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:: Anytime! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:53, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
 
:: Anytime! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:53, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
  
==  To Whom It May Concern ==
 
  
Hi Bob,
 
  
Are both titles with this name in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289811 SPWAO Showcase #5, 1985] short stories or is one of them interior art? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:30, 17 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:Garrison is an artist, of course.  Thanks, Annie. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:53, 17 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:: Anytime. Oh, and I added the link to your latest archive over on your archive page so it does not get lost :) You missed a / when you created the page. We can move it if you want - let me know. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:09, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:::Annie, once again you save my butt. Given that there are only two slashes, it's incredible that I missed one. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:23, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:::: Do you want me to move it so it looks like the older ones? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:46, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::Oh, sure. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:22, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::: Done. You missed the whole "/Archive/" bit in the middle, not just a / as I thought at a first glance (it was late and I probably needed new glasses or more coffee... or both). :) So it appeared as the Talk page of a guy called BiomassbobAug2020-Apr2021 instead of an archive page nested under your page. :) Page moved. Link in your archive page fixed. The old linkage removed. Or as I said when I added the link the other day [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Biomassbob/Archive&action=history Just your helper elf assisting with the missing link]. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:34, 19 April 2021
 
You know, actually that makes more sense than just missing a punctuation mark.  Thank you again, Annie.  You are indeed a useful little elf. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 20:02, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Rejection ==
 
 
The note I added along with the cover image for Jeremy Leven's Creator isn't "irrelevant"; he wrote the script for the movie version. The many other movie-related notes I've added weren't rejected. --[[User:Username|Username]] 15:48, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:Maybe a different moderator will approve it then.  But this site is about books, not movies so it doesn't matter who wrote a movie. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:21, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
Problem is I don't know who will be the moderator working at the time I add an edit, so in the future if I enter relevant movie-related info and you happen to be the moderator at the time, just leave it for the next moderator to approve instead of rejecting it. I've copy-pasted the cover image URL into another edit without the "irrelevant" note. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:27, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:I suggest you just leave out comments about movies. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 18:58, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
Someone should have said the same to the hundreds of other editors whose names I've come across in the short time I've been editing here who added movie-related notes and links to ISFDB records that were approved by moderators. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:21, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:Yep. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 23:27, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
I mentioned above that if you are moderating my edits and see info you don't think should be there, to just pass on by without rejecting and let other moderators who have no problem with the info approve them as they have so often in the past; I'll probably start adding less of them and only stick to adding info if the original author was involved somehow with the movie. Also, if you look at the date on that Mary Reilly edit it was before we had our little discussion, so I don't know what I'm expected to do about that; if you find any others just ignore them. --[[User:Username|Username]] 15:38, 20 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:My friend, you're an idiot to push any monitor this way.  I'm always going to reject any edits adding anything about movies.  I will not pass.  Nothing you say will change that.  When I first started editing, I would argue at times with the decisions of monitors.  As a result, it was many years before I was invited to become a monitor myself. Just drop it and get on with life.[[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:36, 20 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Robots and Empire ==
 
 
While verifying [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28377| Robots and Empire] I saw this note "Jacket design by Barclay Shaw" on rear flap, the artwork is also 'signed'. If he was just the jacket designer we should remove him from the cover art bucket. However, "signed" would indicate he did the artwork. Question, Is it really signed. On my book, I can see two circles within a circle to the bottom right of the V in Asimov. Is that the signature? I'm holding off verifying or making any changes till I hear from you. John [[User:Scifibones|Scifibones]] 18:00, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:John, I just don't know.  I looked at some of his other cover art (F&SF covers), and didn't find that symbol.  But my guess would be that he was the artist, although maybe of the faces rather than the whole cover which isn't very elaborate art. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:21, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:: I know there is currently an emphasis on this point that was not the case in the past. Do you want to make the call, solicit other opinions? I'll go with whatever you think. Thanks, John [[User:Scifibones|Scifibones]] 20:04, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
::: John, I'd just let what's there stand.  I don't feel strongly about it.  I didn't enter that information myself, just went with it, and would tend to keep going with it. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 20:06, 19 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== To Fear the Light ==
 
 
Bob, just added jacket design to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?51760 To Fear the Light]. Also appreciate the guidance on Amazon cover links. John  [[User:Scifibones|Scifibones]] 19:01, 21 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:Great!  Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:13, 21 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Brightness Reef ==
 
 
Added Jacket design (Spelled slightly different between copyright page and rear flap!) and book design to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5511 Brightness Reef] hope you don't mind, John [[User:Scifibones|Scifibones]] 10:43, 24 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:Not something I'd ever enter myself, but I don't really mind. The more the merrier.  Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:01, 24 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Rejected Edit ==
 
 
As per [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Rejected_Edit this], please undelete the rejection in order not to loose valuable information that took me some time to collect. The next time that you have doubts about one of my submission, it'd be better to put it on hold and to contact me (I'm here every day) than to immediatly reject it. In this case, I confirm that the ISBN on book is as entered (as I wrote in the notes). [[User:AlainLeBris|AlainLeBris]] 04:00, 25 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Elite - series ==
 
 
Hello Bob. I note you approved my edits to place [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514411 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514400 this] into the "Elite (computer games)" series but strangely they don't show up in the list [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?62628 here] Any chance that could happen at some point as they are one and the same series. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:09, 28 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:I see what happened.  You used the series for the individual pub, which was a mistake (mea culpa).  You need to move the series to the Title Record, like the earlier examples.  The individual pub series is used where there are several pubs under the Title Record, but only one (or some) of the pubs are in the series, like a series by a particular publisher that does not apply to other pubs in the Title Record. I fixed it for you; look at the list now, and see where the series appears. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:24, 28 April 2021 (EDT)
 
::Thanks Bob. No clue what that all meant but glad it's fixed now. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:02, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Tales from Plexis ==
 
 
Regarding rejected edit 4973950.  Except for the added numbers inside the parentheses on the interludes that is an exact listing of the TOC in the book.  They DO list every little piece.  If you still don't want it in there let me know on my talk page and I'll re-create it without the interludes.[[User:SFJuggler|Jim]] 15:40, 28 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Hipgnosis ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?835790 this]. I really should have been thinking straight when I entered it and flagged it as "non genre" as per the back cover blurb "A book of designs and photographs for rock 'n' roll bands" so decidedly not speculative. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:07, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:Another concern: why would this item belong to ISFDB? It seems it is not connected to our field of speculative fiction. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 04:36, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
::If so then why are other non genre works included ? The author is obviously above threshold enough to have an entry. However if you feel that strongly and wish to delete it altogether I won't argue the point. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:55, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:::My feeling (without seeing the pub) is that it's likely art that could fit the genre.  Paper Tiger often publishes art that fits, but you have the pub, I'll respect your judgement.  I added the cover scan from Amazon, by the way, just to see what it looked like. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:19, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:::: Sorry, I don't understand why should Storm Thorgerson (who worked in the field of rock & pop album covers amd has only a few entries of his work listed here) be above the threshold as author of speculative fiction? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 23:41, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
::::: As I said, the guy with the pub should make a judgement.  Does the material fit the genre? If it doesn't, delete the pub. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:58, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Title mistake ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1878798; first word should be "Full". --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:36, 29 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:Right you are!  In the future, if you come across one of my stupid typos, feel free to fix it.  I don't need to be notified. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:55, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
::OK. --[[User:Username|Username]] 15:49, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Barrayar ==
 
 
Bob, Quick question re: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?376328 Barrayar] . You show a page count of 373. Do you mind checking your copy? I think it should be 381. Or, if you exclude all the NESFA information, The Editor's Note ends on page 367. Let me know and I will submit an edit. thanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:32, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
P.S. I have been adding jacket desgn credit whenever I verify a pub (suggestion of another moderator). Do you want a notification and link every time?
 
