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::As I read that standard, you would only want to include bracketed numbers in the page count if you were listing content in that range in the contents.  Also, if you take a look at the fifth bullet in the same help section, you'll notice that we don't use bracketed numbers when it's only the last few pages that omit numbering.  If it were me I would not add a bracketed number in the page count, even if I were entering the content on those pages.  I would simply count forward from the last Roman numbered pages to determine which page to list for the content in that range.  A note could also be added indicating the lack of numbers on those pages.  If I correctly recall the discussion when we added the bracketed numbers as a standard, the purpose was to cover situations where there was significant content (like an excerpt from a forthcoming book) on unnumbered pages.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 
::As I read that standard, you would only want to include bracketed numbers in the page count if you were listing content in that range in the contents.  Also, if you take a look at the fifth bullet in the same help section, you'll notice that we don't use bracketed numbers when it's only the last few pages that omit numbering.  If it were me I would not add a bracketed number in the page count, even if I were entering the content on those pages.  I would simply count forward from the last Roman numbered pages to determine which page to list for the content in that range.  A note could also be added indicating the lack of numbers on those pages.  If I correctly recall the discussion when we added the bracketed numbers as a standard, the purpose was to cover situations where there was significant content (like an excerpt from a forthcoming book) on unnumbered pages.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 13:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
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:::The third bullet point is a little vague as written, but I do understand what you are getting at. So the 4 unnumbered pages that appear before page 1 in this publication are assumed to be pages xv-xviii. Sorry for all my confusion. As the original pagination does not account for the 4 pages of content, would you permit me to indicate it as "xviii+670"? I know you say this is okay, but I just want to verify again that this would be permissible. I appreciate your patience with my learning the editing rules for ISFDB. This site is a fantastic resource for libraries and me personally. Cheers. --Randy [[User:Rns1963|Rns1963]] 02:13, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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The Maker of Universes Cover

I accepted your edit to The Maker of Universes, but had to edit the credit from "Vallejo, Boris"to "Boris Vallejo". ISFDB uses 'First Last' convention in keeping with how credits are almost always shown in publications. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:50, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. It was the cataloger in me. I'll try to remember in the future. Thanks for informing me. --Randy Rns1963 12:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Magician's Gambit

Hello, I rejected your submission because the series data that you intended to add is already present at title level. I've kept your notes. Hauck 05:37, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah! My apologies for the error. Thanks for clarifying that. --Randy Rns1963 12:39, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Notifying PVs

Hello, please note that our etiquette requires you to notify other PVs of the changes you made to their verified publications (the level of needed notification may vary, see on top of their user's pages). Please notify Holmesd here of the changes you made to this pub (see on the page how it's usually done). Thanks. Hauck 15:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Will do. I have now contacted Holmesd. Thanks again for correcting me. --Randy Rns1963 15:30, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
No problem, this part of the process (notifying other PVs) is sometimes a bit time-consuming but is useful for other contributors (who often maintain their own private databases) and may bring to light some interesting points. Thanks for your time. Hauck 15:34, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

"Data from Amazon" (and other places) notes

Hi. I accepted your changes to The Long-Lost Map, and thank you very much for making yourself primary verifier. But now one more to-do thing for you. :-) When you do verify a publication, you should also adjust any note that looks like "Data from <secondary source>". If everything in the record is available from the book itself, delete that note entirely. If something in the record is not available in the book, make the note more specific. For example, "No price on book. Price from Amazon.com as of 2016-04-25." Anything not documented as coming from another source is assumed to come from the book itself (which is the preferred source). Thanks, and thank you for contributing. --MartyD 03:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

   Ah! Thank you for pointing that out. Cheers! Rns1963 03:08, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

The Eye of the World

I approved your edit to Jordan's The Eye of the World. However, I undid part of your edit. You had changed the page count to "xiv, [4], 670". If you take a look at this help page, under the third bullet, you'll see that we only include a bracketed count of unnumbered pages when there is content that appears on those pages that we are listing in the record. Since you didn't add any content that occurs in that section, I changed it back to "xiv+670". I should also point out that even if we would have wanted to add an unnumbered section of pages for this publication, we separate the page sections with a plus sign, instead of a comma. Thus, if it should have been included, it should have been entered as "xiv+[4]+670". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

The 4 unnumbered pages do contain maps and some text. Would that qualify?Rns1963 02:43, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
As I read that standard, you would only want to include bracketed numbers in the page count if you were listing content in that range in the contents. Also, if you take a look at the fifth bullet in the same help section, you'll notice that we don't use bracketed numbers when it's only the last few pages that omit numbering. If it were me I would not add a bracketed number in the page count, even if I were entering the content on those pages. I would simply count forward from the last Roman numbered pages to determine which page to list for the content in that range. A note could also be added indicating the lack of numbers on those pages. If I correctly recall the discussion when we added the bracketed numbers as a standard, the purpose was to cover situations where there was significant content (like an excerpt from a forthcoming book) on unnumbered pages. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
The third bullet point is a little vague as written, but I do understand what you are getting at. So the 4 unnumbered pages that appear before page 1 in this publication are assumed to be pages xv-xviii. Sorry for all my confusion. As the original pagination does not account for the 4 pages of content, would you permit me to indicate it as "xviii+670"? I know you say this is okay, but I just want to verify again that this would be permissible. I appreciate your patience with my learning the editing rules for ISFDB. This site is a fantastic resource for libraries and me personally. Cheers. --Randy Rns1963 02:13, 12 May 2016 (UTC)