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Elsie Young, Author of 'The Secret of Yesterday Hills', (1990[?])

I am attempting to contact Elsie Young. I can find nothing on Google. I am merely wishing to gain her permission to use some extracts from 'The Secret of Yesterday Hills' as a teaching resource. Noel McDonough noelpam@gmail.com 0403 354 619 (Australia)

I am afraid we are a bibliographic database and, as such, are not the best place to contact authors. If an author has a publicly disclosed email address, we add it to our "author record", but other than that we rarely have a way to contact anyone. Ahasuerus 14:07, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

There are a few references online, like this, https://www.bookdepository.com/Spectrum-Blue-Recommended-for-9-11-Yrs-Secret-Yesterday-Hills-Elsie-Young/9780729509015, to that title being published by Pascal Press (possibly a reprint since it says Harcourt elsewhere), and this, https://books.google.com/books?id=qdM-o833ZWQC, also published by Pascal Press, has extracts including from Yesterday Hills. It also gives Pascal's address, PO Box 250, Glebe NSW 2037, and their phone #, (02) 8585 4044, and their website, www.pascalpress.com.au. Their website is on Archive.org going back to 1998 and they're still alive today, so Pascal would likely be the ones to give permission. There's so many people named Elsie Young online who knows if any of them are this author. --Username 14:48, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Alphabetical Sorting

I was working with Edgar Rice Burroughs' bibliography sorted alphabetically, and I discovered something surprising. The sort appears to order upper case letters before lower case letters. For example, "Tarzan Triumphant" is sorted before "Tarzan and 'The Foreign Legion'". It's certainly a valid way of sorting (all uppercase before all lowercase), but, to me, was unexpected. How do others expect the ordering? I'll also raise a second issue while we're on the subject of sorting, though I suspect it would be more complicated to change. If initial articles could be ignored, that would be easier to work with. It's not that big a deal in the author bibliographies, but navigating the magazine directory for TH is maybe getting a bit unwieldy. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 07:36, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Let me check what the software does internally... Ahasuerus 12:29, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

It turns out that it was a bug. Normally, when the ISFDB software retrieves data from the database, the sorting happens within the database, which is configured to sort English characters in a case-insensitive manner. However, the alphabetical page is a bit different. For performance reasons, it queries the database twice -- once to get all matching canonical titles and then again to get all matching variant titles. The software then combines the two sets of titles and re-sorts the results. It was that last operation, re-sorting, that was done in a case-sensitive fashion. The bug has been fixed, so everything should be back to normal. (For values of "normal" which exclude non-English characters, but that's a whole different can of worms.)

Re: ignoring initial titles, you are right that it would be more difficult to change. Ahasuerus 13:35, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the bibliography sort. I'm used to articles being included, so no worries on the other. Thanks again. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 18:10, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Bunn

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?119021; Mr. Bunn's 2012 collection Creeping Stones was entered here in 2014, but not the contents. I did that today, but it was a bit tough. Many stories were already here and could be imported, but many were not. Knowing it was unlikely he wrote so many new stories, I checked bibliography on his website, cullenbunn.com, and saw that almost all were reprints from online zines or genre publications too obscure even for ISFDB. Most had dates, but a couple did not, so I had to trawl through his archived site for 1 story and got the date for the other from a scant couple of mentions on Google, 1 from a French (?) site that listed it as a potential nominee for a 2007 Stoker Award, and the other from an old March 2006 horror.org newsletter mentioning the publisher of the chapbook where the story appeared, NAKED SNAKE. I tweeted Mr. Bunn to ask if he could verify the info I entered, but who knows if he'll respond or if he even remembers exact info anymore. Weird thing is that the publisher of Creeping Stones, Evileye Books, had a website, evileyebooks.com, which is archived, but ends with "robots.txt" a year before Creeping Stones was published. On a related note, 1 of the last mentions before they went dark was Bunn's novel, Crooked Hills, which has a preorder page in Feb. 2011 and then apparently was published in Fall 2011. ISFDB, however, lists publisher for that book as Earwig Press. Looking on Google, Bunn's Wikipedia page mentions it was published by Earwig Press/Evileye Books. So maybe Earwig was an imprint? If anyone owns a copy of either of these books and can verify titles for Creeping Stones (and add page numbers for each story and check if there's a "first publication" page to see if dates match with ones entered here) or verify which publisher is listed for Crooked Hills, that would be great. --Username 12:19, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Hands Across America

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1602608; https://thebedlamfiles.com/fiction/the-coming-self-destruction-of-the-usa/; I added cover to Souvenir months ago, but Grove eludes me, and I stumbled across Bedlam Files page with different and creepy cover by Panther; anyone here who can add Grove cover or find out whether that Panther is an earlier or later edition? ISBN on cover is same for both, but they had a habit of using different covers when they reprinted. --Username 20:17, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Different Penguins

Did some fixing for O. Sitwell's Triple Fugue, noticed editor used wrong cover from a later reprint, replaced with right one, checked all 1940 Penguin books here and saw the difference; on older book the penguin logo is standing straight and tall, while later logo has him bent over. When exactly they changed it (and why) is unknown. --Username 22:00, 3 July 2021 (EDT)

Elvira Nude

https://www.amazon.com/Scream-Queens-Very-Best-Society/dp/B001VC6D16; there are 3 books on ISFDB by Drake Publishers, all non-fiction, and they published a lot of other textbooks and such. They were bought out by a guy who owned a bunch of "adult" magazines like Playgirl and High Society, and many years later they were busted for the biggest online credit card fraud case in history. That's not relevant here, but that Amazon link is; apparently in 1991 High Society, a hardcore pornographic magazine, published a horror issue?!? I assume the Elvira shots the cover refers to were taken from 1 of the R-rated movies Cassandra Peterson made in the 70's before she became "Elvira". I wonder if anyone here will admit to owning a copy of this and find out if there's any short stories, interviews, etc. that can be entered here? --Username 11:58, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

Náhuatl

Is it possible to add Náhuatl to the list of available languages? John Scifibones 12:16, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

As per this rule, "only ISO 639-2-recognized languages are supposed to be added to the ISFDB". It so happens that "Nahuatl languages" is an ISO 639-2-recognized group of languages, so we can add it. FR 1421 has been created. Please note that non-English characters are currently not supported in language names, so it will be called "Nahuatl languages" within the ISFDB database. Ahasuerus 12:42, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

Thank you John Scifibones 12:48, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

Done -- Tsintatak has been updated. Ahasuerus 15:16, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

AML Award

Can we add "AML Award" to the list of awards? It's a non-genre award that (over the years, since 1975) has given various category awards to around 100 different genre works and authors/editors. It's a juried award, given by a panel of judges. You can read more here. I'll populate it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:29, 8 July 2021 (EDT)

Looks good to me. Ahasuerus 20:43, 8 July 2021 (EDT)

New Award Type has been created. Populate away! Ahasuerus 18:49, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

Will do. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:29, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

All entered up to the most recent awards given in June 2021. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:18, 2 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks! Ahasuerus 15:47, 2 August 2021 (EDT)

Horror Shorts

When I discovered The Internet Archive a few years ago, 1 of the great things about it was all the horror fiction that can't be found on modern websites. I thought it would be cool to keep a running tally of Archive links I add to ISFDB records, so I'll start today with a great story I read a while back, https://web.archive.org/web/20190323143104/http://kentbrewster.com/flowsnakes/. It's from the sci-fi/horror zine Aberrations in 1995. Weird thing is that his website seemed to end in 2019 and then was taken over by a brewing company, because his last name is Brewster. That archived page seems to be the last working link to this story on the web. --Username 19:46, 8 July 2021 (EDT)

Unfortunately, it happens fairly often -- domain registration expires and then some other company picks it up. It makes our (and SFE3's) links to third party sites more ephemeral than we would like them to be :-( Ahasuerus 20:45, 8 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20060614191255/http://www.joecliffordfaust.com/library/tools.html; I remember reading this story years ago, but trying to find the archived page was tough because Mr. Faust seemed to change the layout of his website over and over again; finally found it, and there's only 2 archived pages, so this is a rare one. --Username 20:53, 8 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20070411162353/www.buried.com/features/ellies_boy.pdf; Buried.com used to be a major horror news site, and also included some horror fiction; there's still a page on Google with some fiction, http://www.buried.com/features/novels.shtml, but the archived page includes others that don't exist online anymore. Rio Youers became a major horror/fantasy writer, but Ellie's Boy was published nearly 10 years before any of his work on ISFDB, and apparently he gave Buried.com permission to reprint it as a PDF, which is good because finding much info for it nowadays is almost impossible, not even a cover image. --Username 23:36, 8 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20040210222345/http://johnrosenman.hypermart.net/excerpts.htm; in addition to some excerpts, link includes 2 complete stories, "Eyes of the Leopard" and "The Blue of Her Hair, The Gold of Her Eyes", both Stoker Award contenders. "Eyes..." is from one of Lone Wolf's CD-only anthologies and wasn't entered here so I entered it. --Username 11:46, 9 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20071211164058/http://www.steveharris.razorgang.com/escapefromdoughnutcity.htm; https://web.archive.org/web/20071211164123/http://www.steveharris.razorgang.com/lonelyhearts.htm; https://web.archive.org/web/20010421142515/http://www.imaginary-worlds.com/authors/harris-lh.html; https://web.archive.org/web/20010422074315/http://www.imaginary-worlds.com/authors/harris-rg.html; Harris wrote a bunch of fat horror novels in the 1990's, 1 of which was published by Tor in America, but he also wrote a few short stories. Imaginary Worlds published a few books, and their old website featured some fiction, including the 2 long stories linked above. "Lonely Hearts" was in 3 British publications but never made it to America (not sure if Harris updated it for his website so I included both links), and "Razor Girl" is possibly original since there's not a mention of it anywhere online; however, there's a link on ISFDB to Harris' old website, razorgang.com, and that phrase is mentioned a few times in the story, so who knows if there's a series of "Razor" stories out there somewhere on the web. Also, there's this on his site, https://web.archive.org/web/20021203053909/http://www.razorgang.com/books/Switch/freeswitch.html, which offers an unpublished novel for free; however, clicking the MS Reader version takes you to another page where you're supposed to right-click and download the book, but there's a scary "HUGE DOMAINS" in place of the cover and it's in .lit format, which probably won't even work on modern computers. If anyone wants to try it, there it is. --Username 14:59, 9 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20010305075903/http://www.larrysantoro.com:80/god.html; https://web.archive.org/web/20011219150255/http://www.larrysantoro.com/hoor.html; Santoro's novel Just North of Nowhere is a fix-up novel which includes 3 old stories as chapters in somewhat different form, as Smashwords' copy says; those links are for 2 of the original stories. Sadly, ""What Do You Know of the Land of Death?" Said Clown One Night to the Haunted Boy" eluded me. --Username 13:59, 10 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/19970401014639/http://www.sff.net/people/Ben_Adams/moving.htp; more a sad mood piece than horror, but it's from Midnight Journeys, a 1995 small-press anthology with only a couple of copies available on Worldcat, so most people probably haven't read it. --Username 13:08, 11 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20020324201715/http://www.users.bigpond.com/pilotage/mainstream.html; Chris Kenworthy published 3 small-press anthologies in the early-mid 1990's, "slipstream" being the buzzword back then, when they were actually pretentious twaddle masquerading as horror fiction. His first anthology, The Sun Rises Red, not only has an unbearable left-wing intro but he filled nearly half the contents with his own stories. 2 of the stories were picked for Best New Horror 4, but that was more of an attempt to balance out the real horror stories with "literary" horror. However, as usual, Nicholas Royle, despite being a fine writer with many mainstream works, never forgot how to write a good horror story, and "The Mainstream" doesn't seem to have been reprinted anywhere, so enjoy reading this creepy tale. The intro and the 2 reprinted stories are also on that site if you really must read them. --Username 19:14, 12 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/19990502075614/http://members.aol.com/Horrorman1/horrorman1.html; Mr. Lucier edited a popular online zine, Alternate Realities, many years ago, and in 2011 had an e-book, Night Walk, which collected 13 stories, most of which are on that link above (there's also a Night Walk 2, but most of the stories in that one eluded me, although I found a couple on Alternate Realities hiding in the giant mess the site exists as on archive.org; 1 story didn't even show until I highlighted the text on the page); not great stories or anything, but some are enjoyable (especially "The Curse of Thoueris", which Lucier reprinted under his preferred title "PENIS OF THE BABOON"), and most come from very obscure magazines or online zines, some of which are not on ISFDB; the only problem is 1 story in Night Walk isn't mentioned anywhere, but since I printed those stories a few years ago the Amazon page for Night Walk dropped its "Look Inside", and the cached Google page has it but it doesn't work. I think the story had "Pigs" in the title, so if anyone has Kindle Unlimited and can read it for free, could you check and see if that story has any mention of where it came from? https://www.amazon.com/Night-Walk-Thirteen-Tales-Unexpected-ebook/dp/B004JF4MYW --Username 00:08, 14 July 2021 (EDT)

