, just the year. That's why I changed the ISFDB record to match the statement. If you find a reliable secondary source which provides the month of publication of the second printing, you can update the record and provide the source in the Note field. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:13, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks for your explanation and your patience. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Dating a publication based on advertising ==<br />
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I agree wholeheartedly that estimating a book's publication date based on advertising is a tricky matter. I try to discourage new editors from doing so, but there are some moderators who have a more lenient approach to such matters. Thanks for being conscientious. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== SBN ==<br />
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If the SBN is the source for deriving an unstated ISBN which was recorded into the ISBN/Catalog # field, then you should note that. If there is a full ISBN printed elsewhere on the publication, then it is optional to record the SBN in the ISFDB record. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: OK, I just updated "Natives of Space", and I will do the same with "Cycle of Fire" as soon as the record comes out of the submission queue. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Babel-17'' ==<br />
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It looks to me like your proposed clone of ''Babel-17'' is a duplicate of {{P|3445|this}}. I see we have a fourth printing with the same ISBN and price, where the editor recorded "fourth impression", so I assume no indication of printing would be the first one. Do you think your copy is different from that one? Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Ah, I see, I forgot that Gollancz usually adds a numberline (I double-checked a couple of other books I have from the (first) SF Masterworks series and they do have number lines). So, yes, I think I indeed have a copy of that first printing, at least I can see no difference. I will cancel my submission and update the other pub. Thanks for spotting this, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 14 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Expanded Universe'' ==<br />
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It's doubtful that your 12th printing has contents that have titles which differ from the earlier Ace printings. They probably all just cloned a record already in the database without looking at the titles, and the original record probably used the contents page instead of the title pages to enter the individual essay titles. I would suggest asking the other verifiers to confirm that their printings aren't probably the same. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:12, 15 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Agreed Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::I went ahead and accepted your submissions to create variants, but it may turn out that all the titles are the same, once the other verifiers check their copies. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks for accepting the submissions. The verifiers of the other printings should have an easier time now that they can take a look at one publication that has already been "massaged" into shape. Just as a side-note: I have also spotted inconsistencies surrounding the "Pandora's Box" essay ({{T|121362|title record}}) that I intend to clean up. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 09:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Disambiguation of generic-only titles ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468889 this record]: "Back to 2001" is not a generic title, so there's no need to disambiguate it. I've merged it with earlier publications of the title. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for merging. I would not haved dared do this myself without first checking with another editor ([[User_talk:Waldstein#Back_to_2001|here's my request]]). Was I over-cautious? How did you know that the two title records referred to the same essay? Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Same author, same title, same year of publication. Just guessed it was the same essay. Who knows, I could be wrong. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Also, can you confirm that the foreword is the same one used for the 1971 edition? That [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?530357 foreword] was co-credited to Stanley Kubrick. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:23, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Regarding the foreword: You are right, I have the one co-credited to Kubrick. Will do the merge in a minute. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''2010: Odyssey Two'' ==<br />
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I accepted the submission adding a new note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359690 this publication record], but have a concern. If there is an ISBN-13 present in the publication, you should update the ISBN in the record. BUT...are you certain that's an ISBN-13? Before 2007 it was common to use the EAN which was a precursor of the ISBN-13 (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number_(EAN) this Wikipedia article] to understand about EANs.) If it isn't explicitly stated as <nowiki>"ISBN 978-0-586-05699-8" </nowiki> ''above the barcode'' (which may have a number below the barcode like "9 780586 056998") then it's probably the EAN. If it does explicitly give it as the ISBN-13, then update the ISBN field of the record. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Interesting. I knew about the EAN from household shopping, but not that it was used for books as well. Anyway, I had another look at the back cover, and it really has the 13-digit ISBN. Will update the pub record in a minute. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::You may be interested in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookland this article] concerning the co-opting of the EAN by "Bookland". When books started adding a barcode based on the EAN, there was no relationship between the EAN and the ISBN. The EAN prefixes "978" and "977" have been designated exclusively for books. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:45, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Very interesting indeed. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 05:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Importing contents to avoid duplicate titles that require merging ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?208873 this publication record]: It would have been better to import the contents from another printing of the trilogy and you would have saved time by not having to enter the new contents and not having to merge the duplicate records. Keep that in mind when updating a record for an omnibus, collection, or anthology which already has another record with the contents. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:33, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for the pointer, I had forgotten about this function (have never used it before). Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Dispossessed ==<br />
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Patrick, is your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404674 The Dispossessed] as by Ursula Le Guin on Ursula K. Le Guin on the title page – I suspect the former. Thanks for looking. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 08:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Of course you are right, the title page has "Ursula Le Guin". My natural reaction was "let's create a variant title", but I am hesitating because I notice that's not what you did for {{P|438520|this pub}} that you verified. Is there some mystic taboo surrounding the title that forbids creating variants (similar to [[ISFDB:Help_desk#Should_I_create_a_variant_title.3F|this Help Desk question]])? I would find this very irritating because for many other Le Guin titles we do have variant titles. Confused, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Jumping in here because I've got one of the other Masterworks editions of this title which Pete also brought to my attention. The answer to the help desk question refers to how we treat subtitles only. In this case, aside for the missing subtitle from the original there is a difference in the author's name, which always requires a variant relationship. I already made the changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289330 my copy] creating [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1765549 this] new variant title. Aside from your copy, I believe that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?428918 this publication] which has been transient verified by Pete as well as his copy mentioned above should all be unmerged from the "Ursula K. Le Guin" title and merged instead with the "Ursula Le Guin" one. In any case before doing that with your copy, you'll need to adjust the name in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?404674 your publication record], or the unmerge won't create the new title correctly.<br />
::If both you and Pete agree, I'll let you or Pete do the unmerge and remerge. Or, I can do it if you'd both prefer. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Thanks for the clarification regarding variants and subtitle handling. Although I don't know the reason why subtitles are treated specially, it's at least a general rule that can be followed. The only remaining problem is that one needs to be told about the rule, because it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the help pages (e.g. [[Help:Screen:MakeVariant]] or [[Help:Screen:EditPub]]).<br />
