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VERIFIED PUBS:

You do not need to notify me if you add missing content (departments, covers, interior illustrations), correct typos, or link entries (series, reviews). I would be interested in knowing about major changes to entered data (credits, titles). I have created a separate archive to the right of the contents listing for changes to verified pubs to lower the clutter. Please log change notifications there.-- Rkihara (Ron Kihara)


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Blind Paw/Pew

Hi, could you double-check the spelling of "Blind Paw" in your copy of "Dreamtigers"? In most editions it is "Pew". Also, "Martin Fiero" (usually "Fierro"), "To Leopoldo Legones" (usually "Lugones"), and "Androgué" (might be "Adrogué"). Thanks! --Vasha77 12:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! You are right on all counts. Corrected.--Rkihara 15:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, May 1998

Hello, I've changed the authorship of The Questing Mind from Michael Swanwick to Kristine Kathryn Rusch in this issue. Hauck 15:29, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

A. McWilliams / Alden McWilliams

Hi Ron. Alden McWiliams (Al McWilliams) is the same person as A. McWiliams, as seen here and other websites. I've pseudonymed A. McWilliams to Alden but that leaves a string of titles that normally would need to be varianted. So my question is: You have verified titles attributed to A. McWilliams on this list. If that was by actual credit, they should be varianted to Alden but if it was by a signature only, the name should be changed to Alden McWilliams, as I see it by our rules. Here are the ones you've verified, could you check them and make any changes? Sorry to burden you with this but I thought it was the right thing to do to. I'm sending this out to RTrace, Krang and MLB, who have different issues with the same situation.
Black Priestess of Varda (2) in Planet Stories, Winter 1947

I've checked the reprint of these in Pulp Vault and they are credited by signature alone. Feel free to change the title if MLB agrees. I'll leave this same note on his page. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:01, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Me, Myself and I in Planet Stories, Winter 1947
In His Image in Planet Stories, Winter 1948
The Little Monsters Come (2) in ditto.
SOS Aphrodite in Planet Stories, Summer 1949
Stalemate in Space (3) in ditto.
Let the Ants Try (UNCREDITED NOW BUT REPRINT SHOWS A. MCWILLIAMS ART) in Planet Stories, Winter 1949
The Dead-Star Rover in ditto.
The Night Has a Thousand Eyes in ditto.
The Enormous Word in Planet Stories, Summer 1950
Patch in Planet Stories, Fall 1950
Strange Exodus in ditto.
The Last Two Alive in Planet Stories, November 1950
Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Larry Sternig and William Campbell Gault

I'm looking into a new editor's revelation that Larry Sternig was a real person and collaborated with Gault on some things. In your verified Planet Stories, Winter 1945 is a short story Venusian Invader, credited to Sternig, and we have that as a variant of that same title but credited solely to Gault. Is there any other information in the magazine that might indicate whether Gault had any hand in it? I am pursuing the other pubs/verifiers. Thanks. --MartyD 11:07, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Another one is Breath of Beelzebub in Planet Stories, Winter 1946. --MartyD 11:16, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

And one more: Total Recall in Planet Stories, Fall 1946. --MartyD 11:27, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

No info in Planet Stories, but a lot of stuff on the web. Find a Grave: Born Aug 12, 1908 died Aug. 30, 1999, Waukesha, Wisconsin. Writer turned literary agent, Sternig & Byrne Literary agency. The ISFDB lists an obit in Locus, July 99. Gault is listed as co-author for several detective stories.--Rkihara 16:18, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I am going to break the pseudonym relationship. It seems to be an outright mistake. --MartyD 01:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Dreamtigers again