Just added 3 story links from here, https://web.archive.org/web/20000129143919/http://www.dragonsoup.com/PeepTom/stuarthughes.html. Hughes was editor of the long-running erotic horror zine Peeping Tom, and his 1997 collection Ocean Eyes is very hard to find. 2 of the stories are from Ocean Eyes while "Are You Sure" wasn't in Ocean Eyes or reprinted as far as I can tell. I didn't add "Clock's Runnin', Mister" or "In His Own Way" since both are on Infinity Plus, which still exists online (and "...Way" is just a 100-word drabble anyway), while "Pay Back Time" is still on stuarthughes.webs.com. "Sweet Laura" is interesting, though, because the few mentions on Google include the fact that a massive anthology titled The Dark Heart of Peeping Tom was published by theExaggeratedPress in 2014 and Google Books has a copy with limited preview. "Sweet Laura" is in there although not part of the preview, and there are many other stories from the pages of Peeping Tom. This book is not on ISFDB, and although I didn't add a link for Hughes' collaboration with D.F. Lewis (because there are hundreds of Lewis stories floating around the web), Hughes and Lewis published a book of their collaborations in 2012, Busy Blood, also from theExaggeratedPress and also not on ISFDB. That publisher only has 4 books on ISFDB, so I'm guessing there's a lot more than these 2 books missing. --Username 09:03, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20111103005338/http://www.paulgtremblay.com/cyoexcerpt.htm; the excerpt is "The Jar" from Brainbox II, a scarce 2001 anthology that was 1 of those electronic/print publications so popular in the late 1990s/early 2000s. However, it was reprinted in Tremblay's 2004 collection Compositions for the Young and Old, which had an odd history, being reprinted a year later by the same publisher with new cover art, a new intro, and some adding/dropping of stories. Both editions are on Google Books (although the new edition isn't on ISFDB). Also weird is that paulgtremblay.com doesn't exist online anymore but Tremblay's TRIPOD site, pgtremblay.tripod.com, still does. Finally, the first story in both editions, "Perfect", which comes from another scarce anthology, 2003's Vivisections, can be read at Google Books in the previews, and is a chilling story about a boy who seeks attention after his mom has another baby and will do ANYTHING to get it. --Username 15:02, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20010716104416/http://www.sff.net/people/jrussell/babyjune.htm; https://web.archive.org/web/19970103002106/http://sff.net/people/jrussell/prolog.htm; 1st link is for one of Russell's Marty Burns stories, while the 2nd is the censored prologue from Russell's 1996 novel Blood. I also found info from Fantastic Fiction that his 2001 novel Brown Harvest was supposed to be published by St. Martin's but was dropped due to content after advice from lawyers; Russell started his career writing nasty splatter stories as "J.S. Russell" so it's not surprising. --Username 19:09, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

Found a mention in ISFDB Notes that a story by the late J.F. Gonzalez, Tattoos, was published on 1000delights.com, so I found and added that link, https://web.archive.org/web/20030605024658/http://www.1000delights.com/stories/tattoos.shtml. There's a story behind this, since 1000 Delights was an "adult" site (not sure if it was just nudes or X-rated stuff) that sent out requests for genre stories in the early 2000s without telling writers what kind of zine they were sending their work to. You can still find a few mentions online today where people complain about that situation. There's several dozen stories archived, although a few that are mentioned in online bibliographies aren't there; I get the feeling when they shut down the site in the mid-2000's they just dumped whatever they had without any quality control, since some of the biographies don't match up with the person who wrote the story. However, among the lame or outright terrible stories are many that were written by well-known or soon-to-be well-known authors. Some of those are just as bad as the unknown writers' stories, but there are some gems among them, some of them erotic horror and some just plain old horror, with a few SF and fantasy tales mixed in. If you visit the archived site, only click links from 2003-2005, because links from 2001-2002 are the old "adult" site and later links from 2010 onwards seem to have been bought up by an antivirus company. --Username 19:56, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20090813150000/http://thomastessier.blog.com/2006/02/; https://web.archive.org/web/20090814184201/http://thomastessier.blog.com/2008/12/01/something-small-and-gray-and-quick/#comments; Mr. Tessier's blog is still online but looks nothing like his old blog, and stories don't seem to be there anymore. Archived site is tough to search because most pages are titled by date so you have to go month by month, but I found those 2 stories above. The first was published on his site before its 2007 anthology appearance and was reprinted in his collection World of Hurt, but contents were never entered on ISFDB so that was a surprise, and the second appeared in a charity horror anthology not on ISFDB, https://patientcreature.livejournal.com/5111.html, and was reprinted in his collection Remorseless, but those contents were never entered either. So finding these stories will lead to 3 other books having their contents entered on ISFDB. UPDATE: turns out as I entered contents of Remorseless from Amazon Look Inside, several stories had their name changed for some reason, and one titled 10-31-2001 says it's from Tessier's blog. Turns out I didn't go all the way to the very end of his old blog and hiding in a post for Halloween 2010 was another story, https://web.archive.org/web/20110511085337/http://www.thomastessier.blog.com/. This one also had its name changed but Remorseless' copyright page didn't bother to mention that; the link for the individual post doesn't work so the story, The Saddest Halloween, is halfway down the page. Not prime Tessier, but there's no trace of it online, so enjoy. --Username 14:18, 17 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20121130060700/http://www.m-s-tem.com/mfic3a.htm; the late Melanie Tem had 2 shorts on her website with her husband, Steve Rasnic Tem; stevetem.com still exists, but the Free Fiction page dropped her story written for the old site, "The Dancing Doll". Earliest archived page is December 1999, so it's old. ISFDB has it reprinted in a 2004 Spanish anthology, Paura, which oddly has Spanish language writers except for Tem and a 1992 story by Michael Arnzen; searching online reveals it was also published in In Delirium II, a horror anthology from Delirium Books which is not on ISFDB (nor is the first volume). So there's another 2 books to be entered. UPDATE: Mr. Tem changes his free story around Christmas, and last year's, "Smoke in a Bottle", is in a few books on ISFDB, none of them easy to find, so here's a link, https://web.archive.org/web/20201220064606/http://stevetem.com/free-fiction/. --Username 13:20, 18 July 2021 (EDT)

I added Jay Woelfel's website to his record; he's known for his horror movies, but published a few stories years ago. This section, https://www.jaywoelfel.com/index.php/writings/, contains 2, the first a children's SF story from a non-genre magazine, but the second, Self-Made Man, is a gross "body horror" tale. What's interesting is it says it's from Greg Gifune's old zine The Edge but the story is not on ISFDB. Turns out of the 20 issues only 14 were entered here, which is usually a sign that philsp.com didn't have the info, but in this case they have info for all issues. I entered rest of contents for #6 and fixed some info for #6 and #7, but some of the higher issues need info fixed and of course those missing issues should be entered. --Username 20:34, 19 July 2021 (EDT)

Here's an odd case: Greg Gifune published a short story collection in 2001, Heretics, from Delirium Books. Their books were usually limited editions and very hard to find, and this one only had 250 copies. The long title story was published as an e-book years later so that's no problem, but the other stories are scattered in ancient websites. I found one on the old Delirium Books website, where they excerpted 1 free story from some of their books, but unlike the other stories, Gifune's "The Uncertainty of Darkness" wasn't coded properly and is a wonderful mess. However, I believe the full story is on the page, https://web.archive.org/web/20020128223130/http://www.deliriumbooks.com:80/stories/uncertainty.htm, but it takes a bit of work to read it. At the bottom of the page is the beginning of the story, from "Dull blue neon..." to "He knew what lay beyond it,". For the rest of the story, you have to go to the top of the page and highlight the text, revealing the rest from "and wondered if the faces there would be the same." to "But deep down, somewhere just beyond the pale of clarity�he could not be certain." No sense adding this broken page to ISFDB, but I thought I'd share it here. Of course, if anyone knows another site with this story, feel free to share. UPDATE: Well what do you know. I remembered reading a discussion on some old site about how Delirium had to move to their own server because their earlier one objected to some of their content. Searched it, found link to Gifune's story, and it appeared in all its properly coded glory here: https://web.archive.org/web/20010510082727/http://members.kconline.com/deliriumbooks/stories/uncertainty.htm. UPDATE: https://web.archive.org/web/20050530232901/http://deliriumbooks.com:80/stories/down_to_sleep.pdf; a story from Gifune's first collection Down to Sleep, "The Raincatchers". The reason why it's on Delirium's website is because they released a very limited edition hardcover in 2004 with 3 extra stories, new intro, and new cover art, but that edition isn't on ISFDB. Also, while doing some edits for Gifune books, I found, on the much-missed DarkFuse site, a PDF (the only 1 on the entire site) for Gifune's "Restoration". There's a story by that name in his collection Heretics, so I assume this is the same; here's a link: https://web.archive.org/web/20121119031515/http://www.darkfuse.com:80/Restoration.pdf. Only the first 44 pages are the story itself, while the rest is mostly a long excerpt from 1 of Gifune's novels, The Bleeding Season. --Username 20:27, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20020212005831/http://www.deliriumbooks.com/stories/dancing.htm; Barbara Malenky wrote a bunch of horror stories in the 1990s and 2000s, but Human Oddities, a chapbook from Delirium, was apparently her only publication. If their hardcovers are rare I can only imagine this is almost impossible to find, so at least now 1 story can be read. The real reason I mentioned her, though, is because I found a cover for her chapbook, the only cover image online as far as I can tell, http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:HMNDDTSXVV2000.jpg. It reminds me of The Manster, a 1959 American/Japanese horror movie where a man grows another head ON HIS SHOULDER; https://monsterreviewsmovie.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/manster.jpg?w=720. --Username 00:07, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20111006191711/http://www.keithminnion.com/storage/its_for_you.pdf; Keith Minnion is an artist who also published some SF and horror stories; his 2011 collection It's For You is still on his archived homepage, which doesn't exist online anymore. It was PV here by "Kminnion", so he added his own book in early 2018, was asked by moderator to provide cover image, and then never responded. I see in Edit History that I added the cover months ago, so now it's complete. Oddly, when I exported contents from the 2019 reprint, 1 story was missing, "Room to Let", even though it's there in Amazon Look Inside, so I added it to both. --Username 15:06, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