:Looking back, if I were entering this pub today, I would say the page count was 363, and ignore the two later contents items.  The pages after that are real garbage ads and definitely should not be included in the page count.  If you want to delete the two last content items and reduce the page numbers, fine by me, go ahead.  I would never add the jacket design credit, but have no objection to it's addition.  Like I said before, takes all kinds.[[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 18:07, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:: I agree with you, Submission 4975963 and 4975966 take care of it. If you want to okay them, I won't have to explain to another moderator. As far as design credit, I never used to include it. Annie asked me to because it would facilitate updating if we ever add a Cover Design can. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:43, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:::Done! [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 18:46, 30 April 2021 (EDT)
 
:::: Realized I forgot to delete the title records after removing them. Submissions 4976144 and 4976145. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:41, 1 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Mirror Dance ==
 
 
Bob, I imported  the title "Miles Vorkosigan/Naismith: His Universe and Times (Mirror Dance)" into [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22363 Mirror Dance] then made it the parent of  "Miles Vorkosigan/Naismith: His Universe and Times (Cetaganda)". I did this to make it consistent with how you handled the ensuing books.  Let me know is this is a problem and I will cancel it. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]]. 14:30, 1 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:O.K. by me. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 18:03, 1 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== You have confused me ==
 
 
You rejected my change in cover art attribution for several Dan Brown Novels. Let's use [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?296036 The Lost Symbol] for example. My pub note says "Jacket photograph © Murat Taner/Getty Images" (over) "Jacket design Michael J. Windsor". I then submitted an edit to remove the cover art attribution. It was approved. I then submitted the same edit edits for other pubs in the same title that use the same cover. Now you are rejecting those edits. I am following [[User talk:Scifibones #Origin Cover| your instructions]] exactly. I'm confused. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]]
 
[[User:Scifibones|Scifibones]] 06:58, 6 May 2021 (EDT)  P.S. I am trying to follow  [[Rules and standards discussions #When is a cover designer the cover artist ?]]
 
 
:Rejected submission 4977796 states the following reason for rejection "I don't know what the cover looks like, but sometimes attributing the cover to a designer is correct. For example, many of the 1632, Inc. books are made up of photos and art and there is a cover designer, not a cover artist.". I pulled 20 HC first printings and 5 TP first printings from the 163x series you mentioned. Every one of the HC's list an illustration credit and a design credit. The 5 TP (these were not produced in HC) list a cover art credit and no design credit. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:15, 6 May 2021 (EDT).
 
 
::I understand your confusion.  I rejected your removal of Murat Taner as the cover artist and I still think simply removal of credit is not correct.  All of these covers should be credited to the designer, Michael J. Windsor, not left without credit for the cover.  Taner apparently took the photo of the capitol building, and Windsor used that photo in his jacket design.
 
 
::And you looked at the wrong books, I did NOT suggest covers in the 163x series, I referred to books published by 1632, Inc.  Many of the former were published by Baen or Ring of Fire Press.  Laura Givens is credited as the cover art designer for many of the books published by 1632, Inc., no one is credited as the cover artist.  Laura did what Windsor did, took someone else's photo, added some other design elements, and came up with the cover.  I personally never cite the cover designer along with the cover artist.  I don't mind if others do so, but I will either cite the cover artist (if given) or cite the cover designer if the cover is made up of elements rather than a piece of art executed by a single artist.  [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:51, 6 May 2021 (EDT)
 
::: This is beside the point anyway.  Address the points in my first paragraph. the first 2 submissions you rejected were for pubs of the Lost Symbol. The next 2 were for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416133 Inferno]. You can see the pub notes and why the cover art credit was pulled. Do you agree I followed your recommendation ? Does approval or rejection depend on whomever happens to review an edit?  This is not personal. It is however quite frustrating.[[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 13:10, 6 May 2021 (EDT)  I didn't see your first paragraph, only the second. I see you reasoning now. 13:17, 6 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Chanur's Legacy ==
 
 
Adding a couple pub notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6627 Chanur's Legacy] [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:48, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:I saw you had to fix something, Did I mess up? 14:27, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
 
::No, your changes were fine.  I removed the pub series information from the notes, since that information was also under the pub title already.  That note was added in 2011 by Bluesman, two years before I verified the pub.  I have no clue why he thought it was necessary to add duplicate information like that. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:59, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Foreigner ==
 
 
Added design credit & removed pub series info from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14208 Foreigner]. Do you want me to keep informing you of these minor edits? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]]10:13, 13 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:Only inform me of edits to pubs where I'm the only verifier and that involve changes, not just additions.  I like to learn, too. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:55, 13 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Middlemore ==
 
 
You rejected the Middlemore edit; the following edit imported the correct title and name and date already on ISFDB so I was deleting the old entry; the 2 Darkness Rising anthologies I added edits for recently both had confusing entries for an old reprint under wrong titles and names and dates, so maybe this needs others to have a look at it to make sure I did it right. --[[User:Username|Username]] 16:20, 13 May 2021 (EDT)
 
: Soon after I wrote this JLaTondre accepted a whole bunch of my edits including adding the imported Middlemore story, so I wrote him to explain the confusion and I assume he'll be looking at all this and doing whatever needs to be done; only thing is maybe you can unreject the Middlemore edit and accept it so there won't be two Middlemores in the same book. --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:47, 13 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:: I realized the problem when I went to the next submission.  I suppose I could have rescinded the rejection, but I didn't bother.  I suggest that next time, you either explain why you are deleting the story, or import the story first, then delete the old entry.  Just delete the old entry now. I'd do it for you, but you didn't bother to flag the pub for me. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 20:14, 13 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Ready Player Two ==
 
 
Only minor adds, but, I did change the source of pub date to the USA copyright registration. Let me know is this is a problem.[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?800744 Ready Player Two][[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:44, 17 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:No problem. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:17, 17 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Dead Lies Dreaming ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
 
We standardize "Tordotcom" as "Tor.com" as a publisher name. Any reason why you changed it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?794130 here] thus splitting this single book out from all the books from the publisher? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:27, 24 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:Damn, Annie, I had no idea of the standardization.  I just entered the publisher's name from the pub.  Fixed. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 13:39, 24 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:: Yeah, they have it spelled out in the last years. We MAY want to reverse the way we standardize or split it I guess but I am a bit tired of chasing these so I just add books for the moment. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:58, 24 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:::I think I would standardize it at Tor and forget about it.  It's like Del Rey / Ballentine, which should just be Del Rey, or maybe Ballentine, but not both. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:11, 24 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== The R-Master ==
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?255008 The R-Master] has the following publication note. "First Edition" so stated on copyright page. [Currey].  I would like to remove the reference to Currey. I'm verifying the statement is there. I own a first edition copy. Problem or do you suggest something else? Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 10:49, 25 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:I understand your reaction, but I'd leave the Currey reference alone.  It's not a rule, but most users like to know that the pub is in Currey.  If the pub is verified, obviously the verifier knows the statement is there.[[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:35, 25 May 2021 (EDT)
 
::Fair enough. Thanks Bob. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:52, 25 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== ''Eldritch Tales, V2n6, 2019'' ==
 
 
A quick question about your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?833742 ''Eldritch Tales, V2n6, 2019'']. Is the last name of {{A|William C. Rasmusson}} spelled that way or is the "o" a typo? The reason I am asking is that we have a record for {{A|William C. Rasmussen}}, whose stories appear in similar publications. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 11:59, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:Surprisingly, this time it's not a typo.  That's the spelling, both over the story and in the ToC. I wouldn't be surprised if the editor spelled the name wrong. I'll ask him. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:36, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:: Thanks for looking into it! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 20:05, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:::No reply.  But since Rasmussen wrote a number of stories for volume 1 of <i>Eldritch Tales</i>, and since the editorials in volume 2 say that a number of authors from volume 1 contributed to volume 2, I think it's safe to assume that the editor made a mistake in spelling Rasmussen's name, and I will make Rasmusson a variant name. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:21, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:::: Looks good, thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:45, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Lord of the Isles series ==
 
 
Hi Bob, I anticipate making changes to most of the 6 volumes of this series. Thought I would write one note for all.
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?20698 Lord of the Isles] - correct publisher, change page reference to fep from ep, add design credits, and ext ID. switch to HTML. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 15:42, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27108 Queen of Demons] - same as above plus changing cover art credit to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?665061 This variant] [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:04, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29635 Servant of the Dragon] - Correct publisher and import endpaper map title [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:17, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22501 Mistress of the Catacombs] - same as previous title [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:28, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15632 Goddess of the Ice Realm] - mostly same as above. Plan to merge map title used here "Goddess of the Ice Realm (map)" with "Lord of the Isles (map)" used in the other pubs after the inital edits are approved. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:40, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67247 Master of the Cauldron] mostly same as above. Plan to merge map title used here "Master of the Cauldron (map)" with "Lord of the Isles (map)" used in the other pubs. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:52, 29 May 2021 (EDT)
 
 
Let me know if you don't agree with any of this.
 