I have gotten hold of a copy of the 1964 U. Texas edition, and found that some of the titles are different from what you put when you entered your edition. Would you be kind enough to check the following and see if they're really what the Dutton ed. has (if so, I'll create separate variants).
  • Martin Fierro, or Martín Fierro?
  • On the Beginning of the Study of Anglo-Saxon Grammar, or On Beginning the Study of Anglo-Saxon Grammar?
  • Appendix: Some Facts About the Life of Jorge Luís Borges, or Appendix: Some Facts in the Life of Jorge Luís Borges?
Thanks... --Vasha77 04:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Corrected all. In the Case of Martín Fierro, the diacritic was difficult to see on my computer. It would help to point out its suspected lack or presence in these cases.--Rkihara 16:27, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I certainly agree that those accented i's are a pain in the neck. Some books use a typeface where they are easy to see, others less so; they are nearly invisible in the font that my computer uses to display the ISFDB. I wonder if it would be doable for the DB to use a non-default font that's more readable.
By the way, you could have just edited the title records for those stories instead of creating new records, then both publications would have been automatically updated. --Vasha77 17:34, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I only corrected the one I verified, though it probably would have been okay. Changing all versions could cause more problems.--Rkihara 18:43, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
The other pub was the one I verified, which I.'ve updated now. Thanks again for looking into this. --Vasha77 19:40, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Oct

Here are possible typos in your verified pubs:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Corrected all.--Rkihara 23:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

[A]The Graveyard Heart

Hi. Sorry for the form letter. I'm doing a shotgun to several moderators/primary verifiers. See this submission. I believe the edit is correct and the existing title is a typo, but with so many verifiers and publications, I'm looking for a few primary confirmations. Thanks. --MartyD 02:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

The entry for Fantastic, March 1964, is a typo. The edit appears to correct. I have the transient verification, which I used in lieu of Primary 2 before it existed.--Rkihara 04:14, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, cover artists

I expanded the name of the cover artist from "Paul" to "Frank R. Paul", based on the citations in Miller & Contento (etc.) to your pv'd issues of Nov. 1926, Dec. 1926, and April 1966. Chavey 03:17, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I see now that "Paul" had already been aliased to "Frank R. Paul", so I changed those credits back. Chavey 06:01, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I expanded the name of the cover artist from "Barber" to "Tom Barber", based on Miller & Contento (etc.) for Amazing Stories for March, 1976, Nov. 1978, and Feb. 1979 Chavey
In keeping with the approach for "Paul", I reverted these changes and created a pseudonym from "Barber" to "Tom Barber". Chavey 06:01, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
Could you re-check the cover artist for March 1977? It's currently listed as "Bierley", but Miller & Contento claim that it's Steve Hickman. Thanks, Chavey 04:26, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
It's credited to Bierley in the TOC, but there is what may be a stylized signature in the lower left corner that may read "S(?)". It's clearly visible in the scanned images for both links that you provided.--Rkihara 16:48, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
Those two images are both the same, so the "S" has the same visibility. Here's a brightness/contrast enhanced version of that "S":
S.Hickman_Stylized_S.jpg
Comparing this to the "S" rune we have on file seems fairly conclusive. I've set "Bierley" up as a pseudonym to Hickman, and added a publication note about this. Chavey 22:04, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories issue links

Many years ago, you verified a whole bunch of issues of "Amazing Stories" that included the old fashioned linking note of the form:
<a href="http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?56370">Jan. 1950</a>←Feb. 1950→<a href="http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?56502">Mar. 1950</a>

(From the Feb. 1950 issue.) As discussed elsewhere, those links aren't really necessary anymore, because of the extensive use of the magazine grids to look at sequences of issue numbers. And, IMHO, they clutter up the publication notes. Would you mind if I removed those links from this magazine? Chavey 05:23, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

There were three or four of us doing this, though I put in the majority. We stopped entering the "Navbars" after a year or so. Why don't you repost this on the community portal, I won't oppose it if no one else objects. We must have entered 500-1000 of these across quite a few magazines, not just Amazing. I think they work better and are more convenient to use than the grid to scan through sequential issues.--Rkihara 17:03, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
I entered a few hundred of them myself, for Perry Rhodan, but I've lost my fondness for them. I'll search through Community Portal archives and see if I can find a discussion, and if not, I'll start one. Chavey 21:44, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

The Expert Dreamers

I added pub month with explanatory pub note to your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39355. Markwood 23:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Willy Ley's 'They Were Dead'

Hi Ron. In your two verified titles here and here, the title "They Were Dead" by Willy Ley are showing up as duplicates for Ley. Are they the same? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 01:38, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

The second is a short followup to the first essay having the exact same title. I'll disambiguate the second. Maybe by adding (followup to essay having same title, Ast. 06/1944)?--Rkihara 01:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Christine Renard