Added several links from here, https://web.archive.org/web/20030410191207/http://www.dusksite.ukgo.com:80/fiction.php. Many I didn't add because they're still online or in collections, but many are nowhere to be found. Also, some are original to the site, with a much earlier publication date than their ISFDB records. Site is a mess, however, because there are some stories that have a 2001 archived page when the site first started while others don't, searching the summary on Archive.org reveals a few exist as PDF's, some links lead to Freeola pages (apparently the site's web host), etc. --Username 12:50, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20010725051115/http://blackfuneral.tripod.com:80/issues/apr01/harder_bevvincent.html; Mr. Vincent's website has a full list of his fiction but his early story "Harder" only has an entry for the British mag Peep Show. Remembering that I printed the story off the web a few years ago, I knew something was missing, so I went to the archives, and for some reason his current bibliography dropped the story's original appearance on a very lo-fi website called Dark Funeral. Also, his well-known story "Harming Obsession" has a 2002 date on ISFDB but originally appeared in 2000 in a long-running but now dead online zine, The Harrow; since Google search for theharrow.com includes words like Cialis and Viagra, I instead added a link to its Storytellers Unplugged reprint, https://web.archive.org/web/20071031010423/http://www.storytellersunplugged.com/2007/10/17/harming-obsession/, where he cleaned it up a bit and improved it. UPDATE: I tweeted Mr. Vincent to inform him I added the link for "Harder" to ISFDB and he responded almost immediately to thank me and tell me he added it back to the fiction credits on his website. Cool, although he said it's not one of his favorite stories because it's nasty, which is certainly true. --Username 23:51, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20021006015728/http://www.johndharvey.com:80/frames/main/m_fiction.htm; Mr. Harvey had a novel published by Arkham House in their waning days, but also wrote a few stories. Hornsby is mistitled as Hornby on ISFDB, the Mindmares cover is not found online, and the poem is by John Harvey on ISFDB, a different person entirely. So title fixed, cover added, and name changed. Finding these archived fictions inadvertently helps to fix a lot of other stuff here. There's 3 archived fiction pages, with each one giving a different date for the forthcoming release of his novel, the last being September, and ISFDB says it was published in October. Also, be quick clicking the links, because after a little while the page goes to a 404 page for a "John D. Harvey, Blacksmith". --Username 11:53, 24 July 2021 (EDT)

Not really horror, but the very rare 1920 book by Laurence Housman, Gods and Their Makers and Other Stories, had the title story published earlier as a separate novel, and there's a link to it on archive.org, while "The Blind God" was reprinted in 2 anthologies, 1 of them recent and easy to find. However, the other stories were not found until I discovered that the great blog, A Shiver in the Archives, reprinted "Let Us Make Gods" earlier this year, while "Little Saint Oogh", which had a 1920 date on ISFDB, is actually from 1908, and was hiding on Google Books in an obscure magazine. So the book is now readable with the exception of "The Miracle-Worker", which shows no trace anywhere online (except ISFDB). So if anyone can find any site with that story, the entire book will be completely readable. --Username 19:49, 4 August 2021 (EDT)

https://www.salon.com/2000/10/31/embraces/; added page # to Vermifuge, a 2001 collection by Lorelei Shannon, then went to her archived site. Added "Kingdom Come, Kingdom Go", an ELVIS HORROR STORY, but also saw a mention that another story, "Virgin Spring", ran into trouble for content after it appeared in Salon magazine. The link to Salon's site takes you to 1 of those awful deals you saw a lot of in the old days of the internet, where they'd break a story up into separate pages to increase the traffic. All 3 pages worked, which is a miracle in itself, but the art at the top was broken. Checking the modern web, I was shocked to see that not only is Salon's site still around, but "Virgin Spring" is alive and well, with all of it on 1 page and the art on full display. So read it and find out why it was so controversial. --Username 23:40, 4 August 2021 (EDT)

Redsine Magazine published many print issues but switched for a while in the early 2000's to online issues; their archived site is a huge mess, but I've been adding links on ISFDB to stories I've found. However, there's a Brian Stableford story, "And Justify The Ways Of God To Men", which was never reprinted according to his online bibliography at philsp.com, which is a shock because the dude published a ton of collections. So here's a link since the story's not on ISFDB; https://web.archive.org/web/20010907031430/http://www.redsine.com/archives/four/fa-4.html. --Username 14:06, 6 August 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20130810140849/http://www.swanriverpress.ie/reader/srpr.pdf; Swan River publishes very limited edition books, so this PDF sampler is very welcome. The Parker story was reprinted in Best New Horror, but the other stories are not easy to find, and some of them are on ISFDB in books not published by Swan River, so there seem to be some missing books here from them. --Username 13:43, 7 August 2021 (EDT)

Tim Pratt's Flytrap 'zine published 10 issues through 2008, then Kickstarted a final issue many years later. No link on ISFDB, but I found it, https://web.archive.org/web/20160404111134/http://www.tropismpress.com/?m=201403. All stories are readable. --Username 15:32, 7 August 2021 (EDT)

https://web.archive.org/web/20040627142451/http://www.sjoanpopek.com/freebook/purity.pdf; Douglas Clegg published a short novel, Purity, in 2000 as a Cemetery Dance Novella. He offered it for free later, but modern web only mentions it on scary spyware sites. Only legit site I can find is Issuu.com, but they don't allow you to download it. That linked PDF lets you download it. --Username 10:37, 9 August 2021 (EDT)

Norman Partridge published a chapbook, Red Right Hand, in 1998 from Subterranean and it was quickly reprinted in the anthology Subterranean Gallery, followed a couple of years later by Partridge's collection The Man With the Barbed-Wire Fists. 20 years later, and it doesn't seem to have been reprinted again, but I found it as a free fiction here, https://web.archive.org/web/20100801025842/http://www.normanpartridge.com:80/fiction14.htm. Partridge's intro for the expanded Subterranean edition of his first collection Mr. Fox is also available, https://web.archive.org/web/20111002011035/http://normanpartridge.com/nonfiction2.htm. --Username 11:28, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Ronald Kelly offered lots of free stories on his site ronaldkelly.com which can only be found on the archived version, so I've been adding them to ISFDB. Most are old reprints (some of them quite good-"Consumption" is really gross!), but as time went on he started offering more recent stories and also new ones. One story, "Delayed Reaction", seems not to have been published, being written as 1 of a series of personalized stories Kelly did for customers of Cemetery Dance. There seems to be almost no info online about it except for this, https://forum.cemeterydance.com/forum/authors-sections/ronald-kelly/page5, but it's too good to let go to waste, especially as it concerns the events of 9/11, which in a creepy coincidence happens to be the 20th anniversary of today, so here it is: https://web.archive.org/web/20111001024010/http://www.ronaldkelly.com:80/sample.html. --Username 15:51, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

Another ELVIS HORROR STORY; https://web.archive.org/web/20010423160741/http://www.twilighttales.com:80/King.html. Thank you, thank you very much. --Username 14:07, 24 September 2021 (EDT)

Sébastien Doubinsky Canonical name

The name Seb Doubinsky had been used almost exclusively since 2013 and the numbers had flipped at some point. Unless someone disagrees or we have a good reason to keep the canonical name as is (which I am missing), I will be switching the canonical name this weekend. Annie 20:26, 12 July 2021 (EDT)

New Amazon service - Kindle Vella

As many of you know, the number of Web sites which let authors serialize their works online has been steadily climbing. Certain sites are limited to fan fiction while others host a mix of fan fiction and original content, but they all tend to be heavily SFnal. Some of the more popular English language sites include:

• Fanfiction.net
• Archive of Our Own
• Space Battles
• Sufficient Velocity
• Royal Road
• Webnovel.com
• Lots of sites dedicated to translating East Asian serials

Some are 100% free, some require login, some require payment to access premium content, etc. Authors who post their stories for free often set up Patreon or comparable accounts.

Amazon is the latest entrant into this growing field. Their service is called "Kindle Vella" and you can find the official Help pages here. It's currently limited to US-base customers, but the emphasis appears to be on "currently".

I don't think this needs to have an immediate impact on our Inclusion Policy, but it's something to keep an eye on going forward. Ahasuerus 12:23, 14 July 2021 (EDT)

How should we enter them? They are SERIALs, but without a clear container (like a MAGAZINE or similar). What should we put as the container for them since SERIALs shouldn't be entered separately. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:57, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

Actually - we have a type for it - Chapbooks - that's exactly why we extended the type to allow Serials a few months (years?) ago. Annie 12:22, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

Yup -- "The SERIAL title type is to be used when a work is serialized across multiple chapbooks (2018-11-29). Ahasuerus 13:14, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

I guess that fell out of my brain. Thanks! (^_^) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:30, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

New Web page: Publications for Author X Published by Publisher Y

A new Web page, Publications for Author X Published by Publisher Y, has been added. For example, here is Publications for Author Lilith Saintcrow Published by Orbit (US). The page can be accessed from the recently implemented "Authors for Publisher Y" page, e.g. this one.

Please let me know if the way the stats and the pubs are sorted on the new page makes sense. Ahasuerus 22:35, 14 July 2021 (EDT)

That's kinda cool. :) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:35, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

Hopefully, the new Web pages will help editors and moderators determine what kind of publisher/author they are dealing with -- self-publisher, indie publisher, "group publisher", etc. Ahasuerus 17:23, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

Language addition automated

In the past, adding a new language required developer intervention. We now have a new menu option which lets an ISFDB Bureaucrat create and approve a regular submission to add new language.

To the best of my knowledge, this is the last type of regular database activity that required developer intervention. From now on, even if a developer is not available, ISFDB moderators and bureaucrats should be able to perform needed activities.

I have also created a new Help page, Help:Screen:BureaucratMenu, which lists the menu options currently restricted to ISFDB Bureaucrats. Please let me know if you have any questions. Ahasuerus 17:20, 16 July 2021 (EDT)

Sax Rohmer Mystery

Rohmer's The Dream Detective has a Doubleday edition on ISFDB and Bat Wing has a Doubleday and a McKinlay, Stone & Mackenzie, but archive.org has readable copies of both and they say McKinlay... on title page but are copyrighted to Doubleday. Bat Wing's McKinlay... record on ISFDB says, "Tuck does not note this edition", and that's probably because there is no separate edition, McKinlay being the same as Doubleday. Rohmer's bibliography is almost as complex as Edgar Wallace's, so I don't know if this info is known or not, but I see online that many other Rohmer books have McKinlay as the publisher, but ISFDB only has Bat Wing, so some confusion there is. --Username 10:58, 18 July 2021 (EDT)

Lola

Here's something surprising; http://ashiverinthearchives.blogspot.com/2019/03/early-caitlin-r-kiernan.html. Turns out very well-known horror/fantasy author Caitlin R. Kiernan was born a male. I figured this info would be common knowledge on the web, but searching on Google for Kiernan and "Kenneth Robert Wright" together brought up only that link and https://www.riamco.org/render?eadid=US-RPB-ms.2017.008&view=biography, the latter including a reference to an article, in the Inventory section, titled "Transsexual hopes publicity will win him election". I don't know if this will require any changes to Kiernan's info on ISFDB. --Username 18:09, 18 July 2021 (EDT)

It seems to be reasonably well known; Wikipedia says:

• In their twenties, Kiernan identified as transgender and transitioned to female, further identifying as lesbian. In 2020 Kiernan stated, "I no longer consider myself transgender (or transsexual). I would say that I'm gender fluid, if I had to say anything," explaining that this was not a recognized option in the 1980s.