 
== In the Stormy Red Sky ==
 
 
While verifying [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?268790 In the Stormy Red Sky], I noticed you imputed roman numerals for the unnumbered pages. This is an old submission from 2012. I'm guessing the standards changed since then. I went ahead and submitted an edit to change to arabic numerals. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:43, 2 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48983 The Tyrant] 10:38, 2 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Slight numbering change ==
 
 
In [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?376466 The Road of Danger] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?654175 Though Hell Should Bar the Way] the roman numeral count included the blank pages between the highest roman numeral and the arabic numbered pages. I corrected this. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:25, 2 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== William Scott Home ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?308569; Fantlab's photo of contents page, https://data.fantlab.ru/images/editions/plus/big/156390_1, has no dash between Sea and Snakes in 1st story, and title is "The Silver Judgment Echoing" (no e in Judgment or comma) for the 3rd story. Since you PV'd, can you check story pages and see how those are spelled, and fix if necessary? Online info has various spellings but I can't find any photos with actual story headers. --[[User:Username|Username]] 16:39, 2 June 2021 (EDT)
 
:Correct, both fixed. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:24, 2 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Capable of Honor ==
 
 
Bob, The pub I created [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?839587 Here] is not the first edition. I don't know exactly what printing it is (see pub note), only that the print code makes it one of the early printings. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4997580 This edit] is to add information to the presumed first printing. I don't see the problem.  [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 20:52, 9 June 2021 (EDT)
 
:I didn't see that.  You should add to the notes of your copy "Later printing" or some such.  I'm also bothered by the date on your copy, since with a printing date of November, it likely didn't come out until the following year.  You do as you think best, but I'd put "0000-00-00" as the date. I've unrejected your submission. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:42, 10 June 2021 (EDT)
 
::You're probably correct, changing the date to "0000-00-00" is in line with what we do here. I just really hate it, but I will change it. I do think my present note is pretty clear that this is a later printing. Thanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 10:10, 10 June 2021 (EDT)
 
:::John, if it was clear, I wouldn't have rejected the update of the first printing. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:23, 10 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Conclave of Shadows ==
 
 
I submitted the following changes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34446 Talon of the Silver Hawk]. Corrected content page numbers. added a number of notes. Removed the note --Endpaper map originally in "Magician"--. The map in this edition is by "Ralph M. Askren" the earlier map was drawn by "Claire Naylon Vaccaro". If you want the note back, I can put in something like --Endpaper map originally by "Claire Naylon Vaccaro" in "Magician"--. I didn't do anything with the map titles, I plan on working on them after I finish verifying the individual books. For the two versions of the Midkemia map (one by each artist) there is a huge number of title records. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:32, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19486 King of Foxes] 11:57, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
Same and also correct pages for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68017 Exile's Return] 12:37, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
I submitting some of the same kind of changes to the pubs in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?11722 Darkwar Saga]. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:03, 13 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Don Maitz's Cleric ==
 
 
Bob, is the Maitz illustration on page 108 of {{P|31601|Spectrum III}} the same artwork as {{T|2873323|this cover}}? The title of teh artwork for that cover is given as "Cleric" which is the same as the illustration in your pub. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:14, 20 June 2021 (EDT)
 
:Yes, same work of art. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:25, 3 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Fantastic Worlds: The Art of William Stout ==
 
 
Hello Bob. I splurged and got myself a copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?703466 this] and noticed the dustwrapper states "Introduction by Robert Williams" which made me wonder why it was entered as "uncredited" until I realised that what was printed was not correct. I've added a note. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:27, 22 June 2021 (EDT)
 
:Cool!  Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:25, 3 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Commune 2000 A.D. / Mack Reynolds ==
 
 
Please check conversation at [[http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:GlennMcG#Commune_2000_A.D._.2F_Mack_Reynolds]]. Thanks! --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 02:30, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== ISBN already on file ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
 
You may want to be a bit more careful around that error message when you see it - while it can be a legitimate one (multiple printings and so on), it often is just a real duplicate (as here): you approved [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5025743] on 7/6 after having approved [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5025101 this] on 7/5. :) Even if you decided to approve the later one because of the contents, the contents should have been then moved into the older record and then the new one deleted so we do not have a duplicate. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 10:05, 8 July 2021 (EDT)
 
:I obviously got confused with this pub.  I was in and out on it several times, also looking at Amazon, and probably thought one was an e-book or other form.  Thanks for fixing it. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:45, 8 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Lords of Creation ==
 
 
Hi, could you please check in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?536726 Jeffrey Jones: The Definitive Reference] that the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?213245 this] is indeed Jeff Jones? Thanks! [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:34, 8 July 2021 (EDT)
 
:Indeed it is.  It's one of the 21 covers on p.94. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:13, 8 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Earth Is Heaven ==
 
 
Hi Bob [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11770 this] entry has two identical cover art credits and can't seem to find a way to delete the duplicate. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:16, 17 July 2021 (EDT)
 
:DamnifIknow.  I've passed the question on to [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User:Anniemod Anniemod]. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 21:15, 17 July 2021 (EDT)
 
::Found an easy way. Go to edit pub, then remove titles from pub.  Flag one of the cover art citations, and done. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:40, 18 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Galaxy 1963-10 ==
 
 
Cover art of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?58633 this issue] is credited to Dember, but the same but differently cut cover art of [https://www.flickr.com/photos/161053216@N03/51301915361 Galaxie #1, Mai 1964] is clearly signed R McK, that is, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27543 Richard McKenna] (not the writer). [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 17:56, 19 July 2021 (EDT)
 
:The U.S. version does indeed claim the cover is by Dember.  Go ahead and change it, but add that Dember is credited in the magazine in the notes. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 20:44, 19 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== The Swords of Lankhmar ==
 
 
Hi Bob
 
 
You added notes to my verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?845499 copy] of ''The Swords of Lankhmar''.  Unfortunately, they are inaccurate.  My copy is neither signed nor numbered. I think you probably wanted to clone my record to create the signed edition.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:31, 20 July 2021 (EDT)
 
:Thanks, Ron.  I was fooled because the price was the same, so I thought your copy was like mine. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:04, 20 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Rejected Edits ==
 
 
Just FYI, the reviews are not "attached" to publications but to titles. If you've had taken time to really review my submissions and have a look at my talk page, you'll see that the link that I systematically provide points the the correct "publication" that is realy reviewed. In [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5046145 this submission], the book reviewed is evidently not the english title but is in reality for  [https://www.noosfere.org/livres/niourf.asp?numlivre=-324736 the french translation and specifically this pub]. As I wrote at least three times, I don't have the patience to wait for the approval of the multiple edits involved to straigthen the situation. By rejecting the edits, you've lost the information needed to correct the errors in the db. As I do not like my efforts to be wasted like this without a minimum of reflexion and communication like other moderators do, I will stop correcting these errors. [[User:AlainLeBris|AlainLeBris]] 01:56, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Why would I review your talk page?  If you wanted me to do that, you should have said that.  If you think the pub the review is tied to is incorrect, fix it, don't expect a moderator to do that for you. For all but a couple of the submissions where the review was entered as an essay, multiple edits were not required.  All you had to do was change the reference for the review.  Sorry you have no patience. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 08:27, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Edits can be unrejected, so nothing was lost. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:11, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
::I have no objection if you or another moderator wants to unreject these submissions and do this lazy, arrogant  submitter's work for him, but I won't. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:59, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Dickson's 'Three to Dorsai' 1st printing code ==
 