You approved a number of Christine Renard variants by NrjPure faster than I could put them on hold. The parents and variants exactly match (title, author, and language). That should not be the case for variants (except in limited cases). I've asked NrjPure for clarification. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:24, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, asleep at the wheel.--Rkihara 22:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1937

I have listed the facsimile reprint of the pulp Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1937 that you created. However, when I listed the facsimile I also added some letters from the letter section. If you want you can import them into your listing. Thanks for doing all the hard work first. MLB 21:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, that saves me a bit of time. I'm in the process of entering letters into pubs that I didn't enter the first time around, since now I can better determine who should entered and who not.--Rkihara 22:13, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, September 1986

Hi Ron. The interior art titles on pp 86 and 108 for "Haiku for an Asteroid Scout" on your verified Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, September 1986 are showing up as dupes on Jankus bibliography page. Shouldn't they be disambiguated? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:59, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Done.--Rkihara 16:55, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Stories, August 1936

Hello, there's may be something fishy about the letters in this issue (a duplicate update?). Hauck 12:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Not sure what happened. I approve my submissions as I edit, but sometimes they reappear in the queue, where I may have approved them.--Rkihara 16:41, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Dec

The following are possible typos in your verified pubs:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Heck of a list! You must have a proofreader's eye! Corrected all typos and misspellings. Entries for FSF 06/73, Amazing 09/86, and 09/50, Startling Stories, 05/50, entered per pub.--Rkihara 18:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Bibliographic notes left for FSF 06/73, Amazing 09/86, and 09/50, Startling Stories, 05/50, noting spelling as found in pub.--Rkihara 19:57, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Capitalization

I have corrected the capitalization of words such as "an", "from", "with", "the" in titles of some of Ian Watson's works. This affects your verified publication org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?59082 Interzone, #75 September 1993]. In future, do you want to be notified of such capitalization regularizations? --Vasha 08:30, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

You've notified the wrong person. I have never verified an issue of Interzone. The issue in question was verified by Hauck. I don't need to be notified if your're making small corrections; typos, capitalization, and missing data.--Rkihara 17:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Norman L. Dean

Heads up that there's still a pending submission from you for Norman L. Dean though it appears that submission will not change any data fields. --Marc Kupper|talk 20:55, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been getting multiple submissions since I started editing across multiple browser windows. Not sure what's going on.--Rkihara 22:28, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Brad Shaw

The cartoon on page 6 of Amazing Stories, April 1943 is credited to Brad Shaw. Typically, it's shown as Bradshaw (including in Fantastic Adventures, April 1943 which you have also verified if you wish to compare). Would you mind double checking the space? Thanks, -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:07, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, it's Bradshaw. Bradshaw was signed in cursive, and there was a small break in the script between Brad and shaw, but shaw was in lower case. Fixed.--Rkihara 19:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Letter (Analog, May 1974)

Hello, There's perhaps something fishy with this letter, you may have mistyped the author or mislinked it (or it may be another Michael Lindsay). Can you have a look? Thanks. Hauck 08:39, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Contento shows this letter is by A. D. Harvey writing as Michael Lindsay.--Rkihara 17:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
My worries are more situated here where you can see that only one item is varianted to Harvey. As there is no pseudonymistic link between Lindsay and Harvey the letter shows on one of our cleanup report but more worringly it may be improbable the Harvey wrote two Horror stories in 2015. Either all texts by Lindsay are by Heard, in this case you should create the pseudonymistic link and variant the two short stories, or there are two different Lindsays and in this case you should disambiguate the two "Michael Lindsay" involved and still set up the pseudonymistic link to the Harvey pseudonym. Thanks. Hauck 17:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Harvey is still alive and he's still young enough to have written the two horror stories, although I'm not sure that he's the author. I'll make the pseudonymous connection and variant the two stories. Disambiguating them may cause more confusion later.--Rkihara 18:10, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Scourge of the Blood Cult

Hi, You approved my submission on this publication: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260995. But I think I've made a mistake, and I wanted to know how to fix it. The Epic publication lists the author only as George Smith, so I recorded the author's name this way. But it turns out that is an existing artist name. The author link on the publication record now takes me to this artist's Summary Bibliography, rather than to that of George H. Smith.

In addition, George H. Smith's Summary Bibliography, while it lists *Scourge of the Blood Cult*, does not have "only as by George Smith" which I believe it should.