::: Back to the issue at hand: Thanks for the offer, but I would like to do this myself. It has been a long time since I last used the unmerge tool, so I would welcome the practice. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 14:07, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::Well done all… please unmerge away! [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 14:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::: All done. Thanks for the exercise :-) Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Bishop's ''No Enemy But Time'' ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269505 this record]: What is the source for this second printing appearing in the same month as the first printing? Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:39, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: The book certainly does not say anything about the month (I doublechecked). I guess the month was already there when I verified the pub record - at least that's what the pub notes say. I am always wary of removing data that is in the database, and in 2009 there was no "Note to moderator" field for submissions, so I was probably just afraid of getting a rejection if I removed the month. I have made a submission that fixes the error and revises the pub notes. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:10, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, Patrick. Feel free to make changes as necessary to unverified records. If you're working from the book itself, you ARE the authority and a moderator will probably only question changes that appear unusual. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ISBN-13 ==<br />
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I accepted the submission updating [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?284696 this record] even though it changed the ISBN-10 to an ISBN-13. Are you certain your copy has an ISBN-13? If so, you have a later printing, post-2005. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I am certain. The way how the ISBN is printed is different from how volume 2 shows the EAN. It's a real ISBN where the check digit is correct, and the ISBN-13 also appears on the copyright page. So yes, I must have a later printing. Thanks for catching me - again. I have made a clone submission. As soon as this is accepted, I will revert my changes to the first printing publication. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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The number on the back jacket of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?284697 this book] is not an ISBN, but an EAN. (See my previous note about this product numbering standard.) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:52, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I thought as much. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Scarecrow editions of ''The Road to Science Fiction'' ==<br />
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Do these editions omit the introductory essays Gunn wrote for the original paperback editions? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:47, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: The introductions are included, although with the generic title "Introduction". I will fix these entries, along with many other errors that are currently in our database (stories that are in my books but are missing from the pub records; stories that are in the pub records but not in my books; different author credits; variant titles, etc). Here's an outline of my plans for the editing process:<br />
:* I have started the correction process by first adding page numbers and notes to the pub records. This is what you have seen so far.<br />
:* I did not want to do too much in one edit because of the numerous changes required. Maybe I should have explained that in the notes to moderator field.<br />
:* Next I am going to modify the pub record contents. This will take me another day or two to finish, as I currently don't have as much time on hand as in the last two weeks.<br />
:* I will try to keep the number of edits low, but please have patience if it is not the absolute minimum. I believe that sometimes it's better to spread out changes over several edits, to minimize the chance of getting confused. I'm applying a similar principle here as I do when I am developing software.<br />
: I hope this plan is OK with you. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Perfectly fine. Please proceed at your own pace. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:10, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== "Introduction (The Road to Science Fiction: Volume I: From Gilgamesh to Wells)" variant ==<br />
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Hi. Your new variant submission of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767899 Introduction (The Road to Science Fiction: Volume I: From Gilgamesh to Wells)], which I have on hold, looks like it is creating an identical title. Did you mean to try to make it a variant of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?122067 this] and perhaps push the wrong button? Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 12:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Oops, looks like I pushed "Create new parent title" instead of "Link to existing parent". Thanks for catching this. Let me try again... Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:40, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Variants to excerpts in ''The Road to Science Fiction'' ==<br />
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I don't think it's a good idea to variant the titles in your copy until the outcome of the discussion on the help page. It could very well turn out that the original edition has the same titles as yours (which seems quite likely.) Then it would mean just a matter of updating the titles instead of having to unvariant all of these. What do you think? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:46, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Sure, that's fine with me. The main thing was to finish the business on my end so that I can put the books back on the shelve. Unless it's irritating you or the other moderators to see a non-empty queue, could you please hold the submissions for a few days until a decision is reached? It would be nice if I wouldn't have to redo the work in case it turns out that varianting is necessary after all. [That was a sentence with a lot of conditionals, I hope my grammar wasn't too far off ☺] Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Don't worry about the other moderators' concern about a "non-empty" queue. Many of them never even look it, much less care if there's any submissions in it. :) I'll keep them on hold until the outcome of the discussions. I should have made it clearer that it would have been best to hold off making the variants until it's been discussed. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:39, 31 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::It appears that a consensus is forming to change the titles to match yours, with one voicing the opinion that the "(excerpt)" disambiguation is redundant if the work is titled "From ...". I see his point, since we only add "(excerpt)" if the title of the excerpt is identical to the title of the work from which it is excepted. I will reject the held submissions, and when the others have updated their records, we'll merge them with your titles. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:26, 3 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Tales of the Dying Earth'' ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?225469 this publication record]: I'm uncertain why you've added brackets around the page numbers. Is the whole book unpaginated? Brackets should only be used for unnnumbered pages within a range of unnumbered pages. Once a book's pagination starts, you count forward or backward to the closest numbered page to determine the page numbers of unnumbered ones, and they're entered without brackets. More than half of all book designers choose not to give page numbers on a content's title page (for aesthetic reasons, I suppose). Pull a few anthologies and collections off the shelf and check them out. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Sane situation with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1899 this publication]. Is this something you've just started or have you been doing it all along and no one noticed? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I've approved two submissions of this kind (now reverted) before noticing something strange. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:16, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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And [225437 this one]. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:06, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Michael, you are saying<br />
: <blockquote>Brackets should only be used for unnnumbered pages within a range of unnumbered pages. Once a book's pagination starts, you count forward or backward to the closest numbered page to determine the page numbers of unnumbered ones, and they're entered without brackets.</blockquote><br />
: I like this rule, but this is the first time that I have heard about it! Here is a quote (emphasis mine) with the rule from [[Template:PubContentFields:Page]] on which I have based my data entry:<br />
: <blockquote>[##] ''<span style="color:red">Any</span>'' page for which a number is derived by counting, possibly from a previously or subsequently numbered page, but the page carries no actual page number, should be listed in [brackets].</blockquote><br />
: I have been "doing it" :-) quite a few times in the past few years, and so far nobody has ever complained. I believe I usually did it in cases where several unpaginated pages in a row occurred, i.e. in situations where it was really noticeable that page numbers are missing (e.g. omnibuses like the ones I entered today). In situations where there was only a single page without a page number (e.g. anthologies) I usually bent the rule. Anyway, here are three consequences:<br />