 
Hi, Bob. I've just acquired a copy of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?51238 sold by a reputable vendor as 1st printing ... but its gutter code is on a different page, and slightly different, than the ISFDB record. Instead of "39R" it's "39 R" (space between number & letter), and instead of page 532 it's on bottom of page 529. I'm checking with the other active verifier, also, to determine whether I should note mine as a variant or correct the current pub record. Please let me know if your copy matches mine or the current record. Thanks. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 11:12, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Sorry, Mark, but I should have gone back and marked this a transient verification.  I usually get rid of SFBC editions when I can replace them with trade editions.  While this pub does not have an identical trade edition, I have the three novels included in it as trade editions. So I can't help. But thanks for flagging it so I can correct verification. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:35, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== New Users ==
 
 
Bob, when writing a message on a new user's page, please consider adding a welcome message by placing:
 
:<code><nowiki>{{subst:welcome}} --~~~~</nowiki></code>
 
at the top of the page. Not only is this more friendly, they do often read the help links which cuts down on future problems. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:10, 14 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Thanks.  After years of never encountering newbies, all of a sudden it seems like a flood. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:12, 14 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Don't reject submissions from newcomers ==
 
 
Hi Bob, just an FYI.  I notice that you rejected http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5057840 and http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5057629. Don't do that. Instead, accept, submit a correction, and educate the new editor. Much more welcoming this way :) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:48, 21 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:I understand the reasoning, and if the submission has a couple of errors that are simple to correct, I do as you suggest.  But when there are many errors and some of them are not easily corrected it seems to me to be a better practice to reject the submission, noting the many errors, especially when the submitter repeatedly submits the same errors repeatedly. When the submitter is also the author of the pub submitted, I tend to think he will resubmit in better form, and I'm less than confident he will become a regular editor. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:11, 22 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Starfarers ==
 
 
Added notes and external IDs to your PVd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?32945 Starfarers].[[User:SFJuggler|Jim]] 23:22, 22 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== The Mystery of the Japanese Clock ==
 
 
Added one line to notes on your PVd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339179 The Mystery of the Japanese Clock].[[User:SFJuggler|Jim]] 22:04, 25 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:12, 3 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Splitting some Burroughs publications you have verified ==
 
 
Some existing Burroughs publications you have PV'd have two variants that need to be split. You have verified
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?26181 Pirates of Venus]
 
 
Please check [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Holmesd#Changing_Burroughs_Books_.28Poll.29 this poll] to help determine which variant is the existing entry, and which is created. Your participation is appreciated. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 23:35, 26 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Sorry, I'm lost.  I don't know how to judge. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:18, 27 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:: No real judgement involved. I found two versions of ''Pirates of Venus'' with different ads. I'm trying to find out who has which version. It comes to checking your copy to see if there are 9 or 22 titles listed in the Burroughs ad at the end of the book and typing a 1 or 2 in the poll next to your name. Beyond that, a moderator wants everyone with a copy to have a say as to which ad goes in the existing copy leaving the other ad to go in the new version. Depending on which ad is in your book, you may need to unverify your copy and verify the new one. Whether you care to voice an opinion or not, which ad is in your version might count as a vote. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 11:39, 27 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:::Done. Much clearer explanation.  Thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 08:37, 28 August 2021 (EDT)
 
::::Punch-drunk from spending what seems like too long trying to get something seemingly trivial done in a group setting. Thanks for your input. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 10:33, 28 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Fantasy Macabre edit ==
 
 
Hi Bob
 
 
The is an [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5065927 edit] to one of your verified publications.  I've put it on hold.  Could you take a look and let me know if it's OK to approve the edit or not.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:42, 27 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:Please go ahead and approve the submission.  Mostly typos. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:21, 27 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== David A. Goodman essay in SFWA Bulletin Summer 1978 ==
 
 
Hi Bob, you have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?834034 this pub verified], and I've come across a bit of a headscratcher with one of the contents.
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?179760 David A. Goodman] has an essay in this pub, but according to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Goodman Wikipedia], he was born in 1962, which would make him an exceptionally precocious contributor to the SFWA Bulletin at age 16?  (I've submitted an edit to add those birth details.)  My vague understanding of how SFWA works - in the present day at least - is that members (and thus presumably contributors to their magazines?) have to be published writers, which makes me even more dubious this is the same person.  (Although by that token, I'd have expected him to have some other earlier entries in the database?)
 
 
His other pubs in the database are all from the past decade - he has another Trek book due this month, which is how I stumbled across this - although Wikipedia indicates he's worked mostly as a TV writer.
 
 
Any ideas? Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 15:33, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:Good catch.  My best guess is that this guy is the father of the young man currently contributing speculative fiction. He appears to be a published psychologist.  The article says "to be continued" at the end, but no continuation appears in the next issue.  My best guess is that the Goodman in the SFWA Bulletin was not a member of SFWA, but is likely the father of the current writer.  The two Goodmans are clearly different men. Call the one in the Bulletin David A. Goodman (I) to differentiate him from the other; whether to speculate on his relationship the the author is up to you. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:47, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:: Thanks.  I've just submitted [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5073986 a barebones edit] to separate the 2 David A. Goodmans. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 08:33, 3 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== More Ghosts & Scholars ==
 
 
Hi Bob -
 
 
You're the only verifier of ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?332642 More Ghosts & Scholars]''.  Reginald3 has this as an anthology.  I think it's fine to leave it as a fanzine (as it is listed in Miller/Contento).  Howeve, while Reginald lists Pardoe as co-publisher with Haunted Library, he specifically notes that she is "as anonymous editor".  Worldcat again lists Pardoe as co-publisher, but lists no editor.  Could you double check if she has an actual editor credit?  If not, we should consider changing the editor credit to "uncredited" and then variant the record to Pardoe.  Could you also check how the publishers are listed?  We have publisher records for both [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?53469 Pardoe] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?26316 Haunted Library], but none with a combined credit.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:00, 6 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
:"MORE GHOSTS AND SCHOLARS is published by Rosemary Pardoe, The Haunted Library, 11B Cote Lea Square...."  This is unquestionably a fanzine, anyone who calls it an anthology is an idiot.  There is no editor credit, but Pardoe is obviously the editor and owns the copyright.  She also reviewed two of the three pubs in the issue.  Go ahead and variant if you wish, but I wouldn't.[[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:50, 7 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Mary Austin ==
 
 
I've got a question about the author Mary Austin, who has a poem in Your pv pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?61421 The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, September 1959]. She is supposed to be the same person as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2209 Jane Rice]. But I guess there is a confusion: Jane Rice, 1913-2003, is different from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?20821 Mary Austin], 1868-1934. maybe she is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?219381 Mary Austin (I)] ? Or is there a second Jane Rice? --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 05:57, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:All I can suggest is that you contact [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User:Mhhutchins Mike Hutchins]. who apparently created the alternate name connection. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:38, 18 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Approving incomplete ==
 
 
Bob,
 
 
If you are going to be approving things like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858764 this], you need to edit it after that to make it at least a partially viable record - which means adding source where you verified that the book indeed exist and at least some ID (ISBN, ASIN, Goodreads ID, BN ID and so on or a link to a site where the book is found). If you do not plan on doing that, either reject the book, put it on hold and wait for the user to come back with an answer (won't happen with this specific editor) or leave it for someone else to approve. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:00, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:Agreed.  Clearly, the source was Amazon, and I did ask the submitter to add that info.  No ISBN given, I added the price and ASIN, which I should have asked the submitter to add. Mea culpa. This editor never learns and is more trouble than he's worth. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:59, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:: But that editor won't come and update the book - they add good books so I am willing to fix them if need be but they won't learn the pb/tp difference or add sources or IDs. We know that. They will come back and add contents often but not the rest. So if you approve their submissions, you need to fix them. Leaving them like that, knowing that they will never be fixed ends up with more issues downstream - duplicate books, ratty records and frustration when people add the book again and again. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:16, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
 