How do I remove the connection to the artist George Smith and instead record this as a pseudonym of George H. Smith? I can't find a sidebar link that looks like it will do what I want. Thanks, Ldb001 13:48, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Edit: I think I figured out the process, no action required. Thanks, Ldb001 18:07, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, May 2001

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, May 2001

  • added piped paged numbers to the things on page 28 to get them to sort in the correct order.
  • Add the word just to for the interior artwork Cartoon: "Wow! What an awful dream I had!" to Cartoon: "Wow! What an awful dream I just had!"
  • Added a book review on page 30. It's a non-genre graphic novel but the author has a number of works. I did not add the publication though if you think that's needed it's DC Comics, 2000, $24.95. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1563896923/ This one still needs work as the review is not showing on George Pratt's bibliography but I see he has an interior-art titled Batman: Harvest Breed (2001) that's likely related to his work done in 2000.
  • Added another book review from page 30. It's a non-genre graphic novel but messier as the review was mainly about the artwork and does not mention the author until the top of the right hand column on page 31. As we have the publication reviewed, The House on the Borderland, in ISFDB I added the review plus a pub-note. The review did not link up as expected and so needs work. I added a link to the pub in the pub-notes.

Changes that come to mind but not done:

  • While it's not captioned the cartoon on page 32 could be called "Student Driver" as that phrase is prominent within the drawing. For example, the cartoon on page 114 is not captioned but is named on the text within the cartoon.
  • The page 121 cartoon is also not captioned but within it there's "The Wait'N'Wait'N'Wait Restaurant"
  • There's a note at the bottom of page 39 titled April Fools? Apparently a computer error resulted in some copies of the April issue being printed without periods and miscellaneous quotation marks. You can return the damaged issue for replacement.

--Marc Kupper|talk 07:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

For the unlniked review my understanding was that we change REVIEWs of non eligible titles into ESSAYs, IMHO Pratt is not "above the threshold" (see my take on this nebulous concept) so the review must go and be changed into an essay. Hauck 07:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Annie posted a note on my talk page. I'm moving her comment here to keep the thread together:
Shouldn't the review for the non-genre graphic novel in the The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, May 2001 issue be converted to an essay so it is not dangling unconnected. I do not think that adding the graphic novel is really what we want to do... And I think that the other review on page 30 (for the Graphic novel based on a book we do have) should also be an essay. The notes in the publication record are great, it is the content that looks weird. What do you think? Annie 16:47, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
--- end included note. --Marc Kupper|talk 17:12, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
Thank you Hauck / Annie. I've converted the unlinked page 30 review to an essay and updated the pub-notes. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:25, 22 June 2017 (EDT)

J. R. Pierce

Hi, I made a change in Letter (Analog, November 1961) by J. R. Pierce. It is not done by John J. Pierce but by his father, John R. Pierce.--Dirk P Broer 04:16, 10 November 2017 (EST)

You're correct. I checked the issue and it was signed by J. R. Pierce, my mistake. Removed pseudonym.--18:17, 10 November 2017 (EST)

"Amazing (Science Fiction) Stories, February 1960" (and 1976-79)

You are the PV for this issue of Amazing Science Fiction Stories, which was the title that "Amazing Stories" went by from May, 1958 to Sept., 1960. However, this issue is listed as if the title were still "Amazing Stories", and it is the only issue during this run that is listed with that more generic title. It seems that it would be appropriate to change this issue to the "official" title. Chavey 09:17, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Most of the issues from 1976, 1977, 1978, and Feb. 1979 are also incorrectly listed as Amazing Stories when both their covers and Contento-Miller insists that they were Amazing Science Fiction. Chavey 10:33, 15 November 2017 (EST)

(I gave up after 1979, because we don't seem to agree with Miller-Contento on any of the titles. Chavey 10:41, 15 November 2017 (EST)

"Amazing (Science Fiction) Stories". Jan. 1970 to July 1970

These issues, on the other hand, are listed by us under the title "Amazing Science Fiction", even though Miller-Contento and their covers list them as still being "Amazing Stories". (They say that the title was not changed to "American Science Fiction Stories" until the Sept. 1970 issue.) Unless their title pages list them under the older title, it seems that these titles should be corrected. And if the title page does list them under that older title, then it seems that a note should be added regarding the discrepancy in regards to the cover title. This applies to January, March, May, and July Chavey 10:20, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Please feel free to make any corrections you feel are necessary.--12:10, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Robert D. Swisher