:# I will never do it again :-)<br />
:# I will fix the mistake in those pub records that I have verified (will take some time)<br />
:# I write a proposal for an addition to the template text that clarifies the situation (will have to wait one or two days)<br />
: Agreed? Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 22:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Yes. I'll make the correction in that help section. Thanks for finding it. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Dancers at the End of Time'' ==<br />
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Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?401348 this publication]: Does ''An Alien Heat'' start on the first page of a range of unnumbered pages, which are not part of the range of numbered pages that constitute the bulk of the publication? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:23, 24 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Another [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?122611 printing] of this work gives a different interpretation of the pagination. Is it similar to your printing? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Yet [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460259 another interpretation]. These last two, though different, conform to the standards. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Content of the publication that I have verified:<br />
:* Front cover<br />
:* Inside front cover (I believe this is called the "front end paper", right?)<br />
:* First unnumbered page "Critical acclaim for Michael Moorcock"<br />
:* Second unnumbered page: "Also by Michael Moorcock"<br />
:* Third unnumbered page: Title page<br />
:* Fourth unnumbered page: Copyright page<br />
:* Fifth + sixth unnumbered pages: The "Prologue" content item<br />
:* Seventh unnumbered page: Title page for "An Alien Heat"<br />
:* Eightth - twelfth unnumbered pages: Some more pages belonging to "An Alien Heat"<br />
:* The first numbered page, page 7: Beginning of prologue chapter of "An Alien Heat"<br />
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: On re-reading (very carefully) the rules as they now appear in [[Template:PubContentFields:Page]], I see two possible ways how to record this:<br />
:# If I follow the rule for the special designation "[##]", I can record "[5]" for the "Prologue", and [7] for "An Alien Heat".<br />
:# If I follow the rule for the special designation "bp", I can record "bp" for both the "Prologue" and for "An Alien Heat"<br />
: Please let me know if this time I got it right, and I will amend the pub record. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 18:17, 26 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: In my defense: I am really trying ''hard'' to follow the rules. However, I played some sort of mind-trick on myself where I mis-read the "bp" rule addendum "(although generally you can derive the page number and enter it in brackets)" to mean that I should derive the page number by handcounting backwards - that's how I arrived at [1]. Upon carefully re-reading everything, I now realize that "you can derive the page number" actually refers to the definition of how to derive page numbers under the "[##]" rule. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 18:17, 26 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::That method is also used for "unnumbered pages" in a range of numbered pages (see the first bullet of the rules.) Counting backward from the first numbered page ("7"), the page you designated as the "seventh unnumbered page" would be considered page "1". So ''Alien Heat'' should be entered as starting on page "1". Any record for content before that page is entered as being within a range of unnumbered pages. So the "Prologue" would be numbered as "[5]". Alternately, the rules allow an editor to use "bp" (before pagination) for all content before page 1. Just because there isn't a printed number on page 1 doesn't mean it's part of the range of unnumbered pages. The "page number can be derived from the nearest numbered page" rule is in effect here. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: OK, thanks. I have tried to illustrate all this with some pseudo-graphical diagrams ([[User:Herzbube/ExamplesForPageFieldOfContentRecords|link to wiki page]]). In the meantime, I have fixed the "Dancers at the End of Time" pub record, but I am waiting with fixing other pub records until I get some feedback from my proposal on the "Rules and standards discussion" page. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:57, 28 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Susanna Clarke's ''Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell'' ==<br />
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Replaced the Amazon image of Susanna Clarke's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?157121 ''Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell''] with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary2 reference. I also noted the Canadian price. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 15:42, 29 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 18:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Rejects of variant submissions ==<br />
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I rejected the three submissions that created variants because all three titles already existed in the database. It's possible that some of the pubs had different translations and that will have to be sorted out, but the three translations in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258973 this publication] are reprints of previously published translations and have title records. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Did you notice that the variants I tried to create were using different spellings of the author name? Specifically:<br />
:* {{T|73436|This title}} uses the author name "Stanislaw Lem", but in the "Road to SF" pub it appears as by "Stanisław Lem" (note the l vs. ł)<br />
:* {{T|78586|This title}} uses the author name "Jorge Luís Borges", but in the "Road to SF" pub it appears as by "Jorge Luis Borges" (note the í vs. i)<br />
:* {{T|785073|This title}} uses the author name "Kobo Abe", but in the "Road to SF" pub it appears as by "Kobo Abē" (note the e vs. ē)<br />
: The database currently has no variants under these author names. As far as I know we always create variants for differently spelled author names. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Differently spelled, yes. But these are essentially the same. We don't make pseudonyms or variants based on accented letters. You won't find any records by "Jorge Luis Borges" in the db. They're all by "Jorge Luís Borges", regardless of how the name appears in a publication. (Just as you won't find any records in the db for "Philip Jose Farmer" although it's very likely that there have been many publications without the accented "e".) "Abē" appears to be the same situation, but without going through each of the actual publications represented in the database, we can't know which use that form of the letter "e". <br />
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::The variation for "Stanisław" however is relatively recent. An editor familiar with Polish determined that the character "ł" is sufficiently different from the Latin letter "l", so the change was made. But there's no telling how many works in the database were entered using "l" instead of "ł" because very few English-only editors know how to enter that character on a standard keyboard. If you want to add a variation under this name, please remove the existing one in the publication record, add a new one (credited to "Stanisław"), and then variant it. Making the variant first creates a publess title record, and there are clean-up reports that find such titles and editors delete them from the database. <br />
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::It's quite possible that we need to start a discussion about whether the difference requires the creation of variants and pseudonyms. The ability to use non-Latin characters is quite recent, and some rules may need to be established. Feel free to post a topic on the Rules & Standards discussion page to get a wider range of opinions on the matter. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:40, 15 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Interviews of non-spec-fic related persons ==<br />
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In [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?485566 this publication], it would be a good idea to change the interview with John Huston to an ESSAY. If you look at the link from Huston's name to his summary page, you'll find no publications. The best way to handle these publess "authors" is the conversion of the record from INTERVIEW to ESSAY. Since you can't do a direct edit to an INTERVIEW record, it will have to be removed from the record, deleted, and an ESSAY record added to the publication record. I'm not sure if this policy is explained in the help pages, but when I get a chance I'll bring it up on the Rules & Standards discussion page. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:38, 19 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I can certainly do what you ask, but before I do I would appreciate it if you could explain the reasoning behind the policy. Probably the best place to do this would be on Rules & Standards so that others can also benefit from the explanation. The things that puzzle me:<br />
:* The database has genuine support for recording interviews, i.e. an interviewer-interviewee relationship. Therefore I would have imagined that recording accurate information by making use of that DB capability is much more important than preventing the odd non-spec-fic related author to appear in the database. Why is it so important that we have no publess authors?<br />
