User talk:Mythicdelirium

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I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! BLongley 01:35, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Mythic Delirium 1

Thanks for submitting what I hope is the first of many issues! I've made a few adjustments to conform to ISFDB standards, you can see the results here. Basically I added the issue number so that it will appear separately from any other issues like Number 20 (a stub record I created to record the Rhysling Award Winner). You seem to have got all the titles and author names in nicely standard format already, which is frankly quite unusual, well done! BLongley 01:55, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Minor questions - are you in a position to grant us permission to lift the cover image from mythicdelirium.com ? If not, we'd rather have a local copy uploaded, or a link to an approved site, than end up accused of "bandwidth theft". And for The Reluctant Heretic (from "Inquisition Sonnets"), is "from Inquisition Sonnets" actually part of the title, or is it a comment on where else it has been published? If the latter, we'd want to record "Inquisition Sonnets" as a separate collection or anthology with that as one of the contents. (We do try to be very complete.) Thanks for contributing! BLongley 01:55, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I am indeed in a position to grant that permission. Permission granted! Mythicdelirium 00:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll try and remember where I am supposed to record that permission so that every other Mod knows to allow such. Thanks! BLongley 00:59, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

And "from Inquisition Sonnets" is part of the title. I didn't see this stuff till after I uploaded Issue 2 information, will adjust accordingly. Mythicdelirium 00:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

We can't spot new editors just from account creation, we have to wait for actual submissions and then we'll jump on them with (hopefully helpful) welcomes and pointers to the help pages, and then offer advice. You're unusually good for a beginner, did you actually read our help before you started? BLongley 00:59, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

I did! Mythicdelirium 04:22, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Mythic Delirium 2-4

Thanks for these! As before, pretty good submissions and I only made minor changes: a "." after the "P" in Deborah P. Kolodji and a space after "J." for J. W. Donnelly and after the "K." for K. S. Hardy. The software can cope with slight differences in case but isn't so good with punctuation. :-/ BLongley 01:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

I adjusted "$5" to "$5.00" to conform with our standard - I'm not sure why we have that standard, but I'm English and understand as much of the reasoning as there is behind our entries for "Pounds, Shillings and Pence" for older British publications. BLongley 01:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

As to "I added four too many content fields and couldn't figure out how to remove them. Sorry about that!" - don't worry, we wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it, the software removed the excess for us anyway. I think there is a problem if you leave an entirely blank entry and still have some more after that - the software stops at the end of the list or at the first blank entry, so it's best not to leave a gap. BLongley 01:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Anyway, I look forward to the rest of your submissions, you're a pleasure to work with so far. BLongley 01:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, thank you! (I submitted one more before I saw these.) Mythicdelirium 04:23, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Typical...

... You wait two weeks for another issue to come along, give up waiting and make your own way, then it arrives! :-/ I've been entering stubs for all the missing issues today - see here so please work on adjusting those rather than submitting totally new editions - and let ME know where I went wrong. I'll try and tidy up the issues we crossed on. Thanks for coming back to it! BLongley 21:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

"illustration" is a bit too vague - please use the name of the story it illustrates, or if it's not illustrating any particular story, give it the name of the caption, or if it doesn't even have that, add the name of the publication it's in as a suffix. BLongley 21:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the page numbers and illustrations for Issue 22. As above, please consider a better name than "illustration". And regular columns like "Myths & Delusions" should have the name of the publication it's in as a suffix - it would save space here to merge them all, but somebody might want to add details about what each particularly essay was about, so we try and disambiguate them. BLongley 23:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Also, Tim Millins looks suspiciously like a typo for Tim Mullins, can you double-check please? BLongley 21:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notes! Will fix to conform. (And, yes, that's a typo.) --Mythicdelirium 04:30, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Frontispiece titling

(entitlement?) Hi, and welcome. It's not at all clear in the help, but for that Mullins artwork in Mythic Delirum, Free Sampler Issue, 2004, if it's titled "frontispiece", what you have done is fine. If it's an untitled frontispiece, we would use the name of the publication instead (i.e., "Mythic Delirum, Free Sampler Issue, 2004"), and you can optionally add " (frontispiece)" to that. If you think about it from the artist's "bibliography" point of view (Tim Mullins), multiple frontispieces "frontispiece" would be indistinguishable from one another. Thanks, and thank you for contributing. --MartyD 11:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

In this case, it's actually an illustration reprinted from a previous issue. How should that be handled? --Mythicdelirium 03:08, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

In a bit of a coincidence, we've recently been discussing artwork handling, although that is more focused on cover art then reused elsewhere. If the illustration is not titled/captioned, then what we'd do is give each the title appropriate for its use (e.g., where it illustrated a story, we'd use "Story Title", and where it's the frontispiece we'd use "Mythic Delerium, Free Sampler Issue, 2004 (frontispiece)"). Then we would make the reprint a "variant" of the original, which would cause both to show up as related in Mullins' bibliographic summary. I'm happy to set this up if you tell me which is the other printing. --MartyD 10:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