Hi,

You have a submission still open that had been on the board for 3+ days. I suspect you just forgot about it so can you please click on the link and accept/reject it? Thanks! Annie 13:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Thanks, Done.--Rkihara 13:28, 20 November 2017 (EST)

"Facts of the Future", Amazing Stories 1950-51

You have several, if not all, of the Amazing Stories issues that feature the recurring "Facts of the Future". Many of these are listed as being essays. But as far as I can tell, Contento lists all of these as "vignettes", i.e. short short (fiction) stories. Can you check on what their proper status should be? If you disagree with Contento with respect to fact vs. fiction, it would probably be helpful to add notes about that. Thanks, Chavey 01:34, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Thanks! They should be short (short) story. I'll change them over after I've finished my current project.--12:36, 22 November 2017 (EST)
I'm starting to clean up "Facts/Fables of the Future." The listings were under "essay" to identify them as a magazine department, the vignettes were not listed in most cases, since I didn't consider them important enough to list. If the vignettes were previous entered by someone else, I left the entries alone, unless they were in error. I've changed my mind about their importance and will enter the vignettes as "short-short" stories within their respective departments.--Rkihara 12:57, 28 November 2017 (EST)

Astounding/Analog Science Fact & Fiction, February 1960

In this issue I have changed the review of the nongenre nonfiction On the Track of Unknown Animals to ESSAY. --Vasha 10:12, 8 December 2017 (EST)

Article in Analog, January 1974

Would you be able to scan this article and send it to me? I'm doing some research that involves it. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:20, 11 January 2018 (EST)

I have a spare copy. If you pay the postage, ~$2.50, I'll send it to you.--Rkihara 12:42, 11 January 2018 (EST)
Sure, I can do that. Send me an email about it and we'll get it done. :) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:24, 11 January 2018 (EST)
I don't have your email. You can email me at "deleted". This is an open forum, so I will delete my address once you acknowledge.--Rkihara 13:33, 11 January 2018 (EST)
That's what the "Email this user" links are for in the toolbox on the left. I've sent an email. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:00, 11 January 2018 (EST)
Thanks for your help with this and the Time article. I'll be mentioning you in the acknowledgements if this gets published. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:04, 11 January 2018 (EST)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, June 2003

I'm holding an edit, that impacts your verified pub. Would you please double check it? -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:34, 13 January 2018 (EST)

I've gone ahead and accepted it based on the link (provided in the moderator notes) to the author's website which does describe it as a story. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:39, 13 January 2018 (EST)

Asimov's, February 1989

The record for the February 1989 issue which you verified lists a story by Lisa Mason titled "The Onionmancer." However, her reprint collection and most secondary sources call it "The Oniomancer." Could you look again at the magazine issue, and if there really is an N in there, make a note about that? Thanks! --Vasha 21:49, 19 January 2018 (EST)

Thanks, it's The Oniomancer, title corrected.--Rkihara 12:44, 20 January 2018 (EST)
I almost want to read a story titled "The Onionmancer" now. Sounds tasty. (^o^) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:14, 22 January 2018 (EST)
Same here, it brings up all sorts of strange images.--Rkihara 12:02, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Titan's Daughter (Complete Novel)

Hello, Ron! From the German edition it seems that this title is only a novella. It's in here. Do you have the time to take a check on it? Christian Stonecreek 12:33, 24 February 2018 (EST)

Never mind! The other Ron (Rtrace) did an estimate, and it turned out as a NOVEl. Christian Stonecreek 00:08, 25 February 2018 (EST)

February 1943 Astounding and Your Notifications Page

I followed the link at the top of your page to notify you of changes to Astounding Science-Fiction, February 1943 where I left the following note:

I'm changing the credit for the story on page 70 of Astounding Science-Fiction, February 1943 from "Henry A. Norton" to "Henry Norton". I'll also replace the hyphen for the Will Stewart serial with am em-dash. Both of these are to match what appears on the title pages. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 10:49, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