::: PS: Look at its corresponding paperback. It is 86 pages. That is no novel... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:17, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:::: Fixed this one and the other pub this clown submitted and I let through. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 20:06, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
 
::::: ‎ 5 x 0.2 x 8 inches :) That's a "tp", not "pb". I fixed the paperback you added to that one. You may need to fix the other one if your finger slipped there as well. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:57, 23 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::: I debated that one.  Given the price and the 8", I figured pb.  But the 5" is too big for pb, so tp is fine. The other is an e-book only. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:37, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
 
::::::: Ignore the order and look for the largest number - the 5 is irrelevant. 8x5 is a standard tp as much as 9x6 is. You will very rarely see mmpb outside of the big publishers these days. PS: The help page says "...as tall as 7.25" (19 cm) or as wide/deep as 4.5" (11.5 cm) use "tp"." Even the tall mass market paperbacks at 7.5 are recorded as tp in the system. The 8 can never be a "pb". :)[[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 10:14, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Isaac Asimov Magazine, #06 ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
::::
 
See my note [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Paulotecario#Isaac_Asimov_Magazine.2C_.2306 here]. This is most likely not a June issue of the magazine unless you have a source I missed somewhere. Using the English numbering for the Asimov's international editions does not really work - in a lot of cases the international edition is not even an issue of the English one but a selection of it. And when the month/date is unclear, we need to use the issue number instead. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:11, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:The date was a guess based on the number 6 and the 1990 date.  It bothered me that the size was pb for a magazine.  Given that the number of pages was so much greater than the U.S. edition, I'm amazed that the content is only a selection of the U.S. edition.  One problem I had was that I couldn't trace the web sites because they had pop-ups in Portuguese that I couldn't read so didn't know how to respond to.  I changed the pub back to the original submission except citing the source in the notes. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:28, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:: They sometimes do selections from multiple issues into a single one. Think of it as a franchise, not as straight translations of specific issues sometimes. For the pop ups on these pages - click anywhere outside of them and they disappear. :)  [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:19, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
 
::: And then it's possible that these aren't magazines at all but anthologies (that present story selections), just like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?31127 this series], with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?665830 one example] (which would fit to the paperback format). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 11:51, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:::: They are treated as a magazine in any Portuguese media I can see so magazines they are. Just because they are a selection of translations does not necessarily make them anthologies - that’s a common way to assemble magazines outside of the big languages. And the small format is not always a problem. It’s not much of a difference anyway so if a Portuguese speaking editor calls them magazines, so they are. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:58, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
::::: That needn't to have consequences for us: The German publications of the ''Perry Rhodan'' series are referred to as NOVELs in all German sources (including the publisher and Perrypedia), but are magazines for us (which contain only NOVELLAs of around 30,000 words in length). That's because it features also interviews, essays, reviews, illustrations, and a letter column: see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?851723 this latest example].
 
::::: We have to decide which of '''our''' definitions a title fits, and if a series does fit the definition for anthologies, it ''is'' a possibility to handle it as such. I think it's worth a consideration. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:27, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::: There is a difference between defining novellas vs novels and the line between magazines and anthologies. The first is well defined. The second had always been a bit murky. In any way - that’s not a conversation to have in this thread. If you want to recategorize, do some research and post on Community your findings and proposal and we all can discuss. And not all magazines features interviews and so on - different cultures and publishing practices exist around the world. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:39, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
::::::: The difference lays in that if Germany would use our length definitions the publications would still be CHAPBOOKs, not MAGAZINEs (the latter are characterized by the diversity of their contents, just like a physical magazine). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 04:15, 29 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::::: Yep. But again - not sure it is applicable here. Sometimes it is about deciding what fits the best. Things overlap. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:16, 29 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== HPL ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1480999; Found and added link to Fantlab's page for the 2nd printing of HPL (1972); you PV'd the 1st printing, so can you verify whether "Survey of current publications in the field" from contents page photo #21 says Macarbe at head of essay, or was it misspelled when entered here? Contents page seems to be a bit unreliable, since previous essay "Special announcements and miscellaney" includes a misspelled word on contents page but just says "Special announcements" in photo #11. --[[User:Username|Username]] 15:33, 29 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:The heading on p.143 is "Survey of Current Publications in the Field of the Macabre with Special Emphasis on H. P. Lovecraft". The TOC says "Survey of Current Publications in the Field".  My usual type of typo. Miscellany is indeed misspelled in the TOC, but does not appear over the text. I fixed my typo; thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 21:05, 29 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Femmes ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?497563; added page to the record with info and pictures, and noticed publisher is misspelled (Ficition). Photo of copyright page is too blurry, so is it misspelled in the pub. or entered wrong here? --[[User:Username|Username]] 14:44, 30 September 2021 (EDT)
 
:Fixed.  Thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:23, 30 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Oathbringer ==
 
 
Shouldn't the dust jacket inside illustration by Isaac Stewart to be changed as an interiorart [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?634732 here]? --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 12:59, 1 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:DamnifIknow.  I'll let Nihonjoe decide. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:36, 2 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== ISBN13 in 1972 ==
 
 
Bob,
 
 
Regardless of what an external site may be saying, books in 1972 could not have had ISBN13 because noone had invented it yet. That's why we have the nice yellow warning about it. I fixed it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?857217 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?857219 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?857218 here]. So even when the external site uses ISBN13, please convert to ISBN10 and use that if the book is pre-2007 - different sites have different policies on what they are using and ours is to use the ISBN that can be on the book :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:49, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:Yes Mother. Sometimes when I'm entering a hardcopy for some lazy editor who entered only an e-book, I get careless.  Sorry about that. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:15, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:: No worries. I am clearing some of the cleanup reports and sending reminders when I see repetitions :) Technically editors are not required to enter every edition or the first edition of a book. We all wish they did but I will take whatever people want to add... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:20, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Grosset Robert E. Howard Books ==
 
 
Made a couple of edits for your PV'd Devil in Iron and Tower of the Elephant from eBay copies; nothing major, just tweaked publisher and added a price, plus notes (they printed price differently on back covers between the 2 books, which was weird).  --[[User:Username|Username]] 20:45, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Freehold Short Fiction ==
 
 
Bob,
 
 
You had been adding all the serials [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?51410 in this series] (I know it had been awhile back but I am clearing cleanup reports so just found them). That's not how serials work - all of these need to be varianted into a work that contains the full text and then the full text work gets into a series. Can you please fix these? If you are not sure how to fix, let me know and I can assist. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:00, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:I don't know how to do this.  I suppose I could make each story a collection that is part of the series, then each numbered piece shortfiction (short story) in the collection.  It seems to me the order of the pieces in the pub should be maintained.  But I don't see what variants have to do with this. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:31, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:: A SERIAL is part of a story or a novel (or a complete novel inside of a magazine). Which means that a SERIAL is always varianted into a NOVEL or a SHORTFICTION. So if these are SERIALS, they need to be varianted into a title record that contains the full text of the full novel/story (regardless if it was ever published as a single story/novel). Alternatively, they need to be converted to short stories instead (see how Cherryh's split novella was recorded [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?13449 here] for example). And to stay with the examples, you can see how a serial is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1979 here]. But you cannot have a free standing SERIAL entry. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:44, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
::: Just a quick pointer -- [[Help:How to connect serials to titles]] discusses this topic in-depth. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:57, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
::::Ah, thanks, that clears thing up.  Completed.  Please check for me. Do I need to make the serial parts not related to the series individually? [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:58, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
 
::::: When you variant a title, the variant loses its series designation - it flows up. There is only one case where you need to clear it manually - when the two works were in different series. :) So all good. I’d personally make these two poems over there also serials and add a note explaining that they are actually poems (so the thing looks more ordered ) but either way works. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:58, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Feghoot Naming ==
 