We don't have any biographical data for this author, so I don't think it affects our records.

At one point we discussed possibly adding a "Sex" or "Gender" field to author records, but we were not able to reach consensus, so nothing ever got implemented. Ahasuerus 16:37, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

Wiki crash - 2021-07-20

The ISFDB Wiki crashed and became inaccessible earlier this afternoon. It should be back to normal now -- please let me know if you come across anything unusual. Ahasuerus 16:31, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

I posted a new Help Desk item titled "Blaze Ward - The Last Ranger" around 12:20 PM EDT that is now missing. Do I need to recreate it? Phil 16:49, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

And my question about the Solaris US publisher is missing as well. --GlennMcG 16:51, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

When the ISFDB Wiki database -- which stores all Wiki pages and is separate from the main ISFDB database -- crashed, it apparently caused database degradation. Some Wiki pages like the Community Portal and the Help Desk got mixed together. I am currently looking into it to see whether the problems can be fixed on the fly or whether we need to restore the backups from 9:30am this morning. Ahasuerus 17:24, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

I will be taking the Wiki and the main database down for maintenance at 5:45pm EDT. Hopefully it will resolve this and related issues caused by the database crash. Ahasuerus 17:37, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

(unindent) I have fixed the immediate database problems caused by the crash and we should be back up. However, it's possible that the crash also caused other, harder to detect, problems, so we are not completely out of the woods yet. Please let me know if you see anything unusual. Ahasuerus 18:27, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

Maybe it's time again to look into updating the wiki. Maybe we can do it on a test server using a recent backup to work out any kinks? I'm happy to help with that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:39, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

I am afraid the whole ISP-owned server crashed, not just the Wiki software, so a Wiki upgrade wouldn't have helped in this case. Ahasuerus 12:04, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

Still, it looks like the upgrade is fairly straightforward given the version we are on. I'd have to look at the directory containing the wiki software to know for sure, but as long as we are above version 1.5 (we are version 1.12rc1), then it's a very simple process. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:08, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

I am certainly all for upgrading the Wiki. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the technologies involved (PHP), so I was happy to leave it to Al when he volunteered to work on it some months ago. The only change since then has been that another developer, Klaus Elsbernd, was able to install and upgrad the Wiki software on another server -- see SR 184 for his account of the changes that he had to make. Ahasuerus 19:21, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

New server crash/reboot - 2021-07-21

It looks like the server crashed or was rebooted around midnight. After that the nightly reports didn't run at 1am and the backups (9:30am) look corrupt. This is not good.

I will be disabling all connectivity to the server and checking for database discrepancies starting at 12:20pm. Ahasuerus 12:10, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

I have checked database integrity, rerun the nightly reports and the backups. So far things look reasonably good; everything should be back up. I will be running the rest of the database checks on the development server.

If you come across any issues, please let me know. Ahasuerus 13:12, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

Hello Ahasuerus. If you didn't already know if you go to a User page and click the Dioscussion tab it takes you to ISFDB Discussion Pages and Noticeboards except it has User talk: "User" as the title. Which means no one can notify PVs of any changes. I did some edits prior to the crash but assume those have now been lost in the void. --Mavmaramis 13:45, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

Could you please specify which User pages have this problem? I have tried User:Mavmaramis and User:Ahasuerus and everything appears to be OK, so the problem is likely limited to a subset of User pages. Ahasuerus 14:06, 21 July 2021 (EDT)

Dirk P Broer gives me the ISFDB Discussion Page and Noticeboards; Wjmvanruth gives me Cover Image Data for the 1987 Oebit edition of Major Operation. I wrote on both their talk pages prior to the crash. Cover art image for Incident on Ath is broken as well. --Mavmaramis 00:47, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Wjmvanruth and Dirk - just adding the links and confirming that they indeed point somewhere where they should not. Ahasuerus is probably off for the night. Annie 01:05, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the update! It looks like the Wiki "cache" table was corrupted during the crash and needs to be rebuilt. Ahasuerus 11:41, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Rebuilding the table which I suspected was responsible for this problem (TRUNCATE mw_objectcache) didn't help. Investigating... Ahasuerus 12:12, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

I had to restore the two affected Wiki pages from their pre-crash versions. Unfortunately, User:Mavmaramis's 2021-07-20 comments about "Incident on Ath" could not be restored. Sorry about that!

I will keep looking for any other issues that may have been introduced during/after the first or second server crash. Ahasuerus 12:25, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

(unindent) I hope I'm not the first to publicly express my thanks to all those poor souls who probably have a lot less hair now as a result of "The Incident" and for their efforts to restore it all to some vague semblance of working order. That still leaves the broken cover art for Incident on Ath it won't let me re-upload it. --Mavmaramis 12:51, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Does the problem occur when you click the "Upload new cover scan" link on that publication's page? Could you please describe the exact sequence of events that happen when you do it? Ahasuerus 13:18, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

No it occurs after that. I click "Upload new cover sscan" it goes to the upload page, I select the file, it uploads then I click "Save file" then it merely gives me a data panel for an image uploaded by User:Dirk P Broer. If I click on either of the links on the page displayed it gives me the following error mesaage "This image http: //www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/9/95/NCDNTNTHVT1981.jpg cannot be displayed, because it contains errors" the other images I've uploaded have all done so without issue. --Mavmaramis 14:11, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the clarification! I am not sure I can fix this issue easily. Let's try the following workaround instead.

When you click "Upload new cover scan", the URL of the "Upload file" page starts with "www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=NCDNTNTHVT1981.jpg&wpUploadDescription=", right? Could you change "wpDestFile=NCDNTNTHVT1981" to "wpDestFile=NCDNTNTHVT2081" [note 20821] manually, hit Enter and see if you can use the resulting Upload page? If it works, then we should be in good shape. If not, well, it shouldn't take more than a minute or two of your time to try. Ahasuerus 14:29, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Right well I did as you suggested. I selected the JPG file and clicked "Upload file" then it simply goes to the Cover Image data page for the one uploaded by Dirk (again !). So no luck doing it that way. --Mavmaramis 15:49, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

When you're on the image wiki page, try clicking on the image to view just the image, then refresh your browser to see if it will load the correct image. If it does, then go back to the image wiki page and refresh there to get the correct image to appear. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:18, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Server Maintenance - 2021-07-22

I will be taking the server down for maintenance at 12 noon. It should only take a few minutes. Ahasuerus 11:41, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

The server is back up, but the problems reported immediately above are still present. Investigating... Ahasuerus 12:10, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

The Collector, by John Fowles

What does "Kept because of touchy PV" mean, for The Collector? I'm just curious. I know that PV stands for primary verifier.--Rosab618 02:46, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

The book is out of scope and should not be in the db but we are keeping the record to keep the peace. Apparently some time after the note was added, we actually deleted the book but no one fixed the note. These two reviews need to be converted to essays and this record deleted. I will do that in the morning - too many operations to do it from the phone now. Thanks for finding it. Annie 03:47, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

I'm sorry I did. I think it should stay.--Rosab618 13:11, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

But it is a non-genre novel from an author who is not above threshold. :( I wish we were adding those as well (it will cut on the confusion with the non-speculative horror) but as the rules stand, it is not eligible. Is there anything speculative at all? If we can reclassify as genre, it stays :) Or is there a case to be made that it must stay because of the author?

And it would have been noticed sooner or later - we have been cleaning these slowly so someone would have seen it sooner or later... Annie 13:54, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

The Collector is a non-speculative thriller, so it doesn't belong in the database as long as the author is below the "threshold". BTW, we are missing Mantissa (1982), a somewhat surrealistic fantasy. I suggest we add it and add a note about its borderline nature. Ahasuerus 14:56, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Play and Coast

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1228376; note about 3 unidentified plays, but someone added (play) to the end of 2 of them. I added (play) to the end of the 3rd one, but was rejected. Either all should say it or none; also, searching Title for (play) here revealed 74 matches, so if it's not necessary then a lot of other records should have it removed, too. Secondly, I discovered 1 of William Hope Hodgson's poems had a slightly incorrect title, Down the Long Coast missing an s at the end, but that was rejected because some other editor left a note saying they got most of the poem's titles from an online checklist. Fantlab has a 1977 Ferret Fantasy book, Poems of the Sea, which reprinted the original book Calling of the Sea, and it says "Coasts". Searching for the plural title online gets a lot more matches than the singular, so the plural is almost certainly correct, but the only way to know for sure is to look at contents page of the 1920 original. Someone here must have a copy, right? --Username 09:38, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Vera Searles

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?43251; A few years ago I read a whole bunch of Searles' stories, which are scattered all over the web, sometimes in very obscure places, some non-genre. Recently I came across a 2002 collection by her, Tales of Dark and Light Fiction with Other Colors, not on ISFDB, nor is the publisher, Lakewood Press. Seems to be very rare, since only pages are 1 on Amazon and an eBay auction, which is where I got contents from and entered them here. However, there are some problems. Amazon gives the publisher as Morris while photo of title page on eBay clearly says Lakewood; also, while many of the stories are on ISFDB and could be imported (although 1 had a 2006 date which needed changing), many are not. That would imply they're new, but I recognize several titles from my reading years ago. Only way to know for sure is finding a copy and seeing if there's any publication history, so does anyone here own a copy? It would also help add a few page numbers since photo of contents page on eBay chopped off some at the bottom of the page; https://www.ebay.com/itm/302908715672. --Username 10:43, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Two "Mark Harrisons"

According to his online autobiography, the artist Mark Harrison "stopped taking on illustration commissions to paint personal work for sale in UK galleries" in 2003. However, we have quite a few post-2003 covers attributed to him. It turns out that the well known comic artist Mark Harrison (1963), who is best known for his Star Wars and 2000AD comics, has been branching out and doing some cover art for related books like the Durham Red series of fiction novels set in the 2000AD universe.

It would appear that all Abaddon Books covers currently attributed to Mark Harrison were actually done by Mark Harrison (1963-) as claimed by the Star Wars Wiki. The fact that both 2000AD and Abaddon Books are owned by the same multimedia company, Rebellion, supports this claim.