It appears that that link creates a new page in the main wiki space with the title "Editing I have created a separate archive to the right of the contents listing for changes to verified pubs to lower the clutter. Please log change notifications there.". I'm sure that isn't what you intended and I actually didn't notice it myself until Ahasuerus brought the new page to my attention. In any case, you'll probably want to adjust the link in your header note. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:37, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

Thanks, I think I've fixed it. Mostly everyone posts here anyway and since my activity level is low these days,clutter is not a problem anymore.--Rkihara 12:27, 19 March 2018 (EDT)

A Susan Wood essay

Hi Ron, there is a Susan Wood essay that appeared in her 'Propellor Beanie' series in Algol (a report of her trip to Aussiecon in 1975), which I am 99% certain is the same as the essay that appeared in your verified Amazing Stories, June 1976, under the 'Clubhouse' essay series (p. 124). It begins "Why Are You Here?" and ends "To have dinner with my friends." Can you please check? If so, not sure how we would resolve the issue of the essay appearing under two different essay series. Thanks. PeteYoung 05:10, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

It matches up. There are a few extra sentences at the end plugging the next Australian Worldcon.--Rkihara 03:15, 7 May 2018 (EDT)

The Scientific Adventures of Baron Münchausen

We currently have Hugo Gernsback's The Scientific Adventures of Baron Münchausen as a novel with the original magazine appearances as serials. I'm thinking that this is probably not the best way of reflecting these titles. I think the original appearances should be as short stories in a series. Most of the secondary sources reflect it this way notably Miller/Conento and FictionMags which list them as separate stories for both their original appearances in Electrical Experimenter and their reprints in Amazing. Clute/Nicholls and Tuck describe them as a series of adventures rather than a novel. Bleiler's Early Years calls them stories, whereas his Gernsback years refers to them as "episodes". The only place that I've found that refers to it as a serial novel is the Locus1 listing, for the 2006 publication which I presume does not split the stories out. Locus also mentions that the novel is edited and abridged, which one could argue makes it more of a fix-up than a novel. What I'd like to do is convert the serials in both EE and Amazing to stories under their original titles. I'll place them in a sub-series along with the 2006 novel and remove the variant relationship. I'll also double check with the verifier of the novel, in case that may more properly be a collection, but given the Locus description, I don't think so. Ordinarily, I'd wait for your response for this sort of change, but your notice on the moderator board mentions that you're here sporadically. I'm going to go ahead and start converting these. I can always change them back if we decide that's how they should be reflected. Thanks and let me know what you think when you next check in here. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:45, 13 May 2018 (EDT)

I'd repost this on the the Community Portal or Rules and Standards, and get a consensus-as this affects hundreds of titles. I'm not very active right now, but I try to check my watchlist daily.--Rkihara 11:13, 14 May 2018 (EDT)
I could do that, but I don't think it affects that many titles. There are the original 13 stories/serials that appeared in EE, none of which are verified, and the 6 reprints in Amazing which have only been verified by you or you and me. There is one reprint of the 12th story under a different title (here), which is not currently linked and also which includes an incorrectly merged title (this pub) which probably should be the whole novel/collection. That leaves the only the novel for which I've reached out to the sole verifier. As this primarily is a change to the original magazine appearances, I thought this a matter for those verifiers and thus I'm chiefly interested in your views on how these titles should be reflected. If you insist, though, I will happily put the question to the community portal. I don't really think there is a standards issue here, this is more of a specific case to these stories/serials. I've completed most of the edits, but I'll hold off on the rest of them until we reach a consensus. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:38, 14 May 2018 (EDT)
After re-reading your posts, I understand what you're doing now. Sure go ahead.--Rkihara 12:39, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

If —

I’ve been putting some order to some old pulp listings. For example I put some uniformity to the If— series, including changing some of your listed short stories into essays. However, I have some questions, are the two entries Another Ice Age Grips the Earth! and A Second Deluge Flooded Earth! part of Jack Binder’s If — illustrated feature? If so, I’ll also add these two listing to the series, and give him an illustration credit. MLB 21:34, 21 May 2018 (EDT)

Yes, they're both part of the "If–" series. I think they're more like short-short stories told in the third person than essays.--Rkihara 21:39, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
I agree, but when I tried that with another author, and the essays/short stories involving the back covers of Amazing Stories/Fantastic Adventures I was roundly criticized for doing it. I am just a lowly editor, so I just do as I'm told. I'm now standardizing the artwork as it all seems to entered in a half-dozen ways. MLB 15:48, 28 May 2018 (EDT)

Three stories by Mildred Clingerman

Is there a chance you could scan these three short stories and send them to me? I have a couple anthologies in which I want to consider including them, but these are the only stories of hers that aren't included in The Clingerman Files.