 
Hi Bob
 
 
I'm looking at the early Ferdinand Feghoot stories published in F&SF.  We currently have the story in the August 1958 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?60991 issue] with the title "Through Time and Space with Ferdinand Feghoot: VIII".  Despite the note in [https://www.sfsite.com/fsf/bibliography/fsfserieswho03.htm this site] (which I believe is the official home of the magazine), Miller/Contento, and more importantly, my copy has the title as simply "Through Time and Space with Ferdinand Feghoot".  There is no numbering on the title page nor in the table of contents.  I suspect that the earlier F&SF stories don't have a number as well, though they did begin numbering them with the November 1958 issue (if Miller/Contento is correct).  I see you've verified the earlier issues that contain these stories, but it you don't feel like pulling them, I've ordered nearly all the issues with Feghoots that I am missing.  Ordinarily when we have a title repeated across issues, we disambiguate it with the magazine title in parentheses.  Thus, I think we should change the title of this story to "Through Time and Space with Ferdinand Feghoot (F&SF, August 1958)".  As I obtain the additional issues, I would make similar title changes.  I don't know how the numbered titles were introduced in our records.  I'm sure it happened before either of us verified these issues.  Perhaps that's how they are reflected in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?51307 Advent collection].  Please let me know if you have thoughts on this.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:13, 10 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Skull-Face: Omnibus vs and Others ==
 
 
Hi Bob, you verified both editions of Howard's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074185 Skull-Face Omnibus]. I'm going to verify my copy of the 1st printing, but thoug cover and spine state the title as "Skull-Face Omnibus", the title page states "Skull-Face and Others", so according to our rules that should be the title. Can you check the title page of the 2nd impression? If that also states "Skull-Face and Others", I can merge both titles. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:49, 18 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:Willem, It's identical.  I changed a couple of things, but didn't finish.  Thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:26, 18 October 2021 (EDT)
 
::Thanks! I'll do the rest. Good luck! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:02, 18 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== The Gold at Starbows End  ==
 
 
When you are back and you are back on track with things: Can you check again your data about that review [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?857216 here]: is it The Gold at Starbows End  or The Gold at Starbow's End. I connected it to the proper collection but if it is spelled that way in the review, I'd like to add a note and if not, we should fix it. Thanks!
 
 
PS: I hope you are feeling better. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:18, 20 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:Thanks, Annie.  It is "The Gold at the Starbow's End".  Fixed.  [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:11, 31 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Silver Eel ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388551; Fritz's last name is spelled 2 different ways in the interview; is that a mistake? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:42, 21 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:My typo.  Fixed.  Thank you! [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:02, 31 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Sam Araya ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
 
There are quite a few pieces of art from Sam Araya in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?798683 Spectrum 27: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art]. Any chance that it is our well known [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?194182 Samuel Araya]? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:57, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:Doesn't say, but I'm sure it is. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:59, 31 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:: No biography or anything? Any way to trace any of these online (I do not see any obvious matches with covers under his Samuel name but I cannot see the images) so we can make absolutely sure and connect them? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 00:58, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
 
:::Spectrum never has bios.  It gives the addresses.  samarayaart@gmail.com and araya.com, which I suppose is a website. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:17, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
 
:::: Unless someone deviously managed to grab samarayaart from gmail and is also an artist, that's the same guy - Samuel Araya owns the alias pretty much everywhere else. And [https://www.instagram.com/p/B8_-R0SDhxf/ this] clinches it - his nomination and the publication in the book is under Sam Araya but that's Samuel Araya's Instagram. Do you want to connect them or should I? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:14, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::Annie, go ahead.  I'm not fully functional yet and it'll probably take me a couple of weeks to get back to normal.  Sorry. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:56, 2 November 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== The Bells of Shoredan ==
 
 
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1024837 this publication] I think ph (pamphlet) would be bettar as format than pb (paperback). Any objections to me changing this? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:31, 30 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:Fine with me. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:00, 31 October 2021 (EDT)
 
:: Thanks and done! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:24, 2 November 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== The Littlest People (Galaxy March 1954) ==
 
 
The [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?58568 isfdb entry for the March 1954 issue of Galaxy SF] lists 2 interior illustrations for the story "The Littlest People", though the story in fact only contains one. Just leaving this note to let you know that I'll rectify this issue soon. --[[User:Rreett|Rreett]] 17:07, 4 November 2021 (EDT)
 
:Thanks for the notice. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:26, 5 November 2021 (EDT)
 
 
== Bran Mak Morn (synopsis) ==
 
 
You have verified publications with {{T|1480066|Bran Mak Morn (synopsis)}} and {{T|2857381|Bran Mak Morn Synopsis}}. Are these the same or different synopsis? If you can variant or add title notes as appropriate, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:19, 7 November 2021 (EST)
 
:Done.  Same text.  The second is a copy of the original typescript. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:08, 8 November 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Cryoburn notes changes ==
 
 
CD-ROM info added to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330962 Cryoburn] [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 13:18, 14 November 2021 (EST)
 
:Thank you. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:12, 14 November 2021 (EST)
 
 
== The Curse of Chalion  ==
 
 
Added Canadian price to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37742 first edition hc]. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:28, 19 November 2021 (EST)
 
:Cool! [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:33, 19 November 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Finlay ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
 
Can you pull out [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?488767 Virgil Finlay Remembered: The Seventh Book of Virgil Finlay] and/or [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?490612 Virgil Finlay's Phantasms]. I am trying to chase down [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1058825 this illustration]. According to the magazine record and an editor, it does not belong to Finlay but it is connected in these two books so... is there any notes that can talk about misidentifying or anything like this? Any chance that it was actually the one from "Wonder Stories, 1957" and not the one in "Thrilling Wonder Stories, October 1950" first (aka that we misconnected that 1950 images and the Finlay ones are only in 1957 and later (even though it is a reprint so it should not happen but...)? Or something like that? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:55, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
:The illustration has Finlay's signature.  Both books credit Finlay and cite the 1950 publication.  Gerry de la Ree published his seven books of Finlay illustrations using his own collection of Finlay material, and he obviously thought the illustration was from 1950.  That may be related to when he acquired the illustration, but there is no way to really tell.  If that illustration is in the 1950 pulp, it's Finlay.  I can supply a scan of the illustration, but I don't know how to do that except as an attachment to an e-mail. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:52, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
:: How about this: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/0/00/Shadow.GIF Here is the image from 1950]. Is that the same image? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:36, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
::: No. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:37, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
:::: Well - this is the image on page 11 in the 1950 magazine. How about [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/d/d8/P13.GIF this one (p. 13)] or [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/4/48/P16.GIF this one(page 15)] (this last one is a big bigger but this is the main part of it)? These are the three images associated with "Shadow on the Sand" in the 1950 magazine. If none of them matches, then the 1950 publication they are talking about is not "Thrilling Wonder Stories, October 1950". [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:16, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
:::::None of them is the one in the two Finlay books. So de la Ree must have misidentified the source (and was copied by Underwood and Miller). Nice detecting! [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:19, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
:::::: An editor complained that are still claiming it is Finlay and I went chasing it. I will disconnect that 1950 one then, leave the 1957 and later ones connected to the two books and one day we may be able to sort all of them out as well but that solves the 1950 magazine problem so I am done with it. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:25, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
:::::: Bob, see my [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1058825 note]. Feel free to rewrite/complete/add to it if there is something to be added - as you have the books. In the meantime I will delete the three images I uploaded. Thanks for the assistance! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:29, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
 
== 4 "Mark Dunn"s ==
 
 
A quick update re: your verified publications with interior art credited to "Mark Dunn". Based on an e-mail exchange with Dave Langford and a review of what's stated in ''Interzone'', I have split "Mark Dunn" into {{A|Mark Dunn}} (US-based author), [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?336142 Mark Dunn (artist)] (mostly illustrations for UK small presses) and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?336141 Mark Dunn (UK)] (Oxford-based editor with an award-winning story in ''Interzone''). Hopefully it all makes sense :) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:06, 24 November 2021 (EST)
 
:Seems reasonable to me, especially with the date matches. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 21:11, 25 November 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Hangfire price check ==
 
 
Could you check the C$ price of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?32962]? My copy has $9.99, not $8.99. Thanks. --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 15:16, 30 November 2021 (EST)
 
:You are correct.  Make the change. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:40, 1 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Flashpoint excerpt Pointblank ==
 