:* What happens if after a while it turns out that we need to add some titles for an author that we originally thought was not spec-fic related? If we followed the policy we would have to go back and turn ESSAY titles back to INTERVIEW - something that I believe is unlikely to happen, since by creating ESSAY titles we lost the interviewee information except in unstructured pub/title notes. Just as an example: Who would have thought that Woody Allen is a spec-fic related author, and yet at some point a couple of entries were made for him.<br />
: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 15:38, 19 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::I understand your concerns, but would you not agree that summary bibliography pages for publess authors look rather strange? How would a typical database user encountering [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?68401 this page] react? And since John Huston has shuffled off his mortal coil, it's not likely that we'll ever get a spec-fic related publication out of him. Adding the word "interview" in the Note field of the ESSAY-typed record will easily pull out any that would later need to be converted to true INTERVIEW records. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1731898 This one], for example. Just as we don't create REVIEW records in spec-fic publications for non-eligible titles (like films, non-genre books, etc.) but enter them as ESSAYs, the same approach would be just as reasonable for interviews of non-spec-fic related persons which appear in spec-fic publications. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:49, 19 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: You are right in that Huston's author page looks empty, but I do not agree with the conclusion that because of this we must sacrifice database accuracy by not letting him enter the database. The solution in my opinion clearly lies in modifying the source code that generates the author page. Software solutions that I know generally show a prominent notice in place of the content that is usually expected. For instance, we could display the placeholder notice "This author has no publications.", with enlarged font or whatever is necessary to make it look good. In other words, I find this to be a presentational issue which should not 1) influence the way how we record data; and 2) create yet another rule that editors have to remember.<br />
::: That being said, I agree that finding interview ESSAY titles and converting them back to INTERVIEW is feasible the way how you describe it. What I am not so sure of is whether people will actually do this when the time comes to create a new author. But I guess we can add some automated moderator script that tracks down records that have "Interview" in the Note field.<br />
::: Just my 2 cents. And thanks for the Shakespeare :-) Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:39, 20 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::It's not the fact that the author's summary page is empty. There's more than a matter of aesthetics at play here. Why should a database devoted to speculative fiction have a summary page for a film director, actor, scientist, author, etc. who have no spec-fic connections? That's the fundamental reason why REVIEWs and INTERVIEWs of these people should be entered as ESSAYs. As for "database accuracy", it's undeniable that these reviews and interviews are still essays. So there's no sacrifice in db integrity to record them as such. If anyone comes here looking for Alfred Bester's interview with John Huston (a infinitesimal possibility, I suppose), it will be easily found on Bester's summary page under essays. Who (admittedly, an even more infinitesimal possibility) would search for a summary page for John Huston to find Bester's piece? As for what editors will do, you never know. Being a voluntary project, one never knows what another editor might do. Maybe an editor will take it on. I'm going to go through all ESSAY-typed records with "interview" in the title to make sure that it's also in the Note field. At least that's a good start. (A quick search found about 150 such records in the database.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::: I have started to fix my PV'ed publication according to your initial suggestions. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:32, 22 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Elric map ==<br />
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I changed the publication date of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?987624 this title record] to match the one you gave in the Notes as the first publication. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:36, 20 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Michael Moorcock Collection is not a title series ==<br />
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About this [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?34560 "series"]: It looks like a publication series and not a title series. (Rule of thumb: if this exact publication was reprinted by another publisher would it still remain in the same title series? If the answer is no, then it's a publication series.) It appears to be another (fourth or fifth) repackaging of titles in the Elric series, and not a new title series. Since you have a verified record in the series are you up to making the corrections and moving the pub records to a new publication series? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 03:33, 22 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Also [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?418476 this] looks like a NOVEL with a bonus story, not a COLLECTION. (Unless there are missing contents.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 03:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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And it appears that someone has already created a publication series for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?417180 the Michael Moorcock Collection]. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 03:43, 22 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I don't know who created the title series, but I already concluded that it wouldn't be the right thing for the entire "Michael Moorcock Collection", so that's why I started adding to the publication series. So to answer your first question: Yes, I think I am up to the task. It seems to me that working with title or pub series is not that difficult - the whole interior art stuff gives me much more headaches. Anyway, please give me a few more days before I destroy the title series, I'd like to verify the remaining 4 pub records series first (I have all the books).<br />
: Regarding the "Elric: The Fortress of the Pearl" pub record: I just added some more content, but all of those items are essays of one sort or another. So I guess you are right, this is probably not a collection, and I have made a corresponding submission to change the pub type to NOVEL. Thanks for catching this. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Through the Looking Glass, and What Alice Found There'' ==<br />
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Please check the ISBN given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?353632 this record]. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 07:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:I found the correct ISBN on OCLC. Please see if that number matches your copy. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:07, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: The ISBN that is now on the pub record is correct. Thanks for the update, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:37, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Excession ==<br />
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Add cover image scan & LCCN note to {{P|114441|Excession}}. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:11, 1 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Perfect match, thanks. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 15:13, 1 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Elric: Stormbringer'' ==<br />
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If there are no additional works of fiction to add to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?438714 this record], it should be typed as NOVEL instead of COLLECTION. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:46, 1 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Ah, I always forget to check the pub type :-( I will make the change tomorrow, but first some sleep... Thanks for the reminder, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 01:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Zenith Letter ==<br />
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Just an FYI that title dates are generally dates of the first publication, so I have changed the date of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1034831 "The Zenith Letter"] from 1924 to 2001. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:34, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Argh, I know I know I know... why didn't I fix that date myself?! Sometimes I have this terrible reluctance to overwrite someone else's data... Thanks for making the edit, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:07, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: Hey, it's better than being ''too'' willing to overwrite other people's data! :-) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 19:59, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: Unfortunately that's an urge I also sometimes feel. I guess that's when I'm in my manic phase :-) Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:08, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Elric von Melniboné: Die Sage vom Ende der Zeit ==<br />