The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, June 1975: 109 • Annabelle, I Love You • short story by Mildred Clingerman
The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, March 1975: 80 • The Time Before • short story by Mildred Clingerman
The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, October 1962: 39 • Measure My Love • short story by Mildred Clingerman

I appreciate any help. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:16, 23 May 2018 (EDT)

I have a spare copy of the 1962 magazine, which I can send you for postage. Let me think about the 1975 issues, since scanning them might break their backs. Sometimes I read them by clamping stiff strips over the spine with bulldog clips. I may be able to scan those using the same technique without damaging them.--Rkihara 11:47, 24 May 2018 (EDT)
That works. Send me the info via email. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:41, 24 May 2018 (EDT)

Fantastic, July 1957 cover

Hello,

I approved an update of the cover artist for this one based on your notes and made a variant (so record as printed in the record, variant to the real author). Feel free to reverse and/or change that if you prefer it any other way. Annie 15:48, 29 June 2018 (EDT)

Planned Project Scope Expansion

(I am leaving this note on the Talk pages of some of the more active editors to make sure that we are not missing anything. If you have been following this Rules and Standards discussion and agree with the proposal, please ignore this note.)

As per this discussion, ISFDB:Policy#Rules_of_Acquisition is about to be expanded to include:

  • Speculative fiction webzines, which are defined as online periodicals with distinct issues
  • Special speculative fiction issues of non-genre webzines
  • One time speculative fiction anthologies published on the Web

If you believe that this scope expansion may cause unforeseen and/or undesirable consequences, please share your thoughts on the Rules and Standards page. TIA! Ahasuerus 11:25, 4 July 2018 (EDT)

Magazine of FSF, January 1955

Hi. You are one of three who verified the magazine issue, P61120, and the one who is an active moderator, so I write to you altho you are also latest of three, only this winter.

What troubles me is the second Review in the contents list as page 94,

  • 94 •   Review: The Children's Hour by Marjorie Barrows • review by The Editor

For the Marjorie Barrows-edited Science Fiction and Reader's Guide (1954) T36403 we state

  • Review by The Editor (1955) in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, January 1955

Perhaps "The Children's Hour" is a heading/title of the review as published, but Science Fiction and Reader's Guide is its subject, and the latter is what we should enter, what the database Publication view should report for FSF 1955-01. Right?

(Incidentally discovered in All Titles search for "the children's hour".)

Thank you for stints as moderator. --Pwendt|talk 20:29, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

The Children's Hour may be the publication series of Science Fiction and Reader's Guide (1954), or handled as Publication Series in the database. And made clear by adding Favorite Fairy Tales (1953) to the database. See Marjorie Barrows at Goodreads and, as publication not series, The Children's Hour at WorldCat. --Pwendt|talk 20:55, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
In the F&SF review it's identified as volume 16, of The Children's Hour. Looking online, it is a unified set like an encyclopedia, each volume is titled The Childrens Hour on the spine, vol. no. above, and title below. It probably should be entered as "The Children's Hour, Vol. 16: Science Fiction and Reader's Guide." By the way, the date of verification is irrelevant, verification means that you have a physical copy, have checked the entry against it and are willing to respond to queries. If it bothers you, SWfritter and I entered most of the detailed data for the major mags over a decade ago, taking either the primary or transient verification, since those were the only choices then. I've recently flipped most of my transient verifications to permanent, which re-dated them.--Rkihara 01:03, 7 August 2018 (EDT)

Amazing Stories, March 1990

I’ve been doing some clean-up of the Amazing Stories listings and I’m curious, in the March 1990 issue is The Literary Career of W. T. Quick: Current Directions ... and Past Achievements a short story or an essay? I suspect it is an essay, but won’t change it unless you say so.

