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Hi, I'm a bit at a loss for what you are trying to accomplish with the change in preferred name. Isfdb policy is to grant a most common name used in publications as the so-called canonical name, regardless whether that is the 'true' name of the author or not. And even when 'Anya Johanna DeNiro' were to be that canonical name, then would all pre name change publications still have the original name as 'as published by', as we do not falsify history. See e.g. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2161 R. L. Fanthorpe] as an example what it means in our database to have multiple names under which your work came out. Any name change for Fanthorpe would not 'solve' anything either, all work would come under the new name just as it appeared under the old (minus one -the change- and with one added: Fanhorpe, the original name). I hope I've made myself clear, if not do not be afraid to ask questions.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 19:56, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
 
Hi, I'm a bit at a loss for what you are trying to accomplish with the change in preferred name. Isfdb policy is to grant a most common name used in publications as the so-called canonical name, regardless whether that is the 'true' name of the author or not. And even when 'Anya Johanna DeNiro' were to be that canonical name, then would all pre name change publications still have the original name as 'as published by', as we do not falsify history. See e.g. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2161 R. L. Fanthorpe] as an example what it means in our database to have multiple names under which your work came out. Any name change for Fanthorpe would not 'solve' anything either, all work would come under the new name just as it appeared under the old (minus one -the change- and with one added: Fanhorpe, the original name). I hope I've made myself clear, if not do not be afraid to ask questions.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 19:56, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
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Hi Dirk,
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A policy that treats somebody's gender identity as a pseudonym implies that their gender identity is fake. That has the potential to be incredibly harmful to transgender people, who already face significant bullying and attacks online.
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I would encourage you to consider changing your policy to whatever that person has most recently self-identified as, similar to Wikipedia's policy on gender identity: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Gender_identity
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If you're not familiar with transgender issues, I know this can seem confusing and unnecessary. But although it might require a little bit more work for ISFDB it's  really a small change, and it can really have a big impact on transgender authors. Here's an article that talks about the negative effects being referred to by birth name can have on transgender people: https://www.healthline.com/health/transgender/deadnaming#media
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I would be happy to talk with you more about this if that would be helpful. You can feel free to email me at stewart.c.baker@gmail.com if that's easier than a talk page discussion.

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Anya Johanna DeNiro

Hi, I'm a bit at a loss for what you are trying to accomplish with the change in preferred name. Isfdb policy is to grant a most common name used in publications as the so-called canonical name, regardless whether that is the 'true' name of the author or not. And even when 'Anya Johanna DeNiro' were to be that canonical name, then would all pre name change publications still have the original name as 'as published by', as we do not falsify history. See e.g. R. L. Fanthorpe as an example what it means in our database to have multiple names under which your work came out. Any name change for Fanthorpe would not 'solve' anything either, all work would come under the new name just as it appeared under the old (minus one -the change- and with one added: Fanhorpe, the original name). I hope I've made myself clear, if not do not be afraid to ask questions.--Dirk P Broer 19:56, 22 September 2018 (EDT)

Hi Dirk,

A policy that treats somebody's gender identity as a pseudonym implies that their gender identity is fake. That has the potential to be incredibly harmful to transgender people, who already face significant bullying and attacks online. I would encourage you to consider changing your policy to whatever that person has most recently self-identified as, similar to Wikipedia's policy on gender identity: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Gender_identity

If you're not familiar with transgender issues, I know this can seem confusing and unnecessary. But although it might require a little bit more work for ISFDB it's really a small change, and it can really have a big impact on transgender authors. Here's an article that talks about the negative effects being referred to by birth name can have on transgender people: https://www.healthline.com/health/transgender/deadnaming#media

I would be happy to talk with you more about this if that would be helpful. You can feel free to email me at stewart.c.baker@gmail.com if that's easier than a talk page discussion.

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