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I just comapared my 4th printing of {{P|454342|Elric von Melniboné: Die Sage vom Ende der Zeit}} with {{P|488317|your record for the first printing}} and it seems like the INTERIORART of your first printing is distributed accross completely different pages. Also it seems like my edition has a lot more images than yours. Random example: you recorded an INTERIORART "Die träumende Stadt" on page 335, but in my edition there is no image on that page, it's just the start of the text for "Erstes Buch: Die träumende Stadt". However, I see artwork on pages 345,353,367, which I don't find in your publication record. Same with all other INTERIORART you recorded. Is there really artwork on the pages that you've recorded as INTERIORART? And is there no other artwork inbetween these? Jens [[User:Hitspacebar|Hitspacebar]] 21:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: There is a sane explanation for everything - I hope :-)<br />
: I did not create INTERIORART records for each separate illustration, that would have been much too detailed for ISFDB purposes (the level of granularity that ISFDB wants is the level on which first publication can be attributed). So in this instance I created INTERIORART records for each story/novel. Taking the example "Die träumende Stadt":<br />
:* I created {{T|1790029|this title record}}<br />
:* If you look at the title record, you will see that it is a variant title, because I had to record the non-canonical author name "J. Cawthorne"<br />
:* If you look at {{T|1791093|the canonical title record}} you can see the note where I described that the title record refers to ''a set of 3 illustrations''!<br />
: Now you probably start to understand what's happening: I only have one INTERIORART title record, but I have 3 illustrations on different pages; since I can't record 3 different page numbers for the same content item, I chose to record ''the starting page'' of the story, i.e. page 335. This procedure is documented under the bullet point "INTERIORART" on [[Template:TitleFields:EntryType|this help page]]. I hope this clears up some things, but if you still have questions, don't hesitate to ask. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 22:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: I had just realized that as well and wanted to post that here, but you were quicker :). Sorry for bothering you, I should have read the help beforehand. If I remember correctly I was following the first rule instead when I entered the data for my 4th printing (because its the same artist for all artwork except the map). [[User:Hitspacebar|Hitspacebar]] 23:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::: No worries then. Good night (and good luck :-)) Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::And I added the month of publication to the first edition, along with an accompanying note. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 04:34, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Excerpts in ''Wicked'' ==<br />
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Are you certain you want to remove the records for the excerpts at the end of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301342 this book]? If so, you'll have to delete the titles from the database. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:47, 15 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Yes, I am certain, and I am aware that I need to delete title records after I remove the last reference to them. Recording excerpts has been a mistake I have made a few times in the past, but I never liked it. Since no one else has cloned my pub yet, and I had to touch the pub for adding the cover scan anyway, I thought I might take the opportunity to kill off those records. If I recall correctly you are also not fond of excerpts, so I hope you will approve the submission. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:17, 15 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::I do and I have. (Hate recording excerpts and approved the submission.) I'll delete the record as well. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:01, 16 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ISBN-13 on ''Cyteen'' ==<br />
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I accepted the submission changing the ISBN in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298172 this publication] to the ISBN-13, but a question: is this the number given on the barcode and are they words "ISBN-13" stated? It could be an EAN, which was a precursor of the ISBN-13 and was used for more than a decade on the barcodes of books. Thanks for looking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Yes, the word "ISBN-13" is stated. The first line is the ISBN-10, the second the ISBN-13, and below that comes the EAN bar code. I assume the 9th printing was manufactured around the time when the transition from 10 to 13 ISBN digits took place. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:08, 18 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks. That's good to know that at least the 9th and over printings will have an ISBN-13. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:30, 18 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: Oh, and thanks for deleting the excerpt title record. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:: You're welcome. I can sometimes anticipate an obvious follow-up submission, so it saves some time and effort for the editor if I do it. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:30, 18 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Silmarillion'' ==<br />
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You have verified publications of this title so [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Inconsistencies_with_various_editions_of_The_Silmarillion.3F this discussion] should be of interest. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:30, 12 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: The discussion was about converting "The Silmarillion" titles and pubs from NOVEL into COLLECTION. The deed has been done. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:45, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Numbering discussion ==<br />
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Hi Patrick, I asked another numbering question on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Page_Number_Question.2C_Again.21 the help desk] which you might be able to shed some light on. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 07:39, 11 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: The discussion has wound down long ago while I was absent. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:47, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I added the month of date to your verified ==<br />
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I added the month of date to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9238].[[User:Don Erikson|Don Erikson]] 22:21, 6 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:50, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Cities in Flight ==<br />
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I have a different price on the back cover of this book {{P|CTSNFLGHTF1981|}} my price is £2,75.[[User:Wjmvanruth|Wjmvanruth]] 17:00, 15 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: I double-checked, and my copy of the book clearly has £2.50 on the back cover, so I assume that you have a different printing. Since your price is higher than mine it must be a later printing. I don't know how Arrow Books distinguishes printings (a number line? enumeration of printings on the copyright book?) but hopefully you will find something on the copyright page. If you like we can exchange more details to find a distinguishing point. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:30, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: I have a different back cover without the barcode on it, so it is must be a different edition also because of the price, thank you for responding. [[User:Wjmvanruth|Wjmvanruth]] 13:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Godwhale ==<br />
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I replaced the ISFDB cover scan for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250875 this book]<br />
that you verified with the full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:43, 3 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Excellent, thanks. I wonder if there is a neat trick how to easily create wraparound cover scans without breaking the book's back, or does the work simply consist of adding together 3 partial scans in an image editing software? Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::"The neat trick" - at least for my collection - is for them to be floppy enough to open out flat onto a scanner without breaking them. Although I'm guessing that there are certain bibliophiles who'd shoot daggers at me with their eyes for doing such a thing and they'd cobble together a three part scan in photoshop. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Road to Science Fiction 6 (White Wolf) ==<br />