Any objections to moving the Abaddon Books to Mark Harrison (1963-)? Ahasuerus 11:56, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Chetwynd-Hayes and Love

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?2628; Amazon has a page with 1990 info, but cover is clearly much older, with a $2.25 price. There's another Amazon page for this book with a 1979 date, otherwise completely empty. So I added 1979 edition and all info possible; does anyone have a copy of any edition to verify 1979 date or provide a cover for 1990 edition? --Username 12:22, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

I have approved the submission and added the page count from OCLC. Their data comes from the Eaton Collection of Science Fiction and Fantasy, which has the same page count. Ahasuerus 12:32, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Mortality

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264234; when adding links to a few of Nicholas Royle's stories from the old Dusk site mentioned above, I realized his first collection has a lot of "original" stories on ISFDB that are actually reprints, some very old. No copies on archive.org and Google Books only has snippets, so if anyone has a copy of Mortality it would help to fix dates for those stories which need fixing. --Username 19:46, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Everyman

I did a lot of editing for Stephanie Dowrick's anthology Great Tales of the Supernatural using info from here, https://richarddalbyslibrary.com/products/stephanie-dowrick-great-tales-of-the-supernatural-dent-1978-paperbacks, but afterwards it had a yellow warning because I added Everyman's Library (UK) as a publisher series. This page, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?129, shows that there's all kinds of variations, with the series I added being listed as publisher for a few, which doesn't seem right to me. Dowrick's book says it's a shorter version of her previous anthology, but has a British price even though it says U.S.A. on the copyright page. Dent, Dent/Dutton, Everyman's Library (sometimes UK, sometimes not), other publishers entirely, etc. So wherever anyone thinks the info I added to pub. series field should be moved is fine, but more importantly, Dent and their imprints are all kinds of tangled and confused, so this might be something that needs a lot of work after someone decides what the standard should be for their books. --Username 21:08, 24 July 2021 (EDT)

Heinlein Mystery

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?55749; there was an odd history for this book, explained in the note for the unpublished record here, and I noticed the published record had no page numbers. Instead of the usual places, Open Library had a rare listing of all contents with page numbers. All out of order and lots of stories, so it took a while. When I finally finished , the co-written Heinlein story had no number. Searching inside Google Books' copy didn't show any evidence of that story, either. Edit History shows no one's touched this record since Jan. 2009, and that editor is no longer active, so I don't know what to say about this, except having 1 story with no # is annoying, so maybe someone has a copy and can verify whether story's in there and add the # or if it's not and should be deleted. --Username 18:12, 26 July 2021 (EDT)

Open Library probably took the page numbers from Bill Contento's index of pre-1984 anthologies (which has apparently changed URLs yet again.) This blog has a capture of Contento's data. It confirms the page numbers and the absence of this version of "Beyond Doubt". I have approved your submission and removed the fluke title. Thanks! Ahasuerus 18:54, 26 July 2021 (EDT)

Ship or Skull?

[1]; [2]; I did a little editing for Death in the Mind, a 1945 mystery/sci-fi novel, and there's only a photo of the actual cover here, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?560562; I was going to upload the jacket, but I don't know which of those 2 covers linked above is the right one. Anyone know? --Username 12:56, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

Bones II

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubs_not_in_series.cgi?47642; had my edit rejected that changed format and cover artist; the price is obviously for an e-book, not a TP, and the "Look Inside" seems to say Mike Jansen did the cover art. Amazon e-book page has same ISBN as Amazon TP page, so someone got confused, and link above shows $2.99 is the price for other e-books by the publisher. If anyone thinks anything needs changing... --Username 14:20, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

Look Inside is a little confusing. It states "Cover art and design by Mike Jansen", but also "Art by Niall Parkinson" on the next line. Also, Amazon lists the price as $9.49 for the TP. Since it looks like the PV for the TP is very inactive (no talk page activity since 2014), and they never responded to the inquiry made back in 2014 about this very issue, I'd lean toward making the corrections. Anyone object? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:30, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

How do we know that the format is the error as opposed to the price? I wouldn't change the format which would effectively delete the paperback edition. Better to clone to create the eBook (which is what I suggested in the rejection message). --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 16:21, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

There's nowhere I can find that has the TP for that price. Ebooks generally don't have page counts, either. Everything that's entered is clearly for the TP. I agree about cloning to create the ebook. Makes things easier, anyway. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:37, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

Signet's Paper Dolls

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?20761; I added edition from copy on archive.org, cover is exactly the same as non-active PV's copy here, except for a "-451" after Signet on their cover. Archive copy is 2nd printing, copy entered on ISFDB is 4th. I don't know if it's important, but I thought I'd mention it. --Username 17:18, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

Shane Leslie (Non)Fiction

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?249379; he wrote "true" ghost collections (and some fiction, too), and Ghost Book is non-fiction on ISFDB, but several pieces were reprinted in fiction anthologies and marked as fiction here. 1 was already in contents, I imported another 1 because it was reprinted in 1961 but had a 1956 date like the collection, but there's another, The Diplomatist's Story, which has a note saying it comes from the original 1955 British edition but a copy of the 1956 American edition on eBay, https://www.ebay.com/itm/SHANE-LESLIES-GHOST-BOOK-1956-Sheed-Ward-NY-First-American-Edition-HC-DJ-/401735829151, shows all contents and that story doesn't appear. So does anyone know if titles were dropped/changed between editions, and should the story in ISFDB's contents and the 1 I imported be changed to non-fiction since that's what the book is? --Username 17:23, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

Chariot

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubs_not_in_series.cgi?3347; I think there are 3 different publishers under this banner here; 1960-1961 books are a cheapo PB house, 1978-1979 books are reprints of George MacDonald works, and 1983-1987 books are by a Christian publisher (Amazon page says Christian Adventure Series for the 1987 book). --Username 18:23, 27 July 2021 (EDT)

Hutchinson's New...

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=new+author&type=Publication+Series; all the same series, I think, but entered differently here. Anyone think they should be changed to the same for all books or not? --Username 17:31, 29 July 2021 (EDT)

Dracula Review

I think this review, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1739936, is for this not-on-ISFDB title, https://richarddalbyslibrary.com/collections/newest-shopify-test/products/christopher-lee-the-illustrated-dracula-manor-books-1975-paperbacks, not the book linked. --Username 22:30, 29 July 2021 (EDT)

Link Review changes

Post-submission/submission review pages for Link Review submissions have been changed. They now display the language of the review as well as the language of the reviewed title. Hopefully, this enhancement will make it easier to identify incorrectly linked reviews of translations. Ahasuerus 11:59, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Nightmare

https://archive.org/details/nightmarenovel00dorn; only the 1988 PB is on ISFDB, with a "possible non-genre" tag. Reading the flaps of the original HC, it seems like a "molester chased down by angry mom" thriller, and probably isn't ISFDB-worthy. --Username 12:13, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Reading the description, I agree. It's also the only thing by Dorner in the db here, so it doesn't qualify that way. It's been removed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:41, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Make Variant changes

The "Make Variant" Web page has been modified. When turning a title into a variant of a new (non-existent) record, you can now create a Title Note. Whatever you enter will appear in the new parent title's Note field. Ahasuerus 15:19, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Awesome! Annie 15:20, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Thank you! -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:43, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Hopefully it will help reduce the need for follow-up submissions :-) Ahasuerus 18:15, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Les Edwards' Bats

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?36812; fixed format and added month from gamebooks.org, and original 1984 edition's cover art predates the variant art from the German book it's linked to on ISFDB. --Username 11:26, 31 July 2021 (EDT)

Added the 1984 edition, and fixed the varianting. MagicUnk 12:18, 3 August 2021 (EDT)

Herzog

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308687; can't find the story "The Last Dinner" in Google Books copy. Anyone own a copy who can check if that story is in the book? Worldcat mentions it, but they're not always reliable. --Username 09:50, 2 August 2021 (EDT)

Spanish Series

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?9773; the Miedaner book's English editions aren't on ISFDB, so I entered the original Coward-Mccann 1977 edition, but there are few photos online besides the cover, and the 1 photo on ebay with a photo of the back flap is blurry; the jacket art is by Vincent T-something. If anyone has a copy, the cover artist's name would be appreciated since it doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere online. Also, the De Felitta book's English editions aren't on ISFDB, either, but from the descriptions online I don't think it's ISFDB-worthy. It's about a Holocaust survivor who escapes from a mental hospital and chops up people with a cleaver. Also, another editor just uploaded 2 cover images to this series for the 2 books I mentioned, so synchronicity. --Username 11:18, 2 August 2021 (EDT)

Ordeal of Barata

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?361; added dozens of covers to Wildside's reprints of Fowler Wright's non-genre novels, and the one above didn't have that edition, just the original 1939 one. I decided to enter it, only to be told that the ISBN is already on file; the novel, both original and Wildside editions, are also in the genre section of his record. So I deleted my unnecessary edit and think that the title's record in the non-genre section should be deleted. However, 1 record has a note the other doesn't (although info it provides isn't really needed) and 1 has a verification the other doesn't, so maybe those should be kept. --Username 17:42, 4 August 2021 (EDT)

Who is Samuel Cross?

https://bryanberg.net/files/portfolio-fiction/magic-realism/the-other-lorenzo/; disagrees with this, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?101041. 2 different people. --Username 23:59, 4 August 2021 (EDT)

Royal

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?838242; http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324104; did some fixing of catalog ID for Royal Books, and 1 was already on file; seems to be the same book, but 1 has the series as the publisher, and there's a different set of editors who worked on each record. So it's possible 1 of these is unnecessary. --Username 10:17, 5 August 2021 (EDT)

Missing Edition of a Christmas Carol

Here's something interesting; https://web.archive.org/web/20040728011137/http://www.stealthpress.com:80/store/pdf/Christmas_Carol.pdf. Stealth published between 2000-2002; their archived site includes a few PDF's, mostly excerpts from their books, but there's a PDF of Dickens' A Christmas Carol, too. Online search revealed the only site it's still on is Scribd, but just a preview, so this PDF seems to be the only full version. It includes the original 1843 illustrations by John Leech with some incidental art from 19th Century Christmas cards, but says the text is taken from the 1897 Gadshill edition by Chapman & Hall. There's no mention of Gadshill on ISFDB, and Chapman & Hall's edition isn't here. So it's hard to believe but there's still missing editions of A Christmas Carol. --Username 11:51, 6 August 2021 (EDT)

More software tweaks -- 2021-08-06

I am about to install a number of software tweaks. They address certain obscure problems and inefficiencies within the core of the ISFDB system, but they should have no impact on what our users/editors see. If you notices anything odd, please let me know. Ahasuerus 20:29, 6 August 2021 (EDT)

Science (Non) Fiction

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?149838; fiction record says Second Edition but First edition is listed as non-fiction, along with a (?) Third edition. --Username 21:06, 6 August 2021 (EDT)

Combined the two Thought Probes. Philosophy Through Science Fiction is a differently work. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:10, 7 August 2021 (EDT)

Hogarth and H.G.

