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== Welcome Back! ==
 
== Welcome Back! ==
  
I'm holding a few of your submissions for review.
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I'm holding a few of your submissions for review.
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#There's one in which you wish to change [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846265 this title] from ANTHOLOGY to OMNIBUS.  There was a discussion awhile back that the Tor Doubles were for the most part an anthology of two novellas, instead of an omnibus containing a novel.  Yes, this is a subjective interpretation, but most of the Tor Doubles have been changed to anthologies.  (I just checked and there are a few stragglers out there.)   
 
#There's one in which you wish to change [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?846265 this title] from ANTHOLOGY to OMNIBUS.  There was a discussion awhile back that the Tor Doubles were for the most part an anthology of two novellas, instead of an omnibus containing a novel.  Yes, this is a subjective interpretation, but most of the Tor Doubles have been changed to anthologies.  (I just checked and there are a few stragglers out there.)   
 
#Another submission wants to make [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?950584 The Furthest Horizon] into a variant of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?36444 The Furthest Horizon: SF Adventures to the Far Future].  That first title only appears in an omnibus ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?XPLRNGTHHR2000 Exploring the Horizons]) of two anthologies, and I'll leave a note with the verifier of that omnibus to see how it's titled.   
 
#Another submission wants to make [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?950584 The Furthest Horizon] into a variant of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?36444 The Furthest Horizon: SF Adventures to the Far Future].  That first title only appears in an omnibus ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?XPLRNGTHHR2000 Exploring the Horizons]) of two anthologies, and I'll leave a note with the verifier of that omnibus to see how it's titled.   
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Please let me know how you feel about the first submission, and I'll get back when I have the verifier check his copy of the second submission.  Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|MHHutchins]] 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 
Please let me know how you feel about the first submission, and I'll get back when I have the verifier check his copy of the second submission.  Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|MHHutchins]] 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
  
:Sorry, I was wrong about the second submission.  I just noticed the difference in the titles. ''Exploring the Horizons'' and ''Exploring Far Horizons''.  I'll go ahead and drop that title from the omnibus.  Mea culpa. [[User:Mhhutchins|MHHutchins]] 19:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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Sorry, I was wrong about the second submission.  I just noticed the difference in the titles. ''Exploring the Horizons'' and ''Exploring Far Horizons''.  I'll go ahead and drop that title from the omnibus.  Mea culpa. [[User:Mhhutchins|MHHutchins]] 19:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
  
 
::Just jumping in to say "Welcome back"! :-) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 23:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 
::Just jumping in to say "Welcome back"! :-) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 23:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
  
:::I approved the submission making ''The Furthest Horizon'' a variant title.  That leaves the Tor Double.  Let me know your feelings about rejecting it based on the current standards. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|MHHutchins]] 02:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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I approved the submission making ''The Furthest Horizon'' a variant title.  That leaves the Tor Double.  Let me know your feelings about rejecting it based on the current standards. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|MHHutchins]] 02:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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::: Hi, thanks for the welcome. Having been booted from Wikipedia as "giant sockfarm" (!!!) and ending my previous job, I should appear here more consistently, though I can't be sure about how much time I'll be able to dedicate.
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:::Re 1 - I see: my point was that {{A|Fritz Leiber}} had two [[Publisher:Tom Doherty Associates#Tor Doubles|Tor Doubles]], one of them listed as Anthology and the other as Omnibus. Just my luck that I chose the wrong option to unify them - doubly wrong as I don't like the policy: While dos books may be closer in principle to anthologies than omnibuses from one viewpoint, their editor is anonymous and they don't fit well among the real anthologies the author in question edited. Oh well, democratic centralism; though I don't think I can make myself change the other Double into an anthology... :-)
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::: As for Dozois (I did a slight check after discovering yesterday that he was born on the same day as my father), see my comments at [[Author:Gardner Dozois]]: there are some omnibus problems, also Prefaces to ''Explorers'' and ''Horizons'' remain as two unconnected variants, so verification of the SFBC volume would be nice.
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::: See you - what's the English (or Russian, come to think of it) for "čest práci"? --[[User:JV|JV]][[User talk:JVjr|jr]] 15:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Archive of older discussions: User talk:JVjr/Pre-moderatorship, User talk:JVjr/Pre-spam

Changes to user rights

Just to let you know that there was a discussion of the best way to handle inactive moderators over on ISFDB talk:Policy. The executive summary of the discussion is that a moderator who hasn't been active for a over a year will have a hard time keeping up with all the policy and software changes that we have been going through. ISFDB:Policy has been updated accordingly and, since you haven't been active since 2007, I have turned your "moderator" flag off, so when you come back, you won't be able to approve submissions. No need to panic, though :) as we have a list of Moderator Qualifications and you can reclaim the ability to approve submissions once you go through the process. Hope to see you again when you have time for the ISFDB! Ahasuerus 05:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome Back!

I'm holding a few of your submissions for review.

  1. There's one in which you wish to change this title from ANTHOLOGY to OMNIBUS. There was a discussion awhile back that the Tor Doubles were for the most part an anthology of two novellas, instead of an omnibus containing a novel. Yes, this is a subjective interpretation, but most of the Tor Doubles have been changed to anthologies. (I just checked and there are a few stragglers out there.)
  2. Another submission wants to make The Furthest Horizon into a variant of The Furthest Horizon: SF Adventures to the Far Future. That first title only appears in an omnibus (Exploring the Horizons) of two anthologies, and I'll leave a note with the verifier of that omnibus to see how it's titled.
  3. The last submission that I'm holding wants to remove the title record from the same omnibus. The only reason why it is visible in the omnibus is because the title record is mistakenly typed as an ANTHOLOGY. If you change that record to an OMNIBUS, it will no longer be visible in the list of contents (that's what we want.) I'm going to go ahead and reject this submission, then change the title record's type and you'll see what I mean.

Please let me know how you feel about the first submission, and I'll get back when I have the verifier check his copy of the second submission. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was wrong about the second submission. I just noticed the difference in the titles. Exploring the Horizons and Exploring Far Horizons. I'll go ahead and drop that title from the omnibus. Mea culpa. MHHutchins 19:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Just jumping in to say "Welcome back"! :-) Ahasuerus 23:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I approved the submission making The Furthest Horizon a variant title. That leaves the Tor Double. Let me know your feelings about rejecting it based on the current standards. Thanks. MHHutchins 02:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the welcome. Having been booted from Wikipedia as "giant sockfarm" (!!!) and ending my previous job, I should appear here more consistently, though I can't be sure about how much time I'll be able to dedicate.
Re 1 - I see: my point was that Fritz Leiber had two Tor Doubles, one of them listed as Anthology and the other as Omnibus. Just my luck that I chose the wrong option to unify them - doubly wrong as I don't like the policy: While dos books may be closer in principle to anthologies than omnibuses from one viewpoint, their editor is anonymous and they don't fit well among the real anthologies the author in question edited. Oh well, democratic centralism; though I don't think I can make myself change the other Double into an anthology... :-)
As for Dozois (I did a slight check after discovering yesterday that he was born on the same day as my father), see my comments at Author:Gardner Dozois: there are some omnibus problems, also Prefaces to Explorers and Horizons remain as two unconnected variants, so verification of the SFBC volume would be nice.
See you - what's the English (or Russian, come to think of it) for "čest práci"? --JVjr 15:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)