 
Could you doublecheck your copy of Pointblank [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87037] and confirm the excerpt is titled Flashpoint? It seems unlikely, as my 2nd printing has it titled <i>Flashfire</i>, which matches the copyright note in your PVed record. --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 16:57, 30 November 2021 (EST)
 
:Again, you are correct. Make the change. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:41, 1 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Force Majeure, Part 2 of2  ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
 
Shouldn't [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2658082 this] be called "Force Majeure, Part 2 of 9"? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:48, 2 December 2021 (EST)
 
:Indeed it should.  Brain freeze. Fixed. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 17:23, 2 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Horrorstory, Volume Five ==
 
 
Hi Bob,
 
 
I was looking at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?359286 this one]. Why is the title "Horrorstory, Volume Five" and not "Horrorstory: Volume Five" or "Horrorstory Volume Five". The title page has no punctuation at all so we either consider that a subtitle (so we use ":" or part of the title so no comma at all. Or am I missing something obvious somewhere? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:14, 6 December 2021 (EST)
 
:I agree, and made the changes to both volumes 3 and 5.  I'm kind of surprised I have this book because I'm not big on horror.  But I do like Wagner and bought a lot of books from Chuck Miller early in the 1960s (but not his book).  Anyhow, fixed. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 19:14, 6 December 2021 (EST)
 
:: They breed, Bob. Books breed. That's why you end up having books you have no earthly idea when you bought. Or that is my theory and I am going to stick to it! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:35, 6 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Interstellar Patrol ==
 
 
Added notes and the LCCN to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18353 Interstellar Patrol] prior to doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:30, 7 December 2021 (EST)
 
:Cool! Thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:00, 7 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Some Will Not Die ==
 
 
Added LCCN and note to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31092 Some Will Not Die] and then did a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:42, 8 December 2021 (EST)
 
:Cool! Thanks.[[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 22:23, 8 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== The Chantry Guild ==
 
 
Added notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?36981 The Chantry Guild] before doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:03, 14 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Way of the Pilgrim ==
 
 
Added notes and LCCN to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54009 Way of the Pilgrim] prior to doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:25, 14 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== The Final Encyclopedia ==
 
 
Added notes, fixed page count to include unnumbered pages, added new regular title for the map to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39770 The Final Encyclopedia] based on owned copy. Will PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:38, 14 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== What Distant Deeps ==
 
 
While preparing to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324264 What Distant Deeps], I noticed the page count was missing the unnumbered pages and the "Author's Note" on pg. ix isn't included in the regular titles. Any problem with me adding the regular title and changing the page count to x+370? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:25, 14 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== When the Tide Rises ==
 
 
While preparing to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222661 When the Tide Rises], I noticed the page count was missing the unnumbered pages and the "Author's Note" on pg. [5] isn't included in the regular titles. Any problem with me adding the regular title and changing the page count to [8]+356? Also adding notes and the LCCN. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:49, 14 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== The Way to Glory ==
 
 
While preparing to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?68825 The Way to Glory], I noticed the page count was missing the unnumbered pages and the "Author's Note" on pg. [5] isn't included in the regular titles. Any problem with me adding the regular title and changing the page count to [7]+402? Also adding notes. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:24, 15 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Lt. Leary, Commanding ==
 
 
While preparing to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?20899 Lt. Leary, Commanding], I noticed the page count was missing the unnumbered pages and the "Author's Note" on pg. [5] isn't included in the regular titles. Any problem with me adding the regular title and changing the page count to [7]+432? Also adding notes. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:30, 15 December 2021 (EST)
 
:No objection.  I really don't see any need to include the "Author's Note" or the unnumbered pages ahead of the story. But if they light your fire, go ahead and include them.  And for the most part, the notes you add I would never include because they add nothing of value.  But go ahead. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:47, 15 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Servant of the Empire ==
 
 
Added notes before doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:43, 16 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Silverthorn ==
 
 
I added a note re gutter code P025 on page 308 and then did a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:01, 16 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Rage of a Demon King ==
 
 
Can you please look at your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27267 Rage of a Demon King] and see if there is a map on the endpapers? I have a first edition and there isn't one in mine. If it's not there, can I remove it from the pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 06:30, 17 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Krondor: The Betrayal ==
 
 
While preparing to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19718 Krondor: The Betrayal], I noticed that the "Author's Afterword" on page 374 is missing. Any problem with my adding it? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:00, 17 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== A Kingdom Besieged ==
 
 
Added notes and endpaper map title to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?340570 A Kingdom Besieged] before doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:59, 17 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Scallion Stone ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?942887; The Canon of the Ghostly Tales is what I changed the intro to since that's what it says in a FantLab photo; I assume your PV'd copy says the same, but can you check it's written the same way at the head of the intro? --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:37, 17 December 2021 (EST)
 
:I had a difficult time finding this pub, until I realized I had acquired it because of Farian's art.  You are correct about the the title. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:05, 17 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== 1634: The Baltic War ==
 
 
When preparing to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?97031 1634: The Baltic War] and add a link to the CD-ROM pub, I noticed that the "Descendants of Henry Short" interiorart title on page xiii is missing. Any objection to me adding it? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:19, 18 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Belisarius I: Thunder at Dawn ==
 
 
Added notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?259348 Belisarius I: Thunder at Dawn] prior to doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:54, 22 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== 1636: The Saxon Uprising ==
 
 
Added notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?342847 1636: The Saxon Uprising] prior to doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:16, 22 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== The Howling Stones ==
 
 
Added notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?130961 The Howling Stones] prior to doing a PV. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:33, 23 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Flinx's Folly (A Pip & Flinx Novel) ==
 
 
Would you object to my removing the '(A Pip & Flinx Novel)' portion of the title from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119691 Flinx's Folly (A Pip & Flinx Novel)]? It is a series name and according to ISFDB standards doesn't belong in the title of this pub. The Title record [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?152859 here] is already correct. I'd also be adding notes and doing a PV. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:55, 23 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Running from the Deity: A Pip & Flinx Adventure ==
 
 
Would you object to my removing the '(A Pip & Flinx Novel)' portion of the title from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?72695 Running from the Deity: A Pip & Flinx Adventure]? It is a series name and according to current ISFDB standards doesn't belong in the title of this pub. The Title record [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?171569 here] is already correct. I'd also be adding notes and doing a PV. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:39, 24 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Reunion - add missing title ==
 
 
Would you please look at your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28042 Reunion] and see if there is an in-universe essay titled "A Note on the History of Interstellar Travel" on page 327? I'd like to add it plus some notes. Would that be OK? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 09:07, 24 December 2021 (EST)
 
:Yep, sure is. Go ahead and add it if you wish. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:36, 24 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Under the Yoke / Stirling ==
 
 
My copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?52751 Under the Yoke] (which I'm attempting to PV) doesn't have a number line. Can you confirm? --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 20:45, 28 December 2021 (EST)
 
:Confirm. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 11:18, 29 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== The Rose Sea / Stirling/Lisle ==
 
 
When PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46357 The Rose Sea] is see the notes indicate a full number line. My copy doesn't have one. Yours? --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 17:51, 29 December 2021 (EST)
 
:Nope. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 21:07, 29 December 2021 (EST)
 
 
== Pilots Choice ==
 
 
Would you mind checking your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309675 Pilots Choice] and looking at page 299 to see if the actual title of the essay is "How to Find a Lifemate in Several Hundred Not-So-Easy-Steps Or How to Find Authors You Really, Really Love on the Very First Try"? That's the title in my first edition copy. If it matches my copy, I think the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1390600 existing title] needs to be removed and replaced with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?853250 this title]. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:18, 12 January 2022 (EST)
 
:Fixed.  Thanks. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 09:55, 12 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
== Liaden Universe Companion Volume 2 ==
 
 
Would you mind checking your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?378008 Liaden Universe Companion Volume 2] and see if the last printed page number is 303? That would match my first edition copy and the data in WorldCat. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:41, 13 January 2022 (EST)
 
:It is.  If you want to add the garbage at the end of the pub, go ahead and change the page number and add the "content". [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 13:15, 13 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
== Kings of the North and Echoes of Betrayal ==
 
 
Would you please check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?340011 Kings of the North] and see if the last printed page number is 478 like it is on my copy? If so, I think the pages value should be [14]+478. I'll be adding the WorldCat ID and doing a PV.
 