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1474178; there's 2 Schuster eds. with the same 2 ISFDB editors who worked on both; not sure why the 1975 record is there, but there's some info that isn't in the 1973 record. Also, Hogarth published a few H.G. Wells books in the late 80's, 1 of which didn't have a cover here, so I added it. Fantlab only has 1 Hogarth book by Wells, and it seems to be the same biography linked above, only revised, but the title seems to be backwards compared to the original Nicolson ed. --Username 13:33, 8 August 2021 (EDT)

Pedneau's Pseudonyms

Lee Hawks, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5695, and Marc Eliot, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6017, published books that were both by the same guy; I added a cover to Hawks' book (remember it from back in 1990; very creepy). There's differences in info between both records. He also wrote other books under his own name, and I've seen a cover for the Hawks book published as by Pedneau. --Username 19:04, 9 August 2021 (EDT)

Beloved Artist

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?173983; Leisure cover was missing so I added it, but I think the cover art credit is wrong; prior editor seemed to get their info from locusmag.com, which credits Leming, when in fact he did cover for previous edition. Leisure's covers by this time were usually generic stuff, so I doubt he did a whole new cover for them, and it doesn't look like his other covers on ISFDB. There's a copy on eBay which showed both covers and copyright page and he's not credited anywhere. --Username 19:38, 9 August 2021 (EDT)

Straub Stuff

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?37385; I added missing cover to 1992 Grafton PB edition, then found out that cover was actually for an earlier (1991?) Grafton PB. The correct edition was on Open Library so I added cover from there and some missing info. The original Grafton HC has a note on ISFDB saying the editor corrected cover artist, but I sensed something was wrong, and I was right. Whoever entered info used cover from American Dutton edition and credited that edition's cover artist; the real Grafton HC cover doesn't seem to be on any ISFDB-friendly sites so I had to upload it, and changed artist credit, too, back to what it used to (correctly) be. Then I found what I think is the cover for the earlier Grafton PB, [3], with a bloody ghost kid peeping from the side. Maybe someone here knows if it is. --Username 16:30, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Gauntlet

https://web.archive.org/web/20040430191741/http://www.gauntletpress.com:80/MagazinePDF/Issue24.pdf; Gauntlet was an anti-censorship zine that ran for 23 print issues between 1990 and the early 2000's, and they also included some fiction, some of it of high quality by well-known authors. However, apparently their last issue went electronic because of money troubles. It says 2002 on the cover, but April 2003 elsewhere. Very little info on this issue online, with gauntletpress.com having a page for all issues but this issue being the only one without a price. There's 1 archived page with a PDF of the full issue; no fiction, but some of the articles are genre-related. I typed a random article's name on Google, and the only site that had it was moviemags.com, although they seem to think this issue is from 2005. There are a few random issues of Gauntlet on ISFDB, so if anyone thinks this has content that belongs here they can use that PDF to enter it. There's actually 1 other PDF on Gauntlet's archived site from nearly 10 years later, but since the URL contains the phrase viagra-if-you-ejaculate I don't think I'll be clicking that one. --Username 21:37, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Fantasque

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?511007; Volume 2, Number 1 is Spring 2002 according to philsp.com. That issue was completely entered here, while the record in the link has only 1 story entered and little else. Date says 2003 and philsp.com has a Spring 2003 issue, but it has no contents. Where editor got Succubi from is unknown, since there's not a trace of that title by Loren Macleod anywhere I can find, and how they knew what page it was on is also unknown. Editor is no longer active, so I don't know if anyone wants to do anything with this, like change date to 2003, delete story unless proof can be found, etc. --Username 12:24, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Dead on Main Street

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?648175; price is same as TP edition here, which can't be right, and Amazon links are dead. I changed format from TP to EBOOK for another D. Alexander Ward-edited book, so I don't know if same ISFDB editor entered wrong info for several of his books; might need checking out. --Username 12:50, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Manly Wade Wellman Award

This award has been given out since 2013. The full title of the award is "The Manly Wade Wellman Award for Science Fiction and Fantasy". If you add it, I will populate it. You can read more about it here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:11, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Sorry, I missed this post. Apologies! Since there were no objections and the award appears to be perfectly legitimate, I went ahead and added the new award type. Please feel free to tweak the record as needed. Thanks for volunteering to work on it! Ahasuerus 22:06, 19 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:27, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

All entered! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:19, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

Excellent! :) Ahasuerus 19:57, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

Same Title, Different People

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1214952; no cover, but Fantlab had it, so I was going to add it here, then noticed the editors were not the same as entered here. Thought I was going to correct a big mistake, but then found a cover online for ISFDB's edition with correct editors. Why the same book was released with different editors and stories written by different people in each edition but using the same titles is a mystery which someone here might know the answer to, although I notice the Fantlab cover has the subtitle "International Edition", so that might mean something. https://fantlab.ru/edition73864 --Username 13:51, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

Look at the contents - not just at the title of the books. The contents is totally different - this should have told you that you are dealing with two separate books. Add the one from Fantlab if you want to - it is NOT the same book as the one we have and we seem to be missing that one. Amazon has both ebooks: The Fantlab version (note the title : "Scenes from the Second Storey: International" and [ours - note the title page "Scenes from the Second Storey". Now - Amazon being Amazon had put them on the same entry but that does not make them the same book - common issue with similarly named books sometimes. Annie 14:35, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

I'm not sure I understand that reply. There's a book on ISFDB titled Scenes from the Second Storey. The cover on Fantlab's page has the same title but different editors. I found the cover on Amazon with the right editors and added it. It looks totally different to Fantlab's cover. My confusion is why 2 editions of the same book have different covers, editors and authors but the same story titles. I mentioned that Fantlab's copy says International, so I don't know why I'm being told to note the title; I noted it. I don't know if this is a common practice with Morrigan, the publisher, to release different editions overseas, so I thought someone familiar with them might know. I see now that the last time this book was worked on here was nearly 10 years ago, so if no one can reply with a helpful answer, who cares? It'll go unsolved and I'll just move on to a hundred other things, like usual. --Username 16:21, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

Look at author names and not just the titles. The stories are named after songs from an album so they have the same titles but are written by different people. Click on the links I provided - they will get you to the Amazon pages for both books and both have Look Inside. Not sure how to explain it better. Annie 16:59, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

Security patch - 2021-08-13

A new software patch was installed a few minutes ago. It enhanced the security of the system in a way that should be completely transparent to our users. If you notice anything unusual, especially when editing/moderating, please let me know. Ahasuerus 16:07, 13 August 2021 (EDT)

Downward Spiral

While checking the late J. F. Gonzalez' bibliography, I saw that he had a novella in a 2006 anthology, Downward Spiral, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307611. I went to the publisher's archived site and discovered that, contrary to online info, it's not a 4-author collection with a single story by each, but rather 3 of the 4 have multiple stories, with only Gonzalez having a single novella. Seemingly the only place where this is verified is a 2008 customer review on Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/0975514466, which lists all stories, plus the info that 1 of the stories has a different title than what is listed everywhere else, including on the publisher's site. I imported several stories already on ISFDB (including 1 that had a 2019(!) date, and 1 that had a note verifying that it originally came from Downward Spiral), but many are not. Before I enter new titles using the Amazon review, I wonder if anyone might have a print copy of this seemingly rare book to verify those titles? --Username 09:56, 14 August 2021 (EDT)

Revised works

When dealing with collections, I frequently see instances where a given work is a reprint from an earlier work. These are easy to handle via merge or variant as appropriate. I have occasionally come across the following.

Example excerpt from copyright page - "Some of the works in Collection Title have appeared in earlier collections. All have been substantially revised to fit the requirement of this book"

• Is this enough to consider these new works? If not, what would be enough?
• Assuming yes to the previous question, Is there a preferred method of identification? Here are few I can think of using Original Title
  1. Original Title - Unchanged, But include in notes "This work has been substantially revised since it was first published in "insert appropriate" (copyright page "Collection Title")
  2. Original Title (revised) - With or without the note from #1
  3. Original Title, revised - With or without the note from #1
  4. any better choice.
• Asked in the interest of consistency.

John Scifibones 14:55, 14 August 2021 (EDT)

We have two options when handling revisions:

1. Merge (or variant if different title or author credit) and add a title note mentioning the differences.
2. Leave as two separate records and add title notes to both

The first is usually done when the revisions are minor and the second when they are major. However, we don't have a firm rule on that and minor / major are in the eye of the beholder. We also don't have a firm rule on naming if left separate. Your first two [leave unchanged, add (revised)] are both used. I prefer leaving unchanged and just using notes as that is in keeping with record as per the publication. Others see differently. The key is to use title notes. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:06, 14 August 2021 (EDT)

Jim Morrison Lives!

I added photo to Jim Morrison's record months ago, and today I randomly came back across that record, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?19974. While admiring the photo I noticed the story, "For He Has Seen the Lord in All His Metallic Splendor", had a 1993 date. Being more than 20 years after he (supposedly) died, I was suspicious of that. Typing that title on Google brings up philsp.com, locusmag.com, and ISFDB. A short story by Jim Morrison, lead singer of THE DOORS, would certainly be mentioned on more than just a few genre sites, so I suspect the title is by someone who happens to have the same name. The zine it appears in is pretty obscure, but maybe someone here has a copy of that issue and can verify if there's a bio for Morrison which says it's not the same guy? --Username 10:33, 15 August 2021 (EDT)

Missing Dick

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?6082; Deal had unentered Thomas Canty cover credit (another beautiful Canty cover is always welcome) and Dick had unentered Les Katz cover credit (Katz' last credit on ISFDB was 7 years earlier!). I added both from Archive.org copies, then noticed the date on copyright page for Deal's original edition was same as date for Dick on ISFDB. I made Deal a variant of Dick. I suspect they changed original title because dumb people would think it was a porn novel. --Username 11:06, 15 August 2021 (EDT)

The Foreworld Saga series

There is currently one series for The Foreworld Saga titles here. There are actually three series groups related to these titles: the five main 'canon' titles, about 15 Foreworld SideQuest titles, and about 16 Foreworld Fan Fiction titles. Would there be any objection to my creating two new sub-series 'Foreworld SideQuests' and 'Foreworld Fan Fiction' and my moving the four existing titles that are actually Foreworld SideQuests under that new sub-series? I've just submitted four of the fan-fic novellas so all will be populated. Phil 12:12, 15 August 2021 (EDT)

Sinister

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1241273; the original 1919 edition and the Hippocampus edition use same cover. While checking for price of 1919, I found a cover on dustjackets.com, https://www.dustjackets.com/pages/books/30268/leland-hall/sinister-house, which has price but artwork is different. Checking Google Books, the cover on dustjackets.com is used as an interior illustration but Google's cover is same as that on ISFDB. Not sure what to make of this. --Username 01:25, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Mancuso

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?844; I found it strange well-known Canadian actor Nick Mancuso published 1 sci-fi story in 1982, so checked archive.org's copy of that issue and bio didn't mention anything about acting. Then I noticed that story's author was TED Mancuso. Who entered this as Nick and why is a good question, since there's an essay in the same issue with his correct name; I changed author to Ted (the novel mentioned in the bio is on ISFDB so he's already here), so now I think Nick's record should be deleted from ISFDB. --Username 01:50, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Just FYI: When the last title credited to an author is deleted, the author record gets deleted automatically. So Nick is gone now. --MartyD 07:50, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Mistitled C. Beaumont Story

Found rare photos of Shadow Play, British collection of Charles Beaumont's stories, and entered the page numbers. Turns out 1 of the stories was mistitled! "Last Night in the Rain" is actually "Last Night the Rain". Here's the contents page of original 1958 HC of The Hunger where story first appeared, [4], and the copyright page of the Bantam PB, [5], which shows that's really the title. The Valancourt edition (Amazon Look Inside) agrees, so that leaves Mass for Mixed Voices, which is expensive and hard to find photos of like most of Centipede's books, but Worldcat thankfully lists all contents and story title is "Last Night the Rain". So I think it's safe to say the title on ISFDB can be changed. I made an edit, so it just needs approval. --Username 15:39, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Og Artist

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?32171; copy on Archive.org of the 1984 edition is a tie-in to TV version; I added cover, but erased cover art credit because it was a scene from the TV version, not artwork. However, the copyright page says original book is 1961, but illustrations are 1974 by Patsy Berton. 1961 edition on ISFDB has William Winter as artist, so I think the art credit for 1984 is not originally from 1961 but maybe a later 1974 edition. I don't know anything about this book, but maybe someone else does. --Username 16:21, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Dark Voices 2 (II)

"Dark Voices 2 cover art Hello. Concerning the cover art of these pubs, my copy clearly indicates on bc "Cover illustration by Marshall Arisman". Do you confirm the name of Dave Carson (whose style is utterly different) on yours ? In this case, there seems to be a slight problem ! Thanks, Linguist 05:26, 11 August 2017 (EDT).