If you would like to try it yourself.... If you go to the frontispiece, at the left you will see "Edit Title Data" (where you could change the title itself, its date, etc.), and you will also see "Make this Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work". That latter lets you do the linking. To link to an existing title, you need to know its ID, which is the number you see at the end of the URL when you are viewing it. E.g., for the frontispiece, the URL will appear as http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1339805, so the ID for the frontispiece title is 1339805. You would need to do this with the other printing, then come back to the frontispiece and make it the variant, using that other printing's ID as the "parent ID". Feel free to try it -- you can't hurt anything -- and ask if you get stuck. You're also under no obligation; I'm happy to take care of it if you'd rather. Thanks. --MartyD 10:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Multiple illustrations for the same work

Hi again. One more thing.... If you have multiple pieces of art illustrating the same story, we add "[2]", "[3]", etc. on the subsequent ones. (Sorry, I don't know why we don't add "[1]" to the first one). I did this for the pieces in Issue 6 so you can see what it looks like. --MartyD 11:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Mythic Delirium, July–September 2013

Hello, I've approved your submission for this issue of the magazine. I've made some changes to conform to our standards: 1) deleted SeriesNum ("0.1") either this goes at title level or in the notes as you did, 2) added currency symbol (remember that we're an international outfit and that not everyone here uses USD), 3) deleted PubSeries info (a magazine is not a publication series, an information that only concern other types of books), 4) uploaded a scan into our system as we're not allowed to deeplink to the specified website, 5) regularized "C.S.E. Cooney" to "C. S. E. Cooney" (as is already present in the db), 6) set the date to 2013-07 (we use the cover date for magazines). The result is here. Hauck 18:15, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Your recent submissions

Hello, during the approving phase for your recent submission, I've moticed some little things to be ironed out: 1) when disambiguating multiple illustrations for the same text, use "[]" instead of "()" so I've transformed The Serpent Explains the Nature of Tricksters to His Wife (2) into The Serpent Explains the Nature of Tricksters to His Wife [2]; 2) remember to variant the pseudonymistic titles after approval, so (for example) all titles by Paula Friedlander should be varianted to the canonical author Paula Arwen Owen; 3) do not hesitate to normalize (ISFDB-wise, e.g. adding spaces and full stops) some author's names, for example your recently created K J Pereira is very likely K. L. Pereira. Thanks for adding precious data to the db. Hauck 07:20, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Magazine titles, issue numbers, and dates

It's counter-intuitive, but if you'd like the issue number to show up in the magazine grid, put the number AFTER the comma in the title. E.g., Mythic Delirium, 5 Summer/Fall 2001. You can put another comma between the number and date if you want to. The grid works by finding the first comma from the left and taking everything after that for the display, dropping any 4-digit year. See, for example, Clarksworld or for something really funky Crypt of Cthulhu. You do not have to do it this way, I'm just mentioning it so that you're aware of the possibility. --MartyD 11:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Aha, I see! I've been trying to standardize how the issues are named as I go, but knowing this, I'll adjust accordingly. --Mythicdelirium 16:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Seriesnum

Hello, as said above this field is useless for magazine and will disappear when the yearly grouping will be done. I've rejected your submissions and only kept the other changes.. Hauck 18:14, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Author's names

Hello, please remember that we systematically enter spaces between initials so I changed your proposed "Lucien E.G. Spelman" (unknown to us) to "Lucien E. G. Spelman" (that is known to us). Hauck 07:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. A further question--how do I handle indicating a reprint? (For example, every poem and illustration in Issue 30 is a reprint.) Is that done using the "make variant" feature?--Mythicdelirium 15:42, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

You should enter the first publication dates (if known) into the associated fields for the contents (or, if the title is already in the database, you can leave tha one out, and merge the titles in a further step). Stonecreek 15:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

It's also possible to import single titles (also via the toolbar on the left). Stonecreek 15:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Note that I've merged all the pre-existing titles.Hauck 16:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Introducton (Disturbing Muses)

Would you please double check the spelling of "introducton" in Introducton (Disturbing Muses) (from your verified Disturbing Muses)? If the typo is only in the database, it should be corrected. If the typo is also in the pub, a note should be added. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for spotting that, I fixed it.--Mythicdelirium 20:10, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Mythic Delirium, Issue 4.1, July–September 2017

Hello,

I accepted your addition of Mythic Delirium, Issue 4.1, July–September 2017. However I moved the site reference from the title record to the notes in the publication record - we save editors by having a single title per year (I did the merge for this issue) so a single issue reference does not fit on the title level. It would have been lost after the merge so I moved it. Feel free to reword the message in the Pub not if you would like a different wording. Thanks! Annie 18:42, 3 July 2017 (EDT)

KL Pereira

Could you confirm that you print KL Pereira's name without periods between the initials, and that is the way she wants it printed? I am trying to get the database to use that spelling for her name. --Vasha 16:06, 22 January 2018 (EST)

I can confirm that she prefers KL, no periods. I have a DM in my records in which she specifically answered that question.--Mythicdelirium 20:27, 30 January 2018 (EST)

Strange Wisdoms of the Dead

Hello,

I approved your addition of the image here but reversed the change in the coverart title and date and added the new details as a note to the record. Even when a well-known picture is used as a cover, the name of the record should remain the same as the title of the book and you can add the details for the actual picture as a note. In case the picture is used as an interior art somewhere, then the cover can be varianted to it but we do not generally create titles for the original art itself in cases like this. Annie 22:42, 22 April 2018 (EDT)