 
Would you also please check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?370119 Echoes of Betrayal] and see if the last printed page number is 451 like it is on my copy? If so, I think the pages value should be [10]+451. I'll be adding the WorldCat ID and doing a PV. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:31, 17 January 2022 (EST)
 
:Go ahead and do both.  I'm not sure what I was thinking when I entered those pubs.[[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:12, 17 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
== The Witches of Karres SFBC edition ==
 
 
I was getting ready to PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50208 The Witches of Karres] but the page count in my copy is 235 not 253. Can you check yours and see if it matches? It looks like a finger-check happened. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 11:22, 20 January 2022 (EST)
 
:I no longer have this pub.  When the Baen edition came out in 2004, I guess I discarded the SFBC edition.  I've changed my verification to transient.  Please correct the page count I transposed. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 13:19, 20 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
== Meats ==
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=meats+m&type=Name; Is it Meir or Meier? You PV books with his art. --[[User:Username|Username]] 17:48, 21 January 2022 (EST)
 
:Good catch!  Meier is correct (fixed). [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 20:07, 21 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
== In Fire Forged ==
 
 
Before doing a PV on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?338344 In Fire Forged], do you mind if I change the page count to 317 to account for the unnumbered pages with content at the end of the book and remove the series name "Worlds of Honor #5" from the title to meet current standards? Thanks. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:53, 24 January 2022 (EST)
 
:Feel free.  The title thing really embarrasses me. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 14:30, 24 January 2022 (EST)
 
::Don't be. I'm not sure when the standards changed but your PV was in 2012. I also submitted fixes for the SFBC pub that has no PV and the associated cover image title. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 17:39, 24 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
== The Gold at Starbows End pending edit ==
 
 
Please check the top of the moderator's queue. You have a submission from 2021-10-31 still waiting your processing. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:40, 4 February 2022 (EST)
 
: And one from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5192411 Early January] (while you are checking anyway) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:54, 4 February 2022 (EST)
 
:How embarrassing! Done. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 10:32, 5 February 2022 (EST)
 
 
==Earth==
 
 
Minor edit to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11743 Earth] to tidy up Notes and add Canadian price. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:11, 5 February 2022 (EST)
 
  
 
==David Brin / The River of Time==
 
==David Brin / The River of Time==

Revision as of 13:59, 13 February 2022

Archive of older messages


Amazon Image Links

Please remember when using Amazon images, the link needs to be edited to remove the underscores and everything between. The moderator screen will give a warning when these are present and they get added to a clean-up report that others than need to handle. A one-off I would just fix without notice, but you had quite a few in the last week. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:02, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Thank you for this information. I truly did not know how to edit the links. I've seen the warning, of course, but didn't know how to handle it. I really appreciate you letting me know. Bob 14:57, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
One thing to keep in mind is that yellow warnings generally mean "This is not an expected value. The submission should not be approved until the issue is resolved to the reviewing moderator's satisfaction." Sometimes it means putting the submission on hold and asking the submitting editor to clarify the intent of the submission. Other times it means asking the developer (me at the moment) to see if the ISFDB software needs to be changed in order to accommodate the submitted value, e.g. if Amazon's URLs have changed or if we have been given permission to link to a new Web site. Ahasuerus 18:00, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Bob, if you see a warning (or anything else) that makes no sense to you, just reach out and ask - I, for one, will be more than happy to help - and I am pretty sure most of the moderators will as well. And if you rather not do it on the site, my mail is set for receiving via the email link on the profile. :) Annie 15:04, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Annie, thank you for the offer, and I'll take you up on it. Right now I need help (again) archiving my user talk. Somehow, despite the instructions, I manage to mess this up when I try. Bob 16:36, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Do you want me to do it and the step by step or just the step by step? Annie 16:39, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Let's try the second. Bob 16:46, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

(unindent)

  • Go to your archives page: here and click edit.
  • Copy the last line to the bottom and edit the dates range - by adding for example "User_talk:Biomassbob/Archive/Sep2019-July2020". No spaces, dots and so on and make sure the format looks like the previous lines and save the page.
  • Open a new tab in your browser and go to the archive page. Go to the address bar (it should read http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Biomassbob/Archive
  • Add at the end of the address bar the date expression you added in a previous step (/Sep2019-July2020) in my example and press enter or load. It should open a page that has the following text on it: "There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.". Click on edit - the standard one on top or the one in the message.
  • Open your Talk page for editing in a new tab and start moving messages (cut from the Talk page, paste in the new page).
  • When done, save both your Talk page and this new page.
  • If you reload the Archive page now, the link we left there in the second page is active and should lead to this new page.

If you mess up somewhere, do not worry, everything is fixable. Annie 17:09, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Wow, it actually worked! Thanks a bunch, Annie. Bob 17:36, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Anytime! Annie 17:53, 30 July 2020 (EDT)



David Brin / The River of Time

I have compared my copy of The River of Time against the ISFDb pub record and would like to make some changes. You are the only active PV for this pub so I am running them past you first. Please advise whether you are happy for me to proceed with these changes.
1) Delete the statement "Signed by Brin on the title page". My copy is not signed so it seems that whichever editor wrote this statement has a copy that was signed post publication.
2) Add Locus1 as the source of the publication month.
3) There are two stories whose titles in the book (both on contents page and first page of story) differ from the pub record. "The Fourth Vocation of George Gustaf" should be "The 4th Vocation of George Gustaf". Also, "Toujours Voir" should be "Toujour Voir".
I am a new editor and am not sure how to go about changing these story titles. I presume variants need to be created but these stories also appear in other publications and I do not know how to determine which title should be the canonical one and which the variant. "Toujour" is a misspelling, so maybe the title should be left as "Toujours Voir" with a note added regarding the misspelling. I see that you are a moderator, so can you please advise me what to do? If you would prefer me to raise the question on the Help Desk, no problem, just let me know. Thanks. Teallach 16:34, 12 February 2022 (EST)

I didn't enter the original data, and when I PV someone else's entry, I sometimes don't check the data very carefully. Mea culpa. Delete the signature line, tell the moderator that neither your copy nor mine is signed. Add the source of the date. No explanation needed. Correct the spelling of "Toujour Voir", tell the monitor you corrected the spelling. Change the title of "The 4th Vocation of George Gustaf", explain to the moderator you corrected the title that is in the pub, and that you will variant the title to "The Fourth..." once the changes you have submitted are approved. Once the first set of changes have been approved, go to "The Fourth...", copy the number at the end of the source (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?40427) "40427" in this case, go to "The River of Time", then to "Make this title a variant" and enter the number in the first line. I don't know why the editor changed the title in the pub, but that sometimes happens.
Also note that the same mistakes in the spelling occur in the 400 copy fancy version of this pub. I suspect this is the version that was signed, which is suggested, but not clearly stated. You should also correct the spelling errors on that copy the same way you do the trade edition.
Good catches, by the way. Glad to have an editor like you join us. Bob 20:23, 12 February 2022 (EST)
I'll make all the changes to the trade ed. Think it will take 3 submissions. Will let you know when all done. I will then inform the PV of the limited ed and between us we will arrange for corresponding changes to be made to that pub record. Thank you for your kind final paragraph. Teallach 12:19, 13 February 2022 (EST)

Fane

For Fane, would you object if I added the following before I PV?
Change page count to [8]+311
Add "First Timescape Books printing August, 1981" and the printer's key
Add essay title "Racial/Political Groupings on the Planet Fane" for page [7]
Thanks! Phil 10:04, 13 February 2022 (EST)

Phil, I have no big objection to changing the page numbers, but think it's silly. You could add the title and put it on 'bp', before pagination. Adding the Timescape statement isn't really needed; the date of publication is already given. More information isn't necessarily helpful. Bob 10:50, 13 February 2022 (EST)