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Edited the publisher for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?258973 this book] to Borealis / White Wolf Publishing to conform with same publisher (White Wolf) of Volumes 3 and 5 of this series. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:23, 7 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Sounds fine, thanks. Publisher/imprint handling is definitely not my strength. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:00, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Einstein Intersection ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?256309 this book] is Eddie Jones (signed under the tree branch lower left). Record edited accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Good spot! Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Again Dangerous Visions 2 ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1763 this book] is Angus Mckie referenced on page 9 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273410 this book]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:08, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Starchild Trilogy ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?224917 this book] with full wraparound version and added Australian price to notes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for the nice looking cover scan, I wish my book were in as good a shape as yours. The Australian price was not in the notes when I just looked, so I added it myself. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 12:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Gladiator-at-Law ==<br />
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Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?223765 this book] is by Patrick Woodroffe as per his website [http://www.patrickwoodroffe-world.com/gladiator.htm here]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawksbill Station ==<br />
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Re cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?407192 this book]. Can say for definite its Bruce Pennington, from his Facebook page [https://www.facebook.com/129826343726792/photos/pb.129826343726792.-2207520000.1435858891./927529730623112/?type=3&theater here]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:44, 2 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Excellent research, thanks. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Emphyrio ==<br />
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Replaced cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?123461 this book] with full wraparound version. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Perfect match. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:08, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The New Adam ==<br />
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Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?142491 this book] is Patrick Woodroffe, credited on page 136 of Mythopoeikon. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:09, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Green Mars ==<br />
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Does your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?467823 Green Mars] have the red stripe in the lower right corner of the front cover that says "WINNER OF THE HUGO AWARD"? Thanks, [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 03:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Yes, it does have a red stripe with that text. I hope this answer is still useful despite the long waiting time since you wrote the question. Don't hesitate to ask if you need more information - I will be active again on ISFDB for some time, so an answer should be forthcoming with much more dispatch ☺. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::Excellent, Thanks! [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 03:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Mutant Weapon vs. Med Service ==<br />
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Please see [[ISFDB:Community Portal#The Mutant Weapon vs. Med_Service]] as a primary verifier of {{P|210773|Quarantine World}}. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 23:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: The Community Portal page has been archived, [[ISFDB:Community_Portal/Archive/Archive37#The_Mutant_Weapon_vs._Med_Service|this is now the correct link]]. I missed the discussion, but I agree with the outcome. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Blue Mars 3rd Printing ==<br />
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It looks like we have two entries for the 3rd printing of the Bantam Spectra mass market paperback edition of Blue Mars; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329723 one I submitted] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?376805 one submitted by Pip55]. Do you see any issue in combining them and transferring your Primary Verification? Pips55 hasn't been responsive in a few years. Thanks, [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 21:23, 14 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: I double-checked the data and my book, and I agree: These two pubs are effectively the same and should be merged. I almost made the necessary edits, but then I hesitated because I realized: If we delete the pub record that was submitted by Pips55 we will lose his (her?) Primary Verification, because he (she?) is no longer active and is thus unable to transfer his (her?) Primary Verification. I can think of two solutions:<br />
:# We do it anyway and leave a note on Pips55's talk page, so he (she?) can transfer the Primary Verification whenever he (she?) returns to active service.<br />
:# We do it the other way around, i.e. you transfer ''your'' Primary Verification, then we delete the pub record that ''you'' submitted. This will preserve Pips55's Primary Verification. <br />
: Knowing that it is the ISFDB culture/spirit to try to preserve as much data as possible, I favor the second option. What do you think? Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:11, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, I've transferred some of the notes, moved my primary verification, and deleted the other pub. I'll leave a note on Pips55 talk page as well. [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 02:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Jesus Incident ==<br />
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351452 this] is Fred Gambino, see [http://www.wow-art.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1355167734 wow-art.com]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 20:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Good find, thanks. I will have to change the scan, though, my book has a version of the cover art that is much less colorful than the one that is currently in place. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:50, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Pebble in the Sky - pub note ==<br />
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I've added a pub. note to your PV1 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25799 Pebble in the Sky], [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 10:39, 22 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: I don't know what you added, but it looks good in its current state ☺. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:36, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Songs of Distant Earth - publication date? ==<br />
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Hi, my copy of <I>The Songs of Distant Earth</i> appears to be identical to your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?468780 copy], with the exception of the following:<br />
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First, my book has a price of £6.99 in the white barcode box on the rear cover.<br />
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Second, there is a single number '9' in the centre of the line underneath the top line, "This paperback edition 1998", of the printing history you have shown. (Indicating a 9th printing, out of a 9-number printing line perhaps?) The rest of my printing history matches exactly what you have shown. I'm not sure if the presence or not of the '9' would make any difference, especially in view of the line "reprinted 4 times" on both our books, but it would be useful to know. Thanks, [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 21:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: I double-checked my book, and I can say with certainty that there is neither a price on the rear cover nor a number "9" on the copyright page. This lets me think that you probably have a different printing, possibly a later one, but I can't be sure of that. I suggest you create a new pub record by cloning the one I PV'd, and adding your observations to the pub note. If you like you could also bring this up on the Help page, maybe someone with more experience than me knows the significance of the differences you noticed. Regarding the "reprinted 4 times" line: I believe this refers to the Grafton edition; if you check out the {{T|1164|title record}} you can see that we already have 4 Grafton pub records in our database, so we are missing only one more. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 22:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Forever Free - change of publisher ==<br />
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I've made a change to the Publisher shown in the metadata of your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?233333<i>Forever Free</I>], from 'Millennium / Orion' to 'Millenium / Victor Gollancz', to match what is shown in my copy of the book. They are both essentially the same company here in the UK. How does this compare with your copy? [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 10:17, 8 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: My book has "Millennium an imprint of Victor Gollancz" on the copyright page, so your change is 100% correct. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:45, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawkmoon - Year and pub note ==<br />
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I've amended the 'Year' field in your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130941<i>Hawkmoon</i>] to show the month, from Locus1, and added a pub note on the same info. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 21:22, 16 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Amtrak Wars: Cloud Warrior - pub note ==<br />