This is entirely my error - the TITLE PAGE is Carson - the cover is not credited on my copy Prof beard 04:49, 31 August 2017 (EDT)"

The above is copied from Mr. Beard's page; there's a copy of Dark Voices 2, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?35580, on Archive.org, and I was going to check story info to make sure all is correct on ISFDB, but I didn't get further than the cover before finding a mistake. Apparently the guys above forgot to change the reprint's cover credit. --Username 11:51, 17 August 2021 (EDT)

Gethsem?ne

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?83214; Stephen Gallagher offered a free PDF of his novelette "In Gethsemene" several years ago and it's still on the web, so I added it; problem is it's titled "In Gethsemane". I found photos of Heaven Sent (Daw) online and it's spelled Gethsemene on contents page, while a copy of Out of His Mind on Google Books spells it Gethsemane. Gethsemane is a real place where Jesus Christ underwent the agony in the garden the night before his crucifixion, so I suspect Daw's editor didn't know that and just spelled it the way it sounds. Of course, it's also possible it's spelled properly at the head of the story itself, which I believe is what ISFDB goes with. So does anyone have a copy of Heaven Sent, American or British edition, to check how it's spelled and change if needed? --Username 12:55, 17 August 2021 (EDT)

Suggestion: Page field for new Novels

Would it be possible to add the the ability to assign a Page number/sequence for the new Publication on the new Novel entry form? Currently, this can only be done for the Additional Regular Titles. As a result, an additional edit has to be done to get all the titles displayed in the correct sequence. Implementation of this should reduce the number of edits to be approved. It would also reduce the followups an editor needs to track. Phil 08:38, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

That is a common request - novel is this weird case where the reference title is THE title we care about (non-fiction can be the same way; anthologies and collections also but there are usually stories there so we rarely add a page number to the containers). If you are adding scanned covers, it gets combined with this request easily; if you are not, then yeah - it needs an extra one. Annie 11:53, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

I can see how adding a new field for the page number that the NOVEL/NONFICTION title starts on would speed things up. I assume we would want to add it to the "Publication Data" section of the data entry form, probably immediately before the "Pages" field.

If we decide to do it, what should we call the new field? We'll want to make sure that it's not confused with the "Pages" field. Ahasuerus 12:58, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

"Starting page"? "Novel/Non-fiction start page"? Something like that? :) Annie 13:04, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

No need for a new, separate, field. Another approach (which is preferable imo) is to have a section Regular Title on the New Novel (and other) page(s) just above the Additional Regular Titles section, and have exactly the same fields (page, title, date, title type, length (well, length not really needed)), and prepopulate all of them with read-only values fore the novel title, and only allow Page field to be filled in. Alternatively, you could rename the Additional Regular Titles as just Regular Titles, and again prepopulate the novel title as above in the first available slot. Of course, not knowing how the software works, I have no idea how much work that would be... MagicUnk 14:31, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

(owch, forgot one thing and that is that you'd have to have a trigger to populate these read-only fields once the Title: field (and date, ...) have been filled in - is that doable?) MagicUnk 14:33, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

Adding a new field will be easier (development-wise) than reworking the Regular Titles section and pre-populating and making things read-only and so on. Just saying :) Sometimes it is down to what is the quickest way to get what we need. Annie 15:15, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

Also, keep in mind that we would need to keep the two sections -- one editable and the other one read-only -- in sync if and when the editor goes back and changes the editable values. It's all possible, but it would be a pain to implement. Ahasuerus 15:30, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

(unindent) Thinking some more about this issue, calling the new field "Starting page" could confuse the editor if the publication contains a preface or an introduction. Something like "Novel starting page" and "Nonfiction starting page" would be less likely to confused editors.

I suppose another approach that we could conceivably take would be to add a short "Main Title" section between the "Cover Art" section and the "Additional Regular Titles" section. It would include a note stating that the title data for the main NOVEL/NONFICTION title would be copied from the "Title Data" section at the top of the Web page and have a single editable field for the main title's "Page" value. Ahasuerus 15:40, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

I like this last approach since it's in the flow of how things are entered currently. It would be easy to scroll past it if no data needs to entered. It would also be easy to visually check the overall sequence in combination with the ones entered in the "Additional Regular Titles" section since they would all be together. I'm assuming the value entry for this field would be the same as that used for the Page field in the "Additional Regular Titles" section. Phil 16:07, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

Yes, it would be the same type of field as the ones used in the "Additional Regular Titles", "Reviews" and "Interviews" sections. Ahasuerus 16:11, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

Crabbe

After my recent problems with varianting, I think from now on if I come across any I'll just mention it on this board. So today I added cover to Katharyn F. Crabbe's bio, J.R.R. Tolkien, for the 1981 TP edition, and a link to Open Library, where the book can be read on Archive.org. I didn't add a cover for the HC because the 1 photo on Amazon looks like a paper book to me, so it's probably Amazon's usual mixing and matching; if anyone else finds a photo of the real HC edition they can add it. More importantly, I added cover to the revised 1988 edition, and noticed her middle initial was now W! This explains it; http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Katharyn_Crabbe. Also, there's an interview with a Kathy Crabbe, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2352513, so that might be the same person, too. --Username 20:42, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

This one's fairly straightforward, albeit lengthy. I did the following edits:

1) Updated the author of 454649 to katharyn W. Crabbe, AND added a new Contents record with the new author's name (the contents title record is read-only since that is also used in the other pubs, so I'll need to add the new one, and in a second step remove the old one)

2) Removed the title record with the old author's name from the 'Contents' section (see left-hand menu item 'Remove Titles From This Pub')

3) Made Katharyn W. Crabbe an alternate name of Katharyn F. Crabbe (left-hand menu item 'Make/Remove Alternate Name)

4) Varianted the Katharyn W. Crabbe title record to the Katharyn F. Crabbe title record

The first three edits should not interfere with each other, so can be submitted at the same time.

I didn't touch Kathy Crabbe, as I'd like additional evidence before doing the edits. MagicUnk 04:39, 19 August 2021 (EDT)

Missing Picassos

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?214283; I think those 2 entries are by Pablo Picasso but they weren't made a variant of that name here. --Username 08:55, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks! Varianting done. Stonecreek 12:23, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

Hunter and Stone

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?563788; I added cover, saw note about pseudonym, found out it's Rodney Stone, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?137064, and there's a SFE3 link in his record which explains that. --Username 09:23, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for this! I'll do the varianting and pseudonyming, but don't hesitate to to this on your own! In this case it was only necessary to link Hunter to Stone by using the 'Make/Remove Alternate Name' tool and variant Hunter's novel to the canonical name of Stone. Stonecreek 12:22, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

Not Spielberg

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?12164; even though it's tagged as novelization it wasn't actually checked off as such so I did that, then got suspicious that Spielberg wrote it. Turns out he didn't, as it was co-authored by novelization writer extraordinaire Leslie Waller, as mentioned on his Wikipedia and many other sites. Waller has a couple of old books on ISFDB, but none of the novelizations, I suppose because they're not genre, but Close Encounters definitely is. I don't know if that matters here, or if only the name on the book matters. --Username 19:59, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

For a long time it was suspected that Spielberg hasn't been the sole author of this novelization. I didn't know who was responsible for the co-authorship, so thanks for finding him! Do you want to variant the title(s), creating a new parent title? Don't be anxious for a try, this one's quite straightforwars, you just have to keep track of the one English variant and the translations. Stonecreek 12:13, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

I explained above why I'm not doing variants anymore. Honestly, I'm burned out after 8 months and thousands of edits. I get almost no feedback about anything; most of my messages on the boards go unanswered, and often I end up answering my own questions when I stumble across the answer, sometimes months later. I tried offering my help with finding rare info months ago and got a few quick responses, then nothing for months now. I also tried a thread listing hard-to-find horror fiction I discover on Archive.org and have gotten no responses to any of it - no comments, nobody listing their own discoveries, nothing. It's also tough when the site goes down several times a day for several minutes at a time, and the long waits between mods approving my edits have been getting longer, with a gap between edits recently of more than 2 days. Also, the trend these days for editors on ISFDB seems to be on e-books and upcoming books, which don't interest me, since most of my edits are filling in the countless gaps for books that actually exist physically. I've continued to edit because I know how much is missing and/or wrong, and felt I was doing a service to ISFDB users by adding or correcting info, but I'm tired. Obviously if I had a social life I wouldn't be doing so many edits every day, and I've started to become embarrassed at myself for not doing other more healthy things I could be doing. So who knows what the future will hold, but I think my edits here will be much fewer for the foreseeable future. --Username 13:03, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

I perfecttly understand your feelings. I for one appreciate your research and findings: you're right that there is a huge amount of tasks to be done in bettering the quality & connecting author entries, for it's one of the things ISFDB is excellent in enabling it, at least in theory). I'll do the varianting to Waller & Spielberg. Stonecreek 07:24, 22 August 2021 (EDT)

Possible Werewolf Novel

Melisand March wrote a horror novel, The Site, published by St. Martin's in '88 and Leisure in '89. After adding info, I saw online that she wrote another novel, The Mandrake Scream, in 1975, but it's not on ISFDB. The 1977 PB, https://www.amazon.com/Mandrake-Scream-Melisand-March/dp/0380008831, looks like a werewolf novel, but copyright page on eBay says it was first published as a HC by Mason/Charter. They have many books on Archive.org but not this one (they also don't have any books on ISFDB), and I can't find a photo or much info at all about that edition. So if anyone has a copy or can find the cover and/or solid info that can be entered here, that would be great. Amazon says 353 pages, but can't rely on their info, and ISBN they provide only appears on Amazon and Paperbackswap.com. Dondammassa.com mentions "supernatural themes", so I think it belongs here. --Username 13:56, 22 August 2021 (EDT)

Reused Bauman Art

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22105; http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?537601; same art, both 1985, but German book's record has no mention of Bauman cover variant. --Username 16:39, 22 August 2021 (EDT)

Well it's a Dutch book, but I varianted the art anyway :). Thanks for the find! Stonecreek 06:05, 23 August 2021 (EDT)

Yes, Dutch; I should have realized that when it said "Dutch" in the notes (duh). I see the publisher has 4 books on ISFDB; 1 is Omen III, reusing cover from another edition which is just Sam Neill on the movie poster, and 1 reuses art from PB of The Night Church, and is varianted as such; that leaves the Charlotte Paul book, which has cover art that I suspect is from some other book, but searching Google Images found nothing. So 1 more mystery to solve. By the way, there's a hurricane passing through my neck of the woods (Eastern United States), so my planned sabbatical from ISFDB was delayed by a couple of days, which is why I was still making edits. However, after tonight when it blows over I'll be taking my break and trying to limit my edits until Labor Day (Sep. 6). So any comments should be left on my board because I won't be checking elsewhere. --Username 07:50, 23 August 2021 (EDT)

Re: my sabbatical, any plans I had to travel anywhere are now unlikely since the chances of Americans being killed have greatly increased lately. Honestly, I'm ashamed of my whining about how "tough" it is to keep doing these edits every day, when our worthless excuse for a President is stranding countless Americans in a foreign land and allowing terrorists to run things; kind of puts things in perspective. So I've come to appreciate how lucky I am to be doing what I'm doing and how relatively easy I have it, notwithstanding my feelings about the problems I have re: this site. God Bless America, and Impeach Biden. --Username 07:47, 25 August 2021 (EDT)