I know, I know, will nobody rid you of these pesky lowly editors with no life. MLB 18:03, 7 August 2018 (EDT)
Thank you! You're right, it's an autobiographical essay by W. T. Quick. Entry corrected.--Rkihara 19:05, 7 August 2018 (EDT)

Updating SERIAL Help

I am leaving this message on the Talk pages of active editors who (AFAIK) are currently active in the magazine/fanzine area. Based on recent feedback from a new editor, I have attempted to streamline our Help templates which govern the use of the SERIAL title type. I have posted a proposal which shuffles the relevant snippets between 3 different Help templates and clarifies a few things. When you get a chance, could you please review the proposed language to make sure that it's accurate and comprehensive? TIA! Ahasuerus 15:23, 24 August 2018 (EDT)

Savage Pellucidar Artwork in Amazing Stories

You verified Amazing Stories, November 1963. This magazine has the ERB story "Savage Pellucidar", illustrated by Larry Ivie. I'm entering a copy of the collection Savage Pellucidar that contains three pieces of INTERIORART attributed to Larry Ivie, all dated 1963. However, you show only two pieces of his artwork in the magazine. The first one is clearly on the title page of the story, so was easy to tie to the collection illustration. But I would like to tie the other two illustrations to the originals if possible. Did you miss an illustration in the magazine? Which of the illustrations in the collection matches the illustration(s) in the magazine? Bob 10:06, 21 September 2018 (EDT)

The third illustration for Savage Pellucidar is on the back cover of the magazine. It shows a man in a tree watching two cat-like animals fighting. Amazing Stories did that a lot in the sixties. I noticed a possible typo in your description on p. 291 of the collection, "... The snake-like "jays" gaped wide."--Rkihara 13:14, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
Thanks, much appreciated! Bob 17:48, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
I forgot to describe the second illustration, it shows a creature like a Pleisiosaur rising out of the water, threatening a woman in a boat.--Rkihara 13:14, 22 September 2018 (EDT)

Your experience--magazine dates?

Hi, do you have anything to add to this R&S discussion, prompted by my noticing that the current data entry rules don't say what date to assign a magazine if it has no cover date? What have you been doing? --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 22:27, 30 September 2018 (EDT)

Gavagan's Bar Stories in F&SF

Could I get you to check the Winter-Spring 1950 issue of Fantasy and Science Fiction. We have a single story titled "Gavagan's Bar" on page 95. Miller/Contento lists two stories with "Elephas Frumenti" starting on page 95 and "The Gift of God" on page 100. Is this perhaps a grouping of stories that we've reflected rather than two individual ones? I'm also leaving this note on the other active verifiers page. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:32, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Binder's "Mystery World" in Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1941

Hi. I've got a submission on hold that is working with a title "Mystery World" by Eando Binder. There is an appearance of that title in your verified Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1941. The title record for that is also contained in The First Space Patrol Megapack, but the credits in that cite its first appearance as the February, 1949 Captain Marvel Adventures #90. A scan in Google Books shows it begins:

As his small one-man rocketship thrummed through space, Lieutenant Jon Jarl of the Space Police...

It is pretty short, going from p. 134 to p. 139. In your magazine, the next story starts 10 pages later, so it's hard to judge relative lengths. Could you, and would you, check the magazine and see what you think? Thanks. --MartyD 13:13, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

It's a completely different story. The version in Thrilling Wonder Stories starts
"The Orion Club on Asteroid 444 was just letting out after one of its floor shows."
The main character is also named "Warren." --Rkihara 15:11, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Great, thanks. I will split them up. --MartyD 16:58, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Who Goes There?

I'm going to make a number of changes to your verified copy of the August 1938 issue of Astounding. First off, I'm going to add a link to a scan of the issue from the Internet Archive. I'm also going to change the title of Who Goes There? to include the quotation marks as it appears on the storie's title page (also in the table of contents). Lastly, the story note in the recent reprint of the novella in the Fall 2018 issue of Black Infinity identifies the artist as H. W. Wesso, so I'll add him as the artist for those illustrations and note the source. Please let me know if you have any problems with these changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:10, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

No problem.--Rkihara 23:51, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

Thanks!

Ron, thanks for taking the trouble to nominate me for moderator. I'll try to make it look like you have good sense. Bob 15:07, 27 April 2019 (EDT)

You're welcome. It was long overdue.--Rkihara 21:36, 27 April 2019 (EDT)
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