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Added a pub note on additional pricing to your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7379<i>The Amtrak Wars: Cloud Warrior</i>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 10:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Can you specify where on the back cover of your book that price is located? On my copy the lower 25% of the back cover has a white background, with the British price on the right-hand side, right above the ISBN and the barcode block. On the left-hand side of the white area my copy did have a label, fiendishly glued on by the 2nd hand bookshop that sold the book to me. Unfortunately I partially destroyed the back cover just now, when I tried to remove the label and suddenly became very impatient. So now I have no idea whether the Malta price was underneath the label. *sigh* At least it's not a valuable book. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:05, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== ''I Am Legend'' cover ==<br />
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Replaced the Amazon image for the cover of your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304707 I Am Legend] with a scan – the quote on the cover is positioned differently. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 09:28, 27 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: One less cover that I have to scan myself. The scan matches my book perfectly. Thanks a lot, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Classics of Modern Science Fiction ==<br />
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When you get a chance, could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#.22Classics_of_Modern_Science_Fiction.22 this discussion], which affects your verified pubs? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 18:20, 15 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Note to self: Responded two months late. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:44, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Long Haul From the ANNALS OF TRANSPORTATION, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009 ==<br />
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I'm placing this topic here on my talk page because several editors are involved ([[User:Markwood|Markwood]], [[User:Bluesman|Bluesman]], [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] and [[User:DarkMatter42|DarkMatter42]]) and I would like to keep the discussion centralized, yet the topic seems too minuscule to bother the Community Portal with it. Anyway, the topic is {{T|1789100|this title record}}. Currently the title of the story is recorded in ISFDB like this:<br />
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: The Long Haul From the ANNALS OF TRANSPORTATION, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
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I propose that we regularize this to the new title:<br />
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: The Long Haul from the Annals of Transportation, the Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
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Changes:<br />
* The words "From" and "The" should be lowercase, i.e. "from" and "the"<br />
* Whoever added the title record used caps to represent italics. According to our rules, however, we should not represent fonts by changing the spelling of titles. Quote from [[Help:Screen:EditPub]]: "If the font seems important, it can be shown and/or described in a note."<br />
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Furthermore, in {{P|536229|this book}} that I own the story appears with an additional comma after the word "Haul", like this (italics added as they appear in my book):<br />
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: The Long Haul, from the <i>Annals of Transportation, the Pacific Monthly</i>, May 2009<br />
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So here are the questions to all involved:<br />
# Do you agree to regularize the title as proposed above? If your answer is "no", what else do you suggest?<br />
# Does the comma appear in the publication(s) you own? If the comma appars in all publications then we can add it to the title record. If not then we will have to create a variant title record.<br />
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Thanks all for your help, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 11:55, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I recommend we go with Dozois' version (except without italics):<br />
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The Long Haul, from the Annals of Transportation, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
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:Comparing Dozois with Strahan & Horton:<br />
::- Dozois has a comma after "Haul". Strahan & Horton don't have that comma, but they have "The Long Haul" on a line by itself so there's an implied comma.<br />
::- In Dozois, the "the" before "Annals" is not capitalized, but the "The" before "Pacific" is capitalized indicating it's part of the title of "The Pacific Monthly". (I'll bet your UK "Mammoth Book" version of Dozois also has "The Pacific ...".) Strahan & Horton aren't useful for this issue because both have the two embedded titles in all caps.<br />
:[[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 06:20, 14 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: Excellent, thanks for the additional information! Please excuse the delay in my answer, I thought I would give the other editors a chance to also add their thoughts. My two cents:<br />
::* So Strahan & Horton have "The Long Haul" on a line by itself. In my opinion that's a clear case of a subtitle. Quote from [[Help:Screen:EditPub]]: "''Subtitles''. If the title has a subtitle, enter it, with a colon and a space used to separate the title from the subtitle. For example, the 1986 edition of George MacDonald's "Lilith" has "Lilith" on the title page, and below that, in a smaller font, "A Romance". This should be entered as "Lilith: A Romance"."<br />
::* Regarding capitalization, you win the bet, of course ☺. My lame excuse ☺ is that my book uses a fancy font that makes it hard to distinguish between lowercase and uppercase. OK, so it can be argued that the author intended "The Pacific" to use a capitalized "The". Quote from [[Help:Screen:EditPub]]: "Titles should have case regularized unless there is some specific evidence that the author intended certain letters to be in a specific case."<br />
:: So my new proposal is this: We change the canonical title record to the subtitle form, to be used in the Strahan & Horton publications:<br />
The Long Haul<span style="color:red">: F</span>rom the Annals of Transportation, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
:: Then we create a variant title record with the comma form, to be used in the Dozois publications:<br />
The Long Haul<span style="color:red">, f</span>rom the Annals of Transportation, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
:: How does this sound? Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 10:44, 17 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Re-read our discussion and noted your comment, "Whoever added the title record used caps to represent italics." So I checked the story's original publication in eMag 'Clarkesworld': http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/liu_11_14/. There are italicized fonts on the page, so use of all caps in title is clearly a choice, not an expedient compromise. Based on that, and noting your research on how to show sub-titles, I now think we should only change the initial comma to a colon, and retain the typography used in original publication:<br />
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The Long Haul: From the ANNALS OF TRANSPORTATION, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
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:::Given this new info, what do you think? [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 19:02, 17 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Very good observation. I think you hit the nail how we should record the title in the canonical title record. However, following ISFDB rules we cannot ignore the differing punctuation used in the Dozois publications - even if it's only a measly comma ☺ - and thus should create a variant title record that has the comma:<br />
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The Long Haul, from the ANNALS OF TRANSPORTATION, The Pacific Monthly, May 2009<br />
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:::: If you agree I can make the necessary edits. I say I will wait another 3-4 days before implementing the changes, to give Bill (Bluesman) and Hervé (Hauck) a final chance to voice their opinion. Mark (DarkMatter42) appears to have been inactive for almost 2 years now, so I don't think we'll have to wait for him. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 21:33, 17 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::::LOL :) Yes, I fully agree with this conclusion. And I REALLY appreciate you offering to do the edits. THANKS! [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 03:58, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::::No problem with me. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 06:13, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::::::: All done! Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:31, 21 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Brian W. Aldiss... ==<br />