Trezzo

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=trezzo&type=Name; almost certainly same person, with most credits under the shorter name; Braden credits probably after she married and added husband's last name. --Username 22:51, 22 August 2021 (EDT)

Far Arena

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL14992316M/The_far_arena; I added covers and other info to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?484021, but the Pan edition has a note saying it's 2nd printing. That Pan photo on Open Library is totally different, but has same date and ISBN. Is that the 1st edition or a later one? Maybe someone here has a copy and can add it to ISFDB. --Username 13:11, 23 August 2021 (EDT)

Database tables are now accessible from the "ISFDB Statistics and Top Lists" page

The "ISFDB Statistics and Top Lists" Web page has been updated. It now has a "Database Tables" section, which can take you to the following 2 Web pages:

• ISFDB-Supported Languages
• ISFDB-Supported Secondary Verification Sources

It's the same data that we have always had access to as drop-down lists (for languages) or as verification options, but now it's centralized and available as nice tables. Ahasuerus 17:31, 23 August 2021 (EDT)

Petaja

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?36342; found Fantlab copy of this, added lovely cover, but Petaja's "Sky Hermit" isn't original, being from 1935. Philsp.com has it plus others under Theodore Pine; ISFDB has 2 entries under that name, but also 1 entry for E. T. Pine which is by Petaja but not noted as such. I mention all this in case anyone enters the contents of The Book of Munn so they don't enter Petaja's poem as original, and also for the usual varianting stuff where Petaja and the various Pines have to be linked together. --Username 14:25, 25 August 2021 (EDT)

2 Titles, Same Story

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2904647; I brought this up somewhere here a while ago, but Unsworth's story "Private Ambulance" was reprinted under original name in Best British Horror but as "Night Run" in Best New Horror for some reason. Finally stumbled on copy of the 1st book on Archive.org and entered original name as a variant on ISFDB, it was accepted, and I just imported that title into Noir, edited by Ian Whates, which is where it came from (contents are empty otherwise). But as usual varianting is a problem and both Best... books show Night Run as the title. So whoever wants to can variant or unmerge or whatever. --Username 18:02, 25 August 2021 (EDT)

Moorstones

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5066858; ISBN's already on file; locusmag.com probably where it came from. Real ISBN from American reprint by Salem probably needed. --Username 19:50, 25 August 2021 (EDT)

Currency kroner

In the discussion here currency_symbol it was discovered that in the Template:PublicationFields:Price is no explicit currency abbreviation for the European countries with the currency "kroner". To distinguish "kroner" unambiguously, it is proposed to designate the currencies as follows (Sweden: "skr", Denmark: "dkr" and Norway: "nkr") and to include them in Template:PublicationFields:Price, if there is no objection. Regards Rudolf Rudam 10:50, 26 August 2021 (EDT)

Sounds like a good plan - that is the same situation as with the $ currencies. We probably should also add a few more currencies that come up often to the template... Annie 16:34, 26 August 2021 (EDT)

Yep, good idea! MagicUnk 11:23, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the feedback. I'll include them. Regards Rudolf Rudam 04:41, 29 August 2021 (EDT)

Body Snatchers

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisheryear.cgi?26934+1979; I vaguely remember talking about this here months ago, and just came across it again. I just now made the Rings and Rogers books novelizations since they are specifically for the terrible Bakshi movie and the really terrible TV version of Buck Rogers, but those 2 Body Snatchers books are confusing. The Richter credit is correct since he wrote the script for the 1978 film, but the Finney record has most of the info, including corrected ISBN, while the Richter record uses the bad ISBN and doesn't include a page count. Also, it should be made a novelization, too, after records are fixed. --Username 14:54, 26 August 2021 (EDT)

Ongoing security-related changes

I am in the process of upgrading the ISFDB software to work with the HTTPS protocol. The process should be completely transparent to all users, but it requires changing literally hundreds of small pieces of ISFDB code. Sometimes bugs slip through even after testing. If you come across an ISFDB page which includes one or more broken links, please let me know where you found it, including copies of any broken URL(s). Ahasuerus 15:40, 26 August 2021 (EDT)

Spook

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?14238; I remember that great cover art from back in the day, and was surprised to see that the artist didn't do anything else, but also noticed the PB cover had almost the same name. Turns out it's the same cover, so I figured they misspelled it in the PB, but turns out it was misspelled by some editor here. Book hasn't been worked on since 2014, but 4 different editors worked on it, so it's hard to say who entered it wrong. While fixing it, I added Open Library links to the records since they're both on Archive.org, but noticed the PB says HC was in 1989. Date here says 10/1990; if it was January I could understand, but that's a big gap. I added a note to PB explaining this, but if anyone knows when it was actually published (HC says 1990 on copyright page but says 1989 for cover art on back flap) they can always correct if necessary. --Username 20:09, 27 August 2021 (EDT)

Novel titles

I ran across some (NOVEL) publications with different titles than the contained TITLE. E.g. here and here. They only differ by a comma, so it's hard to notice. Should this be possible? Acceptable? ../Doug H 21:31, 27 August 2021 (EDT)

Possible - sure - someone merged or edited later for the first then the second was created as a clone from it. Should they be like that - not really. :) They should be split out and varianted. Annie 00:09, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

We should check these more closely. For the audiobook, the Gutenberg page has the comma. I don't know what should serve as the title page for an audiobook. How much of a pause in the reading denotes a comma? For the trade paperback, are we certain that the title page doesn't have a comma? The look inside on Amazon shows a separate ebook publication by the same publisher, which also has a cover missing the comma. It reprints the 1920 Grosset & Dunlap title page which does not have a comma, but does print "Thuvia" over "Maid of Mars" in a smaller font. Do we imply a comma there? Zeuschner's Burroughs bibliography does show the G&D printing with a comma. He does note printings without the comma, which are all the editions published by Quiet Vision. He does not list the Kessinger edition. A variant is certainly warranted. I don't know if we should start it with the 1920 G&D, or the 2000 Quiet Vision. If the Kessinger is included in the variant, we should note that we're working from the cover title only. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 08:13, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

There are more than these two I was working through, but this mixed approach stood out. If I understand, the publication title should match a content title. Mayhap there should be a report on violations of this (my SQL is rusty - it seems do-able but tricky). I checked the Kessinger at Amazon again and got the actual edition for look inside. The title page has no comma, but this is from the 1921 McClurg & Grosset & Dunlap edition [Zeus. 804]. According to Zeuschner this was McClurg edition with just the title page replaced. The entries on ISFDB are the Zeus. 802, 803 and 805. Which suggests I should add this edition without the comma and fix the Kessinger content title and if necessary merge them. And on to the others. ../Doug H 11:51, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

Dash

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?95377; been correcting Pan Horror using Luminist PDF's; Trevor's Chicken Switch says here there's a dash in the Canning anthology appearance but it's also there in the Pan book, so needs unmerging or varianting. --Username 11:40, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

White Worm

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5069346; added Fantlab's copy of 1911 Rider edition, illustrator misspelled for some reason on ISFDB, fixed that, needs unvarianting or whatever; Fantlab shows photos of all illustrations in case that helps flesh out this record. --Username 14:09, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

Exchange of Men

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=exchange+of+men&type=All+Titles; same story, but Cross not mentioned as a variant of Nemerov; found this info on Nemerov's Wikipedia. --Username 14:41, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

The source for the note at Wikipedia has broken down, and I think it doesn't seem convincing enough that a poet who 'wrote almost exclusively in fixed forms and meter' should have published a thriller story; also, Wikipedia doesn't mention the co-author at all. Stonecreek 15:12, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

Crucified City

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5070324; according to Worldcat, New Authors Limited was a series from Hutchinson, so I fixed that, but all Worldcat pages give different page counts; prior editor used the 221 count on ISFDB, but another page says 220, while another says it's less than 200; Fantlab says 222. So if anyone has a physical copy and can verify which is correct, respond here. --Username 10:30, 29 August 2021 (EDT)

Missing Poems

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?8409; I've been adding/fixing info for this series and today I did stuff for XVI and XVII; those 2 have Dutch editions, and as I finished I realized there's 1 entry missing from both, "Martyr Without Canon" from XVI and "The Daily Chernobyl" from XVII. Both are poems, so maybe the publisher dropped them because they didn't want any poetry, or it's possible they are there but online sites where contents were taken from didn't bother to mention them. So anyone who has copies might want to check and add those 2 poems if they're in there or add notes explaining they were dropped. --Username 12:51, 29 August 2021 (EDT)

William Marshall(s)

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5281; didn't seem right that the mystery author who has 2 genre novels on ISFDB wrote an intro for a book about Dracula, and turns out it's not that William Marshall but the actor who was BLACULA. Then I thought that Trek interview odd and turns out it's by the actor also, who was on an episode of Trek in the 60's. Someone approve my (actor) addition to those 2 records so I can add info to his record including the best image I can find of him as BLACULA. --Username 14:15, 29 August 2021 (EDT)

Lansdale Book

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?36883; HC has no page numbers on ISFDB for stories, but paper edition has them, and checking photos online shows they're exactly the same for both, yet paper edition is 10 pages less than HC on ISFDB. Paper was PV'd by someone no longer active named TEDDYBEAR, while HC isn't verified but editor is still active. So maybe someone who has a copy of either can check; possible wrong page count somewhere. --Username 15:59, 29 August 2021 (EDT)

Proto Date

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?891884; got price for Coward edition from NY Times review, but it was in April, while ISFDB says August. Note says month was entered arbitrarily to place it after the June UK first edition, but that places it before it. Several other sites online also say April for Coward, so month for UK here is probably wrong, since editor left a note saying they got month from Amazon UK, which is not reliable. --Username 10:42, 30 August 2021 (EDT)

Okay, I adapted the entry and added a note. Thanks, Stonecreek 09:21, 31 August 2021 (EDT)

Yeah, your note was there, but another mod finally got around to approving relevant edits and your note is now gone. That's the problem with the huge backlog of edits and many different mods approving those edits; many of them don't actually look closely at what they're approving and just do it so they can get them off the list; I got a message on my board about an edit I made recently where I added another note to the note in my previous edit, but because the first edit hadn't been approved yet the 2nd note just wiped out the first note, and I had to waste time telling mod to include both notes; now I just noticed another edit I made replacing a cover art credit with the correct name had both the original incorrect name and the correct one in the same record, so I had to waste more time deleting the wrong one and now have to wait for that to be approved. Who knows how many other notes and corrections I've made that have ended up wrong and I didn't catch them. I barely care at this point. If you want to re-enter your note, go ahead. --Username 16:27, 1 September 2021 (EDT)

Multiple Maniacs

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?137888; I added original edition of Maniacs and tried to variant it to French and American reprint editions and make it the parent but it obviously didn't work, so if anyone cares to they can merge them or unmerge or variant or unvariant or whatever. --Username 09:01, 31 August 2021 (EDT)

Well it worked! The only thing left to do for me was the merging of the doubled original title. Thanks for your work, Stonecreek 09:15, 31 August 2021 (EDT)

Small World?

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?850611; cover on Goodreads leads me to believe this is an edition of King's Small World; anyone own a copy? I found 1 site that agrees, https://www.frightlikeagirl.com.br/2019/06/pequenas-realidades-de-tabitha-king.html. --Username 10:02, 31 August 2021 (EDT)