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...is the canonical name of the author. So I rejected the submissions to make records credited to him into variants under his pseudonym {{A|Brian Aldiss}}. What exactly were your intentions regarding these submissions? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 21:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I re-read the Note to Moderator in the first submission, so now I understand what you were trying to do. You were just going about it from a different direction. It's best to create variant titles by first adding them as contents to a publication record. Then you can variant those new title records to the existing ones for the title which credit "Brian W. Aldiss". By creating title records first, you risk the chance of creating non-pubbed titles. But even if you didn't and were able to keep track of them, you'd have to make further submissions to import all of these titles into the publication record. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 21:59, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Too bad you rejected those submissions, because I have '''carefully''' thought out the process! Look:<br />
:* Creating variants first: n submissions for creating the variants, then 1 submission for importing them. Total = n + 1.<br />
:* Adding titles to a pub first: 1 submission for adding the titles, then n submissions for making them into variants. Total = n + 1.<br />
: So both approaches require the same number of submissions, but the second approach requires me to copy&paste all the titles and the dates for the variants into the publication, which is substantially more work than just gradually building up a list of record IDs that I have to import in a text editor. Can you trust me, please, that I am able to keep track of those variants? Because I am going to repeat the process, it really is much more convenient for me. Thank you, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:15, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::I will recuse myself from moderating the submissions, since that is not the best way to add variant titles to the database. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 23:34, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::: OK. I hope a different moderator will be more flexible :-( I also hope you will accept other submissions from me in the future. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:47, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::: If another moderator is reading this: I have now finished creating variant title submissions. I am now waiting for them to be accepted, then I will import them, together with other titles, to {{P|434433|this pub}}. Thank you, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:59, 13 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Best of Sci-Fi ==<br />
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I'm placing this topic here on my talk page because more than one editor is involved ([[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] and [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]]). The topic is {{P|355893|this anthology}} where I have discovered numerous discrepancies that I would like to correct. Here is a list where each change has a number that we can use as reference during the discussion.<br />
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# "Introduction (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)": This should be recorded as "Introduction (The Best of Sci-Fi)".<br />
# "The Never-Ending Penny": This appears as "The Never Ending Penny" (no hyphen).<br />
# On page 80 an illustration appears that has not been recorded. Title is "Obvious!", credit is "Michael Ffolkes".<br />
# "A Rose by Other Name ...": This appears as "A Rose by Other Name" (no ellipsis).<br />
# On page 174 a text titled "About the Author" appears as a kind of postscript to the preceding story. The text is about Elizabeth Emmett. Usually I would not record something like this, but since in this case the text appears quite out of the ordinary I propose to add this as an essay. I'm not sure how the title should look like - "About the Author (The Best of Sci-Fi)" seems a bit misleading in an anthology, so how about this: "About the Author (Elizabeth Emmett) (The Best of Sci-Fi)"?<br />
# "Ed Lear Wasn't So Crazy!" by "Hilbert Schenck": This appears as by "Hilbert Schenck, Jr." (with suffix).<br />
# "The Year in S-F (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)": This appears as "Summation: The Year in S-F". It should be recorded as "Summation: The Year in S-F (The Best of Sci-Fi)".<br />
# "S-F Books - 1960": This appears as "S-F Books: 1960" (colon instead of hyphen). It should be recorded as "S-F Books: 1960 (The Best of Sci-Fi)".<br />
# "Honorable Mentions (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)": This should be recorded as "Honorable Mentions (The Best of Sci-Fi)".<br />
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Please provide your opinion if you agree / don't agree with any of the proposed changes, or have other suggestions. Thanks for your help in cleaning this up. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 02:08, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: Here are my two cents, but you need far more verifiers in my eyes as other editions are also affected -I can vouch that the two UK and two US paperbacks are 100% identical within, owing one edition of both-:<br />
1. As 'The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F' is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?33510 parent title] of 'The Best of Sci-Fi', I have no problems giving the introduction in all five titles under that parent just one name, that of the parent. If we decide a new name is needed it should be made into a variant of the original, but then the same would be needed for "6th Annual Edition: the Year's Best S-F".<br><br />
2. "The Never-Ending Penny" should indeed be "The Never Ending Penny".<br><br />
3. You are right about the cartoon.<br><br />
4. "A Rose by Other Name ...": Indeed appears as "A Rose by Other Name" (no trailing periods).<br><br />
:: Funny thing is that at least one US edition does this right.<br />
5. "About the Author (Elizabeth Emmett) (The Best of Sci-Fi)" Here we have the same problem as with the first, why not call all "About the Author (Elizabeth Emmett) (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)". In fact, why mentioning the anthology at all, if we are to include the 'about the author'?<br><br />
:: Your mentioning this author was in fact instrumental in me finding details about her, thanks!<br />
6. "Hilbert Schenck" here the Canonical name has been used during the entry of the record. The book however has "Hilbert Schenck, Jr." both in TOC and on title page.<br><br />
:: Funny thing is -again- that at least one US edition does this right.<br />
7. "The Year in S-F (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)". Same as with the first and fifth: If we decide a new name is needed it should be made into a variant of the original. But why three names for the same content?<br><br />
8. "S-F Books - 1960" should in my eyes just be # "S-F Books: 1960". It is the same for all five titles and adding the three different anthology names adds nothing.<br><br />
9. "Honorable Mentions (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)". Same as with the first, fifth and seventh: If we decide a new name is needed it should be made into a variant of the original at the cost of introducing two addtional names for the same content.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 07:36, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::: Round two of comments :-)<br />
:::* Proposals 1, 7, 9: If you think there's no need to change the disambiguation suffix, then I won't press the matter. It's just how I would have done it, but I guess there's no need to be religious about it :-).<br />
:::* Proposal 5: Well, our rules pretty clearly state that "[...] you should parenthetically append the container title [...] to the title of the essay [...]". (search for "Standard Titles" on [[Help:Screen:EditPub|this wiki page]] to find the source of the quote). So having "About the Author (Elizabeth Emmett)" is, I think, not something we should do. But I'm fine with "About the Author (Elizabeth Emmett) (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)". After thinking more about it, I would also be fine with a simple pub note.<br />
:::* Proposal 8: I really think we should disambiguate this. "S-F Books: 1960" is just too generic, it should become "S-F Books: 1960 (The 6th Annual of the Year's Best S-F)".<br />
:::* Proposals 3, 4, 6: I see that you already fixed those, thanks for that.<br />
::: Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 15:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::::Here are my thoughts - I only have the UK edition:<br />
:::: 1,7, 9 - dont feel strongly<br />
:::: 2 Agreed<br />
:::: 3 Agreed<br />
:::: 4 Agreed<br />
:::: 5 Really not sure about this one<br />
:::: 6 I agree will observation above re "Jr." being in both TOC and Title Page<br />
:::: 8 I would disambiguate [[User:Prof beard|Prof beard]] 08:20, 24 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The Masks of Time - Star, 1982 ==<br />
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Hi, I think the cover art of {{P|567565|this edition}} is by Bruce Pennington, he did other [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisheryear.cgi?632+1982 1982 Star covers] for Silverberg too.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 21:45, 20 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks for the hint. I've now uploaded the cover and made a submission using [http://ski-ffy.blogspot.ch/2012/03/masks-of-time.html this site] as the source for the Pennington credit. Hope that's reliable enough. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 23:28, 20 April 2016 (UTC)</div>Prof beardhttps://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Prof_beard&diff=425466User talk:Prof beard2016-04-15T10:23:31Z<p>Prof beard: /* Primary verified publication without a binding */</p>
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